Anker Powercore+ 26800 PD USB Power Bank - Honest Review

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  • @Larry-Lobster
    @Larry-Lobster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    For such a small channel, your videos have really high production value, like something you'd expect from tech insider. Awesome work!

    • @jamskof
      @jamskof 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      really larry? this was crap, it was an unboxing not a review

  • @chronicbear4207
    @chronicbear4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought mine for around 130$ on May 10, 2018. It is Oct 22,2021 and it's still going strong and I always travel and camp with it best purchase ever

    • @stellagyan6593
      @stellagyan6593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hiya :) I want to buy this power bank for my iPhone and android. do you know which cables I need to buy along with it?

    • @chronicbear4207
      @chronicbear4207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stellagyan6593 Your normal USB phone cable should work just great. If you want a faster charge go with a USB-C to Lightning cable for iphone and a USB-C to C cable for your Android. Only 1 at a time your secondary phone will be on the other usb port. Anker has the best combo's. Also I still have my power bank today. Best purchase ever

    • @stellagyan6593
      @stellagyan6593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chronicbear4207 thank you. how much faster does it charge?

    • @chronicbear4207
      @chronicbear4207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stellagyan6593 usb is regular charge and usb c is fast charge

    • @stellagyan6593
      @stellagyan6593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chronicbear4207 thanks a lot x

  • @JinMizushima
    @JinMizushima 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love that they include the mesh bag. I use it to all the time.

  • @TukabelTukabel
    @TukabelTukabel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for your honest review. You have an amazing channel.

  • @MrCR4ZyGamer
    @MrCR4ZyGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was going to buy one if these chargers but thanks to you i saved couple bucks by using my switch charger.
    Great content, liked and subbed.

  • @whodoyouvoodo3987
    @whodoyouvoodo3987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Might be worth adding how long it takes to charge the power bank and the output for how fast it can charge your phones....etc.

    • @Bunny-pr8gw
      @Bunny-pr8gw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just bought one of these and it’s been charging for two days and won’t turn on. Maybe mine is defective

    • @jaycash8611
      @jaycash8611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bunny-pr8gw definitely defected... I’m on my 2nd one bc my 1st one was stolen out of my room but both of mine took about 8 hours for a full charge but it won’t need another charge for a few days...

    • @risottonero7347
      @risottonero7347 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaycash8611 .

  • @linamaklad7358
    @linamaklad7358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found this channel a few days ago and I’m obsessed with the reviews. Please keep posting videos, I’ve learned so much about tech gear

  • @conorthompson4157
    @conorthompson4157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    !!!!! $67 on amazon today!!! !!!!

  • @rydmerlin
    @rydmerlin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Her hair is the star of this video. Bravo.

  • @JoeJoeJoeUrBoat
    @JoeJoeJoeUrBoat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just purchased one, thanks for the informative video! Looking forward to it.

  • @CumminsN14DBest
    @CumminsN14DBest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can NEVER Get enough of YOU or these Fantastic Reviews! You Go Gurl!!

  • @Sayedimg
    @Sayedimg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You deserve more subscribers, absolutely great 😘

  • @QuantumBraced
    @QuantumBraced 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You're not paying as much for the charger as you are for the PD tech, which is definitely worth it. I have an old 16,000 Mah power bank and it literally takes 12+ hrs to charge over microUSB. This can charge much faster and also charge laptops. It would be nice if they offered it without the charger though.

  • @bpford
    @bpford 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for reviewing this! It makes my decision a lot easier now

  • @93NJD
    @93NJD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I already ordered this power-bank and started doubting my choice when I read that it stopped working for a few after 8-10 months. This review kind of eased my mind a bit but let’s see how it actually turns out after a few months of use.

  • @danpanther
    @danpanther 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, great pace and didn’t get boring… excellent!

  • @homeape.
    @homeape. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    don't really understand most of the video
    1) you mention the battery charge, but not the voltage. i don't care about the battery charge, i need energy to power my phone and laptop
    2) the battery does pd for output and input? isn't that the reason why it's more expensive? sure you can get a pd charger for cheap, but it needs a battery to actually accept high power
    3) speaking of power. what is the power of the charger? 20W? 30W?
    4) and how fast does it charge other devices? on what ports?
    i'm just mostly confused after this video.

  • @Eliecerhdz
    @Eliecerhdz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good diction, clear ideas. Good start. Subscribed!

  • @dariens007
    @dariens007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    really great review i like your style so i subbed. suggestion? it would have been nice if you had used a usb power monitor and covered how it was outputting the power and stuff and charging devices. i really like how you explained why it is priced the price it is, and why it is the size it is so that you can go on an airplane. i really didn't know that! can you tell i've never been on a plane?

  • @dinkod12
    @dinkod12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought one went on sale 67.99 today 12/1 and really good review. I appreciate you mentioning the actual from the stated capacity.

    • @TheAmericanPlug
      @TheAmericanPlug 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're $59 now 🤫

    • @justsomemincedgarlic
      @justsomemincedgarlic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any idea what it actually does when you hold the button and one of the leds turns green? If you click the power button it lights up, but if you hold it a green light comes on and idk what the hell it means.

    • @stellagyan6593
      @stellagyan6593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi I want to buy the power bank for my iPhone plus android. do you know which cables I need to buy along with it?

  • @SamuelSorto
    @SamuelSorto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your description states it's a 30 Watt Charger but looking at the one I got it came with a 60 Watt charger.

    • @SamuelSorto
      @SamuelSorto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correction. Just looked at Amazon. I ordered this one which is a 60 W www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XRJZXKY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

  • @christopherdata72
    @christopherdata72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the review.you deserve to make more subscribers....

  • @leesurpa544hart2
    @leesurpa544hart2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish anchor would release one with three USB-C ports that’s capable up to 60 W in and out charging

  • @lavendercloud09
    @lavendercloud09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good luck with your channel. So professional and informative. Subscribed :)

  • @battery_wattage
    @battery_wattage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Air travel battery limitations are based on Watt hours, not mAh.

  • @orlandofarias2575
    @orlandofarias2575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I just buy any wall charger ? I bought the anker by its self but I didn't know it doesn't come with a charger. Wish I seen this before I bought it

    • @davidkennedy4339
      @davidkennedy4339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i was also confused too but from what i understand after having done a bit of research, the anker wall charger originally included with the power bank is a 60 watt, so you would need a 60W type c wall charger with power delivery (pd) to get the best results and the fastest charging time... anything less and it will be a much slower charge.

  • @LukePighetti
    @LukePighetti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a question that no one seems to have answered: Can you charge this with a regular USB-A cable & charger, and does it include the cable you need to achieve this?

    • @jjlritchie
      @jjlritchie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It comes with a type c to type c cable. You'll have to provide your own type a to type c cable to charge this power bank with a different charging brick.

  • @muslimtommyshelby2624
    @muslimtommyshelby2624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Subed because your hard work deserves more credit!!!

  • @ahmedshawky8814
    @ahmedshawky8814 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to ask about the real capacity of it.
    It give me not more than 20K with my phone.
    Is there a problem?

  • @donniecatalano
    @donniecatalano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video quality, thanks

  • @rainnoddy7956
    @rainnoddy7956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no problem if i charge my phone in the type C port? Because the output of the port type C is 45W,,thank you

  • @nycboxing8359
    @nycboxing8359 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    MacBook Air cube will not charge my power Ankor power core 6800 …. I am not sure if newer MacBook cubes would being that mine is couple of years old

  • @47crazed
    @47crazed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many watts is the adaptor? Can it Trickle charge small devices without shutting off?

  • @pulchraorarum2445
    @pulchraorarum2445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A key variable is the recharge time on these types of batteries. It would have been nice if you reported on that and also compared to other similar units.

  • @blessedbackpacker222
    @blessedbackpacker222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you missed on very important features related to power banks.
    1. how much time it takes to full charge via different rated wall adapters?
    2. what is the output rating? time difference in wall charging mobile phones vs charging from power bank.

  • @beckycastillo1411
    @beckycastillo1411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why doesn't Anker made a charger, that works with regular batteries, like if there no electricity in house you will always have a working cell phone, as long as you have batteries. Like when some Texas places didn't have electricity and you couldn't change your phone. This would help so much.🙂🤔

  • @gmoney125
    @gmoney125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great demonstration!!

  • @jacobcollins6068
    @jacobcollins6068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I charge it from a 240v socket in Australia?

  • @Dfm_Sushil
    @Dfm_Sushil 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This size power bank allowed no airplane...??

  • @superDog3576
    @superDog3576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you review the Powerbank of Anker Powercore PD 45W and wall charge 60w?

    • @MOTM1234
      @MOTM1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is that....

    • @superDog3576
      @superDog3576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MOTM1234 No

    • @superDog3576
      @superDog3576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's Anker PowerCore + 26800mha 30w

    • @MOTM1234
      @MOTM1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      mahakit paiboongasemsutti ahh, you are correct. So I just bought the 45w/60w for my MacBook Air 2019. So far no complaints but ask me again in a month.

  • @HonestReviewsChannel
    @HonestReviewsChannel  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UPDATE: Anker has released a newer version of this power bank with higher wattage power delivery and a higher wattage wall charger: amzn.to/36vnF5i

    • @wSultan
      @wSultan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link is not working !! Product type please!! Thanks awesome review.

  • @fimp2295
    @fimp2295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! Subscribed

  • @sundown1355
    @sundown1355 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review, very helpful.
    Can power banks be charged using a car charger?

  • @stevenp.sparks2953
    @stevenp.sparks2953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2:17, she says USB-C three times in a row, which doesn't make sense regarding the statement that she's making. What am I missing? Anyone??? TIA, Sparks

  • @oculuzz1449
    @oculuzz1449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You deserve more subs. The only advice I have is maybe a little less hand movements. Good job nonetheless

  • @SynthGrooves
    @SynthGrooves 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just subbed awesome job have one of them its a very good powerbank!!!

  • @georgeb5835
    @georgeb5835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do all companies lie about the total max mah? Why is that allowed?

  • @Cyskulls11
    @Cyskulls11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m assuming USB c port is Input only?

  • @nickchlebeck
    @nickchlebeck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use the atom charger to plug directly into my laptop?

  • @lemarjohnston688
    @lemarjohnston688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your haircut!

  • @denjoker7496
    @denjoker7496 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can I check which is better Anker or Aukey pb-xd26, both with 26,800 mah .

  • @Edson1135
    @Edson1135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this one be used for the Nintendo Switch?

  • @SailorChristian
    @SailorChristian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it charge the Nintendo Switch while playing on portable?

  • @amshajchicku9038
    @amshajchicku9038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you check the real capacity of this Device

  • @PianoTopia
    @PianoTopia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    86% means that the battery is 26800 mah and the loss you have when changing the voltage from 3.6 to 5 to charge your phone
    So the battery is perfect and the loss of the borad is amazing
    It can go to 70% and it's still ok but higher is better

  • @JawadAhmadsahibzada
    @JawadAhmadsahibzada 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    charger wattage ? max amps output ?

  • @evygil
    @evygil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does it work with iphone12?

  • @aabidhussaindar8034
    @aabidhussaindar8034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it doing wireless charging

  • @UltrafiAV
    @UltrafiAV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    86% of rated capacity is rather disappointing. I'd expect to get 100% of the capacity that it's rated at.

    • @austinanthony4016
      @austinanthony4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      seems you don't understand how batteries work, especially when they have to be stored for prolonged periods of time after production.

    • @UltrafiAV
      @UltrafiAV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@austinanthony4016 how about providing a useful comment.

    • @austinanthony4016
      @austinanthony4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltrafiAV speak for yourself. any moron knows that a lithium ion battery stored with charge over time will lose overall capacity.
      assuming a stored lithium ion battery will retain 100% goes against the reality of battery tech itself.
      Want closer to 100%? go to the fucking factory and grab one off the line as soon as it's made.
      it's called TIME used in production, warehouse storage, and distribution...by the time a battery gets to you it will usually be closer to 90% of its rated capacity so 86% is not bad. anyone but a dumbass knows this.
      considering this battery floats at a higher price range, it stands to reason they spend more time sitting on a warehouse shelf before being shipped.

    • @UltrafiAV
      @UltrafiAV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@austinanthony4016 Well you appear to be any moron, since you seemed to know this!

    • @austinanthony4016
      @austinanthony4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltrafiAV cool story bro

  • @user-sv8cr9ox1t
    @user-sv8cr9ox1t 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi im getting this powerbank in my mail soon. However i ahve a Samsung note 20 Ultra and it has Type C on my phone. And i want to charge my phone with the Anker. The fastest way posible. However when it comes to cables.. im now confused. Some cables claim to be called 2.0A or 3.0A or 4.0A and so on... what does all this means? What number do i have to get for a 2foot cable ? Does it have to be a 3.0 or a 2.0 or something? There is cables on Ebay so confusing to what all this letter A means on the end of the numbers of all cables that are TYPE C cables... To charge my phone with this Anker the fastest way charging.. Does this mean it depends what type of (Type C) Cable i have to get? or does the cable have to be to correct one in order to charge the phone super fast with the anker ? Thats what i wish i want to know. Because i dont no if cables depends the quality or type numbers has to be in order to use real super fast charging from my Samsung phone which is TYPE C all the way to the Anker power bank. Unless just any kind of TYPE C cable will do or ? I just don't want to charge my phone slow. Its why i want to charge the phone super fast charging obviously. Thanks. P.S i do know that USB connections out there means slow charging on 2.0 and super fast charging on 3.0 or 3.1 USB but that not sure if they have a letter A on the end. Its why im confused with most cables today.

    • @instanding9528
      @instanding9528 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea so ur s20 ultra will charge fully in 15 seconds

  • @BrandonTramel
    @BrandonTramel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mine only came with 1 wire, got it from best buy

  • @TikTok_979
    @TikTok_979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love ur hair♥️

  • @NOOBIFIER1337
    @NOOBIFIER1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job!

  • @HarryPottard
    @HarryPottard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In europe, they sell it for 122 euros, except The wall adapter isnt included -.-

  • @moxi3209
    @moxi3209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now for only 50 Euros. How fast it went cheaper. I am still waiting also for a 1TB microSD to get cheaper since 400GB costs around 50-80 Euros. Then I might have the ultimate Switch on the go. XD

    • @shadeshiest22
      @shadeshiest22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do know you can delete and DL ANY GAME you’ve already previously purchased on the Eshop right?? Honestly never found the need for an SDcard over 128G and have around 80+Switch games... There’s just no need

  • @too2mkoo2
    @too2mkoo2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought first one the same and it is not work at all so I did contact to Anker and after duscution they did send me another one and guess what the second one as well not work seems as the same problem as the first one,NO MORE ANKER BATTERY in my life!!

  • @aviationnationhd3760
    @aviationnationhd3760 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your not comparing the wall plug mAH
    Or Wh to the switch and others.

  • @mayuri2038
    @mayuri2038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruh I didn't get that fast charger 3.0 when I bought mine

  • @teboholebakeng377
    @teboholebakeng377 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn't really address what the PD stands for and why it makes it this powerbank more expensive than the alternative powerbanks of a similar capacity. I don't think the explanation you gave was accurate. It's about how much it can actually output. You can charge a small laptop with this.

    • @TECH-PRO
      @TECH-PRO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Power delivery

  • @datyunggeric9509
    @datyunggeric9509 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got it for like $37 on amazon yesterday

  • @tarandeepgill
    @tarandeepgill 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it available in India ?

  • @davidfgranger
    @davidfgranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's really not that heavy for the capacity; 100wh of litihum-ion batteries weighs 450g, it's more likely that lighter competitors are lying about their capacities.

  • @francinemaeandatuan2623
    @francinemaeandatuan2623 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What made is this

  • @rvroutdoors2131
    @rvroutdoors2131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “It’s a nice quality Fur Shur” lol that’s Millennial-ese for “For sure”

  • @johnpaulalino5826
    @johnpaulalino5826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I charge this with my samsung fast charger but overnight it charge only 1 lights. My friend has also the same with me and samsung charger works with it very well. 8 hours full charge but mine overnight 1 light only. Pls someone help me

    • @davidkennedy4339
      @davidkennedy4339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you need a 60w type c wall charger with power delivery (pd).

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please give her more views and subs

  • @itzchriz2704
    @itzchriz2704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got the whole set in best buy for 80$

  • @He.wrote.danger
    @He.wrote.danger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know if this powerbank will super fast charge a galaxy note 10+

    • @justsomemincedgarlic
      @justsomemincedgarlic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      BizarreGaming oh yeah it will. The only thing ive tried that it doesn’t fast charge is my oneplus 7 pro. Oneplus doesn’t use the regular quick charge like samsung though so apple, samsung, lg and the like will all fast charge.

  • @kanibis420
    @kanibis420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    special deal Today $37 on Amazon

  • @muhammadzahid8452
    @muhammadzahid8452 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Very Good Review keppitup

  • @zaintdalman4094
    @zaintdalman4094 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My target since last month..

  • @elusivelectron
    @elusivelectron 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just picked it up through Target for $75 including tax.

  • @senenabila6619
    @senenabila6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one

  • @jamskof
    @jamskof 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "this one has usb-c power delivery which is faster than usb-c" did you really just say that? i got absolutely nothing from this video. useless. this is NOT. a review, its an unboxing, you gave no real world stats, no real worls usage information.

  • @bobkinect5254
    @bobkinect5254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks good and it might be the best battery, but it’s 100 dollars..

    • @Dresler567
      @Dresler567 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about Mi power bank pro 3?

  • @DiZZiEntertainment
    @DiZZiEntertainment 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you not have more subscribers?

  • @linglingbopper635
    @linglingbopper635 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The kit ain’t worth it got a bunch of blocks laying around

  • @menamena97
    @menamena97 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @hamitaur1505
    @hamitaur1505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhh...so thats the reason why they are 26800? ....ohhh

  • @jjlritchie
    @jjlritchie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a mediocre review. A proper review would include a test of charging output of this while connected to various devices to see if it can infact achieve the claimed power output.

    • @gookymofo
      @gookymofo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She has a target audience of people that don’t want the nitty gritty details. She sums it up really well without losing the viewer to mundane details that they wouldn’t know about. Lots of great choices to choose from.

  • @mrtistrm
    @mrtistrm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have give u a thumbs up, but u deliver nothing new I can't find on the net.

  • @shaun9286
    @shaun9286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do not buy their anker iq charger. Less than 2 months i use it gone blown up. Expensive yet lousy quality.

  • @skyhawk21
    @skyhawk21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How was this a honest review you did not test, power on or plug any devices into the powerbank and show any numbers... try again!!

  • @jamskof
    @jamskof 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "overall it is a good product" based on what? its "hefty" wow lady, blowing me away with your tech knowlege here

  • @Bollywood86138
    @Bollywood86138 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor powerbank after 2 month totally dead

    • @HonestReviewsChannel
      @HonestReviewsChannel  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gur Jot they have an 18 month warranty. You can get a replacement.

  • @j5892000
    @j5892000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pd uses usb c lol... usb c is just the connector type. Lol

  • @ven4202
    @ven4202 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol i got this for 50€

  • @AlexMkd1984
    @AlexMkd1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nothing honest from liar

  • @Mashruz
    @Mashruz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are so beautiful, if only you weren't that Tom boyish type! 🤣🤣

    • @marteumar8429
      @marteumar8429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mashruz she wouldn’t fuck you anyways so...

    • @ivonahumpalot538
      @ivonahumpalot538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marteumar8429 jajaja

  • @georgeb5835
    @georgeb5835 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do all companies lie about the total max mah? Why is that allowed?