Top 10 Most Broken White Cards of All Time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- Of the colors in Magic the Gathering, its safe to say that white has had a rather interesting place in the realm of card design. Compared to other colors its safe to say white has had the least overtly broken or overpowered cards. That’s not to say that white is without powerful cards, in fact white has had potent cards throughout its history. However many of its best cards tend to be more good for being strong answers or compliments to other cards rather than mostly standing on their own in a vacuum. As such, while white’s most pushed and powerful cards are often less overtly broken, they still have had quite an impact on how the game is played.
Script by Uncrowned Jules
Editing by Pumkinswift
├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10. Rest in Peace: (0:24)
9. Esper Sentinel: (2:05)
8. Ephemerate: (3:51)
7. Prismatic Ending: (5:56)
6. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben: (7:34)
5. Mother of Runes: (9:07)
4. Balance: (11:54)
3. Monastery Mentor: (13:14)
2. Stoneforge Mystic: (15:07)
1. Swords to Plowshares: (17:08)
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(Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.)
Another reason why Rest in Peace is such a powerful sidebord card is because it's a replacement effect for death triggers, meaning any card that interacts with creatures dying (Such as Blood Artist) also gets hated out.
From my knowledge this should also counter unearth decks like necrons
@@kingbl4de734 can't really unearth from the graveyard if there is no graveyard
Ah, balance. The card with easily the most ironic name in the game
indestructible aura may have balance beat
Maybe because it’s banned in most formats?😊
It's about as ironic as a man saying he who lives by the sword dies by the sword....Just so happened to be a carpenter's son and was nailed to a 2x4.
@@lloydlineske2642 that isn't ironic, that's self fulfilling
The good old days when I could have a full playset of four. Good times.
6:11 "non-permanent land" sure does sound like an interesting concept
[[Undiscovered Paradise]]
Swords to plowshares is such a strong card that a lot of people see other strong white removal spells(path to exile, fateful absence, etc.) and think they’re bad because their not swords to plowshares. 1 mana exile anything with little downside is so strong that a lot of other good cards are seen as bad because they aren’t swords to plowshares.
First of all, you aren’t swords to plowshares. Second of all, I am swords to plowshares. Third of all, you wanna be swords to plowshares but you can’t be swords to plowshares since I am already swords to plowshares.
It's a good thing we can only put 4 copies, otherwise, most decks would be 10 support cards, 50 Swords to Plowshares
@@noneofyourbusiness4133Maybe I'll be --Tracer-- Swords to Plowshares
@@cocoquakeonly 1 copy in commander as well.
Get lost also joins this list and is definitely better than fateful absence.
Balance sees more play in Vintage when the meta gets more creature-heavy, but that's not the default state of the format. When Mono White was such a big part of the meta recently, all the decks with White started siding or even maining Balance more often than they had in the Tinker combo meta before.
You can also use STP on your own creatures in those rare edge cases when you need to, don't forget! More than once it's saved me from burn, and once put me into win condition for the "over 40 life' cat
#9 most broken white card: draws a card
#9 most broken blue card: forces your opponent to get kicked in the nuts, probably
every time i did make a Deck that had 1 White Land or 1 "add x Mana of any colour" effect Rest in Peace was a part of the Sideboard. Its such a good card to autoinclude in anything that can create 1 white mana :D Pretty fun to see Dredge decks instantly fold when you play Rest in Peace turn 1 or 2 and they dont have an immediate answer hehe
You forget Swords to plowshares' secret use; exiling your own creature to gain life in an emergency.
It *sounds* like one of those things that's a quirk of the original rules text, but actually it's genuinely a powerful option to suddenly get out of burn range, and was actually an intended function of the card to boot, which is actually pretty unusual for early magic cards.
Pretty much a tool box card, has so much utility.
I'm surprised Armageddon isn't on this list. This reads much more like a 'most playable cards in modern-day Magic' list rather than a broken cards list. It's not a bad list, and I get the title convention for algorithm purposes, but still. 'Geddon, Land Tax, Replenish, Humility, Shahrazad, Moat, heck - maybe even the CoPs - are more 'broken' than many of the cards on this list.
Armageddon is such a great card. I run three or four in my Rebels deck but haven't updated the list in over a decade.
I could be mistaken, but neither Swords or Path explicitly say the exiled creature has to be your opponent's creature. So feasibly you could exile your own creature and gain those effects.
This is probably the best list I've seen on the channel so far. The ordering isn't 100% how I'd put it, but close enough, and the only card I think still deserves a mention is Deafening Silence. Unlike Rest in Peace, which is often worse than Leyline of the Void even in a deck that can cast RIP, Deafening Silence is the best absolute silver bullet to stop so many unfair decks dead in their tracks, and at just 1 mana, there's nothing else that can really claim to stand up beside it.
Idea for a future list. Top Ten [Walker]. So the best Chandra Planeswalker cards or the best versions of Ajani. You could add a dishonourable mention before number one for the worst version of each walker too.
The walkers are popular as characters so I think the videos would be popular and you could dop your toe in the story side of Magic.
Fun fact: the colossus hammmer deck talked about with esper sentinel is called Hammer Time, an ohmage to MC Hammer.
Swords to Plowshares Tournament interaction: Opponent playing Black Jack (Saproling Burst+Pandemonium, 21 damage turn 3), response to damage STP my own 2/2, survive with 1, kill next turn. Perfect card, always surprised it wasnt a rare from the start.
I enjoy all the list you make, but I really enjoy the list talking about the worst ofs'
I feel you’re slightly underselling how impactful the drawback of STP can be. There are times when, say, 3 life can grant an opponent just enough of a window to stabilize and find an answer to your deck (or even just combo off). What really makes STP powerful, imo, is that it’s an instant. If it were a sorcery, it would see a lot less play, but the ability to cast a 1-mana exile spell at instant speed means you can save two in your hand, exile an opponent’s combo piece or finisher, and always be ready to exile it again if they play another, *before* they get to use the rest of their turn to combo off. If they have to counter it to save their combo or synergies, they’re burning at least 2 mana on a 1 mana spell, which is restricting their options for the rest of the turn. Thus, if you chain STP, you’re forcing a decision - save the card it’s targeting, or save your mana to hopefully find another way to win.
I find the lack of white plume adventurer disturbing. The 3 mana initiative creature is way more format warping than the majority of this list.
Archon of Ameria probably earns a spot if you consider vintage in this list. Turn 1 archon bricks a large swath of the format
Honorable mention should go to Hushbringer. She is so underestimated. Two mana to shut down creature ETB and death triggers, on top of having flying and lifelink. Yes, she's a small creature that can die to almost any removal, but I have run up against decks that rely on ETBs and/or death triggers that run little to no removal. Many people have conceded to me on Arena once I get a Hushbringer down.
I'll never forget the time when Brad Nelson scoffed at the notion of Monastery Mentor seeing play in older formats.
Oo this one's great mate, going to do all the colors yeah?
I get that this list is mostly focused on sanctioned constructed formats, but I still feel like Teferi's Protection and Angel's Grace are great mentions. Teferi's Protection is an all star in EDH saving both you and your board for an entire turn cycle, and Angel's Grace literally says "You can't lost the game this turn." at spell speed 4 for just one W.
Balance isn’t the only mono white card banned in legacy anymore👀 and also Shahrazad
Eh shahrazad isn't even that great. It's banned everywhere due to subgames just makes matches go to time or just take forever
@@birdofnyx376 sure but its a mono white card banned in legacy, just as white plumb adventurer and balance
@@danielkings2443
You mean White Plume Adventurer.
I'd be interested in a top 10 cards with the Proliferate keyword.
The only broken white cards I can think of are Balance, Land Tax, and Once More with Feeling. The others on this list are reasonable, and would not belong on the list of "broken" cards that includes Fastbond and Ancestral Recall (among others).
Great list. I think Balance should be at 2, bumping Stoneforge and Mentor back a slot. Mentor isn’t banned and doesn’t do anything outside vintage, which is a function of the vintage cards, not necessarily the mentor. Balance is one of the cards that cannot ever be unbanned anywhere because of how it would warp the respective format.
Balance is not the only mono white card banned in legacy. Shaharazad comes to mind
white bloom adventurer too
@@rettjester
You mean White Plume Adventurer.
Im surprised white plume adventurer didnt make the mentions since it being a 3 drop w/ initiative almost warped all of legacy and some degree vintage which cause a ban in the prior format
It did make the mentions; it was just at the very end of the video lmao
An interesting thing to mention about Prismatic End is the interaction with tax effects like Thalia or Esper Sentinel.
Since the value of X isn't actually relevant and the card cares about the colors spent to cast the spell, not what part of the cost they paid, you can count that extra mana toward a higher convergence.
Meaning that if the opponent plays Thalia you can cast Prismatic End with X equals 0, then Thalia taxing effect applies and makes you pay one more, if you pay it with mana of another color the spell will be able to exile permanents with mana value 2 or less, including Thalia, effectively ignoring her effect.
Works for Thalia and Lodestone Golem, doesn't work for Sentinel
I feel like Solitude and White Plume Adventurer should absolutely be here, both are format-warping cards.
WPA was mentioned in the end.
@@fernandobanda5734 So what? Still should have included them. The list is all messed up. A removal spell at 1 and whites most powerful card ever made it 4th?!
@@lloydlineske2642 Issue with balance is...
Only restricted in vintage, only hits creatures and spells at sorcery speed.
While it is broken, its issue is where are you going to play it and see use?
Commander/Legacy/Modern? Not playable
Vintage? Not useful at sorcery speed, and high artifact mana base. A 1 mana shattering spree replicated once, would do more damage to the enemy then balance in that format.
@@chronoatog5650 Oh! I thought it was titled top 10 most busted white cards of all time. I'm sorry. I didn't realize we were talking about right now and after bannings. Hopefully you can see where I made my mistake.
Amazing!
I saw this list and knew Swords to Plowshares had to be on it. Was not disappointed
Yeah, but it shouldn't have been. It's okay but BROKEN?! No. No it's not.
Swords to Plowshares is so good because a lot of extremely valuable utility creatures are also low in power. I'm thinking combo pieces, sac outlets and untap sources especially.
I need suggestions for mono white tribal angel deck.
Can you do a lit of creatures that were the best in the format but have been laid low due to power creep?
Rest in peace! I love how the cards title, the art work and the effort all match exactly what it is! Magic is a game that is so well thought out.
10. Hallowed Haunting
9. Hallowed Haunting
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6. Hallowed Haunting
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3. Hallowed Haunting
2. Hallowed Haunting
1. Hallowed Haunting
as commander player, i had to think about "land tax" and "Reconnaissance"...
In my Opinion Balance is the strongest white card ever made. In combination with fast artifact mana and massive card draw (in vintage format) it turns in many situations the game from loose to win. I love it. Thx k
Balance should easily be no.1
Agreed. Only no. 4 and no Armageddon seems like he didn't do his homework.
In any format other than exactly vintage (where decks are heavily artifact focused and often run few creatures) Balance would be in every deck. It’s not even remotely close to the other white cards in terms of power level, Swords is more versatile but Swords is just an efficient removal spells.
Surprised tef pro didnt make list but list is solid af still
In Commander, Serra Ascendant is OP. A 6/6 lifelink flyer for 1 mana.
No surprises on the #1 spot. I don't think we will ever get a better removal spell than Swords to Plowshares
It really should be Balance. It's a hard card for people to assess because it's not been legal in anything but Vintage since 1995 or so (so before even a lot of players were born!) but it's an absolute blowout and if it were legal as a 4-of in any format, it would completely ruin it. Like, it's one of the most unbalanced cards ever.
I'm surprised it wasn't Land Tax.
Is balance the evenly matched of mtg?
I thought that flicker was exile until next end step. I thought blink was the exile and return effect.
Nope. Exactly the other way around, because the first occurrence of the "exile and return" ability was literally on a card named Flicker, back in Urza's Destiny.
Academy rector is probably worth mentioning
Someone running balance with the intent of having it see use, like I do with my deck, isn't concerned with reaching it from within the deck. I have 4 Burning Wishes and 1 Fae of Wishes for that.
White.. ultra power with almost no downsides. Divine offering was always one of these in my book. I destroy your artifact and I gain life for your artifact equal to its mana cost. You can look at a white version of a card in every set and find the unfairness of white. Most modern example? Lets look at March of the machines. Tymarel, Chosen of Death versus Daxos, Blessed by the Sun. Both 2 devotion of their prospective color, both 2/* (toughness = current devotion). Tymarel has to pay 1B to exile up to 2 target cards form a graveyard to gain 1 life for each card exiled. Daxos life gain triggers every time a creature of the controller's ETB or dies. Old days you had black and white Knights. Both 2/2 first strike, and protection for black for the white, and white for the black. Equal. Its never that case any more. In 1994 our groups first rule 0 was to ban all versions of Circle of Protection because any one could win the game with those.
Im surprised Land Tax isnt on this list. Possibly one of the best ramp cards ever printed.
No mention of any Elesh Norn? I guess some of them do need other cards to actually break
15:27 : "Equipments, while not being the most successful __Creature__ Type..." I love for this mistakes too ^^
Rest in Peace is Magic's Necrovalley
You put words to the thought that was clattering around the back of my skull for _years_ ; thank you
Would like to point out if you had the modern event deck you could play stone forge mystic in modern when it was banned but you couldn't alter the deck.
I'll need to see proof of that. It was the case for standard, but I don't believe that to be true for modern. Do you have a source or just a friend once said?
I'd love to see a top 10 you can't lose the game and your opponents can't win the game cards
I'm surprised Solemnity isn't on this list. It singlehandedly shuts down so many decks if not removed. Every white deck I have that doesn't rely on counters runs it.
no serra ascendant? a 6/6 flying lifelink on turn 1 in EDH is pretty broken
Dies to removal
How do you pronounce Jitte right but Thalia wrong?
As a white fan, I love Stoneforge Mystic, especially since I can fetch a Sword of Hearth and Home and keep using its effect to flicker Stoneforge Mystic to keep getting her fetch trigger
Balance not seeing a lot of play in vintage is because it's restricted. If you tutor it up it loses a lot of value usually. If you unrestrict it in vintage I bet the format would warp around the card even with all these new powerful cards because it is just a ridiculous card in decks with lots of artifacts to break the symmetry of the effect and make your opponent almost lose on turn 1 just because with the right hands you can make them discard their whole hand or most of it for 1W.
how is Limited Resources not on here?
The omission of Land Tax from this least is a pretty grave error.
prismatic ending can remove... nonpermanent lands? :P
Balance is not the only mono white card banned in legacy, white plume adventurer is, like you said in your last video
Easy to forget, since balance has always been banned in legacy for as long as the format has existed and even it's predecessor in type 1.5 while white plume is a really fresh card.
Video might have been scripted before the banning
I once used swords to prevent another opponent from dying to the threat by exiling a 20/23 trample...
The fact that he wasnt the threat should say something.
Endless Horizons - Pull every single last plains out of your deck. If your whole deck is plains then you draw two cards a turn. One from your library and one will be a plains. Auto include in any monowhite deck and you don't get to argue with me on this.
Don’t know about yall but sevinne’s reclamation, luminarch aspirant, white plumb adventure should def be on here cathar commando, march of endless joy and citizens crowbar i put in every white deck. Artifact/enchantment removal is so important and not running it can be the difference between a match.
what about Iona, Shield of Emeria?
It's expensive as heck, but you aren't going to hard cast it, ever, you cheat her out and lock opponents of a WHOLE color, and god forbid you play monocolored
there's a reason she's banned in Commander
Balance+ grave betrayal when having no monsters on field…..or monastery monk+vesuvian duplimancy……
What about worship and island sancutary
White Plume Adventurer is the biggest crime, but leaving off Seasoned Dungeoneer feels like a mistake as well.
6:13 oh yeah, target no permanent lands.
This dude rocks
How is Second Sunrise not on this list?
Rest in peace and helm combo gg lol
Solitude is by far a stronger card than rest in peace. Solitude sees play as a 4 of in all formats it's legal in. Honestly, solitude should probably be in the top 3 pushing out mentor.
Agree on solitude being top 3 but it definitely doesn't see play as s 4 of in legacy, decks generally play swords over solitude and only really run solitude as s 1 of or as copies 5-6 of swords
...nope. It definitely doesn't. I know people reducing the game to just Commander are annoying, but completely ignoring the format is pushing too far in the opposite direction, and in that format, it sees play in 2 percent of possible decks.
no path to exille?
no silence, orim's chant, replenish, academy rector, angels grace... and putting swords to plow in the number one spot... Um what?
I'm surprised Grand Abolisher isn't on the list. Maybe it's cause he's easier to remove, being a creature
Replenish? Wrath of God? Armageddon? Enduring Renewal? Land Tax?
What Ive had swords to plowshares for years and never put it in one of my decks and I play mono white.. Giving an opponent any life is so bad what.
Rest In Peace would be nuts in Yugioh. Banishing everything in the graveyards then being a Macro Cosmos sounds like some bullshit Gren Maju or Floo would bend over backwards for.
Wow, that Tragic Arrogance flavor text is sad.
Rest in Peace would also be nuts in Magic if it cost 0. I imagine it would be terrible in Yu-Gi-Oh! If it couldn't be used in the first turn.
Never heard of INvoke elementals.
stoneforge mystic was usually used to pull jitte before it'd be used to fetch batterskull.
No it's not lmao
Did you forget about White Plume Adventurer taking over Legacy and getting ban? He is a better card than Ephomerate Rest in Peace and Prismatic Ending. You even showed the card Solitude and didn’t put it on the list. To be honest, my mind was a little blown to see Rest in Peace and Prismatic Ending. Rest in Peace is arguably the best sideboard card in white but that’s the only argument you got.
"Getting ban"? Did it get unbanned at some point? Because according to Scryfall, it definitely isn't banned right now.
@@ospero7681my apologies I meant to put White Plume Adventurer. I will correct accordingly. Thank you.
Solitude, White Plume Adventurer and arguably Leyline Binding should all be here to be honest.
Rest in Peace is great but it's a sideboard card, I'd also argue Ephemerate probably shouldnt be here either to be honest, maybe even Esper Sentinel
you can´t just leave smothering tithe out of any white most powerfull cards list.
I'm going to say it as it is: white needs more cards that do stuff without being unnecessarily conditional.
Just do good things, no buts, no ifs.
Before a rule change regarding the card, Celestial Dawn made you instantly win in Commander, because the colors of your opponent's deck became illegal to play. All you needed was to cast it on your opponent.
Where’s orims chant
Alternate title: Top 10 Most Versatile White Cards of All Time
Its funny that Monastary Mentor is currently in standard is sees zero play and on this list
Rest In Peace is that card that if someone plays it in Best of 1 in arena, I'm like why.
NOBODY RUNS GRAVEYARD HATE IN BO1
Giver of runes?
Nine lives?
Solemnity?
Where is Tef prot ?
I put "RIP" and "HELM OF OBEDIENCE " My Commander Deck and Target to my Opponent's Library for Depletion .. Another Alternate way for Winning.😅😅
Asking what the most broken White card is is like asking which is the deadliest Super Soaker.
This x1000
In which case Balance is the Super Soaker loaded with mustard gas.
Divine Gambit is pretty deadly...against it's caster.
@@roguebansheedon’t you mean chlorine
no land tax?
White is the only way a player with no money can win against a rich player that spams legendary spells
No Land Tax?
Balance is by far the most broken card in white. Swords may be better, but it's just a 1 for 1 removal spell. A set up balance completely changes the game. There's a reason it's banned everywhere. If you could have 4 you could sculpt your deck to wreck everything all the time.
Stoneforge Mystic to Kaldra Compleat