If you put the volume up and listen carefully at 3:09-3:12, there seems to be that rattling engine sound many have complained about in the WRX 265. I refer you to ericflg's video of the engine rattle. Did anyone hear it too?
0-60 is a weird metric. The WRX (of old) had a 5-speed gearbox; you could hit 60 mph in 2nd gear. The STI requires a 2nd to 3rd shift, hence the slower times...
The one thing I don't like about the 09 5-door is the trunk space is almost 20 cubic ft smaller than the previous models (non hatch). I own a 2004 WRX Wagon and I use the wagon/trunk a lot. It has around 61 cubic feet of space with the seats down, and this 09 only has 44 cubic feet. I went to check out the 09 in person and the trunk entrance is wider (tested it by putting my dog crate in the back) compared with the 04-07 wagons, but the length is a lot shorter behind the back seats.
For all of you crybabies moaning because the WRX doesn't handle like it used to, this thing will handle like its on rails with a few hundred bucks in Suspension parts from Perrin or aftermarket. Looks are subjective, but this generation has a nicer interior than prev Gen and PLENTY of potential to be as good or better than the STI of this generation. Talk about "glass is half-empty" thinking...
It's a lot more mainstream for Subaru standards, but it's definitely not mainstream by anyone else's standards. They've shifted from old-school style import sedans to more practical hatches. Considering Subie made so many wagons, I see this as a good blend of modern style with historical practicality.
I agree, the new wrx/sti look just like everything else on the road. I with they had kept the old body and just updated the engine/suspension like they did.
hey man i wanted to ask since im ganna buy the subaru wrx i wanted to know is the sport shift real? some say i can switch between manual and automatic transition but some say no its just manual could u plz give me some info thx in advance
The Subaru WRX & Mitsu Ralliart have such great designs. There AWD, turbocharged, & have good interior & trunk space like any average cars. I would take these cars over the Spec V & Si. Those cars are good looking, reliable, & fun to drive, but lack the speed & potential of the rally cars. The 1 thing they have over the rally cars is gas mileage. I would take the WRX over the Ralliart b/c it has 28 more h/p, gets the about the same MPG, & comes w/ a stick.
@AlexanderBlueAvenue I agree with you. They are for two different buyers and all the performance in the world won't get you around a track faster as most can't drive. Takes years to learn. I'm a family guy car enthusiast. STi is too rough a ride on highway and front axle brembo's are 2000 bucks or more. Sti is a great car. I'm not sure what a better platform, better interior is? Both are nearly the same for 2011. Brembo's 4piston are great, but front axle alone is 2000 bucks to replace.
I'm gonna be buying a new car in a month or two, and I think it's come down to one of these or a 2011 Mustang. For 25,000 in the Stang you get better seats, better brakes and skid pad numbers, 305 HP V6, 6 MPG better Highway and 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and IMO better looks. But with the WRX you get more cargo space, a better back seat, close to the same performance though not quite as good, and AWD for the long snowy winters. Both are very different cars but are high on the bang for buck list.
@AlexanderBlueAvenue True. But Rex owners don't all want a 24 hour a day track car. WRX with mods does sti numbers at mosport every year. I'm not sure where you live..but check out mosport this summer. Plenty of wrx's are doing sti numbers for no so expensive upgrades.
if only I could find one ; in black or midnight blue , manual with fog lights and navigation, and bone stock unmodified for a decent price. why are these so hard to find ?!
Had the 2008 2.5 I non turbo. Purchased new for 19k out the door. Dead at 115k with routine maintenance. A year after payoff a/c clutch failed $500 needed manifold back exhaust $1500.00 Head gaskets failed $2200 2nd clutch throw out bearing squealing $1000.00 service advisor also stated entire steering system was about to collapse. " frame mounts dry rotted. Mind you that I religiously followed dealer maintenance program! Service manager stated "Ew that was a bad year" Had a pen in hand to buy the Impreza Sport fully loaded $26,000.00 until I over heard Dealership Sales manager laughing at what a Peice of shit my trade was and Is to be expected from white trash that can't afford maintenance. Which I never missed a payment nor oil change and service was performed entirely by them. So I pulled out my billfold showing 60+ receipts. Told him to suck my $%&# and went across the street and bought a 2015 Honda CRV ex. Stay away from anything 2004-Present with 2.5 engine or the STI 2007-present.!
3 year 36,000 mile warranty. Problems started at 65,000 miles. Former 98 Subaru started minor issues at 170,000. Sorry never had a car fall apart so fast. Our 93 made it to 215k before needing an exhaust
I guess I just don't see why they removed so much trunk space. The measurements of the exterior are almost identical between years, yet they lost a lot of trunk space with the 08 and 09 models. I'm going to wait until the 2010 models come out before I move up to a newer model. I'm a subaru addict now and LOVE the WRX! Just give me more trunk space! Give me a real wagon again!
5:40 Those wheels don't spin hardly at all. On my 2008 WRX, I but on wider tires than stock with MSR 045 rims and I can spin all the way up to about 25-30mph in a dry and warm environment. If you did the same to a 2009+ WRX, I can't imagine how much quicker it could be! :p
2009 and after wrx are insane.. the gc8's were made especially the 99/00, the 2001 - 2008 wrx were crap IMO, all the STi's were amazing. now the wrx 2009 and up are straight line speed with the STI, expect the STi gets lsd, better tranny, more power/torque, suspension, clutch.. pretty much almost everything related to performance.. great car
@06RallyBlue Insideline tested the 2011 WRX with a 0-60 in 5.3 sec and 1/4 mile time of 13.8 @ 98.2. I owned both cars and know the difference between them. The only people bragging about how the WRX is the same as the STi are the ones that wish they had an STi or could afford one because it's the sad truth.
ok i just watched the motor week 2008 sti review and it show the sti 0-60 in 5.4 vs 09 wrx 0-60 in 5.0 and the sti using brembo brakes stops from 60 to 0 in 122 vs. 09 wrx 60 to 0 in 118ft wtf seems crazy!?
@jakubgt1 It is as fast as the WRX STI through the 0-60 and 1/4 it has to do with gearing, Most people agree 1 less shift to get to 60 is the reason why its a tad faster. Oh and these cars are capable of under 5 sec 0-60 there are plenty of videos on youtube to attest to that.
Maybe you should read up on the problem yourself. Like I just posted, it was only a problem for the early early production line of the 09's (the one's off the line in 2008). Subaru has fixed the issue at the production line and has fixed the problem on all cars that were sold with the issue.
@06RallyBlue Please post stock STI doing 4.5 seconds 0-60. Road and track timed them 2x and wrx was faster. I like both cars, but no STI in 2010, or 2011 has ever done 4.5 0-60 consistently.
The sound isnt a spun bearing. I have 83000 sweet ass miles on an 02 and it has made the horizontal 4 rattle you hear from the time i pulled it off the lot. that rattle is a the normal engine sound. A spun bearing is much louder and much more hollow sounding. You never have to wonder if you've lost your engine in these cars.
@06RallyBlue Subaru claimed 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. I can also assure these cars will not do 0-60 under 5 seconds stock. I just laugh when people say the 09+ WRX is just as fast as an STi. WRX: 265hp STI: 305hp /end
The 08' WRX does have a turbo. I took this from the NASIOC forums (forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1858911): "The turbine and compressor are the same size dimensionally as the STi's VF39/43/48. The compressor cover is of the LGT/+08WRX fitment variety(2 bolt flange pointing at 12o'clock). It is NOT the same turbo as any model year STi however wheel dimensions & performance potential are the same as a stock STi turbo."
@jakubgt1 Ok I am talking about Stock to Stock mind you. And the WRX IS AS FAST as the STI. I pulled some #'s off C&D 09 WRX (same as 10) 0 to 60 mph: 4.7 sec 0 to 100 mph: 12.9 sec Top speed 142 mph 1/4-mile: 13.5 sec @ 102 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft MPG 18/25 skid 0.87 g STI 08 0 to 60 mph: 5.1 sec 0 to 100 mph: 13.0 sec Top speed 151 mph ¼-mile: 13.6 sec @ 102 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft MPG 17/23 skid 0.92 g This tells me WRX>STI for the Cash Difference Bro
@shossni Um...sure they do. 5.0 is about right for this car. If you want to buy one and do redline clutch drops to drop a tenth or two, be my guest, but most people don't drive like that, and they don't test like that.
If you knew what you were talking about then more people would listen. Yep, they had a few that had spun bearings, they were the early production line of the 09's (basically the ones that were off the line in late 2008). The problem has been fixed and if you bought one of these early production cars Subaru fixed it for free. Nice trolling though. Obviously you haven ever driven one and don't intend to.
they offer an Automatic with a sport mode when where u can shift it manually, its nothing special....if u leav e it in gear long enough the car will shift it up for u
@jakubgt1 The WRX couldn't possilbly be faster. Theres a 40 h/p difference. And why would Subaru make the cheaper model WRX faster & better than the more expensive STI? People are crazy. 0-60 isn't everything. Cars spin tires under heavy acceleration, especially w/ alot of h/p. If u drag race both models in a 1/2 run, the STI would be so far ahead.
@1987throwback A WRX will never be as fast as an STi or anywhere near as fast. The difference is even greater when both cars are modded. Ask any WRX owner, they will tell you the STI is a different beast. Stop being ignorant and listening to these bias sources. Its like comparing the ralliart lancer to the Evo.
and you know 2009 wrx is an object failer? 2010 it come back to 2008.That too much horse power destroy engine and gear box check trugth about car wrx 2009
Just bought mine today! Dream car since I was 8. Work hard and get what you want :)
i bought mine yesterday, couldn't be happier:)
I bought my 2016 WRX, I wanted one since 8th grade, and I love it!!
You still have it 3 years later?
@@claudio_wrx but... Mathematically speaking that car was't out when you were in 8th grade
@@RepresentReviews well I always wanted a WRX, didnt care what year it was, but math wise you are right.
If you put the volume up and listen carefully at 3:09-3:12, there seems to be that rattling engine sound many have complained about in the WRX 265.
I refer you to ericflg's video of the engine rattle.
Did anyone hear it too?
0-60 is a weird metric. The WRX (of old) had a 5-speed gearbox; you could hit 60 mph in 2nd gear. The STI requires a 2nd to 3rd shift, hence the slower times...
Get the 09 guys! I love it. And then go stage 2. You will be surprised on the power.
WOW!!! I use to love watching this show!! Before I got my first car this was part of my saturday morning
I absolutely love the design of this car!!!!
The one thing I don't like about the 09 5-door is the trunk space is almost 20 cubic ft smaller than the previous models (non hatch).
I own a 2004 WRX Wagon and I use the wagon/trunk a lot. It has around 61 cubic feet of space with the seats down, and this 09 only has 44 cubic feet.
I went to check out the 09 in person and the trunk entrance is wider (tested it by putting my dog crate in the back) compared with the 04-07 wagons, but the length is a lot shorter behind the back seats.
nice review!
"We're glad to have you with us!" That's classic!
For all of you crybabies moaning because the WRX doesn't handle like it used to, this thing will handle like its on rails with a few hundred bucks in Suspension parts from Perrin or aftermarket. Looks are subjective, but this generation has a nicer interior than prev Gen and PLENTY of potential to be as good or better than the STI of this generation. Talk about "glass is half-empty" thinking...
how is a 5 door AWD hatchback not bought for practicality? it certainly factored into me decision to get one
the turbo may be the same size as the one found in the sti, but it is not the same turbo MotorWeek...
its the vf34 that was in the ej207 in 2003
Ben Chesterman no it’s the vf52 buddy lmao
It's a lot more mainstream for Subaru standards, but it's definitely not mainstream by anyone else's standards.
They've shifted from old-school style import sedans to more practical hatches. Considering Subie made so many wagons, I see this as a good blend of modern style with historical practicality.
Anyone notice the rod nock when doing the brake test when comes to a stop you can hear it when it starts going again. Hmm
killswitchnotengage Nope...
killswitchnotengage yep at 3:08
C Powell Still didnt hear it?
+killswitchnotengage that's the driver cranking the engine again after he stalled it.
+beatles5445 Nope, you can still hear it when he's moving again. I owned 3 Imprezas, I can hear rod knock from a mile.
3.07 who is knocking? Omg!
I agree, the new wrx/sti look just like everything else on the road. I with they had kept the old body and just updated the engine/suspension like they did.
@normalais its because of the sti's six speed. in order to hit 60 in the sti you have to shift to third while the wrx pulls sixty in 2nd gear.
i love the hatchback one
What is the stock 1/4 mille time?
what is the 1/4 mille time
finally a good in depth review on this new wrx. I picked mine up a couple weeks ago and am in love. i will never buy a none-subaru again.
Still got it?
@@ismaelgomez2158 no I don’t unfortunately. Sold it due to life changes
hey man i wanted to ask since im ganna buy the subaru wrx i wanted to know is the sport shift real? some say i can switch between manual and automatic transition but some say no its just manual could u plz give me some info thx in advance
Feels like a commercial from the 90's
The little soo-bar-oooo. WOW
The Subaru WRX & Mitsu Ralliart have such great designs. There AWD, turbocharged, & have good interior & trunk space like any average cars. I would take these cars over the Spec V & Si. Those cars are good looking, reliable, & fun to drive, but lack the speed & potential of the rally cars. The 1 thing they have over the rally cars is gas mileage. I would take the WRX over the Ralliart b/c it has 28 more h/p, gets the about the same MPG, & comes w/ a stick.
@AlexanderBlueAvenue I agree with you. They are for two different buyers and all the performance in the world won't get you around a track faster as most can't drive. Takes years to learn. I'm a family guy car enthusiast. STi is too rough a ride on highway and front axle brembo's are 2000 bucks or more. Sti is a great car. I'm not sure what a better platform, better interior is? Both are nearly the same for 2011. Brembo's 4piston are great, but front axle alone is 2000 bucks to replace.
90's are here again
spun bearing 3:08!
is this subaru better than renault megane rs?
@willneverstop that wasn't a stall. that was the defective engine knocking. There was a recall.
I'm gonna be buying a new car in a month or two, and I think it's come down to one of these or a 2011 Mustang. For 25,000 in the Stang you get better seats, better brakes and skid pad numbers, 305 HP V6, 6 MPG better Highway and 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and IMO better looks. But with the WRX you get more cargo space, a better back seat, close to the same performance though not quite as good, and AWD for the long snowy winters. Both are very different cars but are high on the bang for buck list.
I Just bought one. Traded my MY08 in on it. Worth it.
@06RallyBlue
From bias sources, it's normally around 5.4 sec
@AlexanderBlueAvenue True. But Rex owners don't all want a 24 hour a day track car. WRX with mods does sti numbers at mosport every year. I'm not sure where you live..but check out mosport this summer. Plenty of wrx's are doing sti numbers for no so expensive upgrades.
I have owned Mitsubishi, Dodge, Ford, Mazda VW but never Subie, what are some opinions on reliability, repair costs etc from actual owners?
@shossni there getting better
if only I could find one ; in black or midnight blue , manual with fog lights and navigation, and bone stock unmodified for a decent price. why are these so hard to find ?!
I wonder that myself....really weird how little there are of these. Maybe because of how much people hated the narrowbody?
I'm flexing but I bought that exact car last week
Flügel der Freiheit same and the narrow body hatch with mudflaps looks so good.
@MegaSuzukiboy yes it is.
I currently own a 08 WRX, and I should be driving a 2010 WRX limited in a month time.
did they purposely stall at 3:06?.... listen to when the engine starts back up
Awesome review. Makes me feel good knowing I own an 08 :) haha it's all good. Still gotta love Subaru for listening to it's fans.
@mhn19 It's all-wheel drive.
Had the 2008 2.5 I non turbo. Purchased new for 19k out the door. Dead at 115k with routine maintenance. A year after payoff a/c clutch failed $500 needed manifold back exhaust $1500.00 Head gaskets failed $2200 2nd clutch throw out bearing squealing $1000.00 service advisor also stated entire steering system was about to collapse. " frame mounts dry rotted. Mind you that I religiously followed dealer maintenance program! Service manager stated "Ew that was a bad year" Had a pen in hand to buy the Impreza Sport fully loaded $26,000.00 until I over heard Dealership Sales manager laughing at what a Peice of shit my trade was and Is to be expected from white trash that can't afford maintenance. Which I never missed a payment nor oil change and service was performed entirely by them. So I pulled out my billfold showing 60+ receipts. Told him to suck my $%&# and went across the street and bought a 2015 Honda CRV ex. Stay away from anything 2004-Present with 2.5 engine or the STI 2007-present.!
You just had bad luck buddy. I would of took care of you if you had any issues with your Subaru
3 year 36,000 mile warranty. Problems started at 65,000 miles. Former 98 Subaru started minor issues at 170,000. Sorry never had a car fall apart so fast. Our 93 made it to 215k before needing an exhaust
My 08 STI died at 63k miles. Didn't stop me from buying my 2015 though. Can't fix stupid I guess.
2008 wrx with 100k on it still going strong
I guess I just don't see why they removed so much trunk space. The measurements of the exterior are almost identical between years, yet they lost a lot of trunk space with the 08 and 09 models.
I'm going to wait until the 2010 models come out before I move up to a newer model. I'm a subaru addict now and LOVE the WRX! Just give me more trunk space! Give me a real wagon again!
5:40 Those wheels don't spin hardly at all. On my 2008 WRX, I but on wider tires than stock with MSR 045 rims and I can spin all the way up to about 25-30mph in a dry and warm environment. If you did the same to a 2009+ WRX, I can't imagine how much quicker it could be! :p
didn't the 2008 wrx have 265 horses? And when they tested the 2008 Sti they got 0-60 in 5,6 seconds, but the less powerful wrx gets 5 seconds?
4 door or 5 ?
2009 and after wrx are insane..
the gc8's were made especially the 99/00, the 2001 - 2008 wrx were crap IMO, all the STi's were amazing.
now the wrx 2009 and up are straight line speed with the STI, expect the STi gets lsd, better tranny, more power/torque, suspension, clutch.. pretty much almost everything related to performance.. great car
@06RallyBlue
Insideline tested the 2011 WRX with a 0-60 in 5.3 sec and 1/4 mile time of 13.8 @ 98.2. I owned both cars and know the difference between them. The only people bragging about how the WRX is the same as the STi are the ones that wish they had an STi or could afford one because it's the sad truth.
I liked some of the older front ends but this one is sooooo ugly what were they thinking. with adiferent front end I might have considered getting one
ok i just watched the motor week 2008 sti review and it show the sti 0-60 in 5.4 vs 09 wrx 0-60 in 5.0 and the sti using brembo brakes stops from 60 to 0 in 122 vs. 09 wrx 60 to 0 in 118ft wtf seems crazy!?
@1986GreatYear
yeah i'm going to go back this week and try to get that deal hahaha wish me luck
@jakubgt1 It is as fast as the WRX STI through the 0-60 and 1/4 it has to do with gearing, Most people agree 1 less shift to get to 60 is the reason why its a tad faster. Oh and these cars are capable of under 5 sec 0-60 there are plenty of videos on youtube to attest to that.
@3:08
Am I trippen or did it sound like it had a rod knock ???😂😂😂
I don't like how carbon footprint replaced quietness.
Insurance?
Maybe you should read up on the problem yourself. Like I just posted, it was only a problem for the early early production line of the 09's (the one's off the line in 2008). Subaru has fixed the issue at the production line and has fixed the problem on all cars that were sold with the issue.
doubt it. i'm still in the process of buying one and the best deal i got so far was 26500 on a 2010.
i always thought that wrx was a 2.0 and sti was 2.5 but ig they are both the 2.5
maybe fuel ping?
5:40 ..power of RWD
@06RallyBlue Please post stock STI doing 4.5 seconds 0-60. Road and track timed them 2x and wrx was faster. I like both cars, but no STI in 2010, or 2011 has ever done 4.5 0-60 consistently.
I'd take the hatchback over the sedan. Good job Subaru
The sound isnt a spun bearing. I have 83000 sweet ass miles on an 02 and it has made the horizontal 4 rattle you hear from the time i pulled it off the lot. that rattle is a the normal engine sound. A spun bearing is much louder and much more hollow sounding. You never have to wonder if you've lost your engine in these cars.
maybe you can wait for the z28 if your into that sort of car. But the interior may be worse in a chevy.
@06RallyBlue
Subaru claimed 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. I can also assure these cars will not do 0-60 under 5 seconds stock. I just laugh when people say the 09+ WRX is just as fast as an STi.
WRX: 265hp
STI: 305hp
/end
prius are really quiet next time try one of those!
so the 08 does not have turbo?
The 08' WRX does have a turbo. I took this from the NASIOC forums (forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1858911):
"The turbine and compressor are the same size dimensionally as the STi's VF39/43/48. The compressor cover is of the LGT/+08WRX fitment variety(2 bolt flange pointing at 12o'clock). It is NOT the same turbo as any model year STi however wheel dimensions & performance potential are the same as a stock STi turbo."
All WRX's have turbo
4 cylinder couldn't do 5 seconds flat , without a turbo
@jakubgt1 Ok I am talking about Stock to Stock mind you. And the WRX IS AS FAST as the STI. I pulled some #'s off C&D
09 WRX (same as 10)
0 to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
0 to 100 mph: 12.9 sec
Top speed 142 mph
1/4-mile: 13.5 sec @ 102 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft
MPG 18/25
skid 0.87 g
STI 08
0 to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
0 to 100 mph: 13.0 sec
Top speed 151 mph
¼-mile: 13.6 sec @ 102 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft
MPG 17/23
skid 0.92 g
This tells me WRX>STI for the Cash Difference Bro
gettin mine 3 weeks...
@kwazyxbboi---you should take it, mine out the door was $27,400.
i wouldn't know.
@shossni Um...sure they do. 5.0 is about right for this car. If you want to buy one and do redline clutch drops to drop a tenth or two, be my guest, but most people don't drive like that, and they don't test like that.
real world 5.5
Sti is a good dd drive one and you will see
STILL better than Focus ST or Mazda Speed3 ...
shoot, u mines as well add the SPT package while its at the dealer for another $2,000
I can hear michael jackson in the background music
Here in 2023, you can still buy a new WRX. As for the Mitsubishi Evo, well…
If you knew what you were talking about then more people would listen.
Yep, they had a few that had spun bearings, they were the early production line of the 09's (basically the ones that were off the line in late 2008). The problem has been fixed and if you bought one of these early production cars Subaru fixed it for free.
Nice trolling though. Obviously you haven ever driven one and don't intend to.
Lol 13 psi. My '03 hits 17-18.
i wonder how much motorweek got paid by subaru to not mention the spun bearing
should be a well made car, with boring interiors and if u swallow the looks, it should be worth it.
they offer an Automatic with a sport mode when where u can shift it manually, its nothing special....if u leav e it in gear long enough the car will shift it up for u
Shout out to MC hammer's 2 Legit 2 Quit, for the background beat in this video. XD
Anybody else hear a spun rod bearing at 3:09 ? lmao....
@jakubgt1 The WRX couldn't possilbly be faster. Theres a 40 h/p difference. And why would Subaru make the cheaper model WRX faster & better than the more expensive STI? People are crazy. 0-60 isn't everything. Cars spin tires under heavy acceleration, especially w/ alot of h/p. If u drag race both models in a 1/2 run, the STI would be so far ahead.
So , the same car , more powerful , faster , 7 years later costs the same ????????
You wanna get up and jam?
If I would have bought a 2008 Subaru wrx and found out that the 2009 model had an extra 40 hp. I would have shot myself in the foot
@1987throwback
A WRX will never be as fast as an STi or anywhere near as fast. The difference is even greater when both cars are modded. Ask any WRX owner, they will tell you the STI is a different beast.
Stop being ignorant and listening to these bias sources. Its like comparing the ralliart lancer to the Evo.
this car only comes in manual
and you know 2009 wrx is an object failer? 2010 it come back to 2008.That too much horse power destroy engine and gear box
check trugth about car wrx 2009
Ugly in 2009 still Ugly in 2019.
you looking at a mirror?
Considering 90% of cars sold today have this exact body shape, it's absolutely aged well.
Yeah but mitsubishi's are shit.
Junk