Surron Ultra Bee Big Wheels | The Enduro Killer Upgrade

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  • In the last video, Cyprien got to know and appreciate the Sur Ron Ultra Bee. Huge suspensions compared to the Light Bee, brakes that brake hard and don't overheat on long downhills, and above all a bike really made for Cyprien's size.
    However, perfection is a rare thing, and the Ultra Bee is no exception.
    One of this bike's biggest flaws is its wheels. Whether for reasons of economy or weight, the Ultra comes standard with 19-inch wheels and the feeling is far from being perfect. Not to mention the original tires, which Cyprien managed to burst in just two rides.
    Lack of gripp, turning ability, poor geometry and odd, hard-to-manage behavior... after just a few kilometers, we knew this was a bike made for a set of 21/18 wheels.
    I was foresighted and already had a 21/18 set ready for when we received the Ultra.
    So, is this size the best one for the Ultra, does it change the bike's behavior? Should you consider buying a set even before your Ultra?

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  • @villeturkkinen
    @villeturkkinen ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic riding guys!

  • @YCW74
    @YCW74 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m not the gardener, i’m a rider! 😂😂😂
    Au top les gars! Comme toujours 👍🔥
    Hate de pouvoir refaire une session ensemble avec Julien!🤩

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Des que la LX est passé on va se faire une virée !

  • @fnixx1366
    @fnixx1366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “I have a tendency to fall » hahaha, love you guyz!

  • @davecook81
    @davecook81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad I found your channel. Love the videos and your trails. 😎

  • @SerifulStelar
    @SerifulStelar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Surron content on yt Thx for The INFO! Ride safe!

  • @JeffKendallWeed
    @JeffKendallWeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun video guys! I’m surprised your Skydio followed you that well with the trees and bushes. I have two and both get lost by the slightest bush between me and the drone- and that’s with the beacon linked to the drone, and the most recent updates. Anyhow, yeah the 21/18 combo is the only way to go!

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really depends on the height and camera angle! It's funny to read your message now as I lost it 3 days ago (low battery and I was slightly too optimistic). Managed to rescue it yesterday after it spent 2 days and nights out there 😛

  • @sylvieb1448
    @sylvieb1448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super vidéo les garçons !

  • @fasar1128
    @fasar1128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top comme d’habitude!
    Étrange j’ai commandé un kit 21/18 à Vic avant même de recevoir la moto😉😂
    Continuez de nous régalez 🙏

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      T'as eu le bon réflexe, c'est ce qu'il lui faut :)

  • @konyoffroad
    @konyoffroad ปีที่แล้ว

    On voit clairement la différence de trajectoire la c'est tout droit 😁 avec le combo 21/18 combo parfait
    Il leur a mi tarif au pneu d'origine

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ouais l’Espagne c’est du papier de verre pour les pneus mais bon… ils tiennent clairement pas la route

  • @MaxenceGENTHON
    @MaxenceGENTHON ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing vid!

  • @ebralitis
    @ebralitis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great videos!
    For Europe, where did you order those wheels? And what are the wheels that will fit Ultra Bee? Only Excel and KKE?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gonna work on some proper wheels too for our European mates 🤘

  • @Foerarn1234
    @Foerarn1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How'd you get these wheels to the Ultra Bee?
    Did you order from the US or does your website have the 21/18 with the proper wheel base mounts for Rotors / sprockets?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      We're working on the matter for an availability really soon with drop in compatibility!

  • @matthis4313
    @matthis4313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Monstrueux la capacité du drone à vous suivre, ils sont vraiment allés bien au delà de l'intelligence des DJI ! C'est quel constructeur?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oui c'est incroyable ! C'est Skydio, une marque américaine mais ils ne commercialisent pas du tout en Europe pour le moment :/

  • @adventure.greg80
    @adventure.greg80 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, have you noticed a drop in battery life, with the 21' and 18' wheels? autonomy origin vs autonomy 21'/18'
    thank ;-)

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey there. Nope, not really. As it has a better rollover you end up being able to ride smoother in enduro. I guess it compensâtes the added weight

  • @jonasscheidegger1890
    @jonasscheidegger1890 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is this beautiful trail?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is Costa Brava in the North of Spain 👍

  • @Ron-don
    @Ron-don ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you looking to change the sprocket or power mode of the ultra

  • @BalkanGuyOnTwoWheels
    @BalkanGuyOnTwoWheels ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much do you guys weigh? And what is the mileage of the UltraBee with your riding style and your body weight? Thanks!

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We'll dedicate a video to mileage but Cyprien is 80kg and you can do about 50km with this type of riding.

    • @BalkanGuyOnTwoWheels
      @BalkanGuyOnTwoWheels ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTO_Brothers Thanks a lot! Good to know! :)

  • @lloydvillareal1441
    @lloydvillareal1441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Guys! I'm a big fan from the Philippines!
    Can you please share your bike set up? As I'm only a beginner and I admire how fast you guys are!
    -Sprocket
    -Wheels/tires
    -Tire pressure
    -Battery
    -Controller?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey mate, thx for the comment! 🔥
      Here you can find all the upgrades we did to our Surron:
      th-cam.com/video/CiMhplCUJ14/w-d-xo.html

  • @stefan-ge
    @stefan-ge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    everytime i see your content it makes me think like the lightbee modified is the better bike to have, can esily be transporter, is a lot less kg and same power

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are different beasts but yeah, for a rider who's not too tall, the Light Bee is a weapon (and easy to live with)!

    • @surronsd
      @surronsd ปีที่แล้ว

      You can spend the money in the lightbee and it will never brake as good as the UB due to the mtb brakes. Nor will the riding ergonomics feel as full since the lightbee is so narrow and has a short seat. You would end up spending quite a bit more money on the LB just to be as good as the UB

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@surronsd don't agree here. Sur the UB stock is better than the LB, but you can't really say one is better than the other once completed. As a light and short rider myself, I feel more at ease on the LB on technical trails and I bet no one on an UB can follow on MTB trails or bike park.

    • @surronsd
      @surronsd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTO_Brothers we’ve just did quite a bit of testing with fully modified LBs and a couple Almost stock UB(bars and wheels/tires) and our whole group agreed unless you are the tightest technical trails, the UB just rides that much better. Braking and seating ergonomics were just that much better (wider frame). Having said that none of us are very short but riding same trails back to back you could easily see where the LB struggled through the rocky enduro sections, higher speed rough sections the UB floated through where as the LB was very bouncey and didn’t have the same stability. myself personally coming from a fully modified lightbee with some of the best components on the market, vs my new ultrabee I miss the lighter weight of the lightbee but with all the stuff I had (16/19 wheels, gladiator max battery, etc) the weight was as big of a change as I originally thought it would, the ultra still rides like a larger lightbee and significantly more nimble then a traditional big petrol bike

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@surronsd I mostly agree. 21/18 on the LB is the better comparison with the Ultra. I love both bikes but with my size (170cm) and weight I'm more efficient on the LB. Now my brother who's taller and heavier than me feels really confortable on the Ultra.

  • @fabriceclaudeaugris
    @fabriceclaudeaugris ปีที่แล้ว

    tip top, c'est quoi l'autonomie de l'ultra avec vos sorties?
    Merci

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On est en train de faire une petite vidéo sur le sujet !

  • @mattcgtx4809
    @mattcgtx4809 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you feel the bike is a little unbalanced with 21/18
    I feel more weight toward the rear
    Handles good but the front suspension seems to ride a little high not using all the travel??!!

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The tyre is obviously heavier but up front too, so I'd say it's still balanced. I haven't noticed the suspensions not working fully though…

  • @marcelbergeron5345
    @marcelbergeron5345 ปีที่แล้ว

    No worries about a head on collision down those trails?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Been riding there for years, we always anticipate and never had trouble crossing people (doesn’t happen that often though)

  • @chrisc6162
    @chrisc6162 ปีที่แล้ว

    What bars do you have on the ultra bee

  • @castrol133
    @castrol133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What drone are you using please?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a Skydio drone.

  • @evltwin984
    @evltwin984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you re-lace the stock hubs onto the bigger rims? If so what spokes did you use? Thnx

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No we still have the stock wheels, we went for KKE hubs here.

  • @gsu1972crew
    @gsu1972crew ปีที่แล้ว

    Does he ride the UB with traction control fully off? What did he mean by "full sensor"?

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, we haven't used it once… Gonna remove it altogether real soon with the ABS. It was the fall sensor that triggered (this one's gonna go too).

    • @gsu1972crew
      @gsu1972crew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MTO_Brothers Thank you! I had TC off but still felt like I wasn't getting drive at difficult transitions. I had the fall sensor on. Will turn that off from now on.

    • @surronsd
      @surronsd ปีที่แล้ว

      Program mode C is the tilt sensor settings, change that to “C0” and no more power cut outs 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @testtor2714
    @testtor2714 ปีที่แล้ว

    The drone follows you automatically?

  • @JAYMT07
    @JAYMT07 ปีที่แล้ว

    where did you buy the wheels from here in the uk we have 3 month wait

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      The perks of working in the area. Samples to try them out. We'll soon add them to the website.

  • @tianjohan4633
    @tianjohan4633 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take care of your trails, put in a few days of hard work to keep up with the growth and you will enjoy riding those trails again.

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Woooow, way too many miles of trails to take care of the growing nature. But it’s part of the game and the very reason we use hand guards 😝

  • @mattcgtx4809
    @mattcgtx4809 ปีที่แล้ว

    What tires did you go with??

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      These are Vee Rubbers. But we’ll try different things to see what’s best

  • @oOVimanaOo
    @oOVimanaOo ปีที่แล้ว

    Je ne suis pas jardinier mais pilote 😂😂.

    • @MTO_Brothers
      @MTO_Brothers  ปีที่แล้ว

      Un peu des deux parfois il faut croire hahaha