Thanks for watching JustDisc! Part 2 of our forehand series is now complete! If you haven't watched it, you can find it here! - th-cam.com/video/OwNVsQ1_sBo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QUhxh3mx-GH9SVi3
Great video! Only one disagreement. I'm a 99% forehand player. When beginning, I understand the thought of understable discs to learn proper form. Just like backhand. However, the disconnect is learning proper form as you go. If we all waited to have form from either side, we probably would have quit by now. I started with over stable discs. Then as my form and knowledge improved. I then went to understable discs to learn how to hyzer flip a disc. If I had started with unstable discs I would have quit by now. If you're off just a hair there's no telling where you disc is going. VERY frustrating, which is why I believe most people give up on their forehand. Because I had gained some form with overstable discs, throwing understable wasn't as frustrating. I now keep a few understable discs in my bag for flips and flexes. I hope this makes sense. Oh and never serve the pizza.
One thing, I've struggled with is proper wrist motion, combined with grip. I can't find a grip and I can hold on to effectively and not do the serve the pizza thing, to get it to fly relatively ok. If I try to use my wrist more the disc just super goes nose and wobbles like crazy. Rotating my grip for the wrist motion to lower, I feel like I don't have a good grip on it at this point and I find myself just literally dropping the disc a good 30% of the time. Any one else struggle with this concept that has a bit of advice combining the two? I do have small hands, wrist and finger strength issues. But yet my backhand doesn't seem to suffer because of those, As in I can launch a hyzerflip a solid 380+ on the course. But yet my forehand, I'm struggling to get out to the 100ft mark with any sort of accuracy.
Thank you so much!! It was #2 for me. And that disc wobbling and burning out…that was me. I’m a beginner and had given up on a forehand. But I just went out to a practice field, loaded the disc into my palm and the discs flew 88, 110 and 130 feet. My last throw was 165 feet. Thanks again!
Please try to keep in mind that you shouldn't be throwing full power shots with a hyzer flip. Doing so strains your elbow and the longevity of your sidearm/forehand will be drastically shortened.
Pretty good tips. I’m forehand dominant. I would only nit pick a couple of things. One is starting with Neutral mids. Too many people will struggle way too much with them and give up early. I suggest 6-8 speed slightly overstable discs. Servo is my top pick. The other is the wrist flick at the end. That should be happening as a result of the rest of the kinetic sequence being set up properly. If you try to force it, you’ll probably end up turning your discs over a lot and missing lines left.
Aaahh... when got my mako3 everything just started to make sense. Before i was using understable fairway drivers and they were goinge everywhere. I always recommend neutral mids for people interested in the sport.
Great video! If my shoulder didn't scream at me on big power drives, I would definitely use the forehand more. I use it for scramble shots and approaches when needed.
Thanks chainraider, always nice to hear from you! Not that this is the case with you, but lots of players trying to forehand don’t utilize their lower half as well, straining their shoulder (my dad is a good example). Part 2 should help clarify the use of your body, and who knows, it might help! 🙌
Love to hear it! We’ve always wanted to do a forehandseries, but wanted to make sure we understood everything before providing information. Same thing applies to the backhand, which is something I’ve been working on the last 3 years. Long story short, it’s definitely getting there, and we’ll eventually get that information out as well 👍
Never been able to throw forehand, always hurts my shoulder when trying, I’m 59 and was a plasterer for 25 years so shoulder pain is now common, but I’m totally ok with the back hand throws, so I’m really going to follow these steps to see if I can improve 👍
Hope you can figure something out that works for your body. Honestly, try the throwing the baseball idea and skipping a stone across water. Best part about the whole “throwing like a baseball throw” is that it not only teacher you the correct arm and wrist plain, but also teaches you how to engage your lower half 👍
I'm pretty 50/50 between backhand and forehand but my forehand goes a good 75' further than backhand. It's interesting that it's your shoulder that feels it most. Whenever I feel soreness or fatigue from forehand, it's a tennis-elbow sensation or even in my chest muscles, like I was doing pec fly's. I'm not a pro by any means and you know your body best. That being said, whenever people hurt their shoulder I tend to think that their elbow isn't close enough to their body when throwing which adds a ton of strain to your shoulder socket. Try focusing on leading with the elbow and keeping it tight to your body and see if that helps!
IDK where I heard that but someone else on youtube said to LEAVE a gap for forehanded throws. Just now learned you don't leave any and been throwing a whole lot better.
leaving a gap is generally terrible. However, there is a sort of "trick" where if you do leave a gap, and you have a decent grip, you can get a pretty decent distance with just snapping your forearm and wrist. The disc will pivot around your fingers just before leaving and you can get noticeably further with a small arm motion. I only mention this because I am prone to shoulder injuries. I used to throw exclusively forehand till I injured my shoulder. I could throw about 350 forehand. Now I just use my forehand for 200' upshots or less. gripping with the gap let's me get 200' with almost no shoulder motion at all. edit: if you try the leave a gap for harder throws it will wobble like crazy and you'll lose distance quickly.
Great stuff here, one of the best pieces of advice being the hat tip to Scott Stokely on not serving the pizza (a must watch). Looking forward to part 2. I'm consistently and accurately throwing 350 to 400 rhfh looking for the breakthrough. Guessing some of it is foot drag and since coming back building a forehand callous is a thing which creates hesitantcy on grip using tape or what not.
Thanks Adam, means a lot hearing this as we spent a good 3-4 weeks making this video! Currently working on Part 2, and we hope to get it out next Monday. If not, later in the week for sure! We try not to rush our staple videos anymore, because we’d rather have them done right to meet our standards/expectations 👍
I’m having issues with nose angle. Most of my forehand shots leave the hand nose-up. Haven’t figured out what’s the cause of it. Any tips? Throwing forehand uphill in an anhyzer is definitely the worst. 😬
In the video we discussed aiming at the ground about 20ft out. Kind of like skipping a stone across water. Did you ever do that as a kid? And if so, did you ever get any multiple skips in a row? It’s pretty much the same idea. If that doesn’t work, literally try to throw at the ground 20ft out. If you end up hitting the ground, who cares, since it’s at least teaching you the opposite feeling of throwing high. From there, hopefully you can find a middle ground 👍 Hope this helps!
Anytime Paul! We love helping people get better, so we appreciate the feedback ❤️👍 Stay tuned for part 2, we have some more important tips on the way! 🙌
As a beginner, I play forehand almost exclusively. Mainly because I suck at throwing RHBH (at least with any amount of power and accuracy). Thanks for the tips to help with my forehand.
Biggest thing that helped me was to slow it down and not try to throw hard. If I throw at like 75% power and do a slow walk-up, I can get a pretty smooth release and a decent flight. Soon as I try to go beast mode I throw an unintentional forehand roller or spike hyzer into the trees. It takes me a lot of focus to get the release angle right.
So cool to see all these local courses near me! This video just randomly popped up in my feed! The tip about skipping stones may be huge… I was so good at that as a kid, and my forehand has been a thing to avoid in my game as much as possible… hoping this cue works when I’m out next!
Yessir! We tried our best to create the most informative/helpful video on how to forehand. So glad you’ve found it helpful! 👍❤️ Be sure to check out PART 2 if you haven’t already. More important stuff is uncovered in that video. Merci! 😎
No matter how many grips I tried, no matter how many times, not a single one worked for me. My fingers are always in the way. The only grip that worked for me, that is consistent and fairly reliable, is when I don't use fingers at all. I throw the disk like you would throw a CD disk, just smash the disc between your thumb and middle phalanges of the index finger. I doubt this way can achieve any impressive distance, but hey, at least using forehand is fun now, I guess. 🤷♂
Could you let us know how to start? I’ve never thrown forehand, I’ve tried but it goes about 5 feet, seriously. It would be great to get a true beginner how to video with some drills to practice, thanks!
Love the helpful recommendation, truly appreciate Hermm! Honestly, best way to start (the way I did as well), is with standstill approach shots. Obviously you can go to a field and practice standstills, but it’s also great to just start using the forehand when just outside of the basket. As you begin to recover shots, you’ll gain more and more confidence the more you do it, and in turn, you’ll find yourself approaching from further and further as you get better 👍 Just an fyi, but if you want some one on one support, both our TH-cam Patreon memberships provide 1-on-1 lessons. Whether that’s through video, I’m person, etc 👍
@@JustDisc I get that I just want to know how to practice, I feel the worst thing you can do is practice the wrong things and ways because you’ll only be training bad habits that you’ll have to then try to unlearn and break those bad habits.
@HerrmDogg honestly, just start throwing each shot with a slight hyzer (basically the disc sitting comfortably in your hand). Work on getting snap out of the disc and seeing it flip up to straight. You’ll know you are doing it right when you hear the SNAP!
i went to a field and threw all my discs until i had thrown 100 shots or so. grip is the most important i think, and i didn't have youtube so i just experimented and found what works best for me. LOTS of field practice!!
Hyzer the outer edge away from your hand should be lower anhyzer the outer edge should be tilted higher which is why on a backhand typically people stand more upright but the position of the disc is the same forehand or backhand for desired fade/turn
@@JustDisc Okay, so today I tried the baseball throw technique, and that is a huge help. It felt like a natural motion... something my forehand hasn't felt like before. Progress!! 🎉 Thanks for the help 💯 Can't wait for part 2.
i'm a one finger guy, not many of us around?! been FH dominant for 15 years or so after being BH dominant for 15 years or so. for me, it was a matter of how much easier on my body it was. it was a natural throw as well, since i pitched sidearm/submarine for years. hope i can play another 15 years or more, time to go sling 36 holes or so!
Gavin Babcock was throwing 400 ft plus last weekend in PEI at the tourney with 1 finger. Personally I find it hurts my finger but what's good for some is bad for others
@@timeandspacevintage3380 did not know he used that grip, nice!! 400' is top distance for me unless i'm rolling. i'm 54 and it's all i got! i've never experienced any pain, where on your finger did it hurt? 2 fingers just never felt comfortable for me, regardless of which grip i tried
Why does this have captions in finnish 😂absolutely hilarious. Sivukäsi is a scuffed translation, the right would be Kämmen or fore, i'd lean to kämmen more. Backhand is "rysty" and forehand is "kämmen".
It’s because we’d rather try to provide some form of translation for those who don’t speak English. Sure there may be mistakes, but if your Finnish, you’ll figure out what’s right and wrong pretty quickly. Therefore, it’s just better to have it than nothing at all 👍
@JustDisc The autotranslated video titles are absolutely cringe and put me off these videos (the actual content was great!) for while since I thought it was some kind of troll. You should just keep them in english, since YT uses ridiculous translations for disc golf terms.
Thanks for watching JustDisc! Part 2 of our forehand series is now complete! If you haven't watched it, you can find it here! - th-cam.com/video/OwNVsQ1_sBo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QUhxh3mx-GH9SVi3
Great video! Only one disagreement. I'm a 99% forehand player. When beginning, I understand the thought of understable discs to learn proper form. Just like backhand. However, the disconnect is learning proper form as you go. If we all waited to have form from either side, we probably would have quit by now. I started with over stable discs. Then as my form and knowledge improved. I then went to understable discs to learn how to hyzer flip a disc. If I had started with unstable discs I would have quit by now. If you're off just a hair there's no telling where you disc is going. VERY frustrating, which is why I believe most people give up on their forehand. Because I had gained some form with overstable discs, throwing understable wasn't as frustrating. I now keep a few understable discs in my bag for flips and flexes. I hope this makes sense. Oh and never serve the pizza.
One thing, I've struggled with is proper wrist motion, combined with grip. I can't find a grip and I can hold on to effectively and not do the serve the pizza thing, to get it to fly relatively ok. If I try to use my wrist more the disc just super goes nose and wobbles like crazy. Rotating my grip for the wrist motion to lower, I feel like I don't have a good grip on it at this point and I find myself just literally dropping the disc a good 30% of the time.
Any one else struggle with this concept that has a bit of advice combining the two? I do have small hands, wrist and finger strength issues. But yet my backhand doesn't seem to suffer because of those, As in I can launch a hyzerflip a solid 380+ on the course. But yet my forehand, I'm struggling to get out to the 100ft mark with any sort of accuracy.
The fact that feels like a personal critique is probably a good thing
Brb fieldworking...😆
first. very good tips I will incorporate. Thamks!
Hey...
Vraiment merci.
Tu as bien ciblé toutes mes erreurs... 😂
Je mets ces trucs en application dès maintenant !!
Merci pour le message Joel! J’espère que ces vidéos vont beaucoup t’aider!
Best forehand advice I can give as a full time forehand thrower is to learn how to throw a baseball first
Barely throw forehand. Aced with a zone OS on a short wooded hole.
Thank you so much!! It was #2 for me. And that disc wobbling and burning out…that was me. I’m a beginner and had given up on a forehand. But I just went out to a practice field, loaded the disc into my palm and the discs flew 88, 110 and 130 feet. My last throw was 165 feet. Thanks again!
You're so welcome! This is the feedback we love to hear! Currently working on Part2, should be out next week if all goes well 👍
Great video. I recognized one of the baskets! Are you from Ontario Canada? I saw a clip from the Paris Ontario course.
Yessir! Paris is our hometown course :)
Please try to keep in mind that you shouldn't be throwing full power shots with a hyzer flip. Doing so strains your elbow and the longevity of your sidearm/forehand will be drastically shortened.
Ryan Sheldon has a great sidearm/forehand throw.
Pretty good tips. I’m forehand dominant. I would only nit pick a couple of things. One is starting with Neutral mids. Too many people will struggle way too much with them and give up early. I suggest 6-8 speed slightly overstable discs. Servo is my top pick. The other is the wrist flick at the end. That should be happening as a result of the rest of the kinetic sequence being set up properly. If you try to force it, you’ll probably end up turning your discs over a lot and missing lines left.
How did you make out at Paris? I recognized my home course's 10th hole in the video.
Great! It’s our hometown course and we often film there for convenience. It’s also one of the best courses in southern Ontario ❤️👍
Aaahh... when got my mako3 everything just started to make sense.
Before i was using understable fairway drivers and they were goinge everywhere.
I always recommend neutral mids for people interested in the sport.
Great video! If my shoulder didn't scream at me on big power drives, I would definitely use the forehand more. I use it for scramble shots and approaches when needed.
Thanks chainraider, always nice to hear from you!
Not that this is the case with you, but lots of players trying to forehand don’t utilize their lower half as well, straining their shoulder (my dad is a good example).
Part 2 should help clarify the use of your body, and who knows, it might help! 🙌
This series will help me a ton. I’m forehand dominant, and disappointed in the lack of forehand guides on youtube that go into more than just grip
Love to hear it! We’ve always wanted to do a forehandseries, but wanted to make sure we understood everything before providing information.
Same thing applies to the backhand, which is something I’ve been working on the last 3 years. Long story short, it’s definitely getting there, and we’ll eventually get that information out as well 👍
But doesn’t a forehand flex shot get more distance??
Never been able to throw forehand, always hurts my shoulder when trying, I’m 59 and was a plasterer for 25 years so shoulder pain is now common, but I’m totally ok with the back hand throws, so I’m really going to follow these steps to see if I can improve 👍
Hope you can figure something out that works for your body. Honestly, try the throwing the baseball idea and skipping a stone across water.
Best part about the whole “throwing like a baseball throw” is that it not only teacher you the correct arm and wrist plain, but also teaches you how to engage your lower half 👍
I'm pretty 50/50 between backhand and forehand but my forehand goes a good 75' further than backhand. It's interesting that it's your shoulder that feels it most. Whenever I feel soreness or fatigue from forehand, it's a tennis-elbow sensation or even in my chest muscles, like I was doing pec fly's. I'm not a pro by any means and you know your body best. That being said, whenever people hurt their shoulder I tend to think that their elbow isn't close enough to their body when throwing which adds a ton of strain to your shoulder socket. Try focusing on leading with the elbow and keeping it tight to your body and see if that helps!
IDK where I heard that but someone else on youtube said to LEAVE a gap for forehanded throws. Just now learned you don't leave any and been throwing a whole lot better.
leaving a gap is generally terrible. However, there is a sort of "trick" where if you do leave a gap, and you have a decent grip, you can get a pretty decent distance with just snapping your forearm and wrist. The disc will pivot around your fingers just before leaving and you can get noticeably further with a small arm motion. I only mention this because I am prone to shoulder injuries. I used to throw exclusively forehand till I injured my shoulder. I could throw about 350 forehand. Now I just use my forehand for 200' upshots or less. gripping with the gap let's me get 200' with almost no shoulder motion at all.
edit: if you try the leave a gap for harder throws it will wobble like crazy and you'll lose distance quickly.
@@chuckwalla123 Yeah I intentionally leave a gap... getting the clean release is tricky, but soooo much power
Great stuff here, one of the best pieces of advice being the hat tip to Scott Stokely on not serving the pizza (a must watch). Looking forward to part 2. I'm consistently and accurately throwing 350 to 400 rhfh looking for the breakthrough. Guessing some of it is foot drag and since coming back building a forehand callous is a thing which creates hesitantcy on grip using tape or what not.
Thanks Adam, means a lot hearing this as we spent a good 3-4 weeks making this video!
Currently working on Part 2, and we hope to get it out next Monday. If not, later in the week for sure! We try not to rush our staple videos anymore, because we’d rather have them done right to meet our standards/expectations 👍
I’m having issues with nose angle. Most of my forehand shots leave the hand nose-up. Haven’t figured out what’s the cause of it. Any tips?
Throwing forehand uphill in an anhyzer is definitely the worst. 😬
In the video we discussed aiming at the ground about 20ft out. Kind of like skipping a stone across water.
Did you ever do that as a kid? And if so, did you ever get any multiple skips in a row? It’s pretty much the same idea.
If that doesn’t work, literally try to throw at the ground 20ft out. If you end up hitting the ground, who cares, since it’s at least teaching you the opposite feeling of throwing high. From there, hopefully you can find a middle ground 👍
Hope this helps!
Thanks so much! Your tip to just bend over and throw it like a baseball instantly fixed my forehand from barely usable to reliable distance.
Anytime Paul! We love helping people get better, so we appreciate the feedback ❤️👍
Stay tuned for part 2, we have some more important tips on the way! 🙌
Pushing the disc back behind your wrist before you throw is a game changer for my not so great forehands! Way more confidence flicking now thanks! 🎉👌
It’s these comments we just love to hear, and why we continue to produce disc golf content. Thanks for letting us know Noah 👍❤️
As a beginner, I play forehand almost exclusively. Mainly because I suck at throwing RHBH (at least with any amount of power and accuracy).
Thanks for the tips to help with my forehand.
Biggest thing that helped me was to slow it down and not try to throw hard. If I throw at like 75% power and do a slow walk-up, I can get a pretty smooth release and a decent flight. Soon as I try to go beast mode I throw an unintentional forehand roller or spike hyzer into the trees. It takes me a lot of focus to get the release angle right.
Yes, that’s another big one! Thanks for sharing Ben 👍
So cool to see all these local courses near me! This video just randomly popped up in my feed! The tip about skipping stones may be huge… I was so good at that as a kid, and my forehand has been a thing to avoid in my game as much as possible… hoping this cue works when I’m out next!
This is the best video I have found for learning proper forehand!!!!
Yessir! We tried our best to create the most informative/helpful video on how to forehand. So glad you’ve found it helpful! 👍❤️
Be sure to check out PART 2 if you haven’t already. More important stuff is uncovered in that video.
Merci! 😎
No matter how many grips I tried, no matter how many times, not a single one worked for me. My fingers are always in the way. The only grip that worked for me, that is consistent and fairly reliable, is when I don't use fingers at all. I throw the disk like you would throw a CD disk, just smash the disc between your thumb and middle phalanges of the index finger. I doubt this way can achieve any impressive distance, but hey, at least using forehand is fun now, I guess. 🤷♂
Only three years ago is my hole time, playing disc golf and it feels like a decade 😅
Hahaha, all good! Thankfully you at least found the sport when you did 👍 If you have any questions, let us know!
Thanks for the great video! I'm going to try a few of these tips today!
Good luck Jason! Let us know how it goes and stay tuned for part 2 :) 👍
That's a nice looking skate park!
It sure is!
Could you let us know how to start? I’ve never thrown forehand, I’ve tried but it goes about 5 feet, seriously. It would be great to get a true beginner how to video with some drills to practice, thanks!
Love the helpful recommendation, truly appreciate Hermm!
Honestly, best way to start (the way I did as well), is with standstill approach shots. Obviously you can go to a field and practice standstills, but it’s also great to just start using the forehand when just outside of the basket.
As you begin to recover shots, you’ll gain more and more confidence the more you do it, and in turn, you’ll find yourself approaching from further and further as you get better 👍
Just an fyi, but if you want some one on one support, both our TH-cam Patreon memberships provide 1-on-1 lessons. Whether that’s through video, I’m person, etc 👍
@@JustDisc I get that I just want to know how to practice, I feel the worst thing you can do is practice the wrong things and ways because you’ll only be training bad habits that you’ll have to then try to unlearn and break those bad habits.
@HerrmDogg honestly, just start throwing each shot with a slight hyzer (basically the disc sitting comfortably in your hand). Work on getting snap out of the disc and seeing it flip up to straight. You’ll know you are doing it right when you hear the SNAP!
i went to a field and threw all my discs until i had thrown 100 shots or so. grip is the most important i think, and i didn't have youtube so i just experimented and found what works best for me. LOTS of field practice!!
How do I throw hyzer/anhyzer as a lhbh
is the bottom of the disc up or down
Hyzer the outer edge away from your hand should be lower anhyzer the outer edge should be tilted higher which is why on a backhand typically people stand more upright but the position of the disc is the same forehand or backhand for desired fade/turn
@@jonspriggs8193 thanks
Good stuff! I'll put it to work this week. My forehand needs a whole lot of help.
Perfect! Let us know how it goes 👍 And be sure to come back for Part 2 as we’ll be getting into more helpful specifics :)
@@JustDisc Okay, so today I tried the baseball throw technique, and that is a huge help. It felt like a natural motion... something my forehand hasn't felt like before. Progress!! 🎉 Thanks for the help 💯
Can't wait for part 2.
Very good video and thanks!!
Anytime! We love helping disc golfers better understand and improve at this game 🙌
Paris and Mohawk, cool!
Yessir! 🙌
These are all great points of focus for a forehanding.
Thanks for the tips!
Anytime! More to come :)
big big big thanks
You're welcome! We love to help any any way we can 👍
i'm a one finger guy, not many of us around?! been FH dominant for 15 years or so after being BH dominant for 15 years or so. for me, it was a matter of how much easier on my body it was. it was a natural throw as well, since i pitched sidearm/submarine for years. hope i can play another 15 years or more, time to go sling 36 holes or so!
Gavin Babcock was throwing 400 ft plus last weekend in PEI at the tourney with 1 finger. Personally I find it hurts my finger but what's good for some is bad for others
@@timeandspacevintage3380 did not know he used that grip, nice!! 400' is top distance for me unless i'm rolling. i'm 54 and it's all i got! i've never experienced any pain, where on your finger did it hurt? 2 fingers just never felt comfortable for me, regardless of which grip i tried
Why does this have captions in finnish 😂absolutely hilarious. Sivukäsi is a scuffed translation, the right would be Kämmen or fore, i'd lean to kämmen more. Backhand is "rysty" and forehand is "kämmen".
It’s because we’d rather try to provide some form of translation for those who don’t speak English. Sure there may be mistakes, but if your Finnish, you’ll figure out what’s right and wrong pretty quickly.
Therefore, it’s just better to have it than nothing at all 👍
@@JustDisc Yeah i don't mind, but i found that quite hilarious and wanted to give the correct translation just because i can 😅
@JustDisc The autotranslated video titles are absolutely cringe and put me off these videos (the actual content was great!) for while since I thought it was some kind of troll. You should just keep them in english, since YT uses ridiculous translations for disc golf terms.