Age of Empires IV - Skirmish vs HARDEST AI
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You should turn of wonders and sacred sites. Then the A.I. is a little bit harder to deal with. :)
I've played AOE with 8x8 island maps 2vs2 players and intermediate AI is too harder for me. AI such faster than me they send galley send their troops build anywhere just less in 10 minutes.
I played a whole lot of AoE series back in the day, but I guess I've grown out of that.
The fact I was never really good to start with may have something to do with it.
there has always been better games than the Aoe series, they're so popular yet they lack everything we want in a rts game, like everything you want ends up coming 20 years later or not at all while other developers are taking ideas off Aoe and making them 500x better
I'm suprised to see that they returned to a grid for building placement. IIRC the free placement (and maybe rotation too?) of buildings was one of the new shiny things for AOM back in the day. I think placing walls might have been annoying before that because of the grid? I have fond memories of AOE3 as well but I don't think I'd cope with the real time aspect any more.
No they didn’t
The siege equipment is able to go through the door. What happened is that you selected your workers together with the trebuchets when you were attacked at your main camp. You tried to put the workers inside, but also had the trebuchets selected. So the trebuchets were traveling to your main camp.
As someone who enjoys and plays a good amount of AoE2, it's really interesting to see how 4 plays. Definitely seems like there are a few improvements in UX, but the AI seems just as limited - lots of jittering, seems like it's still possible to cheese by walling off and leaving an open choke point for the AI to filter in through. I'll probably grab game pass to play this, especially with what I've seen of the asymmetric civs.
I think AoE4 is really promising even though old beards from AoE2 tend to whine a lot (I'm aoe2 player also). The base mechanics of the game are solid and interesting and all problems are relatively easily fixable. It boils down to whether the developer will eventually fix the various smaller issues and if they can balance it properly.
have been playing this on Game pass. Loving it. completed 2 campaigns. this has a lot of rise of Nations feel, if you've ever played Rise of Nations, also made by Microsoft. Even the Achievement names are hilarious. The Mechanisms are quite smooth and Graphics are gorgeous. This may be early but this is better than AoE2 DE.
Yes! I really want to buy AoE4 but I don't have the money right now. It looks good, and I'm liking your gameplay video so far! I watch professional Age of Empires players, so its nice to watch someone whos not a professional but is still pretty decent at the game playing (I'm not great myself lol). Great video man!
EDIT: Your commentary is so good. I haven't played this game, but I've played previous entries in the series so I know the basics and the general strategy of the game... and listening to you quickly explain small minute details or lesser known tips just out of the blue that I'm already aware of because I've played the game for over a decade makes me really happy. You know what you're talking about, the way you talk about it is entertaining and digestible, and you're good at the game. Keep it up!
You can use game pass for a month for free or just pay 10$ for the full service once it ends
@@mondaymurder23 Wow, what an amazing offer! Is there a newsletter I can subscribe to for more information about the latest Microsoft Games products and services, as well as many other amazing offers?
@@mondaymurder23 Thats a good idea, thanks!
There is something seriously wrong with this ai in this game. Specifically melee troops. This match was easier than intermediate AI I experienced on release. I play at hard level normally.
Examples: 1) 20:31 2) 24:18 3) 28:54 4) 34:48 wild boar sieging the stone wall...
AI Melee troops not even attacking like they were seriously focused on killing the towncenter / units near it.
I have not experienced anything like this in my 12 hours playing so far. The only weird thing I experienced was an AI Mongol not placing their base down on archipelago map in 3v3.
Exactly. It was easier than intermediate AI from my games.
I played vs Intermediate AI on one map (idr the name now) and in the 40min game, the AI created over 3k units, it was crazy, they never stopped attacking, never had the AI do that again, even on the same map.
Finally someone else also noticed that the intermediate AI is damn difficult to win against! Took me 10 retries from a saved point to defeat in 2 vs 2 all AI skirmish. And for some bizarre reason, our team mate A.I is far less aggressive and always need saving ! :(
hardest AI is broken. i played against 5 Hardest AI and they never attacked me once!!!!
the only thing that i encountered was their scouts... i played against 2 Hard ai and they attack countlessly...
But on hardest it seems easier. im confused.
I haven't play a good RTS since Company of Heroes and Age of empire 3. That is a long time. Even intermediate AI is kicking my butt x_x
haven't been into them for a long time but it is fun, I can tell I have slowed down a lot and is sad knowing I am getting older for these games despite being one of my old favorite genre on PC .-.
Hey, French here. Please don’t choke on your tea… Also, no croissant for you! 🥐 😂
Thanks for the Vid ;)
Dammit quil I wasn't going to buy this but now I want too. I have a wedding to pay for man!
I like how you say out loud what your unit is going to do while you commanding them. It really helps me understand what kind of hotkeys you're using. Thank you really much. Very informational video. You got yourself a like and a subcriber.
My intermediate games are harder than this. No joke I get attacked constantly at Second age.
we want the old age of empires with ancient civilizations :(
I can’t even win on 1v1 easy
I’m a noob and you have so many flaws with n your start up
AoE is like swarms of locusts fighting each other, eating all the resources in an area until its depleted and leaving devastation in their wakes
sounds like humans
@@kebab8660 so age of empires is accurate then.
They steadily but slowly send over a few guys at a time somehow taking out 5 of your guys at a time.. its damn madness 😠
Quill played AoE?!
Quick tip, earlier on you should of build a dock, fishing boats collect way more food and they auto locate the next resource spot once the current one has been depleted, this way worry less on food and focus my extra workers on building defences, it has saved my behind when i struggle to find food on land.
I found out that no matter how hard the AI is they can't do shit against early rushes in this game, 20 pikemen 15 archers 3 rams as the Abbasid and gg, just forget about the gold early game and get lots of food and wood
At least in AoE 3 there was handicap so that human player can boost gathering rate to be equal to AI. Also i prefer home shipments style of gameplay over this regular RTS strategy. It brought up something new, with this (though i like it) seems like it is step back.
archers on tower wall is a must
just too chaotic to follow
Hearing Quill pronounce Berkshire as Berk made me laugh a little.
PS I think Berkshire Palace is Windsor Castle
Not sure why this so easy at the beginning. Just playing intermidiate on landmarks only and the ai wipping my ass. I'd just made it to castle age and the ai destroyed me with an army of elephants.
Your speaking so fast. At 75% speed you sound normal 🤣🤣
7 to sheep 3 to gold and then spam to wood is the ideal start for English
Plus English are the only civ where bushes are worthless
I feel like the Age of Empires 4 has been much more challenging than the last ones. I think.
You still have to micro workers? Eesh.
And turn age into DOTA? no thanks
This is the most aggressive turtling I've seen since the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
38:46 That’s one badass boar reducing your stone tower to flames all by itself! I had a laugh when you discovered it wasn't the opponent
From this video the AI looks like it is just exactly the same as AOE2. Very limited tactics, wastes resources sending small groups of men over occasionally that have no chance of doing any serious damage and never really does a large attack. Once you have a large enough army can just send them over and win without much effort in the way of tactics. Or if you have wonders on for victory it's even easier. Honestly thought they would have improved the AI at least a little.
Small groups are viable in the beginning, since sniping villagers and disrupting production is valuable. That said, the AI does not seem to be particularly good at it, and sending small groups against fortifications or enemies you know are prepared is stupid. However, it did feel to me like the new version of AoE II made the AI, at least at harder difficulties, better at that aspect.
Something I've been doing is leaving some small squads on top on top of the walls for some extra fire power. I'm currently playing against AI on intermediate. There's still so much I'm learning about this AI, so you're my hero for playing against Max difficulty here
big daddy and pepporoni pizza that shit man
Loved watching this , in the future do more skirmish then campaign.
I had to check my settings... I thought I had it at 1.25x speed or something. You talk so fast!
AoE 3 Ottomans forever!
Wow, this game plays like it was made 15 years ago. I mean game design and game play has come a long way. I get it, its Age of Empires but they could of taken some inspiration from modern games?
Like what?
Alright kid
So skirmishes are the real game? And the "campaign" is a tutorial? Was confused
The 4 campaigns are actually pretty solid, better than I expected. Clearly skirmish and MP are the heart of this game, they could have just mailed in the campaigns or not even bothered, but instead we got decent campaigns including interesting cutscenes and some very difficult missions.
@@brianlevor6295 True but it wasn't clear to a first timer like me. I kept putting so much effort into the cities thinking the whole campaign would take place on the same map
Yea no way my INTERMEDIATE ai was impossibly harder than this idk whats different but ur def producing units faster and they're collecting resources faster and ur ai isn't bombarding u with military force that it doesn't even have the buildings or resources to produce🤠
Agreed this was my feel too, like AI is cheating, but today on hard it wasn't that bad...maybe sometimes it bugs out?
@@lgmtk The A.I. definitely cheats and I caught them. I was attacking really early against A.I. Hard, they had the Abbey of Kings as their landmark (not Council Hall) and they had no archery, yet they were defending themselves with longbowman?
@@sach695 Ye that sounds familiar. It's sad, instead of making harder AI they just code it to literally cheat...
@@lgmtk I'm now trying to beat A.I. Hardest while playing a long and defensive game and I'm really struggling.
Their economy grows so fast that I'm starting to wonder if their numbers are just fabricated.
No matter what sort of economy I have, they just have more food/wood/gold/stone than I do.
It's almost like they're capable of generating resources and soldiers out of thin air!
@@sach695 I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
My advice to you is focus on defense at first, wall up and build up eco and military.
Defend specifically where you are attacked and don't overextend.
You'll get it eventually.
I don't get why people want to play this when AoEII DE exist. This game looks like a mobile game. UI looks like it was made in 5 minutes. AI is bad. I went through Steam reviews and there ware many negative reviews that explained what's missing and what's not good in this game. I will never buy it mostly because of graphics and that they dumbed down almost everything. What a missed opportunity...
LOL it’s amazing
I miss my convertibles with rocket launchers.
Baby on a tricycle with elephant gun is funnier lol
lmao that boar thought it was in Rimworld and started tearing down stone structures. Cool to see some AoE4 on this channel.
I hate the UI visual and sound design.
Quill18 Do you want arrange challenge between me and you ?
Most people woujd beat him
I don't mean to be glib, but what was the point of remaking Age of Empires II for the third time?
50:22 In other words CHEATING! Basically a dumb AI.
Very few games make any serious effort to build smarter AI these days. In the old days, the excuse was that we just didn't have the hardware to do it unless the game was turn based AND players were willing to let the machine sit and think for a few minutes (IE: chess games). These days, it's just a better ROI to put the money and time into shiny graphics that suck up all your CPU, than making an AI that's smart enough to actually assess the larger scale strategy and not just simple tactics.
You can tell if the AI is really doing anything, other than cheating for itself, if you turn the AI from easy to hard and the CPU use jumps up. When's the last time you saw that happen?
New to your feed but its moves so fast hard to really understand whats going on.
I love how you built a ton of stone towers that don't do anything.
> be me.
> playing some AoE back in the day.
> normal difficulty chill game.
> suddenly AI goes berserk mode.
> huns AI.
> me getting stomped by a massive wave of units.
> was doing the turtle cheese by the way (bizantines with a fuckton of castles and towers behind triple walls)
> outrageous defeat... but really funny.
Even quill with 0 rts skill owns hardest ai
To be fair, he cheesed it (which most people, myself included) do against Max difficulty AI. He also had sacred site and wonder on. I'm willing to bet that fight wouldve went a little different it if was straight up landmark battle
even on the easiest setting i cant get out of the 2nd age the AI is rushing me non stop before i have the time to get my army built up. one game the AI some how sent 20 warriors with in the first 10 mintues of the game again on the easiest setting i dont get it
I experienced this too and was really surprised based on my experience with other age games (usually easiest is essential no attacks from AI, and they come very late). It's tough learning units/buildings/techs under pressure, haha
Yes, strangely in AOE2 it was very much more difficult, at least early on in the battle, against the easy AI as they would purely focus on building an army and rushing you. On harder difficulty it goes the other way, they never really send an army large enough to be much of a threat. It's very odd that they appear to not have changed the AI at all from number 2.
I see too much similarities with Company of Heroes, and thats as bad for AoE as it is good for CoH. So I think I keep playing AoE2 and wait for CoH3
Quill, low res.
Awesome newbie tutorial! Good job bro! :)
Does the AI cheat (aside from the super human micromanagement)? I had some games against hardest AI were it felt like the ai has no Populationlimit and infinite ressources....they smashed wave of wave against my fortress of doom (8 castles and lots of towers)...after an hour the map was cleared, not a single tree left and the Ai was still spamming units like crazy (not just Knights and infantry but also stacks of siegeweapons) idk were these ressources came from.....
Hi, you can easily check that by watching the replay and locking your view onto the AI. You will see the pop limit and resources that way.
@@CamfreyFR thanks mate but i got better already, 16:15 pb for hardest ai and can do it most of the time under 20 minutes. Also played some multiplayer 1280 elo ;) i was just missing a lot of game mechanics, had a wrong start build and missed possibilitys... ive watched my replays and learned from that