Everything Wrong With Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2016
- Oh sh*t! We left dead-Spock on that planet that generates life! We'd better go back and get him, no? Here are all the sins we found in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock.
Next week: punching happens.
Remember, no movie is without sin! Which movie's sins should we expose next?!
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Why avoid this movie? It is one of the most underrated of the trek movies. Nimoy did a magnificent job directing.
And Shatner is really on point in this one
Yeah, just saw today- didn’t knew much about it! I liked it a lot- just thought special effects could’ve been bit better.
It was good, but parts of it lagged, like the bar scene and after Kruge beamed down to the planet. It felt slow paced and bloated with 'empty' shots
Watched it for the first time yesterday and I loved it
I love 2, 3 and 4 together for a trek marathon
Destruction code zero, zero, zero...
Hey that's the same combination I use on my luggage!
lol
What? The code's zero zero zero? That sounds like something an idiot would have on his luggage...
It's also (all) the same codes used for the destruct sequence on the original TV show (Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, IIRC).
So now I just need to intercept you at an airport and steal your luggage from the carousel...... or plant contraband..... God, I've become Karen Walker
I know, right? It's just like using "username" for your USERNAME and "password" for your PASSWORD!!! 😂😂😂
5:11 Sulu: "It was a boring conversation anyway......KIRK! WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMPANY!!!!!!"
Rofl.
lol
I may be in the minority with this opinion, but personally I feel "Klingon bastard, you've KILLED MY SON!" was Kirk's greatest line, not "KHANNNNN!" from II. The way he delivers the line in this film, coupled with the crew's reactions, gets me every time.
Definitely. It's a far superior line. The "Khaaaan!" thing was nothing.. I wouldn't even think of it if making a 100 greatest Kirk lines.
Human... acting that could bring a tear to even a a Vucan eye
"Behind every revolution there is one man with a vision," is probably Kirk's best line.
@@sandal_thong8631 Perfectly accented by the music, too. Not sure I'd make it no. 1. Certainly in the top three.
@@betaneptune Same. I think of Khaaaan as No.1, but this is a close second cause of the emotion it means.
missed a sin....when a Klingon flew over the captain's chair and landed on the floor, a arm is seen trying to catch the stunt man
watch for it at 9:39
+Higinio Cordova hahahahhahaha thank you so much
Maybe he just counted that with the entire scene
More likely show him where to land. If you look, it seems more like the arm is directing him.
It's someone trying to keep the actor from hitting the camera.
Not only was that Klingon ship owned by Doc Brown, but in the next movie it travels through time. "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits warp 8.8, you're gonna see some serious shit."
A son is a son. The duration of knowing them first hand is hardly the primary factor in the feelings involved. He’s known he’s had a son since he was born. He just stayed away. And now he’s just getting to know him, and he’s been killed. His reaction is pretty spot on.
Spot on.
Yes, I'm not sure how a father expressing grief at the murder of his son is sin worthy.
It’s sin worthy because it’s in the nature of the channel and the narrator to be as nitpicky and irritating as possible without the slightest regard for sensitivity. Like the most sarcastic nitpicker would be.
You sinned Scotty's velvet at 5:40, but I think Chekov's Little Dutch Boy outfit is at least equally sin-worthy.
The Ship is *not* easy to run with six people. They specifically state that it's a ball ache and relies on scotty being a fucking genius and automating most of the ship, but limiting the ship to flying it about.
Most of that crew of 430 is scientists. Takes a few engineers and a pilot to fly, but you're gonna need specialists to science all that space shit.
Unlike the Black Pearl, which, as a water type ship, is easy to control with six people.
Kirk, hooked up with a female in the OS contemplated moving on with the ship and only had 2 people. He claimed enough food to last a lifetime and the like with no special automation. This was 1701 straight up.
No, they definitely couldn't fire more torpedoes. You'll remember from Star Trek II - the torpedo bays required whole crews to man them, as you would expect. So once the torpedoes were shot, there were no more crews to reload them. The second of the two launchers was already destroyed, so those two torpedoes were it, even if there were piles of other torpedoes stacked in the bay.
Capital ships like that are like battleships or aircraft carriers. They aren't really run by computers. They're run by people. Aircraft carriers have crews of 2,000 people because when the captain on the bridge gives an order, whole teams of people have to go to work to make the ship speed up, slow down, turn, launch aircraft, anything. I'm sure the same is true for Enterprise. I'm surprised the ship's computers could even get the goddamn thing to fly without crews. No wonder as soon as the ship had to enter battle that the computer overloaded. And so with perfectly functional weapons and shield generators, with no crews to operate them, the ship was a sitting duck.
Scotty does say, later in this movie, that when he did all the automation, he didn't expect to take her into battle.
To be fair, "Amok Time" makes it clear charging into complex Vulcan religious ceremonies without bothering to ask anything about what they entail is Kirk's standard operating procedure.
julietvalcouer (I know this is a reaaaally late reply to your comment but:) I mean not really. Spock specifically asked him and McCoy to be there, and Kirk double checked with Spock that it was ok before agreeing to go
I think he means how kirk agreed to be the womans chosen challenger without knowing what it entailed.
Some people say Vulcans don't have emotions, but I don't think that's true. They have prejudice against Earthers and half-human/half-Vulcan people. That's what "Amok Time" was really about and why Spock joined Star Fleet to get away from those people at the Vulcan Science Academy and why he wasn't on the all-Vulcan ship that got eaten by the space amoeba.
@@sandal_thong8631The Vulcans that say it are liars.
Vulcans suppress their emotions, but they do have them.
5:08 Im so pleased to know that Star Trek and Doctor Who share the universe because Sulu is using a Sonic Screwdriver.
They meet in a limited series too!
And I'm sinning the fact that, despite referencing two future Star Trek movies in this film, he has yet to do a CinemaSins review of said movies *ding*
Just saw #4 sins this week.
9:39 you can see camera assistance hands trying to stop the stunt Klingon from hitting the lens.
LMAO
I had to slow the video down but did see it, too funny.
What a spock! Err, I mean spot!
shh, it's just debris in the shape of a hand.
LOL!! He totally did!! I never noticed that before!! Thank you!!
You had me until #90. Kirk had simply heard Kruge use the same phrase a few minutes earlier and hoped that by repeating it he and Spock would be transported up.
Erroneous sin: at ~6:28, when Scotty keeps the parts from Excelsior to show them to Bones, that is EXACTLY what a guy like Scotty does. This is speaking as a guy that builds lifesaving robots for a living and does what Scotty did with alarming frequency.
Mechanical dude doesn't know how a relay works? Cool, I'll get a spare, smash it open with a hammer and show him. Spare parts from a reverse-engineering job? Dude, check THIS stuff out. Mechanical dude doesn't quite get how much energy is in a 480 feed? AWESOME, hold my beer.
Exactly. I have photos of assemblies removed from downed CH-47 helicopters. The parts were too big to stick in my pocket, so photos had to do.
Well, he was hardly likely to leave them on a panel, where a trainee could find them and ask "aren't these supposed to be in the engine somewhere?"
actually, after she took care of 'mr in the closet', uhura was busy hacking the starbase doors, and then afterwards, sprinting like usain bolt to the starbase's vulcan embassy, to tell sarek that kirk is hijacking the ship to go find spock. (sarek then gives uhura diplomatic protection, which is why she was on Vulcan ahead of them.)
so thats how she got there
I like to believe she was using the transporter to prevent people from beaming aboard the Enterprise.
Scotty hacked the doors - probably knew some admin-level overrides.
Uhura was jamming communications so Starfleet couldn't scramble any immediate pursuit other than Excelsior. Then, yes, she beams herself to the city and runs to the Vulcan Embassy.
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The missed sin is "why didn't Sarek just pull diplomatic strings, cite cultural/medical emergency and ask the Federation President to order Starfleet to put McCoy on a fast ship to Vulcan, picking up Spock's body from Esteban on the way?" That way, the Federation could keep Kirk on Earth to hang him out to dry in the developing international relations crisis.
Sin 79: The reason the codes were still valid was because the Enterprise had not gone through a formal decommissioning and was most likely stored. Also, Scotty was onboard for some time before they legged it so he could have restored computer control
Also screwing with the Space Dock doors could have left a much needed Star Ship trapped in case of emergency.
Not wanting to risk what could be planets.
Why am I writing this.
I need to beat the shit out of JJ.
+ramairgto72 Join the club. I've wanted his head on a pike since he screwed up Khan in Into Darkness.
There can only be one Khan Noonien Singh, and it is not that Sherlock Holmes wannabe!
What else did you expect from a Roddenberry wannabe? Instead of renewing the franchise for the newer generations, he decided to make more money out of taking a huge dump into Gene's legacy.
+cartermariano Gene would have taken a huge dump on it if it earned him another $2.00. Did you ever see the Next Generation? Did you notice how shitty it was until Roddenberry passed away? Ill grant you he created something unique but you're an idiot if you think he did it for anything other than money. ... and space babes! Visionary... huh! Take another look at First Contact and watch Cochran's response to all the hero worship. That was symbolic of Gene Roddenberry.
I think we all can agree ST needed something new..
However you don't just toss the entire thing out and start over. Anyone who loves ST or has an IQ above shoe size can see JJ was not a fan, did not think of ST the way most everyone would, and treated it like he was remaking a Godzilla movie.
If you knew nothing about ST and watched JJs movies, you just mike like them, and this is where our issues are.
With so much of a canvas in the ST universe it's criminal JJ did this, even if the story was bad, but kept to the time line, it would have been accepted by just about everyone New and Old to ST.
You bring up that Doc Brown is a Klingon, but forget that Dan from night court is also a Klingon
Captain von Trapp is also a Klingon
Bring us the whales dammit!
Cyberman King you'll never change the entire human race Cyberman.
FWIW, for all its good points, doing a Sins of Star Trek-IV would be like shooting fish at the bottom of a dry bucket with a double-barrel shotgun at point blank range!
Ben Russell-Gough tell us how you reeeeaaaaallllly feel about Star Trek IV :D
Cyberman King I will NOT be upgraded!
"Why does any starship go out with a crew of hundreds if they're this easy to run with six people?!"
First of all, a lot of ship personnel is not tasked with flying or maintaining the ship but other tasks like research.
Second, a ship may run with six people for a couple of days, but not for much longer unless maintenance routines are followed that require more personnel. In short, you can steal a ship with six people, but it won't work very long.
And it didn't.
And you can't take it into combat . . .
Waiting for...
EWW Apollo 13
EWW Saving Private Ryan
EWW Air Force One
EWW Rear Window
EWW The Exorcist
EWW Indiana Jones Movies
EWW Captain Philips
EWW The Lego Movie
EWW Zero Dark Thirty
EWW Fury
EWW Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
EWW The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
He doesn't seem to do war movies.
+Jackson Larson *they
You forgot EWW Deadpool
+Ondřej Saska No, he
Peridusk There's two of them.
Star Trek III is wildly under rated. It has some of the most memorable dialogue, sequences, and it introduced the Incredible Klingon Bird of Prey. The rough idea of the ship was created by none other than director Leonard Nimoy, with Industrial Light and Magic creating the final model. I consider the BOP second only to the Millenium Falcon in terms of coolest spaceship evef.
I've always liked the scene where the Enterprise comes into the space dock, battle damage visible for all to see, and the Star Fleet personnel just watch in silence....
@@wilmanric2277 They didn't want to give Grace Lee Whitney any lines.
@@sandal_thong8631 For that scene, she didn't need any. Her face said it all.
Still, it's quite funny that the flashback episode from Voyager gave her more lines than all the movies combined.
We're still waiting on those whales
Still!!! It’s been 4 years!
Here is a big plot hole. This isn't the search for Spock, this is the search for Spock's corpse. One thing the audience forgets is the fact that, as far as everyone else is concerned Spock is dead. And until very near the end they have no reason to doubt that. The only people who are aware that Spock has been revived by Genesis is the Captain of the Reliant, who doesn't get a message to Starfleet, Saavik and David. As far as everyone else is concerned they are, for some odd reason being sent to get Spock's corpse to help McCoy who is suffering from a Vulcan mindmeld. No one has any reason to think Spock is alive. People often cite this movie as evidence of how much Kirk cares for Spock but this isn't about Spock. This is about McCoy. Kirk is trying to help McCoy. He then layer finds out Spock is alive. Because we, the audience, know Spock is alive from the start we often forget Kirk doesn't know this. I myself didn't realize this until recently.
Side note - wouldn't it have been awesome if they had rescued a child Spock. And then put his essence back into this little boy. So you have this little kid with the knowledge of a grown up Spock. :-D
You mean USS GRISSOM of course
yes, when he tells Spock "The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many", he was talking about McCoy.
Search for Spock could be the search for physical Spock or the Spock in all of us...
or they could have slammed the engines in reverse at warp speed going back in time to prevent things from happening! Maybe someone is doing that to us! thats why you avoid accidents and win money
Nah, the last thing Trek needs is a snot-nosed know-it-all kid. Just ask Wil Wheaton...
Can't believe you didn't have the clip of the self destruct sequence overdubbed with the audio from Spaceballs of Dark Helmet saying "The combination is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5."
"sounds like something an idiot would put on his luggage"
"1 2 3 4 5? That's the combination to my luggage!!"
"That's the same combination on my luggage!"
luggage
Christopher Lloyd actually makes this movie. Incredible performance, and one of my favorites of the entire franchise!
For the bloopers in the end when Kurk kicks Kruge off the cliff ... I was totally expecting the Marty "Noooo Bastard" sound clip
The Excelsior experiment didn't work. In The Undiscovered Country, it had a regular warp drive instead of a trans warp drive.
And a completely different Bridge module,,,see also STV 'FLASHBACK''
By 2410 they figured it out. My Arbiter in StarTrek Online can bust out warp 35 when I kick in the booster XD
There’s a fan theory that Transwarp DID work and that’s why we have a different warp curve in TNG.
And assigned to studying gaseous Anomolies...exciting. Sulu did a great job though.
No, it did. It just doesn't get installed until Tuesday.😉
So basically this movie's got 99 problems.
Cuz a Klingon killed one!
+ladenswallow09 Literally laughed out loud! thank you :D
...But Spock ain't one.
99 sins but Star Trek ain't one of them
spoiler alert
Missed one: 2:15 there's 23 crewmen present. As the Enterprise has a crew of 400 the Admiral needs to do his speech 17 times (while trying to put a different spin on it every time). Sure, he could have just used the ship's intercom to tell everyone at once but I guess he's just a people person! :)
Also, at 6:29 we can see the first and only time in Star Trek history that James Doohan is missing the middle finger on his right hand. Lost it during the Allies counter-attack in Normandy against Nazis. I make that -50 sins just out of respect!
Actually, there's a brief shot of his missing finger in the TOS episode "The Enemy Within", the scene where picks up the "bad" dog to put next to the "good" dog on the transporter pad, to fuse the two back together.
Requires a bit a freeze-framing in order to see it, though.
Do they normally give him a fake finger, or just position the camera so you never see it?
tech6hutch Usually the latter.
Chozo Hunter
I somehow didn't see your first comment before I wrote mine. It doesn't matter, though.
Alpha Legion Astartes, skeletal crew just to get the ship home.
The microbes grew to such a large state in their development, because of the proto-matter in the genesis matrix.
Also, no mention of John Larroquette who played Maltz? Really?
Maltz! Choie- Chu!
"You promised you would kill me!"
"I lied."
Maltz: “You said you would kill me.”
Kirk: “I lied.”
Maltz: “But Jim... I’ve got a date with a blonde AND a redhead!”
I can't believe that "Don't call me Tiny," didn't get a sin knocked off the counter. ;)
this is a racist film the two black guys are portrayed in a bad light and when you get to part 6 cartwright was also a traitor just saying I love this film and when this guy takes it down its very hurtful movie sin bastard you killed my movie
That and "You said you were going to kill me" "I lied."
4:21 "These *were* microbes on the tube's surface." Then the Genesis Effect got to them, and they evolved/mutated/grew at a rapid rate. You could still sin the fact that they seem to not have wanted to move from the original pod, but... If you're going to sin, at least do it for the right reasons.
it also set a bit of a precedent for boy Spock growing at a rapid rate.. although even that is a bit off since Spock didn't seem to mutate.. he grew to his normal size.. these once microbial critters grew to many times their original size.
Everything Wrong with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
The sin counter would probably break on that one
+Will Mitchell Especially with the 'Martha scene'
+The Spirit of Classical Music (TSCM) i heard it was so bad i didnt even bother whatching it
+MR.UMAG This comment doesn't make any sense. (That is unless you're not a troll.)
i loved that movie
The level and masterful delivery of both sardonic humor and sarcasm in the reviews has quickly made CinemaSins one of my favorite TH-cam channels! :D
You still have to admit, the whole stealing the goddamn Enterprise sequence is one of the most bad-ass hijacking/escapes ever. Suck it, Star Wars.
Some of my favorite James Horner music. I love that scene
Especially suck it Disney.
When he gets to the next generation movies they'll be quite long episodes.
The one for Nemesis particularly.
First Contact should be safe though, right?
First Contact is a good movie but it's full of sins. Time travel lends itself to sins.
Also The Final Frontier
***** Yeah, how did they get back anyway?
I'm surprised there's no sin for the implied off-screen action between Saavik and Spock during the latter's pon farr.
It wasn't implied. We saw it.
Where the hell is the one for THE WHALES! You mentioned it!
You got your wish granted today!🤣
Also, the reason why the ship only needed a small team to run was because Scotty put in some sort of automation thing that makes it easy to control the entire ship
can people just shut up how early they are? no one cares.
I don't know, a lot of people get bothered if others come early.
first
Thats why I posted it
Last time I was this early, people were talking about the last time they were this early!
1085th!
Trekkies: We don't talk about the odd numbered movies......
first Notalgia Critic now Jeremey...
Then explain 4
I like star trek 3
Halocrafter101 what is to explain in 4? "A whale of a tale! It appears a probe is destroying the Earth in the hopes of finding the extinct humpback. Desperate to hammer in an animal rights commentary, the Enterprise goes back in time to see if they can find some. They’re told time travel is dangerous, despite the fact that they've done it a billion times before and will continue to do it a billion times after. Yarr, she blows!"
+Bernard Stephen Warchal
As do I. I put it WAY above Star Trek II: The Wrath of Paramount.
1:40 "Um, that experiment works" The line wasn't about the ship, it was about the experimental Transwarp drive that was removed shortly after because it didn't work yet. And even when it did, Tom Paris proved that it isn't a good idea.
Except Voyager misused the term "transwarp". They just picked out a technobabble term without realizing it should mean something else other than just achieving warp 10. An artificial wormhole like the one at DS9, or the Borg's own transwarp conduits, would be examples of transwarp.
6:57 Captain Buford won the most cautious captain award a second and a third time before finally retiring on Risa to live happily ever after, surrounded by hot alien ladies and a wonderful risarian landscape.
I can't wait to see the sin count on Star Trek V
If it doesn't start with "This movie was made, DING!", I'll be very disappointed.
"Directed by William Shatner"
*DING!*
AreTheyGay "Screenplay by William Shatner" enough **DING!** to give poor Jeremy carpal tunnel syndrome.
Star Trek V might give 'The Room' a run for its money.
Honestly, I think the counter would break.
he had this crazy idea about breeding pine trees
I WAS FROZEN TODAY
I FUCK PINE TREES!
Oh perfect, now I want to do a Google search for "pine tree porn".
As I write this, I only discovered Cinema Sins yesterday. Oh, how much better is my existence now! Thank you, Cinema Sins, for now I know what I was missing. GENIUS!
It's been long enough. BRING. US WHALE. SINS.
20 years isnt bad for a ship. we got nuclear carriers older than that.
Yeah, but the future as shown in Star Trek is supposed to be BETTER than our crappy old present. The reason we have ships that old still in service is because our bloated, idiotic government can't be bothered to invent better technology.
+Christoph TSS you do understand that governments don't develop technology. Actual companies do.
Steven Juris Okay yeah, that was just me getting frustrated. What I meant to say is that even though a lot of improvements _already_ exist, the government refuses to use them.
Well, kind of. Particularly in the defense sector, the government frequently has to provide funding for projects during the development phase because otherwise companies would be unwilling to risk spending *billions* to design something that might not get bought.
They just limped back to Earth after the ship got badly chewed up fighting Khan. Since the new Excelsior-class was going into production, Starfleet likely didn't see much point to repairing the Enterprise, which by that point was already being used as a *training* ship.
at 1:55, you should change that sin to the Enterprise being 40 years old. Commissioned 2245 and this is 2285. The ship is 20 years old in 2265 when Kirk goes on the 5 year mission
20 points if you can name the first captain...
Robert April
Ding Ding Ding: We have a winner!
Robert April. Yay! Free points!
ben ::: NERRRRRD
Another sin would be that when Spock's dad asked permission to do the fal-tor-pan, the woman replied with "that hasn't been done for ages past, and even then still legend"...so was it a legend because it hadn't been done for a long time? and even then why can't they do it? shouldn't someone have handed down the instructions for how to do it?
But it sure looked like they were ready to execute as soon as the crew walked in.
Judging from his comments in this video, I have a suspicion that Jeremy likes ravioli.
The Enterprise is actually 40 years old at this point.
No, it's not. Pre-refit doesn't count as it's almost an entirely new ship after her refit for the Motion Picture.
Actually, it's not built yet as this shit takes place in the future.
Not after they destroyed it a million times and have to go through all the letters of the alphabet renaming it.
All the ships with a letter suffix after the original refit Enterprise are completely different ships. Even the 1701-A wasn't a rebuilt Enterprise, it was an entirely new ship. Any ships after that weren't even the same class of ship, going from Excelsior Class, to Ambassador Class, Galaxy Class, Sovereign Class.
Wait... "at this point"? it would be -200 or so. What time zone are you in?
Please do "Everything Wrong With The 1998 Movie Small Soldiers"
how dare you insinuate that movie was anything but a flawless masterpiece.
I know it was awesome, but if you re-watch it there are some funny mistakes!
I watched the Nostalgia Critic video on that recently lol, so messed up
THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT MOVIE
Oh shit they brought Queens into this sin+1
Oh shit They brought Edwin Star in this +3
-1 sin for the intense score and acting while Kirk and crew steal the Enterprise. The high pitched, “all hands on deck” orchestral ensemble as the ship approaches the still closed doors, followed by great non-verbal acting by Doohan as Sulu says “We have cleared space doors”, as if to say “See motherfuckers I told you I had this!”, followed immediately by intense, deep baroque orchestral music as they pull through the doors. Goddamn, what a scene! RIP James Horner.
Maybe someone else said so below, but I'm really surprised there was no comment about John Larroquette playing Maltz
Someone said there was that Night Court guy.
You should have taken off a few sins for the Vulcan babes naked under ceremonial gause fabric.
Smokey McJoint True... and no lap dance either.
People like you are weird. Who answers their own comment?
Warsrecker There was a comment I replied to that has been removed. 'Show comments removed as span' might help you a bit.
captcorajus That is the privilege of the initial commentator. That would be you. You are the only one who can see it. When you mark it as "not Spam" I could see it too :)
that's why he was turned on
One sin I've always noticed -- the priestess says the 'refusion' hasn't been done in ages and is mere legend. But Sarek chastises Kirk earlier in the movie like they do this all the time and he effed up a routine ritual, instead of the longshot hail mary it actually is.
I think he meant that Vulcan's transfer their Katra to others all the time (When they're dying). The purpose of that isn't necessarily reanimation, it's letting the deceased have a few last good-byes so that their loved-ones get some closure. Or at least, that's my take.
In the novelization it is said that the Katra is stored in a receptacle called a Vre'katra and taken to a special vault in the Vulcan temple called the "Hall of Ancient Thought" and preserved there for the rest of time. Or well, until the planet Vulcan is destroyed, like in ST 2009 - it was Vre'katra containing the greatest minds of Vulcan history that Sarek and the other Vulcans tried to save when Nero destroyed the planet.
The idea of Vre'katra is even brought back up in the novelization of Star Trek V, where Sybok illegally enters the hall and releases his mother's Katra hoping to join with it, but only causes her to die forever.
Still, if it isn't in the movies it's pretty much not canon.
+Faffy Waffle Actually, no. Sarek chastised Kirk for not bringing his Katra back home, not his body. Dark didn't know or suspect Spock was alive. He even said as much.
Why Kirk even went to Genesis makes no sense. Sarek only wanted Spock's katra & Kirk had McCoy already. Kirk had no idea Spock's body reanimated as Kruge jammed Grissom's communication. Grissom & the Klingon BoP should have all blown up with Genesis, all because Kirk & McCoy would have just booked passage with Sarek on his ship.
wow never thought of it that way, but you're dead on. zero reason for kirk to go back to genesis.
You forgot a nitpick; when that Starfleet bureaucrat said the Enterprise in 20 years old, it's actually 40 years old, according to Star Trek timeline canon.
20 years is nothing for a military vehicle. The United states Airforce still operate B-52's from the 50's. Even their front line fighters such as the F-15c are well over 20 years old and still going strong thanks to constant updates as the Enterprise would no doubt also receive.
Good point. Remove sin there. But add to the end of Star Trek IV for Starfleet building a whole new Enterprise (Constitution Class) using a design that must surely have been (in the very least) considered "obsolescing" -- hence a new Excelsior class. Did Starfleet really have the funding to keep cranking out 20+ year old designs, or would they have shifted resources to Excelsior class? Once America starting building the Pennsylvania class of battleships, for instance, we made no more of the Nevada class. Ditto for Pennsylvania class when superceded by New Mexico class; the New Mexico by the Tennessee class; the Tennessee by the Colorado; etc etc. I think, this being Cinema Sins, we've got to figure the "new" old-design Enterprise was simply Starfleet's award for saving the planet from the whale probe.
All throughout The Next Generation we see all sorts of old ships from the 23rd century that must be at least 100 years old. Of course the interior of the ships would be completely refitted with modern computers and weapons, which means there's no reason that they would decommission a ship. With all that happens to star fleet, you think they wouldn't be able to afford to decommission a ship.
Technically the admiral was wrong too. The Enterprise had been in service for 40 years, not 20. 20 years was the amount of time since Kirk first took command of the ship, but before that it had been commanded by Robert April and then Christopher Pike for years on end.
So basically the Admiral made a mistake and assumed the ship started its life with Kirk.
Yeah, I got the impression it was a 'not the years but the mileage' issue. The Enterprise was the last survivor of the first production block of Constitution-class starships and had been nearly destroyed so many times that it was becoming even money if the main engines would start up at the beginning of every flight or just blow up!
That said, though, I would have wanted to give Scotty those eight weeks to get the ship up to flight condition that he claimed was the most he needed. Not flyable in two months? Then she goes to the Starfleet Museum and he goes to the new Transwarp-prototype Enterprise (www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/uss-enterprise-nx-1701-a.php)
bowser515 the US may still use the b52 class of vehicles, but you falsley imply that they are still using b-52s that were built in the 50s. 20 years is definitely on the longer range of military vehicles as most have a lifespan of about 25-30 years. After 20 years it starts becoming harder to maintain the ship. And the world of Star Trek has shown up that having a 20 year old ship try to go up against enemies using more modern ships is a bad idea
My prediction for next week:
Bourne Supremacy and Bourne Ultimatum
I still LOVED "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock" in spite of its many cinematic flaws.
When the Excelsior's engines fail, it slows down. WTF? There's no friction, so nothing should slow it down apart from the engines firing in reverse.
But the security officers staring at the open door while the captain goes in unarmed is my favourite mistake.
4:32-
mmm unexplained alien space ravioli
Give us EWWs of:
Air Force One
Aladdin
Alice in Wonderland (1951)
Alvin and the Chipmunks (2007)
The Ant Bully
Antz
Apollo 13 (and 5 sins videos later, do the damned moon spiders)
Arthur and the Invisibles
Babe
Batman (1966)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Beetlejuice
Bolt
The Bourne Supremacy
The Boxtrolls
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Cars 2
Casablanca
The Cat in the Hat (I like it when you suffer)
Charlie's Angels
Chicken Run
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (or just call it "the first one" :P)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs
Coraline
Dances With Wolves
Die Hard 2
The Divergent Series: Allegiant
Doctor Who: The Movie (1996)
Dr. No
Epic (2013)
E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial
The Fast and the Furious (the first one)
Field of Dreams
Forrest Gump
Garfield: The Movie
Ghostbusters (1984)
Happy Feet
Honey, I Shrunk the Kids
Horton Hears a Who
Hotel Transylvania
How to Train Your Dragon 2
Hugo
Ice Age: The Meltdown
Kickassia
Kung Fu Panda 3
Last Action Hero
The Last of the Mohicans
The LEGO Movie
The Little Mermaid
The Lorax
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
March of the Penguins
Meet the Robinsons
Megamind
Men in Black
Minority Report
Monsters vs. Aliens
The Muppets (2011)
Night at the Museum
Ocean's Eleven (2001)
ParaNorman
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides
Planes
Ponyo
The Princess Bride
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Rio
Rise of the Guardians
Robots (2005)
Rocky
Shark Tale
Shaun the Sheep Movie
Shrek (dank memes)
Sleeping Beauty
Speed
Spirited Away
-Free Willy- Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Wars: The Clone Wars
The Sting
Suburban Knights
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III (I haven't actually seen it, I just hear it's awful)
To Boldly Flee
Toy Story 3
True Grit (2010)
Up
WarGames
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Wreck-It Ralph
Sorry about the page space, just have a ton of f*cking suggestions.
The cat is possibly going to take half an hour to sin.
The memes are worth at least 5 of Shrek's sins.
And there's also the sequel, Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2, and both Cloudy movies should get the Grinch treatment, considering that AniMat (whether you know him or not) really hates those two movies.
Big J the Gamer CITH is so awful it'll probably need two videos to sin. I've already come up with three sins for it:
The Cat is now able to extend his hat just for the sake of a boner joke. *ding* Also, the fact that there's a boner joke. *ding* Also, hat boners. *ding*
Benjamin Johnson Those three sins might be saved for a possible bonus round for all the inappropriate jokes in the movie.
Big J the Gamer I'm thinking the bonus round could instead be either terrifying imagery or Mike Meyer's pedo-Joker laughing.
I was going to say, that's a fuck ton of suggestions, but you said that you have a ton of fucking suggestions at the end of your comment. XD
Everything wrong with Cars 2!
sin worthy
I personally like both movies and like the second one better, but that is an EWW I really want to see though. I will not deny.
+futuremovieactor I just said that because generally, Cars 2 was kind of worse. I'm not gonna lie, I liked the movie a lot when I was younger.
It was made in the first place (ding!) It completely abandons what made the first film deeply emotional (a preening, cocky asshole learns to be humble and understand what's really important in life by helping others in a poor little town that was forgetten by the world) and trades it for a less-funny Austin Powers knock-off. Just. UGH. WHY, PIXAR? W H Y?!
+babserella2778 your way of saying things is just like cinema sins
Blown up by a surprise ship run by Doc Brown ... XD
Great Scott!!!
This may well be my favorite Everything Wrong With video, especially the after-the-video montage and appropriation of the most ironically appropriate audio clips I've ever seen.
Everything with Tron then Tron: Legacy
EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS!!!!
They need to wait until it comes out on dvd.
Here's a sin. It's a rip-off of Toy Story!
+Wade Wilson how else would they get the footage without doing the nostalgia critic thing of recreating the movie with a 2 cent budget.
WAY too early.
+Wade Wilson So it's easier for them. They can do it in their homes without distractions.
9:43 While you'd have to be a hardcore Trekkie to know this, the Enterprise A was not a ship built from the ground up. It was simply the USS Yorktown renamed the Enterprise A.
Right. But there were Constitution-class built from the ground up as refits. They were nicknamed 'Enterprise-class.' Same source.
Right, but the Enterprise destroyed in this movie isn't the Enterprise A, it's just the Enterprise.
NERD! (ding) :)
Nay bloody A,B,C ORRRR D
Brent Haskins
no it wasn't
it was a new ship
the Yorktown was damaged a distance from Earth by the probe
in Star Trek 4
First time I've seen your video, you cracked me up but you need to know, you'll only made me wanna break out my DVDs and watch everything... movies, tv shows, all generations... over again! lol. Enjoyed your video... really!
"The Enterprise is 20 years old"
For a ship that isn't even its midlife. A typical ship will be in service for 40 to 60 years, with the USS Iowa having been in service for 47 years between its first commission and last decommission.
Hell in the Star Trek TNG and DS9 we see Excelsior Class ships that are in the 80 years of service range still operating.
Yep - the aircraft carrier Enterprise (CVN-65) was in service for over 50 years.
It's also far older than 20 years. Spock served on it for 11 years under Christopher Pike prior to Kirk assuming command. The previous film says it's been 15 since Space Seed, which was a season one episode. That's at least 26 years old there. Add in that some time needed to pass between "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and the rest of season one, since the ship has had a major refit and the uniforms we changed, that's probably another year, at least.
And that's after the major refit in ST:TMP
@@carlrood4457 Agree with both points: it must be about 30 years old, and it's probably a better ship design than Reliant's and Grissom's and should be in service at least as long as it takes to make two dozen Excelsior-class ships. (There were only about a dozen like the Enterprise in the fleet in TOS and several got blown up or contaminated.) Still seems weird that a guy under 40 could be given command of their top-class ship in TOS.
Yay! Something to watch right before work!
Ayyyy it's 7PM (23.5 hours till Beyond)
+Valpas Kankaristo it's already out in my cinema imma see it in almost 2 hours :))
+Rares Buliga SPOILERALERT
shrek dies
Rares Buliga Enjoy, my friend!
+Maksymilian Piotr Rudnicki Nooooo shrek!!😢😢😢😢
At 13:42. Best moment of the video! I recognized it as Christopher Lloyd's voice but didn't realize the line was from a different movie. You got me!!!
I always chuckle when "Captain Cautious" says "Prepare for evasive!" Just DO the evasive, don't PREPARE for it.
Isn't the reason Vulcan nerve pinch works only by Vulcans is that they are 5-10x stronger then Humans -Due to the Gravity on Planet Vulcan 🤔
That's right my friend!
No, the resin is "any of a class of solid or semisolid viscous substances obtained either as exudations from certain plants or prepared by polymerization of simple molecules".
Archer and Picard could do it.
He probably couldn't do it because his brain was all scrambled up. He went to nerve pinch because the Spock part of him would do that first thing but the Bones part wasn't trained on how to do it.
Actually, according to Leonard Nimoy himself, the theory is that Vulcans have the ability to exert some kind of energy from their fingertips, which allows them to render people unconscious when its applied to certain nerve clusters in the neck and shoulder (and probably also responsible for the ability to mind meld and Vulcans being able to make out by touching fingers). McCoy couldn't do it because he's not a Vulcan, so can't exert that kind of energy. As for Data, he's an android, so he can probably leak all kinds of energy at will. As for Picard and Archer. . . well, I'm stumped, but I think we can all agree anything shown on Enterprise can be pretty safely discarded.
Wait - this got less sins than Wrath of Kahn? Didn't see that coming!
That is surprising.
Maybe if it was 15 minutes or so longer they'd have found reason to give it more. How about some sins for not having extra/deleted scenes for its TV broadcast like the previous 2?
BRING ON THE WHALES!!!
...one of the best parting shots in history...
That was one of the funniest things I have seen in ages! Nicely done!
2:29 I wonder if the Klingon in the middle is suffering from male pattern baldness.
One sin for Chekov's Fievel the Mouse uniform... DING!!!
The Excelsior itself isn't the experiment. The built in trans warp drive is experimental. When Sulu takes the ship over it uses a regular warp drive.
McCoy can't do the neck pinch because of his arthritis (although that would seem to mean he would not get his medical license renewed.) In the novelisation Uhura opens the space doors (however that is a significantly different thing telling) in a cut scene from TNG 'Relics' Scotty tells LaForge "…fortunately someone had the sense to open the doors before we crashed into them" the assumption being he was talking about these events.
2019 here, there sitll isn't a CinemaSins for ST4
Deadpool...
+DramaHateNation *great
+Kaylahdoll lol
Oh, just shut it already. Just be happy that Disney didn't have the rights to it. Safe bet that they would've taken the "Ultimate Deadpool" route and made Wade "accessible to a wider audience".
Ryan Reynolds did a great job, my teenage crush on Morena Baccarin from watching reruns of Firefly has been renewed for obvious reasons, and, overall, I had fun watching the movie. I've got nothing to complain about...
Except the guy who played Ajax. Could've done better with someone else.
DramaHateNation Oh well
agree to disagree then
So glad to hear you pray throughout. Keep it up ; He will help you let go of finding fault with everything.
The overdubbing of Doc Brown at index 13:22 is brilliant! :D
oh god, more sins to sin... they got away to the Enterprise because technical genius Uhura was monitoring and rerouting communications... remember how she was stationed at Starfleet? yeah, to cover up her crews tracks. Jesus, Cinema Sins, get with it
I know this is just for fun, but I stopped at fifty. I counted twenty that were explained if you just listened to the dialogue. Another fifteen if you knew a little bit about Star Trek.
Deadpool? Civil war? BvS? Xmen?
Civil War and Xmen aren't available on Blu-Ray or Digital HD yet.
Isn't the only two-parter they've had so far the 4th Transformers movie? Or were there more?
+Daniel Skrivan Star Wars prequels.
Murphdawg1 gaming
Ah yes. Although they still took less parts than the Red Letter Media star wars reviews.
+John Collazo
Nobody likes a hater.
TNG explains the whole "can't fire while cloaked" thing. Turns out the cloaks drain too much power. I guess you could fire torpedoes, but once the launch is detected you can return fire at the point of origin. Since it takes a few seconds to transfer power from the cloaks to the shields, firing a torpedo while cloaked seems like a poor tactical choice.
Ok, that was very entertaining! Great work!
I just realized the Enterprise is actually 31 years old in this movie...
I guess the people who make this movie are also the people who are making Discovery because neither group seems to know the episode The Cage exists
2245-2285 in non canon references, 2250-2285 in canon.
Technically the Admiral isn’t wrong... he says the Enterprise is OVER 20 years old...
@@richardludwig3673 its more like 40 or more years old
The movie was directed by Leonard Nimoy, who indeed was in The Cage. Also, the TOS episode The Menagerie basically confirmed that pilot episode's existence. Don't get your panties in a bunch just because one person on camera gives the Enterprise an age that doesn't seem right.
Put a dozen or more Excelsior-class ships in service, and you can retire the Enterprise. "Federation Battle-Cruiser."
Please do The Voyage Home, the Final Frontier, and Undiscovered Country!
It's been 2 years since you teased us with coveirng The Voyage home...
You're so great! I can't wait to see your movie.
Everything wrong with Captain America: CIVIL WAR
it has to come out on bluray first
EWW Deadpool do it already
They have stated they will not be doing Deadpool
+DramaHateNation, they should learn how to use a condom if the counter is that high.
Well, the son counter of this movie is -1
+Temeraire Why not?
Alexandria Blue I think they said because Its too self aware
Missed the entire scene where uhura is conveniently working in transporter control with a naïve cadet and she has a phaser. Because plot convenience.
I've laughed on everyone of your videos but I've never laughed so hard on the Die Hard ending. Priceless.