Felt great to go back to Doom, definitely need to do more of those vids. Huge thanks to NordVPN for supporting the channel and sponsoring this video. Go to NordVPN.com/karljobst for a 2 year plan with a huge discount. It supports me as well :)
Actually not that low-a ton of early FPS speedrunners were Scandinavian. Granted these guys are a bit more recent, but in the early/mid-2000s this would've been par for the course.
I'll be honest. When I woke up this morning I just didn't feel like an absolute legend but I saw this uploaded and immediately I knew that I couldn't have been more wrong. Thank you Karl, you absolute legend.
@@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ I believe that we share that conclusion in common. It might sound like a sorrowful thing to people that do not feel the same but I found that I personally became a lot happier. As for my original comment; I just woke up and it was one of those mornings where as soon as you realize that it's time to get up you just feel like the day is gonna drag for much longer than any day has the right to be. Karl calling his audience "absolute legends" is just something fun that I enjoy. I did blow my reaction to seeing an upload a little out of proportion I guess.
@@idontknowleavemealoneplease interesting. i don't think there's no sense in life, but i stopped caring about stupid BS after realizing that there's a lot of truly important things and it's made me generally happier. i just focus on being better every day and i try to remember that bad times always end
I love how Karl points out distinct playstyles of the speed-runners, like Looper being more mechanical and Zero Master finding consistent ways to execute risky strats. It almost feels like we are getting a peek at these players' personalities.
This and other "little" things is what makes his content so high quality. Like when he tries some tricks himself for a few hours to see what it's about etc.
On Speed Demos Archive there was a lively thread for bounties. Oh about 7-8 years ago I posted a bounty for Doom 2 being young and dumb for the Doom 2 Ultra-Violence category at 500$ thinking it would never happen. Zero-master eventually accomplished the 23:03 you see in Karl's video so technically I owe Zero-master 500$ but he was nice enough to set it aside. Never get yourself into a mindset confirming that a run is impossible to improve as it might bite you in the ass!
Am I the only one who legitimately cackled out loud when Zero Master entered the scene? He's like the final boss that I knew was coming, but couldn't help but just get giddy at his arrival
These jokes have me tickled pinky, and I'll make great elemental pains to resurrect a zombie thread to say so; I don't care if it makes me look like a lonely lost soul with nothing better to do.
I love these history videos. As a history teacher myself I love that Doom is one of those games where player contributions will be easily immortalized for decades if not centuries so long as technology does not regress. The DEMO file is really a fantastic tool that allows for a complete duplication of any one speedrun, and one that's easy to preserve aswell. It's similar with how vanilla professional starcraft can be watched in real time since some old tournaments in south korea used demo files aswell. Games like doom will endure where other titles will fade into obscurity. I mean who's gonna remember Overwatch or some COD record as clearly as one would a Doom record? Only Doom has a means of preserving gameplay in a away that's accessible and suitable for archiving. When battlenet goes belly up away goes any hope of salvaging first person sources from those "services" called games is gone forever. Doom on the other hand, is indeed eternal so keep at it all you absolute legends.
while i agree with the majority of this comment, the idea that the history of these games is going to be impossible to document or salvage is just silly when everything is archived on the internet in some form or another these days. that, and, well ... overwatch doesn't have a campaign to speedrun or document, so the only history would be tournament matches *anyway*, much like blizzard's other multiplayer experiences, and the most famous and well-known of those are already documented on youtube or some other site.
@@DracXBelmont Problem is there is still no way to fully restore entire gameplay sessions like with the demo files, other than large filesize video recordings. The quality of the source material for modern titles will deteriorate as companies invest less and less into maintaining the games they set aside. Sure games are more complex and there's other source material, but it's not quite the same thing as having access to an input recording precise down to the last frame.
@@Midgert89 Oh, of course not, but I'd argue that even Doom's contemporaries would be difficult to archive / restore gameplay sessions because Doom's demo feature is something that is only very rarely done, with Doom being the main one to do it well. So, it's definitely not something that's inherent to modern gaming, at least in my opinion.
the issue with comparing overwatch to doom is that overwatch is continually updated meaning even if they had demo support it would be broken over time. if you look at TF2 they had to create an entirley seperate branch of the game that predates jungle inferno due to the rework of the pyro.
Yes it is. I still remember the first time I ever used it in '94 when I first played DOOM2. I didn't know at the time that there was a new shotgun until stumbling upon it in Underhalls and the satisfaction it brings clearing hallways and dropping demons has never faded even after all this time.
im still holding out for a Doom Mod in Minecraft with iron making the pistol and shotguns along with their respective ammo gunpowder unneeded due to Creeper killing rareity
Karl, your videos will go down in history as some of the greatest in not only covering speed running but bringing in new people to the sport. They are fantastic and I really appreciate all the hard work you put into them.
I don't understand the point you're trying to make... what does the length compared to the record have to do with anything at all?... what were you trying to say?
Random fact: Pecka is pronounced "petska" in Czech and it means stone (UK eng) or pit (US eng) of fruit. Just the hard part of fruit like an apricot or cherry.
When I was a kid, I used to blast through these levels cause I was terrified of the demons. I didn't know I was technically speedrunning lol. Great trip down memory lane!
You are THE FIRST person to give me ( Dashiva ) partial credit for map07 pacifist. So I thank you! It started as an argument between speedrunners. It isn't possible. It'll never be done. It can't be done. I provided evidence that with a properly timed and setup SR50 run, it was 100% possible due to the way the engine was coded, and then stx-Vile took that, and literally the next day made it a reality (albeit with a rocket jump twist, which is all his), because he's a beast. I remember fighting the passionate fight that IT WAS TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE with more "realists" and going to bed satisfied that I had made my point in a fight I had NO stakes in. Waking up only to see what he had just done. It was an amazing day for me. Not because my proof motivated someone to make it real, but because it actually happened. map07-pacifist was thought impossible for decades. To be fair, I could never have done it on my own. I was a speed runner, yes, but not in his category. So he gave me a unique opportunity to unleash a "I told you so!" on the speed running community that I would not have been able to obtain on my own. Karl, thanks for being so thorough in your research as to acknowledge my contribution here. It isn't to my knowledge well documented, and Vile never mentioned me in his text file with his run, so that was impressive to me to see all these years later. Big Fan.
the greatest thing is the fact that all these speedruns have been dramatticaly increased in the last 10 years. I mean, before I met this channel, I was looking at Doom II with a little nostalgia: 'ah good old forgotten game, its good days are far away in the past'. This channel shows that things are different. The history is being made right now. Doom 2 still lives and 472 000 suscribers are watching how people break new bounds of speedrun. This game still lives. Wow.
I've never seen such a diverse community in a video game. People from, Germany, Sweden, The Czech republic, Finland, norway, USA, hugary and more. Gotta love how the world unites over these things.
Better than summoning salt if you ask me, straight to the point, a little background information and in general a lack of "and then this and then that" segments. Well done! Please do more of these such videos.
Great timing on this video for me. I just started grinding about a month ago to prepare for doing full game UV Max runs, and I've been watching so many Doom videos. This was a great insight into the history with a lot of things I didn't know about. Great stuff!
2001: Pick up movies to watch at Blockbuster, or bust out the VHS tapes to enjoy a classic. 2021: Use computer wizardry to trick your streaming website into thinking you are on the other side of the world to gain access to the movie you want to watch.
@@AnonyMous-lk7ziyou're losing money paying for the subscription whether you use a VPN or not lmfao. It's not like the company will give you back your money once you stop using their subscription service 😂. Apparently you don't understand how money, or subscriptions work.
It's always a little surreal to think that these games were being speedran when I was only a few months old, and 24 years later people are still improving the time.
The quality, research you do, the way you present all the info and so much more, is truly a notch above any others in regard to the speed running community. I personally think you are one of the best on TH-cam period.
Sub 17½ is such a huge accomplishment, implementing everything nearly perfectly for the entire run. There are so many tricks these days and you have to get them all (and the game itself) right without even a single moderate screw up to reach that time. The record on Looper's channel is truly a marvel to behold and one should go and appreciate the sheer level of skill and consistent execution on it. Can't recommend enough.
Your videos about speedrunning history of are one of the best, if not the best, among it's kind. Thank you so much for delivering such high quality content. Please keep up the amazing work you've been developing. You are an absolute legend!
Karl upload s and it makes my day, I really enjoy the content, I love the history behind these awesome timeless games and the wonderful people that dedicated their time to it. Karl is a really good person player and content creator, he is humble and has no ego issues, he doesn't like to brag because he knows there are plenty of other people in the world who are pretty amazing too, he doesn't brag or act like he is the best he respects his fellow gamers and genuinely enjoys their achievements and is happy for them. Lol he did a video list of speedruns, and included himself on the list but never once said that it was him or mention much of the skill it required he kept it simple and if you didn't notice the name you never would have knew it was him and he also didn't fluff it up and make it sound like he was some sort of doom god lmao, great guy I love him, he actually IS an absolute legend!!
Can't be said enough how great you are at presenting speedrunning in a way that even people unfamiliar with the game can appreciate. ESPN has a hard time doing that with sports. History, background, and the impact of innovation are are done so well. You are crushing it.
It is funny to hear Czech names read by foreigners :D However you almost landed it perfectly actually, but still was funny to hear it :D Back to a point, another great video from you, I love your content and I always enjoy it. It must take such a long time to prepare the informations and data to make the video, I really do admire your work.
My favorite thing about these types of videos is that they are like a documentary. Like, this is the same caliber as if there was a documentary on the history of Baseball pitcher's speed of throws and styles and how they changed over the century of the sport. The same type of niche appeal, same quality as any big brand documentary maker.
Big documentary companies really missed out on this whole niche market, but with really popular games like Doom or Super Mario they could still get a huge audience. It's just that all the executives in charge of making the decisions are probably old and clueless.
I think his videos are too long, and also too much pure data just "read from a paper" like every single time almost. This is a good middle ground with a little bit more backstory and perfect length being sub 30 min. But karl has always been absolutely (a legend) great doing videos like this with a perfect mix.
@@ottojagenstedt9740 "just read from a paper" I hate to break this too you, but a good majority of TH-camrs write out a script for their TH-cam videos and what they are gonna say... which is basically reading from a paper...and yes Karl is one of those youtubers.... yeah I don't think you know what you're talking about lol.
@snipple dipple Acknowledge that you do nothing but reply under people’s comments with the original phrases “No one asked” or “No one cares” because you have nothing better to do :/
You're an absolute legend, Karl Jobst! And I'll tell you why exactly. Initially, speedrunning was not something I was interested in, far from it. But your storytelling talent and skills quickly won me over. You are the sort of guy that can make anything interesting. I wish my teachers at school were like you.
Actually insane how far the WR went down by, from over an hour to 17:29, that might be one of the most drastic changes I've ever seen for a game in speedrunning.
I’m always itching for your next upload and wonder why it takes so long but after watching this video I understand. You put great detail into it and time looking through so much of everyone’s runs. You are an absolute legend!!!
*"Doom isn't technically 3D"* Yes it is, it has a Z-Axis and everything, it just skips checking for it in a number of circumstances, but it still frequently comes up regularly in gameplay.
@@XenoSpyro There is something weird in duke nukem where your environment changes depending on how you move but isn't necessarily consistent. So you can have an air vent leading to somwhere and when you go to the same location outside of the airvent there is just a wide open field or something. Or a pillar where you do not return to the same place after circling around it for 360 degrees. I always thought those things were related to the term 2.5D but not sure the term even means anything. Maybe it just means "2D sprites in a 3D setting"
@@commanderleo Ive seen people call doom 2.5D before, for the record, levels are stored in 2D, the game is in 3D, and the monsters were infinitely tall on purpouse to get better performance. Its why you can cross under missiles because their collision checks are cheaper
Loving listening to your videos while cooking. Ive listenied to a few of them multiple times. The perfect thing for a gamer to listen to while cooking. Love the fact you mention the names of old skool legend whos contributions would be long forgotten to the masses. Its a great way to pay homage and at the same time level up peoples knowledge.
I was already excited when I saw you were planing to release a new video about Doom today, but i couldnt guess itll be this topic. Ive been watching loopers livestreams in which he played the category for about four months and saw him progress in it. Its the first time ive seen the things, which will probably be shown in the video, myself before watching it, what makes me insanely excited about it. Thumbs up for putting this category in a video of yours!
Legendary content, as always! Had the honor to witness Loopers first sub 18 live. Watching all that grind really puts into perspective all the hard work that goes into these runs.
ZeroMaster will be back with a sub 17 before the end of the year. I really want to see a history video for Nightmare as well because that is one I know a lot of old players that fell out of the scene claimed was impossible. When I told my dad a guy beat it in 24 minutes, he said there was no way. I also really want to see how top UV runners hold up in Nightmare. What makes ZeroMaster so great is he's the king of nightmare difficulty and many of the strats he's developed for that make the UV runs so much more competitive.
I was feeling so downbeat today until I saw this video and now I feel like an absolute legend. The effort put to DOOM 2 and the whole franchise overall is incredible, one of the best communities out there and I'm glad Karl brings this documentary of how a game that came out so long ago, still has players and lot of relevance in the speedrunning community
This is a classic progression video by Karl Jobst: -The progression of the runs is astonishing. -He said "[insert player] would achieve...this run." -He used Unused Song 2 from The Flintstones after showing footage of the final run. -The final time shown in the video is absolutely fucking godlike. But this time, it's different. Because the other 2 videos like this (the one about The Chasm and the other one about The Slipgate Complex) had final times that physically cannot be beaten (32 and 19 respectively). This one however, looks like it could maybe eventually perhaps possibly even go below 17:00. Maybe. We'll just have to wait and see...
I really appreciate how much work you do to make videos like THIS ONE. Thank you for giving us that piece of nostalgy and information, can't wait for next ones
@@fojisan2398 It is extremely recommendable that you use a proper source port though, trust me it will make the experience much more enjoyable. And there are many ports and settings that don't sacrifice the vanilla feel of classic Doom.
@@fojisan2398 Sorry for the misunderstanding then. That's really cool, I'm surprised you managed to get it to run at all, especially the sound. My only experience with Doom's vanilla engine was through the Depths of Doom Trilogy compilation, but that was in the 90's, when I was just an unappreciative wean lol.
I always look forwards to these videos. There is something very satisfying about them. The pacing alongside recognition of technical excellence and creativity.
Doom is my favorite series to watch speedrunning content from and you're my favorite guy to watch speedrunning deep dive/analysis content from. So, it's like a double whammy of happiness when you release a new Doom video! :D
The war to sub-18 was absolutely epic! Three speedrunners pushing each other to improve their times it's unusual, and it's a thing that just could happen on Doom community. Thanks for bringing back Doom to the cannel, Karl!
Thanks for helping me stay clean (for two years now), make content of my own, and keep my brain occupied when I start to feel those old anxieties creeping in on me. I’m engaged and living in my own house now, and your content has kept me going during some of the hardest parts of my battle. Thank you Karl Jobst! Awesome vid!
Thank you for making this video! I'm a Doom veteran that started way back in 1994. I have never attempted any type of Doom speed running before even though I would love to try it. The problem is...I have medical issues that effect my memory and while I'm a damn good player there's no way I could remember all of those precise movements. I have however placed times in terrorist hunts on expert with my team in Rainbow Six Vegas 2 on the Xbox 360. The last time I checked we were still tied for first place but...we did it with only two players the other top 10 teams were full at 4 people. When we tied first place we were practicing and it...just happened. That's why we were not running a full team. Addendum- I sure wish Ubisoft would do a remaster of the two Rainbow Six Vegas games as I would try for it again. ;)
Felt great to go back to Doom, definitely need to do more of those vids. Huge thanks to NordVPN for supporting the channel and sponsoring this video. Go to NordVPN.com/karljobst for a 2 year plan with a huge discount. It supports me as well :)
Thank you for the fun content... Love learning about speedrunning you actually got me into it
I would love to see you do an interview with Sandy Petersen about Doom level design and how it ended up impacting speedrunning.
@@DannieRay23 good idea!
I’m loving the Doom Speedrun vids Educational and interesting Keep up the great work dude :)
Does Demonlord aka Daniel Lindgren has anything to do with Armada aka Adam Lindgren or is this just a popular swedish last name?
Demonlord - Sweden
Looper - Finland
Zeromaster - Norway
what were the odds
Now we just need a runner from Wales to make it NSFW 😏
All we need is Denmark (and maybe Iceland, Faroe islands, Greenland... well, you get the point) and we have all of Scandinavia.
It's dark and cold outside 180 days of the year? :D
And the bartender said, “What is this, some kind of joke?”
Actually not that low-a ton of early FPS speedrunners were Scandinavian. Granted these guys are a bit more recent, but in the early/mid-2000s this would've been par for the course.
"I am actually quite happy", said without emotion. Yep, Finnish confirmed
he was downright ecstatic
Kimi approves
@@XraynPR Finnish people man
@@arkan5000 nordic ppl in general, i suppose. just dont show as much emotions as those spanish and italian folks who live nearer to the aequator
@Shiro Musk I just hope Kimi got his drink 😔
I'll be honest. When I woke up this morning I just didn't feel like an absolute legend but I saw this uploaded and immediately I knew that I couldn't have been more wrong. Thank you Karl, you absolute legend.
Personally, I found sense in life when I realized there is actually none
@@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ I believe that we share that conclusion in common. It might sound like a sorrowful thing to people that do not feel the same but I found that I personally became a lot happier. As for my original comment; I just woke up and it was one of those mornings where as soon as you realize that it's time to get up you just feel like the day is gonna drag for much longer than any day has the right to be. Karl calling his audience "absolute legends" is just something fun that I enjoy. I did blow my reaction to seeing an upload a little out of proportion I guess.
@@idontknowleavemealoneplease interesting. i don't think there's no sense in life, but i stopped caring about stupid BS after realizing that there's a lot of truly important things and it's made me generally happier. i just focus on being better every day and i try to remember that bad times always end
@@harleyspeedthrust4013 I'm glad you were able to find something that makes you happier like I did.
@@idontknowleavemealoneplease both sides are respectful, reflective and open for true discussions. Truly rare lol
I love how Karl points out distinct playstyles of the speed-runners, like Looper being more mechanical and Zero Master finding consistent ways to execute risky strats. It almost feels like we are getting a peek at these players' personalities.
I agree. It gives his videos more of a documentary feel.
This and other "little" things is what makes his content so high quality. Like when he tries some tricks himself for a few hours to see what it's about etc.
Demonlord: The time can't go much lower than this
Zeromaster, Elim, Looper: That's called foreshadowing!
A behemoth was stirring....
or "tempting fate"
On Speed Demos Archive there was a lively thread for bounties. Oh about 7-8 years ago I posted a bounty for Doom 2 being young and dumb for the Doom 2 Ultra-Violence category at 500$ thinking it would never happen. Zero-master eventually accomplished the 23:03 you see in Karl's video so technically I owe Zero-master 500$ but he was nice enough to set it aside.
Never get yourself into a mindset confirming that a run is impossible to improve as it might bite you in the ass!
@@NrGDime
Any time anyone ever says "This can't be beaten".. I'm about to end this man's career
Intro: 0:00
History: 4:09
DOOM Honorifics: 5:06
Back to History (Demonlord): 5:59
Late 90's, Early 2000's (Hegyi, Skogsto, Vile, Pecka...): 8:09
Compet-N and the Dark Age: 13:22
-The Doomed Speed Demos Archive: 16:12
Looper & Zeromaster: 17:54
2016 (Elim): 22:26
-New Exploit: 23:35
-Sub-18 Grinding: 25:20
Sub-18: 26:09
-Current Record: 28:00
Overview & Outro: 28:04
Thank you you absolute legend
Give this man a cookie or something
Always appreciate folks who take the time to post timestamps like these.
Thanks! 👍
@Surviving Alone loser who gets this heated at someone for being helpful to others lol
@@anonopossum he's not alone for nothing 😂
Am I the only one who legitimately cackled out loud when Zero Master entered the scene? He's like the final boss that I knew was coming, but couldn't help but just get giddy at his arrival
Don't you mean you Caco'd out loud?
@@CarbonRollerCaco I'd imagine they did so impishly, at that.
@@KnjazNazrath Your association of them with such a low creature was quite Vile.
@@CarbonRollerCaco
All these puns really make me feel like an icon of disappointment.
These jokes have me tickled pinky, and I'll make great elemental pains to resurrect a zombie thread to say so; I don't care if it makes me look like a lonely lost soul with nothing better to do.
This is the only man on earth that is unironically allowed to say 'epic'
epic gamer moment
i agree. he has solved the Ulti Epic -equasion !!
stfu bob
@@GhSt-vl5sq
stfu ghost
Davie504 too...
i really love this clichéd "no one can go faster, i dont think anyone can beat this time" just for the time to get halfed later down the road.
"without cheating" can have a lot of interpretations though...
The History of Looper's Coca-Cola tower
An alternate title I see
Hello there
Coka?
You deserve a video from Karl. Your GTA 2 speedruns are insane.
@@matevizhanyo7604 he speedruns GTA 2?? Wooow... link pls?
"The goal is simply to get to the end of the game with no restrictions."
These speedrunners are really sleeping on the idclip strategy.
IDCLEV30 and done!
I love these history videos. As a history teacher myself I love that Doom is one of those games where player contributions will be easily immortalized for decades if not centuries so long as technology does not regress. The DEMO file is really a fantastic tool that allows for a complete duplication of any one speedrun, and one that's easy to preserve aswell. It's similar with how vanilla professional starcraft can be watched in real time since some old tournaments in south korea used demo files aswell.
Games like doom will endure where other titles will fade into obscurity. I mean who's gonna remember Overwatch or some COD record as clearly as one would a Doom record? Only Doom has a means of preserving gameplay in a away that's accessible and suitable for archiving. When battlenet goes belly up away goes any hope of salvaging first person sources from those "services" called games is gone forever.
Doom on the other hand, is indeed eternal so keep at it all you absolute legends.
while i agree with the majority of this comment, the idea that the history of these games is going to be impossible to document or salvage is just silly when everything is archived on the internet in some form or another these days.
that, and, well ... overwatch doesn't have a campaign to speedrun or document, so the only history would be tournament matches *anyway*, much like blizzard's other multiplayer experiences, and the most famous and well-known of those are already documented on youtube or some other site.
@@DracXBelmont Problem is there is still no way to fully restore entire gameplay sessions like with the demo files, other than large filesize video recordings. The quality of the source material for modern titles will deteriorate as companies invest less and less into maintaining the games they set aside.
Sure games are more complex and there's other source material, but it's not quite the same thing as having access to an input recording precise down to the last frame.
@@Midgert89 Oh, of course not, but I'd argue that even Doom's contemporaries would be difficult to archive / restore gameplay sessions because Doom's demo feature is something that is only very rarely done, with Doom being the main one to do it well. So, it's definitely not something that's inherent to modern gaming, at least in my opinion.
Was going to comment about it's history and stuff and read your comment which just says it all. Love this shit
the issue with comparing overwatch to doom is that overwatch is continually updated meaning even if they had demo support it would be broken over time. if you look at TF2 they had to create an entirley seperate branch of the game that predates jungle inferno due to the rework of the pyro.
Great, thanks for your stuff !
Ah tiens 1ère fois que je te vois commenter sur une vidéo de Karl
ça fait longtemps que je t'apprécie mais te voir ici ça me fait encore plus plaisir
Oh Psyhodelik
The reload sound of the super shotgun is so spine tingling
Yes it is. I still remember the first time I ever used it in '94 when I first played DOOM2. I didn't know at the time that there was a new shotgun until stumbling upon it in Underhalls and the satisfaction it brings clearing hallways and dropping demons has never faded even after all this time.
The minecraft mod looks great! I'm glad we are keeping up with the minecraft content.
You joke but there's actually a mod called Sectorcraft that is literally that :)
@@threehead99 Look before you comment. In fact, it appears it is both!
Average Minecraft fan VS Average DooM Enjoyer
im still holding out for a Doom Mod in Minecraft with iron making the pistol and shotguns along with their respective ammo gunpowder unneeded due to Creeper killing rareity
@@ghoulbuster1 Doom fan wins because in almost every case, they're older
Love how DemonLord didn't just say in his notes "without cheating", but literally transcribed his accent to say "Cheatin'."
Karl, your videos will go down in history as some of the greatest in not only covering speed running but bringing in new people to the sport. They are fantastic and I really appreciate all the hard work you put into them.
This video is almost 12 minutes longer than the world record and i couldn’t be more happy karl made it this long
Welp congrats on ruining the surprise as to what the record is😃 and also why is it notable that the video is 12 minutes longer than the record🤔
I don't understand the point you're trying to make... what does the length compared to the record have to do with anything at all?... what were you trying to say?
@@SPFLDAngler that karl makes very detailed videos
People reading comments in a TH-cam video and then complaining about spoilers lol
@greatness greatness which is typical of youtube idiots lol
Random fact: Pecka is pronounced "petska" in Czech and it means stone (UK eng) or pit (US eng) of fruit. Just the hard part of fruit like an apricot or cherry.
O kurwa, kocham tego Radka
When I was a kid, I used to blast through these levels cause I was terrified of the demons. I didn't know I was technically speedrunning lol. Great trip down memory lane!
You are THE FIRST person to give me ( Dashiva ) partial credit for map07 pacifist. So I thank you! It started as an argument between speedrunners. It isn't possible. It'll never be done. It can't be done. I provided evidence that with a properly timed and setup SR50 run, it was 100% possible due to the way the engine was coded, and then stx-Vile took that, and literally the next day made it a reality (albeit with a rocket jump twist, which is all his), because he's a beast. I remember fighting the passionate fight that IT WAS TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE with more "realists" and going to bed satisfied that I had made my point in a fight I had NO stakes in. Waking up only to see what he had just done. It was an amazing day for me. Not because my proof motivated someone to make it real, but because it actually happened. map07-pacifist was thought impossible for decades. To be fair, I could never have done it on my own. I was a speed runner, yes, but not in his category. So he gave me a unique opportunity to unleash a "I told you so!" on the speed running community that I would not have been able to obtain on my own. Karl, thanks for being so thorough in your research as to acknowledge my contribution here. It isn't to my knowledge well documented, and Vile never mentioned me in his text file with his run, so that was impressive to me to see all these years later. Big Fan.
I hope you also had technical ideas for map 30 ;)
Me before hearing Karl's intro: :/
Me after hearing Karl's intro: :)
the greatest thing is the fact that all these speedruns have been dramatticaly increased in the last 10 years. I mean, before I met this channel, I was looking at Doom II with a little nostalgia: 'ah good old forgotten game, its good days are far away in the past'.
This channel shows that things are different. The history is being made right now. Doom 2 still lives and 472 000 suscribers are watching how people break new bounds of speedrun. This game still lives. Wow.
I've never seen such a diverse community in a video game. People from, Germany, Sweden, The Czech republic, Finland, norway, USA, hugary and more. Gotta love how the world unites over these things.
Check out Age of Empires II community, it is crazy global.
or Ocarina of Time
I noticed the exact same thing
@Hernando Malinche and that matters because?
@Hernando Malinche oh just...fuck off, really? As if it's meant to be taken literally
Better than summoning salt if you ask me, straight to the point, a little background information and in general a lack of "and then this and then that" segments.
Well done! Please do more of these such videos.
"And then Zeromaster casually drops X out of nowhere" Yeah that's surprisingly accurate :D
These are your best videos Karl. Doom, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark. Thank you for the content and the memories. I wish you luck with the Billy Mitchell.
Watched most of Looper's streams live. I have to say it was an incredible journey
Great timing on this video for me. I just started grinding about a month ago to prepare for doing full game UV Max runs, and I've been watching so many Doom videos. This was a great insight into the history with a lot of things I didn't know about. Great stuff!
Tecnhically, triple amount of shotgun barrels isn't it.
From one to three.. he’s right!!
Fun fact, the Pacifist and Tyson categories were added officially to Doom speedrunning by Adam Hegyi
Usually Hungarian names are somewhat absent from these speedrunning recap videos, good to see a few them pop up here. (Adam Hegyi, Istvan Pataki)
2001: Pick up movies to watch at Blockbuster, or bust out the VHS tapes to enjoy a classic.
2021: Use computer wizardry to trick your streaming website into thinking you are on the other side of the world to gain access to the movie you want to watch.
All fun and games until it gets your account banned for violating their TOS and you lose the subscription fee you paid to access it.
@@AnonyMous-lk7ziyou're losing money paying for the subscription whether you use a VPN or not lmfao. It's not like the company will give you back your money once you stop using their subscription service 😂. Apparently you don't understand how money, or subscriptions work.
When the Mass Effect background music came on I got nostalgic lol
Geez, anticipating and hearing both Looper's and ZeroMaster's introductions gave me chills. They sure are massive legends
It's always a little surreal to think that these games were being speedran when I was only a few months old, and 24 years later people are still improving the time.
The quality, research you do, the way you present all the info and so much more, is truly a notch above any others in regard to the speed running community. I personally think you are one of the best on TH-cam period.
After binging Decino for the past two weeks. This seems like a personal treat, not gonna lie.
Sub 17½ is such a huge accomplishment, implementing everything nearly perfectly for the entire run. There are so many tricks these days and you have to get them all (and the game itself) right without even a single moderate screw up to reach that time. The record on Looper's channel is truly a marvel to behold and one should go and appreciate the sheer level of skill and consistent execution on it. Can't recommend enough.
Imagine living in 1996 and being shown that 17:25 record.
Your videos about speedrunning history of are one of the best, if not the best, among it's kind. Thank you so much for delivering such high quality content. Please keep up the amazing work you've been developing. You are an absolute legend!
Karl upload s and it makes my day, I really enjoy the content, I love the history behind these awesome timeless games and the wonderful people that dedicated their time to it. Karl is a really good person player and content creator, he is humble and has no ego issues, he doesn't like to brag because he knows there are plenty of other people in the world who are pretty amazing too, he doesn't brag or act like he is the best he respects his fellow gamers and genuinely enjoys their achievements and is happy for them. Lol he did a video list of speedruns, and included himself on the list but never once said that it was him or mention much of the skill it required he kept it simple and if you didn't notice the name you never would have knew it was him and he also didn't fluff it up and make it sound like he was some sort of doom god lmao, great guy I love him, he actually IS an absolute legend!!
Can't be said enough how great you are at presenting speedrunning in a way that even people unfamiliar with the game can appreciate. ESPN has a hard time doing that with sports. History, background, and the impact of innovation are are done so well. You are crushing it.
It is funny to hear Czech names read by foreigners :D However you almost landed it perfectly actually, but still was funny to hear it :D Back to a point, another great video from you, I love your content and I always enjoy it. It must take such a long time to prepare the informations and data to make the video, I really do admire your work.
Hello Karl, we absolute legends here.
Looper and Zero Master are so awesome for having eternal battles in Doom speedruns. Good job guys!
So you are telling me Doom and Doom 2 were both landmark titles in the genre and are iconic even today? Can't wait for Doom 3 and knuckles.
My favorite thing about these types of videos is that they are like a documentary. Like, this is the same caliber as if there was a documentary on the history of Baseball pitcher's speed of throws and styles and how they changed over the century of the sport. The same type of niche appeal, same quality as any big brand documentary maker.
Big documentary companies really missed out on this whole niche market, but with really popular games like Doom or Super Mario they could still get a huge audience. It's just that all the executives in charge of making the decisions are probably old and clueless.
I'm getting Summoning Salt vibes and I like it
100%, i was going to say the same thing. This is a high quality video.
I think his videos are too long, and also too much pure data just "read from a paper" like every single time almost. This is a good middle ground with a little bit more backstory and perfect length being sub 30 min. But karl has always been absolutely (a legend) great doing videos like this with a perfect mix.
@@ottojagenstedt9740 ig you’re just not the audience Summoning Salt has catered to
@@hybridgaming8341 extremely
@@ottojagenstedt9740 "just read from a paper" I hate to break this too you, but a good majority of TH-camrs write out a script for their TH-cam videos and what they are gonna say... which is basically reading from a paper...and yes Karl is one of those youtubers.... yeah I don't think you know what you're talking about lol.
amazing work karl, love you
@@snippledipple9515 Rude
@snipple dipple Acknowledge that you do nothing but reply under people’s comments with the original phrases “No one asked” or “No one cares” because you have nothing better to do :/
You're an absolute legend, Karl Jobst! And I'll tell you why exactly. Initially, speedrunning was not something I was interested in, far from it. But your storytelling talent and skills quickly won me over. You are the sort of guy that can make anything interesting. I wish my teachers at school were like you.
Actually insane how far the WR went down by, from over an hour to 17:29, that might be one of the most drastic changes I've ever seen for a game in speedrunning.
"Sit back and relax" I can't relax.
From the hype?
I’m always itching for your next upload and wonder why it takes so long but after watching this video I understand. You put great detail into it and time looking through so much of everyone’s runs. You are an absolute legend!!!
Year 2050 : The newly discovered glitch "ultra void gliding" has managed to lower the D2All UV-Speed record below 15 minutes
I wouldn’t be surprised!
I've done it, I have achieved *ULTRA GLIDING*
Great video! I didnt see loopers 17:29 on stream, but I was there to witness a fail of a run that was on pace for an astonishing 17:13...
Ouch. On map 30?
@@pirx9798 yeah... The run ended up being a 17:39, 3 seconds off his PB at the time
*"Doom isn't technically 3D"*
Yes it is, it has a Z-Axis and everything, it just skips checking for it in a number of circumstances, but it still frequently comes up regularly in gameplay.
Heretic literally has a jetpack item, but we're going to ignore that because I want to feel smart by saying "two point five deeeeee".
@@XenoSpyro There is something weird in duke nukem where your environment changes depending on how you move but isn't necessarily consistent. So you can have an air vent leading to somwhere and when you go to the same location outside of the airvent there is just a wide open field or something. Or a pillar where you do not return to the same place after circling around it for 360 degrees. I always thought those things were related to the term 2.5D but not sure the term even means anything. Maybe it just means "2D sprites in a 3D setting"
@@XenoSpyro that's not what 2.5D means, and good job on that strawman
@@commanderleo Ive seen people call doom 2.5D before, for the record, levels are stored in 2D, the game is in 3D, and the monsters were infinitely tall on purpouse to get better performance. Its why you can cross under missiles because their collision checks are cheaper
@@thoughtpolease7183 Build engine uses portals to simulate room-over-room, of course you can use them to make inconsistencies like that
Love your videos. You were the person who made speedrunning actually interesting for me.
Everybody gangsta till the Doom 2 speedruner upgrades his pc
Loving listening to your videos while cooking. Ive listenied to a few of them multiple times. The perfect thing for a gamer to listen to while cooking.
Love the fact you mention the names of old skool legend whos contributions would be long forgotten to the masses. Its a great way to pay homage and at the same time level up peoples knowledge.
Dude, you have a real talent for this. We're lucky to get such amzing content for free.
Thank you!
I was already excited when I saw you were planing to release a new video about Doom today, but i couldnt guess itll be this topic. Ive been watching loopers livestreams in which he played the category for about four months and saw him progress in it. Its the first time ive seen the things, which will probably be shown in the video, myself before watching it, what makes me insanely excited about it. Thumbs up for putting this category in a video of yours!
Hey, if you're missing the "home- were finally landing song" let me help ya:
wooooon
WOOOOOOOOOON
Nice video. Did watch the 17.29 live and thought it deserved more attention. Great work karl!!!
The absoute legend is back!
Legendary content, as always! Had the honor to witness Loopers first sub 18 live. Watching all that grind really puts into perspective all the hard work that goes into these runs.
You get sloshed surpisingly fast if you drink whenever Karl says "of all time" or "ever".
Take a swig every time you hear "he achieved... _this run_ ."
Why not stay in the theme and take a shot on every "speed"?
ZeroMaster will be back with a sub 17 before the end of the year.
I really want to see a history video for Nightmare as well because that is one I know a lot of old players that fell out of the scene claimed was impossible. When I told my dad a guy beat it in 24 minutes, he said there was no way. I also really want to see how top UV runners hold up in Nightmare. What makes ZeroMaster so great is he's the king of nightmare difficulty and many of the strats he's developed for that make the UV runs so much more competitive.
I'm honestly craving a comprehensive history on significant level strategies and overall exploits.
I was feeling so downbeat today until I saw this video and now I feel like an absolute legend. The effort put to DOOM 2 and the whole franchise overall is incredible, one of the best communities out there and I'm glad Karl brings this documentary of how a game that came out so long ago, still has players and lot of relevance in the speedrunning community
*Posted 1 minute ago*
Comments: Wow excellent video Karl, great work as usual
Bruh you haven't even began to fully watch it yet
You just know it's going to be good.
tru actually
We dont need to.
My uncle showed me doom back then in 90s. The old big diskets. Now he is sixty and he is impressed that ppl still play it :)
"Me being an absolute genius though"
Great line. And I agree.
This one sparks joy.
Not only do I really enjoy the game, but your form of presentation is amazing.
Last time I was this early Karl was not a Minecraft TH-cam.
This is a classic progression video by Karl Jobst:
-The progression of the runs is astonishing.
-He said "[insert player] would achieve...this run."
-He used Unused Song 2 from The Flintstones after showing footage of the final run.
-The final time shown in the video is absolutely fucking godlike.
But this time, it's different. Because the other 2 videos like this (the one about The Chasm and the other one about The Slipgate Complex) had final times that physically cannot be beaten (32 and 19 respectively). This one however, looks like it could maybe eventually perhaps possibly even go below 17:00. Maybe. We'll just have to wait and see...
*Summoning Salt wants to know your location*
I really appreciate how much work you do to make videos like THIS ONE. Thank you for giving us that piece of nostalgy and information, can't wait for next ones
It is odd to think about how old these games are now
And still so damn playable. The original Doom will be 30 years old in two years and it still gets the adrenaline going!
@@yetanotheruser1989 Ikr I played through Doom 1 in DOSBOX a couple days ago and I got completely hooked
@@fojisan2398 It is extremely recommendable that you use a proper source port though, trust me it will make the experience much more enjoyable. And there are many ports and settings that don't sacrifice the vanilla feel of classic Doom.
@@autumn_of_thought Oh, I know. I generally use GZDoom and Prboom Plus. I just played it in DOSBOX as a sort of rite of passage.
@@fojisan2398 Sorry for the misunderstanding then. That's really cool, I'm surprised you managed to get it to run at all, especially the sound. My only experience with Doom's vanilla engine was through the Depths of Doom Trilogy compilation, but that was in the 90's, when I was just an unappreciative wean lol.
Looper: breaks the world record after 4 months of back-breaking grinding
Also him: i fucking did it *laughs casually as if it took him no effort*
Demonlord walked so Looper, Elim and Zero Master could run
Karl thanks for getting into watching and following the speed running community. Guys like you and Bismuth and summoning salt, are the true Legends!
I always look forwards to these videos. There is something very satisfying about them. The pacing alongside recognition of technical excellence and creativity.
Doom is my favorite series to watch speedrunning content from and you're my favorite guy to watch speedrunning deep dive/analysis content from. So, it's like a double whammy of happiness when you release a new Doom video! :D
I’m having a bad day. A really bad few weeks actually. Being called an Absolute Legend unironically cheered me up :)
Back to doom content, my day is complete
Anybody else like the way Karl says "record"? Makes everything seem epic and important.
Bet: Zero Master will be mentioned 8 to 10 times in this video
A drinking game might be a bad idea here. I'll let you know afterwards.
@@tkmjees *13 Zero Masters later
"Ffffffuuuuuuuuuuu............."
@@tkmjees Thanks I lost the track of it
Been checking for this video almost daily after seeing the post, glad to see that it turned out as incredible as I expected!
pulled a summoning salt right there
The war to sub-18 was absolutely epic! Three speedrunners pushing each other to improve their times it's unusual, and it's a thing that just could happen on Doom community.
Thanks for bringing back Doom to the cannel, Karl!
Thanks for helping me stay clean (for two years now), make content of my own, and keep my brain occupied when I start to feel those old anxieties creeping in on me. I’m engaged and living in my own house now, and your content has kept me going during some of the hardest parts of my battle. Thank you Karl Jobst! Awesome vid!
People are talking about how much they liked this 30 minute video and it's been out for 7 minutes lol
Yo 7 minutes went like crazy
Man time really flies
@@Neentensev XD
There was documentary, rockumentary ... and now doomentary !
Great job Karl ! Thanx
Feel like the channel should be named SpeedrunHistorian. This is like the narrated wikipedia of speedrunning. Love your content, mate ❤
Thank you for making this video! I'm a Doom veteran that started way back in 1994. I have never attempted any type of Doom speed running before even though I would love to try it. The problem is...I have medical issues that effect my memory and while I'm a damn good player there's no way I could remember all of those precise movements. I have however placed times in terrorist hunts on expert with my team in Rainbow Six Vegas 2 on the Xbox 360. The last time I checked we were still tied for first place but...we did it with only two players the other top 10 teams were full at 4 people. When we tied first place we were practicing and it...just happened. That's why we were not running a full team.
Addendum- I sure wish Ubisoft would do a remaster of the two Rainbow Six Vegas games as I would try for it again. ;)
The moment saw the video being 29 mins, I already know it's gonna be good
I didn't know a thing about Doom speedrunning before this channel but I can't get enough of these
Same!
Haven't even watched the video yet but I know it'll kick ass
I will never get tired of the Mass Effect galaxy map music.