Top Ten MTG: Best Board Wipes For Commander

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  • @cheffoisky
    @cheffoisky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I was hoping to see Ugin on this list. His -X is great!

  • @dougtaylor26
    @dougtaylor26 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, how did Catastrophe not make the list... literally the perfect board wipe. Armageddon when you're ahead on board, wrath of god when you're behind.

  • @NosTeraFuTV
    @NosTeraFuTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Rift is just ridiculous...

  • @cafeofbadum4133
    @cafeofbadum4133 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This weekend we had a pretty nice Commander round.
    My very best friend was playing for her first time Commander and managed to play my unchangend Arahbo Precon, my cousin run his Thasa Deep Sea Creatures an I played my Sen Triplets.
    Was a very intense Game!
    We had just two Board Wipes, which is very unusual for a two of our self constructed decks. My cousin copied my O Stone (I hadn't enough mana to put some counters on my stuff...)
    Got beaten the shit out of me by her cats but could stand a while thanks to Rhystic Study which let me draw like 10 cards (yes she didn't want to pay that often for her spells an additional Mana :D).
    But the Point ist that she was able to play her 14 cards hand after a Cyclonic Rift (love that card!) down to seven again!
    Thanks to Mirari's Wake XD
    Haven't seen this many times before in a precon.
    To quote Jace: "I had a headache" :P
    I think we got her into Commander :D

  • @fish7678
    @fish7678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My current Baral deck wins by casting flood of tears and putting Archeomancer into play. Then I cast three 0 drop artifacts and rinse repeat every turn until I get Omniscience. Then I win. Also Spellbook and Reliquary Tower are MVPs.

    • @Legaleagle0200
      @Legaleagle0200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds boring and who would let you keep doing that

    • @fish7678
      @fish7678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Legaleagle0200 It was pretty boring. My playgroup tried to stop it and it only was able to continue due to being 30% counterspells. I dismantled it. Now I am playing Dimir mill/combo. Either I mill or I combo. Sometimes it's both.

  • @koreyg8552
    @koreyg8552 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Akromas vengeance?

  • @DragonmasterSK
    @DragonmasterSK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bane of Progress is my favorite ... I laugh my ass off when People see my activate Green Sun Zenith and fear a Craterhoof ... precisely because I used to get Cyclonic rift and lost my battle phase. Bane of progress kills all that blue players mana rocks while dealing with the rest of the table :)

  • @nanya524
    @nanya524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All is dust has a combo with eight and a half tails. If u turn someone's land white, you can mass land wipe them.

  • @Fernando-fh2um
    @Fernando-fh2um 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The one you're missing in the top 5 is Ugin, maybe top 3

  • @novaknight30
    @novaknight30 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think in a format as explosive as edh having cyclonic rift is a good thing.

  • @elitheworrywort
    @elitheworrywort 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you're trying to blow everything up it's kinda hard to beat planar cleansing and hour of revelation

    • @cyricnosferat227
      @cyricnosferat227 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorta suprised hour of revelation wasn't at least mentioned with blasphamus act in the value catagory

    • @Heldenfussel
      @Heldenfussel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, but it's not about "blowing everithing up", it's about to play efficient removal against your threats and don't get punished by your own removal. Like you can always use Austere Command or the Conviction to get rid of your actual problem and don't get punished too Hard...Also you want to save your Mana rocks and other noncreature permanents most of the time so "destroy all permanents" effects are rarely better, especially against cards like Heroic Intervention...also bot are triple white and Oblivion ring is far better

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heldenfussel single target removal is not very good in commander unless it is repeatable/recurring or synergistic.

  • @GuardianAngelEatos
    @GuardianAngelEatos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a very interesting top 10. I personally would not put Pernicious Deed that high because it is going to make everyone else target you until you trigger it.
    I forgot about this board wipe, and could really use it in my Mazirek deck since there aren't many good board wipes in those colors, and my Kadador deck could use it too because Sun Titan.
    I think It's hard to choose a top ten board wipes because the ones that are better at doing the job cost more mana, while the ones that aren't as versatile and or don't get rid of indestructible creatures because they are cheap board wipes they allow you to play more or play bigger spells during the same turn. I think it comes down to what your group plays with and your deck.
    So why did Terminus make the honorable mentions and not Hallowed Burial? They are the same, except Hallowed Burial doesn't have the Miracle cost, but it naturally costs one less mana. How often are you going to want to cast Terminus when you draw it?
    Yeah Blasphemous Act is very underrated, and I think It's one of the best too! I put it in every deck that has red in it.
    Yeah It's not a surprise to see Cyclonic Rift be number one. That's my number one too.
    I'm so glad that Austere Command got a reprint! I've always wanted that card! It's so good!
    I think the only card worth banning over Cyclonic Rift would be Deadeye Navigator. I'm so surprised that it hasn't been banned yet!

  • @Illusionmaker_MTG
    @Illusionmaker_MTG 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like "Descend upon the Sinful", since it sets you up for a nice turn afterwards and deals with the likes of Avacyn.
    "Endemic Plague" on "Mirror Entity" is insane too ;)
    ....and I have to mention "Hythonia the Cruel" and "Magister of Worth" who both do their job more than just fine!

    • @Legaleagle0200
      @Legaleagle0200 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Descend is like 6 mana though ouch. You could brainstorm and crush of tentacles for that much dealing with all non land permanents and getting an 8/8

  • @Kuronosa
    @Kuronosa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ever see someone using Sun Titan and Oblivion Stone in the same deck, and get them both out? Not a pretty sight.... Put a Counter on Titan, then blow up the world, use Titan's attack trigger to bring O-stone back, repeat.

    • @vern_kiyo
      @vern_kiyo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kenji Egashira in Command Zone: Game Knights

    • @Kuronosa
      @Kuronosa 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vern_kiyo before that, it happened to me in a game once.... had to make them blow it up and then exile all graveyards....not fun.

    • @vern_kiyo
      @vern_kiyo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhhg thats sad

  • @PawzBrownMTG
    @PawzBrownMTG 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice set of enchantments and counters

  • @001shadowknight
    @001shadowknight 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In a artifact deck. Combine mirror works, dark steel forge and oblivion stone. You won’t need the date counters, and you have two stones

  • @Lumavah
    @Lumavah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Artifact fan, I like using Scour Glass personally. All is Dust too.

  • @JustinSullivanMarketing
    @JustinSullivanMarketing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hour of Revelation is nuts. A most-likely 3-mana destroy all nonland permanents? Yes please! With Avacyn out? Even better! Takes care of planeswalkers, enchantments, artifacts, creatures, whatever that's not a land!

  • @georgeducharme2819
    @georgeducharme2819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I definitely would of had in garruks wake in the top 5. Ugin too

    • @andrewamann8855
      @andrewamann8855 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Garruk's Wake is kinda pricey for what it does. it's good, but you really need to be able to capitalize on it immediately, and hard, because there's a load of opportunity for some really rough return fire after the fact.

    • @jackstansfield7571
      @jackstansfield7571 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, its great in my jodah deck though

    • @Kurse_of_Kall
      @Kurse_of_Kall 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewamann8855 But it doesn't matter if it's a lot of mana because you're getting a mana advantage simply by not killing your own things with it. Cast it precombat and then you get in for a huge chunk of damage because no one has any blockers left. Then the opponents have to decide whether they want to rebuild their own board or to deal with your board. Either way you came out ahead by getting in a free attack and getting some valuable cards out of their hand.

    • @brennanrenz5673
      @brennanrenz5673 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      George Du

    • @jackstansfield7571
      @jackstansfield7571 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kurse_of_Kall or they could Mana drain it like what happened to me...

  • @williamschaefer1822
    @williamschaefer1822 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have won a 1/1 edh Kaalia vs. Sliver Overlord when he thought he had me dead. He'd tapped Kaalia dropped a Gisela and tapped another. I had on board and in hand (+haste) just enough for lethal, when I cast Cyclonic Rift overloaded in response to his attacks. "GG"

  • @d.undeadNobleman
    @d.undeadNobleman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I missed my good old fiend, Descend upon the sinful. Exiling all creatuers, + an angel if you have delirium. Should probably be on here.

  • @joelguerin-simard3415
    @joelguerin-simard3415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a friend in my playgroup plays pernicious deed with his muldrotha deck... oh god it is frustrating hahaha

  • @justinwinterspear
    @justinwinterspear 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So would you put Cleansing Nova or Deafening Clarion somewhere on this list?

  • @ryuuzaiki9005
    @ryuuzaiki9005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    bearer of the heaven + chance of glory + wakening sun's avatar( next turn) if you only have 2 life in edh multi. so satisfying.

  • @jeffsonnefield6199
    @jeffsonnefield6199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a personal motto for mtg. I never use a card that harms me as well as my opponents unless it's a situation where I will lose if I don't. I like one sided cards.

    • @Legaleagle0200
      @Legaleagle0200 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Board wipes are very often one sided you just have to use the right ones at the right times

  • @MeatPops
    @MeatPops 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Cyclonic Rift wins games.

    • @1337x1337x
      @1337x1337x 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheWise Meatball Turn 0 Leyline of the Void. Late game Cyclonic Rift, end of turn opponent's turn with 100 permanents on the board (token mischief). Main phase paradox engine, sol ring, isochron scepter imprinted with counterspell. Dragon Mage combat damage to flush all those cards down the drain. Grixis control dreams are made of this.

    • @lieutenantdelta8799
      @lieutenantdelta8799 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, no it doesn't

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it really doesn’t.

  • @JoshieTheQueen166
    @JoshieTheQueen166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Fated Retruibution board wipe?

  • @camerondavis7668
    @camerondavis7668 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah idk how hour of revelation wasnt mention

    • @Heldenfussel
      @Heldenfussel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Triple white and you got lots of enchantments and artifacts you don't want to get rid of in white, so Cards like Austere Command are 90% of the time better

  • @SFTortoise
    @SFTortoise 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is 'overwhelming forces' not in this list?

    • @davidrosenberg9615
      @davidrosenberg9615 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you, even knowing that card exists! Mad props!

  • @sQuibleable
    @sQuibleable 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another thing about cyclonic rift is that gadook teeg doesn’t stop it

  • @78thephoenixking37
    @78thephoenixking37 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good wrath that I absolutely cannot be without in a deck of mine is called: In Garruk's Wake

    • @78thephoenixking37
      @78thephoenixking37 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes care of creatures and planeswalkers that I dont control

  • @divineshadow-gathererofmag7710
    @divineshadow-gathererofmag7710 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #7 is Toxic Deluge.
    My good sir that is way too low.

  • @jormungardwe
    @jormungardwe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you honored mentioned rout, but not fated retribution?

    • @TheWiggleTuff
      @TheWiggleTuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Claudio Cavalcante Bomfim Júnior Fated retribution is triple W, that's already not great, rout can also cast only 5 when you need it to with the option of it costing 7. The scry on fated is honestly not even that great in commander

    • @jormungardwe
      @jormungardwe 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      it kills planeswalkers

    • @Heldenfussel
      @Heldenfussel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but it's rare to see too many Planeswalkers in a Multiplayer EDH and it's kinda slow for single player, so you play it in Mono white or if your playgroup plays Superfriends or something like this.

  • @noahwildermimzy
    @noahwildermimzy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the Music at the beginning? It’s good

    • @CommanderVoid
      @CommanderVoid  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a stock track. Something called “monkey’s wedding” lol.

  • @christinabutterfield1801
    @christinabutterfield1801 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I use pernicious deed or nevinerals disk they just get blown up by targeted removal before I get to use them😢😢

    • @merlin2k6
      @merlin2k6 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brandon Butterfield Leave some mana up so you can use them in response.

    • @SpiceWeazel
      @SpiceWeazel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Laurence de Carle That doesn’t work with Nev’s disk

  • @CB-sv2bm
    @CB-sv2bm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Colorless EDH decks would like to argue the value of All is Dust. That is practically game there.

  • @angelusnielson7135
    @angelusnielson7135 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is Marcial on a creature wipe? AT best you're getting a few low-cost creatures...

  • @seandowney2338
    @seandowney2338 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think phyrexian rebirth has some merit to it as well. Sure, it's six cmc, and only sorcery speed, but then most creatures are dead, and in commander, it wouldn't be so hard to end up with a 20/20 horror. Against a swarm deck, even more.

  • @Ciecilius
    @Ciecilius 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to devestation tide?

  • @fandomewhisper
    @fandomewhisper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I used to have a really fun Kambal deck that had 15 boardwipes .

    • @Heldenfussel
      @Heldenfussel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How about your playgroup? ^^

    • @tahalm3510
      @tahalm3510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Fun" and "Fifteen Boardwipes" don't go together.

    • @freakyfrank1549
      @freakyfrank1549 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have many people to play against with that?

    • @juleswinter7083
      @juleswinter7083 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cygnus Vismund you monster

  • @catfoodbob1
    @catfoodbob1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    these are what counterspells exist for.
    Also blasphamous act would be hilarious in a deck with vigor.

    • @Legaleagle0200
      @Legaleagle0200 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or stuffy doll effects and or en Kors turn it into player killer

  • @darkdragonXD1
    @darkdragonXD1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If someone has 7 mana open and trys to cyclonic rift , you can pay 1 for dispel and counter it, very simple, pyroblast is also a posibility.

    • @rookieron2774
      @rookieron2774 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What Happens when they counter your counter though

    • @darkdragonXD1
      @darkdragonXD1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rookieron2774 Sure but they already tap 7 so its easy for you to have 4 mana for 2 counters.

  • @carldooley9344
    @carldooley9344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no Mageta the Lion?

  • @kurtsloop2462
    @kurtsloop2462 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive always like Bane of the Living and Death Cloud

  • @avijeu3
    @avijeu3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is Upheaval not on this list? Seriously, have you seen the power of that card in the right build with mana dorks and mana rocks?

    • @damianmush5100
      @damianmush5100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alexandru Vijeu this is a joke right? Upheaval is banned in commander.

  • @AlphaDraconis369
    @AlphaDraconis369 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jokulhaups?

    • @Heldenfussel
      @Heldenfussel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You won't play too often with your friends if you keep playing Jokulhaups, Armagheddon and so on ^^

    • @almisami
      @almisami 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jokulhaups, Obliterate, Decree of Annihilation. All your friends will never think they are safe from red ever again.

    • @AlphaDraconis369
      @AlphaDraconis369 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our playgroup welcome such destruction.

    • @AlphaDraconis369
      @AlphaDraconis369 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      almisami you forgot Apocalypse

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people like to actually play magic.

  • @TrixyTrixter
    @TrixyTrixter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play of the game is my pick for one of the best nukes.
    6 white white
    Assist (Another player can pay up to 6 of this spell's cost.)
    Exile all nonland permanents.

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TrixyTrixter my favorite “play of the game” was when someone tapped out for play of the game and I had daze lol.

  • @ashra8281
    @ashra8281 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1) Elish Norn

  • @olinkaspar9711
    @olinkaspar9711 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kind of expected vandalblast to be at least in honorable mentions... Cool list nonetheless :-)

  • @macguy4321
    @macguy4321 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would add, at least an honorable mention, mass calcify. If you play mono white, it destroys other creatures,, but not yours

  • @sasquanchsmoove3685
    @sasquanchsmoove3685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Izzet specialize in unnatural disaster.

  • @Magnivore519
    @Magnivore519 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Decree of Annihilation should have been on here since it wipes nearly the entire board, and then some.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I run that in Grand Warlord Radha! If you really need it, you can just annihilate, but the cycling is amazing when you can generate 7 mana just by attacking.
      The main downside is it doesn't touch planeswalkers.

  • @JeffBrooklyn93
    @JeffBrooklyn93 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about world slayer

  • @crimsonblade323
    @crimsonblade323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Ugin?

  • @nonameimpotantlive9233
    @nonameimpotantlive9233 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad rift is blue imagine it in green or White which is a more creatures in general

  • @mariecarrillo1737
    @mariecarrillo1737 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos bro

  • @deelight6022
    @deelight6022 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aether snap? Perilous Vault?

  • @LoneQuietus
    @LoneQuietus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not the best per se, but Planar Cleansing is the biggest no excuses board reset. It hits everything and ignores indestructible.

  • @trevor9241
    @trevor9241 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have had gaze of granite or slaughter the strong in honorable, but that is just me I guess

  • @el_duck6577
    @el_duck6577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:55
    “All is Dust” is kinda racist not gonna lie.

  • @voldemort008
    @voldemort008 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cleansing Nova deserves to be on the list IMO.

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daemon Redwyne it wasn’t printed yet when this video was posted.

  • @xChikyx
    @xChikyx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    where's apocalypse?

    • @TheBlackdragon936
      @TheBlackdragon936 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chiky Scares Yo best card ever but most people don’t even know it exists. You want to cast it when it’s the last car in your hand and you know what’s on top of your deck with library or top.

    • @xChikyx
      @xChikyx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBlackdragon936 I play it like this: I attack with narsert, shecs enchanted with vanishing, she phases out, I cast Apocalypse, I lose all friends hahaha

  • @williamagulto5602
    @williamagulto5602 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot the best removal of all time!!! Decree of Annihilation

  • @marinusremmink345
    @marinusremmink345 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who doesnt love cyclonic rift right so great

    • @professorfivehead5768
      @professorfivehead5768 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      People who have the misfortune to play against rift hate it.

  • @andresperez7476
    @andresperez7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont have any of these cards 😣😞😰

  • @egoclosed-fisted2644
    @egoclosed-fisted2644 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cyclonic Rift + Isocron Scepter means i win?

    • @CommanderVoid
      @CommanderVoid  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately, the overload can’t be paid with scepter.

    • @egoclosed-fisted2644
      @egoclosed-fisted2644 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it isn't part of the casting cost like Orim's Chant. ie kicker ability?

    • @alexzander7629
      @alexzander7629 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct. With effects like Isocron Scepter, you can not use alternate costs (like overload) when putting the spell in question on the stack

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Archeomancer+Cyclonic rift.

  • @bendiv7999
    @bendiv7999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doomskjar!!! Wait it didnt exist Back then

  • @karmajarrule
    @karmajarrule 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you Snapcaster Black Suns you can pay x as whatever you want

    • @valarose1993
      @valarose1993 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, X is 0 since no Mana was put into it

    • @karmajarrule
      @karmajarrule 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You still have to pay mana to cast it with snapcaster so you can choose what x is

    • @TheWiggleTuff
      @TheWiggleTuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dockdock 3000 Actually you cannot, that's why Snapcaster and Sphinxs revelation aren't great together
      Edit, you are right I was thinking of goblin dark dwellers.

    • @Heldenfussel
      @Heldenfussel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, thats why I play 4 Snapcaster and 12 Fireball-like effects in my Legacy Deck along with some Cantrips...pretty op if your opponents don't know the game

    • @relianc9825
      @relianc9825 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, but that wasn't the problem. The problem is that bsz never hits the graveyard, it shuffles itself back into the deck

  • @lieutenantdelta8799
    @lieutenantdelta8799 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Cyclonic Rift is not even close to being ban-worthy

  • @TheRealSpellstar
    @TheRealSpellstar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    even if you don't consider bounce as removal, Cyclonic Rift is still the best board wipe

  • @K3rm1tFr0g
    @K3rm1tFr0g 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    deluge is objectively the best boardwipe in magic right now

  • @M_reapr
    @M_reapr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You FORGOT PERILOUS VAULT. Its the beeznees

  • @Lightningue
    @Lightningue ปีที่แล้ว

    Apocalypse. Most overpowered board wipe that no one uses.

  • @NoBody-ro3xj
    @NoBody-ro3xj 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ill give you a boardwipe thornbite staff on a creature with Deathtouch. If something is indestructible add infect.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Basilisk Collar/Gorgon Flail on Deathbringer Thoctar works similarly. If you add something like Blade of the Bloodchief, it even grows while it's wiping things.

  • @phlash12
    @phlash12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fumigate. Removes AND gives life.

    • @davidrosenberg9615
      @davidrosenberg9615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The life gain is pretty negligible in commander. If someone is gonna beat you, usually the spare ten to fifteen life won't stop them. Past that it's really really plain.

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adding life gain doesn’t justify having to pay 5 mana instead of 4 for a wrath of god. It was fine in standard but commander has numerous better options.

  • @nathangraham4540
    @nathangraham4540 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Decree of Annihilation

  • @northb3384
    @northb3384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think ugin and band of progress deserved a mention. Also in my opinion oblivion stone is crap in this format. Deluge should have been top 3

    • @DrukenReaps
      @DrukenReaps 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the stone crap? there is so much it gets rid of, you can keep stuff if you have time to set it up, and artifacts are easy to return for reuse. It is harsh on mana but ugin is only one less. I could see saying it is ok but x, y, z are better.

    • @northb3384
      @northb3384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It might be fine in games that go on for over an hour but if people are playing good decks then it gets really clunky. If you play it on curve it does nothing for you and you give your opponents plenty of time to destroy it before you get any use out of it. Being able to give your stuff protection from it isn't really an upside because of the steep mana cost. If you are paying 4 mana to give one permanent protection from a boardwipe you maybe use next turn you are already doing something wrong. And if you pay the 8 mana late game to use it right away you are likely tapping out for it and giving your opponents a turn to set up their own boards before you get to do anything else. not to mention any ramp besides land ramp that you do to make it a faster card will get blown up as soon as you use it. There is a very slim chance that you will be able to set up a scenario with this card that has you coming out ahead after you use it, which is what I always look for in a board wipe.

    • @DrukenReaps
      @DrukenReaps 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alright that is all valid reasoning. I probably just think of it as pretty nice since my first edh deck was karn silver golem and I could often make it one sided with darksteel forge. nev's disk was preferred though since it takes more effort to bring the stone back than to tap the disk again.

    • @Heldenfussel
      @Heldenfussel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Ugin, Bane and Disk are all pretty nice if you play in a slower multiplayer round like the casual player and/or got the right shell

  • @almisami
    @almisami 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    DECREE OF ANNIHILATION

  • @Kurse_of_Kall
    @Kurse_of_Kall 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jokulhaups
    gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=JOKULHAUPS

  • @egoclosed-fisted2644
    @egoclosed-fisted2644 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmmm Chimera God deck?

  • @Strolpol
    @Strolpol 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rift needs banned, because any deck playing blue is objectively wrong if it's not playing it.

    • @TheBlackdragon936
      @TheBlackdragon936 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve Strohl I took it out of my maelstrom wanderer deck as I don’t like doing it against people plus it’s not a good cascade.

  • @chaotica-game985
    @chaotica-game985 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad I didn't get to see my boy Bane of Progress. Kindred dominance seems like it should get a mention

  • @jacoblloyd2573
    @jacoblloyd2573 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, ban deadeye navigator and palinchron

  • @Kona_AJ
    @Kona_AJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devastation better be here. So rude.

  • @jensklingenmaier1745
    @jensklingenmaier1745 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terminus is better than anything

  • @counterspellgoon6854
    @counterspellgoon6854 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You literally started by saying wraths weren't considered removal, yet your list was clogged with em, let me tell ya ugin is one of the best removal spells, hour of revelation jokulhops catastrophe, any a few others, like obliterate your list is lackluster at best.

    • @CommanderVoid
      @CommanderVoid  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I literally didn’t.
      I’m sorry I didn’t include every single card to your unreasonable expectations on a top TEN list. Make your own list then.

  • @yugioh1870
    @yugioh1870 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You seriously underrate mana efficiency. The only sweeper arguable that's better then deluge is rift. And I still think it gets the edge. Also you are fucking wrong when you say life is not a resource in other formats. Decks that utilize life as a resource in other formats almost always gets it. Take black summer, take the fact that fetchlands are the best lands in the game, take deaths shadow. Or mana crypt or ancient tomb. This is ridiculous. You even nodded to mana efficiency in your blasphemous act. Like wtf.

    • @CommanderVoid
      @CommanderVoid  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s like I struck a nerve or something. Yes, life is a resource in commander compared to other formats because 40 life is plenty to work with. Cards like necropotence and phyrexian arena see a ton more play in this format as well as sylvan library.
      How is deluge even close to rift? You do realize late game when you’re low in life it’s practically dead? It doesn’t even deal with non-creatures.

  • @clarkskents
    @clarkskents 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap imagine having the commander that could duplicate spells

    • @jakeapplegate6642
      @jakeapplegate6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clarks Kent’s copying boardwipes rarely does anything.