How Good or Bad is the AI in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2020
- Here is a compilation of hilarious AI fails as well as amazing AI wins in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch.
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Game
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - Nintendo Switch, 2018
Music
Termina Field - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - เกม
The AI in this game is overall really good and the few flaws are all quite situational. The developers deserve some respect for that.
Anyway, what do you want to see next? :)
Weakest of all moves in smash
How dumb is the AI in Smash Wii U/3Ds?
@@MasterMarx YES
Smash 4
Which CPUs respond to WarioWare
“Cloud tends to spam Limit Charge at a distance and then wastes the Limit Break status with a poorly used Blade Beam”. Ahh just like online
just like the simulations
Cpu vs wifi
@@Joltz9 Sees Samus "Watch those wrist rockets.
just like vinny vinesauce
Yes
The smash ultimate cloud ai really knows how to capture the spirit of the later smash 4 competitive scene.
Bowser: *spams bowser bomb in a one simple way
Kirby: What is all this advanced tech?!
I don’t think anybody would expect such a stupid strategy
haha boing :)
Kirby > Bowser
Kirby: "poyo??"
@@PhasimPhoenix I love doing that with Greninja's Dair between stocks or when my opponent is on the other side of the stage. You gotta assert dominance.
Level 9 CPUs are stupidly good at getting out of buries.
Stratus 42 because they’re not humans with limitations on how fast they can press a button. So they can essentially press every button as fast as possible at the same time.
And grabbing
Stratus 42
lvl 9s are literally immune to Ganoncides with how fast they be mashin
Getting out of grabs, you can't even get one pummel before throwing until like 40%
And techs, can’t forget about those
"CPU's try to attack you with a broken hammer"
Byleth: *Dances*
Looked more like Byleth was trying to survive by staying in center stage
@@donovanmahan2901 That as well.
@@donovanmahan2901 I thought that too.
@@anyapeanutlover *CPUs
she’s supposed to be a professor, why is she doing something that dumb, especially in the middle of combat???
CPUs in Brawl would actually Don’t Move and Taunt unlike Ultimate in the micro games on WarriorWare Inc.
yeah I remember that, It's weird that the dev team didnt keep it that way
CPUs in Smash 3DS also don't move and taunt in micro games as well
@@tyrdkraken indeed
@@tyrdkraken
Then why is that gone in Ultimate?
@@LeonOcto maybe an oversight, it's probably easy to forget small stuff like that especially when devs have 500 stages to work on and most playtesting was likely with real people
I have noticed with CPU’s is they normally only spaz out when you don’t attack them and or do nothing
stephen cox lol yea,they do some ridiculous dash dances. It's hilarious XD
I’ve crouched and not moved before and most of them tend to miss A LOT.
I think they're primarily reactive, with whatever routines and behaviors they have tied to what's going on.
If nothing's going on, they've got nothing to really work with.
It's because they actually try and make reads, which they're surprisingly good at. But when you don't move, they panic expecting you to throw something out.
@NotGonnaTell MyName they detect inputs and can react instantly.
"CPUs make no effort to dodge Poison Mushrooms"
Chrom: *dodge*
I notice that too XD
They for some reason wanna attack it... hm...
Ultra instinct
Mr. Boo but then he chased it lol
He probably rolled to get away from the player and not to dodge the mushroom
Heres a fun fact: if theres no floor, CPUs will not climb up ladders
They'll also sd if there's no floor and an upwards wind effect keeping them afloat
i mean stage builder was added afterward and it was not made for these kind of shitty stage where there is no floor so yeah
SDW Samix “best stages”
Kevin Nguyen worst stages
@@sdwsamix864 but make the floor fall and there’s no floor
I remember in the older games that the cpus would do the microgames on warioware
Luke DeGeorges that was the player
Either way you can still doing them if you don't have too much damage.
@Luke DeGeorges no
They used to do "Don't Move!" near-religiously, completely willing to sit there and let you wind up a fully charged smash because the game wants them to hold still.
@@wingedcatgirl Probably why they dropped it.
Don't move when you're playing with good players is suicide lmao.
You forgot the most important one: Chrom's cheese. The CPU cannot recognize how dangerous Chrom's up special is, so you can spam up B at a ledge and the CPU will eventually get caught in it, get spiked at any percent and die. You can trivialize a lot of Legend-class spirit battles this way to the point where you need no spirits yourself. Certain similar up specials, like one of Mii Brawler's, also work for this, but Chrom's is the best one.
Zeg what
Red9282 CPUs don’t realize that Chrom can drag both of them to hell and get dragged into hell
This can also be applied against lvl 50 amiibos. It's easy to cheese by camping at ledge
Just goes to prove that beating level 9s don't equate to real skill. I see so many people flexing about how they can beat levels 9 which apparently means there good. smh. Regardless, nice find Zeg
Dry Bowser almost made me tear the Switch in half some months ago.
A few days ago, I tried the Chrom cheese on him in the Spirit Board because I thought it was just a meme... I killed him at 7%
I really miss when the CPUs would actually participate in WarioWare
I'd have to see if level 8 cpus would taunt, as it seems that level 8 CPUs can taunt while level 9s cannot
At least they are actually trying to dodge that stare in Gamer stage.
Unity: On the contrary, CPUs are skilled at combos
Bayo: drops combo and uses witch time 5:06
yeah but if you were trying to get out of it by mashing nair guess who would have still been in a combo
Bayo is the one character that has combos hard coded into the game so I don’t really think she should be used as an example as CPUs being good at combos
"Honestly, the AI in Ultimate is great"
Shows the AI getting grabbed 5 times in a row to show how good they are at mashing
"CPUs are good at but not limited to..."
Me: Frame perfect air dodge,
Frame perfect air dodge,
Frame perfect air dodge,
and last but not least...
Frame perfect air dodge.
That's how it is for anything any higher than lv 4
The perfect frame air dodge was more severe in smash 4, thou. It was impossible to hit cpu out stage sometimes, even delaying or anticipating attacks
@@murilopinho6442 Brawl as well, they can frame perfect almost anything.
you also forgot frame perfect air dodge
And goddamn teching srlsy I cant even do it that consistently
Next video:
How bad are the players in quickplay?
Everyone literally takes advantage of lag and spams the whole match.
@@kennethvalentine8901 *Wifi* *Zelda*
@@frfx2470 FlOsS
@@frfx2470 Mii gunner
@@frfx2470 haha up b win button
No one:
Cpu cloud: maybe if I play like I'm in smash 4, I'll go back!
HAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLO LMAO XDDDDDD WOW YOU'RE SO FUCKONG HILARIOUS HAHAHAHA THAT NO ONE WAS REALLY WHAT YOUR OBSERVATION NEEDED HAHA IT CERTAINLY ADDS SO MUCH COMEDY TO IT HAJAJAHSHA I AM IN CONSTANT PAIN PLEASE KILL ME
ThePablosin1 are you okay
@@zernek9199 NO
@@ThePablosin1 shut the fuck up
@@ThePablosin1 you again
Donkey Kong Grounded Up B: * Exists*
Lv 9 CPUs: * Confused Screaming*
Bayonetta's dive kick side b: exists
CPUs: *visible confusion*
"Little Mac makes no effort to use Side B to recover."
Well yeah, if he's that far off stage, he's pretty much dead.
Well i mean some of the little mac cpus i played against can recover from that distance
@@mythoughtsexactly2145 It all depends on the distance. Either way, theres an 80% he's not coming back
yeah but in every example he used in the video he would've made it using side b
@@launchbase4944 you overestimate his recovery. He could've made the second one, but the others were a bit too far out to get without close to frame perfect timing.
Nah even i could sometimes recover from that distance with litte mac
[1:26] This one's actually really interesting. It may indicate that side-B not putting you into freefall was a decision made later.
Wow i never thought about that but great idea
*at specific angles* Cpu little mac does use recovery side b, maybe it just thinks its up b will reach the stage since the priority at that range.
example of cpu using side b th-cam.com/video/_ReXHvtCEwI/w-d-xo.html
The fact that he seems to _choose_ between side-B and up-B in that situation is what I'm talking about. If side-B used to put you into freefall like I'm suspecting, then the AI would have to _choose_ between horizontal or vertical distance with an angle like that. The fact that it chooses up-B instead of side-B suggests that both caused freefall earlier in development.
@@Flygoniaks I don't understand why free fall would make mac choose his recovery options.
@@martmine4618 If side B led into freefall, you would only ever use one like in Smash 4.
The question is: when are we getting the level 10 CPUs from the original challenger approaching battles?
wait, they had a higher ai? I always wondered why they were so good
TheBlitz level 2048203810382e293810382038pi pi pi pi 92947eee8293829e92938292938291028371928282818182 pi pi pi cpus
I genuinely want that as a setting, I would love to play against those CPUs
Generic Worm I think what they’re referring to was the absolutely *stupid* AI on launch day. They were so good they were nerfed in a few hours
@@agate865 yeah, i played on launch day lol, just didn't update for a few weeks cause I had no wifi
CPUs will keep trying to hit Joker even if he does revel's guard. This one time a Diddy Kong Up-tilted me until my bar was full
The fact that you had to include that weird one with the ring ramps means you had to SEEK issues. A hallmark of quality.
That's kind of the point of the video. They are trying to find issues with the AI, they are seeking out issues to show us. Go whine somewhere else.
*_-When you think no one can be worse than your brother-_* :
@Chase Wakelin hehe
is this supposed to be funny?
The cpu is really good actually
This comment is perfect
In the melee video
I want to see you win lvl9 cpu
"How Bad is the AI in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate?"
See footage of them falling of the stage in spirt battles
And then there was the time with unlocking the characters in fights.
@@renaultft1917 those weren't even bad they were advance AF
@@LuigiLitoLL I never said they were bad. It was supposed to be contrast
@@renaultft1917 ah ok
this is how I got the pauline spirit, peach just fell to her death
4:37 the pink demon, destroyer of worlds, the infinite void of darkness and always...
Looks like its blushing
I just realised this might be the first time I've actually seen somebody pick the Psycho Soldier theme in English and personally that's what gets me the most in this video
its the better version
@Ultimate Gamer it is if you're not a weeb
It makes me happy that the AI is so good in Ultimate. Offline battles against CPU's are actually quite enjoyable because of it.
Unless it's Pichu. Fuck that little rat
Squad Strike on Level 9 with opponents set on random is AMAZING
When you only just started playing and the ai are already flexing on you by parrying everything.
0:51 Cloud: “I got you now!”
*jumps and misses Blade Beam*
Cloud: “Frick”
what Cloud would actually say: "NANI"
4:22 Did anyone notice how kinda perfect is Bowser bomb synchronized with the beat?
It’s a bit off beat
That's not synchronized
My bad, I meant that was good-ish
It missed the majority of the down and up beats
Not at all
0:20 Banjo's AI clearly knew he had the stock lead and of course he'd go for the trade.
Nope he would do that on one stock
Big Brain Banjo
2:23 it is me or in the brawl version the cpu's play those microgames
Yeah
They did
They do that in Smash 4 too
Yes.
Pretty sure they ignore them as that's a good way to die at higher percents.
When Joker AI uses Up B with Arsene, he always misses the ledge and tries to land onstage, which makes him very punishable.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed
"CPUs can’t spot the difference between real and fake Smash Balls."
But... that’s kinda the point.
Yeah i think they're supposed to do that.
Fake Smash Balls are essentially decoys, and they are basically meant to fall for it. I think he’s saying that CPUs should "see" the difference, though I’m not sure if that would be possible to code.
@@RyugaIrving that's totally possible to code, but I think it is intentional that they go for it. Although I think they should go after it a bit less than the real ones, so they don't kill themselves a bunch.
They can see invisible or smokescreened human player which is unfair
Younes Layachi: That’s kinda different, but yeah, that’s pretty dumb nonetheless.
CPUs will tend to pick and hold snakes grenades until detonation
The fact that custom stages were not mentioned astounds me, I've played on some custom stages where the CPU just decides not to recover. They also tend to be quite reckless when it comes to lava, to the point where you can beat a level 9 on certain stages by doing absolutely nothing!
Luigi wants to know more
Yes, I created a custom stage World 8 themed (lava all over the floor with a moving platform in the air) and... I win too easily
Cpu’s have godlike reactions
The level 9 perfectly air dodge all my attempts to start combos
I never thought Nintendo would make Kirbo's boxing ring name "The Pink Demon"
I remember the time when played Fox and my CPU opponent parried *every* laser shot!
That's not very difficult, even for a human, the only hard part is getting the first one, then u can just spam shield
@Sparkie SSBU are you talking about those RoA workshop characters?
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The fact that they almost always insta-parry the stronger attacks bugged me when fighting them.
They make it look too damn easy.
It annoys me to no end when they parry shield breaker
0:23
Banjo: guh huh I'm going to use this bullet bill
Jiggly puff: *no don't!*
Banjo: *gUh Huh I'm dead*
edge lord Booooo
Again I have spotted you edge lord
The level nine cpus overcompensate. They’ll go from pitifully easy to beat to suddenly performing literally inhuman reactions if you win one match.
No they always hard for me
@@KingFamppam im sorry comrade
Little do we know that the Banjo CPU was actually big brain and realized that he was up two stocks, and that is why he went for the stock trades! Lol
CPU: *Sees crown*
Also CPU: “Aw heck no, I’m staying away from that.”
1:55 this one almost feels like it's on purpose
It is
Sakurai- makes CPUs frame perfect at airdodging and parries
Smash CPU’s: 😎👍 “*nice*”
Duck Hunt will occasionally spaz out and use any B move after getting the can out
CPUs are good at: mashing
Inklings who use a lot of side-b: so you dare to oppose me
Edit: 250 likes. Thanks a lot!
Rather than run, you approach me?
So you're proud to play a cancerous characters ?
@@plumebrisee6206 i have even an inkling amiibo!
They have the best mashing of any player I've ever seen. Especially when they've been grabbed. You can only pummel a few times depending on your character.
This is the worst way of telling this joke lmao would've been batter without the shitry semicolon format
2:44 top 10 pictures taken moments before disaster
2:03 Captain Falcon: You're probably wondering how I got myself into this situation. It all started when I downtilted...
I’ve seen Joker CPUs try to use the grappling hook combos with Up B while Arsene is out, resulting in them using wings of rebellion while on stage and doing nothing.
"CPUs make no effort to dodge poison mushrooms"
Chrom: *dodges past the mushroom*
chrom: proceeds to turn back towards the mushroom and grab it on purpose
seriously are u guys watching the same video?
They're also absolutely braindead with projectiles. Most of my 9.9 runs on Classic are by characters with a charge shot for neutral; you can just spam the the fully charged shot right into the AI's face and they almost never think to get out of the way.
Something I've noticed while playing against lvl 8 CPU is that on the n64 Yoshi stage there is a cloud platform that can spawn on the far right of the stage. If they land on that platform while you are still on the main stage, they will panic, jump around the platform a little bit, and just SD when the platform vanishes
I'm not a game developer, but I cant imagine how hard it'd be to program competent AI for a game as interactive and eventful as Smash. Maybe it's more simple than I think, but I struggled to program even a little translator lol so this is just so phenomenal to me
Wow, you found a flaw in freaking ultimate? You deserve a gold medal.
looks at online* think again
@@AlloyAmi one word "buffering"
Ultimate is far from perfect. The buffering system is very flawed, online sucks, World of Light was a disappointment, and aside from stage builder the rest of the single player content is just okay (although that can be said about every Smash game to varying degrees). This isn’t to say it’s a bad game, theres just still plenty of room for improvement for Smash 6.
Safe smash attacks is just bad game design.
@@Tom-jw7ii so true I honestly prefer smash 4
Captain Falcon was only ignoring the crown because he knew he wasn't gonna get another game.
Also, as far as I've tested, CPUs playing as Wario never use his down b at full charge. Not even to get back onto a platform.
I have hardly ever gotten this many likes on one comment.
I’ve had CPUs do sick waft confirms on me but they tend to not use waft unless they know they will hit it
@@lucathompson9937 But they don't seem to use it to get onto a ledge. It is possible to use waft and then Wario's up b, isn't it?
@Carmen Candallo Nah, I'm only saying it to joke around.
Leoncer GAMING!!! True
Leoncer GAMING!!! You can recover from the blast zone using motorcycle then waft then up b
I remember In brawl at 2:30 they use to do taunts, be under the unbrella all of that god I miss brawl as a kid
I just realized that Captain Falcon at 2:54 on is treating the grounded crown like it still has a hitbox. He's throwing out a lot more defensive options when it's there and going in more once it despawns.
This should've been included as lvl 9 CPU's are very accurate in doing airdodge especially when you try to combo or edge guard them even when falling down.
6:30
I think 3 times is extremely generous wouldn’t you agree?
Lmao that Falcon knee on Bowser Bomb was godly
The AI will also always sit on the edge to try and guard Ike's side B recovery and always get hit.
Also, Joker keeps trying to combo with up B while Arsene is out, among other things
2:27 so the CPUs are basically cheating.
no, they are intentionally losing out on the advantages that come from winning at those minigames
How is that cheating?
Charizard cpus:
1) flare blitz after jump out of the ledge
2) then recover at the opposite ledge
3) repeat
Yes the charizard CPU is awful. They just spam flare blitz
The AI are evolving just backwards
"Computer AI will take over the world."
Computer AI: 0:24
“Honestly the AI is pretty good”
>Titles video “How *bad* is the AI in smash ultimate”
that's not how english works
He said its good it just have a few glich thats all he said
That last bit was hilarious XD
I like how the AI just got better.
Now the AI can dash dance and AI joker can do drag down combos
0:46
Captain falcon: *show your moves!*
Cloud: take this!
Captain falcon: *pathetic absolutely pathetic!*
Incorrect. It’s “Show *me* your moves!”
I can see that you were rushing for the first comment..
edge lord Say, have I seen you somewhere before?
@@riax3431 I don't care about the first comment.
I'm actually far from even having it.
And I see nothing wrong with the comment.
Of course, I saw multiple comments from you. I don't know if you paused at that part to write the comment. You should watch the video first. It was just weird to see multiple comments on one video from you when it barely came out.
6:20
Stage Builder stages would like to have a talk with you
Was just waiting for you to use Rest on broken hammer Byleth! :P
I hope they update the AI just to see an updated version of this.
0:13
Well, I mean, he's winning. Maybe _we_ are the ones who are bad?
He would he that on one stock
I’m pretty sure this doesn’t apply to level 9 cpus but level 8s will always air dodge if they are in the air on stage and you’re below them
Also level 9 cpus will mash out of anything bad quick as possible and always tech off stage but if hit downward onstage they sometimes won’t tech
Unity: CPUs tend to make no effort in dodging poison mushrooms.
Chrom: *dodges poison mushroom*
Me: well he doesn’t seem to have any trouble.
Chrom: *immediately walks right up to it and grabs it*
Me: ....never mind.
Meta Knight will sometimes SD when using his tornado near the edge of battlefield/omega stages.
At least since the last time I tested it he did
This is true. I’ve seen many times because all I do is play against CPUs on omega. Still cracks me up every time though
Inkling AI: *Observe*
What I found.
-If you hold shine at top platform in 3 platform stages (mainly yoshis story) mega man almost infinitely damages himself with Uair.
Cpus will often resort to options that don't make sense like smash attack on full shield/ counter.
-Other characters like Cloud will jump and throw their projectiles like pacman and occasionally Samus.
-The parry mechanic is seemingly automatic in cpus, and so they end up parrying the first hut of a multi-hit move, and being hit by the rest.
-Some cpu spam moves in bizarre ways. Like Marth charging shield breaker from a mile away, or Mario Dair right after being punished for using Dair.
-They rarely go off stage and usually resort to projectiles.
-They go for untrue combos really often (Kirby using down B to up smash)
What do you know, I had _just_ watched the 64 video earlier today and now this popped up in my recommendations.
They tend to spam with some characters like Ness’s PK Fire and Dr. Mario’s down B. Pretty annoying
Ness and Lucas always try to use PK Thunder on Humans too.
I don't see your problem. Spaming moves like PK fire is what every online player does.
@@DarkGamer364 they learned from the cpus
Or Pikachu/Pichu Thunderjolt or Mario Fireball.
@@lmtalpha6382 Any controllable Final Smashes on team battles.
They used do the Dont move and taunt mini game in the 3ds version NOT ANYMORE
Nice knowledge
@@8-bityboi just like they did in Brawl.
I think they revert back because the players exploit that mechanic (including me) but it was a nice touch
I’m mean I guss but it’s kinda but that they didn’t carry over the cpu s particition
At high percents, there are some moments where the computer players recover, but always end up going in the wrong direction, no matter how good the recovery is.
I noticed the Bullet Bill Blast Line ignorance when I was getting the Bullet Bill spirit.
I also noticed the Cloud glitch when I was fighting Master Blades.
3:53 it's evolving, but backwards.
I was asking myself if the AI in amiibos is capable of doing true combos, like joker's kill confirms, but I dont think they would be able to know when to use them, how to actually make them true ir even to make combos at all
I was able to teach my Incineroar amiibo a deadly combo, he ued it for some matches until he realized that spaming side b was more effective.
@@DarkGamer364 What moves did you teach It to use for the combo? Im just curious about the level of complexity in the combos they can learn
@@myespetfroge5624 I tried to teach them some grab into arial combos. I know thos combos are usally not so useful if you don't know how your opponent is going to DI but since AI can input read it wasn't to hard for my amiibos to master them. Especially my Piranha Plant was insane with that kind of combos.
@@DarkGamer364 ok thanks
@@myespetfroge5624 if you want to teach your amiibos combos like this,start with little combos. Only use 2-4 hit combos (with the same character of course) until they get the hang it .When you see that they are using said combo more frequently you can slowly extend it until they figure out their own way to finish you off.
6:09 They also have this habit of sending you up and trying to UpSmash you. Sometimes they will just spam/charge upsmash if you are anywhere above them.
I noticed that the Lucas CPU loves to spam up smash at really weird times which makes it super easy to punish him for that. He and the Ness CPU also love to use PK Thunder into themselves to kill with which makes playing any character with a counter against them quite easy.
The cpus take a long time to roll out of snake down throw which means you can dthrow to fsmash computers at certain percents and they will do nothing
I wonder how many ppl started fighting against AIs most often? So they don't want to play for online service when battling gamers around the world and experiencing lagging.
Online lag is hell at times. Makes certain characters look impossible to counter at times.
I play versus CPU because I am really bad at smash and any online game would probably result in me losing
@@MechMK1 if only online was consistent with offline
@@projectz358 The problem isn't really the lag. I'm just *terrible* at smash.
@@MechMK1 practice my brother, you'll get better
I LOVE this videos!!
0:30: Well, Banjo is still leading in stocks, so, yay for him?
0:45: ...Like 99% of the competitive crowd? That's not a bug; that's SHOTS FIRED from Sakurai.
3:30: Again, that's a bug?
Most cpu don't understand how the blast zone works or how special things like limit, shulks specials or anything like that works so thus they do very stupid mistakes that good have been avoided had they been programmed with the knowledge to understand such things.
But nope they are just like letting your young brother or sister play while you make them your punching bag.
"Blast lines"
They're called blast zones
Flarigrar i think in the game they call it blast lines
4:47 THE KNEE can't be fooled.
When CPU Joker's Arsene is out, he will always attempt to recover at a horizontal angle because he's programed to use his grappling hook. That makes him fly and land on the middle of the stage.
To be honest, ignoring the "dont move" in WarioWare can be a legit strat tho. Either your opponent doesn't budge and you get a free hit/kill in or he'll dodge and neither of you get a reward.
Or you can do them if you don't have too much damage.