Compact, metal frame and with double stack magazines seems to be need of the hour. Really grateful for your attitude of consulting your viewers.So simple and humble personality.Tnx. to the great human being.
I wish the light laser combo had more focus (namely from holster companies). I know is a big cost increase on the lights but adds a lot to something you already chose to bolt to your gun.
I had a Para-Ordnance .45ACP several years ago that had a Crimson Trace laser grip on it ( bought it used ). It was fun to piddle around with and actually painted close enough to POI to be useful. After I traded that gun away I thought about getting a laser to mount on something but never did it. Procrastination is my middle name. It may be that lasers will come back into fashion but I'm thinking that the red dot craze has superceded it to the point that few will jump back on that bandwagon.
Great point on lasers, Graham. I carry an S&W 442 with Crimson Trace laser and feel great that I have it on there. For a long time I subscribed to the "visible lasers r bad, ur projecting to your attacker exactly where u r" mantra. Nowadays, I think in certain cases, there's no disadvantage to having one, especially in close quarters/bad breath distance self-defense. I'm about to go off on a tangent... but a few years ago, and maybe still today, there was a popular drill where you dramatically lift up your shirt, draw, and hipfire blast a USPSA target 2-5 ft away... instead of relying on what's virtually blind fire, why would the ability to aim with a visible laser be a bad thing in situations like that? Painting the target and at least having some visual cue as to where your shots will land is better than complete blind fire. I totally agree they can be useful in minimizing how much of yourself you expose. There a some caveats to this, though, and some good reasons why the laser hasn't met its full potential even after all this time on the market. First off? Lasers need to make ergonomic sense. They need to be powered on automatically - screw reaching for a button to turn it on, no one's got the time for that. They'd need to fit holsters without much hassle, so maybe grip-mounted ones would be best. They need to be durable and hold zero - even newer lasers by CT and Viridian can crap out. I work as an armorer for a local shop and have helped so many folks RMAing CT lasers, it's sad. Thankfully, my 442's has held up well. And though battery life has vastly improved with red dot sights, I'm not sure if battery life has gotten better with visible lasers, though I could be wrong. Anyway, yeah, I'm totally with you on the potential of lasers. As for what I think what's next for handguns...? This might be thinking far, far ahead, but what came to mind were novel handgun designs with non-reciprocating optics mounts. As good as pistol-mounted optics have become, they're still not bulletproof, and I'm not sure they ever will be. Sheared optics screws, electronics that get discombobulated at 5-digit round counts still happen on a regular basis. I think putting the optic on a non-reciprocating part of the pistol's upper, say something like a Desert Eagle configuration where the barrel and optics mounting are on the front portion, with a separate part of the upper that reciprocates and takes the G-force of recoil, would trivialize optics-related issues. One day, one way or another, we'll get there!
I remember seeing a guy practicing hip fire with a laser a long, long time ago (when the range rules were a little more lax) and he was hitting just as accurately as the guys with proper form. Now I dont doubt he had lots and lots of hours behind doing that but the laser was a great asset to that technique. I think lasers being able to correct for these kinds of "improper" but very common firing scenarios is something often overlooked. but what do I know? I'm just some dude.
I am new to firearms...as a seller (been a buyer/user for 24+ years); had a couple trying different compact/subcompact 9mm's & the M&P Shield Plus without rail to attach a light became a repetitive concern...I took out my pocket flashlight and demonstrated the Harris hold with an empty & clear handgun; you'd think I was drunk and came up with a goofy idea by the way they looked at me with their expressions; I luv being the 'basic or low tech' shooter on the gun line...the more high tech shit ya attach to a firearm is more shit that can fail!
The ones that use NV are mostly focused on rifles with their dbawls^^. L&L combos for rails are out there, they can't fit in the rds, the ones in the grips are weak, wash out in the sun. Rds are being pushed more out of the box with collab contracts. There'll be a footprint fight of sorts. What I hope to see is getting dots on revolvers that have a short sight radius. Something small like the Leupold. The other is seeing lots of small center fire rounds in moon clips. There has to be a combo that doesn't suck out of a shorter barrel. The multi dot reticles are already on their way to rifles at a high price, there is no reason to see those on pistols at those price tags. A combination of fibre optic and battery powered rds might be a way to get the outer ring without draining the battery that only handles the dot. With all the pcc options, there should be more dots with drop compensation reticles for 9x19mm.
Veen training with a light and lazer olight application. I train with it at the range and in my back yard with airsoft. I carry a lazer in day and turn the light and lazer on for night. I do not carry a res dot. I train for point of aim.
The lasers idea is interesting, and absolutely a possibility to see those come back. Personally I have not seen much benefit from lasers for anything other than a training aid for muzzle awareness and/or seeing what the gun is doing through the trigger press and recoil. I think we're going to start seeing truly integrated optics akkin to the holosun SCS either coming from the factory pre-installed, or as an actual permanent feature of the slide itself.
Lasers are definitely more useful for seeing how your handling of the gun affects accuracy, and in a self defense situation you are going to get more out of a laser than a red dot. Overall, I'd say a laser is incredibly practical for a handgun in defense against human aggressors.
I chuckle over a lot of these things; I watched micro-9s become a big deal and what came next? Bigger versions of the micro 9s, because people found the tiny ones hard to shoot. I've long said a laser is only useful if you already know how to shoot. I was recently reminded of the corollary- that they ARE useful if you do know how to shoot. Is their comeback the next big thing? I don't know, but it could be. Another possible 'next big thing' that has already started is modularity. Why stop with a chassis? Why not have optional lights, lasers, RDS as manufacturer's options with designs integrated into the form-factor of the gun? If you're offering optional grip modules like Sig does why not offer one with an integrated light or light/laser combination? Frames set up for add-on features like 'gas pedals'. We're already heading this direction with grip inserts and grip modules. It seems a logical extension of what users are already doing and if properly styled it could impart a tacti-cool 'Cyberpunk' esthetic that might appeal to a lot of folks. Advances in additive manufacturing could play right into this; manufacturer's wouldn't need go to the often crippling expense of tooling-up to offer a lot of options.
I would love to see a return of "intuitive" sights. I can't recall the name of it at the moment, but there was a company in the early aughts making a pyramid shaped sight. Line the top of the pyramid to the bottom of the pyramid and put the tip on your target, and you were good. I recall them being very good for new shooters, as it was more intuitive than other styles. They also were smoother, and snagged on things less. On the subject of lasers, the 5mw limit is pretty close to the point where your blink reflex will protect your eye from damage from the laser. Doesn't take much power above that to start risking permanent damage. That said, a laser diode with proper cooling can be as bright as any LED. The tech is fairly mature these days (More so than 20 years ago when I was futzing with them for my thesis project.) and they're getting very energy efficient. It wouldn't be too hard to make a 50mw in the form factor of the crimson trace you were showing. Battery life would be short, but some of the solid state battery tech is getting ready for this sort of use.
@ I think the recoil mgmt mitigation and the “fun” factor increasing folks appetite to train more, and EDC what they train with, will mitigate any “your shirt may catch on fire” issues. In my circle of friends and just about everyone I shoot with in matches, almost 100% of them CCW pistols with chunk ports or inline ports or v-ports etc. T1C, Monsoon Tactical, Vudoo and many others have made comp’s kewl :) Just my individual viewpoint…
@aarondbritt it's not your shirt catching fire that's the problem as much as it is physically blinding yourself when firing from retention, blasting dust/dirt in your eyes when firing from unconventional positions, stunning yourself when firing in close confines, etc. How many of those friends have taken a serious ginfiggting course like CENTER-T or Thunder Ranch?
My first laser gun was back in the 90's and I still have it, is a S&W Sigma with a Laser Max guide rod laser. It is a great location for a laser the only problem is that it is not adjustable. I also have a SIg SP2340 with a Crimson Trace Laser Grip, I got the gun in the late 90's but the laser was purchased around 2007 I think. I don't rely on lasers that much but back then they were cool because of Hollywood. I still keep them because they are rare novelties.
I thought by now Moore's Law would have given us a small holographic pistol sight with a decent battery life. With astigmatism I never had problems with my rifle's EoTech back in the day - but the pistol dot sights are quite distorted. Good video, thanks.
Hello Graham, I have been thinking about getting a bore laser and mounting a sight laser and matching their points on a target. Then attempting just what you are talking about. Just point and placing the laser at the dead nuts center and seeing what happens.
Yup, completely agree with the laser idea. A 10mm DA/SA w/ a manual decocker like the Sig P220 but with a double-stack instead of a single-stack magazine. This is my dream gun setup. Umm, more slim grip variants like the PDP F. .40 S&W will probably make a resurgence because it is so cheap and plentiful. I think it really got a bad rap the last 8 or so years, thanks to MAC lol. More 8-shot cylinder .357 magnum revolvers. I think the Platypus is going to take over the double-stack 1911 market and they will keep expanding their customization options. In a few years, we might even see a 10mm option for the Platypus and a steel frame version. I think we're going to witness the Kimberization of HK for better & for worse in the next few years. I think we are going to see some more ultimate do-it-all optics come outta Holosun. Of course, we're going to see the Gen 6 Glocks come out most likely featuring metal sights & an improved trigger. Walther is already going down the Kimber/SIG route with the release of the PDP Pro-x pmm comp. I think CZ will release a P-10F/C Nocturne version soon.
Those things sell. It’s marketing. I’m a 25 year Army Infantry vet and 15 year civilian working for the gov, two years on PPD. I’ve handled gun since the late 60s. I’m 65 now. Some changes are good, most are worthless.
There are plenty of guns that are not RMR ready many are older guns but many of these are able to have Lasers added to them. Lasers are great in lower light situations. I have them on my J frame revolvers.
Top on my wish list for pistol development would be a trigger that is adjustable for weight/feel. Or even better, following the AR15 rifle model, a modular trigger that can be easily upgraded to something better.
My fuzzy Cristal ball tells me we will have handgun optics with a laser built into the optic that you can choose the red dot or the laser. The laser will be used for (programmable) defense rounds that will be 100% accurate when the laser is activated🤔😀
I have been into guns for nearly half a century and never cared for tacticool anything. However, I always have thought that laser grips were a good idea (though expensive) for the exact reasons you mention. I never understood why that aspect never seemed to come up in sighting discussions. Other advantages over the red dots is they never interfere with your irons nor do they contribute any awkwardness to the package.
Interesting thoughts on lasers! I personally think someone is going to innovate a "Laugo Arms Alien" type operating system for multiple platforms...stationary dot/sights, low reciprocating mass, potentially gas operated, etc.
Thank you! I have a laser on my HD pistol for this exact reason. All the internet "experts" in the forums say they are dumb, pointless, or what have you. Also keep a can on it. I want options.
My gut says the next thing will be smaller, more affordable versions of the XM-157 military, smart optic, sighting system that calculates holdover for distance shooting and shows you were to hold to get your hits. The tech is already out, just very exclusive and expensive. As we know, time will make most technologies more affordable and compact. What'd I'd like to see is more people moving back to irons. Red dots are great on rifles, but I'm very lukewarm on them on pistols.
Valid point, I remember that being commercially available almost a decade ago. It never took off, partially due to cost, I think the other part is what fun is it if the firearm does all the work?
@jhauser203 I think 7 yards is fine. Of course it can vary from model to model regarding offset from the bore, but with thst little 380 we hit reduced-size steel at 20 yards without issue.
If the laser IS next, the demand for red/green dots will have to wane quite a bit first - IMO. I agree with a metal framed, guide rod lasered, hammer fired (DA/SA) Arex Delta M. Same stippling. (I'm not sure of an on/off switch for that kind of laser assembly though). 🙂
Here is something that might become a fad solely because it creates a new sales niche. DA/SA micro compacts. Almost all of them are Striker fired right now with a small amount of SAO hammer fired guns, people will get bored of that and someone will come in and go "look at my shiny new thing it's different!" . Before anyone tells me that DA/SA microcompacts are dumb idea that's not the point of what i am saying.
In my opinion lasers are much much much more better than red dots because nine times out of 10 if a person sees a. Anywhere on them or near them they're going to run and guess what he never have to fire a shot
Wish someone would bring back mouse/pocket guns. New Colt jr, Beretta 950bs. Seecamp is the only pocket gun maker right now. The new Beretta Tom at is way to big
Hopefully a renaissance of 40s&w/10mm, 357 Sig. Everything seems to go back to the same old thing, comps are old tech…lasers came and went, now optics that cost as much as some guns & take more time then just aiming with irons, they will go away some day too. Would love to see double stack “micros” in other calibers. It probably won’t happen anytime soon
I don’t know. If you are adding sighting systems after market and adding compensators after market I believe this can paint you as an EXTREMIST in the eyes of a jury. If worst came to worst and you become involved in a defensive shooting situation. Even using some hollow point ammo may get work against you in the eyes of a jury I think. ??!!😧
The appropriate saying for this is, judged by 12, or carried by 6. The choice is yours. I don't let the future possibility of prosecution stop me from using every advantage to survive a lethal encounter in the present. Just my 2 cents 👍
Yeah, if you apply that logic, any modification of your gun will do the same thing. And if you don't modify your gun? The prosecutor is going to tell the jury you bought the gun last Saturday night and you were looking to off someone and then throw it in the river, "he spent the bare minimum on the gun and the ammo because he's just going to dispose of it afterwards." You cannot win in this position, if there's a Democrat prosecutor involved they will find a bunch of idiots who will call you a murderer even if you saved a bus load of elementary school children from a terrorist. On video.
Compact sizes are coming back
I did not know they left. They seem to dominate civilian CC purchases.... just my admittedly amateur opinion. Ty.
Compact, metal frame and with double stack magazines seems to be need of the hour. Really grateful for your attitude of consulting your viewers.So simple and humble personality.Tnx. to the great human being.
Thank you
Great talk my friends and i was just talking about the days that laser where use on guns , like the fact you don't have to be behind the gun.
I wish the light laser combo had more focus (namely from holster companies). I know is a big cost increase on the lights but adds a lot to something you already chose to bolt to your gun.
I had a Para-Ordnance .45ACP several years ago that had a Crimson Trace laser grip on it ( bought it used ). It was fun to piddle around with and actually painted close enough to POI to be useful. After I traded that gun away I thought about getting a laser to mount on something but never did it. Procrastination is my middle name. It may be that lasers will come back into fashion but I'm thinking that the red dot craze has superceded it to the point that few will jump back on that bandwagon.
Great point on lasers, Graham. I carry an S&W 442 with Crimson Trace laser and feel great that I have it on there. For a long time I subscribed to the "visible lasers r bad, ur projecting to your attacker exactly where u r" mantra. Nowadays, I think in certain cases, there's no disadvantage to having one, especially in close quarters/bad breath distance self-defense. I'm about to go off on a tangent... but a few years ago, and maybe still today, there was a popular drill where you dramatically lift up your shirt, draw, and hipfire blast a USPSA target 2-5 ft away... instead of relying on what's virtually blind fire, why would the ability to aim with a visible laser be a bad thing in situations like that? Painting the target and at least having some visual cue as to where your shots will land is better than complete blind fire. I totally agree they can be useful in minimizing how much of yourself you expose.
There a some caveats to this, though, and some good reasons why the laser hasn't met its full potential even after all this time on the market. First off? Lasers need to make ergonomic sense. They need to be powered on automatically - screw reaching for a button to turn it on, no one's got the time for that. They'd need to fit holsters without much hassle, so maybe grip-mounted ones would be best. They need to be durable and hold zero - even newer lasers by CT and Viridian can crap out. I work as an armorer for a local shop and have helped so many folks RMAing CT lasers, it's sad. Thankfully, my 442's has held up well. And though battery life has vastly improved with red dot sights, I'm not sure if battery life has gotten better with visible lasers, though I could be wrong. Anyway, yeah, I'm totally with you on the potential of lasers.
As for what I think what's next for handguns...? This might be thinking far, far ahead, but what came to mind were novel handgun designs with non-reciprocating optics mounts. As good as pistol-mounted optics have become, they're still not bulletproof, and I'm not sure they ever will be. Sheared optics screws, electronics that get discombobulated at 5-digit round counts still happen on a regular basis. I think putting the optic on a non-reciprocating part of the pistol's upper, say something like a Desert Eagle configuration where the barrel and optics mounting are on the front portion, with a separate part of the upper that reciprocates and takes the G-force of recoil, would trivialize optics-related issues. One day, one way or another, we'll get there!
I remember seeing a guy practicing hip fire with a laser a long, long time ago (when the range rules were a little more lax) and he was hitting just as accurately as the guys with proper form. Now I dont doubt he had lots and lots of hours behind doing that but the laser was a great asset to that technique. I think lasers being able to correct for these kinds of "improper" but very common firing scenarios is something often overlooked. but what do I know? I'm just some dude.
If lasers come back they should be like the recoil spring variety, integral to the frame
Lasers!! lol oh my he just hypnotized me i literally have to have one now!! Made a killer point WOW! "a wall shot"
I am new to firearms...as a seller (been a buyer/user for 24+ years); had a couple trying different compact/subcompact 9mm's & the M&P Shield Plus without rail to attach a light became a repetitive concern...I took out my pocket flashlight and demonstrated the Harris hold with an empty & clear handgun; you'd think I was drunk and came up with a goofy idea by the way they looked at me with their expressions;
I luv being the 'basic or low tech' shooter on the gun line...the more high tech shit ya attach to a firearm is more shit that can fail!
I too prefer the separate light for a carry gun, plus then I've got a flashlight for non-gun use. My house gun has a light mounted.
kinda hard to mount weapon lights on DA revolvers & semiautos without rails! 😂 all mine are basic or legacy designs...
The ones that use NV are mostly focused on rifles with their dbawls^^. L&L combos for rails are out there, they can't fit in the rds, the ones in the grips are weak, wash out in the sun.
Rds are being pushed more out of the box with collab contracts. There'll be a footprint fight of sorts.
What I hope to see is getting dots on revolvers that have a short sight radius. Something small like the Leupold. The other is seeing lots of small center fire rounds in moon clips. There has to be a combo that doesn't suck out of a shorter barrel.
The multi dot reticles are already on their way to rifles at a high price, there is no reason to see those on pistols at those price tags.
A combination of fibre optic and battery powered rds might be a way to get the outer ring without draining the battery that only handles the dot. With all the pcc options, there should be more dots with drop compensation reticles for 9x19mm.
Veen training with a light and lazer olight application. I train with it at the range and in my back yard with airsoft.
I carry a lazer in day and turn the light and lazer on for night. I do not carry a res dot. I train for point of aim.
Folding optics
The lasers idea is interesting, and absolutely a possibility to see those come back. Personally I have not seen much benefit from lasers for anything other than a training aid for muzzle awareness and/or seeing what the gun is doing through the trigger press and recoil. I think we're going to start seeing truly integrated optics akkin to the holosun SCS either coming from the factory pre-installed, or as an actual permanent feature of the slide itself.
Lasers are definitely more useful for seeing how your handling of the gun affects accuracy, and in a self defense situation you are going to get more out of a laser than a red dot. Overall, I'd say a laser is incredibly practical for a handgun in defense against human aggressors.
Would like to see more compact slide/ subcompact frame configurations
I chuckle over a lot of these things; I watched micro-9s become a big deal and what came next? Bigger versions of the micro 9s, because people found the tiny ones hard to shoot. I've long said a laser is only useful if you already know how to shoot. I was recently reminded of the corollary- that they ARE useful if you do know how to shoot. Is their comeback the next big thing? I don't know, but it could be. Another possible 'next big thing' that has already started is modularity. Why stop with a chassis? Why not have optional lights, lasers, RDS as manufacturer's options with designs integrated into the form-factor of the gun? If you're offering optional grip modules like Sig does why not offer one with an integrated light or light/laser combination? Frames set up for add-on features like 'gas pedals'. We're already heading this direction with grip inserts and grip modules. It seems a logical extension of what users are already doing and if properly styled it could impart a tacti-cool 'Cyberpunk' esthetic that might appeal to a lot of folks. Advances in additive manufacturing could play right into this; manufacturer's wouldn't need go to the often crippling expense of tooling-up to offer a lot of options.
I would love to see a return of "intuitive" sights. I can't recall the name of it at the moment, but there was a company in the early aughts making a pyramid shaped sight. Line the top of the pyramid to the bottom of the pyramid and put the tip on your target, and you were good. I recall them being very good for new shooters, as it was more intuitive than other styles. They also were smoother, and snagged on things less.
On the subject of lasers, the 5mw limit is pretty close to the point where your blink reflex will protect your eye from damage from the laser. Doesn't take much power above that to start risking permanent damage. That said, a laser diode with proper cooling can be as bright as any LED. The tech is fairly mature these days (More so than 20 years ago when I was futzing with them for my thesis project.) and they're getting very energy efficient. It wouldn't be too hard to make a 50mw in the form factor of the crimson trace you were showing. Battery life would be short, but some of the solid state battery tech is getting ready for this sort of use.
Metal frame compact double stacks, everything has a comp, FCU’s for everything and built-in / integrated red dots. Electronic triggers.
I think comps will die back out once people realize how terrible they are for defensive use.
@ I think the recoil mgmt mitigation and the “fun” factor increasing folks appetite to train more, and EDC what they train with, will mitigate any “your shirt may catch on fire” issues. In my circle of friends and just about everyone I shoot with in matches, almost 100% of them CCW pistols with chunk ports or inline ports or v-ports etc. T1C, Monsoon Tactical, Vudoo and many others have made comp’s kewl :) Just my individual viewpoint…
@aarondbritt it's not your shirt catching fire that's the problem as much as it is physically blinding yourself when firing from retention, blasting dust/dirt in your eyes when firing from unconventional positions, stunning yourself when firing in close confines, etc. How many of those friends have taken a serious ginfiggting course like CENTER-T or Thunder Ranch?
Holy crap finally actually catching one of these
This was totally un-announced and in the middle of a work day, I just tossed it out there.
Red dot on snub nose revolvers. When SW or Ruger starts pushing red dot cut snubs, for an affordable price, they move a ton of units.
My first laser gun was back in the 90's and I still have it, is a S&W Sigma with a Laser Max guide rod laser. It is a great location for a laser the only problem is that it is not adjustable.
I also have a SIg SP2340 with a Crimson Trace Laser Grip, I got the gun in the late 90's but the laser was purchased around 2007 I think. I don't rely on lasers that much but back then they were cool because of Hollywood. I still keep them because they are rare novelties.
I thought by now Moore's Law would have given us a small holographic pistol sight with a decent battery life. With astigmatism I never had problems with my rifle's EoTech back in the day - but the pistol dot sights are quite distorted. Good video, thanks.
Might be around the corner, or it could take another year or two...
Yes I think a 🛩 jet pilot style HUD or Heads Up Display. A tracking of a target, dot that the user can quickly pick up.
Hello Graham, I have been thinking about getting a bore laser and mounting a sight laser and matching their points on a target. Then attempting just what you are talking about. Just point and placing the laser at the dead nuts center and seeing what happens.
Yup, completely agree with the laser idea. A 10mm DA/SA w/ a manual decocker like the Sig P220 but with a double-stack instead of a single-stack magazine. This is my dream gun setup. Umm, more slim grip variants like the PDP F. .40 S&W will probably make a resurgence because it is so cheap and plentiful. I think it really got a bad rap the last 8 or so years, thanks to MAC lol. More 8-shot cylinder .357 magnum revolvers. I think the Platypus is going to take over the double-stack 1911 market and they will keep expanding their customization options. In a few years, we might even see a 10mm option for the Platypus and a steel frame version. I think we're going to witness the Kimberization of HK for better & for worse in the next few years. I think we are going to see some more ultimate do-it-all optics come outta Holosun. Of course, we're going to see the Gen 6 Glocks come out most likely featuring metal sights & an improved trigger. Walther is already going down the Kimber/SIG route with the release of the PDP Pro-x pmm comp. I think CZ will release a P-10F/C Nocturne version soon.
Those things sell. It’s marketing. I’m a 25 year Army Infantry vet and 15 year civilian working for the gov, two years on PPD. I’ve handled gun since the late 60s. I’m 65 now. Some changes are good, most are worthless.
There are plenty of guns that are not RMR ready many are older guns but many of these are able to have Lasers added to them. Lasers are great in lower light situations. I have them on my J frame revolvers.
Top on my wish list for pistol development would be a trigger that is adjustable for weight/feel. Or even better, following the AR15 rifle model, a modular trigger that can be easily upgraded to something better.
Credit Song is AMAZING
My fuzzy Cristal ball tells me we will have handgun optics with a laser built into the optic that you can choose the red dot or the laser. The laser will be used for (programmable) defense rounds that will be 100% accurate when the laser is activated🤔😀
Metal frames seem to be coming back.
@@Lakanen263 I hope so! An extra 8oz of weight, for me at least, is totally worth a steel grip for balance, durability and recoil absorption.
I have been into guns for nearly half a century and never cared for tacticool anything. However, I always have thought that laser grips were a good idea (though expensive) for the exact reasons you mention. I never understood why that aspect never seemed to come up in sighting discussions.
Other advantages over the red dots is they never interfere with your irons nor do they contribute any awkwardness to the package.
Interesting thoughts on lasers! I personally think someone is going to innovate a "Laugo Arms Alien" type operating system for multiple platforms...stationary dot/sights, low reciprocating mass, potentially gas operated, etc.
I want to see some new 40s and .357 Sig pistols
Thank you! I have a laser on my HD pistol for this exact reason. All the internet "experts" in the forums say they are dumb, pointless, or what have you. Also keep a can on it. I want options.
My gut says the next thing will be smaller, more affordable versions of the XM-157 military, smart optic, sighting system that calculates holdover for distance shooting and shows you were to hold to get your hits. The tech is already out, just very exclusive and expensive. As we know, time will make most technologies more affordable and compact. What'd I'd like to see is more people moving back to irons. Red dots are great on rifles, but I'm very lukewarm on them on pistols.
Valid point, I remember that being commercially available almost a decade ago. It never took off, partially due to cost, I think the other part is what fun is it if the firearm does all the work?
@@gbgunsmedia Totally agree. Part of the reason I'm not big on red dots on pistols. It took the sport out of it.
What distance would you zero a laser? 7, 10 , 25 yards? Obviously same as your dot
@jhauser203 I think 7 yards is fine. Of course it can vary from model to model regarding offset from the bore, but with thst little 380 we hit reduced-size steel at 20 yards without issue.
Return of metal frames and expansion of and improvement to 2011
If the laser IS next, the demand for red/green dots will have to wane quite a bit first - IMO.
I agree with a metal framed, guide rod lasered, hammer fired (DA/SA) Arex Delta M. Same stippling. (I'm not sure of an on/off switch for that kind of laser assembly though). 🙂
red dots still require you to be behind the gun.
@gbgunsmedia that was one of the advantages... what are your thoughts on which laser device keeps its zero the longest?
Here is something that might become a fad solely because it creates a new sales niche. DA/SA micro compacts. Almost all of them are Striker fired right now with a small amount of SAO hammer fired guns, people will get bored of that and someone will come in and go "look at my shiny new thing it's different!" . Before anyone tells me that DA/SA microcompacts are dumb idea that's not the point of what i am saying.
Springfield made one a few years back. I don't think it was too popular. I would get one.
Revolvers .. 32 HR
Great platform for pocket guns or small game guns. A very under appreciated caliber.
In my opinion lasers are much much much more better than red dots because nine times out of 10 if a person sees a. Anywhere on them or near them they're going to run and guess what he never have to fire a shot
I've heard that opinion for years, but what are the chances of them seeing a dot on them?
Wish someone would bring back mouse/pocket guns. New Colt jr, Beretta 950bs. Seecamp is the only pocket gun maker right now. The new Beretta Tom at is way to big
I would like to see more offerings in 30 super carry
I pine for the 1990s .40Super. Look into it!
Hopefully a renaissance of 40s&w/10mm, 357 Sig. Everything seems to go back to the same old thing, comps are old tech…lasers came and went, now optics that cost as much as some guns & take more time then just aiming with irons, they will go away some day too. Would love to see double stack “micros” in other calibers. It probably won’t happen anytime soon
Yeah I want more offerings in .357 SIG, it's a great round for a semi automatic woods gun.
I wouldn't mind seeing a resurgence of .45 GAP. It was an interesting concept.
It was about as impactful as .30 Super Carry.
Just go with true Norma spec 10mm
I always liked .40Super ... highly under rated. 40S&W sweeped up the duty guns, ccw line 1990s. Some pull for .357sig but not a lot.
I don’t know. If you are adding sighting systems after market and adding compensators after market I believe this can paint you as an EXTREMIST in the eyes of a jury. If worst came to worst and you become involved in a defensive shooting situation. Even using some hollow point ammo may get work against you in the eyes of a jury I think. ??!!😧
The appropriate saying for this is, judged by 12, or carried by 6. The choice is yours. I don't let the future possibility of prosecution stop me from using every advantage to survive a lethal encounter in the present. Just my 2 cents 👍
Yeah, if you apply that logic, any modification of your gun will do the same thing. And if you don't modify your gun? The prosecutor is going to tell the jury you bought the gun last Saturday night and you were looking to off someone and then throw it in the river, "he spent the bare minimum on the gun and the ammo because he's just going to dispose of it afterwards." You cannot win in this position, if there's a Democrat prosecutor involved they will find a bunch of idiots who will call you a murderer even if you saved a bus load of elementary school children from a terrorist. On video.
@@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n agreed 👍. And well said. They hate it that we have the audacity to defend ourselves. Doesn't matter what you use. You're right there.