Definitely run a fuel pressure sensor. You can easily be fooled into thinking everything is fine even though fuel pressure is dropping to 25psi! All the data you can monitor will make tuning that much easier.
It can make troubleshooting much easier and possibly save engine damage. If you have a wide band however you can also use that to save the engine if pressure drops and it leans out. But you still have to troubleshoot it .
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest people think it doesn't matter lol, I've had shops hire me for tuning and they don't even have a MAT sensor, thought it wasn't important lmao
Fuel Injectors = GENUINE Siemens Deka or Bosch. FIC (fuel injector clinic) or ID (Injector Dynamics) which starts from Genuine Bosch OE. Depends on flow range needed.
I think for the most part, I am setting up my junk with a decent plan. I hope Holley injectors are good since they are the ones I got. So far the car runs, one day I even plan on tuning it, once I get it driveable.
After listening to you and Happel talk about how bad the knock tuning is on Holley I just pulled the wires out of my harness. Not even gonna mess with it. TTT will show me the way :)
In my experience knock control in OEM ecus is used as a preventative measure mostly. There are features that will retard the timing somewhat over time based on how much knock there is. But generally it won t continue to advance the timing past what is in the ignition table if knock free. I watched a video on Holley and it seems the tricky part is distinguishing what is real knock and what is just noise. This takes some time and testing but seems doable.
Good info here. I feel like it’s a good ecu for the money, and I’m squeezing all I can out of it with my NA 5.3. I always recommended the CAN expansion module and get quality sensors. I’m a novice to tuning but you have been a big help with setting everything up and getting running decent. Yeah the knock sensors seem pretty useless. I can get them to read but they don’t seem right. I just pay attention to my VE values and AFR targets and things seem to run pretty good.
The people having issues with EFI are the same people that bolt on a new carb out of the box and can't comprehend why the engine doesn't run right. They also think that wire nuts and self tappers make a good electrical connection.
ive just had a tuning shop for a long time. installed a holley kit, taught myself how to tune it, and got bombarded with holley work so ive just sorta learned the in's and out's of it after doing a whole lot of it
@maikolrodriquez oem ecu is the move. It can be easily tuned with DS1. They have instructions for swaps also. I has syvecs on my RS3 shop car. I went back do DS1 for driveability.
I planning to buy a terminator x max for a dodge magnum engine and transmission swap completely stock will the universe kit work for it and if so will it be possible to tune it to have a choppy idle or sound like If it has one?
Are the 24x harnesses wired for the gen 3 style 1 bar map (left to right: 5v, out, ground) and the 58x wired for the 1.3 bar LS3 map (left to right: out, ground, 5v)?
I'm running a NTK sensor on a Terminator X and just did a drag and drive event with it and seemed to run fine. Do you think it could be an issue or should it just not work?
ive used tons of weldon stuff in the past with great success. used to use their regulators on everything. most of their pumps are big loud and expensive so they dont make the most sense for a lot of applications
Got several people telling me that I can’t tune ve format. Ve format is not realistic option. Omg people I can’t fix stupid! Everything else is manageable!
I don't have knock sensors. I thought you had said once That There isn't a way to configure it with terminator. I guess i must have heard that somewhere else.Crap! Learning is tough when your brain is the size of a pee, And your piggy bank is hiding under the bed In the feedle position.
Terminator X is self tooning bro. You literally spend the big $$$ to avoid paying a tooner. Stop putting it down. Your just mad they stole your job. We dont need you bud ✌️
Definitely run a fuel pressure sensor. You can easily be fooled into thinking everything is fine even though fuel pressure is dropping to 25psi! All the data you can monitor will make tuning that much easier.
i have a whole video on that. your crazy if you have efi and dont have a fuel pressure sensor haha
It can make troubleshooting much easier and possibly save engine damage. If you have a wide band however you can also use that to save the engine if pressure
drops and it leans out. But you still have to troubleshoot it .
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest people think it doesn't matter lol, I've had shops hire me for tuning and they don't even have a MAT sensor, thought it wasn't important lmao
Where can i buy ORIGINAL injectors? Not chinese
I think everything is made in china these days😂
ROFL - Loved the Muppets Video Clip "3-Days into a 30 minute install - and now you read the directions" !!!
Fuel Injectors = GENUINE Siemens Deka or Bosch. FIC (fuel injector clinic) or ID (Injector Dynamics) which starts from Genuine Bosch OE. Depends on flow range needed.
I think for the most part, I am setting up my junk with a decent plan. I hope Holley injectors are good since they are the ones I got. So far the car runs, one day I even plan on tuning it, once I get it driveable.
After listening to you and Happel talk about how bad the knock tuning is on Holley I just pulled the wires out of my harness. Not even gonna mess with it. TTT will show me the way :)
Was curious about knock control with Holley. OEM ecu knock control seems fairly reliable in my experience.
I have zero issues running with knock sensors on an Xmax. It works great, pulls timing when needed, etc. Its all explained in the manual.
In my experience knock control in OEM ecus is used as a preventative measure mostly. There are features that will retard the timing somewhat over time based on how much knock there is. But generally it won t continue to advance the timing past what is in the ignition table if knock free. I watched a video on Holley and it seems the tricky part is distinguishing what is real knock and what is just noise. This takes some time and testing but seems doable.
Droppin' knowledge for the greater good, thanks Joe.
Been using 3 bar sensors most format
Thank you Joe, information that comes from you is good. I'll trust you.
Good info here. I feel like it’s a good ecu for the money, and I’m squeezing all I can out of it with my NA 5.3. I always recommended the CAN expansion module and get quality sensors. I’m a novice to tuning but you have been a big help with setting everything up and getting running decent. Yeah the knock sensors seem pretty useless. I can get them to read but they don’t seem right. I just pay attention to my VE values and AFR targets and things seem to run pretty good.
Thank you Joe for making this video . Very helpful info .
The people having issues with EFI are the same people that bolt on a new carb out of the box and can't comprehend why the engine doesn't run right. They also think that wire nuts and self tappers make a good electrical connection.
Time to learn some haltech stuff
MIghtve been worth mentioning how the "self tuning" actually works. Most self installers dont know what to do with the learn tables.
You're the man Joe. Forget the haters.
Also where do you get your B roll? Its amazing! ha
Thank you for sharing this information!
Jesus Christ so much you got to do !!!
I'm happy with my DEMON 625 that I redone to a 750 and added annular boosters in my garage !!
🤷♂️
Never going back to the Holley now that the Haltech Rebel LS is out
soooo much better.
Wish I would have known.
Thanks Joe Excellent Video.
Unfortunately, too many people fall victim to the misinformation of Holley’s marketing campaign.
how did you learn all this stuff on holley systems. what is your background in tuning
ive just had a tuning shop for a long time. installed a holley kit, taught myself how to tune it, and got bombarded with holley work so ive just sorta learned the in's and out's of it after doing a whole lot of it
Will this work on my 5cyl Audi
If you are looking to tune a DAZA do yourself a favor and stay away from holley for that.
Syvecs seems to be the way to go for that.
No, but it will work with a Kia soul.
@maikolrodriquez oem ecu is the move. It can be easily tuned with DS1. They have instructions for swaps also. I has syvecs on my RS3 shop car. I went back do DS1 for driveability.
Yes i've done it hundreds of times
Would like to put a terminator x on a 4g63 dsm.
Great info thanks
Thanks again 👍
I planning to buy a terminator x max for a dodge magnum engine and transmission swap completely stock will the universe kit work for it and if so will it be possible to tune it to have a choppy idle or sound like If it has one?
How can I get in contact with you to pay you for a remote tune? Been a sub for some years now and very interested in your expertise.
Hi, im trying to swap my 350 for a LS1 5.3, my question is i would like to keep my trans so what type of efi should i use???
if its holley and you want to use an electronically controlled transmission you need a terminator x or a dominator
Are the 24x harnesses wired for the gen 3 style 1 bar map (left to right: 5v, out, ground) and the 58x wired for the 1.3 bar LS3 map (left to right: out, ground, 5v)?
I have a few ebay fake bosch sensors that appear to be real down to the packaging. none of them work.
I'm running a NTK sensor on a Terminator X and just did a drag and drive event with it and seemed to run fine. Do you think it could be an issue or should it just not work?
I'm intrigued... which ntk did you run?
I ran the sensor from Holley 554-100. I couldn't change it in the software off the Bosch sensor but ran fine the whole time.
Is deka 80 one of the injectors you can choose from in list of injectors
You can download the software for free and look at the list. Or what he said at 7:30
Anyone know if holley injectors are any good or ok ?
This video literally killed me 😅
Awesome information
Can u tell me in holleys injector list best matches up with my id's,100lb......thx,Todd,from Tennessee.
enter the data manually that ID provides
What fuel pump and regulator brand do you recommend, or have you tested before with good results?
Thanks
ive used tons of weldon stuff in the past with great success. used to use their regulators on everything. most of their pumps are big loud and expensive so they dont make the most sense for a lot of applications
@@JoeSimpsonAtTempest I'm making a street strip car forndsyly driving, so o dont want something loud but I want domthkng very reliable
Can´t believe how often you´ve had to make videos with this theme of the ECU basics and then having to drill it in to people so many times.
Does terminator x support 2 knock sensors?
He answered that in the video but no, only 1. Dominator does 2.
Two knock sensors, yes, Two Oxygen Sensors no.
@@dave_kauffman it will do 2 knock sensors, just one 02 sensor
I've watched a fairly experienced automotive technician pull his hair out trying to get one working.
I have fast 36lb are those in the app
download the software and check, perfect excuse to start getting yourself familiar with navigating the software! (its a free download on holleys site)
I wish this video was out years ago to scare all the idiots buying these thinking they self tune themselves
Got several people telling me that I can’t tune ve format. Ve format is not realistic option. Omg people I can’t fix stupid! Everything else is manageable!
Savage bro 😂😅😂😅😅
We are living in a golden age where people want to be spoon fed. Research?? What's that?? If I'm spending money it should just work. LOOOOOLL!!
$2k+ for a tuner. It should be pretty straightforward....
Do you sell Holley efi kits?
no, I am not a dealer.
I don't have knock sensors. I thought you had said once That There isn't a way to configure it with terminator. I guess i must have heard that somewhere else.Crap! Learning is tough when your brain is the size of a pee, And your piggy bank is hiding under the bed In the feedle position.
@@kevinwest3689 you don’t need them, very few people use them with Holley
Terminator X is self tooning bro. You literally spend the big $$$ to avoid paying a tooner. Stop putting it down. Your just mad they stole your job. We dont need you bud ✌️
Accell is overpriced chinese junk
Theses things are junk, had all the stuff ,did all prevention, it is not user friendly. And called help and still did not work.