One of the strengths of the S9 is reliable autofocus. The xm5 seems to hunt a bit. So the af and ibis for a video focused camera give a big edge to the S9. However, I do much prefer the styling of the xm5 body and it would be a great camera to put on a small gimbal .... but that af hunting ... At this point the S9 is the better buy at the increased cost and with the compact 18-40mm lens. If the af is made more reliable, the xm5 would be the better buy if placed on a portable gimbal.
I love Fuji and only ever buy this brand, however, the fact that the new X-M doesn’t have ibis for the market that it’s trying to reach is a massive balls-up. You’d have to be absolutely mental to buy one!
Nice comparison. I’m a Fuji guy and I own the LUMIX S9 as well. Fuji hit a nice budget option but it falls way behind the S9 but hit a good price. The AF on the S9 kills the Fuji as does the IBIS. Lumix Lab is superior to Fuji app by leaps and transfer of a recipe/LUT is much easier on S9 and more plentiful (holds more). The Fuji colors and recipes are better IMO but not by a lot. LUMIX LUTs are identical when going from photos and videos. The Fuji doesn’t do recipes for video…it can get close to matching but the setting on photo and video are different on Fuji and exact same on S9. The S9 can drop into APS-C crop instantly. The Fuji has better slow motion video by a lot it also has better color science for photography but not video. The kit lens offerings without a doubt are better on the S9 and I’ve used both. All that said, if you just do photography…go Fuji it’s better at it. Video is S9 all the way. In The States, the Fuji price is a little less than half the S9. I think for Fuji the key is the low price. Great value for what you get performance wise. The FF S9 fills that same role for the video market. Without an EVF, I’m giving the S9 AF/IBIS extra points for usability. The S9 will lock on with AF-C and not let go while stabilizing everything. Fuji can’t do that. As for menus the S9 is well organized and even tells you exactly why an option is grayed out. Both cameras have the distinction of being on the low end of the offerings for both companies. Both great cameras though.
Being a stills shooter, I am biased towards those offerings. Funny thing about IBIS, I do have the X-H1 with IBIS, and very rarely use it. If I'm shooting slow (usually low light landscapes) I'll be on the tripod.
@@GregCarrick I’m old and over caffeinated and do everything handheld lol. I also walk and talk in my vids and I also got really tired of action cameras for my video. I’m run and gun and I never do sit down type videos. If I used a tripod or gimbal I’d likely go Fuji and get along just fine. I do wish the S9 had the slow motion video my X-Pro3 has.
Good, better, best: Olympus E-10 IV. OM-5. OM-1 II. I don't think anything else is current. Me, I have no use for the first because it lacks essential features. I have an OM-5. I'd like an OM--1 II, but $$$$.
Fuji obviously focussed the X-M5 towards video. Hopefully they will release a parallel version (like the X-H2 series did) which is photo-centric. That is, by adding IBIS, replacing the flippy-swivel screen with a tilt screen, and removing the fan attachment (which is not possible on a tilt screen anyway). Upping the screen resolution would also be nice, but I understand they are building the X-M5 to a price point. I'm on the fence wrt the film sim' dial, and would have preferred a d-pad to the joystick (the d-pad giving 4 extra function buttons ). For the moment, I'll put up with the limitations of the X-M1 for street photography.
@@Raist3db Yes, of course .. it's a camera. It takes stills .... with mechanical and/or electronic shutter. It's actually a very capable stills camera. However, keep in mind: digital image stabilisation (for video only), microphone direction and noise reduction settings (video only), as well as f-log2, LP mode, and short movie mode (all video only). The above, and the flippy screen, the mic and headphone jacks, and vertical mode for vlogging, target it towards video use. If it was targeted more towards stills, it would have retained the tilt screen of the X-M1. Just my opinions though.
@@kennethbehrens8874 I do see your point, I do think the XM5 is also aimed at some photographers looking for a compact travel or street body. Basically Fuji could have skipped entirely on a hot flash socket and mechanical shutter but they didn't. They are also there for a reason.
Thanks for putting your intentions in the first 10 seconds. You saved me some time, so I'll spend a bit of it giving you a comment for your trouble (cuz I don't want to watch a video on the S9, from someone who doesn't have it/won't touch it).
I have seen a few reviews of the S9 by people actually using it, and I get the impression that they either use work-arounds or resign themselves to the limitations. I am currently using a Lumix GX8, and discovering what you have long said about the advantages of multiple dials and buttons. It's not the most modern camera, but it has excellent EVF and screen, IBIS and stabilised lenses, etc, etc. I can't understand why, when Panasonic has been able to make good cameras in the past, they seem to have been half asleep when creating something modern. I mentioned the X-M5 on a forum a day or two back, as evidence that it's possible to do better. I think that camera companies are spooked by mobile phones and don't really know what they want to do, but some are more spooked than others.
@@Metro6am One person had found an optical viewfinder that matched the lens, and, of course, the short filming times can be worked around with judicious editing and insertions.
@@silverstreettalks343 I’ve seen one person use one of those viewfinders.. recording limits were lifted last week. S9 was aimed at short form creators but ended up being really popular with experienced (and vocal) pros wanting to downsize from the bigger LUMIX cams
I like the MX5 ergonomics Small light easy to use It's a niche camera targeted at certain people and that's great. No evf isn't a deal breaker. I take lots of pics using intitution not even looking at screen "that looks about right" I feel the lumix is overpriced for what it is The fuji colours will help sell this camera. I think 1399 is up there given that you can get an XT3 for that or even XT4 But overall it's great addition to fuju line up Great honest video GREG. NEV
@@nevvanclarke9225 I find funny those that say the xm5 as designed not having an evf is. Deal breaker when one of the most well regarded street cameras - the Ricoh GR line doesn’t have one. I understand for some it may be a deal breaker but it’s not like it fails for all photography
@@Raist3db I totally agree when I'm doing street photography. I don't even look at the viewfinder. I kinda just point the camera in the right direction. I don't take street Photography seriously let's face it. There's not many street photographers making money. It's kind of just something to do to fill some time and enjoy yourself so yeah, you can shoot without an EVF easily.
@@nevvanclarke9225 Well to be clear- just because you are not making money with street photography doesn't mean you can't take it seriously for your photography. There's many types and situations that are all individual. I think while an EVF has its niceties, one for he most well regarded cameras for street - the GR line- doesn't have an EVF and great work has been done with it. So doesn't seem that for all photographers an EVF is essential. Now, it doesn't seem Fuji did a "super bright" LCD option like they did on their old F700/F710/F810 fine pix back then. That to me is a bit dissappointing- basically if you are going to go with one design, go in that direction and implement it well considering what the form factor is.
Hi Greg, you make some good points about these cameras. Overall I agree, for this sort of young hipster Vlogging thing the X-M5 is a better option than the S9, but.... *cough* Sony *cough* The way I see it, in the S9 absence of mechanical shutter isn't the problem, its the slow readout speed of the sensor. The Nikon Z8 and Z9 do just fine without a mechanical shutter. Electronic shutter is the future, eventually the concern over shutter count will be eliminated when looking at used camera bodies. But for me the D700 retains a certain old world charm and I'll never ever part with mine. For me, no viewfinder = no sale, just can't cope without one. As far as Vlog cams go, for small and compact, DJI Osmo Pocket 3 is the outright winner, nothing comes close, or if you want larger with interchangeable lenses Sony ZV-E10ii has AF that works or if you want to pay the FullFrameTax, ZV-E1. Until Fuji gets their newer cameras autofocus sorted there's no way I would consider one. Now let's talk about that dreaded Film Sim dial... I think I finally understand it. When ready to take an image you can spin the filmsim dial and see very quickly in real time what the different sims look like on the screen. My mind is now changed, I think its a good idea..... (runs away and hides)
A brave man mentions the S word to a Fujifilm diehard ;) As for EVFs, I was an avid user, until I got an X70. Using the screen seemed to suit the very small body. Nowadays, with my cameras usually on a tripod, using the screen is more practical too, even with big bodies like my GFX 50R. I agree about Fuji autofocus, I expect they'll get it right soon, otherwise they'll be seen as a joke. I've though about the Pocket 3 to replace my cough SONY cough X3000, but I've had one of those little gimple units before and it just up and died on me. An expensive outlay that one, so I'm not really trusting them yet. However, any camera is good if it suits you.
As a big fan and an user of the ZVE10II (I use it as a family camera), I would have bought the XM5 if it was released earlier simply for the cheaper price and Mechanical shutter lol.
If I saw correctly you mentioned the S9 JPEGS are 12 megapixels, even when the sensor is 24 MP. This is not correct if I understood correctly- the S9 can capture 24 MP shots. That said, I would pick the Fuji for being small and I look at it as a street photography camera (I don't normally do video at all).
Yep, it can capture 24mp, like my X-E4. However, an image will only be 24mp if the image is absolutely full of detail (colour, contrast, subject). The info that is stored in an image is only how much it needs to be, so I should have said, 'images are often around 12mp'.
@@GregCarrick I still don't understand. How is the S9 doing anything different here than any other camera in the market with a color filter array? (i.e. not a Foveon sensor).
@@Raist3db it is no different. But people are so fixed on the MP race in sensors that they don't realise a lot of those large MP sensors don't make for larger files.
@@GregCarrick I still trying to understand why you say it only effectively yields 12MP. I have yet to see how we get there from 24 MP. And when shooting RAW I sure see larger files from higher MP count cameras when shooting uncompressed lossless raws. So still not sure how we get from the 24MP to 12MP.
@@Raist3db Any camera can get from 24MP to 12MP. You misquote me by saying my words were 'it only effectively yields 12MP', when I said 'normal jpgs coming out of them are about 12MP'. Like any camera, it can do more, especially if set to fine rather than normal, but expecting every image to be the full MP count of 24MP is not realistic. You seem to be stuck on this point. Bear in mind that I had just finished talking about it's ability to produce 96MP images. Shooting in RAW is another thing altogether which was never in my review, so bringing that up is irrelevant. I think I've explained this as clearly as I can, so I'll close my responses here.
This is a bit long but explains my 'journey'. I've only got back into photography over the last year and quickly moved from an OM-D E-M10 to a used X-E4, loved it. I bought the Lumix S9 and quickly sold it on because the lens eco-system is too bulky and expensive, and I want a viewfinder on my main camera. I did love the image quality and IBIS though. I part exchanged the X-E4 for an X-S20 as I need to get into video more, of moving cars, for my car club. In the meantime fascinated by the X-M1 I have been carrying a well used one of these around when photography isn't my main reason for being out as the S20 is bulky with the battery grip. Seeing the X-M5 I ordered one thinking a nice upgrade to the M1 would be good and at the price point a part-ex means it's at a very low price point. However I think what I really miss is my X-E4 and its viewfinder when on a walk, so the jury is out, do I buy the X-M5 when it's in stock or do I pass and wait until the X-E5 arrives as I hope it'll be a mashup of the X-S20 and X-M5. I do think this 'content creator' marketing fad is muddying the waters for us mainly stills photographers. Thanks for reading to the end!
I think that everyone using cameras is saying, "They made a great camera in the AB-5 and a great camera in the CD-3, but why can't they combine the best features of both and make something that we are all asking for?" I wonder which users they talk to for feedback. Also, are they asking long-term users? You need the dopamine hit to wear off and the blackened nail (from slipping as you try to open the swing out screen) to heal before you are realistic about any piece of equipment. There's a lot of whynottery going on.
@@GregCarrick Panasonic brought out the G100 a little while back, which is, in some ways, the more direct challenger to the X-M5, in M-4/3 format. It has the surround sound microphones, a fully articulated 1.8M dot screen, EVF, etc, but is all plastic and has had some ruggedness issues. It has full IBIS for photography, but electronic body stabilisation for video. But if they can put IBIS into a relatively cheap camera like that, it shouldn't be beyond them to put it into something like the X-M5
@@silverstreettalks343 I'd not be put off by plastic. NASA uses plastic in rockets. Depends on the plastic, I'd look more closely before dismissing it.
@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 , its step in the right direction, but over priced for what it is, and not mark on the fuji 15-45, which even maintains focus while zooming in or out.
@@pennysteam "and not mark on the fuji 15-45" - IMHO the focal range is far more useful (starts at real UWA compared to the 23mm of the Fuji) than that of the Fuji
Lack of flash is a killer for me. I would recommend the S9 to nobody. I would recommend the S5 series, I own two S1Rs, but I am a photographer. The S9 feature set should have been implemented as a G series camera, with flash, with XLR support, with IBIS. Maybe a GH variant, Panasonic is using a 25 Mpx M43 sensor these days, and has outstanding iBIS. I also require IBIS. So, not this Fujifilm camera.
@@Metro6am The S5 II is about one cup of tea heavier. The EVF can be used in any conditions. The LCD display fails miserably in bright sunlight. They should be considering the S5 II cameras.
@@oneeyedphotographer The S5II is 50% heavier and much bigger. I disagree on the LCD. I live in Spain and it's totally fine in very bright sunlight. I assume you don't own one?
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One of the strengths of the S9 is reliable autofocus. The xm5 seems to hunt a bit. So the af and ibis for a video focused camera give a big edge to the S9. However, I do much prefer the styling of the xm5 body and it would be a great camera to put on a small gimbal .... but that af hunting ... At this point the S9 is the better buy at the increased cost and with the compact 18-40mm lens. If the af is made more reliable, the xm5 would be the better buy if placed on a portable gimbal.
Pay a little more for an S5 II, or a G9 II. The latter combined with its lenses is a far lighter set of kit.
Reliable autofocus, from Panasonic, damn they have come a long way for sure.
I love Fuji and only ever buy this brand, however, the fact that the new X-M doesn’t have ibis for the market that it’s trying to reach is a massive balls-up. You’d have to be absolutely mental to buy one!
On the other hand Greg is a content creator and he's using an X-E4 to create this video, with no IBIS.
@@DavidMBanes He has a very steady left hand.
@@DavidMBanes yes on a tripod… Most content providers will be walking around!
@@silverstreettalks343 ok understood
@@NorthernMigrationTravel I am buying one for street photography. Seems great in that size with what it packs.
Nice comparison. I’m a Fuji guy and I own the LUMIX S9 as well. Fuji hit a nice budget option but it falls way behind the S9 but hit a good price. The AF on the S9 kills the Fuji as does the IBIS. Lumix Lab is superior to Fuji app by leaps and transfer of a recipe/LUT is much easier on S9 and more plentiful (holds more). The Fuji colors and recipes are better IMO but not by a lot. LUMIX LUTs are identical when going from photos and videos. The Fuji doesn’t do recipes for video…it can get close to matching but the setting on photo and video are different on Fuji and exact same on S9. The S9 can drop into APS-C crop instantly. The Fuji has better slow motion video by a lot it also has better color science for photography but not video. The kit lens offerings without a doubt are better on the S9 and I’ve used both. All that said, if you just do photography…go Fuji it’s better at it. Video is S9 all the way. In The States, the Fuji price is a little less than half the S9. I think for Fuji the key is the low price. Great value for what you get performance wise. The FF S9 fills that same role for the video market. Without an EVF, I’m giving the S9 AF/IBIS extra points for usability. The S9 will lock on with AF-C and not let go while stabilizing everything. Fuji can’t do that. As for menus the S9 is well organized and even tells you exactly why an option is grayed out. Both cameras have the distinction of being on the low end of the offerings for both companies. Both great cameras though.
Being a stills shooter, I am biased towards those offerings. Funny thing about IBIS, I do have the X-H1 with IBIS, and very rarely use it. If I'm shooting slow (usually low light landscapes) I'll be on the tripod.
@@GregCarrick I’m old and over caffeinated and do everything handheld lol. I also walk and talk in my vids and I also got really tired of action cameras for my video. I’m run and gun and I never do sit down type videos. If I used a tripod or gimbal I’d likely go Fuji and get along just fine. I do wish the S9 had the slow motion video my X-Pro3 has.
Another tragedy of the S9 is the lack of small lenses. All that IBIS and no (maybe a couple) small lenses.
The S9 lack of mechanical shutter kills it for video. You can induce banding pretty easily indoors.
All these people complaining that OM does nothing except wildlife cameras, meanwhile I'm sitting here thinking "what, _another_ vlogging camera?"
Good, better, best: Olympus E-10 IV. OM-5. OM-1 II. I don't think anything else is current. Me, I have no use for the first because it lacks essential features. I have an OM-5. I'd like an OM--1 II, but $$$$.
Fuji obviously focussed the X-M5 towards video. Hopefully they will release a parallel version (like the X-H2 series did) which is photo-centric. That is, by adding IBIS, replacing the flippy-swivel screen with a tilt screen, and removing the fan attachment (which is not possible on a tilt screen anyway). Upping the screen resolution would also be nice, but I understand they are building the X-M5 to a price point. I'm on the fence wrt the film sim' dial, and would have preferred a d-pad to the joystick (the d-pad giving 4 extra function buttons ). For the moment, I'll put up with the limitations of the X-M1 for street photography.
Yes, it's a purpose built camera, and I find the X-E4 suits me better.
@@kennethbehrens8874 if the xm5 was “obviously”focused for video it wouldn’t have a full mechanical shutter. It works for stills.
@@Raist3db Yes, of course .. it's a camera. It takes stills .... with mechanical and/or electronic shutter. It's actually a very capable stills camera. However, keep in mind: digital image stabilisation (for video only), microphone direction and noise reduction settings (video only), as well as f-log2, LP mode, and short movie mode (all video only). The above, and the flippy screen, the mic and headphone jacks, and vertical mode for vlogging, target it towards video use. If it was targeted more towards stills, it would have retained the tilt screen of the X-M1. Just my opinions though.
@@kennethbehrens8874 I do see your point, I do think the XM5 is also aimed at some photographers looking for a compact travel or street body. Basically Fuji could have skipped entirely on a hot flash socket and mechanical shutter but they didn't. They are also there for a reason.
Thanks for putting your intentions in the first 10 seconds. You saved me some time, so I'll spend a bit of it giving you a comment for your trouble (cuz I don't want to watch a video on the S9, from someone who doesn't have it/won't touch it).
I like to be honest and up front....
I have seen a few reviews of the S9 by people actually using it, and I get the impression that they either use work-arounds or resign themselves to the limitations.
I am currently using a Lumix GX8, and discovering what you have long said about the advantages of multiple dials and buttons. It's not the most modern camera, but it has excellent EVF and screen, IBIS and stabilised lenses, etc, etc. I can't understand why, when Panasonic has been able to make good cameras in the past, they seem to have been half asleep when creating something modern.
I mentioned the X-M5 on a forum a day or two back, as evidence that it's possible to do better.
I think that camera companies are spooked by mobile phones and don't really know what they want to do, but some are more spooked than others.
What work-arounds? the only issue I see with the S9 is the size of the lenses.
@@Metro6am One person had found an optical viewfinder that matched the lens, and, of course, the short filming times can be worked around with judicious editing and insertions.
@@silverstreettalks343 I’ve seen one person use one of those viewfinders.. recording limits were lifted last week. S9 was aimed at short form creators but ended up being really popular with experienced (and vocal) pros wanting to downsize from the bigger LUMIX cams
I like the MX5 ergonomics
Small light easy to use
It's a niche camera targeted at certain people and that's great. No evf isn't a deal breaker. I take lots of pics using intitution not even looking at screen "that looks about right"
I feel the lumix is overpriced for what it is
The fuji colours will help sell this camera.
I think 1399 is up there given that you can get an XT3 for that or even XT4
But overall it's great addition to fuju line up
Great honest video GREG. NEV
@@nevvanclarke9225 I find funny those that say the xm5 as designed not having an evf is. Deal breaker when one of the most well regarded street cameras - the Ricoh GR line doesn’t have one. I understand for some it may be a deal breaker but it’s not like it fails for all photography
@@Raist3db I totally agree when I'm doing street photography. I don't even look at the viewfinder. I kinda just point the camera in the right direction. I don't take street Photography seriously let's face it. There's not many street photographers making money. It's kind of just something to do to fill some time and enjoy yourself so yeah, you can shoot without an EVF easily.
@@nevvanclarke9225 Well to be clear- just because you are not making money with street photography doesn't mean you can't take it seriously for your photography. There's many types and situations that are all individual.
I think while an EVF has its niceties, one for he most well regarded cameras for street - the GR line- doesn't have an EVF and great work has been done with it. So doesn't seem that for all photographers an EVF is essential.
Now, it doesn't seem Fuji did a "super bright" LCD option like they did on their old F700/F710/F810 fine pix back then. That to me is a bit dissappointing- basically if you are going to go with one design, go in that direction and implement it well considering what the form factor is.
Great discussion point mate. I've just finished reviewing the XM5 and agree that the low res screen is one of the biggest fails in this design. G
@@gregcromie9939 looking forward to your thoughts
I like the color of lumix better than fuji
Hi Greg, you make some good points about these cameras.
Overall I agree, for this sort of young hipster Vlogging thing the X-M5 is a better option than the S9, but.... *cough* Sony *cough*
The way I see it, in the S9 absence of mechanical shutter isn't the problem, its the slow readout speed of the sensor.
The Nikon Z8 and Z9 do just fine without a mechanical shutter.
Electronic shutter is the future, eventually the concern over shutter count will be eliminated when looking at used camera bodies.
But for me the D700 retains a certain old world charm and I'll never ever part with mine.
For me, no viewfinder = no sale, just can't cope without one.
As far as Vlog cams go, for small and compact, DJI Osmo Pocket 3 is the outright winner, nothing comes close, or if you want larger with interchangeable lenses Sony ZV-E10ii has AF that works or if you want to pay the FullFrameTax, ZV-E1.
Until Fuji gets their newer cameras autofocus sorted there's no way I would consider one.
Now let's talk about that dreaded Film Sim dial... I think I finally understand it.
When ready to take an image you can spin the filmsim dial and see very quickly in real time what the different sims look like on the screen.
My mind is now changed, I think its a good idea..... (runs away and hides)
A brave man mentions the S word to a Fujifilm diehard ;) As for EVFs, I was an avid user, until I got an X70. Using the screen seemed to suit the very small body. Nowadays, with my cameras usually on a tripod, using the screen is more practical too, even with big bodies like my GFX 50R. I agree about Fuji autofocus, I expect they'll get it right soon, otherwise they'll be seen as a joke. I've though about the Pocket 3 to replace my cough SONY cough X3000, but I've had one of those little gimple units before and it just up and died on me. An expensive outlay that one, so I'm not really trusting them yet. However, any camera is good if it suits you.
As a big fan and an user of the ZVE10II (I use it as a family camera), I would have bought the XM5 if it was released earlier simply for the cheaper price and Mechanical shutter lol.
If I saw correctly you mentioned the S9 JPEGS are 12 megapixels, even when the sensor is 24 MP. This is not correct if I understood correctly- the S9 can capture 24 MP shots. That said, I would pick the Fuji for being small and I look at it as a street photography camera (I don't normally do video at all).
Yep, it can capture 24mp, like my X-E4. However, an image will only be 24mp if the image is absolutely full of detail (colour, contrast, subject). The info that is stored in an image is only how much it needs to be, so I should have said, 'images are often around 12mp'.
@@GregCarrick I still don't understand. How is the S9 doing anything different here than any other camera in the market with a color filter array? (i.e. not a Foveon sensor).
@@Raist3db it is no different. But people are so fixed on the MP race in sensors that they don't realise a lot of those large MP sensors don't make for larger files.
@@GregCarrick I still trying to understand why you say it only effectively yields 12MP. I have yet to see how we get there from 24 MP. And when shooting RAW I sure see larger files from higher MP count cameras when shooting uncompressed lossless raws.
So still not sure how we get from the 24MP to 12MP.
@@Raist3db Any camera can get from 24MP to 12MP. You misquote me by saying my words were 'it only effectively yields 12MP', when I said 'normal jpgs coming out of them are about 12MP'. Like any camera, it can do more, especially if set to fine rather than normal, but expecting every image to be the full MP count of 24MP is not realistic. You seem to be stuck on this point. Bear in mind that I had just finished talking about it's ability to produce 96MP images. Shooting in RAW is another thing altogether which was never in my review, so bringing that up is irrelevant. I think I've explained this as clearly as I can, so I'll close my responses here.
This is a bit long but explains my 'journey'. I've only got back into photography over the last year and quickly moved from an OM-D E-M10 to a used X-E4, loved it. I bought the Lumix S9 and quickly sold it on because the lens eco-system is too bulky and expensive, and I want a viewfinder on my main camera. I did love the image quality and IBIS though. I part exchanged the X-E4 for an X-S20 as I need to get into video more, of moving cars, for my car club.
In the meantime fascinated by the X-M1 I have been carrying a well used one of these around when photography isn't my main reason for being out as the S20 is bulky with the battery grip. Seeing the X-M5 I ordered one thinking a nice upgrade to the M1 would be good and at the price point a part-ex means it's at a very low price point.
However I think what I really miss is my X-E4 and its viewfinder when on a walk, so the jury is out, do I buy the X-M5 when it's in stock or do I pass and wait until the X-E5 arrives as I hope it'll be a mashup of the X-S20 and X-M5. I do think this 'content creator' marketing fad is muddying the waters for us mainly stills photographers. Thanks for reading to the end!
We are all hoping the X-E5 has IBIS. If they can put it into the X100VI then why not!
I think that everyone using cameras is saying, "They made a great camera in the AB-5 and a great camera in the CD-3, but why can't they combine the best features of both and make something that we are all asking for?" I wonder which users they talk to for feedback. Also, are they asking long-term users? You need the dopamine hit to wear off and the blackened nail (from slipping as you try to open the swing out screen) to heal before you are realistic about any piece of equipment. There's a lot of whynottery going on.
@@GregCarrick Panasonic brought out the G100 a little while back, which is, in some ways, the more direct challenger to the X-M5, in M-4/3 format. It has the surround sound microphones, a fully articulated 1.8M dot screen, EVF, etc, but is all plastic and has had some ruggedness issues. It has full IBIS for photography, but electronic body stabilisation for video.
But if they can put IBIS into a relatively cheap camera like that, it shouldn't be beyond them to put it into something like the X-M5
@@silverstreettalks343 some earlier Panasonics were really well sorted.
@@silverstreettalks343 I'd not be put off by plastic. NASA uses plastic in rockets. Depends on the plastic, I'd look more closely before dismissing it.
❤ if !? ..sony a7c vs Fuji x-m5 😅 for next time thanks
Unfortunately I don't use Sony, I think other photographers have compared these...
S9 makes no sense, small body but you are locked into large lenses or the next to useless pancake lens.
18-40...
@@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 , its step in the right direction, but over priced for what it is, and not mark on the fuji 15-45, which even maintains focus while zooming in or out.
@@pennysteam "and not mark on the fuji 15-45" - IMHO the focal range is far more useful (starts at real UWA compared to the 23mm of the Fuji) than that of the Fuji
Lack of flash is a killer for me. I would recommend the S9 to nobody. I would recommend the S5 series, I own two S1Rs, but I am a photographer.
The S9 feature set should have been implemented as a G series camera, with flash, with XLR support, with IBIS. Maybe a GH variant, Panasonic is using a 25 Mpx M43 sensor these days, and has outstanding iBIS.
I also require IBIS. So, not this Fujifilm camera.
No one looking at an S9 is also considering the much bigger S5..
@@Metro6am The S5 II is about one cup of tea heavier. The EVF can be used in any conditions. The LCD display fails miserably in bright sunlight. They should be considering the S5 II cameras.
@@oneeyedphotographer The S5II is 50% heavier and much bigger. I disagree on the LCD. I live in Spain and it's totally fine in very bright sunlight. I assume you don't own one?
ridiculous