Ford 3.5L EcoBoost Broken Exhaust Manifold Stud | Everything You Need to Know
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This guy and Ford Tech makuloco are the only Ford guys I listen to! Thanks for the content
Ford Boss Me?
Same
makuloco makes some comments that are not really correct but he's young. All in all I watch most of his vids too.
@@infinity3jif Ford boss me tends to add a lot of his own commentary and bias. Many of his videos are rants about how his job is hard. Everybody's job is hard
You forgot diesel tech ron and powerstroke tech talk with arod
replaced mine this week with BD Diesel manifolds. All turbo lines and connectors too. 4 days of hell but worth the peace of mind I have now.
owned a 2013 3.5 ecoboost (loved the truck overall) and due to this issue I will never again buy a truck or vehicle with a turbo, unless its for performance etc. Every thing you pointed out is exactly what happened to my truck, leaking coolant lines, bolts breaking in the back etc. I also had another issue I was able to fix myself, which was a blend air door actuator deep in the dash that broke. BTW, when I had this done about 6 months ago (in Cali) it cost me 4,000. I sold the truck right after, even though I "made money" on the sale, its still cost me 4k of my own money first. This should have been a legit recall, and fixed at the dealer/manufacturers expense.
Tbf it mostly depends on the engine. My 2.0 ecoboost has been excellent for me
This is normal wear and tear imo. I have a 5.7 jeep that can’t keep manifold studs to save its life. Every turbo car I’ve ever owned breaks studs - it’s just from heat cycling and cheap material.
@@94jettameowpsst my ram 5.7 same if I drive it every day never hear it as I use it now just drive it on weekends
It’s pretty normal my cohost f150 has been great. I would buy the same year again. It needs all the repairs he mentioned but my truck also has 150k miles and I haven’t spent a dime on the truck. Only oil changes
When will you be uploading the parts list? Really needed please!
What a great video.... this is the exact issue i am having with my 2011 F150 ecoboost. Turbo's, down pipe and y pipe have all been replaced and still making this noise. Thank you!!
I thank u so much for all the videos u make. It definitely helps me when I’m looking for a new vehicle and what to look for.
Not seen anyone work on these trucks with the cabs raised up Makes so much sense!
I’m having this issue with my truck and you helped me to fully understand it, thank you! Getting it repaired asap so I can keep my beloved 2013 on the road.
Same on my "new to me" 2013, how many miles you got on yours?
My 2013 ecoboost has 307k miles, I bought it in December 2013 as a demo with 4k miles, it is a supercrew, 4x4 with 3.55 rear axle, I had a issue with the timing chain, I had local dealer fix timing issue, @ 92k miles, my only issue with mine that has been a revolving issue is the volume of spark plugs that will loose there gap, I have just picked up a bad manifold leak, I am preparing myself to fix everything truck needs now. I have a 22 6.7 reg cab f350 srw 4x4 I drive as my daily for work and everything, I really appreciate your videos, I find serious value in them, there are too many ppl on TH-cam that think they know something, but what you have illustrated is that your experience and education on said vehicles I believe you have a level of excellence and experience that is beyond reproach. I’m in Huntsville AL and I would like you to do the repairs on my 2013 f150.
Thanks for listing other components you would change while the cab is off. Good video.
Enjoying your channel..... Keep'em coming. BTW I Love the 3.5 had a 14 and now a 22 model.
Everything i needed to know quickly with no bs.....great video man
Grand slam home run again sir. Thank you for the content, much respect for you keeping the content clean so thag ithg can be used by teachers in a classroom setting.
Thank you!
Dude! I love you! This is a well done video and very informative. I figured it was a manifold leak. That noise is driving me crazy.
First thing i did with my 1st gen 3.5L was swap exhaust manifolds to CRperformance full bore pollished manifolds. That with chip/ tune and exhaust really woke the truck up.
Good Video. Helped me figure out what my truck is doing. Looks like I have some work ahead of me.
Well presented Sir; information with occassioanl sense of humour. Thank You.
Can we get the parts list that you recommend please?
I am always looking for great content LIKE Ford tech Makuloco I get the most precise info ANYWHERE!!! and you are not an idiot because you two show how to do a proper service...
Extra,extra read all about it! ….I have a 2005 Ford e150 with 4.6 liter that has that exact same problem. (2 furthest back exhaust studs on passenger side broken causing a leak). Enter KAP (Kral Auto Parts LLC)…..they manufacture brackets that bolt onto empty, threaded holes on the head and then clamp down on the manifold to re-create a seal. I ordered one and it worked! Only took 45 minutes to install and only cost $73.00 including tax and shipping. Did not have to lift the motor or remove any parts. Genius invention!!
F-150 is not listed on their website. Have a part number?
I agree with everything youre replacing except i would use, whih i did use and are currently using, that is db diesel manifolds which give you 11 mounting holes and bigger ports.
I caught that intro sneaky guy! Thank you for the lessons. I couldn’t have done my work without your knowledge.
From watching your videos, is it correct that the 2021 and up 3.5L Eco Boost are the ones to get? In your other video, you mentioned the phasers were redesigned in the 2021and newer, correct?
You make great videos, man...keep up the good work!
Well that made it easy to show my buddy why his truck makes noise. thanks!
Very helpful you’re the man
Got both those issues on my 14 150. And the leaking turbo coolant fittings and degas bottle. Have mishimoto all aluminum radiator and degas tank, BD diesel manifolds and garret stage 1 power ax turbos, vacuum pump and all new coolant hoses and lines ready to go. Deciding on which turbo back exhaust system to finish it all off. Leaning to the spd hi flow y pipe and hx series cat back w stage 2 resonator. Wondering flying wrench given my plans would you still lift the cab? Love the channel all the way from Canada.
One day I wanna pull a cab. When I do, I’ll b checking your vids.
Great video …liked and subscribed😉 just a question of clarification did you state that the new manifold with the extra stud bolt up onto the existing G1 head?
WHERES THIS PARTS LIST WHAT IS THE REVISED MANIFOLD PN????
Any chance of a parts list?
Hi, love the channel. If you were buying an F150, would you hunt a particular used year or new? Which engine do ypu think is the most reliable?
Thank you!
Great video thank you! Could you post a link to where I can buy the updated exhaust manifold?
Yup... I have a 2015 transit with the same problem with 128500 miles on it... I bought the bd diesel upgraded manifolds... also replacing turbos, all coolant pipes a0nd oil supply fittings to the turbos and coolant tubes and fittings...timing chains.. tensioners.. water pump.. phasers.. oil pump.. fuel rails and injectors... coils and spark plugs... im pretty much at about 3500 in parts and saving labor doing it all myself. It's going to be fun. I cand remove the cab.. im removing the entire front end of the van to gain access to both sides of the engine and front. Will be a load of fun.
HEY MAYSON..... There you are. Great Video once again. Man Pulling that Cab Off, Piece a Cake for you now day's. As an F-150 Owner, 2022 New Truck, It's Scary, Just seems like a LOT Can go wrong there. Like, New Noise's, Bolt's Left Loose, Wires Pinched??? Man. I don't know about that. Looks like a GREAT way to Expose stuff that would otherwise Not be very accessible at all. And All those Part's to replace, I would also replace that stuff! It's Buried and too difficult to go back a 2nd time. Do it Once, Do it Right!!!
I’ve got a cab off of a 16 right now. Decided to go that route after watching your videos, so far it’s been gravy with everything out in the open.
So much easier
What is the part number on the manifold? I’ve heard that ford is trying to sell the old ones to people even though they ask for the new style ones.
@@shiniquajones2812I’ve been wondering this same exact thing….
For the RH manifold at least, the older PN was BL3Z-9431-B and the revised one is BL3Z-9431-D
. . . Same PN apart from suffix D for the later version.
@@acase11 BL3Z-9431-D
Thanks!
My 13 f150 is making a strange intermittent noise from the driver side but it's not whistling. it's a deck of cards shuffling kind of sound that comes and goes with acceleration. I left you another comment on another video letting you know I've replace the rid bearings in my motor. now I'm thinking of pulling the turbos when it warms up a little. I purchased bd manifolds, low mileage turbos, stainless lines with fittings and im thinking of upgrading the turbo cartridges or getting new balanced assemblies from c&r while I'm doing this. I won't be pulling the cab because I found a fairly simple way to replace the rear fittings without doing it. After eliminating most of the oil leaks I think my passenger valve cover is leaking after installing a new vacuum pump yesterday .
Love it.
I have a 2015 3.5 Ecoboost with 104,000, I believe left side is leaking coolant at the turbocharger, otherwise I have not had any problems with this truck. I like the idea of getting the cab off the frame and replacing both turbochargers, coolant lines, manifords, bolts and whatever else you have suggested in this video all at the same time.
So if I bring this truck into the dealership where you work how long does it take once the work gets started?
"everything you need to know" yup I'd say you hit the mark on that statement, good video
Thanks a lot brother. Hopefully more videos u put out on 2015 ford f150 eco boost will help me diy. I just changed out my #3 ignition coil and all spark plugs. I saved hundreds of $. I’m a first time truck owner n bought this 2015 ford f150 lariat eco boost
how many miles u got on ur 15
Happening to me on my 15' at 86k miles. Have a broken stud on each side. ONly squeek noise on passenger side. Dealer says I need both. Quoted $4700 for repair.@@TheLawlessGang
GOOD JOB
I know you can lift the cab or even do it through the fenders have you done it both ways? I like lifting the cab but sometimes I do it from the fenders too!
Just had both of mine replaced. Driver side was about 1/8 and the passenger was about 1/4 in off straight. Current central California price was $5,200!!
Could probably have done it myself, but not enough time to do it.
Would you recommend a break in period for these, or driving easy on it for a certain amount of miles? A re-check of the bolts at some point?
Hey man love the videos. How far from Bham are you?
I've heard that the turbos used are different in transversely mounted applications, do you know if that's true? If yes, do they also have both oil and coolant lines or just oil lines?
Still planning on doing a video about the waste gate rattle on the gen2 3.5 ecoboosts?
Off topic but watch a lot of your videos, have you heard or diagnosed a weird chirp/bark from a 6r80 4-3 downshift and sometimes a 3-4 up shift?
Hey @Flying Wrenches! I've got a cab off in my bay and parts on back order,, whats a good aftermarket brand of valve covers for 14 and 17 f150s that you would recommend? Thanks.
I thought you had to be in Alabama ! Me to ! N E of Bham . I could drop my truck off on the way to Gulf Shores. 2015 3.5 ecoboost it needs everything you listed. Oil changes and recall on the master cyl all that's been done I am aware of.
The phaser problem that ford had with the 3.5 l What year did they update the phasers to get rid of that Phaser problem start up rattle
What’s the similarity with the sho/mks awd eco boost? Can I do the upgraded manifolds?
I currently have 2013 Ford F150 with 215,00 Exhaust manifold problem I'm looking to get a quote to get fixed. Can you list the other parts I should have replaced at the same time? Too bad I don't live near Alabama I would bring it to you. Thank you for you videos! Rich in the Pacific Northwest
Mayson, I have p0420 and p0430. Replaced with magnaflow weld in converters and the codes are back/still there. On this ecoboost (mine is 2015) what do you usually see cause that code? My friend worked for a ford dealership going to hook to scanner to make sure 02’s are doing what they should but he said he’s never seen those codes be a 02 sensor. He said it may not like those cats.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Flying Wrenches what’s the updated manifold part numbers for l&r sides? I just looked 30 seconds ago and I indeed have a broken rear stud on the driver side.
What's your opinion on changing the cam phasers and chain wail you have the cab off this repair on a 2015
Mayson would due a video on the 2010 f150 5.4 3v pcv. How the pcv system works . Does it have a check valve? like a typical pcv system… tanks
Mayson you are quite the salesman.
You do any work with the 5.0l f150s?
Hey there, great video! I've got the dreaded coolant leak out of the driver side turbo on my 2016 Expy (122k miles). Manifolds look okay but thinking of doing those at the same time. I'm seem aftermarket manifolds out there with up to 11 studs, instead of the 9 in the revised Ford OEM manifold. (See the guys at BD Diesel). Any thoughts on that option? Thanks again!
How much horsepower can the new manifolds take? Should I go with full race manifold or BD diese or crp. I'm thinking about upgrading turbos too garret at and the and time
do you use the genuine ford studs or is there a better aftermarket stud you recommend
If you could only replace this combo or the engine valve covers, which one would take priority? Which has the greatest impact for performance and engine health?
Would you recommend replacing turbos at the same time?
I have 155k miles on it turbos aren’t causing any issue but are leaking coolant. Just wondering if you would replace or reuse?
Where are the links to buy everything you mentioned to get?
does this apply to the 16 explorers as well? 3.5 eco
I have a 2.7 EcoBoost and it sounds like a kazoo when I accelerate the stops. Turbo has been replaced but still sounds the same.
My Expedition is nearing 150,000 miles. No exhaust issues (yet) but I'm seeing a very small drip of oil once in a while. Not sure if it's the turbos or oil pan. My question is should I be proactive and do a full overhaul with timing chain, water pump, turbos and exhaust manifolds or wait till one fails?
Men i used motorcraft oil filters on my fords. Decided to cut one fl500s open and found the paper media where it meats and its glued together "others use a metal plate that holds the paper media besides the glue" and i found it apart from it other, it came undone. That was scary 😨... and at a 4500 mile interval. Dont know what to think of motorcraft oil filters any more
Yeah motorcraft filters are now junk. The 820s have such wide pleating that they tear
Does anyone know the part numbers for the cooling tubes and connectors? There are three different sized connectors and three part numbers
Not letting go of my 6.2L F150 anytime soon!
Where exactly in Alabama are you located? I have a 2011 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost that needs some work done.
Where can I find the parts list? Thank you.
Appreciate your informative videos. Just curious, if you were going to buy an F-150, what engine or model would you choose? Are there any particular years that you would not recommend? Thanks
all ford's are shit
Is the 2.7l ecoboost better than the 3.5l?
I have an f150 ecoboost. Replaces manifold and turbos. Replsced all line except the drivers coolant line that runs to the back of engine…. How do I replace the fitting in back and attach the line on back???
@flyingwrenches13 Great video. Any update on the parts list?
You said you would leave us a parts list . Been 6 months ? That's what I picked your video. Good video though I may go back and write down what you said pretty fast.
Question… where are you located in the state of Alabama? I’m in Alabama. Just drove from Huntsville to Illinois last month to visit FordTechMakuloco. He does great work. BUT, if your local/ in this state I could come to you for my next need!!! That was a long way to drive, but worth it. I can save the mileage next time. Thanks in advance.
I’m being told that I’ve had this air pump $700 and now the cable covers $1100 there saying that the rear main seal could be leaking what’s the likely hold of this at 150000 miles and the truck runs great could you show a rear main replacement this is on a 2015 f150 3.5
Mine makes a noise when I’m going faster but it don’t do it if I’m parked , does it when I’m driving around and only when I’m at a certain speed and accelerating certain amount , and if I hit it harder it goes away and does it again if I press it again sometimes
Is it possible to do this repair without lifting the body off the frame? Or are you pretty much screwed without a 4 post lift?
6:28 its optional
Videos on mks twin turbo..
Because aren't they different then f150 3.5
Just discovered your channel. 1 word = AWESOME!, Looks like you and Brian at FTML are the authorities on F150s. Fixing to do the manifold replace on a '16 with 90k miles. No broken studs but notice the whine during hard launches. I went with the BDDiesel manifolds. I am hoping no issues seen with those.
Have you done the repair yet? If so how did install with the BD manifolds go? I'm about to order from them
@@gettendeep18 Havent started yet. Plan to start next weekend hopefully. Seems life gets in the way. Luckily none of my studs are broken yet just want to be proactive.
I feel ya! I just ordered the Kit along with their turbo gasket kit with all the fittings. I just bought a 14 with 196k. It's in Great shape all around just makes that little chirp noise when I accelerate. I'm hoping myself a couple friends can get it done with a little effort! If I install before you I'll let you know how it went!
@@gettendeep18 Got the manifolds swapped Saturday. Runs so much better... I think it builds boost faster. Seems to be more responsive. Biggest plus = No more exhaust leak whistle at high boost. Note: I did have 1 broken exhaust bolt, but seems the nut was rusted to the manifold so i thought they were 100% until i touched it.
@@jeanluc71 nice! I contacted the dealer and they have it now to "diagnose" even though I'm fairly certain what the problem is. At least they provided a loner vehicle and are helping with the issue given I bought it with no warranty with higher mileage! Either way I'll get them installed soon. Glad to hear they perform good!
Anyway, Merry Christmas. Hope All Is Well.
I drove f150s for 27years now.
Refuse to by a eb.
All that junk is trouble, ford always had manifold /bolt problems because of all the junk hanging off . There were 4 converters, and now it's 4 converters plus 2 turbos.
My 5.0 has a broken manifold but easy to work on compared to this stuff.
When warranty goes get rid of this stuff. All trouble waiting to happen.
Happening to me on my 15' at 86k miles. Have a broken stud on each side. Only turbo squeak noise on passenger side. Dealer says I need both. Quoted $4700 for repair.
Would this cause a p0299 code?
Where is the parts list?
Just curious as to how long it takes to remove the cab.That might be a vid worth making as well.Just a thought.
I remember that in a previous video, he said he has the process down to roughly 45 minutes.
how bad is it to get the broken studs out
Your notes still say that parts list is coming. I need the Ford part number for that new exhaust manifold because I had mine replaced at the dealer last year and the studs are broken again. At the time the dealer rep said there was no upgrade part.
Maybe the BD Diesel replacement?
Would you happen to have the parts list?
Hey, what is your address planning driving up there from Nashville.
What is the part number for the newer updated manifold?
For the RH one it’s BL3Z-9431-D. Older part was BL3Z-9431-B
So revised from suffix B to D
Where are you located
Still working on that parts list?
Crap. I've got a Transit 250 that needs this work. No cab removal happening on that job.
So when you gone get you a tv show? 😂😂