When I made this video I had no idea it would gain so much attention and discussion, thank you to everyone who has taken the time to comment. I read every one. Just a couple of guidelines for contributing. These will be removed and the poster blocked from commenting on the channel... 1). Advocating or wishing harm, destruction or violence on any person or group of people. 2). Insulting people or groups of people based on their race, culture or religious beliefs. Not only are such comments wrong, but they may also bring down the wrath of TH-cam on the channel. So please keep the comments coming, but let's respect each other in the process. Thanks for understanding Chris.
You filmed and showed a racist city. You are the one who should be deleted. Shame on you, promoting the 'freedom' to be racist. Your conditions are racist. Be careful everyone! Do not mention the nazis or 40 years under Africaan oppression. The racist owner of this channel might delete your comment, like he'll do with mine.
There are thousands of town and villages that are black only in SA. Why the fuss about one for the africaners? Jealousy? The boers in Orania bought land of sub-par quality and made it flourish, proving the usefulness of cohesive, safe and homogenous societys.
@@christianitykiller5238 whose blood? When the dutch arrived the whole of Southern Africa was basically empty. The bantus had exterminated almost all of the Khoisan before. Then they left when they saw how arid it was. That is why khoisan hate the zulus. Number of black people in SA skyrocketed in 50's and 60's when the country became more and more prosperous. Masses of hungry blacks from the north moved in to get a piece of that paradise.
Black only towns? Why are you lying ? They are towns with black people only because the apartheid forced them to stay there small crowded areas. Oriana is nothing like that
@@Vulcaani What you said makes no sense. When the Dutch arrived they had a war with Khoi people in the cape, eventually the Khoi had to flee and join Xhosas who were in the Eastern cape. When the Europeans moved up the coasy they waged war on the Xhosa, then when they moved in land they waged war on the other Sotho Tswana tribes. Then they also moved back down to the eastern coast where they waged war with the Zulus. Zulus as a nation formed in the 1800s before that they were smaller scattered Nguni tribes. So it's nonsense when you say Zulus killed Khoisana. Also which Khwe people hate Zulus. You just made that up. It is the Europeans that drove the Khwe to extinction. They even put them in concentration camps in Namibia and were hunting them like game in SA.
As an American it's crazy how much that the towns and countryside looked like Texas, I knew that Afrikaner culture was similar to ours, but I forget just how similar they really are.
👍There is a place in the Northern Cape called "Hot as Hell"... The only black people who populated that area were the zkhoisan people.... They are campaigning for there own piece of land too.... Just like America there are different landscapes in different provinces... Check out our drakensberg mountains.
@@rosemarygodley8628 not Zkhoisan. just khoisan. there used to be the khoi and the san. the ORIGINAL nations of this country until the bantu came and wiped out most of them displaced the rest. two different groups, now all called one. and the san were brown. the dna differs from the black bantu dna. there are places where they DO have their own land. like griqualand is one. another is somewhere in the northern cape.
@@geed_8810 I am greek, i couldnt move to this town cause i have no afrikaner ancestory. same for an italian or a polish or whoever else may seem "white" to some or "european" to others but either way we arent afrikans and couldnt be in an afrikans only town. thats why its called that and not "whites only".
@@Slavic_Boer It's a small secluded area. You insinuating smth that is "stereotypical" . Educated and well off people have no reason to commit crimes contrarily to the opposite. Numbers will tell thereafter..and Poolsmoor prison [max security] has white people convicted of crimes. I wonder why ? 😉😄
Dear Anna, well, you may be right: There is no "CRIME" in Orania untill one day when someone arrives and enslaves you, killing your child and does what he or she wants with your loved nones. He goes on further, to take away your properties and denies you every right to exist, of which you will have to fight a long battle which you may loose! Now, will you describe it as a "CRIME" or do you have nice WORDS to cover up these TRAGEDIES ?? Again, consider that you were lucky to come out of these TROUBLES and you forgave him whilst he still keeps all your properties he stole away from you and he further proceeds moving away and starts to behave clearly as before. You know an African adage that Says: "He who is once bitten by a snake gets panic when he/she sees a millipede". Now the ball is in your court and I hope you will be sincere.
My first language is afrikaans, but I've always felt hesitant about Orania but I've never really heard anything negative about the place. I mean, even Malema was welcomed to visit, so hospitality must be good
The pursuit of self determination is an international human right. Christianity, God and Christian values is at the centre of these people. I heard an interview that they had about how their co-op bank is the most successful in the country. Grew it from 0 - R230 million. The man said that during Covid people were brought to their knees, due to the financial impact, but God kept them (Orania) on their feet.
I think the main attraction living here as opposed to the rest of SA is you can build something up be it a road or any form of infrastructure for that matter without the danger of it being destroyed through theft, incompetence or fire by those that seek to level everything to dust. A land of builders not burners.
White only? But I'm white and I can't live there because I don't meet the criteria. It's a crowd of people trying to preserve the Afrikaana heritage. My 2c worth
@@Armed-Forever White, Afrikaans, Protestant Christian. I'm white, spak Afrikaans perfectly but Jewish, served in the army in the apartheid years, I might qualify for an exemption.
People of every race should visit Orania. You will be treated with respect. Even though I am Afrikaans, I won't fit in there. But I still love the place.
Yes, and that creates envy, then jealousy, then hatred and White Man becomes evil. The Evil West? Yet as we know, these envious, jealous, hate filled people want to escape their own mire and go west. And they certainly have. Yet a small European group choose to form a community and it then becomes international news. What the ... - no, cannot print it. Love the Boks, from NZ.
@@basedness5205 Cleanliness is NOT about race, it's about attitude. I have seen people in the township deliberately littering saying that they are creating employment opportunities. And again, crime in the townships is NOT exacerbated by unemployment and/or poverty - it's a lifestyle. A few months ago, I was mugged at gun point by some guys driving a flashy car - IMAGINE! I am a Kasie guys born and bred in KwaMashu, 30 years of unemployment, never committed a crime. I make ends meet and have created my own ORANIA in my little shack. I have cut off news, tv, radio and newspapers - all they speak about is politics and corruption. Such a bore for me because as far as I am concerned, it is NOT just corruption, it's economic sabotage. Orania maybe racism as it is perceived to be - I maybe antisocial, it has paid off. I am now a graduate and a lecturer at a film school in Durban. There is no excuse for crime - it is just a lifestyle to those who do it. We need more places like Orania, and it maybe racist for all I care as long as people live in peace and harmony - and that's freedom.
It looks like a part of Europe.. you don’t kill our .. heritage , so proud of you guys, I wish the best.. Lithuania!! I wanna visit for a month and to spend as much as … this town to offer..
I don't wanna lie though, the idea of being independent from governments stupidity, which at the moment all South Africans can agree on is a good step forward. I'd also like to create an Orania for the AmaXhosa people only 😂. But I guess this is how things will become, people forming their own communities with like minded people. I favour more people to be independent and shouldn't rely on government especially one lead by the ANC. Please Note I only favour independency from government rule only.
Good luck to you! Living in independent communities with your own people is how we can all be happiest as humans, acknowledging our differences and living separately, but working together at the same time. The first step is having the land, which is owned by a company and people buy shares in the company.
The South Africa government just gave the complete Fish River Sun complex and all the land to Xhosa people. Even though they compensated another tribe for the lost land in 2016. Even though the developer original bought the land from the tribal leader. That is a perfect place to start a Xhosa town. The soil is rich, the river is big, it is on a stunning beach, and the hotel is already build.
We can all learn from this town. It clean and safe. No matter what race, sex or religion. Thats what we all want. Our cities should take tips from orania
@@basedness5205 the mess that is south africa now began with whites taking the land by force, now is just a healthy dose of karma. Having said that I do commend these people for their independence from the state, communities like that are the future, hopefully with no race in mind.
@@armandogavilan1815 Whites did take this land on force but they have build the country from nothing. Build the roads,building,companies,railways...everything you see now. Blacks have benefited from the segregation,they had everything they wanted,just they couldn't mix and be with Whites.
@@basedness5205 hahahhaha you mean blacks! Blacks built usa and south africa we should be grateful make them a monument and never forget a damned minute of our damned lives about it! HAHHAHAHAHHA
I wonder why, out of all the beautiful places in the world, you happen to want to visit Orania. Get that stick out of your ass it could cause an infection, lol.
You blacks are weird, you keep saying how ethnic Europeans are “evil” and yet, you wanna visit a town that’s catered to them only. Is like you want to cause havoc or something or to prove a point. I’m an Asian and I’ve no intention of visiting this town , unless I’m in that part of the region in SA travelling, but I won’t have a dream to solely go to this town like going to Rome or something. Leave those European ethnic people alone.
I'm from Canberra, 🇦🇺,.A nice quiet place this Orania town. I'm sure people are friendly and welcoming. But I also understand that they want to preserve their culture and way of living. That is fair enough. Thank you for sharing this short documentary of the town.
A phenomenal town filled with respect for one another. Very low crime and a wonderful place to raise ones children in the true Afrikaner culture. May Orania go from strength to strength.
Mijn broer en Zijn kinderen in j burg woonen. Ik heb angst over dat. Zijn kinderen Zijn zwaart en gekleured. Hij is Engels. Waarom blijven hij in ZA? Waarom? Dat is gek.
In Orania word nie Brits gepraat nie. Daar bly Boere Afrikaners met opregte eerlike lewensuitsigte. Hardwerkend en eerlik. Laat hulle in vrede. Orania, ons is trots op julle.
@@christianitykiller5238 You dont know the history of SA in terms of who lived on which part of Southern Africa, i suggest you stop letting arrogant politicians tell you what to think. Go the the library and educate yourself and stop being complacent. Besides with how poorly allot of African folk in SA treat the land, it wouldnt be wise to just hand it all over. Why do you think white areas are green and clean while African towns are sandy, no trees, and ridden with rubbish. No respect for mother earth what so ever. So much for people of the land. Its just an obvious fact of the two different peoples of SA. Also Africans kill each other in droves, and since 94 more African people have been killed by their own, than all the wars of the past combined. The people also voted ANC and EFF and they thrive on lying. So dont come here and think that the African people are pure, innocent because they never have been, just like everyone else. Also this is the modern world, you want land, you buy it.
The liberals(EU) hates this ideas... They want to rule over everyone with a iron fist... I hope other tribes can do the same in their communities to promote their own language, culture and traditions, because Western imperialists wants us all to speak English, follow their woke cultures and traditions at the expense of our own...
This is what happens when you leave Afrikaans to live on their own. The majority in South Africans can not achieve this. This is a compliment to Afrikaan culture and resourcefulness, and an embarrassment to those who expected the majority of their citizens to produce. In that aspect, I fear for the community, which will attract attention with their success. The current govt seems to look down on communities like this, I am sure their were many of these communities 40 years ago. I wish for their continued good fortune.
@@Armed-Forever Maybe they never had to, living where its always warm and available food all year round in some spots. They never tamed the horse or discovered the wheel. This is why vast parts of Africa were empty until the white man arrived and made the lands fertile. Then the black man flocked to where the white man was. Hope it doesn't happen with this beautiful place.
@@felixfedre518 i’m not talking about the past i’m talking now, these white men have a mental drive to build to create, black men rather just accumulate wealth for themselves or do nothing instead of building for a community, look at jamaica, shanty towns, white men would demolish it then re build, grow fruit and veg, be sec sufficient, work their way to prosperity, build wooden houses, black men don’t have that drive, i wouldn’t even say it’s laziness, just no leadership
It's good to know that white people have a place like this for white only because in other part of the world they are loosing their grip....they a need a place like this
I hear you, to be honest, for me, it would be a little too restricted, but there are many others to whom that is a benefit, I suppose each to their own.
@@j.langer5949 he doesn't have to explain in what way, it's just who he is. Many can't live happily in small towns and prefer cross cultural or cities. Simple.
For people who say reduce everything to colour of people’s skin. This is a town for afrikanners only, not white people, not all white people are afrikanner
Yeah, we had lunch there and walked around, talked to people and went into that shop. It was like going back in time. Really weird. We didn't stop overnight, though it would have been fun to do that.
It really is a beautiful town. My brother, my dad and his wife and I went on holiday there from the 27th of December to 2 January 2021-2022. We mostly stayed inside of the chalet we rented because it was quite hot, but from 7pm to 9pm my brother and I walked the entire town flat, watched all the houses being built and so on. We wen to monument hill, and saw all the greenery from up top, took a tour through the town with the bus and learnt more about the economy, population growth and history of the town as well as the formidable roleplayers and leaders who lived and or visited Orania, like Nelson Mandela, Bettie Verwoerd, Zuma and more recently the Indonesian Ambassadors. The town is growing rapidly, about 16% per year, with a 25% growth in industry, which is really amazing for a small town, especially in the Northern Cape of all places where even the big cities have a negative population and economic growth rate.
Why America ? Black Americans are one of the most hard-working and talented people within the black diaspora! Every community in America has it's own flaws ..i.e most serial killers & cult leaders in America are WHITE
@@godzilla001 The comments were removed by the uploader of this video. The people I refered to come out in droves on Twitter, Facebook and TH-cam to slander the town and call it all sorts of names and going as far as to threaten burning the town down.
@@-scrim Ignore him, this person is clearly some African guy who allowed our current corrupt government or the Radical EFF tell him what to think. In South Africa we have a problem with much of the majority thinking they have claim to the entire country and have been lead to believe that the whites, bullied them off of it. Which is actually funny as much of the Zulu people actually came from up North down and almost wiped out the actual original people of Southern Africa. Sadly much of the majority, are not the types who self educate and instead gain their knowledge from gossip and whatever some corrupt politician tells them what the history is like to forward their own agenda. In short, we have an Idiot problem. Like Mr Christian Killer here, a radical bigot no doupt. Sort of person an Afrikaner would have no issue slapping the shit out of.
Don't lie. Orania is very rural and lacks a lot of stuff. I think there's bits of racial superiority complex that makes people think everything in Orania is the best. I saw someone post a swimming pool in Orania saying, South Africa doesn't have swimming pools like that. It gets ridiculous
This is amazing for culture to retain like this. It is amazing like a piece of Europe in South Africa. I hope everyone should make more places in this with their own culture in different countries.
Yes, while all is well I think the least said the better. Unfortunately, if the worst happens, TH-cam will be first to shut down any reporting on the subject, that is after main stream media have shut it down.
@@phillipsidhojapap1461 not wrong about saying that, there are areas in which Indian communities won't allow black people and black communities won't allow any others. However orania shouldn't be viewed as a racist area, it's a place where a group of people practice their right to preserve their beliefs, infact instead of orania branching into SA, communities should learn how to do the same all over. We live in a time where there is no need for government... so no this comment though harsh isn't actually racist even though some might say it is.. in short its stay in your lane and IL be in mine.. if you want to stay in orania, then start your own
@@adelechetty4304 culture is dynamic and so they are in a futile journey if you think their quest is to preserve culture. Cultures can only be preserved in museums. This is racial segregation veiled in a pious attempt to 'preserve culture.' its cultural bullshit. Let them preserve their culture in Europe and stop this idiocy
I was very impressed by the agricultural areas. Im guessing thats the main industry of the town which looks prosperous and safe. No electric fences and razor wire like elsewhere in the country.
It's certainly different. For the uninitiated the Irish Monument honours the Irish volunteers who fought for the Boer nation between1899-1902 against the British.
@@Kangela yes they were called the mcbride brigade. 200 elite fighters sent to south africa to stand with tge boers aganst tge british. The irish also sent an army to fight in the spanish cival war. We had a great 5 weeks in south africa. We were well recieved by everybody.
I disagree that it’s white by default. So many Coloured people are first language Afrikaans speakers and they could identify as Afrikaners and be welcomed there if they met the settlement criteria that is not based on race. It’s not impossible that Black South Africans could settle there too if they identified as Afrikaners culturally and linguistically.
@@winco68 Afrikaners are only White, like the Germans the Polish ect ect. If they are gonna allow non Whites to live there then what even is the point of Orania?
I wish we had a place like that in America, it would really decrease the racial tension. Whites in a all white city and blacks in one. Hire your own and us that have mix relationships can be happy away from those who want to be left alone. This is a fantastic idea - love it
We had that before you people came and exploited us as slaves and commodities. What do you expect following years of injustice.? Your foolish solution is segregate by race, why not by class since there is also class tension.?? I guess it's mentalities like yours which got us where we are now
The USA did it for a brief period. Black people created their own prosperous community called 'Black Wall Street', which the US government decided to burn to the ground over some staged provocation.
@@Slavic_Boer 😀😆 In reality Orania's population would not even qualify for statehood ...maybe a club/society ...tbh you just jumping the gun. I have no jeslousy for Orania but if affluent or well off, number of people, decide to establish smth like a community chances are WITH CO-OPERATION & a well thought out STRATEGY [not limited to this only these two things ] it will succeed regardless of identity. 🙂 ..include vetting out individuals eligible to join the community. In this instance it's WHITE AFRIKAANS CONSERVATIVES with similar grassroot values !
Lovely idea. Its absolutely needed to have segregation. Its nice to see a town holding strong. Nothing wrong with staying separate and building individual communities.
We all need a Constitution that allows for that otherwise the Thuggy boys will figure a way to overwhelm where you live with 'other's who don't believe in your culture - race - religion - etc - and if it's a small locality - what's the problem
Certainly on my bucket list and have a huge respect for their successful growth rate which allegedly surpasses any other town or city in SA. Please do your research on their GDP.
Wow didn't know such a place existed in South Africa, this is beautiful...i would love to pass by sometime but most unfortunately I would not be welcomed🙈
We had to pass through there to fill up and the people were friendly to my two non-white colleagues, they treated us well and we did not feel unwelcome... The waitress was even speaking broken English but they accommodated us. Changed my view.
The fact that an Irish tri colour is flying is very very interesting. Orania probably means 'orange' after the Dutch 'house of orange'. The 'Prince of Orange' was a Dutch Protestant. He was certainly not an Irish Roman Catholic. The Irish 'supported' the afrikaans but most certainly do not hold their religious faith. The Dutch legacy in Ireland is seen in houses with 'Dutch' gable walls. These were built to show 'loyalty' to the 'Prince of orange' after whom the 'orange river' is named. The 'house of orange' thus is remembered both in South Africa and Ireland. The 'faith' of the Dutch is a 'reformed' faith and this is neither Anglican or Roman Catholic. There are 'monuments' to the afrikaans in Ireland but the total opposite 'faiths' of each group are conveniently forgotten. I wonder why?
Thanks for the comment George. The Irish monument in Orania is to honour the Irish volunteers, and there were quite a few of them, who fought with the Boers against the English in the Boer Wars of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
@@Kangela That is correct. If you visit the graveyard of the Roman Catholic Cathedral in my city you will also find a 'memorial' to the 'Irish Volunteers' who fought along side the Boers. Their 'common enemy' the British. There is also a Boer War monument to the Irish Soldiers who died while fighting for the British Army, as Ireland at the time was still part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. At the Easter Uprising in Dublin in 1916, the rifles of the volunteers had the inscription on them 'remember the boers'. The 'Uprising' in Ireland was also based upon the idea of the 'blood sacrifice'. This was the idea that they were laying down their lives for Ireland. Today the orange element in Ireland is represented by the Institution of the 'orange order', an organisation based on religious principles. Many in this order are devout reformed Christians and take their faith very seriously. The 'green patriots' have a faith based on 'worship' of Ireland and the Roman Catholic Church. Those of the reformed faith in the present Republic of Ireland are a small minority who quietly 'practice their faith', just as the afrikaans still do to this day. Most reformed Christians moved North because they wanted to be free to practice their faith. In the total population of Ireland North and South they are still a minority, just as the afrikaans are a minority in the whole of South Africa.
@@georgefrazer2231 Thank you George, that's most interesting, especially since my own background is Irish. In fact my late grandfather could reliably trace his ancestry back to one Connal O'Moore, who lived between 1435 and 1495 in the area around Laois in County Wicklow (it gets a bit murky further back than that 😉). The farm where my grandfather grew up, Spring Farm, is still there, near the village of Kilcoole in Wicklow, although it's now an Airbnb and is sadly no longer in the family 😢.
Only 2 thousand people? In the event of a serious conflict, they will simply be rolled out with armored vehicles and that's it, finita.If they want to stay there, then increase their number to at least 20 thousand, plus their production, such as the production of electricity, fuel, food and metals and their products.
The population is increasing very fast. Faster than everywhere else. From 1600 to 2500 in just 4 years. They have just recently started producing their own electricity with solar panels or something I don't know exactly. And as far as I know they are pretty selfreliable with food.
The ANC government inherited one of the strongest, best trained and respected defence forces in Africa. They have turned it into crap, as they have done with everything else they took over. Mostly through affirmative action, cadre deployment, sheer imcompetence and rampant corruption. Have a look at how fat and unfit the average current soldier in SA is. Useless. I doubt they have the ability to succesfully attack a flock of sheep, let alone a settlement like Orania, where most of the male residents would have been members of the former SA Defence force. The current bunch of idiots saw their arses in Lesotho... I don't think the residents of Orania would loose any sleep over such a threat scenario...
@@henkverwaard9025 Maybe you are right about something, but you forgot important points, there can be much more of those who come, for 1 of your 30 of them, and all of them will be with weapons. And if you don’t have heavy machine guns, heavy artillery and mortars, there are no minefields and prepared defense, then your fate will be sad in the end.And let me know, do you live in Orania yourself?
@@sla1655 SMH its not about establishing military outpost, that would send all the wrong signals. They are aiming to build a successful separatist state, they will develop their police force but not much more than that.
Your video doesn't address many questions that arises...e.g. is it open to visitors other than whites.? do they have non-white workers , is the holiday resort open to everyone....can non-whites move there to live....
It is way out in the middle of nowhere. Most people don't want to live there. Until of course it is very much developed, and then there will be millions who don't know who their father is who will claim that their forefathers somehow owned exactly the piece of land with the most expensive modern house on it. Yes others visit Orania of course. Buying a property is difficult because - all the properties are already bought, and new developments focus on the cultural group.
Some black politicians went there. All were treated with dignity. And they all were very impressed. It is a nice place for a stop over. Breakfast on the Orange river. All the property is private land, even the streets. They will only sell you land if you meet their strict criteria. And that is mostly their culture, their church, their language. A lot like the Amish, but with modern vehicles and farming techniques.
On every street, white people are visible undertaking work that elsewhere in the country is almost always performed by black people, from construction to cleaning. “We do all our own work. Compare that to the average estate in Pretoria or Johannesburg, where you live in a gated community, surrounded by people of the same income level, and get people from townships travelling for hours to come clean your toilets.”
Ai, some black politicians went there to look at Orania. All were treated with respect, and all gave a glowing review. There are no gates so you can drive right up to the gas station, or the restaurants, or the shopping centrums. Or wherever you want.
I guess you don’t have access to Google Maps. But rest assured, it’s very close to the centre of the country. And, the Northern Cape is most definitely not in the East, the name kind of gives it away a little.
@@Kangela That's right! The west of the country, to the north of the western cape. The country is shaped funny. Not even Bloemfontein is in the middle.
I don't resent or blame these Volks because black South Africa is its own enemy but they like pointing fingers at white volks...these people take themselves seriously as a community I respect that.
There's a lot we don't understand about our South African Constitution some of us. Did this constitution allow these folks to have a village Orania strictly White Afrikaners only inside South Africa? Also these folks to have their own currency? So, if maybe this constitution has allowed them to be by themselves and have their own things in their own space and do as they wish, own currency, culture, schools everything of their own, Now a question is: Why is it wrong for them to use this flag they love so dearly in their own Orania? The flag belongs to them. May somebody explain how does it work please? 🙏✌️
The entire area is privately owned by Vluytjeskraal Aandeleblok (Ltd) so technically they can say who's allowed on their property. They do _not_ have a constitution but do have Ts&Cs occupants must comply to (as seen on the noticeboard on entry). They do not have their own currency as they trade with ZAR. since they don't have their own Minting division/Finance department, moreso since they don't have a full blown government that require these things They still use the resources of South Africa. Them doing what they want on their private property is not a problem because, well, it's private property. Please do remember that this is just a 'town' that is actually in a private property; it is *not* a separate establishment
@@normanrongee2564 it's private property. Who may enter that property is the owner's right. Using that right, they reserve the right to thereby restrict who they want in or not. They don't disallow black people - they block anyone they like. Like non-Christian can't enter either
@@godzilla001 They'd be smart to block anybody - white or black or other for whatever reason that have a problem with their way of being there is a ton of land in South Africa - leave them alone
@@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st as I said in my previous comments, they own the private property so they can allow/restrict whoever they want... Not seeing where I was against them at all so don't get why I need to "leave them alone"?
Ah, advice from Zimbabwe, one of the top 5 failed states on the planet! Regardless of what we might think on a personal level about whether Orania is a good thing or a bad thing, Zimbabwe DEFINITELY doesn't spring to mind as an alternative "way".
You know Orania is in the semi desert Karoo right? There are thousands of square miles along the orania river to develop. Just buy the land from the government and start building....You know...like Orania did.
I stand to be corrected but as far as I understand the monument honours the many Irish volunteers who fought with the Boers against the English in the Boer wars.
@@Kangela interesting! Hoping to travel to south Africa for the first time from Ireland next summer! Maybe something to research and go visit while I am there
Can people of colour stay at the lodge it looks great. Also I've always been extremely curious as to how oranje started and how its thriving. Truly amazing and inspiring. If each little suburb in SA operated this way we would be much better off
As far as I know I believe all races are welcome to visit there. It's a cultural community and whites is working the fields. There is nothing that can be called slavery. I believe it's a peaceful and very crime free place where Afrikaners can live in peace. Much like so many village people in South-Africa. I have friends that came from villages and they are very proud of their heritage and believes. Same with these people in Orania. Would love to live there myself one day as I'm very proud of my culture🥰 And I hate racism.
Lol person of colour. .. intoni uthanda i'sinto nje? Go visit Lerato kganyago's hotel ! Always prepared to support non-black owned joints ... why ? One thing we can learn from the people of Orania is to start understanding each other and support each other .
Orania does quite well out of it's tourist industry as people of all colours come from all over SA to ooh and ah over the only town in SA with practically no crime or unemployment.
This situation scares me. i feel that the government is allowing this to happen on purpose, waiting for the town to get bigger and develop more and as soon as this town reaches a considerable size, the south african government will come with the army, and take it over one day. in my opinion, there's a reason why the south african government has allowed this segregation town to exist, they are just biding their time it seems.
@@kazer353 I have no idea! As I took great pains to mention, this channel, and this video, isn't about the right or wrong of the place. It isn't an attempt to ask whether it would happen in this or that country or continent, nor does it represent my own views or preferences. And, it's neither promoting nor condemning the town or the people who make a choice to live there. The ONLY purpose of the video is to show anybody who has an interest, a place that is unique in South Africa and maybe the world. I hope that helps answer your question.
@@Kangela lol history show us when white people stick together and isolate from other they get crazy thoughts nazi Germany ……………. Now in western cape white want to Succeed from the country don’t you think that would lead to a civil war.
Clean, Peaceful town where everything works and where you can walk outside at night and children can play outside without fears of being kidnapped or molested. No need even to lock your car or your house.
So what? If blacks do this it is fine. Let's take a look at the direction of south Africa today it looks a lot worse than 20 years ago. If anyone is alive in 20 years compare it even more to today.
You want Jesus to bless a town where only some people are allowed? You want Him to bless a place where not all of His children are welcome? You think there’s gonna different sections in Heaven based on your color? You must be joking!
Nothing here to see, a lot of construction going on but did not see any thing being constructed a bustling town did not see a person don't know if it's a busting.
Solong you don't fight each other it will be a blessing from the almighty God because he is the only judge to many kinds let your combination be the will of God keep it well
Need cities like this in the US and Canada.
And Europe.
My wife and i spent 2 nights in Oranja what a beautiful town streets are clean people respect each other no crime we were treated with respect.❤❤❤
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Hey Chris, great video. I am thrilled and wish we could have a chat Nichodemously.
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@@thakhomedia6724 Thank you Thakho.
Go do this in europe .africa 8s for a black people .😡
You filmed and showed a racist city. You are the one who should be deleted.
Shame on you, promoting the 'freedom' to be racist. Your conditions are racist.
Be careful everyone! Do not mention the nazis or 40 years under Africaan oppression.
The racist owner of this channel might delete your comment, like he'll do with mine.
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There are thousands of town and villages that are black only in SA. Why the fuss about one for the africaners? Jealousy? The boers in Orania bought land of sub-par quality and made it flourish, proving the usefulness of cohesive, safe and homogenous societys.
@@christianitykiller5238 whose blood? When the dutch arrived the whole of Southern Africa was basically empty. The bantus had exterminated almost all of the Khoisan before. Then they left when they saw how arid it was. That is why khoisan hate the zulus.
Number of black people in SA skyrocketed in 50's and 60's when the country became more and more prosperous. Masses of hungry blacks from the north moved in to get a piece of that paradise.
Black only towns? Why are you lying ? They are towns with black people only because the apartheid forced them to stay there small crowded areas. Oriana is nothing like that
@@for_fun2470 , how many whites are there in the hart of Zululand ?
@@henkackermann9986 even if it was none, blame the apartheid system
@@Vulcaani What you said makes no sense. When the Dutch arrived they had a war with Khoi people in the cape, eventually the Khoi had to flee and join Xhosas who were in the Eastern cape. When the Europeans moved up the coasy they waged war on the Xhosa, then when they moved in land they waged war on the other Sotho Tswana tribes. Then they also moved back down to the eastern coast where they waged war with the Zulus.
Zulus as a nation formed in the 1800s before that they were smaller scattered Nguni tribes. So it's nonsense when you say Zulus killed Khoisana. Also which Khwe people hate Zulus. You just made that up. It is the Europeans that drove the Khwe to extinction. They even put them in concentration camps in Namibia and were hunting them like game in SA.
As an American it's crazy how much that the towns and countryside looked like Texas, I knew that Afrikaner culture was similar to ours, but I forget just how similar they really are.
👍There is a place in the Northern Cape called "Hot as Hell"... The only black people who populated that area were the zkhoisan people.... They are campaigning for there own piece of land too.... Just like America there are different landscapes in different provinces... Check out our drakensberg mountains.
🇿🇦God, guns, biltong, braaing, bakkies, rugby. 🇺🇸 God, guns, jerky, bbq, pickup trucks, football. We're cousins :)
@@rosemarygodley8628 not Zkhoisan. just khoisan. there used to be the khoi and the san. the ORIGINAL nations of this country until the bantu came and wiped out most of them displaced the rest. two different groups, now all called one. and the san were brown. the dna differs from the black bantu dna. there are places where they DO have their own land. like griqualand is one. another is somewhere in the northern cape.
Seriously though. They're pioneers, too!
All thats missing is the confederate flag
The only safe town in South Africa with no crime.
Thanks for the video of the town. Very nice looking place, I'm very proud of those people there.
I'm glad you enjoyed it Luke.
Racist much?
I agree , if the different tribes have their own homelands , so why can’t the Afrikaners have theirs???
It's not a white-only town, it's an Afrikaner only town. It's not different than the so-called "Black Tribal Homelands."
Where there are no white people insight. But again people won't find anything wrong with it.
Luckely an Afrikaner town.
an afrikaner only town is the same as a whites only town and what would be the problem if they did just say it was a whites only town?
@@geed_8810 It provokes much more negative thoughts
@@geed_8810 I am greek, i couldnt move to this town cause i have no afrikaner ancestory. same for an italian or a polish or whoever else may seem "white" to some or "european" to others but either way we arent afrikans and couldnt be in an afrikans only town. thats why its called that and not "whites only".
There's no crime.in Orania is peace.God bless them.
@@Slavic_Boer It's a small secluded area.
You insinuating smth that is "stereotypical" . Educated and well off people have no reason to commit crimes contrarily to the opposite. Numbers will tell thereafter..and
Poolsmoor prison [max security] has white people convicted of crimes. I wonder why ? 😉😄
@@rdm3373 what do you mean by that. I will bet all I have that smaller communities of other culture will for sure have crime.
Dear Anna,
well, you may be right: There is no "CRIME" in Orania untill one day when someone arrives and enslaves you, killing your child and does what he or she wants with your loved nones. He goes on further, to take away your properties and denies you every right to exist, of which you will have to fight a long battle which you may loose!
Now, will you describe it as a "CRIME" or do you have nice WORDS to cover up these
TRAGEDIES ??
Again, consider that you were lucky to come out of these TROUBLES and you forgave him whilst he still keeps all your properties he stole away from you and he further proceeds moving away and starts to behave clearly as before.
You know an African adage that Says:
"He who is once bitten by a snake gets panic when he/she sees a millipede".
Now the ball is in your court and I hope you will be sincere.
that's because Orania is the crime
Excelent mini-doc.
Respect from Brazil.
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Thank you 🙏
What is the meaning of Orania?
Orania means “heaven”.
My first language is afrikaans, but I've always felt hesitant about Orania but I've never really heard anything negative about the place. I mean, even Malema was welcomed to visit, so hospitality must be good
I found it very hospitable.
It's not only Afrikaans people living there. There are English-speaking South Africans there as well.
Seeing a bit more about the place it does make one curious. i would definitely make a stop there next time I travel in that direction
@@mary-annebrink8578 lol have you forgot English people are white too? The “Afrikaans only town” is just a sugar-coating the real meaning of it
@@for_fun2470 yes, that's the point. Funny how whites only towns are functional and have no crime
The pursuit of self determination is an international human right. Christianity, God and Christian values is at the centre of these people. I heard an interview that they had about how their co-op bank is the most successful in the country. Grew it from 0 - R230 million. The man said that during Covid people were brought to their knees, due to the financial impact, but God kept them (Orania) on their feet.
well they can find that overseas
I think the main attraction living here as opposed to the rest of SA is you can build something up be it a road or any form of infrastructure for that matter without the danger of it being destroyed through theft, incompetence or fire by those that seek to level everything to dust.
A land of builders not burners.
Beautiful place to live, I wish this place would be transformed from town into a republic.
Maybe in about 40-50 years to reach a population of 20,000+ to be classified as a city. Orania's current population growth is in the 15-20% range.
Na dann viel Glück!
you will understand when you grow.
Ian Smith thought likewise!
Sa sera pour bientôt leurs populations est en passe de passer à 10000 habitants
Too small to be a republic.
White only? But I'm white and I can't live there because I don't meet the criteria. It's a crowd of people trying to preserve the Afrikaana heritage. My 2c worth
what’s the criteria ?
@@Armed-Forever White, Afrikaans, Protestant Christian. I'm white, spak Afrikaans perfectly but Jewish, served in the army in the apartheid years, I might qualify for an exemption.
@@normangoldstuck8107 i’m jewish too 😗
@@normangoldstuck8107 I think that sort of defeats the point. Prehaps there should be a similar community for Jewish people in SA.
People of every race should visit Orania. You will be treated with respect. Even though I am Afrikaans, I won't fit in there. But I still love the place.
ORANIA!!! At least someone made part of this world a better place. This REALLY changed my (general) perception about this town. I'm loving it!!!
White people's they just symbolizes the serpent
someone needs to study white men, wherever they go, they create they build
Yes, and that creates envy, then jealousy, then hatred and White Man becomes evil. The Evil West? Yet as we know, these envious, jealous, hate filled people want to escape their own mire and go west. And they certainly have. Yet a small European group choose to form a community and it then becomes international news. What the ... - no, cannot print it. Love the Boks, from NZ.
as an African i will say that is true
you will understand when you grow.
Ian Smith thought likewise.
The earlier you begin to understand, the better.
True statement. All through out history whites build and prosper.
they do study them, wherever they go, create and build. see below:
ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-67
At least they used their God given brains to do better for themselves.
Last time I visited Orania was back in 2003 it still looks intact and idyllic
so black people are welcomed to visit there? that's what I've always wanted to know.
You should go visit again. You will not recognise the place. So much development sice 2003
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You can visit but you can't live there.
@@basedness5205 thank you for responding
It has changed a LOT since then, all for the better. Lots of new coffee shops, new paving, new houses are going up all the time. NO CRIME.
When u said u can’t comment on the wrong or right of it u earned my respect. U left politics out of a beautiful n informative documentary.
Thank you Kim 🙏
Beautiful looking community. Hopefully they remain their heritage and don’t capitulate
@Zambanu Iboke Whites leave and your country will collapse like Zimbabwe. Btw, Whites founded South Africa and developed it. Learn your own history
What stands out is how CLEAN it is! I live in KZN and it is fast becoming a rubbish dump.....
Because Orania is White.
Well, then carry on.
You will understand when you grow.
it's not the ethnic diversity keeping it nice LOL
@@basedness5205 Cleanliness is NOT about race, it's about attitude. I have seen people in the township deliberately littering saying that they are creating employment opportunities.
And again, crime in the townships is NOT exacerbated by unemployment and/or poverty - it's a lifestyle. A few months ago, I was mugged at gun point by some guys driving a flashy car - IMAGINE!
I am a Kasie guys born and bred in KwaMashu, 30 years of unemployment, never committed a crime. I make ends meet and have created my own ORANIA in my little shack.
I have cut off news, tv, radio and newspapers - all they speak about is politics and corruption. Such a bore for me because as far as I am concerned, it is NOT just corruption, it's economic sabotage.
Orania maybe racism as it is perceived to be - I maybe antisocial, it has paid off. I am now a graduate and a lecturer at a film school in Durban. There is no excuse for crime - it is just a lifestyle to those who do it.
We need more places like Orania, and it maybe racist for all I care as long as people live in peace and harmony - and that's freedom.
It looks like a part of Europe.. you don’t kill our .. heritage , so proud of you guys, I wish the best.. Lithuania!! I wanna visit for a month and to spend as much as … this town to offer..
Proud of a white only town in Africa something must be wrong with you
@@julymowautse8568 the whole world is against them, yet they flourish.
@@julymowautse8568 What exactly?
Can africans have a part of Europe ?
@@nishen1 In fact, they have. They are replacing the native populations in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc.
I don't wanna lie though, the idea of being independent from governments stupidity, which at the moment all South Africans can agree on is a good step forward. I'd also like to create an Orania for the AmaXhosa people only 😂. But I guess this is how things will become, people forming their own communities with like minded people. I favour more people to be independent and shouldn't rely on government especially one lead by the ANC. Please Note I only favour independency from government rule only.
Good luck to you! Living in independent communities with your own people is how we can all be happiest as humans, acknowledging our differences and living separately, but working together at the same time. The first step is having the land, which is owned by a company and people buy shares in the company.
The South Africa government just gave the complete Fish River Sun complex and all the land to Xhosa people. Even though they compensated another tribe for the lost land in 2016. Even though the developer original bought the land from the tribal leader. That is a perfect place to start a Xhosa town. The soil is rich, the river is big, it is on a stunning beach, and the hotel is already build.
We can all learn from this town. It clean and safe. No matter what race, sex or religion. Thats what we all want. Our cities should take tips from orania
Race and religion matters to them. And to us it should too.
@@basedness5205 the mess that is south africa now began with whites taking the land by force, now is just a healthy dose of karma. Having said that I do commend these people for their independence from the state, communities like that are the future, hopefully with no race in mind.
@@armandogavilan1815
Whites did take this land on force but they have build the country from nothing.
Build the roads,building,companies,railways...everything you see now.
Blacks have benefited from the segregation,they had everything they wanted,just they couldn't mix and be with Whites.
@@basedness5205 hahahhaha you mean blacks! Blacks built usa and south africa we should be grateful make them a monument and never forget a damned minute of our damned lives about it! HAHHAHAHAHHA
@@armandogavilan1815 And Who's building plans did they use? Who payed them to do the work?
Think before you comment
AS a black person am i allowed to visit Orania on holiday, i live abroad currently
Phone oom Jan van Riebeeck 🤣
I wonder why, out of all the beautiful places in the world, you happen to want to visit Orania. Get that stick out of your ass it could cause an infection, lol.
Serious question, why do you want to go there?
You blacks are weird, you keep saying how ethnic Europeans are “evil” and yet, you wanna visit a town that’s catered to them only. Is like you want to cause havoc or something or to prove a point. I’m an Asian and I’ve no intention of visiting this town , unless I’m in that part of the region in SA travelling, but I won’t have a dream to solely go to this town like going to Rome or something. Leave those European ethnic people alone.
@@nedflanders7188 prob because it looks nice ? lol
It's clear that these people of Orania are extremely industrious and hard-working. No condemnation there, at all.
I'm from Canberra, 🇦🇺,.A nice quiet place this Orania town. I'm sure people are friendly and welcoming. But I also understand that they want to preserve their culture and way of living. That is fair enough. Thank you for sharing this short documentary of the town.
Thanks for the comment Olibear, I’m glad you found it interesting.
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as a Pakistani I'm gonna immigrate to Australia and preserve my own way of life. thanks for the tip.
@@houseofballoons4788As in the UK there’s no shortage here.
@@houseofballoons4788 Muslims are doing that all over the world in so called 'infidel' nations.
A phenomenal town filled with respect for one another. Very low crime and a wonderful place to raise ones children in the true Afrikaner culture. May Orania go from strength to strength.
Pragtige dorp waar kinders en bejaardes vrylik kan rondbeweeg sonder om benoud en bang te wees.
Mijn broer en Zijn kinderen in j burg woonen. Ik heb angst over dat. Zijn kinderen Zijn zwaart en gekleured. Hij is Engels. Waarom blijven hij in ZA? Waarom? Dat is gek.
I love white people. We have a right to exist.
In Orania word nie Brits gepraat nie. Daar bly Boere Afrikaners met opregte eerlike lewensuitsigte. Hardwerkend en eerlik. Laat hulle in vrede. Orania, ons is trots op julle.
Yes, that was my problem when I wanted to book a room. Not very tourist friendly 😅
Jip
@Zambanu Iboke As jy skrik, skrik net wakker👹👹
So Orania is like their makhaya's
Thats why I love living in Orania. My mense !!!!
i have no problem with that, as I don't have any problem with the Amish people. They don't bother you, and they don't even get any government money.
Eish if they did this from the beginning it would have been better in SA today,. It is really beautiful and peaceful.
Because it’s a white town if it was a black Town they‘ll pay them to kill each other.
@@mariedestrat3834 I'm black, but I have to agree with you, when it comes to killing each we are disgrace
@@christianitykiller5238 You dont know the history of SA in terms of who lived on which part of Southern Africa, i suggest you stop letting arrogant politicians tell you what to think. Go the the library and educate yourself and stop being complacent. Besides with how poorly allot of African folk in SA treat the land, it wouldnt be wise to just hand it all over. Why do you think white areas are green and clean while African towns are sandy, no trees, and ridden with rubbish. No respect for mother earth what so ever. So much for people of the land. Its just an obvious fact of the two different peoples of SA. Also Africans kill each other in droves, and since 94 more African people have been killed by their own, than all the wars of the past combined. The people also voted ANC and EFF and they thrive on lying. So dont come here and think that the African people are pure, innocent because they never have been, just like everyone else. Also this is the modern world, you want land, you buy it.
The liberals(EU) hates this ideas... They want to rule over everyone with a iron fist... I hope other tribes can do the same in their communities to promote their own language, culture and traditions, because Western imperialists wants us all to speak English, follow their woke cultures and traditions at the expense of our own...
can still happen my friend, will take a lot of work, & working together
This is what happens when you leave Afrikaans to live on their own. The majority in South Africans can not achieve this. This is a compliment to Afrikaan culture and resourcefulness, and an embarrassment to those who expected the majority of their citizens to produce. In that aspect, I fear for the community, which will attract attention with their success. The current govt seems to look down on communities like this, I am sure their were many of these communities 40 years ago. I wish for their continued good fortune.
We all want that.
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@@felixfedre518 african men do not have this type of drive like the white man , idk why
@@Armed-Forever Maybe they never had to, living where its always warm and available food all year round in some spots. They never tamed the horse or discovered the wheel.
This is why vast parts of Africa were empty until the white man arrived and made the lands fertile. Then the black man flocked to where the white man was. Hope it doesn't happen with this beautiful place.
@@felixfedre518 i’m not talking about the past i’m talking now, these white men have a mental drive to build to create, black men rather just accumulate wealth for themselves or do nothing instead of building for a community, look at jamaica, shanty towns, white men would demolish it then re build, grow fruit and veg, be sec sufficient, work their way to prosperity, build wooden houses, black men don’t have that drive, i wouldn’t even say it’s laziness, just no leadership
It's good to know that white people have a place like this for white only because in other part of the world they are loosing their grip....they a need a place like this
Heaven. Westerners take note.
Beautiful place! If I were an Afrikaner that is where I'd live!
I hear you, to be honest, for me, it would be a little too restricted, but there are many others to whom that is a benefit, I suppose each to their own.
@@Kangela Restricted in what way?
@@j.langer5949 he doesn't have to explain in what way, it's just who he is. Many can't live happily in small towns and prefer cross cultural or cities. Simple.
That place is very clean....I love it...
For people who say reduce everything to colour of people’s skin. This is a town for afrikanners only, not white people, not all white people are afrikanner
It need to stay that way if it doesn’t it should be demolished
We went there many moons ago now with Pete (Hodder) and it was really quite a nice place.
That's fantastic, I didn't realise you had been there, let alone Pete.
Yeah, we had lunch there and walked around, talked to people and went into that shop. It was like going back in time. Really weird. We didn't stop overnight, though it would have been fun to do that.
Hey was old Pete there, old bliksem
@@Enoch940 Possibly, I didn't meet anybody of that name though.
It really is a beautiful town. My brother, my dad and his wife and I went on holiday there from the 27th of December to 2 January 2021-2022.
We mostly stayed inside of the chalet we rented because it was quite hot, but from 7pm to 9pm my brother and I walked the entire town flat, watched all the houses being built and so on.
We wen to monument hill, and saw all the greenery from up top, took a tour through the town with the bus and learnt more about the economy, population growth and history of the town as well as the formidable roleplayers and leaders who lived and or visited Orania, like Nelson Mandela, Bettie Verwoerd, Zuma and more recently the Indonesian Ambassadors.
The town is growing rapidly, about 16% per year, with a 25% growth in industry, which is really amazing for a small town, especially in the Northern Cape of all places where even the big cities have a negative population and economic growth rate.
Thank you so much for taking the time to contribute your own experience.
@@christianitykiller5238 Not stolen, ever!
@@christianitykiller5238 What do you mean? Do you have any proves?
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And apartheid lives on veiled in preserving culture.. what ludicrousity!!!
Orania being whites only town doesn't bother me at all as a black person people from there are just minding their own business.
Millions of pairs of eyes across the river IN THE BUSCH eyeing out the place to overrun it and grab it
YOUJUSTWAITANDSEE
Yep
Respect from Montenegro
Such a beautiful town we really need this in America
@@christianitykiller5238 yeah that's the goal of Ozarkia
All European countries need to push for these areas.
@Gilgamesh you're thinking of Harrison Arkansas pretty sure you are could be wrong and no Harrison isn't like Orania
@Gilgamesh non white's can move there
Why America ? Black Americans are one of the most hard-working and talented people within the black diaspora!
Every community in America has it's own flaws ..i.e most serial killers & cult leaders in America are WHITE
Ugh, all the "People of the Soil" a.k.a. EFF and BLF people, have been lured out to attack this peaceful town once again.
Could you elaborate on that, please? Where do we see this lure and has it or any hint of it happened? Just trying to understand your view here
@@godzilla001 The comments were removed by the uploader of this video. The people I refered to come out in droves on Twitter, Facebook and TH-cam to slander the town and call it all sorts of names and going as far as to threaten burning the town down.
@@jrr6947 that is sickening. Can't people just be and let be?
@@godzilla001 Apparently not...^🙄
What I fear is that when the rest of South Africa falls, and it will, Orania will be overrun…
This place is awesome! Seems better than nearly the entirety of the remaining SA, lol.
@@christianitykiller5238 ???
@@christianitykiller5238 Not your land either, read a book you brain dead bigot.
@@-scrim Ignore him, this person is clearly some African guy who allowed our current corrupt government or the Radical EFF tell him what to think. In South Africa we have a problem with much of the majority thinking they have claim to the entire country and have been lead to believe that the whites, bullied them off of it. Which is actually funny as much of the Zulu people actually came from up North down and almost wiped out the actual original people of Southern Africa. Sadly much of the majority, are not the types who self educate and instead gain their knowledge from gossip and whatever some corrupt politician tells them what the history is like to forward their own agenda. In short, we have an Idiot problem. Like Mr Christian Killer here, a radical bigot no doupt. Sort of person an Afrikaner would have no issue slapping the shit out of.
Have u been to umhlanga and ballito
Don't lie. Orania is very rural and lacks a lot of stuff. I think there's bits of racial superiority complex that makes people think everything in Orania is the best. I saw someone post a swimming pool in Orania saying, South Africa doesn't have swimming pools like that. It gets ridiculous
This is amazing for culture to retain like this. It is amazing like a piece of Europe in South Africa. I hope everyone should make more places in this with their own culture in different countries.
The white people in that area wouldn't want you to draw too much attention to them they're still open wounds
Yes, while all is well I think the least said the better. Unfortunately, if the worst happens, TH-cam will be first to shut down any reporting on the subject, that is after main stream media have shut it down.
Nice place it is. Very peaceful place.
Yes it was!
😀 well take a black ass there and see how nice it is
Though a person of your skin color is not welcome
@@phillipsidhojapap1461 not wrong about saying that, there are areas in which Indian communities won't allow black people and black communities won't allow any others. However orania shouldn't be viewed as a racist area, it's a place where a group of people practice their right to preserve their beliefs, infact instead of orania branching into SA, communities should learn how to do the same all over. We live in a time where there is no need for government... so no this comment though harsh isn't actually racist even though some might say it is.. in short its stay in your lane and IL be in mine.. if you want to stay in orania, then start your own
@@adelechetty4304 culture is dynamic and so they are in a futile journey if you think their quest is to preserve culture. Cultures can only be preserved in museums. This is racial segregation veiled in a pious attempt to 'preserve culture.' its cultural bullshit. Let them preserve their culture in Europe and stop this idiocy
I was very impressed by the agricultural areas. Im guessing thats the main industry of the town which looks prosperous and safe. No electric fences and razor wire like elsewhere in the country.
Why don’t you move in and stay with these racist then?
Fair enough 👌
Travelled to south africa from ireland 3 years ago and we drove out to see the irish monument. Kind of weird town i thought.
It's certainly different. For the uninitiated the Irish Monument honours the Irish volunteers who fought for the Boer nation between1899-1902 against the British.
@@Kangela yes they were called the mcbride brigade. 200 elite fighters sent to south africa to stand with tge boers aganst tge british. The irish also sent an army to fight in the spanish cival war. We had a great 5 weeks in south africa. We were well recieved by everybody.
I’m of Irish ancestry, so the Irish connection is close to me 👌
Not as weird as the rest of South Africa, be honest, lol.
@@felixfedre518 well they can leave if they dont like it
Beautiful video but too short.
Thanks Velaphi, perhaps I will visit again and make a more in depth video in the future.
I disagree that it’s white by default. So many Coloured people are first language Afrikaans speakers and they could identify as Afrikaners and be welcomed there if they met the settlement criteria that is not based on race. It’s not impossible that Black South Africans could settle there too if they identified as Afrikaners culturally and linguistically.
But I suspect not very likely.
@@chrisblockley5783 There is apparently 1 coloured family resident there and no black people currently. At present the population sits at around 2300.
@@winco68 Nonsense
@@hyperquantum3020 You’ve obviously never been. Nonsense…. really?
@@winco68 Afrikaners are only White, like the Germans the Polish ect ect.
If they are gonna allow non Whites to live there then what even is the point of Orania?
I wish we had a place like that in America, it would really decrease the racial tension. Whites in a all white city and blacks in one. Hire your own and us that have mix relationships can be happy away from those who want to be left alone.
This is a fantastic idea - love it
We had that before you people came and exploited us as slaves and commodities. What do you expect following years of injustice.? Your foolish solution is segregate by race, why not by class since there is also class tension.?? I guess it's mentalities like yours which got us where we are now
The USA did it for a brief period. Black people created their own prosperous community called 'Black Wall Street', which the US government decided to burn to the ground over some staged provocation.
Good luck Orania, against the odds showing what can be done !
The place will be worth a lot of money one day. When the rest if SA will be a slum.
Orania, the place looks beautiful, clean, orderly, peaceful en decent . Paradise on earth
That location reminds me of Australia 🇦🇺
Looks like every town in America pre 1965!
russel means spoke about your fork tonge ways
It's a very beautiful place regardless of the controversy.
I agree with you Tinashe.
There's nothing controversial in reality, it's just politics.
@@Slavic_Boer There's a lot of jealousy behind what's called politics
@@Slavic_Boer 😀😆 In reality Orania's population would not even qualify for statehood ...maybe a club/society ...tbh you just jumping the gun.
I have no jeslousy for Orania but if affluent or well off, number of people, decide to establish smth like a community chances are WITH CO-OPERATION & a well thought out STRATEGY [not limited to this only these two things ] it will succeed regardless of identity.
🙂 ..include vetting out individuals eligible to join the community. In this instance it's WHITE AFRIKAANS CONSERVATIVES with similar grassroot values !
There should be no controversy surely - if it works, do it again.
Lovely idea. Its absolutely needed to have segregation. Its nice to see a town holding strong. Nothing wrong with staying separate and building individual communities.
We all need a Constitution that allows for that otherwise the Thuggy boys will figure a way to overwhelm where you live with 'other's who don't believe in your culture - race - religion - etc - and if it's a small locality - what's the problem
Hermoso lugar, que Dios les bendiga!!
Looks a lovely place I doubt they have Drug and knife gangs there for some reason.
Certainly on my bucket list and have a huge respect for their successful growth rate which allegedly surpasses any other town or city in SA.
Please do your research on their GDP.
dream on
In the United states, in Pennsylvania there are amish people who identify with the swiss german, what orania people identify with in Europe?
Wow didn't know such a place existed in South Africa, this is beautiful...i would love to pass by sometime but most unfortunately I would not be welcomed🙈
Best to stay where you know the people well and where you feel welcome.
South Africans are very hostile especially Afrikaners they would welcome you
Why do you assume you would not be welcomed?
We had to pass through there to fill up and the people were friendly to my two non-white colleagues, they treated us well and we did not feel unwelcome... The waitress was even speaking broken English but they accommodated us. Changed my view.
@@maruiscordier2042 Maybe because they were with you?
The fact that an Irish tri colour is flying is very very interesting. Orania probably means 'orange' after the Dutch 'house of orange'. The 'Prince of Orange' was a Dutch Protestant. He was certainly not an Irish Roman Catholic. The Irish 'supported' the afrikaans but most certainly do not hold their religious faith. The Dutch legacy in Ireland is seen in houses with 'Dutch' gable walls. These were built to show 'loyalty' to the 'Prince of orange' after whom the 'orange river' is named. The 'house of orange' thus is remembered both in South Africa and Ireland. The 'faith' of the Dutch is a 'reformed' faith and this is neither Anglican or Roman Catholic. There are 'monuments' to the afrikaans in Ireland but the total opposite 'faiths' of each group are conveniently forgotten. I wonder why?
Thanks for the comment George. The Irish monument in Orania is to honour the Irish volunteers, and there were quite a few of them, who fought with the Boers against the English in the Boer Wars of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
@@Kangela That is correct. If you visit the graveyard of the Roman Catholic Cathedral in my city you will also find a 'memorial' to the 'Irish Volunteers' who fought along side the Boers. Their 'common enemy' the British. There is also a Boer War monument to the Irish Soldiers who died while fighting for the British Army, as Ireland at the time was still part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. At the Easter Uprising in Dublin in 1916, the rifles of the volunteers had the inscription on them 'remember the boers'. The 'Uprising' in Ireland was also based upon the idea of the 'blood sacrifice'. This was the idea that they were laying down their lives for Ireland. Today the orange element in Ireland is represented by the Institution of the 'orange order', an organisation based on religious principles. Many in this order are devout reformed Christians and take their faith very seriously. The 'green patriots' have a faith based on 'worship' of Ireland and the Roman Catholic Church. Those of the reformed faith in the present Republic of Ireland are a small minority who quietly 'practice their faith', just as the afrikaans still do to this day. Most reformed Christians moved North because they wanted to be free to practice their faith. In the total population of Ireland North and South they are still a minority, just as the afrikaans are a minority in the whole of South Africa.
@@georgefrazer2231 Thank you George, that's most interesting, especially since my own background is Irish. In fact my late grandfather could reliably trace his ancestry back to one Connal O'Moore, who lived between 1435 and 1495 in the area around Laois in County Wicklow (it gets a bit murky further back than that 😉). The farm where my grandfather grew up, Spring Farm, is still there, near the village of Kilcoole in Wicklow, although it's now an Airbnb and is sadly no longer in the family 😢.
Pragtige plek Orania! Doet so voort mense !
Only 2 thousand people? In the event of a serious conflict, they will simply be rolled out with armored vehicles and that's it, finita.If they want to stay there, then increase their number to at least 20 thousand, plus their production, such as the production of electricity, fuel, food and metals and their products.
The population is increasing very fast.
Faster than everywhere else.
From 1600 to 2500 in just 4 years.
They have just recently started producing their own electricity with solar panels or something I don't know exactly.
And as far as I know they are pretty selfreliable with food.
The ANC government inherited one of the strongest, best trained and respected defence forces in Africa. They have turned it into crap, as they have done with everything else they took over. Mostly through affirmative action, cadre deployment, sheer imcompetence and rampant corruption. Have a look at how fat and unfit the average current soldier in SA is. Useless. I doubt they have the ability to succesfully attack a flock of sheep, let alone a settlement like Orania, where most of the male residents would have been members of the former SA Defence force. The current bunch of idiots saw their arses in Lesotho... I don't think the residents of Orania would loose any sleep over such a threat scenario...
@@henkverwaard9025 Maybe you are right about something, but you forgot important points, there can be much more of those who come, for 1 of your 30 of them, and all of them will be with weapons. And if you don’t have heavy machine guns, heavy artillery and mortars, there are no minefields and prepared defense, then your fate will be sad in the end.And let me know, do you live in Orania yourself?
@@sla1655 SMH its not about establishing military outpost, that would send all the wrong signals. They are aiming to build a successful separatist state, they will develop their police force but not much more than that.
@@woodland5325 This is not enough, especially in Africa, where at least you need a small private army.
Oranja exists because of black racism and domination
Exactly!
and a black inability to create out of nothing
You guys know nothing... Just Racist people... Go back to europe and learn the history that was stolen from africa....
Leave Africa then...
If Gaslighting was a STATEMENT 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 no choice after loosing a battle you must come with alternative approach i wish all Afrikaans can go and live there
I can’t wait to visit!
Your video doesn't address many questions that arises...e.g. is it open to visitors other than whites.? do they have non-white workers , is the holiday resort open to everyone....can non-whites move there to live....
It is way out in the middle of nowhere. Most people don't want to live there. Until of course it is very much developed, and then there will be millions who don't know who their father is who will claim that their forefathers somehow owned exactly the piece of land with the most expensive modern house on it.
Yes others visit Orania of course. Buying a property is difficult because - all the properties are already bought, and new developments focus on the cultural group.
Some black politicians went there. All were treated with dignity. And they all were very impressed. It is a nice place for a stop over. Breakfast on the Orange river. All the property is private land, even the streets. They will only sell you land if you meet their strict criteria. And that is mostly their culture, their church, their language. A lot like the Amish, but with modern vehicles and farming techniques.
On every street, white people are visible undertaking work that elsewhere in the country is almost always performed by black people, from construction to cleaning.
“We do all our own work. Compare that to the average estate in Pretoria or Johannesburg, where you live in a gated community, surrounded by people of the same income level, and get people from townships travelling for hours to come clean your toilets.”
white afirca good
So if you are not blond or "white" they denied the entrance? How if feels to be there?
Ai, some black politicians went there to look at Orania. All were treated with respect, and all gave a glowing review. There are no gates so you can drive right up to the gas station, or the restaurants, or the shopping centrums. Or wherever you want.
Very beautiful Place 🤩🥰🤩🥰 Orania Paradijs In Africa 🦁⚔️🦁
In the middle? It's in the Northern Cape, which is in the west of the country.
I guess you don’t have access to Google Maps. But rest assured, it’s very close to the centre of the country. And, the Northern Cape is most definitely not in the East, the name kind of gives it away a little.
@@Kangela That's right! The west of the country, to the north of the western cape. The country is shaped funny. Not even Bloemfontein is in the middle.
my god, look at this place.. clean, perfect, able and organized, nothing like... well the rest..
I don't resent or blame these Volks because black South Africa is its own enemy but they like pointing fingers at white volks...these people take themselves seriously as a community I respect that.
There's a lot we don't understand about our South African Constitution some of us. Did this constitution allow these folks to have a village Orania strictly White Afrikaners only inside South Africa? Also these folks to have their own currency? So, if maybe this constitution has allowed them to be by themselves and have their own things in their own space and do as they wish, own currency, culture, schools everything of their own, Now a question is: Why is it wrong for them to use this flag they love so dearly in their own Orania? The flag belongs to them. May somebody explain how does it work please? 🙏✌️
The entire area is privately owned by Vluytjeskraal Aandeleblok (Ltd) so technically they can say who's allowed on their property. They do _not_ have a constitution but do have Ts&Cs occupants must comply to (as seen on the noticeboard on entry). They do not have their own currency as they trade with ZAR. since they don't have their own Minting division/Finance department, moreso since they don't have a full blown government that require these things They still use the resources of South Africa. Them doing what they want on their private property is not a problem because, well, it's private property.
Please do remember that this is just a 'town' that is actually in a private property; it is *not* a separate establishment
@@godzilla001 what ate Ts & Cs that does not allow a black/brown or coloured people to live there.
@@normanrongee2564 it's private property. Who may enter that property is the owner's right. Using that right, they reserve the right to thereby restrict who they want in or not. They don't disallow black people - they block anyone they like. Like non-Christian can't enter either
@@godzilla001 They'd be smart to block anybody - white or black or other for whatever reason that have a problem with their way of being there is a ton of land in South Africa - leave them alone
@@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st as I said in my previous comments, they own the private property so they can allow/restrict whoever they want... Not seeing where I was against them at all so don't get why I need to "leave them alone"?
Proudly zimbabwean, we dont entertain this nonsense, I cant help imagining black south Africans will see this land of theirs in their dreams.
Ah, advice from Zimbabwe, one of the top 5 failed states on the planet! Regardless of what we might think on a personal level about whether Orania is a good thing or a bad thing, Zimbabwe DEFINITELY doesn't spring to mind as an alternative "way".
I'm sure you like your rat s on sticks .
You know Orania is in the semi desert Karoo right? There are thousands of square miles along the orania river to develop. Just buy the land from the government and start building....You know...like Orania did.
Blacks only take, they don't build or improve anything
Dudula?
Prachtige plek!!
does anyone know what the Irish monument @5:40 is for?
I stand to be corrected but as far as I understand the monument honours the many Irish volunteers who fought with the Boers against the English in the Boer wars.
@@Kangela interesting! Hoping to travel to south Africa for the first time from Ireland next summer! Maybe something to research and go visit while I am there
Absolutely, enjoy your trip next year.
Can people of colour stay at the lodge it looks great. Also I've always been extremely curious as to how oranje started and how its thriving. Truly amazing and inspiring. If each little suburb in SA operated this way we would be much better off
What colour? Pink or green? 🤣
As far as I know I believe all races are welcome to visit there. It's a cultural community and whites is working the fields. There is nothing that can be called slavery. I believe it's a peaceful and very crime free place where Afrikaners can live in peace. Much like so many village people in South-Africa. I have friends that came from villages and they are very proud of their heritage and believes. Same with these people in Orania. Would love to live there myself one day as I'm very proud of my culture🥰 And I hate racism.
Lol person of colour. .. intoni uthanda i'sinto nje? Go visit Lerato kganyago's hotel !
Always prepared to support non-black owned joints ... why ? One thing we can learn from the people of Orania is to start understanding each other and support each other .
Orania does quite well out of it's tourist industry as people of all colours come from all over SA to ooh and ah over the only town in SA with practically no crime or unemployment.
@@rockrabbit253 everyone is given
a job thats why
This situation scares me. i feel that the government is allowing this to happen on purpose, waiting for the town to get bigger and develop more and as soon as this town reaches a considerable size, the south african government will come with the army, and take it over one day. in my opinion, there's a reason why the south african government has allowed this segregation town to exist, they are just biding their time it seems.
Love this, hope they can survive, I'd love to live there.
What are the crime rates?
I Respect the choice of the individual
I agree.
Can black do this in Europe
@@kazer353 I have no idea! As I took great pains to mention, this channel, and this video, isn't about the right or wrong of the place. It isn't an attempt to ask whether it would happen in this or that country or continent, nor does it represent my own views or preferences. And, it's neither promoting nor condemning the town or the people who make a choice to live there. The ONLY purpose of the video is to show anybody who has an interest, a place that is unique in South Africa and maybe the world. I hope that helps answer your question.
@@Kangela lol history show us when white people stick together and isolate from other they get crazy thoughts nazi Germany ……………. Now in western cape white want to Succeed from the country don’t you think that would lead to a civil war.
@@kazer353 If they want to they can
The new Nation in the country of South Africa
Clean, Peaceful town where everything works and where you can walk outside at night and children can play outside without fears of being kidnapped or molested. No need even to lock your car or your house.
So what? If blacks do this it is fine. Let's take a look at the direction of south Africa today it looks a lot worse than 20 years ago. If anyone is alive in 20 years compare it even more to today.
paradise
we need to be forming oranias all throughout europe and america as well
Well Done!!!
May Jesus bless the town of Orania richly!!
You want Jesus to bless a town where only some people are allowed? You want Him to bless a place where not all of His children are welcome? You think there’s gonna different sections in Heaven based on your color? You must be joking!
Rest being assured that JESUS CHRIST WONT BLESS APARTHEID!
Nothing here to see, a lot of construction going on but did not see any thing being constructed a bustling town did not see a person don't know if it's a busting.
Not controvercial.
Solong you don't fight each other it will be a blessing from the almighty God because he is the only judge to many kinds let your combination be the will of God keep it well