Considering that Kirov fired off all her missiles and most of her escorts are knocked out of action, it would make more sense to return to the Soviet Union. In the Atlantic, it would just get taken out by a carrier task force, with no way to fight back. Also, a US task force and capital ship was sunk, I'd say mission accomplished, time to head home. Really awesome engagement though, and a great showing of the P-700, didn't even need the Slava's missiles.
Kirov would be held back to defend the SSBN Bastions, Soviets didn't really have any intention of conducting commerce raiding into the Atlantic, not with their best surface ships.
Overall, I don't think one would realistically see Kirov operating far beyond Soviet or Soviet-held territory, without air cover and somewhere to retreat to fairly quickly. As great as this engagement went, Kirov was left spent and poorly escorted, its position known to a surely vengeful enemy. Not only is her ill-considered mission thoroughly compromised, so is her ability to return to a friendly port. If not caught by a carrier task force, by submarine or air attacks coming from as far east as Britain. Sure, you've dealt a significant blow to the Americans, but nowhere near war-winning. And she's done, so far out in the Atlantic. Critical resource spent. This scenario had to ignore a whole bunch of context and have NATO make very questionable decisions (i.e. try to engage Kirov's group with an old-fashioned Iowa SAG as opposed to a carrier TF) for it to play out the way it did. But this is mostly a demonstration, and a fairly plausible one, at that. It's not a walk in the park, NATO still fights hard, and there's a lot of tension. Definitely engaging.
@@forcea1454 As far as I know, Kirovs were designed to be raiders, however not against transport and even not against carrier task forces, but against NATO SSBN. And during development it turned out, it's has both massive SAM and ASM arsenal to be a core ship of soviet task force.
I’ll repost my original comment. Thank you for actually playing this game correctly, so much more enjoyable to watch than others who don’t know how to ask for identification or use radar the entire time etc. please keep these sea power videos coming
Was wolfpack actually running his radar the entire time tho? Wasn't he spending most of the time those E-6s were flying overhead with his air search radar off as if he could stay undetected by them?
Wanted to say before reupload: Kirov, in all cases, would be supported by Tu-95RTs (Ту-95РЦ), maritime reconnaissance and targeting aircraft, because missiles greatly outrange sensors of the ship. The plane is in the game, saw it in Enigma's unit review. In real life there also was (and maybe even is rn, but new) satellite system made specially for navy to help find and target US carrier strike groups, but I doubt we'll ever get it in game (maybe as a mod, I hope) Amazing video anyway! I'll watch it again rn. Can't get enough of Sea Power, and your videos really are the best out there
After years of reading about Granat missile swarms it was good to see them doing it. I was wondering how they would target the missiles and I thought that maybe they would fire them with out accurate range to target. As long as they fly them down the bearing of an identified contact they could let the missiles find the range. Assuming target was within max range. The Tu-95RT makes much more sense though.
@JustJohn505 it would be amazing, I hope we will have control of more than one group, not the entire fleet, but maybe at least land based aviation for recon and ASW Or maybe we will be able to create a group from available ships in a port, according to the task? But this game is already 11/10 for me, just how it is right now, lol
Given that Kirov just fired all of his missiles (fortunately at a conveniently-placed enemy capital ship), I'd say the sensible course of action would be to turn around and go home. What's he supposed to do in the Atlantic with no missiles?
@@Petidani0330 Considering pretty much everyone still to this day struggles with underway replenishment of missiles, and the fact that I don't think the soviets ever had a ship to do this with, I'd highly doubt it. Theoretically doable tho.
I suppose they could possibly sneak some reloads out on a converted and sufficiently disguised cargo vessel, but Granits are probably too big to allow reloading at sea (if Soviet ships are even designed for that, which I rather suspect they weren't and aren't). It might work with smaller missiles though.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul They could. I mean they are large enough to carry enough electronics of this time for that purpose, especially since RTOS for them isn't too hard to implement. Moreover, Granits even have their own ecm station! Their problem is not their capabilities, it's their size, because it's limiting size of ships able to carry them significantly. Tho we don't know it it really would be that effective, direct confrontation have never happened. I would say, it's sad, but no, WW3 is not a fun event.... Still in all naval wargames I played, Kirov and Shipwrecks, well, wrecked, until they had ammo and support ships
They used to mark themselves in red color in their maps; so Red forces should retain red color in tactical view regardless of what side the player is on.
They've already said you can change any of the map marker colors using RGB values. The game is going to be very modable through .ini files and text editing.
Hey Wolf, great video! It's always interesting to watch how all these different Cold War ships and weapon systems interact, and Sea Power looks like a bright light in the future of naval sims. With regard to the P700, its delivery systems like the Kirov, and sinking enemy battlegroups, you *need* saturation strikes to push a missile attack through layered enemy defenses, and the best way to achieve that is through mass. You have 20 P700s onboard Kirov, use all of them. If you're attacking an enemy formation that justifies the use of a complex system like the P700, then that automatically justifies expending your entire payload in one go. That's what this missile system is designed to do, it's a fleet-hunting swarm, and the more missiles you commit to the strike, the more wolves you have on the prowl. In committing a portion of your available rounds to an attack instead of the entire set, you not only lose out on mass that you already have sitting around waiting for ships to kill, but you weaken your initial strike on target, and you *also* weaken your follow-up strike on your remaining rounds because you now only have a handful of shots left. You've essentially condemned yourself to a pair of small-mass strikes on a target that requires a large-mass strike to eliminate, and if the enemy eats up your first strike because of its smaller size, you can be for darn sure they're going to eat up the follow-up as well. When it comes to saturation missile strikes and mass, never be afraid to over-kill an enemy fleet. You should be terrified of under-killing it. Rationing ammunition on your ships is never a bad thing, but that's only a rule of thumb, not a hard guideline. As I stated above, P700 is designed to be used en-masse, as a swarm. Think of it as one big missile. Save it for something big and valuable, but when you find something worth using it on, use all of it.
This video felt like a whole war movie honestly. From the suspenseful buildup with planes popping in and out of view, initial skirmishes and moments of tension as the soviets take the first hits, to the climax of finding Iowa and the cinematic views of swarms of granits diving in. Incredible work man
@@egoalter1276there is about a 0% chance they operate as effectively as claimed in real engagements. No Soviet weapon ever did. Other Soviet AS missiles had a pretty poor track record.
@@mandoreforger6999 The only combat use of soviet AShMs I know of was Silkworms by Iran, there they worked as advertised, got defeated by chaff. There were a few launch failiurs in excercises from the past two decades, but the state of the russian fleet is not indicative of the soviet one. They were also cash strapped, but they would rather keep half the fleet in drydock for a decade than operate nonfunctional ships.
the most important thing about SSN-22 Sunburn was the speed, they are Supersonic SEA SKIMMERS, if you can ditch the AEW aircraft , and sneak a few Sovremenny's in close enough to launch, those missiles are absolutely amongst the most deadly Anti-Ship missiles ever made because the defending ships will only get one shot at stopping them, they are simply too fast to reliably counter
what I would love to see is creators like you sharing missions with other creators to challenge them. Maybe do a mission exchange with Stealth17 or so? That would mitigate the effect of you knowing what will happen because you made the mission. Also, glad to see the voice intros back for sea power, the text only ones weren't quite my jam.
Kirov did a lot of damage, and the mission is a success, however there was no point continuing to the Atlantic. Rockets were spent, escort destroyed, so IRL just return to Sankt Petersburg to (hopefully) rearm and get new escort, and there would be plenty of US task forces in the Atlantic, not to mention land based aircrafts, definetly from the UK and Iceland, and depending on this conflict configuration also France, Netherlands ect.
In game the missile hit right behind slava's missile where in irl it hit it in the missile which cause a chain reaction which blowed up all the missiles causing it to sink
@@mathijeba5375 That is not an accurate description of her sinking. You make it sound like she exploded when in fact it was the fact they couldn't put out the fire from the missile fuel and it died slowly rather than in a catastrophic chain explosion.
@@mathijeba5375 just to expand on the great answer you already got, using radar is like using a flashlight. you'll probably find who you are looking for, but they will definitely know you are out there.
LOL Those Granites coming in is intense. Have to love these games. Never want to see these AMAZING MACHINES have to used for real. Cool to see what they are capable of in the virtual world. Cant wait for this one to come out. Thanks for the vid.
@Wolfpack345 I love your tone. You're the only gaming channel I watch. I vicariously "play" these simulation games by just watching you. Your tone is great. It's narrative and not too over-the-top. Most gaming channel creators overdo their reactions and shout in fake excitement over the smallest little things that happen in game, and edit their content with zooms, overlays, and immature sound effects. I appreciate your mature tonal balance, and I wish you the best as your channel grows. Don't forget what makes you great! Thanks for making the great videos and good luck on the next ones.
Yay, Wolfpack! It’s funnier having a few Sea Power vids from someone who has a clue what he’s doing, unlike one or two other TH-camrs who seem to be just spamming ”uuuuh I dunno what happened? How come XYZ isn’t working?” vids ❤ Must say that I’d hope the EA-6s would be smarter and better at keeping out of range. A plane with such valuable sensors and specialised crew should realistically be near impossible to chase down.
An idea I haven't seen anyone suggest yet is using a mission editor to set up a "Civil War" scenario where say, American ships and planes fight themselves or the Russians fight themselves.
Damn Kirov here is a beast! And what an absolutely beautiful ship, hope to see her IRL one day, preferably without volleys or Granits being fired at me
@@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer Kirov probably will see another decades of service.. If I recall correctly there is a package of extensive modernization programs allocated for her.. One of the main agendas is replacing her Granit SSM with either Khinzal or other hypersonic missiles.. To act as an anti ship or/and cruise missiles..
I know its not as simple as saying "why doesn't Wolfpack have 1mil subscribers yet?!", because his field of expertise/chosen gaming genre is a very niche + not so widely pushed type of content/media, but boy howdy does he deserve AT LEAST a million subs! The consistent upload of simply exceptional content this man puts out is a hundred times better/more than so many other creators (not throwing any shade on anyone else whatsoever) and he has been at it for so many years too. Unwavering quality, solid length videos, an insanely vast array of games and sub-genres, unmatched cinematics, epic storytelling and riveting intro hooks.. I could literally go on for hours about how Wolfpack has honed his craft to utter perfection.. but ill stop raving here and continue enjoying yet another banger video whilst silently hoping/wishing for the algorithm gods to roll in his favor sometime soon!
Again, cool animations, and I liked how the AI seemed to more intelligently skirt your AD envelope while maintaining contact with the A-6. What doesn't make sense is the A-6s and B-52s making seemingly suicidal attacks at high alt like it's 1942 with their advanced OTH sea skimming cruise missiles. The AI needs more work still. Also, if they are going to make those kinds of attacks, let's see them employ something like AGM-123 which is going to leave any large surface combatant having a bad day.
"let's see them employ something like AGM-123 which is going to leave any large surface combatant having a bad day." I doubt they would be that good. there performance was very poor in IRL 8 Nm at best..and then you would be i every SAM engagement zone
I must say, the sequence from 13:55 to 14:10 is just absolutely stunning. The Harpoon skimming the surface, the sillouete of the ships at the horizon, the puffs of the CIWS, the smoke pillars formed by the trails of the SAM missiles, and the water splashes of the artillery bracketing the Harpoon. I'm so glad this game allows you to follow the missiles like it does.
From the vid showing all the assets, a lot of the loads are really weird. F-4s with max loads of 500lb bombs, A-6s with mixed harpoon and cluster bombs, and yeah that B-52 with mixed Harpoon and iron bombs. Hopefully its fixed eventually, it is early access.
it was an excellent video to watch i just wanted to come back on something to say something that might be obvious but i think fair to say. the ranges of missiles are optimal range if the missile can go straight to what he wants. if the planes or what it's targeting start to do evasive manouvers forcing the missile to turn the range will decrease. will depend on how much it's evasive so it can be lightly reduce or heavily
@Wolfpack345 it's been said before but I'll say it again, you offer the best Sea Power coverage by far. I'm very happy and grateful for another video after what feels like ages heheh.
I must say when it began getting chaotic, I genuinely felt like I was onboard defending the ship with my life. Love the videos, the only thing I ask for is for you to give us more information on the missiles and ships themselves because I feel like I'm learning more and more about naval combat. Great video
I think a challenge for those of us coming to Cold War era games like this is to remember how missile-to-radar technology worked back then. We are used to playing Command or other hi-tech games set in the post-1995 world of semi-active radar homing missiles, like the AMRAAM or Patriot. But in the Cold War, most missiles (SAMs and AAMs) needed active homing radar from the firing platform to guide them all the way home. This was true for basically all Russian missiles, but also NATO missiles like the Phoenix, Sparrow, etc., unless it was an infrared missile fired at short range (Stinger or Sidewinder).
It was true until the mid 70s. AIM64 phoenix, and for the issr R30 and R33 were self guiding, and S300 had composite guidance from the start, and S200 got self guiding missiles eventually. While NATO mostly ignored GBAD, and assumed air supermacy in their doctrinal planning, the soviets always knew they would be on the backfoot in the air, and sunk consudersvle resources and planning into SAM development. Part of this was the experience in Vietnam with S75M, and concluded that the best way of countering SEAD was minimizing the time radar directors irradiate, and displacing them physically from the TELAR units. To this end both s200 and 300 were mounted on sepf propelled trailers with a bominal 5 minute deployment time, and the missile batteries only had tight beam director radars rendering them invisible to elint apart from the tadget the, were painting, with the air search radar only at regiment level.
Greetings from Canada, Wolfpack 345! Just wanted to tell you how much I am enjoying your Sea Power gameplay videos! In fact recently I find myself spending more free time watching your Sea Power videos than watching Netflix movies! Tribute to just how good your playthroughs and accompanying commentary are, sir! OMG this game looks amazing! *New Sub*
American here, but as a kid I had my dad's Jane's Pocket Guide to Warships that I used to look at all the time. I remember thinking that all the Russian warships looked totally badass, just bristling with guns, missiles, everything. Every western Naval ship looked so tame and unassuming, while the Russian ships looked the part of being built for war.
Might be worthwhile to have your destroyers on the western side of the formation with the turn to the north to avoid your cruiser from taking so many AShM's
Should also have put the Udaloy on weapons free. He spent most of this scenario with the unit with the best point defence missile systems in the entire fleet on weapons-tight. Also should have increased the number of escorts, the Soviets would not have sent a fleet of mostly surface oriented ships into submarine infested waters with only a single BPK to escort them.
Your formation need to be tighter. With your smaller ships screening for Kirov, she can use her inventory to support the screen. Additionally, tighter formations will make CWIS and guns more effective.
I love your channel and coverage of sea power. From a realistic perspective once the decision was made to engage those A6s I’d say the military’s philosophy on expect worse case scenario would apply. I would assume there are missiles in the air (activate air search radars), then (assuming the decision to engage is necessary) assure the a6s shoot down, assume there are subs repositioning or torps in the water (deploy sonar buoys), assume there are surface contacts repositioning (plan counter offensive/defense for long range ASM launch), and continue with mission goal under fire assessing as new actions arise (probably aircraft from land base). 15:52
Yep. People were mistaking the Moskva (first ship of the Moskva class) hellicopter cruiser of a previous video, believing it to be the Slava guided missile cruiser, _this_ Slava (first ship of the Slava class, renamed Moskva after Moskva was retired, then sunk in 2022). OF COURSE she survived this battle; she had a date with some drones that she couldn't miss.
Yeah, there's like 2 Slava class cruisers left (used to be 3 with Moskva) and one of them is the Varyag, also I think there may be one Kirov class left but undergoing repairs as the nuclear reactor shielding was failing endangering the crew, not sure which ship of the line it was though.
@@Spendingryan4 Kirov-class Battlecruisers were build : Kirov - Admiral Ushakov after 1992 Frunze - Admiral Lazarev after 1992 Kalinin - Admiral Nakhimov after 1992 Pyotr Velikiy - completed in 1998 First 3 were in reserve from 90-s, and the 4th is still active In 2015 Russia decided to repair and modernize third ship, Admiral Nakhimov, she is right now at the final stages of it, and is planned to return into serice in 2025 The one with failing reactor is Kirov herself, now Admiral Ushakov. In 2016 she was sent to scrapping The last one Admiral Lazarev, was sent to srapping in 2019 Probably Pyotr Velikiy will get the same modernazation as Admiral Nakhimov
You can't let 2 prowlers lurking around your group like this (at start)... must be priority number one, they send continuous info about your group... you need to ensure the kill with multiple AA missiles on each one, asap. They are like the eye of Sauron above you ! Information is (and always was) the key at war, don't let them gathering all info about you. Modern warfare is, more than ever, a cat and mouse game. Be the cat and not the mouse. Using EMCOM and shooting ennemy planes as soon as possible is the first priority. You need to preserve your "fog of war" for the ennemy. I suppose you could send missile on external radar info on this game.
@@josephmagana6235 EMCON : emission control, not weapon control. Did you ever ear about datalink ? Anyway, only one surface radar should be used, the one for the best SAM system (longer range) if there is no datalink. Switching on surface radar ONLY when targets, spotted by helo's radars, enter the range of the sam, and not before. Open radar and immediate fire, with multiple missiles on each target to ensure fast kill, as soon as the target enter the sam range. Then ensure complete destuction of the aerial patrol, not allowing the planes to evaluate visually the situation to report and call for a naval strike, as they did. The goal is to be the first one to deliver the SS salvo, not the one to receive it. You are supposed to be NOT ID as long as you have not fired the first SS attack. That's also why helo reco is very important : to be the first to engage and not to be engaged at first. Plotting a buoy pattern for one or (better cause faster) 2 helo, and an helo to pop up (3000ft is enought, then back to 20ft) sometimes (just short pictures, not "radar on" all the way !) to get a radar picture, while advancing toward the ennemy. THIS helo will tell you when to open the sam radar because he will tell you when ennemy planes are in range of the sam, very important helo, here also, better 2 then one (but at different places), because it is exposed. That's how I would have managed the start of this mission, to try to be the first to attack.
@@bigpoppa1234 he was a radar contact for ennemy AI, but as long as he doesn't open any radar on the fleet, he can't be ID as ennemy except from visual ID. And that's what AI are supposed to do : if it can't ID your radar tag, it send an asset to ID you. But as long as it didn't ID you, he won't engage you. that's all the point to destroy the prowler before visual range, with EMCON status.
@@cladecq Yes, but the moment that prowler is illuminated he knows now that unknown radar contact is a hostile cruiser group. Realistically there just wasn't a way soviet surface combatants could avoid being detected first in this kind of scenario. They needed some kind of air cover.
i used to do these types of engagements in Lock On: Modern Air Combat way back in early 2000s. The predecessor to DCS. I even used the Kuznetsov as a flagship in some scenarios. The Kuznetsov is quite capable by herself even xD
Kirov vs Iowa, absolutely epic! Also I must say, your choice of music is (as usual) damn good. Especially when the first Granit salvo was launched, that was better than any movie.
Amazing !! Wolf you really know how to make nail biter videos . Please keep using your talent and knowledge to keep us entertained ! I'm not really a fanboy type of guy but your vids totally rock . Thank You Sir
@@BeKindToBirds I know. But in game it's fully operational and freshly built, and IRL it was a rotting piece of metal with most of it's systems not working.
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS GAME, you got me into War on the Sea, now I’ve put 500 hours into that game. You got me into Silent Hunter, 200 hours. Cold waters? 300 hours. now this game? It’s gonna be a lot
I think a Tu-142 or a recon Tu-95 would be around to provide top cover. Those planes are part of the navy so they would likely be sent to spot for Kirov on rotation.
@@josephwhiskeybeale By who? The only air power in the area were F-15 out of Iceland so Sparrow is the longest range weapon. No one is intercepting them on route either. And that recon Tu-95 is flying in the stratosphere above two S-300 batteries.
Just a tip, you should be able to fire on targets that are outside of range as long as the intercept point is in range... So if the plane is heading right towards you, you can shoot when it's outside the max range as by the time the missile gets to the target the target will then be within the circle and should hit... This should help with engaging targets sooner that come within weapons range.
They have separate targeting radar (it looks like a muffin, lmao) search radar detects the target and tells the targeting radar where to look to lock it, if you already know where the target is, you don't need a search radar
Basically, almost all non IR homing SAMs, tbh, except new active radar homing ones like S-350 or Patriot PAC-3, but they still have both search and targeting radar
@ser43_OLDC I meant that the ship has a separate targeting radar for S-300 (and another two, one for each Osa), not the missiles themselves Also, Osa and Tor are ONLY radio command guided, even much more modern Pantsir-S1 still is only command guided, it keeps missiles light, makes them faster and more maneuverable which is really important for SHORAD
Now we need to make a video about a similar strike by two nuclear submarines of the 949A type. These are carriers of exactly the same P-700 Granit weapon. Launch from the submarine and the destruction of a large aircraft group with a salvo from two directions simultaneously.
Great video - thank you! Beautiful graphics in this game! Cool to see this epic cold war showdown. I have to admit a pain in my heart when I saw the Iowa take three missiles and sink.
@@egoalter1276good news, you sank the Iowa, which is of questionable usefulness anyway. Bad news: you didn’t even find the carrier strike force, and it has already found you as evidenced by the Hawkeye and prawler keeping an eye on you. And they have more AShMs than you have interceptors.
Yes!! Finally someone said. And I know this because it also happened with the old kirov model in Cold Waters. Afterall, some devs for SP are formerly from Killerfish Games when working on Cold Waters.
Hey just wanted to mention that the A6 is called the "Intruder". I only know that because my dad used to build them for the Navy. Love your channel! Keep publishing your interesting (addicting) content.😊
So the Harpoon is scary because when it hits it is design to cause fires. So geotting hit by multiple Harpoons not only causes damage from the missle exploding but from the fires that they are designed to cause.
When this came to the channel, I wasn't overly interested, but, as usual, your storytelling and game play has won me over. Eagerly await the next video!
Whoever drove that A-6E that dropped the cluster bomb on the destroyer is a certified Chad. lmfao
That felt clever to use the missiles as a screen to move in
GigaChad
they did that on an Iran ship tho it wasn't a destroyer just a costal patrol ship
@@sqike001tonpretty sure that the cluster was dropped right down the ship’s exhaust stack too
Considering that Kirov fired off all her missiles and most of her escorts are knocked out of action, it would make more sense to return to the Soviet Union. In the Atlantic, it would just get taken out by a carrier task force, with no way to fight back. Also, a US task force and capital ship was sunk, I'd say mission accomplished, time to head home. Really awesome engagement though, and a great showing of the P-700, didn't even need the Slava's missiles.
Kirov would be held back to defend the SSBN Bastions, Soviets didn't really have any intention of conducting commerce raiding into the Atlantic, not with their best surface ships.
Overall, I don't think one would realistically see Kirov operating far beyond Soviet or Soviet-held territory, without air cover and somewhere to retreat to fairly quickly. As great as this engagement went, Kirov was left spent and poorly escorted, its position known to a surely vengeful enemy. Not only is her ill-considered mission thoroughly compromised, so is her ability to return to a friendly port. If not caught by a carrier task force, by submarine or air attacks coming from as far east as Britain. Sure, you've dealt a significant blow to the Americans, but nowhere near war-winning. And she's done, so far out in the Atlantic. Critical resource spent.
This scenario had to ignore a whole bunch of context and have NATO make very questionable decisions (i.e. try to engage Kirov's group with an old-fashioned Iowa SAG as opposed to a carrier TF) for it to play out the way it did. But this is mostly a demonstration, and a fairly plausible one, at that. It's not a walk in the park, NATO still fights hard, and there's a lot of tension. Definitely engaging.
@@forcea1454 As far as I know, Kirovs were designed to be raiders, however not against transport and even not against carrier task forces, but against NATO SSBN. And during development it turned out, it's has both massive SAM and ASM arsenal to be a core ship of soviet task force.
I’ll repost my original comment. Thank you for actually playing this game correctly, so much more enjoyable to watch than others who don’t know how to ask for identification or use radar the entire time etc. please keep these sea power videos coming
I think Stealth17 is definitely learning, but it helps to have a background of knowledge to draw on definitely can see that in Wolfpack videos.
Can't agree with you more
Was wolfpack actually running his radar the entire time tho? Wasn't he spending most of the time those E-6s were flying overhead with his air search radar off as if he could stay undetected by them?
@@Paveway-chanHe wasn’t, that’s what OP is trying to say, but it was worded a little off
@cmdrpanorpa8631 crazy how he didnt name drop its stealth assumed
I've been WAITING for a new Sea Power video since the last one, I CANNOT wait for this game to launch next month.
It is coming up!
yes you can
Gotta give those trawlers a salute..
Sailing unfazed around some very intense NATO vs Soviet Navy exchanges..
The tuna must flow
Tame the atlantic, Ross Tiger. Free the tuna. I’ll make you emperor.
@@TomCougerFr
Wanted to say before reupload:
Kirov, in all cases, would be supported by Tu-95RTs (Ту-95РЦ), maritime reconnaissance and targeting aircraft, because missiles greatly outrange sensors of the ship. The plane is in the game, saw it in Enigma's unit review.
In real life there also was (and maybe even is rn, but new) satellite system made specially for navy to help find and target US carrier strike groups, but I doubt we'll ever get it in game (maybe as a mod, I hope)
Amazing video anyway! I'll watch it again rn. Can't get enough of Sea Power, and your videos really are the best out there
We don't have alot of info on the campaign yet, maybe there will be satellites flying by just like in cold waters campaign map
After years of reading about Granat missile swarms it was good to see them doing it. I was wondering how they would target the missiles and I thought that maybe they would fire them with out accurate range to target. As long as they fly them down the bearing of an identified contact they could let the missiles find the range. Assuming target was within max range. The Tu-95RT makes much more sense though.
@JustJohn505 it would be amazing, I hope we will have control of more than one group, not the entire fleet, but maybe at least land based aviation for recon and ASW
Or maybe we will be able to create a group from available ships in a port, according to the task?
But this game is already 11/10 for me, just how it is right now, lol
Also in real live the Air defense wont work and the crew probably sold half the fuel for some extra cash.
@@rawnuklesThey could also use A50 Mainstay and TU126 Moss AEW planes.
I could have sworn I was hallucinating that I saw this video earlier lol
Haha
Same I took a nap and 😂thought I was dreaming then I went to look the video up and it was gone..
I was thinking I Dreamt it this morning.
Same hahahahahaha
I though: When the f did i post a comment under this video?
Reuploaded due to editing errors. Sorry about that
Happens to the best of us, no shame and a reasonable response.
Loved the video, awesome how they've modelled the Kirov and its weapons.
Oh yeah, I honestly didn't think too much of it.
I don't blame you Wolfy...
Just have fun
no worries, although I was halfway through when you took it down... oops...
No worries, definitely excited to see the video tomorrow asap!
Given that Kirov just fired all of his missiles (fortunately at a conveniently-placed enemy capital ship), I'd say the sensible course of action would be to turn around and go home. What's he supposed to do in the Atlantic with no missiles?
Maybe the Soviets can resupply it at sea? Not sure if it could be done with those huge missiles though.
It could possibly try to make for cuba for ressuply there
@@Petidani0330 Considering pretty much everyone still to this day struggles with underway replenishment of missiles, and the fact that I don't think the soviets ever had a ship to do this with, I'd highly doubt it. Theoretically doable tho.
I suppose they could possibly sneak some reloads out on a converted and sufficiently disguised cargo vessel, but Granits are probably too big to allow reloading at sea (if Soviet ships are even designed for that, which I rather suspect they weren't and aren't). It might work with smaller missiles though.
@@TheThingInMySink Thanks for the info!
The coordinated flying of the Granits was pretty awesome indeed!
Really makes one wonder if they could perform so IRL or is just like the s300 which is formidable bit sometimes not so much
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul They could. I mean they are large enough to carry enough electronics of this time for that purpose, especially since RTOS for them isn't too hard to implement. Moreover, Granits even have their own ecm station! Their problem is not their capabilities, it's their size, because it's limiting size of ships able to carry them significantly. Tho we don't know it it really would be that effective, direct confrontation have never happened. I would say, it's sad, but no, WW3 is not a fun event....
Still in all naval wargames I played, Kirov and Shipwrecks, well, wrecked, until they had ammo and support ships
They used to mark themselves in red color in their maps; so Red forces should retain red color in tactical view regardless of what side the player is on.
This tbh, as Opfor main blue color as ally is a bit off putting for me
@@ZX12 I wonder, is there a wish-list or other feedback for the devs?
@@Max-xl9qvThey are pretty active on the Microprose discord
@@Max-xl9qv maybe there's something on Microprose discord server idk
They've already said you can change any of the map marker colors using RGB values. The game is going to be very modable through .ini files and text editing.
Hey Wolf, great video! It's always interesting to watch how all these different Cold War ships and weapon systems interact, and Sea Power looks like a bright light in the future of naval sims.
With regard to the P700, its delivery systems like the Kirov, and sinking enemy battlegroups, you *need* saturation strikes to push a missile attack through layered enemy defenses, and the best way to achieve that is through mass. You have 20 P700s onboard Kirov, use all of them. If you're attacking an enemy formation that justifies the use of a complex system like the P700, then that automatically justifies expending your entire payload in one go. That's what this missile system is designed to do, it's a fleet-hunting swarm, and the more missiles you commit to the strike, the more wolves you have on the prowl.
In committing a portion of your available rounds to an attack instead of the entire set, you not only lose out on mass that you already have sitting around waiting for ships to kill, but you weaken your initial strike on target, and you *also* weaken your follow-up strike on your remaining rounds because you now only have a handful of shots left. You've essentially condemned yourself to a pair of small-mass strikes on a target that requires a large-mass strike to eliminate, and if the enemy eats up your first strike because of its smaller size, you can be for darn sure they're going to eat up the follow-up as well.
When it comes to saturation missile strikes and mass, never be afraid to over-kill an enemy fleet. You should be terrified of under-killing it.
Rationing ammunition on your ships is never a bad thing, but that's only a rule of thumb, not a hard guideline. As I stated above, P700 is designed to be used en-masse, as a swarm. Think of it as one big missile. Save it for something big and valuable, but when you find something worth using it on, use all of it.
This video felt like a whole war movie honestly. From the suspenseful buildup with planes popping in and out of view, initial skirmishes and moments of tension as the soviets take the first hits, to the climax of finding Iowa and the cinematic views of swarms of granits diving in. Incredible work man
SKIRMISH 😂😂😂
Oh my God the moment where the missiles all fly into formation so that they can strike at once. I want this game so bad
Granits are works of art honestly. Especially considering the state of soviet electeonocs developlent.
@@egoalter1276there is about a 0% chance they operate as effectively as claimed in real engagements. No Soviet weapon ever did. Other Soviet AS missiles had a pretty poor track record.
@@mandoreforger6999 The only combat use of soviet AShMs I know of was Silkworms by Iran, there they worked as advertised, got defeated by chaff. There were a few launch failiurs in excercises from the past two decades, but the state of the russian fleet is not indicative of the soviet one. They were also cash strapped, but they would rather keep half the fleet in drydock for a decade than operate nonfunctional ships.
the most important thing about SSN-22 Sunburn was the speed, they are Supersonic SEA SKIMMERS, if you can ditch the AEW aircraft , and sneak a few Sovremenny's in close enough to launch, those missiles are absolutely amongst the most deadly Anti-Ship missiles ever made because the defending ships will only get one shot at stopping them, they are simply too fast to reliably counter
what I would love to see is creators like you sharing missions with other creators to challenge them. Maybe do a mission exchange with Stealth17 or so? That would mitigate the effect of you knowing what will happen because you made the mission. Also, glad to see the voice intros back for sea power, the text only ones weren't quite my jam.
That is such a good idea, would also boost views for all the participating channels I assume.
this. so much this. exactly this right here
yeah, this is definitely the way to go about it.
comment for vis
Kirov did a lot of damage, and the mission is a success, however there was no point continuing to the Atlantic. Rockets were spent, escort destroyed, so IRL just return to Sankt Petersburg to (hopefully) rearm and get new escort, and there would be plenty of US task forces in the Atlantic, not to mention land based aircrafts, definetly from the UK and Iceland, and depending on this conflict configuration also France, Netherlands ect.
Slava ironically survived what killed her in real life
In game the missile hit right behind slava's missile where in irl it hit it in the missile which cause a chain reaction which blowed up all the missiles causing it to sink
@@mathijeba5375 That is not an accurate description of her sinking. You make it sound like she exploded when in fact it was the fact they couldn't put out the fire from the missile fuel and it died slowly rather than in a catastrophic chain explosion.
Love all of the Red Storm Rising style content. This book terrified me as a teenager.
The graphics and attention to detail in this sim is beautiful
"I had no idea these were launched"
That's what EMCON does bruh.
What's EMCON?
Emissions control, i.e. being judicious with when you use your active sensors to avoid giving away your location
@@dsdy1205 thanks ;)
@@mathijeba5375 just to expand on the great answer you already got, using radar is like using a flashlight. you'll probably find who you are looking for, but they will definitely know you are out there.
LOL Those Granites coming in is intense. Have to love these games. Never want to see these AMAZING MACHINES have to used for real. Cool to see what they are capable of in the virtual world. Cant wait for this one to come out. Thanks for the vid.
I like learning different types of ships and subs from your videos 🙂🙂 it’s awesome!
Glad you like them!
Someone else posted a video of all the units in the game, including state of the art MiG-28 fighters
@@artemisfowl7191 MiG-28s don't exist.
@Wolfpack345 I love your tone. You're the only gaming channel I watch. I vicariously "play" these simulation games by just watching you. Your tone is great. It's narrative and not too over-the-top. Most gaming channel creators overdo their reactions and shout in fake excitement over the smallest little things that happen in game, and edit their content with zooms, overlays, and immature sound effects. I appreciate your mature tonal balance, and I wish you the best as your channel grows. Don't forget what makes you great! Thanks for making the great videos and good luck on the next ones.
I like how wolfpack uploaded this after my exam ended lol.
Amazing timing
Those Granit/Shipwrecks are freaking scary.
Yay, Wolfpack! It’s funnier having a few Sea Power vids from someone who has a clue what he’s doing, unlike one or two other TH-camrs who seem to be just spamming ”uuuuh I dunno what happened? How come XYZ isn’t working?” vids ❤
Must say that I’d hope the EA-6s would be smarter and better at keeping out of range. A plane with such valuable sensors and specialised crew should realistically be near impossible to chase down.
An idea I haven't seen anyone suggest yet is using a mission editor to set up a "Civil War" scenario where say, American ships and planes fight themselves or the Russians fight themselves.
rip to those who tried to watch the OG vid
Sorry gamers :(
just to the part where the B52s were on radar!
@@bravobravo7901 ssshhhhhh.... the Los Angeles can hear you!
Slava: *eats several anti ship missiles*
captain: this is one hell of a smoking-related accident
Damn Kirov here is a beast! And what an absolutely beautiful ship, hope to see her IRL one day, preferably without volleys or Granits being fired at me
@@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer Kirov probably will see another decades of service..
If I recall correctly there is a package of extensive modernization programs allocated for her..
One of the main agendas is replacing her Granit SSM with either Khinzal or other hypersonic missiles..
To act as an anti ship or/and cruise missiles..
I know its not as simple as saying "why doesn't Wolfpack have 1mil subscribers yet?!", because his field of expertise/chosen gaming genre is a very niche + not so widely pushed type of content/media, but boy howdy does he deserve AT LEAST a million subs!
The consistent upload of simply exceptional content this man puts out is a hundred times better/more than so many other creators (not throwing any shade on anyone else whatsoever) and he has been at it for so many years too. Unwavering quality, solid length videos, an insanely vast array of games and sub-genres, unmatched cinematics, epic storytelling and riveting intro hooks.. I could literally go on for hours about how Wolfpack has honed his craft to utter perfection.. but ill stop raving here and continue enjoying yet another banger video whilst silently hoping/wishing for the algorithm gods to roll in his favor sometime soon!
agreed
Again, cool animations, and I liked how the AI seemed to more intelligently skirt your AD envelope while maintaining contact with the A-6. What doesn't make sense is the A-6s and B-52s making seemingly suicidal attacks at high alt like it's 1942 with their advanced OTH sea skimming cruise missiles. The AI needs more work still. Also, if they are going to make those kinds of attacks, let's see them employ something like AGM-123 which is going to leave any large surface combatant having a bad day.
"let's see them employ something like AGM-123 which is going to leave any large surface combatant having a bad day."
I doubt they would be that good. there performance was very poor in IRL 8 Nm at best..and then you would be i every SAM engagement zone
I must say, the sequence from 13:55 to 14:10 is just absolutely stunning. The Harpoon skimming the surface, the sillouete of the ships at the horizon, the puffs of the CIWS, the smoke pillars formed by the trails of the SAM missiles, and the water splashes of the artillery bracketing the Harpoon. I'm so glad this game allows you to follow the missiles like it does.
Great video, must say, do not think America would throw away B52s in a freefall bomb attack like that.
Sounds like a hell of a suicide mission.
From the vid showing all the assets, a lot of the loads are really weird. F-4s with max loads of 500lb bombs, A-6s with mixed harpoon and cluster bombs, and yeah that B-52 with mixed Harpoon and iron bombs.
Hopefully its fixed eventually, it is early access.
it was an excellent video to watch
i just wanted to come back on something to say something that might be obvious but i think fair to say. the ranges of missiles are optimal range if the missile can go straight to what he wants. if the planes or what it's targeting start to do evasive manouvers forcing the missile to turn the range will decrease. will depend on how much it's evasive so it can be lightly reduce or heavily
@Wolfpack345 it's been said before but I'll say it again, you offer the best Sea Power coverage by far. I'm very happy and grateful for another video after what feels like ages heheh.
Please, Wolfpack, after you showed us Granits, now I want to see an Oscar (+Tu-95 recon) vs US Carrier Battlegroup scenario on your channel!
YYYEEESSSSSSSS
This game has gotten me into Tom Clancy novels, starting with Red Storm Rising, so good!
Red Storm Rising was the best book Clancy ever wrote.
I must say when it began getting chaotic, I genuinely felt like I was onboard defending the ship with my life. Love the videos, the only thing I ask for is for you to give us more information on the missiles and ships themselves because I feel like I'm learning more and more about naval combat. Great video
I am a simple man, I see Kirov BattleCruiser, I hit the like button
Im happy that someone actually does videos of СССР NAVY
That's awesome. I didn't know there were also fully voiced russian lines.
I think a challenge for those of us coming to Cold War era games like this is to remember how missile-to-radar technology worked back then. We are used to playing Command or other hi-tech games set in the post-1995 world of semi-active radar homing missiles, like the AMRAAM or Patriot. But in the Cold War, most missiles (SAMs and AAMs) needed active homing radar from the firing platform to guide them all the way home. This was true for basically all Russian missiles, but also NATO missiles like the Phoenix, Sparrow, etc., unless it was an infrared missile fired at short range (Stinger or Sidewinder).
It was true until the mid 70s.
AIM64 phoenix, and for the issr R30 and R33 were self guiding, and S300 had composite guidance from the start, and S200 got self guiding missiles eventually.
While NATO mostly ignored GBAD, and assumed air supermacy in their doctrinal planning, the soviets always knew they would be on the backfoot in the air, and sunk consudersvle resources and planning into SAM development.
Part of this was the experience in Vietnam with S75M, and concluded that the best way of countering SEAD was minimizing the time radar directors irradiate, and displacing them physically from the TELAR units.
To this end both s200 and 300 were mounted on sepf propelled trailers with a bominal 5 minute deployment time, and the missile batteries only had tight beam director radars rendering them invisible to elint apart from the tadget the, were painting, with the air search radar only at regiment level.
The damage control teams on Slava need a fucking raise and a promotion.
Compared to the actual crew which were crap
@@EVERSMAN42Weakest Soviet crew vs strongest Russian crew lmao
Based@@92HazelMocha
Extra vodka rations will have to do
@@92HazelMocha based
Man this video was immersive. I felt sorry for the ships that were hit.
Greetings from Canada, Wolfpack 345! Just wanted to tell you how much I am enjoying your Sea Power gameplay videos! In fact recently I find myself spending more free time watching your Sea Power videos than watching Netflix movies! Tribute to just how good your playthroughs and accompanying commentary are, sir! OMG this game looks amazing! *New Sub*
American here, but as a kid I had my dad's Jane's Pocket Guide to Warships that I used to look at all the time. I remember thinking that all the Russian warships looked totally badass, just bristling with guns, missiles, everything. Every western Naval ship looked so tame and unassuming, while the Russian ships looked the part of being built for war.
Even tho the game is great, god, Soviet crew VA feels lackluster. Nobody issues commands like that in our navy.
I'll voice acting will be redone
You make by far the best decisions out of every sea power player I have seen. Super fun, please keep them coming :D
Might be worthwhile to have your destroyers on the western side of the formation with the turn to the north to avoid your cruiser from taking so many AShM's
Should also have put the Udaloy on weapons free. He spent most of this scenario with the unit with the best point defence missile systems in the entire fleet on weapons-tight.
Also should have increased the number of escorts, the Soviets would not have sent a fleet of mostly surface oriented ships into submarine infested waters with only a single BPK to escort them.
Damn, I oddly felt bad when all the choppers were going home and that one was just hovering in sadness😂
KIROV REPORTING
KIROV REPORTING
KIROV REPORTING
HELIUM MIX OPTIMAL
KIROV REPORTING
Maneuver props engaged
Man as much as i like to see you play and not even get scratched it’s cool to see you get challenged this game is insane
Your formation need to be tighter. With your smaller ships screening for Kirov, she can use her inventory to support the screen.
Additionally, tighter formations will make CWIS and guns more effective.
Ships close together can also throw out one ginormous cloud of chaff.
That beginning song was epic. I might just rewatch this on repeat simply to listen to it lol
This is like the hunt for the Bismark
I love your channel and coverage of sea power. From a realistic perspective once the decision was made to engage those A6s I’d say the military’s philosophy on expect worse case scenario would apply. I would assume there are missiles in the air (activate air search radars), then (assuming the decision to engage is necessary) assure the a6s shoot down, assume there are subs repositioning or torps in the water (deploy sonar buoys), assume there are surface contacts repositioning (plan counter offensive/defense for long range ASM launch), and continue with mission goal under fire assessing as new actions arise (probably aircraft from land base). 15:52
Fun fact, the ship Moskva which got sunk by Ukraine in spring 2022 was originally named Slava. So your actually commanding the Moskva that got sunk
Yep. People were mistaking the Moskva (first ship of the Moskva class) hellicopter cruiser of a previous video, believing it to be the Slava guided missile cruiser, _this_ Slava (first ship of the Slava class, renamed Moskva after Moskva was retired, then sunk in 2022). OF COURSE she survived this battle; she had a date with some drones that she couldn't miss.
Yeah, there's like 2 Slava class cruisers left (used to be 3 with Moskva) and one of them is the Varyag, also I think there may be one Kirov class left but undergoing repairs as the nuclear reactor shielding was failing endangering the crew, not sure which ship of the line it was though.
@@Spendingryan 2 Kirov's actually exist today; one is active at the moment, the latter is being repaired, as you said
@@Spendingryan4 Kirov-class Battlecruisers were build :
Kirov - Admiral Ushakov after 1992
Frunze - Admiral Lazarev after 1992
Kalinin - Admiral Nakhimov after 1992
Pyotr Velikiy - completed in 1998
First 3 were in reserve from 90-s, and the 4th is still active
In 2015 Russia decided to repair and modernize third ship, Admiral Nakhimov, she is right now at the final stages of it, and is planned to return into serice in 2025
The one with failing reactor is Kirov herself, now Admiral Ushakov. In 2016 she was sent to scrapping
The last one Admiral Lazarev, was sent to srapping in 2019
Probably Pyotr Velikiy will get the same modernazation as Admiral Nakhimov
Except this one is actually operational lmao. The one who was the flagship of Black Sea fleet was an absolute wreck
*mentions Udoloy*
Me: *sitting in a corner, crying and waving a knife around as the nightmares of Wargame: Red Dragon enter my mind*
You can't let 2 prowlers lurking around your group like this (at start)... must be priority number one, they send continuous info about your group...
you need to ensure the kill with multiple AA missiles on each one, asap.
They are like the eye of Sauron above you !
Information is (and always was) the key at war, don't let them gathering all info about you.
Modern warfare is, more than ever, a cat and mouse game.
Be the cat and not the mouse.
Using EMCOM and shooting ennemy planes as soon as possible is the first priority.
You need to preserve your "fog of war" for the ennemy.
I suppose you could send missile on external radar info on this game.
e2c and prowlers up, he was probably 100% detected from the start of the scenario.
Shooting a plane is the opposite of EMCON, basically reveals exactly who you are and where you are...
@@josephmagana6235 EMCON : emission control, not weapon control.
Did you ever ear about datalink ?
Anyway, only one surface radar should be used, the one for the best SAM system (longer range) if there is no datalink.
Switching on surface radar ONLY when targets, spotted by helo's radars, enter the range of the sam, and not before.
Open radar and immediate fire, with multiple missiles on each target to ensure fast kill, as soon as the target enter the sam range.
Then ensure complete destuction of the aerial patrol, not allowing the planes to evaluate visually the situation to report and call for a naval strike, as they did.
The goal is to be the first one to deliver the SS salvo, not the one to receive it.
You are supposed to be NOT ID as long as you have not fired the first SS attack.
That's also why helo reco is very important : to be the first to engage and not to be engaged at first.
Plotting a buoy pattern for one or (better cause faster) 2 helo, and an helo to pop up (3000ft is enought, then back to 20ft) sometimes (just short pictures, not "radar on" all the way !) to get a radar picture, while advancing toward the ennemy.
THIS helo will tell you when to open the sam radar because he will tell you when ennemy planes are in range of the sam, very important helo, here also, better 2 then one (but at different places), because it is exposed.
That's how I would have managed the start of this mission, to try to be the first to attack.
@@bigpoppa1234 he was a radar contact for ennemy AI, but as long as he doesn't open any radar on the fleet, he can't be ID as ennemy except from visual ID.
And that's what AI are supposed to do : if it can't ID your radar tag, it send an asset to ID you. But as long as it didn't ID you, he won't engage you.
that's all the point to destroy the prowler before visual range, with EMCON status.
@@cladecq Yes, but the moment that prowler is illuminated he knows now that unknown radar contact is a hostile cruiser group. Realistically there just wasn't a way soviet surface combatants could avoid being detected first in this kind of scenario. They needed some kind of air cover.
Was it all just a dream?
Yes
Your story telling skills are amazing. Please post more Sea Power videos. Its always a joy to watch them
FOR THE ALGORITHM !
Thanks!
How often can we spam that b4 its bad for the algorithm?
FOR THE ALGORITHM !
FOR THE ALGORITHM !
I was stationed on the Yorktown CG-48 form 90-95...that felt a bit personal 😃. Love these vids. This game is a def purchase on release day.
This game can't come soon enough
Sad to see iowa go down but loved the video. I always look forward to your videos. You make excellent videos
That... was... brutal
i used to do these types of engagements in Lock On: Modern Air Combat way back in early 2000s. The predecessor to DCS.
I even used the Kuznetsov as a flagship in some scenarios. The Kuznetsov is quite capable by herself even xD
Well the game Kuznetsov is. Real Kuznetsov is rather less so due to her propensity for breakdowns.
I thought that editing mistake was just me accidentally rewinding the video lol
Me too. It was just after a pop-up and I thought I hit something
Kirov vs Iowa, absolutely epic! Also I must say, your choice of music is (as usual) damn good. Especially when the first Granit salvo was launched, that was better than any movie.
Love the sea power videos.Hope you make a series on the campaign when the game fully launches
This game gives me flashbacks to Red Storm Rising. What an awesome book.
Just glad it’s back so I can finish watching. 😂
Amazing !! Wolf you really know how to make nail biter videos . Please keep using your talent and knowledge to keep us entertained ! I'm not really a fanboy type of guy but your vids totally rock . Thank You Sir
Slava class seems to not have much luck with missiles irl and in the game ;D
At least this one was afloat because it's systems were actually operational. The Moskva... Damn that was a wreck
@@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyerit's the same ship, Slava was renamed to Moscow
@@BeKindToBirds I know. But in game it's fully operational and freshly built, and IRL it was a rotting piece of metal with most of it's systems not working.
35:44: That is so freaking sick - thanks for the content man!
Second Battle of the Denmark strait be like :
and almost right on the date. Had it been 2 days earlier, it would have hit the right date.
”There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today, Ivan.”
@@pansarskott1 lol 😂😂
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS GAME, you got me into War on the Sea, now I’ve put 500 hours into that game. You got me into Silent Hunter, 200 hours. Cold waters? 300 hours. now this game? It’s gonna be a lot
I think a Tu-142 or a recon Tu-95 would be around to provide top cover. Those planes are part of the navy so they would likely be sent to spot for Kirov on rotation.
Very unlikely, they would have been hit immediately.
@@josephwhiskeybeale By who? The only air power in the area were F-15 out of Iceland so Sparrow is the longest range weapon. No one is intercepting them on route either. And that recon Tu-95 is flying in the stratosphere above two S-300 batteries.
Just a tip, you should be able to fire on targets that are outside of range as long as the intercept point is in range... So if the plane is heading right towards you, you can shoot when it's outside the max range as by the time the missile gets to the target the target will then be within the circle and should hit... This should help with engaging targets sooner that come within weapons range.
Aren't those Soviet anti-air missiles command and semi-active guided? So without air search radar, they shouldn't be effective?
They have separate targeting radar (it looks like a muffin, lmao) search radar detects the target and tells the targeting radar where to look to lock it, if you already know where the target is, you don't need a search radar
Buk and S300 are semi active missiles, but they have also secundary radio command modes
Basically Krug but smarter.
Basically, almost all non IR homing SAMs, tbh, except new active radar homing ones like S-350 or Patriot PAC-3, but they still have both search and targeting radar
@ser43_OLDC I meant that the ship has a separate targeting radar for S-300 (and another two, one for each Osa), not the missiles themselves
Also, Osa and Tor are ONLY radio command guided, even much more modern Pantsir-S1 still is only command guided, it keeps missiles light, makes them faster and more maneuverable which is really important for SHORAD
Now we need to make a video about a similar strike by two nuclear submarines of the 949A type. These are carriers of exactly the same P-700 Granit weapon. Launch from the submarine and the destruction of a large aircraft group with a salvo from two directions simultaneously.
Finally! The big girl is here!
Great video - thank you! Beautiful graphics in this game! Cool to see this epic cold war showdown. I have to admit a pain in my heart when I saw the Iowa take three missiles and sink.
Uh oh, Iowa BB lost? Better hang onto your socks. US is going to be MAD.
I mean. Its WW3. How much madder can they get?
To be honest, the USN would probably have gladly traded away one of the obsolete BBs to protect a CVN or even a big atlantic convoy.
@@egoalter1276good news, you sank the Iowa, which is of questionable usefulness anyway.
Bad news: you didn’t even find the carrier strike force, and it has already found you as evidenced by the Hawkeye and prawler keeping an eye on you. And they have more AShMs than you have interceptors.
it is a video game
This really looks like a modern naval battle, thank you very much, I'm waiting for the game to be released.
Reposting from original video: Day 1 of asking Wolfpack to recreate the final battle in Hunt for Red October. Join me in this request.
That is if the Typhoon SSBN is added ingame
I'm loving the operational flippy doors for the torps and missiles...almost as fun as seeing it in MechWarrior.
At 53:34 Kirov's ship number is mirrored. Should be fixed by game developer! 😎
Yes!! Finally someone said. And I know this because it also happened with the old kirov model in Cold Waters. Afterall, some devs for SP are formerly from Killerfish Games when working on Cold Waters.
@@scarecrow108productions7 yes, 2 out of core 3 CW devs moved on to found Triassic and work on SP
@@MekStark1980 and there's also a dev that used to work on the CW DotMod now also working with this team on Sea Power
Hey just wanted to mention that the A6 is called the "Intruder". I only know that because my dad used to build them for the Navy. Love your channel! Keep publishing your interesting (addicting) content.😊
How much of the earth does the scenario editor have? Like can we do pacific engagements? Arctic? What about trying to get in/out of the Black Sea?
The entire world is in the game
@@Wolfpack345 Could you do a navy scenario in Hungary for the next video?
Only youtuber I instantly stopped doing whatever I was doing when I see a new video.
still a whole month before this game comes out. aaaaaaaaaaaaa
i feel you brother
This is an awesome video of a ship that was promoted to submarine IRL! Keep up the good work! 🌻
So the Harpoon is scary because when it hits it is design to cause fires. So geotting hit by multiple Harpoons not only causes damage from the missle exploding but from the fires that they are designed to cause.
It's the same for any antiship missile. The remaining fuel onboard the missile ignites and causes fires.
@@scorpioni6024erm, no...
The warhead explodes and part of warhead is super hot sludge like honey but burning at 2000 degrees anything it touches burns.
That's what I was thinking every ascm is meant to cause secondary explosions and fires.@@scorpioni6024
17:50 Sampan is a loooong way from home in the Denmark Strait
27:59 Slava just discovered what her future fate will be...
or rather what her sister ship's future fate as this is Slava not Moskva
@@ham_the_spam4423 Nope, this is the same ship. the Slava was renamed to Moskva during the Russian Navy's general de-Sovietization.
@@ham_the_spam4423 Slava is Moskva. She was renamed post-USSR.
The parallels are honestly quite uncanny
well, he literally decided her fate at 9:51 by deciding that she's gonna be "sacrificial"
not really trying to protect her ass much there...
When this came to the channel, I wasn't overly interested, but, as usual, your storytelling and game play has won me over.
Eagerly await the next video!
Кстати, а если разворачивать корабли носом или кормой к ракетам, это помогает избежать попадания?
вряд ли это на что-то повлияет всё равно будет попадание, тут самолёты по рельсам летают и не отворачивают от ракет