As a South African, I believe that change will only come when our leaders decide to stop being greedy. We need leaders who really care about the people. I also think there should be a qualification or some sort of assessment a person should go through before being taken up to be a minister or any other position there is up there. We're doomed. But I still have an ounce of hope.
I hear you on qualification assessments. Even with this new GNU government they’ve just put people into positions even if they don’t have experience with it, like the DA leader being minister of agriculture despite always being an urban boy who only has a matric qualification
It is not the government its the families that control this land economically, come on who still believes government is in control we all know its names we never hear of because they own everything the Oppenheimer, Rupert's. They operate like mafia
My English grandparents, mother, and aunt lived in Port Elizabeth from early 1979 to the end of 1981 before returning to England. Part of the reason they did not stay was because of how upsetting they all found living with apartheid to be. My family is all white. My mother and aunt played with Afrikaaner, Coloured, and Black children, and did not understand why the White South African adults would hassle them. My mother actually learned to speak Xhosa fluently. I remember my grandmother telling me a story, that one day while in the family apartment, she was watching an enormous fire billow from the nearby Black community, and she called the fire brigade. She did not give them the exact address, but instead directed them to the nearest White house, in the hopes they would not stop to check whether the fire was actually within the White boundary. When the fire brigade arrived, they stopped at the boundary, hovered for about a minute, before switching off the sirens and returning to the station. Over a dozen people, including children, died in that fire. That was the moment my grandparents decided they could not raise their daughters in this country, even if returning to England meant my grandfather would be on the dole. Thinking of that fire still makes my Nan cry to this day.
Truth is Wakanda is behind in evolution thats why they should roam the dessert freely instead of running the country. Civilzed world has done a mistake leaving the africa to itself and right now Chinese play this game very well exploiting its resources letting the corrupted blacks play in the sandbox… One look at the gdp numbers or crime rate will be enough if you think otherwise.
@@davedave4986There is such a thing as common decency and preserving the lives of others. Should I walk on by and not give CPR to somebody who needs it because I’m not on duty and not getting paid.
I can explain why that happened. If you look at the documentary when they pan over the townships. When the people build their homes in the townships they build them out of sheet metal and wood that they find. They also build on top of each other so that families can stay together for a safety aspect. They also don't build them with things like fire trucks, ambulances and police vehicles in mind and so these types of vehicles cannot get to people if the fire or if a person is in a emergency. If you cant get your vehicle to the scene to help then there is nothing you can do other than go back to your station and help others that you can get to. Its a sad truth that most South Africans have to live with.
They were even separated by train tracks ,Highways , open fields . This made it difficult for people to move through the divided areas . And that infrastructure still remains and furthers the division.
As a South African I can say that the divide between the rich and poor is still as great as before. As an Indian whose parents grew up in very poor neighbourhoods I am very fortunate to have the life that I have but while a few managed to have a “new” life after apartheid most have not changed
@@walterroux291 Excuse me for pointing out a presumably unintended spelling mistake, but if only it had been classicism rather than classism that had replaced racism... Seeing doric, ionic and corinthian columns everywhere would get tedious very quickly, but at least it doesn't harm people.
Yes, it has been, but the ANC have been destroying everything that worked really well, created before, during and after apartheid and yet they still blame apartheid.
Yes we are and we are worse of then under the white. As a cloloured it is bad bad bad! Don't get me wrong. There are bad under the coloured commuties just as under any other nation. Although we did not have equality under the white people but we were Safe! Our country prospered. It is sad what our country is reduced to now.
As an “upper class” POC in South Africa, I can tell you, it is very strange. I go to a private school where 99% of the students are white despite 70%+ of the country being black.
“No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela.
But there's more to be gained by hatred than by love. Hate makes you win elections. Hate makes you rich. Hate often times gives you a strong sense of purpose.
I feel sorry for people now who are called racist, because they know nothing different. Every baby that is born has no hate or anger int hem whatsoever; it’s up to other people around them to inject their ideals into the child which they will grow up believing.
Can we also compare the contribution to South Africa? I'm pretty sure one side adds to the economy while the other side drains it. Also all the services you mentioned are paid for over and above the high tax levels
The ANC encouraged strikes that shut down the public schools. ANC senior officers also sent THEIR children to private schools or schools outside South Africa, so they got good educations. Those who had gone to the now closed public schools got nothing. This an educational hole which has been a burden on the country in to the present day.
@@Dutch_Uncle i'm not trying to be racist or anything, but it seems that every african nation that gain independent from the colonial power and now has native people as their leader are really messed up :( corruption, human rights violation, basically just a dictator
The philosophy that more education is a solution to Africa's problems has taken some recent hits. Young people have left educational institutions only to find that the employment opportunities are not what they had anticipated, and they are not happy. Perhaps "appropriate" education would be a better goal, even though the term has a ominous and dictatorial ring. Education is frequently seen as a way to get out of Africa and have a more abundant life elsewhere. It is probably a legend that there are more Nigerian doctors outside Nigeria than there are practicing in Nigeria, but people with portable profession and credentials recognized elsewhere can respond to the chance for a better life. A physician attempting to provide services in a hospital with intermittent electricity, food service provided by relatives of the patients, and nurses who are just a couple of notches above cleaning ladies can be tempted to go where medical standards are more like the ones experienced in medical school.
@@axellfonz I cAn't fully explain it but I can tell you one thing it's not a race problem just look up the history of Botswana it's basically the only African country that made it out of colonialism in one piece since it was a protectorate ruled by natives under the British and it's first president was a visionary and not a dictator the only countries richer than Botswana in Africa are south Africa and oil rich countries like equatorial guinea
It's a mind-boggling reality in South Africa. The other great divide is Sandton vs Alexandra. A highway (M1) divides Africa's richest square mile from one of the poorest neighborhoods in the country. There are countless other examples besides Cape Town.
I've lived there for a year and its really strange seeing Lamborgini's driving by "public braai's" in bushes where boereworst was sold by low income people.
True, but as someone who has lived in Cape Town, Johannesburg and Durban among other places, I have to say Cape Town has a Group Areas Act legacy that is extreme compared to other SA cities. (And yes they did use an extreme example in Strand even within Cape Town but an 80% white neighbourhood is not THAT unusual in Cape Town) In a place like Johannesburg a significant number of the affluent & upper classes are black. (Quantitatively now the majority) In Durban much of the affluent classes are black too. *In Cape Town, on the other hand, in many places you feel like you're demographically not in Africa.* (I will say though there is something journalistically disingenuous by VOX in not making clear that while the informal neighbourhoods are majority black, only about 10% of the population lives in informal areas as shown. In Cape Town about 20% of the population.)
There wasn’t universal international pressure, either. Margaret Thatcher and many other neoliberal and conservative politicians supported or ignored the apartheid system.
I am South African and I was lucky enough to get a decent enough education to allow me to earn enough to move out of the townships. Unfortunately though, not every black South African has this opportunity afforded to them and so the RSA government put in place laws to empower them. Problem is the white population go on global campaigns to investors saying how the system is now reversed because of affirmative action laws and land laws. Thus there’s no real follow through and black people remain marginalised
As a South African, I think this video should've gone more into depth of the problems that cause this like corruption, over population, too much conflict between races. And we should also take into consideration that 8,4% of South Africa's population is white and 80,3% black
and according to SARS 20% of the population is carrying the rest of the 80% of the country as 80% of the populations do not pay taxes or water or lights etc... they demand (and its a human right not against it) but they want it for free. they forget there are costs involded for a country to build a infastructure or do ppl think things just magically appear with no costs involded. but same old problem the lack of education is the root of the majority of ignoraces.
ou and i forgot to mention something very important 80% will claim they earn peanuts hence they cant and wont pay but majority also do peanuts so how can you expect to earn 20 but you produce only 3 that means the company is forced to hire 6 more like him to produce the 20 and 20 get splitted 7 ways instead of one its a vicious never ending circle again education education eductaion can never say enough of it
@@julliandsg772 yh I agree with what ur saying but in South Africa you can be the best educated person applying for a job and someone else would get it just because of the colour of their skin, and thats the sad truth
I was in South Africa for 87 days in 1997. South Africa has a very serious problem that they do not talk about, which is language. The South African Constitution guarantees the right to be educated in your native language. When I was there there were 11 spoken languages down from 16. They were afraid that Nelson Mandela was going to make everyone learn English in school also the people born and educated before apartheid stopped, received traditional tribal educations. Therefore there are lots of adult Blacks who have no Western education and speak only their tribe's local language. Many Whites do not speak a native language such as Zulu or Xhosa (Pondo tribe) so communication is a mess contributing to poverty.
@@shisuiofthesharingan7621 The language barriers are also tribes. When I was in R.S.A. tribal warfare was still popular. R.S.A. is not a Christian country; it is more like a collection of inner-city gangs speaking different languages.
@@xmoreno3366 Nelson Mandela and the other politicians are all Zulu as far as I know. Their constitution requires that everyone be educated in the language of their own choice, this was written into their constitution to prevent Mandela from making English the official language. Africans was disestablished as the state language in retaliation against the Boers. Watch the movie Shaka Zulu to understand who is running South Africa now.
Before anyone puts my words out of context, I disagree with the way the country was managed e.g. apartheid and others. But it is indeed shocking to see that nothing significant happened in those communities. I think it's a dream for any entrepreneur to have that many people on such small land.
For those who think Geography is just memorize countries and capital cities, this is REAL geography. Please, keep doing this kind of videos. Greetings from an uruguayan geography teacher 🇺🇾
Well this is more history than geography but I get your point. Learning about different problems in different parts of the world makes you educated about geography
Well most of them got imported from other places in Africa, with busses, being promised lies by the leading people to secure votes, 25 years ago. Now, they are there, without any perspective and hope given to them and mostly playing the victim card. Well, thats at least what a Tanzanian uber driver told me once. He said those people are even too lazy to work. Which is why he and many of his fellows, and dudes from Mozambique, Nigerians etc. can be found as Uber drivers. The township people apparently don‘t want to put in the effort to work. As Uber driver at least. 😂
@SWAT Kats you obviously have a complete lack of understanding where are those people going to live while apartments are being built? Where are they going to get the money from? How much rent will be charged for those apartments? You literally are just sayin that gentrification is the answer when actually you could result in an almost forced eviction of already marginalized people with low income
Since the minority white people has lost most of the political power, shouldn't they be allowed forming their own community? Wouldn't it be "culture genocide" not allowing white people to live together?
As a Peruvian who was privileged enough to be born into the middle upper class and was able to immigrate to Canada, can confirm. It was a shock when I first looked up about my country and saw the condition that aboriginal people lived in. It wasn't the Peru that I knew and it was heartbreaking to see how the Peruvian government treats those that lived in the country beforehand
Bruh Its nowhere near as bad as in South Africa the situation in Latin America is completely different the main difference is separation by economic class NOT BY RACE although in many places indigenous people can suffer discrimination.
Seeing a foreign perspective of South Africa is always very interesting, because living in Cape Town this stuff is so normalised and when watching these videos it’s always eye opening again
South Africa's problem is not necessarily with race at the moment. The problem is our corrupt government and a greedy private sector which corrupts the black government... The current ruling party(ANC) does a lot to frustrate the development of this country because they prioritise money over building and developing the country to better the lives of the previously and historically disadvantaged.
@@funmaster4632 definitely agree. When you take a close look at African governments that operate in Anglophone African countries, they are always for sale in one way or the other. Our African governments sell us to the highest bidder then enjoy the spoils amongst each other and those well connected to the political elite. While the majority languishes in hopelessness and poverty. They also thrive on divisions. Ordinary South Africans for the most part are just trying to get by but politicians understand that its easier to control the populace if they are not adequately educated, are not self sufficient, divided and for the most part depend on the government's which exploit and manipulate them.
I do agreed with you, it's less about racial but just the huge inequality due to corrupt government. Inequality between common people vs. ruling class. People might think since black-majority govt rules the country, black folks must be so rich by now. But if you look at it more closely, BOTH black and white folks are getting poorer due to incompetence of the corrupted govt. White folks poverty is as rampant as black folks. Unfortunately, the ruling class of SA is jumping into the opportunity to divide the people and make the poverty issue as racial when the fact is that, it's less about racial, but just common theme of corrupted politicians vs. regular people and corrupted govt often pit people from different racial background against each other so that you wouldn't pay attention to them, wouldn't pay attention to their corruption.
This video does not mention the most crucial point for answering the very question asked in the title... The fundamental reason why overcoming borders and work towards the future has been so stagnant since the end of apartheid is the current government... It was a very symbolic and ecstatic moment when the ANC with Nelson Mandela overtook the legislation and for a few short years there was great hope for a bright future but corruption and incompetence have since become so rampant to the point of literal anarchy... The tragedy of this shell of a government that is the today's ANC cannot be understated...
corruption, incompetence and anarchy, now where do you see the same pattern in Africa again and again?? since African independance and 'the great liberation' from colonisation!
@Rusty Shackleford Maybe we shouldn't say what racist whites say. Cause we are Africans and we don't think like that. We are different and have fought to not let the isolation of capital infect us.
In University, I have classmates that can't afford data and others who are driving convertibles to school everyday. This is just an example that displays the growing inequality in SA. A decent second hand car will cost you at least R50k 1Gb of Data costs around R80 I think.
@@tsheposeanego5582 No, most college students are short on cash because of paying for loans, the rich kids go to private colleges so it's not like that here idk what that dude is on about.
As a South African black i can tell you Nomzamo is a slum the people there just found land settled. No planning from municipality or any government hence service delivery is not easy. People there don’t pay municipal rates or anything. Others don’t pay rent, bond or anything. Just settling. Many problems of such settlements are self inflicted.
Look into how white farmers and their children have been treated in the past few years. Some of the stories I have heard, still stick with me because of how horrific they were
@@chadnuts look how black citizens in their land have been treated for HUNDREDS of years and are still treated today, you don’t have the morale high ground here
I remember when I went to South Africa, we drove past a huge gated community in Cape town with a golf course in the middle. We'd heard earlier that there was a drought, so many of the townships didn't have access to clean water that summer... But the golf course had sprinklers flowing over it all day long. That pretty much summed up the situation across the country imo.
its complicated because those rich people also contribute more to the government through taxes. yes they are rich but also one rich person might contribute as many as 500 poor people.
The thing is our government cannot actually handle this huge influx of people that have come into the major cities in South Africa. I know the logical solution is to build houses for them closer into for example Cape Town but we literally have no money to do so.
That's not how it works. The economy runs on debt, SA's inflation is ~3-4 percent. Real growth is less than 1% and slowing. SA 10 year government bonds have a 9.2% yield (interest). These are very okay numbers. The government could issue more bonds to finance housing programs. Cape Town should drastically increase density to get the economic benefits of being a city. (With increased density infrastructure becomes easier to finance because there are more people relatively who need to finance it. Even simple things like buses become a lot more effective.)
@@wojciechkomar197 Yep this was the plan since the 1940s. The Anglos (led by Harry Oppenheimer) realized South Africa needed a multiracial oligarchy (and a multiracial middle class) to be stable in the post-colonial world. The Afrikaners having largely been an impoverished tribe themselves didn't want to give up the industrial state the Anglos had handed them and instead saw in Apartheid the alternative (to handing over like the rest of Africa and South Asia). By 1994 the negotiation for this multiracial oligarchy had been achieved. The constitutional arrangement along with BEE deals freezes the 19th century economy in place and keeps the old oligarchy (white business & black aristocrats) in along with members of the old black middle class moving up into the oligarchy. Sampie Terrblanche a late Stellenbosch economics professor once described this setup very well a few years ago: The Top 25 - 30% (roughly 20 million) are the elite and live first world lives. The 20% below them are neither here nor there (doing OK-ish financially) and live relatively well and first worldly, certainly by *global* standards, too. They in total make up the Top 45- 50%. The bottom 50% -55% are low income and live adjacent to the world of the Top 50%. The bottom 20% live in slums and the bottom 13% (still millions) live in the informal settlements shown. The informal/slums are almost all black/coloured. The middle & affluent classes are now 70% black. The white are heavily concentrated in the affluent classes, quite often as beneficiaries of generational wealth. Very little formal Capital goes to the bottom half, despite a massive informal sector. Financing is extremely limited to the "formal" economy, i.e. the oligarchs' stake. This despite the fact that the individual informal unrecorded business sectors are estimated to be worth billions annually and with bank funding could rival formal business if formalized, and one wouldn't want that apparently.
@rigorous mortis so what you saying if I was white and my parents and grandparents who stole the land minerals etc have now died that I should be entitled to what they stole yet you not willing to pay the price for the sins .
I am not European, but I have to admit that Europeans manage things well. Even in rural areas in Russia, it looks cleaner and more peace. But some people will say that this is racism. Maybe we should have started to reflect ourselves.
Europe may look tidy now, but it was built on centuries of theft, slavery, and exploitation of the entire world. It’s easy to seem superior when you’ve spent generations profiting off others' suffering. This is historical fact, and anyone ignoring it is simply showing their ignorance and refusal to face the truth.
It hits hard when you learn about people being racially segregated and then see actual people who were affected by apartheid and are still alive. It just reminds you of how very recent apartheid was.
I, as a South-African, was taught all this in school. But the thing that stuck with me the most was a line from my father, who was raised during apartheid. He talks about social capital; how with each generation the divide widens. White people are often able to pass down inheritances of house, land and the education. How to use libraries and free resources, the ability to locate close to good schools, and budget for tertiary education. They are able to pass on the knowledge of how to act and work within society. Whereas the people so horrifically oppressed by apartheid often cannot. There is often no inheritance or land or advice on how to operate in within the economy. There is not always the ability to share with the next generation the knowledge of how to save money or invest. This social capital - the gains one gets from knowledge of how to operate as an equal and functioning member within society - widens the gap as generations go by. It is this lack of social capital which acts as one of the factors of the poverty trap. I hope for my generation that we can truly work towards righting the wrongs of the oppressive regime of apartheid.
In the United States everyone can have access to public library, some or most parents don't bother teaching their children how valuable their lives are living in U.S. There are County, State & Federal benefits paid for by us the taxpayers. BTW I was born in Mexico with no running water, toilet or electricity. I'm blessed in U.S.A.
To fight through this. There needs to be one black person who is willing and skillful to compete against the white market. Seriously I believe this is the only way. Once that black person manages to have a strong enough economy to be seen as important in the town, the government will start working with him, then major changes are easy because the government is in control. But this will probably happen given enough time
There must someone from family who will break the cycle of poverty. If you will just continue to pass down blame on the system which is non-existent, you will not be abale to devise a way how to be at par with the other people. Initive must come from you and not doled out by somebody.
I visited in 1994. It is basically a two tier society. The USA is devolving into this I believe as some Latin American countries are. The bottom tier have no access to education nor good advice. They are stuck with a Losers Formula to keep them where they are. I live in the UK. Things are better but there is as always the push by Monopolists to stratify social mobility as you have in high GINI coefficient countries
Same here in America idk what took me so long to realize that democrats promise, then never deliver, yet 90% of us still vote Democrat, look at Baltimore, St. Louis, Chicago, 100 years of empty democrat promises, what do we have to lose voting republican, they're not racist, they just expect the same from us as they do whites, not the soft bigotry of low expectations which is the democrats bread and butter
@@pork8829 So true, the downtrodden have no race, just a very real oppression. Till we learn to ignore the race baiting and work together, the rich and corrupt will always win.
Moving off-grid than paying tax to promote evil socialism is better choice. I would rather spend my wealth on me than spend it on promoting socialist laziness.
Agree, there are so many factually incorrect statements in this video but this disinformation has been part of the the media's narrative for many years
I don’t know much about South Africa but when I heard the statement that they filled the railroad to transport diamonds I thought that sounded a little ridiculous. If diamonds were so plentiful that you needed trains to transport them all they would not be worth so much.
@@danbeeson9564 Well actually diamond are not that rare. Go hunt internet and you will find out how there is old family keeping those rocks rare. When new mine is found they will force you to give it to them.
South Africa has been under Black majority democratic rule for 34yrs. The Black government continues to perpetuate the apartheid style land development and even now low cost housing is poor quality, high density and miles from where the most people work.
I'm From Ethiopia. And I just don't understand how someone in their own native land and in their ancestor's lands can be told where they can settle and where they can't. I feel sorry for my South African brothers and sisters. Hope things change.
The people of South Africa migrated to areas that had jobs (and they still are). The current govt built housing on the cheapest land, essentially recreating what had happened before. it's economic division thats recreating the seperation now. Isnt this happening in Ethiopia too?
@@scottyflintstone There is a gap between the rich and the poor in Ethiopia. But the thing is everyone is the same. We're all Ethiopians (black Ethiopians) and Ethiopia didn't have a history of segregation. No one was discriminated against because of the color of their skin.
That is not their land, they are migrants and they ilegaly settled on the outskirts of the cities, which of course were cites built by Europeans. And they expect the guverment to build them houses? Where else in this world the guverment is supposed to build you houses just because you exist? And then even if you have a house, how they can afford to pay the bills? Cause if they will aford the bills, they sure can afford to build their own houses. In short, you have a nice house that you payed for, and some migrants build some illegal shacks nearby, how it is your fault or the government's fault that you live in a decent house and the migrant is living in a shack?
@@abenezerethiopiawi Right... But South Africa and Ethiopia don't have the same history or trajectory, so your comparison of yourselves to us makes no sense
Then you will have the other effect. Birds of a feather flock together. People cluster. That's why you have regions in a city like Chinatown, or little Italy.
As a South African I will say that the government is doing nothing to cut off this unequalities and this unequalities are getting worse as the years move on
@@BG-uf8kh it’s not their land. Only people who can really complain are the Khoisan and Coloureds. The white people deserve to be there as much as anyone there. Look up the Bantu expansion or even the Zulu massacres. Their conditions is also in part due to immigration and culture. Compare the populations from 1900s to 1960s to today. 80 million black South Africans live there now, which is an explosion in population.
Colonialism will never be truly over. As long as wealthy people turn poor / middle class white folk on everyone else. The two communities will never unite to be one.
Indeed. That sentiment also brushes over the phenomenon of neo-colonialism. i.e how former colonial powers continue to extract wealth and resources from the global south without formally owning colonies.
@@gemain609 i think people are sick of not holding china to the same standards that they'd apply to any other western nation, ie. "Colonialism bad", but china's colonialism is okay, because they get to play catch up i guess?
Thank you for showing papers and for talking with people. Here in the US, there's long been a tendency to throw the word "apartheid" very blandly, without talking about how it happened, what the process was and what this process did to people. The details of this are vital to our understanding of what today's South Africa looks like.
@@ajax3017 exactly, I mean only white people have the right to come and occupy and take the lands from the natives by any means necessary, I mean how else would they learn. If in that process it leads to apartheid, genocide, who cares
i think showing people who are essentially victims of apartheid also helps to establish that this isnt some thing that happened and was done with by the 50s and 60s, apartheid didnt end until 1996, during living history for many many people, and its consequences are still very much felt by many people. i think it rly helps people to see just how real this all was because its easy to brush it off like 'oh well its happened now who cares'
@Joe Shmoe but there is still a large inequality in economic status and living conditions between the races. You seem to be in favor of “separate but equal” but it isn’t equal at all.
@@jamesmostert1519 Also consider that majority of the population in SA is black, then an overwhelming majority of the poorest and most exploited class in SA is ALSO black, then that small percentage of wealthier upper-middle class black South Africans shrinks even smaller. Yet majority of economic power and enormous wealth is held by a very small percentage of people, who are overwhelmingly white, and the majority of the middle class is also white. Class and race are inextricably linked. There may be exceptions, but they are not representative of the big picture. The black people who are more economically secure are a sign that things are getting better but by no means a sign that the work is close to being finished.
I was in South Africa only once (and not only in Cape Town) - and I loved it. But I will never forget riding somewhere on the coast and on one side of the highway there were slums built out of the sheet metal, and then over the next hill, there was a wonderful gated community, with clean and tidy gardens and pool. Really strange picture
@@matt7192 Definitely, Rich people from foreign countries come over, build, and the old-world struggles with new laws, and lands. Happens everywhere even before the british "colonized" africa.
I don't know man, these Districts seem to be a world wide phenomenon. I see these Districts everywhere I go and I haven't been to Africa since the late 1970's.
As a Polish person who has been to Cape Town before COVID madness, I have to confirm, that talking both with whites and blacks, no matter what, everyone was so open minded, friendly and energetic I can’t believe the SA authorities can’t use this combination to develop open, tolerant, and prosperious land for everyone. And another thing - remember about your painful past, but focus about future. I know what I say, because after 75 years, after the end of WW2, people of my land can live now peacefully with Germans, being good neighbors, friends, and working together for even better future (literally without any borders between our lands)
Greed and corruption has been the downfall of South Africa. So much opportunities for greatness . So much potential for living together, on a relatively equal economic level. Oh I should add that all the potential is there because of the people in South Africa. The people in this country are for the most, amazing. A couple of bad apples and the terrible government ruins it for everyone.
no offence but polish people are some of the most racist out there even though there is tones of you who moved to england (not a bad thing) the only times ive experienced racism in my 13 years of life was from polish people and people even say poland is a very racist country
Matriarchy, polygamy and poverty are the status quo for some people. Not to mention never taking responsibility and blaming everyone else for you problems.
Being denied well deserved positions, salaries, jobs, business opportunities due to skin complexion and give it to the Europeans doesn't help the situation either
@@African1313only the situation is exactly the opposite of what you typed. There are quota laws for all business to exist now. A white can’t run a business without a black partner.
I don’t understand the entire situation and maybe someone can explain to me but as an outside all I see if how the British destroyed this land and then they leave and don’t bother cleaning up their mess
Always nice to see diff points of views! 😬 I'm South Asian but I loved the borders series Jonny did on this channel about partition and how both Pakistan and India face problems because of it today.
Since this is Vox, of course you're going to embellish some of the facts. Here you've completely glossed over the ANC government's incorpetence and ignored the different demographics and Gauteng.
you'll never be hard-pressed to find a White South African putting all the blame for all problems in this country on the ANC, the fact is Apartheid and it's 'end' was a mere transition of government and not a transition of society, Mandela was too soft on the National party and enabled people like yourself to still be so entitled after relishing an apartheid legacy.
@@jardinxu5247you’re not a South African so you’ll never properly understand the situation here. It absolutely is fair to blame the ANC, they’ve destroyed so much
True and people who benefit from a corrupt, imbalanced system of inequality aren’t incentived to change it because they’ll have to confront their own egos and the lies they’ve been told to shape their respective realities. The poor aren’t the only ones guilty of being blissfully ignorant; It’s an evil 2-sided coin!
@@dougedoug2105 And where exactly does this utopia of equality exist on earth? Equality and equity are two different terms. For the most part we are all born into this world equal.....naked and unable to care for our selves. The end results though are different with everyone and any government or politican preaching they can guarantee equal outcomes for everyone is not only a liar but a danger to everyone's freedom.
I grew up during apartheid. We had to live in an Indian neighbourhood. The disparity these days is still real, but it's mostly along economic lines, mostly brought about through apartheid.
Same boat man my dad's south African and my mum is Scottish and I live in Scotland... visited SA a couple years ago and crime was through the roof very scary stuff. It's a wonderful place run by horrible people. The government is not encouraging change in poor neighbourhoods and not putting money to them. They are corrupt and stealing the money. They have load shedding sometimes no power 8 hours a day but still export power to Zimbabwe. Is a joke. SA needs a proper government who will use money Well and make change for such a wonderful country.
True true but you can only fit so much into a 10min vid... you would need a couple of feature length documentaries to cover everything that's going on in this country
@@Wook1333 the government corruption doesn't eliminate the racial disparity that exists. They could have made it a series and still excluded the government's corruption. Racial disparity would still exist regardless of ANC corruption
@@Wook1333 it goes without saying. Can you think of any government without corruption? Pretty sure people are sick of Americans pointing out other corrupt governments.
@@mokhwibitxwane One of the main promises of the ANC Government was to eliminate racial disparity. Does the scale and prevalence of corruption in South Africa adversely effect the ANC's ability to deliver on that mandate?
As a 64 year old white South African who grew up during apartheid and chose to change it by voting for change in two referendums, I confirm that the content of this video is accurate and true. But our problem today is a corrupt racist government that uses the old apartheid sadness daily to incite the masses. This makes everything stand still around the past. Meanwhile, the officials steal the state money and investments from overseas that are supposed to help the poor people. The bad living conditions is to be blamed on the South African Government and political leaders that mislead the people!
The White Jews and White Americans use similar logic and excuses to justify the racist systems and circumstances in the countries their descendants colonized!
you are not South African, you are a white man, from evil descendants of Europe who invaded another country. If I am black born in England and get told I am not English, therefore you are not South African.
This video is highly misrepresented. You should do your research first before publishing. People are not segregated because of the colour of their skin. People are segregated because of the poor choices government has made. Also these townships often come up illegally. They dont have water and electricity because they have just "land grabbed".
Visiting South Africa (Cape Town and Johannesburg), I certainly saw the divide. It was amazing how you can go from one area of the country to another and it would be so different - night and day difference.
At least you were able to notice it - I'm South African currently living in Sweden and it's surprising how many people I've met here from all over Europe who have only holidayed in the tourist traps in Cape Town, so they've only been surrounded by wealthy (mostly white people) and they hardly find anything strange that the only black and coloured people they interact with in those spaces are service staff and workers. They wouldn't dare see more sides to South Africa because "it's too dangerous" but aren't willing to interrogate the complexity of why that is
Precisely. It is all very sad. And the integration between the different groups is no easy task, no doubt. But I so wish our south african politicians would've remained stead strong on that, instead of busy stealing from the coffers.
@@zzzechra So you criticize Apartheid as a South African yet you go and spend your working capabilities in a country like Sweden? Isn't that a bit hypocritical of you?
São Paulo in Brazil is exactly the same. European descendants live in more central areas and have access to everything they need and live a middle/upper class lifestyle. African descendants, however, all live in favelas and can barely put food on the table. It’s really sad.
Simples porque brancos trabalham e economizam dinheiro enquanto a maioria dos negros ganham o dinheiro e ficam gastando em festas ou itens para "ostentar"
As a Jamaican 🇯🇲 I always watch videos about African countries and one thing is always for sure 90% of the governments are corrupt… and it pains my heart that they’re not setting anything good for the younger generations to come 😭😢😭
And almost every violent crime in affluent areas can be linked to the townships nearby. The communities and police are well aware of the identities of the perps, but remain quiet and allow the savagery to go on.
Bro and why are we forced to study Afrikaans? What are we gonna use it for? They made it so important that we can't progress to the next grade when we fail it.
Go work hard and U 2 can live nice. It's not because we white we make money it's because we WORK. To live nice U must pay. Township is free. Whites don't want free
@@jasonhardy2880 it’s much harder to become rich simply by ‘working’ when you live in townships like these. as mentioned in the video, it takes long hours on transport to major job centres, and many of them don’t have enough money to actually go to college, whereas white people normally would. hard work is important for becoming rich, but you also need a whole ton of privilege and support, which is something a lot of black people don’t have.
@@jasonhardy2880 Listen I'm as conservative as they come and a South African as well. I agree hard work is important but townships are full of kids who aren't stuck there because of their own actions. They were born, their parents couldn't send them to school, and if they could their teacher was probably useless and our government hasn't done anything except lower passing marks every few years to make their stats look better. Black people in townships, even the ones who do go to their local school, leave school with far less knowledge or skills than kids in the typical Model-C or private schools. I don't buy into the full PRIVILEGE meme, but it's inarguable that work ethic is NOT the only factor holding people back. Very important to remember we have like a third of our country unemployed constantly. Even so there is a surplus of labour to the point where people are being hired just to wave flags at construction sites on the road by the government in many cases. There is unfortunately a huge amount of cultural and economic development that needs to happen under the stewardship of a competent and caring government but unfortunately we're stuck with the African National Cancer.
This article is more historical in nature while completely deficient in it's depiction of the impact of the ANC's atrocious governance in crippling the economy that widened the chasm between the rich and the poor.
I'm from South Africa, people here grasp a small fraction of a large concept, these places are populated by quite a large amount of people, but set to current date, there isn't proper leadership, the government made promises that they never kept, the problem is not the citizens it's leadership, unity promotes power and with power we can thrive, but currently the government shows its ok to drain every valuable resources and not maintain the flow of the economy. I wish there was someone who could unify us so we will protect our country together where the government fails.
Dang is it really that bad there? I've been thinking about moving out of America and moving to south Africa because America is destroying itself currently.
Speaking as a Zimbabwean/African of British stock, South Africa and the rest of Africa need to come together in unity. Kindness, Compassion, Love, Unity, Tolerance, Forgiveness, Peace and Respect for one another, our planet and all living beings is the only way to survive and end further suffering. The only way to move forward and evolve as a civilization into higher unity/christ consciousness. We need a country where everyone serves others and other beings. A currency of Kindness where everything revolves around helping one another, our planet and all living beings. Where we all can sit down and see each other with compassion and empathy. We are all the same, deep down. We are ONE human family. ONE CONSCIOUSNESS. Kindness, Compassion and Respect for one another is the only way to heal our continent and rise to glory.
It took over 400 years to create these artificial, lasting divisions. And with conscious and unconscious resistance to change from the middle and upper classes, it will take no less than that to get it right.
It completely misses the mark, because it does not mention that the corrupt ANC is filling it's own coffers to lead a luxury life, while their own fellow black folk is getting nothing from the ANC's riches.
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OMG Im so early!
no
Vox more like
I’m gonna say it
Judge. Judge. Judge.
Silent independent thoughts.
As a South African I can tell you that the divide between the poor and rich is stark, it's gigantic
@Airbus A380-800 white is in the mix
@@PHlophe are white people in S. Africa still racist
Same in America.
@Airbus A380-800 think about that again.
@Airbus A380-800 ask them
As a South African, I say that, our greatest failure is that we could not establish a professional, functioning government.
"With malice toward none; with charity for all."
South Africa, and it's population, have yet to learn this lesson, let alone implement it.
Functioning how? The state of SA was made by functional government to be where it is. If you want to reverse that over night, it would cause chaos
The idea that blacks and whites can live together is broken initself.
@@Melancholicgaurav
idea that whites can live with any other race*
@@Centre14 then why are they all over our country
The black politicians that rule the country seem to have some really nice houses in gated communities - just saying
Probably the same descendants who sold their own people to the rest of the world.
Yeah kick those corrupted clowns out. Get a government who will make the people and there country bloom.
@@harlzaotearoa7769 You mean like when the Brits were there?
As it should be in their own country .
They do and their kids go to schools overseas. They have got mega mansions loaded with all the latest German cars
As a South African, I believe that change will only come when our leaders decide to stop being greedy. We need leaders who really care about the people. I also think there should be a qualification or some sort of assessment a person should go through before being taken up to be a minister or any other position there is up there. We're doomed. But I still have an ounce of hope.
it seems ur government cares more about Pallyztinians than their own people
I hear you on qualification assessments. Even with this new GNU government they’ve just put people into positions even if they don’t have experience with it, like the DA leader being minister of agriculture despite always being an urban boy who only has a matric qualification
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As a person who’s never been to South Africa 🇿🇦 , I can confirm that I’ve never been to South Africa
i lost a braincell tryna understand watchu said 💀
@@Gabriel-jg5wh you must not have many
What a strong statement. You brave soul.
Ah yes, the ground here is made of ground
Same💀
As a South-African I would have hoped they mentioned how corrupt the government is and how they are the reason why we are spiraling out of control.
You must get Julius in there South Africa is the weakest for change
So true!
Its VOX. What did you expect?
Nah, this is about race baiting Voxers
It is not the government its the families that control this land economically, come on who still believes government is in control we all know its names we never hear of because they own everything the Oppenheimer, Rupert's. They operate like mafia
As a Chinese guy working in the government of South Africa, I have to say the government is horrbly corrupt.
And Chinese goverment stealing WEST PH SEA!
Take a look at your own crooked country before you make an observation of another. Go home.
@@airmanma shut up
@@samvillaesterph2951 let’s just say both countries are so ffffffffdddd!
@@airmanma he literally works in the SA gov
My English grandparents, mother, and aunt lived in Port Elizabeth from early 1979 to the end of 1981 before returning to England. Part of the reason they did not stay was because of how upsetting they all found living with apartheid to be. My family is all white. My mother and aunt played with Afrikaaner, Coloured, and Black children, and did not understand why the White South African adults would hassle them. My mother actually learned to speak Xhosa fluently.
I remember my grandmother telling me a story, that one day while in the family apartment, she was watching an enormous fire billow from the nearby Black community, and she called the fire brigade. She did not give them the exact address, but instead directed them to the nearest White house, in the hopes they would not stop to check whether the fire was actually within the White boundary. When the fire brigade arrived, they stopped at the boundary, hovered for about a minute, before switching off the sirens and returning to the station. Over a dozen people, including children, died in that fire. That was the moment my grandparents decided they could not raise their daughters in this country, even if returning to England meant my grandfather would be on the dole. Thinking of that fire still makes my Nan cry to this day.
Truth is Wakanda is behind in evolution thats why they should roam the dessert freely instead of running the country.
Civilzed world has done a mistake leaving the africa to itself and right now Chinese play this game very well exploiting its resources letting the corrupted blacks play in the sandbox…
One look at the gdp numbers or crime rate will be enough if you think otherwise.
Are fire engines and firemen's labor free?
Go read the story of the ants and the grasshopper.
@@davedave4986There is such a thing as common decency and preserving the lives of others. Should I walk on by and not give CPR to somebody who needs it because I’m not on duty and not getting paid.
I can explain why that happened. If you look at the documentary when they pan over the townships. When the people build their homes in the townships they build them out of sheet metal and wood that they find. They also build on top of each other so that families can stay together for a safety aspect. They also don't build them with things like fire trucks, ambulances and police vehicles in mind and so these types of vehicles cannot get to people if the fire or if a person is in a emergency.
If you cant get your vehicle to the scene to help then there is nothing you can do other than go back to your station and help others that you can get to. Its a sad truth that most South Africans have to live with.
@@davedave4986 So is this a race thing are you genuinely that devoted to greed?
the fact that it’s literally separated by a little pathway
This is the same in many cities all over the world. The wealthy live in neighbourhoods not far from ghettos. Very, very common.
@@EchoBravo370 frl
@@EchoBravo370 we’ll said 😞😞👍
@@EchoBravo370 One gets used to it tbh, it's a part of life in some areas
They were even separated by train tracks ,Highways , open fields . This made it difficult for people to move through the divided areas . And that infrastructure still remains and furthers the division.
At least our government is working super hard and doing everything in their power to fix these issues.
Oh wait.....
Lol
This right here
SA politicians are too busy having each other assassinated over drug money to come up with good policy decisions, unfortunately
Unfortunately, the people who want to fix these problem usually end up 6 ft under...
Haha you have jokes neh 🤣🤣🤣
As a South African I can say that the divide between the rich and poor is still as great as before. As an Indian whose parents grew up in very poor neighbourhoods I am very fortunate to have the life that I have but while a few managed to have a “new” life after apartheid most have not changed
Seems like classicism just replaced racism.
@@walterroux291 usually how it goes. Racism and classism switch places depending on the needs of the elite. La roue tourne
@@walterroux291 Excuse me for pointing out a presumably unintended spelling mistake, but if only it had been classicism rather than classism that had replaced racism... Seeing doric, ionic and corinthian columns everywhere would get tedious very quickly, but at least it doesn't harm people.
wait pardon me so.. are you south asian or south african?
Where you born in south africa?
As a Canadian, I was under the impression that South Africa was under black majority rule since after Apartheid
Yes, it has been, but the ANC have been destroying everything that worked really well, created before, during and after apartheid and yet they still blame apartheid.
Yes it is! And theyve not done very good at all, but the facts speak for themselves.
However id be happy to elaborate if youd like...
@@watchout5508 Please do!
Yes we are and we are worse of then under the white. As a cloloured it is bad bad bad! Don't get me wrong. There are bad under the coloured commuties just as under any other nation. Although we did not have equality under the white people but we were Safe! Our country prospered. It is sad what our country is reduced to now.
@@watchout5508let’s hear it!
As an “upper class” POC in South Africa, I can tell you, it is very strange. I go to a private school where 99% of the students are white despite 70%+ of the country being black.
Kinda weird that you choose to go to a minority school even though majority of schools are black. Something must be better about these white schools?
You are a lucky man
Then goto school where black are majority
@@ypey1 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 u know what happened
@@ypey1 how
I can't believe it only ended in the mid-90's. Seems so recent. And people try to say we're past racism now. The problems still persist.
This is still going on in America
Google( "Bell pottinger South africa) its mind blowing 🤯
The hatred that exists between both the communities is just heartbreaking
@@imcloud305 BLM's concern is the Upliftment of African -American population, what has it got to do with South-Africa
@@blackpathos5791 oh ok
I thought they mean
BLACK LIVES MATTER
Not
AFRICAN AMERICAN LIVES MATTER
They should really change the name
“No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela.
@Akash Jacob troll detected
But there's more to be gained by hatred than by love. Hate makes you win elections. Hate makes you rich. Hate often times gives you a strong sense of purpose.
@Akash Jacob what do you mean some people are superior than others?
@Akash Jacob How does living standard correlate with superiority?
I feel sorry for people now who are called racist, because they know nothing different. Every baby that is born has no hate or anger int hem whatsoever; it’s up to other people around them to inject their ideals into the child which they will grow up believing.
Just a small correction, the Afrikaners do not descend just to Dutch but also French Huguenot and German.
o.k
Yeah anyway the afrikaners descended from the Dutch
@@mehmeh1234 and French, German. Also from modern Belgium. Plus Portuguese and Scandinivian. And some degree of distant South Asian and African too.
@@EllliotJackRussel1 ah yes dutch
@@mehmeh1234 you're wrong.
Yes, this is why education is so important. The ANC after thirty years of rule have not been able to do much except line their own pockets.
Can we also compare the contribution to South Africa? I'm pretty sure one side adds to the economy while the other side drains it.
Also all the services you mentioned are paid for over and above the high tax levels
The ANC encouraged strikes that shut down the public schools. ANC senior officers also sent THEIR children to private schools or schools outside South Africa, so they got good educations. Those who had gone to the now closed public schools got nothing. This an educational hole which has been a burden on the country in to the present day.
@@Dutch_Uncle i'm not trying to be racist or anything, but it seems that every african nation that gain independent from the colonial power and now has native people as their leader are really messed up :( corruption, human rights violation, basically just a dictator
The philosophy that more education is a solution to Africa's problems has taken some recent hits. Young people have left educational institutions only to find that the employment opportunities are not what they had anticipated, and they are not happy. Perhaps "appropriate" education would be a better goal, even though the term has a ominous and dictatorial ring. Education is frequently seen as a way to get out of Africa and have a more abundant life elsewhere.
It is probably a legend that there are more Nigerian doctors outside Nigeria than there are practicing in Nigeria, but people with portable profession and credentials recognized elsewhere can respond to the chance for a better life. A physician attempting to provide services in a hospital with intermittent electricity, food service provided by relatives of the patients, and nurses who are just a couple of notches above cleaning ladies can be tempted to go where medical standards are more like the ones experienced in medical school.
@@axellfonz I cAn't fully explain it but I can tell you one thing it's not a race problem just look up the history of Botswana it's basically the only African country that made it out of colonialism in one piece since it was a protectorate ruled by natives under the British and it's first president was a visionary and not a dictator the only countries richer than Botswana in Africa are south Africa and oil rich countries like equatorial guinea
It's a mind-boggling reality in South Africa. The other great divide is Sandton vs Alexandra. A highway (M1) divides Africa's richest square mile from one of the poorest neighborhoods in the country. There are countless other examples besides Cape Town.
The same could be said for Durban
Alexandra*
I've lived there for a year and its really strange seeing Lamborgini's driving by "public braai's" in bushes where boereworst was sold by low income people.
ya lalla
True, but as someone who has lived in Cape Town, Johannesburg and Durban among other places, I have to say Cape Town has a Group Areas Act legacy that is extreme compared to other SA cities.
(And yes they did use an extreme example in Strand even within Cape Town but an 80% white neighbourhood is not THAT unusual in Cape Town)
In a place like Johannesburg a significant number of the affluent & upper classes are black. (Quantitatively now the majority)
In Durban much of the affluent classes are black too.
*In Cape Town, on the other hand, in many places you feel like you're demographically not in Africa.*
(I will say though there is something journalistically disingenuous by VOX in not making clear that while the informal neighbourhoods are majority black, only about 10% of the population lives in informal areas as shown. In Cape Town about 20% of the population.)
Thank you for covering this.
Thanks for commenting, Beast
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As a swiss living in switzerland i can confirm nothing
Good point
I agree
I wish I lived in Swtzerland , I hear you get Milk from the tap
@@Kanairaw and choccolate too
hahahahaha brilliant
The most shocking part of this, aside from it having happened at all, is just how recently this ended. It's gonna take ages to right these wrongs
ended? this is still going on all over the country
@@gidd world*
@@gidd I meant the official Apartheid movement, not the currently still existing fallout
There wasn’t universal international pressure, either. Margaret Thatcher and many other neoliberal and conservative politicians supported or ignored the apartheid system.
I am South African and I was lucky enough to get a decent enough education to allow me to earn enough to move out of the townships. Unfortunately though, not every black South African has this opportunity afforded to them and so the RSA government put in place laws to empower them. Problem is the white population go on global campaigns to investors saying how the system is now reversed because of affirmative action laws and land laws. Thus there’s no real follow through and black people remain marginalised
As a South African, I can tell you the differences are huge, but the city’s are becoming bigger than their regions. Mega city
Fortune Mabaso peace be unto you. For a word of encouragement please listen to Pastor Jennings (Truth of God Broadcast)
Mega city like from the movie Judge?
Hello 👋
😂😂😂 pointless comment cities getting bigger wow 👌
As a South African, I think this video should've gone more into depth of the problems that cause this like corruption, over population, too much conflict between races.
And we should also take into consideration that 8,4% of South Africa's population is white and 80,3% black
and according to SARS 20% of the population is carrying the rest of the 80%
of the country as 80% of the populations do not pay taxes or water or lights etc...
they demand (and its a human right not against it) but they want it for free.
they forget there are costs involded for a country to build a infastructure
or do ppl think things just magically appear with no costs involded.
but same old problem the lack of education is the root of the majority of ignoraces.
ou and i forgot to mention something very important
80% will claim they earn peanuts hence they cant and wont pay
but majority also do peanuts so how can you expect to earn 20 but you produce only 3
that means the company is forced to hire 6 more like him to produce the 20 and 20 get splitted 7 ways instead of one
its a vicious never ending circle
again education education eductaion can never say enough of it
@@julliandsg772 yh I agree with what ur saying but in South Africa you can be the best educated person applying for a job and someone else would get it just because of the colour of their skin, and thats the sad truth
Having these two groups separate works best, this is also common in many parts of the US.
Come on dude South Africa is not overpopulated...Not even close
I was in South Africa for 87 days in 1997. South Africa has a very serious problem that they do not talk about, which is language. The South African Constitution guarantees the right to be educated in your native language. When I was there there were 11 spoken languages down from 16. They were afraid that Nelson Mandela was going to make everyone learn English in school also the people born and educated before apartheid stopped, received traditional tribal educations. Therefore there are lots of adult Blacks who have no Western education and speak only their tribe's local language. Many Whites do not speak a native language such as Zulu or Xhosa (Pondo tribe) so communication is a mess contributing to poverty.
That's not true language barrier is not a factor in today's modern world it was in the 1900's but not today
@@shisuiofthesharingan7621 The language barriers are also tribes. When I was in R.S.A. tribal warfare was still popular. R.S.A. is not a Christian country; it is more like a collection of inner-city gangs speaking different languages.
they need to use both zulu and english
@@xmoreno3366 Nelson Mandela and the other politicians are all Zulu as far as I know. Their constitution requires that everyone be educated in the language of their own choice, this was written into their constitution to prevent Mandela from making English the official language. Africans was disestablished as the state language in retaliation against the Boers. Watch the movie Shaka Zulu to understand who is running South Africa now.
@@Eusebeia7You really need to get your facts straight.
Most shocking part: The majority (over 90%) were only allowed to live in 8% of the land.
And it was the worst part of the land with little to no benefit
Black people weren't 90% of the population when apartheid was implemented.
Before anyone puts my words out of context, I disagree with the way the country was managed e.g. apartheid and others. But it is indeed shocking to see that nothing significant happened in those communities. I think it's a dream for any entrepreneur to have that many people on such small land.
@@schadenfreude000 I was also including 'coloured' people.
It is a scewed analogy to compare the two. Large parts of South Africa are arid and mountainous and not really habitable. Not even whites live there.
For those who think Geography is just memorize countries and capital cities, this is REAL geography. Please, keep doing this kind of videos.
Greetings from an uruguayan geography teacher 🇺🇾
I honestly didn't know that 😩 🇺🇸
@@christiant.1113 I recommend you the work of William Bunge (an american geographer) and Yves Lacoste (a french geographer).
Well this is more history than geography but I get your point. Learning about different problems in different parts of the world makes you educated about geography
agreed
There is real geography?
It's a shame if South Africa leaders who are black can't make living comfortable for their brothers
They live on the rich side. They don't care about them
Preach my brother!
I just wish we could try to take a white president again
They can, they choose not to
Well most of them got imported from other places in Africa, with busses, being promised lies by the leading people to secure votes, 25 years ago. Now, they are there, without any perspective and hope given to them and mostly playing the victim card. Well, thats at least what a Tanzanian uber driver told me once. He said those people are even too lazy to work. Which is why he and many of his fellows, and dudes from Mozambique, Nigerians etc. can be found as Uber drivers. The township people apparently don‘t want to put in the effort to work. As Uber driver at least. 😂
As a Brazilian, I see many sad similarities between South Africa and my country.
Depends
The real truth is that people from Namzamo want to get out of there and never look back and go to the other side without ever looking back.
Can't blame them.
@@janepatton8100 That's right. It's their leaders who are to be blamed for using them for their votes but not caring for their development
AMEN
@SWAT Kats you obviously have a complete lack of understanding where are those people going to live while apartments are being built? Where are they going to get the money from? How much rent will be charged for those apartments?
You literally are just sayin that gentrification is the answer when actually you could result in an almost forced eviction of already marginalized people with low income
@SWAT Kats you clearly do not know the situation here :D
Not a single White person got interviewed in this video. Not a surprise to me.
Diversity
They don’t want to tell the truth and want to hurt peoples Feelings especially whites.
Thank you ... the fact that it makes it seem like white ppl are bad isn't true ...
They can't have a little thing like truth spoil their facts can they ....
What would a white person say in this video? Lol
Thanks for covering this story. It feels it's gonna take generations to fix the lasting effects of apartheid
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Since the minority white people has lost most of the political power, shouldn't they be allowed forming their own community? Wouldn't it be "culture genocide" not allowing white people to live together?
@@johnanon372 no it isn't. Stop whitespainling apartheid.
@@johnanon372 if you want to stay in your own community you can stay or go back to Europe.
@@johnniewaiker6203 stop being racist towards white South Africans
Africa has been always separated, tribally. White is just a different tribe
We are also separated tribally in many cases. They just like to ignore that though.
You can see this in several Latin American countries as well, namely Peru and Ecuador with strong indigenous populations.
Yep😔
As a Peruvian who was privileged enough to be born into the middle upper class and was able to immigrate to Canada, can confirm. It was a shock when I first looked up about my country and saw the condition that aboriginal people lived in. It wasn't the Peru that I knew and it was heartbreaking to see how the Peruvian government treats those that lived in the country beforehand
Of course it’s all the EU’s fault
Bruh Its nowhere near as bad as in South Africa the situation in Latin America is completely different the main difference is separation by economic class NOT BY RACE although in many places indigenous people can suffer discrimination.
ya thats all correct
Seeing a foreign perspective of South Africa is always very interesting, because living in Cape Town this stuff is so normalised and when watching these videos it’s always eye opening again
It’s not normalized it is normal
America has this going on too, but to a lesser extent.
* the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist.
Often it takes an outsider to truly "notice" a problem.
@@jamesharden1122 Correct. The Monopolists are busy ossifying the economy. Beverly Hills and Skid Row. New Jack City for the masses
South Africa's problem is not necessarily with race at the moment. The problem is our corrupt government and a greedy private sector which corrupts the black government...
The current ruling party(ANC) does a lot to frustrate the development of this country because they prioritise money over building and developing the country to better the lives of the previously and historically disadvantaged.
It seems like that is the weakness of all the governments with an English influence. It is an easy system for rich people to buy.
@@funmaster4632 definitely agree. When you take a close look at African governments that operate in Anglophone African countries, they are always for sale in one way or the other. Our African governments sell us to the highest bidder then enjoy the spoils amongst each other and those well connected to the political elite. While the majority languishes in hopelessness and poverty. They also thrive on divisions. Ordinary South Africans for the most part are just trying to get by but politicians understand that its easier to control the populace if they are not adequately educated, are not self sufficient, divided and for the most part depend on the government's which exploit and manipulate them.
@@funmaster4632 have you considered a chinese influence?
@@sarahjones79 Yes... Highest Bidder!
I do agreed with you, it's less about racial but just the huge inequality due to corrupt government.
Inequality between common people vs. ruling class.
People might think since black-majority govt rules the country, black folks must be so rich by now. But if you look at it more closely, BOTH black and white folks are getting poorer due to incompetence of the corrupted govt. White folks poverty is as rampant as black folks. Unfortunately, the ruling class of SA is jumping into the opportunity to divide the people and make the poverty issue as racial when the fact is that, it's less about racial, but just common theme of corrupted politicians vs. regular people and corrupted govt often pit people from different racial background against each other so that you wouldn't pay attention to them, wouldn't pay attention to their corruption.
This video does not mention the most crucial point for answering the very question asked in the title... The fundamental reason why overcoming borders and work towards the future has been so stagnant since the end of apartheid is the current government... It was a very symbolic and ecstatic moment when the ANC with Nelson Mandela overtook the legislation and for a few short years there was great hope for a bright future but corruption and incompetence have since become so rampant to the point of literal anarchy... The tragedy of this shell of a government that is the today's ANC cannot be understated...
corruption, incompetence and anarchy, now where do you see the same pattern in Africa again and again?? since African independance and 'the great liberation' from colonisation!
That's Black Rule for you!
As a South African myself, I can tell you this video speaks volumes.
Ok
A 10 minute video when she just needed to say "capitalism"
@Rusty Shackleford Maybe we shouldn't say what racist whites say. Cause we are Africans and we don't think like that. We are different and have fought to not let the isolation of capital infect us.
@@shrewms5225 The Apartheid part needed to be explained.
@Rusty Shackleford just stop.
In University, I have classmates that can't afford data and others who are driving convertibles to school everyday.
This is just an example that displays the growing inequality in SA.
A decent second hand car will cost you at least R50k
1Gb of Data costs around R80 I think.
NFSAS
to be fair im from the states and it’s the same here 😅
@@andres_realxoxo is it like that all over the states?
@@tsheposeanego5582 No, most college students are short on cash because of paying for loans, the rich kids go to private colleges so it's not like that here idk what that dude is on about.
@@KrustyKrabPizza22 and that’s okay you’re happy with the inequality???
Five kids that finished school the same year, from Limpopo, are now living in Cape Town, the reason....absolutely no jobs closer to home.
Limpoopoo
And this is why Coloureds in Cape Town cannot find work
@@DC_Fedens Lol
As a South African black i can tell you Nomzamo is a slum the people there just found land settled. No planning from municipality or any government hence service delivery is not easy.
People there don’t pay municipal rates or anything. Others don’t pay rent, bond or anything. Just settling.
Many problems of such settlements are self inflicted.
If I was a white person living in south africa now, I'd leave the country asap, things will get real messy soon, just an advice
Are whites and white businesses being targetted there now ?
@UCt3yf4IpDPMmEGOcyb-h2BA Hope people remain safe
Look into how white farmers and their children have been treated in the past few years. Some of the stories I have heard, still stick with me because of how horrific they were
Hurry up then!
@@chadnuts look how black citizens in their land have been treated for HUNDREDS of years and are still treated today, you don’t have the morale high ground here
I remember when I went to South Africa, we drove past a huge gated community in Cape town with a golf course in the middle. We'd heard earlier that there was a drought, so many of the townships didn't have access to clean water that summer... But the golf course had sprinklers flowing over it all day long. That pretty much summed up the situation across the country imo.
@Subhuman Manlet Mr old pale Johnny?.
The golf course uses borehole water...
@@janco333 so? Isn't that the same as a well? Yknow, wells that people drink from?
there it is
its complicated because those rich people also contribute more to the government through taxes. yes they are rich but also one rich person might contribute as many as 500 poor people.
The thing is our government cannot actually handle this huge influx of people that have come into the major cities in South Africa. I know the logical solution is to build houses for them closer into for example Cape Town but we literally have no money to do so.
That's not how it works. The economy runs on debt, SA's inflation is ~3-4 percent. Real growth is less than 1% and slowing. SA 10 year government bonds have a 9.2% yield (interest). These are very okay numbers. The government could issue more bonds to finance housing programs. Cape Town should drastically increase density to get the economic benefits of being a city. (With increased density infrastructure becomes easier to finance because there are more people relatively who need to finance it. Even simple things like buses become a lot more effective.)
@meow purr Oligarchy?
And still controlled by the white man and white monopoly companies
@@wojciechkomar197 Yep this was the plan since the 1940s.
The Anglos (led by Harry Oppenheimer) realized South Africa needed a multiracial oligarchy (and a multiracial middle class) to be stable in the post-colonial world.
The Afrikaners having largely been an impoverished tribe themselves didn't want to give up the industrial state the Anglos had handed them and instead saw in Apartheid the alternative (to handing over like the rest of Africa and South Asia).
By 1994 the negotiation for this multiracial oligarchy had been achieved.
The constitutional arrangement along with BEE deals freezes the 19th century economy in place and keeps the old oligarchy (white business & black aristocrats) in along with members of the old black middle class moving up into the oligarchy.
Sampie Terrblanche a late Stellenbosch economics professor once described this setup very well a few years ago:
The Top 25 - 30% (roughly 20 million) are the elite and live first world lives.
The 20% below them are neither here nor there (doing OK-ish financially) and live relatively well and first worldly, certainly by *global* standards, too.
They in total make up the Top 45- 50%.
The bottom 50% -55% are low income and live adjacent to the world of the Top 50%.
The bottom 20% live in slums and the bottom 13% (still millions) live in the informal settlements shown.
The informal/slums are almost all black/coloured.
The middle & affluent classes are now 70% black.
The white are heavily concentrated in the affluent classes, quite often as beneficiaries of generational wealth.
Very little formal Capital goes to the bottom half, despite a massive informal sector. Financing is extremely limited to the "formal" economy, i.e. the oligarchs' stake.
This despite the fact that the individual informal unrecorded business sectors are estimated to be worth billions annually and with bank funding could rival formal business if formalized, and one wouldn't want that apparently.
@rigorous mortis so what you saying if I was white and my parents and grandparents who stole the land minerals etc have now died that I should be entitled to what they stole yet you not willing to pay the price for the sins .
I am not European, but I have to admit that Europeans manage things well. Even in rural areas in Russia, it looks cleaner and more peace. But some people will say that this is racism. Maybe we should have started to reflect ourselves.
What tf has russia to do with it? Russian people are not fully european. They are slavic mixed with asians
Yes, we brought civilization, and now that we left africa is returning to africa
@@weskerkings651 t f are you on? You cant be serious 💀
Europe may look tidy now, but it was built on centuries of theft, slavery, and exploitation of the entire world. It’s easy to seem superior when you’ve spent generations profiting off others' suffering. This is historical fact, and anyone ignoring it is simply showing their ignorance and refusal to face the truth.
@weskerkings651 mane i hate colonizers
It hits hard when you learn about people being racially segregated and then see actual people who were affected by apartheid and are still alive. It just reminds you of how very recent apartheid was.
@Lethal Shots Because of apartheid, if it never happened, then their situation would be better today.
@Lethal Shots so you’re trying to say apartheid was a good thing then?
@Lethal Shots sounds like it, which tells me all I need to know about your character or lack of
@Lethal Shots -but the truth about how disgusting “human beings” are.
@Lethal Shots In what world is systematically impoverishing someone a good thing?
I, as a South-African, was taught all this in school. But the thing that stuck with me the most was a line from my father, who was raised during apartheid. He talks about social capital; how with each generation the divide widens. White people are often able to pass down inheritances of house, land and the education. How to use libraries and free resources, the ability to locate close to good schools, and budget for tertiary education. They are able to pass on the knowledge of how to act and work within society. Whereas the people so horrifically oppressed by apartheid often cannot. There is often no inheritance or land or advice on how to operate in within the economy. There is not always the ability to share with the next generation the knowledge of how to save money or invest. This social capital - the gains one gets from knowledge of how to operate as an equal and functioning member within society - widens the gap as generations go by. It is this lack of social capital which acts as one of the factors of the poverty trap. I hope for my generation that we can truly work towards righting the wrongs of the oppressive regime of apartheid.
In the United States everyone can have access to public library, some or most parents don't bother teaching their children how valuable their lives are living in U.S. There are County, State & Federal benefits paid for by us the taxpayers.
BTW I was born in Mexico with no running water, toilet or electricity. I'm blessed in U.S.A.
You have aptly pointed out the very problem lingering formerly oppressed peoples, the lack of social capital. Your father is a very wise man.
To fight through this. There needs to be one black person who is willing and skillful to compete against the white market. Seriously I believe this is the only way. Once that black person manages to have a strong enough economy to be seen as important in the town, the government will start working with him, then major changes are easy because the government is in control. But this will probably happen given enough time
There must someone from family who will break the cycle of poverty. If you will just continue to pass down blame on the system which is non-existent, you will not be abale to devise a way how to be at par with the other people. Initive must come from you and not doled out by somebody.
I visited in 1994. It is basically a two tier society. The USA is devolving into this I believe as some Latin American countries are. The bottom tier have no access to education nor good advice. They are stuck with a Losers Formula to keep them where they are. I live in the UK. Things are better but there is as always the push by Monopolists to stratify social mobility as you have in high GINI coefficient countries
Our Country Still Needs Leadership That Puts People First & Not Just Claims To Do So. 🇿🇦
Also one that stops pitting races against each other and isn't totally corrupt.
Basically, anyone that isn't the ANC.
Same here in America idk what took me so long to realize that democrats promise, then never deliver, yet 90% of us still vote Democrat, look at Baltimore, St. Louis, Chicago, 100 years of empty democrat promises, what do we have to lose voting republican, they're not racist, they just expect the same from us as they do whites, not the soft bigotry of low expectations which is the democrats bread and butter
@@pork8829 So true, the downtrodden have no race, just a very real oppression. Till we learn to ignore the race baiting and work together, the rich and corrupt will always win.
Moving off-grid than paying tax to promote evil socialism is better choice. I would rather spend my wealth on me than spend it on promoting socialist laziness.
The real question is why aren't back people teaming up to make their community better
As a South African whose parents lost their homes in Cape Town because of this Group Areas Act, I can say I relate to and appreciate this video.
I’m sorry that your parents had to go through that. It never should have happened 😔This world is messed up
Same
Why are south african farmers under attack?
@@selcukdilek4656 which farmer did you see under attack?
@@mamokgethimphahlele4508 it is a well known topic. But it is mostlt white farmers that end up being killed. There are some news reports.
FACT CHECK : Im South African.
The railroad was put in for agriculture. *NOT DIAMONDS*
Agree, there are so many factually incorrect statements in this video but this disinformation has been part of the the media's narrative for many years
This video was obviously fact checked by Facebook's team.
I don’t know much about South Africa but when I heard the statement that they filled the railroad to transport diamonds I thought that sounded a little ridiculous. If diamonds were so plentiful that you needed trains to transport them all they would not be worth so much.
@@danbeeson9564 Well actually diamond are not that rare. Go hunt internet and you will find out how there is old family keeping those rocks rare. When new mine is found they will force you to give it to them.
Vox has never been known for their accuracy. They have a political agenda just like all US media outlets.
Some scars of history need more than time to heal, they need work as well.
And we need to be taught about them so history doesn't repeat itself
@@DyslexicMitochondria Cool username. Cool channeI too
GHM
Like... a revolution or a war?!
@@ypey1 Lol no, I meant changes to land development, providing housing, higher education and creating economic opportunities for non-white people.
South Africa has been under Black majority democratic rule for 34yrs.
The Black government continues to perpetuate the apartheid style land development and even now low cost housing is poor quality, high density and miles from where the most people work.
I'm From Ethiopia. And I just don't understand how someone in their own native land and in their ancestor's lands can be told where they can settle and where they can't. I feel sorry for my South African brothers and sisters. Hope things change.
The people of South Africa migrated to areas that had jobs (and they still are). The current govt built housing on the cheapest land, essentially recreating what had happened before. it's economic division thats recreating the seperation now. Isnt this happening in Ethiopia too?
Things changed alright but it just got worse
@@scottyflintstone There is a gap between the rich and the poor in Ethiopia. But the thing is everyone is the same. We're all Ethiopians (black Ethiopians) and Ethiopia didn't have a history of segregation. No one was discriminated against because of the color of their skin.
That is not their land, they are migrants and they ilegaly settled on the outskirts of the cities, which of course were cites built by Europeans. And they expect the guverment to build them houses? Where else in this world the guverment is supposed to build you houses just because you exist? And then even if you have a house, how they can afford to pay the bills? Cause if they will aford the bills, they sure can afford to build their own houses.
In short, you have a nice house that you payed for, and some migrants build some illegal shacks nearby, how it is your fault or the government's fault that you live in a decent house and the migrant is living in a shack?
@@abenezerethiopiawi Right... But South Africa and Ethiopia don't have the same history or trajectory, so your comparison of yourselves to us makes no sense
I'm South African🇿🇦 and this is sooo accurate. Unfortunately this spacial divide will continue so long as the Economic divide persists
Sandton suburbs are 70 percent black, 15 white and 15 others like asian etc. Not like Capetown.
As long as the ANC stays in power. Things will continue to regress
@F*СК MЕ - СНЕCK МY РR0FILЕ tolol
Then you will have the other effect. Birds of a feather flock together. People cluster. That's why you have regions in a city like Chinatown, or little Italy.
No we need to solve it by segregating race and dividing wealth based on that (sarcasm)
As a South African I will say that the government is doing nothing to cut off this unequalities and this unequalities are getting worse as the years move on
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Dude, the African government had openly admitted to wanting to genocide whites.
What do you want govt to do?
You have the same opportunities you asked for now?
@@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993 yeah after decades 🙄 you can’t expect a society to catch up to one developed decades before it
@@XykuJoxa not the Anc that sold their soul to Europeans
Segregation is normal, segregation is natural,
people hate each other, and they always will.
This is only 1% of the whole story
The murder of the farmers is part also, what the rest ?
There taking back their land .it's not about murder . Your probably an Isreal supporter so you know all about reclaiming land that's not yours.
@@BG-uf8kh if you murder some one its literally murder just because his ancestors did bad things doesnt justify such a despicable act
@@BG-uf8kh Going right back to being Heathens ! Not a success story.
@@BG-uf8kh it’s not their land. Only people who can really complain are the Khoisan and Coloureds. The white people deserve to be there as much as anyone there. Look up the Bantu expansion or even the Zulu massacres.
Their conditions is also in part due to immigration and culture. Compare the populations from 1900s to 1960s to today. 80 million black South Africans live there now, which is an explosion in population.
I feel like saying "colonialism is over" in any context is really minimizing its enduring impact
Colonialism will never be truly over. As long as wealthy people turn poor / middle class white folk on everyone else. The two communities will never unite to be one.
Indeed. That sentiment also brushes over the phenomenon of neo-colonialism. i.e how former colonial powers continue to extract wealth and resources from the global south without formally owning colonies.
And ignores that fact that colonialism is still happening.
@@MrOzzification And then conveniently scapegoat China for beginning to join in on their game. World is sick
@@gemain609 i think people are sick of not holding china to the same standards that they'd apply to any other western nation, ie. "Colonialism bad", but china's colonialism is okay, because they get to play catch up i guess?
I've lived in Cape Town for many years and this is tragically accurate.
What are people doing to fix it?
@@NomadA1 Not gonna insult you but obviously nothing
@@NomadA1 nothing obviously
@@High1QWealth ok racist
@@High1QWealth Safe from the blacks? What do you mean, what are you trying to say?
Thank you for showing papers and for talking with people. Here in the US, there's long been a tendency to throw the word "apartheid" very blandly, without talking about how it happened, what the process was and what this process did to people. The details of this are vital to our understanding of what today's South Africa looks like.
Apartheid is dutch?
People naturally separate because they are in different families. Why would you want to mix humanity? Have you ever lived in a ghetto that's
@@ajax3017 exactly, I mean only white people have the right to come and occupy and take the lands from the natives by any means necessary, I mean how else would they learn. If in that process it leads to apartheid, genocide, who cares
i think showing people who are essentially victims of apartheid also helps to establish that this isnt some thing that happened and was done with by the 50s and 60s, apartheid didnt end until 1996, during living history for many many people, and its consequences are still very much felt by many people. i think it rly helps people to see just how real this all was because its easy to brush it off like 'oh well its happened now who cares'
@Joe Shmoe but there is still a large inequality in economic status and living conditions between the races. You seem to be in favor of “separate but equal” but it isn’t equal at all.
South Africa is divided among class lines and sadly, in this country, class is inseparable from race
So there are no black peoples that have nice houses ? Fancy cars ? Earn 70k plus a month ? Oh my bad
@@jamesmostert1519 that is such a small portion of the black population there
@@jamesmostert1519 Also consider that majority of the population in SA is black, then an overwhelming majority of the poorest and most exploited class in SA is ALSO black, then that small percentage of wealthier upper-middle class black South Africans shrinks even smaller. Yet majority of economic power and enormous wealth is held by a very small percentage of people, who are overwhelmingly white, and the majority of the middle class is also white. Class and race are inextricably linked. There may be exceptions, but they are not representative of the big picture. The black people who are more economically secure are a sign that things are getting better but by no means a sign that the work is close to being finished.
I was in South Africa only once (and not only in Cape Town) - and I loved it. But I will never forget riding somewhere on the coast and on one side of the highway there were slums built out of the sheet metal, and then over the next hill, there was a wonderful gated community, with clean and tidy gardens and pool. Really strange picture
Isn't it quite common across the third world? It's just more obviously along racial lines in SA.
@@matt7192 I wonder why
Demographics is destiny.
@@matt7192 Definitely, Rich people from foreign countries come over, build, and the old-world struggles with new laws, and lands. Happens everywhere even before the british "colonized" africa.
@@matt7192 yes, in rio de janeiro its really obvious as well... just the reality of living in a corrupt place
I live in US and i know exactly why S Africa is still so segregated.
why?
@@xiaogelunbu999 Two cultures which are not compatible to each other.
@@xiaogelunbu999 because instead of two equal cultures competing against each other one is giving the other freebies
"Beware of the natives"
Oh my god, that's just sooo terrible.
your homeland' natives itself are deeply racist. Face the truth
Priboemi dilarang masoek
@@idontthinkso2431 wkwkwk
@@jehudaalexsander654 i guess you could say "the table have turned"
@@alvinr17 nah Afrikaans was also natives
I don't know man, these Districts seem to be a world wide phenomenon. I see these Districts everywhere I go and I haven't been to Africa since the late 1970's.
South Africa is extremely racially divided, more so than any other country I’ve seen. The gap between rich and poor is enormous
Because the british ruled the world. And created these mess
Yea, people from the countryside leave their home for going to the city to live in slums, it happen since the industrial revolution.
But it becomes a bit when a stranger comes to your land, take it, exploit and tell where you can or should live.
@@saulporter6404But there are many many very wealthy blacks now. So it's more divided along class lines now than ever before.
As a south african i can confirm that this is the absolute truth...and most of our politicians are super rich from corruption
Hello sv mafs
Hello
Much like the USA, Biden as a key example the Pelosi, etc
With a split in the middle
Your statement is horrible. It should read... AS A SOUTH AFRICAN I AM WORKING ON CREATING WEAPONS OF MASS TO PROTECT MY SOUTHERLAND.
Africans try not to create a failed state challenge
Anglo-Saxon giving their ill take again🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@Inyayobrics countries when their collective average height is 5’6
Botswana?
@@Inyayoangola is one of few great nations in africa and that is only because of Portuguese colonization
@@magmaboi4359more stable than most African countries but still has tons of work to do
As a Polish person who has been to Cape Town before COVID madness, I have to confirm, that talking both with whites and blacks, no matter what, everyone was so open minded, friendly and energetic I can’t believe the SA authorities can’t use this combination to develop open, tolerant, and prosperious land for everyone. And another thing - remember about your painful past, but focus about future. I know what I say, because after 75 years, after the end of WW2, people of my land can live now peacefully with Germans, being good neighbors, friends, and working together for even better future (literally without any borders between our lands)
Europe 🇪🇺
Greed and corruption has been the downfall of South Africa. So much opportunities for greatness . So much potential for living together, on a relatively equal economic level. Oh I should add that all the potential is there because of the people in South Africa. The people in this country are for the most, amazing. A couple of bad apples and the terrible government ruins it for everyone.
@@Picasso7028 true
@@Picasso7028 is government mostly black or white nowadays?
no offence but polish people are some of the most racist out there even though there is tones of you who moved to england (not a bad thing) the only times ive experienced racism in my 13 years of life was from polish people and people even say poland is a very racist country
This is a beautiful data visualization. Can't believe we get this kind of information free at our finger tips now. Much appreciated.
yes, me too! and grateful to be one of those taking full advantage :)
This false premise is manipulating you. Don't be so grateful for free information.
@@jamesepler7156 be quiet coloniser
@@yasminwinwinkxD You're welcome.
What to do with that information is what matters most
Having 10 kids with 5 different women doesn't help the situation
And have stedy job not longer then one month
Matriarchy, polygamy and poverty are the status quo for some people. Not to mention never taking responsibility and blaming everyone else for you problems.
Being denied well deserved positions, salaries, jobs, business opportunities due to skin complexion and give it to the Europeans doesn't help the situation either
@@African1313only the situation is exactly the opposite of what you typed. There are quota laws for all business to exist now. A white can’t run a business without a black partner.
I don’t understand the entire situation and maybe someone can explain to me but as an outside all I see if how the British destroyed this land and then they leave and don’t bother cleaning up their mess
Me, a South African African citizen who already knows all of this: 'Wild'
Alright cool
Yeah same here 😂😂😂
MN,
Always nice to see diff points of views! 😬 I'm South Asian but I loved the borders series Jonny did on this channel about partition and how both Pakistan and India face problems because of it today.
Me too
Since this is Vox, of course you're going to embellish some of the facts. Here you've completely glossed over the ANC government's incorpetence and ignored the different demographics and Gauteng.
you'll never be hard-pressed to find a White South African putting all the blame for all problems in this country on the ANC, the fact is Apartheid and it's 'end' was a mere transition of government and not a transition of society, Mandela was too soft on the National party and enabled people like yourself to still be so entitled after relishing an apartheid legacy.
@@jardinxu5247 but saying the ANC is blameless is also not true lol
@@jardinxu5247you’re not a South African so you’ll never properly understand the situation here. It absolutely is fair to blame the ANC, they’ve destroyed so much
Easier to lead uneducated people than it is to lead Educated people! One of South Africas biggest issue
True and people who benefit from a corrupt, imbalanced system of inequality aren’t incentived to change it because they’ll have to confront their own egos and the lies they’ve been told to shape their respective realities. The poor aren’t the only ones guilty of being blissfully ignorant; It’s an evil 2-sided coin!
You mistake lead amd control
I beg to differ. Education actually makes people easier to lead, but harder to enslave.
@@金森幸子-p3x i completely disagree. Indoctrination is different from education.
@@dougedoug2105 And where exactly does this utopia of equality exist on earth? Equality and equity are two different terms.
For the most part we are all born into this world equal.....naked and unable to care for our selves. The end results though are different with everyone and any government or politican preaching they can guarantee equal outcomes for everyone is not only a liar but a danger to everyone's freedom.
Because one group is more productive than the other. And also, because people usually want to live among their own...common for everyone
One group is hateful. Also living off African resources
And the other group is living off white infrastructure and inventions
Back then the problem was greed and nepotism, today the problem is nepotism and greed. The more things change the more they stay the same.
I grew up during apartheid. We had to live in an Indian neighbourhood. The disparity these days is still real, but it's mostly along economic lines, mostly brought about through apartheid.
I really hope things get better soon
@@DyslexicMitochondria Sup bro I watch your channeI. Love ur vids
Can you tell more about the indian neighborhood.
@@DyslexicMitochondria amazing channeI man
Yeah
I see it as a Robert Frost poem, whoever loves the land owns it, whoever loves the people is the rightful ruler.
I love Robert Frost. I used to read him in school
Could you expand on this? I dont understand how it relates...?
Aweh now u have a point...
Uhmmmm, what now? Patriotism is at an all time low in governance
U mean whoever steals/invades the land.
Now explain the exact same situation globally.
I visited SA 2-3 years ago, wonderful to see where my South African part of the family lived and so on. Good food, good people, less good government !
Where do u live now
Even worse than the one that was in charge?
@Kristoff Bjorgman I'm curios too.
Same boat man my dad's south African and my mum is Scottish and I live in Scotland... visited SA a couple years ago and crime was through the roof very scary stuff. It's a wonderful place run by horrible people. The government is not encouraging change in poor neighbourhoods and not putting money to them. They are corrupt and stealing the money. They have load shedding sometimes no power 8 hours a day but still export power to Zimbabwe. Is a joke. SA needs a proper government who will use money Well and make change for such a wonderful country.
Good government?
U sure you went to South Africa?
Yoh... You've left out a lot. Like yoh... It's well rounded but it only focuses on Cape Town. Johannesburg is a much worse and more complex problem
True true but you can only fit so much into a 10min vid... you would need a couple of feature length documentaries to cover everything that's going on in this country
@@matthewboschin6313 They decided to make it a 10 minute video and intentionally left out the corruption rampant within the current government.
@@Wook1333 the government corruption doesn't eliminate the racial disparity that exists. They could have made it a series and still excluded the government's corruption. Racial disparity would still exist regardless of ANC corruption
@@Wook1333 it goes without saying. Can you think of any government without corruption? Pretty sure people are sick of Americans pointing out other corrupt governments.
@@mokhwibitxwane One of the main promises of the ANC Government was to eliminate racial disparity. Does the scale and prevalence of corruption in South Africa adversely effect the ANC's ability to deliver on that mandate?
As a 64 year old white South African who grew up during apartheid and chose to change it by voting for change in two referendums, I confirm that the content of this video is accurate and true. But our problem today is a corrupt racist government that uses the old apartheid sadness daily to incite the masses. This makes everything stand still around the past. Meanwhile, the officials steal the state money and investments from overseas that are supposed to help the poor people. The bad living conditions is to be blamed on the South African Government and political leaders that mislead the people!
Or the white people that colonize the place to begin with
The White Jews and White Americans use similar logic and excuses to justify the racist systems and circumstances in the countries their descendants colonized!
Well, thats the change it turned out to be
Then you are part of the problem. Sub-saharans aren't capable of living in modern civilization.
you are not South African, you are a white man, from evil descendants of Europe who invaded another country. If I am black born in England and get told I am not English, therefore you are not South African.
This video is highly misrepresented. You should do your research first before publishing. People are not segregated because of the colour of their skin. People are segregated because of the poor choices government has made. Also these townships often come up illegally. They dont have water and electricity because they have just "land grabbed".
VERY TRUE
I like how even the name "District Six" sounds straight out of a Dystopia
@Wurstartig that's what I was gunna say
Ironically, there is a dystopian sci-fi movie called District 9 based and shot in South Africa. Brilliant film.
@@SimbaShan District 9 is a great movie.
@@SimbaShan guy drinks potion and turns into an alien
@mo poppe chappie should count as the sequel, lol !
Visiting South Africa (Cape Town and Johannesburg), I certainly saw the divide. It was amazing how you can go from one area of the country to another and it would be so different - night and day difference.
Bob, you'll find something similar in america so nothing out of the ordinay
At least you were able to notice it - I'm South African currently living in Sweden and it's surprising how many people I've met here from all over Europe who have only holidayed in the tourist traps in Cape Town, so they've only been surrounded by wealthy (mostly white people) and they hardly find anything strange that the only black and coloured people they interact with in those spaces are service staff and workers. They wouldn't dare see more sides to South Africa because "it's too dangerous" but aren't willing to interrogate the complexity of why that is
Precisely. It is all very sad. And the integration between the different groups is no easy task, no doubt. But I so wish our south african politicians would've remained stead strong on that, instead of busy stealing from the coffers.
@@zzzechra well that's the reason I never will go there. Same reason I will never visit other countries for the same reason.
@@zzzechra So you criticize Apartheid as a South African yet you go and spend your working capabilities in a country like Sweden? Isn't that a bit hypocritical of you?
São Paulo in Brazil is exactly the same. European descendants live in more central areas and have access to everything they need and live a middle/upper class lifestyle. African descendants, however, all live in favelas and can barely put food on the table. It’s really sad.
You should exchange places
Yeah definitely, I've never seen black rich people here despite celebrities.
Same happens pretty much everywhere man
Simples porque brancos trabalham e economizam dinheiro enquanto a maioria dos negros ganham o dinheiro e ficam gastando em festas ou itens para "ostentar"
@SANSKAR GUPTA gs0801cs181071 yes and it's still very noticeable in villages where you could see streets segregated by different castes.
As a Jamaican 🇯🇲 I always watch videos about African countries and one thing is always for sure 90% of the governments are corrupt… and it pains my heart that they’re not setting anything good for the younger generations to come 😭😢😭
Every affluent neighborhood in South Africa has an even bigger township nearby.
Same to Kenya lol.
@Mysterious very very popular
And almost every violent crime in affluent areas can be linked to the townships nearby. The communities and police are well aware of the identities of the perps, but remain quiet and allow the savagery to go on.
@@bonololo3748 Mostly because they live in those communities.
@@Cotac_Rastic no one has to commit a crime to get on.
And we still suffer from Tribalism, corrupt politicians and a bad education system
Bro and why are we forced to study Afrikaans? What are we gonna use it for? They made it so important that we can't progress to the next grade when we fail it.
Also people who don't have will to educate
Despite all the problems with education, we still have better education than the USA
@@kenshix7902
Afrikaans is a mandatory subject in school? Also in high school or elementary/ primary school?
That seems to be a running theme in most countries.
I'm from a township in Johannesburg & the richest square mile in Africa is 5 mins away, its the same story here.
Is there a sense of community where you are?
Go work hard and U 2 can live nice. It's not because we white we make money it's because we WORK. To live nice U must pay. Township is free. Whites don't want free
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@@jasonhardy2880 it’s much harder to become rich simply by ‘working’ when you live in townships like these. as mentioned in the video, it takes long hours on transport to major job centres, and many of them don’t have enough money to actually go to college, whereas white people normally would. hard work is important for becoming rich, but you also need a whole ton of privilege and support, which is something a lot of black people don’t have.
@@jasonhardy2880 Listen I'm as conservative as they come and a South African as well. I agree hard work is important but townships are full of kids who aren't stuck there because of their own actions. They were born, their parents couldn't send them to school, and if they could their teacher was probably useless and our government hasn't done anything except lower passing marks every few years to make their stats look better.
Black people in townships, even the ones who do go to their local school, leave school with far less knowledge or skills than kids in the typical Model-C or private schools.
I don't buy into the full PRIVILEGE meme, but it's inarguable that work ethic is NOT the only factor holding people back. Very important to remember we have like a third of our country unemployed constantly. Even so there is a surplus of labour to the point where people are being hired just to wave flags at construction sites on the road by the government in many cases.
There is unfortunately a huge amount of cultural and economic development that needs to happen under the stewardship of a competent and caring government but unfortunately we're stuck with the African National Cancer.
Maybe it has to do with a certain group’s content of character.
This article is more historical in nature while completely deficient in it's depiction of the impact of the ANC's atrocious governance in crippling the economy that widened the chasm between the rich and the poor.
Widen? Apartied and colonialism is still operating.
@@galaxys6071 you can’t spell or think.
@@galaxys6071 75 IQ spotted.
@Zac Braf And we saw the fallout of this last week.
@@resireg If the DA is 4 whites who is the ANC for ?
I'm from South Africa, people here grasp a small fraction of a large concept, these places are populated by quite a large amount of people, but set to current date, there isn't proper leadership, the government made promises that they never kept, the problem is not the citizens it's leadership, unity promotes power and with power we can thrive, but currently the government shows its ok to drain every valuable resources and not maintain the flow of the economy. I wish there was someone who could unify us so we will protect our country together where the government fails.
Dang is it really that bad there? I've been thinking about moving out of America and moving to south Africa because America is destroying itself currently.
@@sethriggle1462 Go & report back lol
every promise our government makes is a lie
@@sethriggle1462 It's only been 30 years post Apartheid
@@sethriggle1462 stay in America trust me, we are trying to find ways out of South Africa by any means necessary
Look what 42 years has done to Zimbabwe... That's like 2036 for South Africa.
The way south africa is going it can be sooner
I'd say sooner
Yes Zimbabwe former Rhodesia
Ian smith
Given to Robert Mugabe
A completely functioning country the Breadbasket of Africa
Destroyed
Speaking as a Zimbabwean/African of British stock, South Africa and the rest of Africa need to come together in unity. Kindness, Compassion, Love, Unity, Tolerance, Forgiveness, Peace and Respect for one another, our planet and all living beings is the only way to survive and end further suffering. The only way to move forward and evolve as a civilization into higher unity/christ consciousness. We need a country where everyone serves others and other beings. A currency of Kindness where everything revolves around helping one another, our planet and all living beings. Where we all can sit down and see each other with compassion and empathy. We are all the same, deep down. We are ONE human family. ONE CONSCIOUSNESS. Kindness, Compassion and Respect for one another is the only way to heal our continent and rise to glory.
You said absolutely nothing here. Stop it
As a non South African, I can confirm that i am not South African
Any logic?
@@riturajborgohain3636 Yes. Humor.
Same
LUL
I am also non South African
It took over 400 years to create these artificial, lasting divisions. And with conscious and unconscious resistance to change from the middle and upper classes, it will take no less than that to get it right.
I can't date a South African White due to the history of the country. I did not experience Apartheid but the pain does not go away.
FYI: I am not a black person
They need to leave south Africa back to Europe, why would you sleep with people's whose ancestors stole yours?
@@stephenmyers6595 It sounds like you live with alot of hate in your heart.
@@galbeeyutdmok651 White South Africans aren't citizens of any other country, my friend. No where else to go.
For once an international video about SA that doesn't completely miss the mark.
It does however miss the entire mark with regards to what happened since 1994 though.
It completely misses the mark, because it does not mention that the corrupt ANC is filling it's own coffers to lead a luxury life, while their own fellow black folk is getting nothing from the ANC's riches.
@@xyzaero why do south africans do this? Point something terrible the apartheid did and they start pointing fingers to Zuma lol
I've seen the same narrative in older videos.
@@mohammadshabih5293 Cause all non-South African sources literally only mention Aparthied and then basically stop afterwards.
Concluding this as racism and calling it a day is the best way to keep the poor as they are.