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  • We look at the best Star Wars Legends and Canon Generals on today's episode of Star Wars Factions Compared.
    Star Wars is filled with brilliant military leaders, today we look at General Grievous of the CIS, General Veers of the Galactic Empire, General Hux of the First Order, and General Madine of the Rebel Alliance and New Republic
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  • @jacekatzung7499
    @jacekatzung7499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4196

    Hux would lose a by a large margin to a super tactical droid

    • @hafor2846
      @hafor2846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +767

      Hux would loose to C3PO commanding an army of Jar Jar clones.

    • @joepolitics1218
      @joepolitics1218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +408

      Hux would lose to Jar Jar commanding an army of Mynoks

    • @George-Hawthorne
      @George-Hawthorne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +223

      Hux would lose to the empire's most incompetent officers

    • @benwarman5202
      @benwarman5202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +269

      CM - 22 - 5133 hux would lose to the low ground

    • @JohnDoe-zd4rl
      @JohnDoe-zd4rl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      CM - 22 - 5133 hux would lose to a Mynock commanding the low ground

  • @ESFNinja
    @ESFNinja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1924

    "General Kenobi! You are a bold one!"

    • @voughklry8362
      @voughklry8362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@BATTB_
      General kenobi

    • @Gameguy-gk8lx
      @Gameguy-gk8lx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The folafal Waffle You are a bold one.

    • @HalfDemonInuyasha
      @HalfDemonInuyasha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      "You must realize YOU, ARE. DOOMED!"

    • @smc0718
      @smc0718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "I've got a BAD FEELING about this!"

    • @insertmemorableusernameher6795
      @insertmemorableusernameher6795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Gameguy-gk8lx
      Back away. I will deal with this jedi slime myself

  • @matthew____879
    @matthew____879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1937

    A super tactical droid would be a better general than Hux, even Jar Jar was a more successful general than Hux

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      It is so sad that that statement is true.

    • @legostarwarsfan1662
      @legostarwarsfan1662 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      True. Hux always loses, but in the clone wars, jar jar being completely useless resulted in victory for the republic at least twice. Hux is a politician trying to be a general.

    • @jordanmanley9172
      @jordanmanley9172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Well, he was the true sith lord, after all...

    • @kalbonation2308
      @kalbonation2308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hux is just a kid trying to be naziwannabe

    • @bouncin2207
      @bouncin2207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Okay but super tactical droids were no joke, those guys knew their shit.

  • @stephenlutz6936
    @stephenlutz6936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3080

    Is Hux just on here as a joke or are we being serious.

    • @fizzlewick
      @fizzlewick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +368

      Just as in the movies, he's just a joke

    • @falloutmcgee6948
      @falloutmcgee6948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      Stephen Lutz I am not sure neither, I want to believe that the first order are much more competent than the empire, in there troops, vehicles and tactics. After the events and battles of the rebellion vs empire, they would be seeing what the empire did wrong and improving; which makes sense. However it really grinds my gears of not knowing if the first order and general Hux really are incompetent or is the cause of bad writing. I don’t know, just hope it gets better.

    • @stephenlutz6936
      @stephenlutz6936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      @gLeE TrOopeR 59 The only person who seemed competent for the First Order was the captain of the dreadnaught. He seemed like a seasoned veteran that actually knew what he was doing, but we all know what happened with him sadly. I would rather take him over Hux in a heartbeat.

    • @potatomancer4316
      @potatomancer4316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      It’s definitely bad writing. The “good” guys always have to win apparently. The first order is superior in every way but of course they make it seem like their tactics are constructed by chimps. That’s why episode 3 is my favorite, it’s the only one where the “good” guy doesn’t win.

    • @douwetendam5097
      @douwetendam5097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I dont see why he would be in this list either, while the republic had some great generals to, general hux doesnt really seem to know what he is doing and is way to influensed by his emotions, wich is some thing a great leader should be able to put aside and stay professional.

  • @InevitableVitare
    @InevitableVitare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1360

    Grievous, in Legends at least, was a monster. In fact, as military leadership goes I'd put him second only to Thrawn in the Star Wars universe. There's a reason why his death was necessary to end the Clone Wars. If Palpatine had tried to end the CIS with him still there it simply wouldn't have worked.

    • @Bryan-dr5qy
      @Bryan-dr5qy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      Grievous in Canon is no joke too, he's just more opportunistic and in line with the movies. He is at his best when he can outlast, outnumber, and emotionally manipulate his opponents. Where subtlety was lost he made up for with ruthlessness, though the lack of subtlety did mean that he could be thwarted by opponents who knew how to restrain themselves in the right ways. He managed to beat Obi-Wan and destroy his ship, Depa Bilaba and her troops, he even managed to take over Dathomir and on another occasion beat Maul's forces.

    • @axelstrongbow4719
      @axelstrongbow4719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Well, mabye at your list you can add Jedi knight revan, no one can beat him

    • @kingsadvisor18
      @kingsadvisor18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Now I wanna see a conversation between Thrawn and Grievous

    • @Howtodraw-js2sb
      @Howtodraw-js2sb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I'd actually rank Grievous above Thrawn for military, the legends descriptions of him indicate he's the best tactical genius like ever. And Thrawn was glorified for being ruthless when general Grievous was far more ruthless than Thrawn ever was, he launched a (short lived but) successful raid in to the heart of the republic and captured the Chancellor, that's like Russia marching into DC and taking Donald Trump only to be defeated by an army of Navy seals half way to England. In fact he lead the successful ground assault to capture the Chancellor. He could analyze all advantages and disadvantages with no mercy, making him a lot better than Thrawn, I'd love to see a grievous stand alone film

    • @kingsadvisor18
      @kingsadvisor18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Howtodraw-js2sb honestly, yeah. I think after the current trend of Star Wars fades away into obscurity and other people get a shot in make SW content then a whole Clone Wars trilogy or Republic Commando trilogy is justified. Grievious being the main antagonist with Duku and Palpatine in the shadows

  • @sirripper4697
    @sirripper4697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1592

    Who wins?
    A Kaleesh Warlord, capable of killing hundreds of highly trained force sensitive warriors.
    vs.
    Ewan McGregor with a blaster.

    • @aojpictures
      @aojpictures 5 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      *Jesus with a blaster

    • @robertwadsworth3411
      @robertwadsworth3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I'm putting my money on the Kaleesh Warlord.

    • @yousephkarouni9540
      @yousephkarouni9540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@robertwadsworth3411 One uncivilized boi*

    • @robertwadsworth3411
      @robertwadsworth3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@yousephkarouni9540 no I just like the Kaleesh more than the other guy

    • @rcraw6447
      @rcraw6447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      One uncivilized boi vs Jesus with a light pew pew

  • @aperson8473
    @aperson8473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Hux: *Has character potential*
    The Last Jedi: *I'm about to end this man's whole career*

    • @handleonafridge6828
      @handleonafridge6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I wanted space hitler damnit

    • @okays434
      @okays434 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      blew up 4 planet at once, he could have been a great villian smh

    • @Prophetofthe8thLegion
      @Prophetofthe8thLegion ปีที่แล้ว

      @@handleonafridge6828 watching that speech in German was hilarious

  • @HalfDemonInuyasha
    @HalfDemonInuyasha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    I still love watching Grievous and the Droids owning the Nightsisters on Dathomir in The Clone Wars. Such a dark but epic battle with him just pretty much walking through everyone in his way.

    • @reagangaitens7154
      @reagangaitens7154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Aka the only time he was cool in that show, loved that episode!

    • @thezantgeneral677
      @thezantgeneral677 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      That’s nothing compared to what he does in the miniseries!

    • @TempestGhost
      @TempestGhost 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That proves he can get his hands dirty while not hiding in a giant Battle machine.

    • @HalfDemonInuyasha
      @HalfDemonInuyasha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @The Zant General
      Yeah, I also loved watching him own all those Jedi in the first cartoon.

    • @zaya5360
      @zaya5360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was badass untill he needed his droids to save his ass when he was about to be killed by Ventress

  • @samdale3937
    @samdale3937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +926

    General veers was such a boss in empire at war and in episode 5.

  • @forrestpenrod2294
    @forrestpenrod2294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1716

    Grievous. I don’t care how terribly TCW portrays him. RotS and other canon implies the separatists were winning the war.

    • @anthonyrodriguez8788
      @anthonyrodriguez8788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Has Grievous ever been portrayed as brillant?
      We always hear about how smart he is but we have only ever seen how smart he is once when he captured Eeth Koth and used him as bait.
      But other than that in both Continuities he has always been a blunt tool.

    • @forrestpenrod2294
      @forrestpenrod2294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +314

      Anthony Rodriguez to be fair though no one in the Clone Wars is a good tactician or strategist. The Jedi characters usually only succeed because they have the force.
      Arguably if the Seperatists were poised to win, which is stated by the Tactical Droid in Rebs, it would invariably be accredited to Grievous as the overall commander of the Droid Armies.

    • @anthonyrodriguez8788
      @anthonyrodriguez8788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      @@forrestpenrod2294
      On that we both agree. If the C.I.S were left to their own devices they would have steamrolled the republic.

    • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
      @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      I disagree. Not with Grievous's abilities as a general ( I think he was extremely effective and intelligent) but your statement about the Separatists winning the war. The kidnapping of Chancellor Palpatine was a desperate move. It indicates that the Separatists felt is the only way to win, making it extremely likely they going to lose the war if things continued normally.
      Also, there was frequent discussion by the Jedi about Palpatine giving up emergency powers after the end of the war. They would not have bothered talking about this unless they both (a) felt the war would end soon and (b) the Republic and position of Chancellor would still exist. In other words, the Jedi though the Republic would soon win.

    • @Chiakuu
      @Chiakuu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Forrest Penrod There were amazing tacticians during the clone wars era - they just either got no screen time or made it out of legends into the new canon. Unfortunate.

  • @lordgong4980
    @lordgong4980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Overlooked General Grievous's life before the Clone Wars. He did much more that needed looking at

    • @seamoose9948
      @seamoose9948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lord Gong they're looking at them as generals though

    • @staringgasmask
      @staringgasmask ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seamoose9948 he was a general of his people

  • @Speleomimus
    @Speleomimus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    PLEASE wax poetic about Bel-Iblis for ten minutes, he's deeply underappreciated for what he was in the EU

    • @crustypaladin
      @crustypaladin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES

    • @captainez4387
      @captainez4387 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please do, he was one of my favorite characters in the Thrawn trilogy

    • @user-Jay178
      @user-Jay178 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree

    • @sirkingalot4187
      @sirkingalot4187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love that so much!!!

    • @maximumeffort7096
      @maximumeffort7096 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was easy to kill in Empire at War.

  • @garyterry5876
    @garyterry5876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +818

    I think you were unfair to General Grievous. You left out his former life as a Kalish warlord where he was nothing short of masterful in his use of tactics and strategy.
    It could be argued that they're two separate beings, but I'd argue that it's more akin to someone growing older and/or changing command styles as well as what he had at his disposal. The base commander is still there -- his brain is still largely the same, but he became more ruthless (and, admittedly, reckless) and better at calculation and personal command, i.e. leading from the front (which is saying something, considering his already fantastic personal combat skills as his fully-organic self).
    General Grievous should've gotten first on this ranking. He was much better a warrior than any of the other generals and he was the only general to master or become proficient at every single form of warfare, even if he wasn't quite as good in the specifics as General Veers or General Madine.

    • @robertwadsworth3411
      @robertwadsworth3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      All true and I love Grievous personally but you do have to take into account that he did lose major objectives like the battle for Bothawui. Now I'm not saying this to discredit him it's just that he did lose so while if it was just general Veers in command of the entire imperial military vs. Grievous with the entire droid army than yes I'd give it to Grievous but this is for land based generals so Veers with that being his specialty combined with earning his position through sheer skill does make him better as a purely land based general sorry.

    • @o00nemesis00o
      @o00nemesis00o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He can't win cos he dies on screen

    • @coryseavers2932
      @coryseavers2932 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Either way u cant argue that he isnt a really good general he did come somewhat close to taking over kamino even if it was a loss

    • @TempestGhost
      @TempestGhost 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed. At least he has a backstory.

    • @bummknallpeng4294
      @bummknallpeng4294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I think the fact that Grievous got as far as he did with an army as crappy as that of the Seperatists is proof enough for his abilities. I'd even argue that the influence of Darth Sidious is what actually resulted in his defeat, but obviously that's just my personal opinion.

  • @TheRealDoggoCEO
    @TheRealDoggoCEO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +995

    *Definitely not someone from the First Order or the Resistance.*

    • @chris9206
      @chris9206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Sadly they turned the First Order into a joke.

    • @AdamantLightLP
      @AdamantLightLP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      @@chris9206 Sadly the entire new trilogy is so far a joke.

    • @chris9206
      @chris9206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Adamant This is true.

    • @robertwadsworth3411
      @robertwadsworth3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And yet I've somehow found myself in a debate if Hux is better than Grievous and while I'm getting nicked picked over every victory and failure Grievous made I've yet to see a time where Hux actually won not counting firing Starkiller as that wasn't a fight.

    • @deadshot-qz5rk
      @deadshot-qz5rk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey leia is a good general you salty boy

  • @OceanHedgehog
    @OceanHedgehog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I think you're giving Grievous too little credit (and again giving the Rebels too much). Before becoming a cyborg, Grievous led a war against the Hux so efficiently that the Jedi had to intervene out of concern that it could turn into a genocide. He's as skilled a tactician as Jango Fett was a warrior - hence being hand-picked by Dooku.

    • @Starfleet8555
      @Starfleet8555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't believe he would be as good as Veers though.

    • @taytoni1372
      @taytoni1372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Starfleet8555 he never said he was as good as Veers, he just said the Republic got to much credit

    • @henriksandstrom2161
      @henriksandstrom2161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah grievous got a fair placement 😊

  • @wildwest8069
    @wildwest8069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    General Grievous had many years of experience as a Kaleesh warrior and leader of his kind, and I feel he would have been probably #1 if it was not for Palpatine pulling his strings, and at times sabotaging attempts to improve the general droid quality. Grievous was meant only to be a spectral monster to allow Palpatine to take more and more power, a dog muzzled. I think it is fortunate that he remained so, otherwise The Republic would be in a lot of trouble.

  • @tiefighter8401
    @tiefighter8401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +688

    The ultimate battle of the three most badass generals of the movies!
    Oh and a General Hugs

  • @arcanum3882
    @arcanum3882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    When your here early enough for the poll to say Grievous is 100% the best. The correct results, of course.

    • @Atriox2004
      @Atriox2004 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      βΣΨΩΠD RΣΔSΩΠ no shit but Veers is my fav

    • @oom-3262
      @oom-3262 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You stand correct

    • @Atriox2004
      @Atriox2004 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @OOM- 32... you’re a droid yet you think Veers is better?

    • @casualtaco2154
      @casualtaco2154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Veers being top: rational.
      Grievous being second: rational.
      Madine being third: rational.
      Hux being on this list: how to teleport into someone’s house and slap them.

    • @glados8653
      @glados8653 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ha ha my fellow soldiers (cough cough)

  • @generalgrievous4341
    @generalgrievous4341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    (Grievous, I hope you realise, was able to not only unite the Kaleesh warlords under one army, which is godlike in itself, but take a relatively small army with real world technology at best, 1880s technology at worst, and defeat one of the largest empires in the galaxy, armed with blasters and the like. Veers had control of the largest army in the galaxy against a ragtag group of alien slaves and outer rim farmers and *still* lost? Remind me, now, who takes the number one spot.)

    • @James-pt2vk
      @James-pt2vk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah i get the impression eck ignored actual feats for this one because grievous dominates everyone on this list for that war alone and that was before enhancement. If veers was killed it wouldnt of been a crippling blow for the empire but if grievous was killed it would of changed the tide of the war

    • @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832
      @darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mesa is the best.
      Grevius close second.

    • @courier5156
      @courier5156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thrawn wouldve been number 1 easy think about it in legends and disney canon thrawn 99% of the time wins battle after battle after battle through his genius mind and amazing strategies destroying one rebel cell after another besides vader thrawn had the most imperial victories on record (I think I havent checked in a while but come on thrawn is amazing and is obviously better than veers)

    • @OK-yy6qz
      @OK-yy6qz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@courier5156 Thrawn is an Admiral not a General

  • @lordbrain8867
    @lordbrain8867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    My favorite description of General Veers is Space Rommel

    • @Darksaviour
      @Darksaviour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Robert Baratheon
      Thrawn I feel is space Rommel

    • @two5126
      @two5126 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Travis Illerbrun Rommel is a good general but not on the same level as thrawn imo

    • @thekillers1stfan
      @thekillers1stfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rommel got beat down by Montgomery tho

    • @L.P.1987
      @L.P.1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thrawn is Manstein.

    • @michaelterrell5061
      @michaelterrell5061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@two5126 That’s probability because Thrawn is an admiral.

  • @robertwadsworth3411
    @robertwadsworth3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    While his tactics lacked subtlety Grievous did know how to wage gorilla warfare and how to fight with limited supplies as he did that with the Kaleesh back when he was fully organic it's just between the things they did to his mind and the near endless supply of droids stuff like that wasn't needed most of the time. I personally think he could do just as well if he had a limited amount of good battle droids at his command and still be as successful if not more thanks to the lack of b1 stupidity than he already was. Just think if he had all the HK51 droids you see on the ship in Section X.

    • @basilharpham9372
      @basilharpham9372 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      not to mention all he ha for soldiers where droids and the droids where utterly useless

    • @GabeNsApostle
      @GabeNsApostle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Gorilla warfare?

    • @schlacked5447
      @schlacked5447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@GabeNsApostle I'm imagining an army of Harambes

    • @emperorxander666
      @emperorxander666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      he was only given what he needed to keep the war going if he wasn't being held back he would have won the war

    • @robertwadsworth3411
      @robertwadsworth3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@GabeNsApostle when his home planet was being invaded he lead against them and nearly won till the invaders went to the Republic and made it look like the Kaleesh were in the wrong and started to starve them to death it's one of the main reasons he hates the Republic.

  • @CaptainM792
    @CaptainM792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    General Hux is the worst general of Star Wars.

    • @frostyoreo8657
      @frostyoreo8657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Have you seen general hux. He is treated like a joke and has the worst tactics.

    • @deadshot-qz5rk
      @deadshot-qz5rk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You forget general krel

    • @Bryan-dr5qy
      @Bryan-dr5qy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@frostyoreo8657 That's the point, it's meant to show how fragmented The First Order is, most of the new guys are not loyal and will backstab anyone, while the old Imperials like Canady are loyal and actually competent. Hux just got to where he was because of all the skeletons in his closet and because he pushed for technological advancement, which was what Snoke used him for.

    • @talesofluminFan
      @talesofluminFan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      General Hugs

    • @nicolas.p331
      @nicolas.p331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@deadshot-qz5rk Krel was one of the best general of the war, he wasn't very... Sane however.

  • @readable95
    @readable95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Wasn’t grievous meant to be a good military leader before he got all robotified

    • @maxkaufmann833
      @maxkaufmann833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Grievous was a Kaleesh warlord before his cybernetic changes due to Count Dooku. Grievous was very very skilled in Legends, Canon really dumbs him down.

  • @subscribersnovideo-xj5ic
    @subscribersnovideo-xj5ic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I think grievous should be #2 or even 1 if you accounted for his pre cyborg career. Like madine he was usually an underdog who had to fight against several larger factions as he tried to free his people. However when he became a cyborg it seemed that like Vader, he was in constant agony do to his augmentations, which probably explains why he became more of a monster than a man. Another reason his tactical skill could have been handicapped during the clone war is that he grew up fighting droids and utterly despised them. Due to this, he treated them like trash and probably hated them more than the clones. This hate for droids was also caused him to hate himself since a lot of people mistook him for a droid. All in all I believe that pre cyborg grievous leading a large army of Kaleeshian warriors would be more than a match for madine and could probably give veers a run for his money.

  • @brucejedilee5290
    @brucejedilee5290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Grevious, at least if we are going by legends. There are only a few characters who could beat him, in fact I can only think of two who could almost be guaranteed to do it and they are Revan and Thrawn.

    • @kenneth9452
      @kenneth9452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thrawn is best at space battles

    • @brucejedilee5290
      @brucejedilee5290 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kenneth9452 Actually he is a master when it comes to ground combat as well.

    • @fizzlewick
      @fizzlewick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@kenneth9452 thrawn could command anything. Give him a podracer, two banthas and 1 blaster rifle, and he conqers a planet with it...

    • @sbeveroni2048
      @sbeveroni2048 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@fizzlewick I read bananas instead of banthas and you would still be right.

    • @SensuixShinobu7
      @SensuixShinobu7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Grievous is smarter then thrawn, he'd win. I know people wont agree, it'd be tough but Grievous is the best General in star Wars and barely anyone can beat him in a fight, he almost killed the strongest jedi of all time in a 1v1.

  • @dead-ishchannel6212
    @dead-ishchannel6212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Grievous is my personal favorite

  • @tomsimpkins1211
    @tomsimpkins1211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I feel like Grievous defeating the Night Sisters is heavily underhyped, he full on stomped an entire clan of force sensitives like it was just a hobby of his.

    • @michaelterrell5061
      @michaelterrell5061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair they had like force bows and could do absolutely nothing against blaster fire which appears to me that they didn’t have precognition. I’d argue that they were mostly under average youngling to Palawan level(except for mother Talzin who was likely close to sidious and yoda in the force).

  • @erickuo2786
    @erickuo2786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Change the title to; BEST GENERAL on hand to hand combat. Our glory General Grevous will be happier.

    • @sadeknight9112
      @sadeknight9112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Eric Kuo General Kenobi, then we’ll see who’s better at hand to hand combat

  • @rustedgreatsword4902
    @rustedgreatsword4902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    The cgi clone wars show only shows him going against plot armor and bad writing, which was more dangerous than any jedi to a main villain. Legends shows him as a beast, and tactically he was mostly unrivaled. If we go by the new canon, thrawn is really incompetent compared to legends for the same reason, but we know different.

    • @patrickfrancis9245
      @patrickfrancis9245 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agreed on canon Grievous but canon Thrawn is still good. Rebels does weaken him a bit but the canon Thrawn novels are the same Thrawn we always knew.

    • @rustedgreatsword4902
      @rustedgreatsword4902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@patrickfrancis9245 the comics are okay for both of them. But the shows are too scared to show them asnthey should be. Maybe with the last season and later media we can see them in all their glory.

    • @Bryan-dr5qy
      @Bryan-dr5qy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Grievous in Canon is more consistent with the movies but he still has his achievements. He destroyed Obi-Wan's flagship, The Negotiator, he took over Dathomir, he decimated Depa Bilaba's forces with 90% casualties, he even managed to outnumber and outlast Maul's Mandalorian Army. Grievous is at his best when he can outlast, outnumber and emotionally manipulate his opponents, Nahdar Vebb being an example. It's just being so ruthless means he loses all subtlely, so the tides can turn against him when his opponents know how to restrain themselves. But if someone tries to meet Grievous head on with impulsiveness they're playing into his hands. He's opportunistic but still a proud warrior.

    • @harrysmith1711
      @harrysmith1711 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@patrickfrancis9245 Agreed. In two whole seasons his only mistake was holding little regard for, and underestimating the power of the Force and the Jedi

    • @lillith3159
      @lillith3159 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And his obsession with Obi Wan.

  • @Roflberrypwnkac
    @Roflberrypwnkac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Anyone else think General Whorm loathsome was a great commander? he beat the clones fairly easy, and due to his classic honor and being pragmatic he even spared the clones and kenobi whilst he could have simply slaughtered them , in spite of plot armor. I'm quite fond of him.

    • @soldier_6641
      @soldier_6641 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      *UNIMPORTANT CHARACTER*

  • @O_CABBAGE
    @O_CABBAGE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "General Grievous is number 3"
    r/prequelmemes: "you are a bold one"

  • @toby1061
    @toby1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think for Greivous you should have looked back at the Wars he was in before he became a Cyborg, when he wasn’t being influenced by Palpatine. He was able to turn a losing war around and then was able to push a devastating campaign that was only stopped but the Jedi.

  • @darwinxavier3516
    @darwinxavier3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    If we include the Genndy Tartarkovsky miniseries, I say Grievous.

  • @danielwechter601
    @danielwechter601 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Stats right now:
    Madine: 12%
    Veers: 56%
    Grievous: 30%
    Hux: 0%
    HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @ajczajkowski4205
    @ajczajkowski4205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There’s actually a deleted scene in ESB where a rebel pilot flys his snowspeeder into the head of Veers AT-AT, and Veers dies with it. Don’t know what to count a deleted scene as though.

  • @HazzronIV
    @HazzronIV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'll just toss this out there but when deeming a worthy general it's also important to remember not just his deeds on and off the field but also his enemies. General Grievous fought a war against not only the Jedi but in some cases his own superiors who had never intended his army to succeed, this had it's advantages but majorly gimped his army. I seriously doubt the first order or the rebel alliance would have fared as well against an enemy like the republic and their army of Jedi. General Grievous is worthy of villainous respect for that alone.

  • @Ms_Fortunes
    @Ms_Fortunes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From what I've found, General Veers survived in canon, but was severely wounded when his walker, Blizzard 1, was destroyed when a Snowspeeder crashed into the cockpit. Veers was the only survivor, but suffered major injuries to his leg, so he was forever bound to a power chair to move around.

  • @griffynkennedy1293
    @griffynkennedy1293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love Your videos, Eck!!!

  • @_____________1120
    @_____________1120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If we're talk Grievous from legends or even 2003 clone wars then he beats all these other generals by miles

  • @Thibull
    @Thibull 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This outro is a real masterpiece 😂

  • @edlippincott6205
    @edlippincott6205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    #askEck If you were a force sensitive philosopher in the star wars universe and were creating your own order of force practitioners what would be its characteristics aka philosophies, teaching methods, abilities you would focus on, perspective on the light and dark side. etc

  • @MournfulDust
    @MournfulDust 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really liked Veers from the moment i first saw the Empire strikes back, maybe because he was obviously very different to the babbling officers we had seen so far (with the exception of mostly Tarkin), and i became a "fan" of sorts after playing EaW as the Empire.
    I think the guy is a good example of an imperial officer how they all should have been (from an in-universe perspective), and as far as i know he, while being ruthless when needed, was not a sadist and did things the most efficient way, not the most gruesome.

  • @lisarees2703
    @lisarees2703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for putting Veers (my favorite character by far!) as number 1! Veers' story, especially in Legends, is absolutely fascinating, and he's the one Imperial officer who actually did his job to perfection. Completely agree with this list!

  • @adrianaune6413
    @adrianaune6413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What i though before watching this video: Grevious was more like the Jedi, not really a strategist, more like leading the front line, single handle just slaughtering the more high-skilled enemies like Jedi and so letting the droids take down the clones. I really didn’t expect him to be kinda known as a “strategic genius” or anything like it, but I think it could fit him, his hate for the Jedi really makes him concentrated on defeating the enemy, because it was personal. I really love how they go into detail on these things.

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder how Grievous would've fared if he wasn't manipulated and set to lose by Sidious. I feel like he's too much of a wildcard to properly rank. Veers and Madine are a coin-toss for first, IMO, so I guess I agree with the list entirely.

  • @DRTisKING
    @DRTisKING 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kenobi, Yoda, or Anakin should have been on the list with the six leaders being Hux

  • @strykerj2262
    @strykerj2262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    General Grevious. If the universe knew about all the memes he spawned, they'd immediately join the Separatists

  • @hmm2598
    @hmm2598 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im glad you cover this part of starwars galactic history.
    Like thrawn, other commanders had a moral code!

  • @HCUhardcoreUnited
    @HCUhardcoreUnited 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would rank General Grievous after Veers.

  • @matrimalviarin5043
    @matrimalviarin5043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Clearly the Republic, since they have GENERAL KENOBI

  • @devanwcisel4372
    @devanwcisel4372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A fine addition to my collection

  • @14cole19
    @14cole19 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ending made my day!

  • @ryantran9241
    @ryantran9241 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good on Madine for picking Captain Rex to attack on Endor.

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait really?

    • @robertwadsworth3411
      @robertwadsworth3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What... I thought Rex stayed with Vader.

    • @ryantran9241
      @ryantran9241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertwadsworth3411 movieweb.com/star-wars-rebels-return-jedi-captain-rex-theory/

  • @RamonIsHim
    @RamonIsHim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Title: “Factions Compared”
    Thumbnail: *“FATions Compared”*

  • @franklinvonfrankenstein1137
    @franklinvonfrankenstein1137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey @EckhartsLadder ! I love your videos!
    What about, which sci-fi faction has the best plasma guns? Or best laser guns? Star Wars, Halo, Fallout, Warhammer (or different factions) ?

  • @Seth10010
    @Seth10010 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these videos

  • @BeBetter22992
    @BeBetter22992 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dark Helmet Vs Darth Vader

  • @scorpixel1866
    @scorpixel1866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Poor Grievous, only 3rd,at least he can consolate himself by stretching the others^^
    As for Ecks question, i guess Super-Tactical droids are slightly superior to regular ones but with a capacity to learn beyond any other kind of inorganic?
    Since they can practice for an unlimited amount of time (unless destroyed) one of them would eventually surpass anything that cannot comptete with it's hardware/processing power (maybe force users strategists if they somehow manage to be completely unpredictable due to how vague the force is to fully comprehend?)

  • @kravenmaurhedd4264
    @kravenmaurhedd4264 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't usually comment on these but you're greatly undervaluing Grievous

  • @thomastam7338
    @thomastam7338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How could you leave out the infamous General Kenobi ?

  • @edenjung9816
    @edenjung9816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Eck. How are you doing?
    #askeck what are you thinking about the Jedi knight Games? Which one is your Favorite?
    Or what overall Star wars Game is your Favorite?

  • @dave212
    @dave212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really wonder... what if Veers was under the command of Thrawn...
    *Oof*

  • @OK-yy6qz
    @OK-yy6qz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know who's Going to be Last When the Introducing Footage of Him
    Is a Video of him Sweeping the flour with his Face

  • @fictiontheorizer4253
    @fictiontheorizer4253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's worth noting (in relation to one of your points) that in certain legends cannon that Sidous and Dooku also worked to keep the CIS from developing super weapons that were too powerful for the Republic to overcome, so that's something to keep in mind. That manipulation of the war was very much a two edged sword.

  • @DevinJarosz
    @DevinJarosz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So you’re telling me that rebels killed kidnapped soldiers? If that’s not wrong I don’t know what is.

  • @andresinish
    @andresinish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    love ur vids

  • @lordmega544
    @lordmega544 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you plz do a vid with all 6 canon factions compared. Would love to see that !

  • @james-1110
    @james-1110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    General Kalani was an amazing general i think for the CIS. He was able to manipulate kingships and formulate key strategies against the odds, as well as his clarity and independence, seen when he didn’t allow the shut down Command of his droids believing it was a republic trick.

  • @MrDrProfessor4
    @MrDrProfessor4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's too bad, though understandable, that any kind of convoluted tactics in space and on ground are pretty much exclusive to expanded universe content, be it Legends or Disney-era. Even Rebels, which had Thrawn in it, kept things simple or "vaguely implied to be complicated but never seen" during battle sequences. Looking at your opinion of this factions compared, it's really telling that, in the films only, the bottom two are major characters while the top two are pretty much just background extras.
    I know you'll get to this in the finale of the Vong sub-series. Won't stop me from going through the motions though.
    Anyways: Can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the entire franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!* I have made this request: one-hundred-twenty-two times.

  • @Prince_Luci
    @Prince_Luci 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just want to remind everyone that under Hux’s command the first order blew up like 7 whole planets and nearly wiped out the resistance in its entirety.

    • @mechcannon
      @mechcannon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I too can order people to press the button.

    • @antonhelsgaun
      @antonhelsgaun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were like 8 rebels and he failed to kill them

  • @yhormthejollygiant4327
    @yhormthejollygiant4327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a precious outro.

  • @killerclone1786
    @killerclone1786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a video on the best Clone Commanders and what was their best effective strategy and morale and caring for their men

  • @IrishPhoenix7
    @IrishPhoenix7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *shouts in Italian* General Kenobi!!!

  • @lieutenantnomad9198
    @lieutenantnomad9198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing

  • @SageSea1
    @SageSea1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When not a single soul says a thing about veers and he wins the poll because you said hes the best

  • @michaeldoorakkers615
    @michaeldoorakkers615 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When i read the title my brain immediately went VEERS haha but please do a video on the space admirals so youbcan wax poetic about bel Iblis

  • @scarface1138
    @scarface1138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Madine and Veers were played by Irish actors. #funfact

  • @nolandewell1102
    @nolandewell1102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like Veers was heavily inspired by Erwin Rommel

    • @Maliq28
      @Maliq28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erwin Rommel but more loyal

    • @nolandewell1102
      @nolandewell1102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Maliq28 more loyola? you talking about how it's suspected that he was apart of the plot to kill hitler

    • @Maliq28
      @Maliq28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nolandewell1102 yep

  • @patrickmorin752
    @patrickmorin752 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For your next fraction compared can you please do which fraction has the best shuttle

  • @alexbednarz8085
    @alexbednarz8085 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've earned the approval of my crew

  • @Blitzkrieg23
    @Blitzkrieg23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:13 it reminds me about Spartans? Or it's just me

  • @juanlodri5964
    @juanlodri5964 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Hux gets 0% of the votes*
    "I love democracy."

  • @smc0718
    @smc0718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:03 is a picture of the new geonosis map in battlefront 2

  • @legomancb12
    @legomancb12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember some line in some canon/legends material that said that Palps had underestimated Grievous and had to weaken the Separatist army before it worked too well and overran the Republic.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best mass production mechs:
    UN Spacey( SDF Macross)
    Earth Federation( UC Gundam)
    The Clans( Battletech)
    Terran Dominion( StarCraft).

    • @badwrongfun5541
      @badwrongfun5541 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Question is what unit would represent the Federation? Do the Gun EZ (and it's space variant the Gun Blaster) count as Federation or League Militaire units? Do they get the James Gun? Or do they get the Jegan since that was the unit that was used for the longest? Or are they stuck with GMs because that's the iconic unit?

  • @elichalfant941
    @elichalfant941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hello There

  • @eeeeee9953
    @eeeeee9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the thumbnail. The next centricide reboot seems fantastic

  • @mementomori771
    @mementomori771 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see some old republic lore or characters in factions compared

  • @sithmaster4305
    @sithmaster4305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I have to disagree with your choice for placing Hux on this specific list instead of a clone, or jedi general. Hux is incompetent, and a fool. He hardly deserves any credit until the canon gives him a shred of it. The 1st place ruling I'd also disagree on the Rebel General was considered the best in the galaxy AFTER the war, and Veers was considered the best in the empire with him but he had not arguably hit his stride, and notability until he had already defected to the Rebel Alliance.

    • @scytheseven9173
      @scytheseven9173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Canon will never give Hux any credit because his incompetence is the point. He only got to his position, like many other First Order leaders, through backstabbing and, in his case, a little bit of nepotism. Neither of those things an effective general makes, but such is the way of the dark side. He is intentionally comic relief at best.

  • @MRDLT00
    @MRDLT00 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please tell me you're gonna use Grevious from Legends and not that damn 2008 series. DX

  • @lou3712
    @lou3712 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Best General realizes the importance of having great facial hair and the High Ground

  • @GenStallion
    @GenStallion 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a thought, what about an episode about the human life span between the different universes.

  • @mightystriker3255
    @mightystriker3255 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Notification squad like it up

  • @tommymaxey2665
    @tommymaxey2665 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yeah Hux is just horrible mabye some better writing could make him more dangerous rather than a cheap joke

    • @willhuey4891
      @willhuey4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the first movie the force awakens made him seem dangerous.

  • @coryseavers2932
    @coryseavers2932 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am i the only one who would love to see more videos including general grevious

  • @mafianpingu9399
    @mafianpingu9399 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dream battle
    General Grievous vs General Veers!!!
    Now that's worth watching because think about it there both very good strategist and taction it would be a very intense match

  • @german_doomer9934
    @german_doomer9934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im still at the mid of the video and already know that hux will be the worst on the list

  • @thedishonoredamerican129
    @thedishonoredamerican129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Notification squad where are you?

  • @tilltronje1623
    @tilltronje1623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw Hux on the thumbnail and thought: "has he gone mental??"

    • @willhuey4891
      @willhuey4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hux was kylos punching bag in the last two movies.

  • @el_TAM_YT
    @el_TAM_YT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a best spy factions compared!
    Bazine Netal, light side Cipher Nine, Nom Anor, Theron Shan, Kyle Katarn...