This should have been discontinued... - M2 MacBook Pro

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  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2023

    Apple and many other companies figured out a long time ago that allowing their customers to easily distinguish between new and old products is a bad idea because then they can't trick people into emptying their old stock.

    • @mihaidragnea9785
      @mihaidragnea9785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Depends on the product. For the ones they want you to upgrade every year and for the "New generations" they want to make it as diffrent as posibile so there is that brag factor.

    • @Jackofafewtrades
      @Jackofafewtrades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@mihaidragnea9785 Apple doesn't use this philosophy for most of their products. Look at the Apple online shop. Apple sells like 3 generations of products at a time, why would they want to convince you that the old one is bad?

    • @CYKuo-yl9lg
      @CYKuo-yl9lg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Tim Cook is one of the best manufacturing managers in the business. That’s why Apple has the lowest time-to-customer in the industry. Since Apple doesn't have much stock, the lockdown in China caused Apple’s recent lead time to increase dramatically.
      So I don't think they are selling the old model just for stock clearance.
      (Sorry for my poor English lol)

    • @aesampah
      @aesampah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Actually, I think they does, why do you think they always launch newer iPhones with similar design but new colors?
      You could argue because it give people more choices, but I personally thinks it just so people could distinguish the old ones and new ones.

    • @Gilamath.
      @Gilamath. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@CYKuo-yl9lg I tend to agree. That said, I think the reason for the M2 MBP is not stock clearance, but manufacturing inertia. Apple has a lot of manufacturers who can make the current MBP chassis and parts
      Apple was able to get this device to customers much faster than the all-new M2 MBA, and are also likely selling the M2 chip at an increased profit margin with the MBP versus the M2 MBA. The current low-end MBP will likely be discontinued once initial costs of changing the MBA design have been paid off and supply lines free up a bit. The M1 MBA will also likely stick around for about the same time. That said, this is informed guessing at best, and Apple has surprised me before

  • @SparkyClark
    @SparkyClark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +724

    My guess is they had a bunch of lower binned M2 chips. Run hotter and need that old chassis active cooling to get full M2 performance. Saving up the top tier chips for the new M2 Air

    • @Bisonrulz16
      @Bisonrulz16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@Sonu666 that isn't a response to this comment... It is plausible that they are using M2 chips that require extra cooling to hit the required performance and are therefore unsuitable for the M2 air and so are being put in a "new" MacBook Pro with active cooling

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Gotta find a way to sucker people into paying full price for garbage hardware.

    • @Superdelphinus
      @Superdelphinus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think they just still must sell a lot of them

    • @martinqizeaq
      @martinqizeaq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      People still buy them like hot cakes. Apple doesn't care. It just the one who buy them is idiot.

    • @Bisonrulz16
      @Bisonrulz16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @coolthingy the third yes that is literally the point. The guy I replied to said something irrelevant and since deleted their comment

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +962

    I still don’t get why Apple bothers with the lower speed SSDs for their products. Just charge more for the base model. It’s not like they’re strangers to expensive electronics.
    Also, nice pride watch band, Anthony.

    • @piranha_lol
      @piranha_lol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      its a common marketing/sale practice to create a sub par version of a product to make the standart model seem more valuable and attractive

    • @antiquehealbot6543
      @antiquehealbot6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      @@tim3172 It's a 'PRO' model dude.

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@tim3172 I don't think that's necessarily true. max tech -- hardly an apple hater -- made some pretty persuasive videos explaining why this is pretty detrimental to even pretty typical use cases. Especially compared to the m1 which was less expensive.

    • @rando3962
      @rando3962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@tim3172 no it actually makes a big diffrence and when you are paying more for that pro name You would expect to get more not less

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@piranha_lol yeah in fact the last couple generations of Samsung flagships is instructive. S 21 and s22 didn't get QHD screens, had pretty dated camera hardware, and the s21 had a plastic screen. In the s20, and most Samsung flagships prior, all of their flagships had a QHD screen and a premium build, fairly modern sensor etc...

  • @novantha1
    @novantha1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I think they avoid yearly naming to give their products some sort of "mystical, timeless" air, even though it really just confuses more technically inclined users. That said, at least it keeps their resale value high for when you want to get the newest version, I suppose

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Resale value is high because Apple OS doesn't work well on non-Apple devices.

    • @andresacosta5318
      @andresacosta5318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But atleast a different model number would be nice

    • @alexanderivanov205
      @alexanderivanov205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "timeless design"
      - Gamer Nexus when talking about Dell desktops

    • @michelvanbriemen3459
      @michelvanbriemen3459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every new model needs recertification.
      Use the old model chassis, you won't need to recertify it.
      Apple must be short on money.

    • @khangvinh4656
      @khangvinh4656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly sad that people are basically more entice to resell their Apple devices than to keep using them since a new model comes out every year. “Made to last” before it is sold again💀.

  • @beliveinurself
    @beliveinurself ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I mean, real reason:
    M2 13" has a fan and longer battery life.
    I have the M1 Pro 13", but these are my thoughts:
    1) I can take it on the road and don't have to charge it as soon as I would any other laptop (apart from the M2 13").
    2) I can play games on my lap, using a custom, but quiet, fan setting, and it never gets warm to the touch.
    3) The only function keys I ever use are brightness and sound, both of which work great on the touchbar.
    4) You can make use of the extra GPU power on the M1 and M2 Pro 13", whereas you cannot on the Air.
    I also have an M1 Max 16", which I somewhat regret purchasing. Excellent machine, but I tend to use my MSI GE67HX for similar workloads.
    I honestly think every mainstream reviewer missed the mark on the M2 Pro 13. I find it almost flawless. I even like the rounded shape when its on my lap, and the black bezels when consuming media.

    • @kaankucuk1612
      @kaankucuk1612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello, I have M2 touchbar MacBook Pro, but do you think to upgrade 14” mbp, does it worth? (I mainly watch movie and listen music)? Thank you

  • @thebahooplamaster
    @thebahooplamaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    I mean on one hand, for me, it’s nice to know that my 2020 intel MacBook Pro doesn’t already look dated

    • @191.
      @191. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I already did when you got it. 😆

    • @ZombieChrist265
      @ZombieChrist265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      But it does though. Compared to the new air and 14 inch pro

    • @verynice4829
      @verynice4829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it

    • @MonicaHolly143
      @MonicaHolly143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      U can say what u want to ur self but intel macbook are trash now

    • @anthemsjam
      @anthemsjam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MonicaHolly143 do you use your Mac in a professional setting lol ? Can you even grasp the performance difference in real world scenarios ?

  • @AlexDahl
    @AlexDahl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I used to work in a staples back in high school and apple has for a long time made it incredibly difficult for anyone to distinguish which model is which. This is particularly annoying if you're a store that carries multiple models.
    We had a few people come back to the store and return iPad models specifically for this reason lol---one of our team members handed them over the wrong year's iPad without knowing the difference.
    EDIT:
    I know that they've always included model numbers on the back of the packaging, but finding which model is which is surprisingly difficult. It's also not always in a standardized location, so it's very confusing. Really they should just work more on their packaging lol. It got so bad to the point that our electronics manager had to spend an afternoon developing an organization system for our backroom stock of them, and basically personally took over making sure they were in the right places so people would avoid handing out the wrong models.

    • @ultraret
      @ultraret 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It literally says model number at 0:43 seconds the labels on the left, Model number is it between the barcodes on the right half of The label. Immediately right of the text saying MacBook Pro 13 inch. You could zoom in if you like. Unfortunately this presenter is always an Apple hater and always exaggerating….. Even if some of it may be well-deserved for Apple’s BS it’s just annoying.

    • @mustafazakiassagaf1757
      @mustafazakiassagaf1757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@ultraret you know that Antony use iPhone and apple watches right? i wouldn't say he's an apple hater

    • @cosminmilitaru9920
      @cosminmilitaru9920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ultraret Antony is not a hater, Apple is annoying af.

    • @User-ik2kc
      @User-ik2kc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mustafazakiassagaf1757 he definitely presents himself in an appel hating way

    • @QualityDoggo
      @QualityDoggo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ultraret you mean the one that says A2338 ? That refers to both the M1 and the M1 models. The "order number" and serial are the only unique identifiers, and the "order" is not listed on-device.

  • @RudeGerbil
    @RudeGerbil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +436

    The 13 inch MacBook Pro (M2) seems to just be a way for Apple to get rid of excess 13 inch chassis… because I doubt “real” professionals still want a touch bar and a smaller, lower refresh rate screen than the 14 inch MacBook Pro.

    • @LockonKubi
      @LockonKubi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@jordank195 fanboys.

    • @arjund.4817
      @arjund.4817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @Nova just had to be homophobic for no reason huh

    • @sentryion3106
      @sentryion3106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@LockonKubi even fanboys should go with the air or straight to the 14. The 13 pro is redundant

    • @hariangr
      @hariangr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jordank195 to create a youtube video about it

    • @grimmnull
      @grimmnull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I mean, I find the touchbar pretty comfy
      Yes, it's not the end of the world if it's missing, but for me it's a nice thing to have.
      This combined with USB-C charging makes it still a good option in my eyes.
      Also yes, I would've totally enjoyed a new design or a better screen if it kept at least the USB-C charging

  • @Merjia
    @Merjia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +467

    I love how desperately Apple is trying to get rid of their stock of touchbar MacBook Pro 13s. 😂 they invested WAY too much in them.

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is all just nonsense dude. This is simply NOT how this world works anymore. Factories don't have like hundreds of thousands of components lying around that then get used in a future product to get rid of them. That is not how it works!

    • @officialANON001
      @officialANON001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I thought the same but it seems like they have kept them around for too long to be just over stock. The 13 inch MacBook Pro is like the second most popular model. So I don’t really know what apple is doing…

    • @officialANON001
      @officialANON001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Maybe it’s because a decent amount of people still want the Touch Bar so they just keep this thing around. I know most people at my job preferred the Touch Bar. Crazy I know.

    • @KrzysztofBob
      @KrzysztofBob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I don’t know. If they wanted to get rid of the old design, wouldn’t it make more sense to put it in the cheapest possible product? Like they did with the regular iPad or iPhone SE. Discontinue M1 MacBook Air, discount M1 pro 13 to $999

    • @ElAndresRodriguez
      @ElAndresRodriguez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@officialANON001 I think it's cause it looks cooler, and not actually more functional tbh. If all I did on my computer was browse the web and watch movies it would be good but then i would probably just get the air.

  • @hanx9970
    @hanx9970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A lot of ways to think about this, I see the reason that people still prefer M2 pro is because of the fans and touch bar, even you dont recognize M1 or M2 from the chassis, but you can definitely tell it is a 13 pro. People also purchasing 13pro because it is special, classic chassis, and they honestly dont care about 720p webcam, however the screen revolution is already awesome and very stable performance in a long run, most of people wouldnt even use macbooks as a speaker anyway, but its sound quality is fantastic, where 14 pro is even better, but Im pretty sure that nobody choose 13pro mainly considering the sound quality. For M1 13pro users, definitely not worth for the upgrade to M2 13pro, but for first Macbook users like me, Id for sure go with the M2 13pro for its uniqueness, and the classic thick chassis with fans is the way to go for long term usage, and I believe that was the main reason Apple had courage to use the same M1 13pro chassis for the M2.

    • @cplova333
      @cplova333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just bought the m2 13pro and its my first ever macbook! So the chassis isnt really "dated" for me as I haven't even experienced it before at all. I can see why everyone on youtube is recommending the m2 air over it for people who are already apple fans, or who want an update. But there are people like you and me who are the outliers who can buy this and still be satisfied.

  • @JemaKnight
    @JemaKnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    If they had called it the "MacBook SE" it would have
    -Fully legitimised the decision to use old hardware
    -Allowed them to keep it in the lineup for a quadrillion years if needed, without looking tacky
    -Made sense relative to the iPhone naming scheme
    -Cleverly and side-winkishly made reference to the Macintosh II/Macintosh SE market positioning. Almost too cleverly assuming the below dot point.
    -Been expected to sell for at LEAST 30% less... Hell, potentially making the Air look like the bad value option in comparison.
    Either way, I reckon if you cancelled the above idea partway through execution due to fears over revenues, it's probably fair to say this is more or less the exact product you'd get out of it.

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's nothing illegal about using old hardware. I'd buy a 2012 Mac Pro if they could stick an M1 in it and update the Mobo to current IO.

  • @thedogbarber
    @thedogbarber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    You guys really need to do a "meet the crew" series where all the members of LTT get interviewed so we can learn about them and they're history....like their past work experience and education. Anthony would make a fascinating start.

    • @R_Forde
      @R_Forde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think they did that on floatplane

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Maybe a video about where they live. Kinda like MTV cribs. They should show us what street they live on, what days they're not home, that sort of thing.

    • @jhkrev3
      @jhkrev3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pirojfmifhghek566 😬

    • @thegiovannimauro
      @thegiovannimauro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pirojfmifhghek566 💀

    • @uvuvwevwevweossaswithglasses
      @uvuvwevwevweossaswithglasses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pirojfmifhghek566 bruh

  • @Dylan-zm3ht
    @Dylan-zm3ht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    They have warehouses full of the parts, or contracts on the books that need to be depleted. Apple is good at supply chain, they won't waste what they have/have committed.

    • @thunderarch5951
      @thunderarch5951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If you have a lot of something bad, and you need to keep selling it despite people complaining about it, you're not good at it, lol

    • @hornplaya
      @hornplaya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@thunderarch5951 you sound like someone who expects things to magically be built and show up on your doorstep without the faintest idea how supply chain actually works.

    • @Chasing-the-outdoors
      @Chasing-the-outdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s why they shouldn’t have released a new model. Just drop the price on the 13” pro

    • @jayasurya4121
      @jayasurya4121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That explains iPhone SE 3

    • @Dylan-zm3ht
      @Dylan-zm3ht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thunderarch5951 Spoken by someone who knows nothing about Demand Planning or SIOP.

  • @aaronschlottman4055
    @aaronschlottman4055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Perhaps the idea behind the M2 was to get the "I don't want to be an early adopter" folks to buy. Save money on the chassis and put in the "second gen" chip.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, but they have always used chassis for multiple generations.

    • @Superdelphinus
      @Superdelphinus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s also in the new air though, which is a new design. It’s just this specific MacBook ‘pro’ that doesn’t make sense.

    • @Psylento
      @Psylento 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Superdelphinus nothing about Apples products make any sense, ever :P

    • @vals9838
      @vals9838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Superdelphinus new Air has garbage notch though. That alone is the sole reason I'm not even considering that device and I don't care how good they are at hiding it with interface adjustments.

    • @nerdkidleo
      @nerdkidleo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I totally agree with that, its like the iPhone SE of Macs. Great chip in an old body. and the Touch Bar is like Touch ID on iPhone 8.

  • @Jan-me2cj
    @Jan-me2cj ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I do love the Touch Bar.. Some apps have convenient widgets. However, the best part is customizing the bar with better touch tools. I use it daily and absolutely love it on my pro m1 2020 :)

  • @utubekullanicisi
    @utubekullanicisi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    8:11 Actually, the 14" MacBook Pro is thinner, if we don't take into account the larger rubber feet. The 14" MBP is only volumetrically larger, as its shape is uniform across the board, whereas the 13" tapers off towards the edges.

  • @briankoski96
    @briankoski96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    For whatever reason, after looking at the updated Air/Pro designs, I decided that I still like the old Pro design and think the Touch Bar is kind of cool, so I bought the 2022 Pro to replace my 2013 Pro, and upgraded to a 512 h/d, with a reasonable discount. I paid about the same for the new one as I did for the 2013 model which has served me well minus screen-gate.

  • @blinkingred
    @blinkingred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love how apple fans have legit never forgotten about mag safe. Keep the hope alive

    • @PaperReaper
      @PaperReaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am not a fan of Apple by any means, but I would agree that magsafe is the best. Like, its a proprietary charger done right. There's a reason Volta has been able to make a fortune off their chargers

    • @iAmTheSquidThing
      @iAmTheSquidThing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MagSafe is quite annoying for all the times it disconnects accidentally. But it's worth it for all the times it saves your laptop's life. I held out years upgrading my MacBook until they finally brought it back.

    • @vladimir_k_bestplayerna1217
      @vladimir_k_bestplayerna1217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't an Apple patent the reason why other laptop manufacturers can't make mag safe charger ports? If so, then god damn, the least that they could do is actually use it. I wish that my laptop had that.

    • @PaperReaper
      @PaperReaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladimir_k_bestplayerna1217 Apple and Microsoft have patented the hell of the magnetic connector designs. It's almost impossible to make another connector like that now + none license the tech anyway

    • @metalinsights9664
      @metalinsights9664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MagSafe was one of Apple's most useful innovations. I couldn't believe when I learned that they got rid of it for a while.

  • @adrien8613
    @adrien8613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I love that brand, such a good brand name too. "brand", short and clear, perfect.
    (you forgot to insert the brand name in the chapter for the sponsor, or the D, I don't know)

    • @Bob_Bobstien
      @Bob_Bobstien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      At this point I'm not sure if it's an error or them messing with dBrand, given the relationship they have with LTT

    • @HentaiNat
      @HentaiNat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which brand? D brand

    • @Frank72364
      @Frank72364 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HentaiNat Apple

  • @maxwang7937
    @maxwang7937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WellI think the M2 MBP is here due to the price raise of M2 MB Air. In some markets a M2 MBP is even cheaper than M2 MBA at the same spec, which makes it more compelling than the air. You do lose the magsafe, but also get a cooler machine and longer battery life in return, which is fair trade.

  • @SeanRosairo
    @SeanRosairo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I do miss the touchbar on my M1 pro 14 inch I am surprised how much I missed it for music apps and also adjusting brush sizes in Affinity apps, it was so useful for preview and scrubbing for video. I Like Anthony's idea of the half height F keys with the touchbar.

  • @utubekullanicisi
    @utubekullanicisi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the main reason they're still continuing to sell a cheaper MacBook Pro despite a lot of people's insistence that 'MacBook Pro' shouldn't be anything other than a high-end, actual pro product, is that the 'Pro' moniker sells MBPs to a lot of people. Ever since they rebranded the aluminum 13" MacBook to 'MacBook Pro' in 2009 they've been doing this. Close to that $1300 price point, a lot of people are looking for something that is more than a MacBook Air, but not as expensive as the "real" MacBook Pros, and this model is there to fill that gap. But, if they're going to keep this cheaper and smaller MacBook Pro model around, I just hope they carry it to the new modern 14" MBP design as soon as possible.
    In the past, the way they differentiated the cheaper MBP to the high-end model and the way they kept the BoM cost of that model down, is by giving the cheaper model a slightly worsse screen, a little bit lesser speakers, 1 fan instead of 2 fans and *no* side vents for extra cooling capacity, and therefore a slightly lower power processor from Intel, and less ports. In that same way, they could take the 14" MacBook Pro, give it 4 speakers instead of 6 (like the new MacBook Air), give it M2 (which is already super powerful for a lot of people, and is a very good sweet spot for lower-end MacBooks) instead of M2 Pro/Max, take away the side vent cutouts, give it only one of the new quieter and more efficient fans of the 14" instead of 2, give it a 'Liquid Retina' display of the same size at 60Hz instead of the 'Liquid Retina XDR' HDR miniLED VRR panel of the higher-end 14", and you got the perfect cut-down MacBook Pro in your hands.
    Apple could make the low-end MacBook Pro a great value computer if they wanted to, and I hope they do and they do it as soon as possible, and this 13" MBP with Touch Bar will be the last one. Especially being able to get that huge 70WHr battery of the 14" with an M2 instead of M2 Pro/Max would give it incredible battery life, perhaps getting closer to 30 hours of video playback. And I doubt it would cut into the sales of the higher-end model more than the current 13" MBP does, as the 14" would still have the selling points of having a 2-4x faster processor, a 120Hz variable refresh HDR display, and higher dynamic range speakers.

  • @kingofeternity7091
    @kingofeternity7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really love the Touchbar , it is somewhat useful in Photoshop , but once you get used to keyboard shortcuts the touchbar is actually useless. I do find it quite comfortable to be able to control Spotify and have my own shortcuts. I think Touchbar is really useful if you actually customise it to suit you. Which is something many people here probably haven’t tried.

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've found that it's a bit less stressful to memorize the ubiquitous shortcuts. I want to be able to hop from one computer to the next knowing how everything ticks, without having to go all-out and customize my keyboard just to avoid feeling irritated.

    • @sonofage
      @sonofage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pirojfmifhghek566 hey same here. The only place that doesn't work out the box is Linux as you would need something like wine or crossover (same group) to have Photoshop on it.

  • @michaelt5459
    @michaelt5459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    “If it shoots out of your hand, it’s not Dbrand” is what Anthony should have said lol.

    • @bartt7425
      @bartt7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL!!!

    • @darrenfalconer3267
      @darrenfalconer3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bartt7425 but the one he was using was dbrand just a slick one so it wouldnt make sense

  • @jensh.2595
    @jensh.2595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Got the M1 Air base model 3months ago for under 1000€ and monitoring memory swap (not using chrome) this is by far still the best deal if the M2 Air should have the same single 256GB memory.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suspect the Air is delayed due to NAND shortages, one of Apple's suppliers was off-line for a while.

    • @cimkep8250
      @cimkep8250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the memory doing? Has it written much data yet?

  • @jkedel
    @jkedel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the one thing no one talks about is the 13" touch bar pro M2 has way better keyboard travel than all of the airs (outside of the touch bar). i compared it to multiple M1 airs and M2 airs and the keyboards on those feel so flimsy (yes, even though they still have some travel), but on the 13" touch bar pro M2, dare i say, the travel feels even better than the 14"/16". it feels so chunky and satisfying
    i wish there wasn't the touch bar but the rest of the keys feel so good on it. build quality is also way better compared to the M2 air which felt like i was gonna break it constantly, and IMO it honestly feels more premium than the 14" pro which has a really hollow feel to the chassis despite being really heavy
    also, hot take, the screen on this is way better than mini-LED, it actually has good response times and no blooming, the colors also look more vibrant/uniform to my eyes and text is WAY easier to read on the 13" touch bar MBP compared to the 14" mini-LED MBPs
    (on mini-LED, local dimming is so annoying for non-video use, it makes it look like text and icons are glowing and even disabling HDR doesn't turn local dimming off)
    yes, touch bar MBP only has 60hz but black levels are awesome for IPS and there is basically no backlight bleed
    it also has a better screen than M1 air since that one had really meh black levels and washed out looking whites. a lot of people think M1 air and touch bar MBP have the "same" panel (because they are both IPS) but they look very different. yes, true tone was off.
    M1 air had typical "bad IPS black levels", but the touch bar pro M2 actually surprised me with how deep the blacks are. as for the M2 air, backlight also felt weird IMO - colors looked a bit off on it and I noticed RGB fringing/"rainbowy effect". so the touch bar MBP wins :)
    the 13" touch bar pro M2 feels like apple's biggest secret because it actually does a lot of things all-around better in the long run, despite its easy to point out flaws
    you can also get refurbished with actually good specs for a pretty reasonable price right now, this weird little laptop makes a lot more sense now than it did when it released

  • @electricmiragemedia
    @electricmiragemedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am still lukewarm on the ARM Macs for two reasons: no windows bootcamp for games, and the notch.
    When these are addressed, I think these will be much better value propositions

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I know it sounds cliche, but honestly you stop seeing it after a while, like your brain gets selective blindness to it. Pair with a dark wallpaper and dark mode and it's pretty much invisible even if you're looking for it.

    • @electricmiragemedia
      @electricmiragemedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@W1ldTangent I don't disbelieve you, but my brain can be a real stubborn asshole sometimes. Other people see a notch, I see a middle finger from the design team 😅

    • @iAmTheSquidThing
      @iAmTheSquidThing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought "eugghh" when I first saw the notch. But now I have a MacBook with a notch, and honestly I don't even notice it. It just blends into the menubar. And if you black out the menubar (which is the default for full-screen windows anyway) the notch becomes completely invisible.

    • @bastienx8
      @bastienx8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even if bootcamp was available you still couldn't play most of the games on it because none of them are compatible with the arm architecture, and windows arm has a poor emulator for x86 apps

    • @Juanguar
      @Juanguar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bastienx8 you’d be right if it was 2020
      Windows on arm has gotten a lot better in x86 emulation and it also gained x64 emulation

  • @rsurish377
    @rsurish377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like having Anthony on Mac stuff is like having Davinci unbox a wheel.

  • @walking_on_earth
    @walking_on_earth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This has got to be the sassiest Anthony I've ever seen

  • @iali00
    @iali00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they would've made the screen a little larger like the past 16in MacBook Pro by reducing those bezels to make it a 13.6in or 14in. Also a 1080p webcam should've been inserted for us remote worker. I don't like the thickness of the new MacBook Pros.

  • @IgnacioParravicini
    @IgnacioParravicini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Please keep Anthony reviewing apple pc, I love to have somebody to hate it with us ..

    • @yeepsleep
      @yeepsleep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't mean to disturb your hate boner but in case you weren't aware Anthony has been a big fan of most of the recent Macs.

  • @Piketom1
    @Piketom1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Almost no one should buy the 13” pro. If you wouldn’t upgrade the system memory then just stick with the air. If you do need the upgraded RAM, then just get the 14” pro. It’s not that much more expensive and is completely worth it.

  • @SMASHINGblargharghar
    @SMASHINGblargharghar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I seriously love the relationship between LTT and dbrand. It never gets old

  • @benlu
    @benlu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    20hr battery life is amazing, people forget the purpose of laptops is to use them away from power points, reviews should really emphasize this more cause it's such an overlooked part of the industry

  • @zekezekeish
    @zekezekeish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The musty smell is real! At least at europe, I’ve experienced that few with few laptops and chargers within 3 years

  • @daRock789
    @daRock789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    System Preferences>Keyboard>TouchBar shows (Dropdown) Choose expanded control strip.
    Then you can get the almost fuction key.
    This was done on my Macboom Pro 16inch 2019

  • @ryana6961
    @ryana6961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hey Anthony, I'm not sure whether it'd more appropriate for this channel or on the main LTT one, but could you do a video on the progress Asahi Linux has made with getting things working on the M1? I've looked into it myself and it seems pretty promising, but I think your expertise here would be cool to see in a video.

    • @__Ben
      @__Ben 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I dunno if it's really appropriate for any of their channels (other than maybe brief updates on TechLinked) until it has most things working including GPU acceleration.

  • @Jazzamonroe
    @Jazzamonroe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    YES THEY SMELL THANK YOU! I had to replace my type c cable for my MacBook Pro recently. Got one from Amazon and it smelled awful to me. Like mold almost. I could smell it from sever feet away as well. Returned and got another one. Also smelled. Went to target to get one instead and it smelled as well so I gave up. My best friend didn’t notice an issue. Thought I was crazy.

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      did you try several arms or fingers away? or other body parts? that might help.

    • @gigihanmandarin
      @gigihanmandarin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You returned it just because of its smell?!Just air it out for some time and you will be set.

    • @Jazzamonroe
      @Jazzamonroe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gigihanmandarin the first one also just didn’t work lol. it’s been a week and still smells btw. But less so. It will go away eventually I’m sure but the smell was really offensive to me so it was worth trying to exchange it.

    • @brostenen
      @brostenen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That smell have been on so much from China the last 8 years or more. It smell like the warehouse were flooded with river water, mixed with cow shit and left the dry before it was sold through eBay.

    • @brostenen
      @brostenen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gigihanmandarin I have returned so much from china the last 8 years, that I can not keep track on it. It is a foul smell that are impossible to distract from.

  • @HwL01
    @HwL01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tbh despite being older 720p webcam it still looks way better than many other laptops webcams in 2022.

  • @BenjaminWeeb
    @BenjaminWeeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I dont mind apple trying to clear out their stock, but put "M2" on the freaking box.

  • @jas_bataille
    @jas_bataille 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I said it when the M1 came out, and I'll say it again : I wasn't interested in the M2 because I had the serious feeling it was gonna be a fail. You don't score something like the M1 twice, and pretty much all of its shortcomings have easy solutions... only one screen? Nope, since day 1, a powered TB to dual display port adapter is all you need. Not enough space for data? You can get a 1gp/s 500gb external NVME with a 20gb/s enclosure from Vantec (top stuff!) for a total of 115 CAD on a good Amazon day. I run my data 100% external and only use 90gb for OS and apps. It's blazing fast to say the least. I have close to 12 different USB peripherals connected to it every other day - OK : it's extreme, and I could fry an egg on my Call digit dongle, but I hadn't run into a failure os USB connection issue in about 6 months of everyday use! Sure a tower is better - and now I have one since the marked cooled down - but this was a legit pro desktop replacement for over a year for me as a pro AV tech!
    Base config Macbook pro - just because I fancied the touch bar to play little pads on Logic Pro, and navigate my timeline otherwise, not necessary at all. Absolutely not interested in either a super-big thick laptop with no ethernet and even more power (that genuinely very very few people need in a laptop...) that will break my back, OR a botched-up 2dn take. Apple tried to fix what wasn't broken, and failed.

    • @a3-radio
      @a3-radio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is a weird comment, when the m1 came out you boldly express that the future m2 was already a failure? XD
      Also... What do you mean they tried to fix what it ain't broke? They didn't try to fix a thing, they came out with s refresh chip, were you expecting them to introduce a brand new architecture only 2 years into the product so all companies would stop developing for the older one and brick all m1 in 3 years? Or that they didn't bother updating and keep the same chip for 7 years until they could do something revolutionary again while never pushing the current platform to the limit while at the same time staying behind the competition if they don't refresh?
      It fascinates me that a refresh product that is better than the old one while not breaking the old one technology causes you trouble... There is 0 reason for you to upgrade to a m2 if you have an m1, but there is 0 reason for apple not to continue to improve their architecture... Are you saying its a failure because there is no need to upgrade a 2 year old computer already? Are you used to running your laptops that short of a time? My current daily its 6 years old and the previous one lasted me 8 years you don't go changing your laptop everytime there is a new processor your wait knowing the one you have will keep working
      I don't understand your rant it almost feels like you are mad you have a previous version and are trying to convince yourself to not upgrade it xD

    • @villanousspyder405
      @villanousspyder405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to that logic all overweight people have broken backs.You're reaching. 5-6ibs isn't that heavy.

    • @frostybe3r
      @frostybe3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t read any of this random rant.

  • @majoryoshi
    @majoryoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When I say this I wanna make it clear that for the 8ish months I used a Mac I absolutely hated it and sold it in lieu of Framework. That being said, I feel like part of the reason why someone might get an M2 instead of an M1 was because of, when the M1 came out, it was the first of its kind. Think of Ryzen 1000 or 12th gen Intel. Think of the first lineup of RTX cards. You had the early adopter's fee and was using a new and fairly untested platform with unknown bugs. When you're using your machine for work you don't want early adopter's issues creeping in. Sure you don't get the performance of M1 Pro or anything like that, but iirc Apple was never aiming to match M1 Pro or higher. They were planning on iterating on top of M1. That they did successfully. I think that's part of the issue a lot of reviewers have an issue handling: the long term viability of a brand new architecture and the teething issues that came with it. As someone who was an early adopter of Windows 11 when it came out, I had to switch off of Windows 11 because of stability issues (my laptop completely locked up on me in the middle of a final requiring me to restart and possibly start over). In that sense I would've gone with a dead-end Intel MacBook instead of an M1 for the sole reason it's been tried and true, even if it has some thermal issues plaguing it.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Apple Silicon is just at the start of its journey and def not for everyone at this stage of development. If you just need specific apps, like me, that have native support then the M1 Macs were great. At the time, late 2020, battery life twice the competition, no heat, no fan noise, fast and smooth. Intel has had to respond and the 11th and 12th gen have improved where they were when the M1 was released, and W11 is much better. The M2 is a M1+ due to the delay in 3nm, but I feel is better than the M1 in nearly all metrics.

  • @HaikuOezu
    @HaikuOezu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    FINALLY! Someone points out you can drag the volume/brightness icon to instantly change the slider value on the Touch Bar

    • @SmokedHam444
      @SmokedHam444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also see so many people complaining about some of the buttons, like the siri shortcut, being useless. Except they don’t realise you can customise the touchbar. You can also set the function keys as default if you prefer that, tho they are still soft keys

    • @davide4725
      @davide4725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      'iNsTaNt'

    • @HaikuOezu
      @HaikuOezu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokedHam444 yeah it’s never not gonna be weird that they’re not physical buttons you can feel with your fingers
      Personally I never used function keys so the idea of having this super flexible layout that changed with context and preference was still good, especially after they moved the escape key back to being physical

    • @SmokedHam444
      @SmokedHam444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HaikuOezu Yeah agreed, I also like the touchbar functionality. I never use the actual Function key stuff like f1 f2 etc but sometimes it is nice to have some tactile feedback or adjust audio without looking. My main gripe is that it (still!!) tends to be quite buggy. The perfect but redundant scenario would be to have both keys and touchbar

  • @Hapikern
    @Hapikern 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Macbook "Pro" 13 was never a Pro product, it has the same hardware as a Macbook Air but in a bigger chassis and more expensive. It's not worth it.
    If they wanted to get rid of their old touchbar chassis they could have used the M1 Pro chip and charge USD150.00 less than the 14 inch Macbook Pro. That could have been a winner!

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It doesn't have the same hardware; bigger battery, different keyboard, more microphones. Whether it's a pro product is obviously subjective.

    • @eulehund99
      @eulehund99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a Pro product for the fact alone that it does have a fan

  • @kuso7558
    @kuso7558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I personally appreciate the touchbar and dont mind many of the shortcomings of the old design.

  • @OurFantasyLife
    @OurFantasyLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For people like me, who still love the Touch Bar, this is the perfect upgrade. If you want the 14" MBP...just go buy that, since it's still on the shelf and still technically outperforms the M2.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👆👆📥📥🎁💯💯🎁📦📦

  • @yop03
    @yop03 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Do keep in mind that the ssd is also slower compared to the old mbp m1.

    • @somerandomchannel382
      @somerandomchannel382 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      such a apple thing, they create something extremely useful with m1, and then release the new version without checking if its better or not, which seems to be worse tbh

    • @shaungreer3350
      @shaungreer3350 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even if it wasn’t id still just get the m1. Realistically most of us won’t see much of a difference

    • @errrzarrr
      @errrzarrr ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @dutyrover946
      @dutyrover946 ปีที่แล้ว

      already proven by real non biased non sensational reviewers that the speed doesnt actually matter in any task, any program, any settings, except for programs designed to test ssd speeds. Anyone with a brain knows two ssd's in RAID means it's faster but that probably means you'll load into Mac OS 0.1 seconds faster or loading a program 0.00001 seconds faster ☠ the reason real world performance is the same is because of heat. You will never have the cooling capacity to cool two ssd's in a laptop to run without down clocking. The ssd does not matter people. Its not the SSD the determines how fast programs or OS loads its what the OS and programs determine. Read a book pls

    • @shaungreer3350
      @shaungreer3350 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dutyrover946 honestly as long as it loads quickly enough i don’t think many of us could give a shit about the ssd lmao

  • @Victor-is3ds
    @Victor-is3ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I personally find the 13" M1 MacBook Pro and Air prettier than the newer models. I would go as far as saying they are/were peak Apple. Sleek and minimalistic. There's just something about this new dark plastic keyboard surface and "fat" design that I find aesthetically unpleasing. Just my taste, but maybe I'm not the only one.

    • @DerDudelino
      @DerDudelino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, hate the new design - just give us the M1 Max in the old 16 inch chassis and it will sell like hotcake.

    • @chuaskh
      @chuaskh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fugly hollow empty and like any other non apple model. Zero premium feel af!

    • @chuaskh
      @chuaskh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just realised the current tech reviewers aren’t Steve Jobs or Jony Ives standards… just specs and price . Just overly 2 dimensional thinking.

    • @jostafro4967
      @jostafro4967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree

  • @arcadeguyceej6805
    @arcadeguyceej6805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Eight gigs of ram in what's supposed to be one of the most premium products on the market?
    Wild.

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah damn my phone has more RAM than that.

    • @demetter7936
      @demetter7936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a product to do intensive tasks on, its a product you give your Grandma for christmas. 8gb of ram is completely fine.

    • @Jaymiecain1
      @Jaymiecain1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@demetter7936 you give your grandma a $1299 laptop as a gift? I'll be your grandma.

    • @demetter7936
      @demetter7936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jaymiecain1 Not personally but that's the market. Boomers.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demetter7936 I'm not broke by any means but for my mother(all my grandmothers have long since passed) in her early 70's I got her a Nokia T20 Android tablet as she is use to Android on her phone, and paired it with a Logitech K480 keyboard, it's been fantastic for $180, plus the $25 I paid for a used K480, so much so I just ordered myself a Nokia T20 Tablet to replace my old ONN tablet. I just don't see the point in paying Apple prices unless you are going to be doing serious work, as even a 1/2 decent specced Android tablet can handle the daily task that most people are doing, even light to medium loads of office work with Google Docs/Sheets/etc.. as I've done with my ONN 10.1in tablet with only 3GB of RAM.

  • @divyam._.maheshwari
    @divyam._.maheshwari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh those be Dbrand's creative sponsor segments...

  • @livelongandtroll9108
    @livelongandtroll9108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thank you, Apple, for giving me no reason to upgrade my M1.
    I approve of this new (old) direction.
    Hope you screw up the M2 Max too, so I can happily buy the M1 Max disconted and not miss a thing.

    • @elith6930
      @elith6930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Discounted? From where?

    • @livelongandtroll9108
      @livelongandtroll9108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@elith6930 When the M2 Max is released the M1 Max will be discounted. That's how things are.

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What nonsense is this? The M2 is not "screwed". The chip itself is great.
      But the point is Apple never planned on make people upgrade from the M1. Heck that is even why they're still selling the M1 MBA.

    • @villanousspyder405
      @villanousspyder405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Raja995mh33 Allot of companies still sell their old products after a new one comes out...

    • @Superdelphinus
      @Superdelphinus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a (14”) MacBook Pro and I don’t think I’ll need to upgrade again until m5 or 6, definitely not every year. I mainly use it for music production and it barely can be arsed to break a sweat at almost anything I throw at it, including some relatively heavy photoshop and da Vinci stuff. I still haven’t heard its fans lol. I’m not sure why you’d need an m2 pro if you already have an m1 pro - what is it pushing up against from a performance perspective?

  • @opodeldox
    @opodeldox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This thing is a bridge from the MacBook Air to the 14" MacBook Pro. You need more power than the Air? You go to this which is a little more expensive but a crappy deal, so you take the 14" which again is just a little more expensive. This is how you upsell twice or one machine.

  • @TheRaid98
    @TheRaid98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At first, I was a tad bit upset about having missed getting an M2 because I assumed it was better but I had already purchased my M1. Super glad I didn't get an M2 because my M1 has been GREAT.

    • @Snoop_Dugg
      @Snoop_Dugg ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you say it's still worth getting the M1 Macbook Pro (16inch) if there are rumours about the M2 coming in a few months?

    • @logang1470
      @logang1470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Snoop_Dugg I have the 16 inch m1 and it’s the best laptop I’ve ever owned.. I’d still wait just in case though

  • @rocketsurgeon1349
    @rocketsurgeon1349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like MKBHD said, Enterprise. Big companies were employees can choose between MBP 13" and some Dell/HP laptop. They usually only have a couple of approved models to choose from and it's a lenghty process to add/remove totally new models but switching to the direct successor is much faster and easier.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👆👆📥📥🎁💯💯🎁📦📦

  • @nich6089
    @nich6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love my Touch Bar. I hope they offer an M2 Max or M2 Pro version with a Touch Bar. I honestly never do any thing where I need my function keys that second for something that wasn’t already mapped to the Touch Bar.

  • @hxctalent
    @hxctalent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After purchasing, using for a week alongside my 2016 MBP; I had returned the 2022 M2 MBP. It was equal other than computing power while streaming. The speakers have a DEFINITE downgrade from 2016 which is SUPER sad. And the touchbar is very useless. There needs to be a touchbarless MBP.

  • @adokapo
    @adokapo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This M2 chip should have been called M1+ or S. Both Air and Pro are minor upgrades. We at least got new design for Air but that price jump isn't justified by anything we got this year. Really underwhelming.

  • @shmeaf
    @shmeaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically if you don't care about your speed, buy something cheaper, or buy this and use it like a chromebook. Tbh the 13 inch macbook pro runs fine. idk what the downfall is because i don't go for the finer details, if it looks good, runs well, edits decent, you can use it.

    • @shmeaf
      @shmeaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And being my first Macbook pro, I dont see a need to upgrade for a few years XD.

  • @jannikmeissner
    @jannikmeissner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In Europe, the 16GB version of the 13 and 14" cost almost the same, so here I am scratching my head even more what the new 13" M2 MacBook Pro even exists....

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the same with the M1 MB Pro 13, if you spec it 512GB/16GB it is only £250 short of the M1 MB Pro 14 with the same config. Not sure why this is important when it has always been that way. What Apple has in fact done is rather than run with the M1 (first version of Apple Silicon) for another year whilst they wait for 3nm, they have improved what did not work as well on their first go. Why people would complain about this or not want a much improved version seems almost agenda-driven? Anyway for the people that want to know there has been a lot of improvements, maybe not ones that fit on the box, but stuff that makes the M2 better than the M1 equivalent and def worth Apple doing this.

    • @grokknar
      @grokknar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It exists purely as a psychological device to increase sales of the better (more expensive) models. Most manufacturers do it. If ever there's a device that you look at and go "I may as well get that one" you've been got.

  • @everydaycommentator6036
    @everydaycommentator6036 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was probably the same in other videos, but I didn't notice till this video that right after unboxing and powering up the machine, it has a LTT account, so they had already checked it out and were unboxing it again for the video.

  • @3X3-n3j
    @3X3-n3j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I think the whole reason if the M2 MacBook Pro (I’ma call it M2 pro) was released was to essentially get rid of it once and for all, given the fact that the prices have risen the gap between the M1 pro chip models and the base air (M2) is a lot closer now, and for quite some time the M2 pro based laptops were starting to make less and less sense.
    I think they intentionally (and hopefully) kneecapped the performance of the M2 pro to make the other products (M2 air and M1 pro/max) have a greater share and as a result more resources available for fewer products.
    I’m praying for the M2 Air to not follow the pro but at this point it’s looking a lot like it

    • @xXlURMOMlXx
      @xXlURMOMlXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hopefully they kneecapped it? That's such a bad take

    • @3X3-n3j
      @3X3-n3j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xXlURMOMlXx picture it like this- why would they intentionally release the MacBook Pro in such a state, an old design, no or minor changes- it looks like a product to shift dead or old parts/stock.
      I think they made the pro so bad to force people to move to more mainstream products-
      1. A more expensive M1 pro MacBook Pro
      2. A MacBook Air which is better in the majority of ways currently and is more mainstream.
      If you think, the pro dosent make sense unless you are trying to get rid of old parts and cut off a lineup to reduce the spread of parts required.
      How is it a bad take? Lack of actual criticism much?

    • @xXlURMOMlXx
      @xXlURMOMlXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@3X3-n3j i don't even like Macs but hoping they kneecap something is a.dumb take why would you hope that? It's obvious they want to get rid of old stock but reusing designs year after year is apples forte idk why anyone is suprised. Iphones have been basically the same for the past 3 generations. Even the most 2 recent iPhones use the same processor. Apple is good at maintaining a walled garden ecosystem and quality, but definitely not innovation. The most innovative thing they've done since the original iPhone is add a magnet to the back of their phones lol

    • @3X3-n3j
      @3X3-n3j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xXlURMOMlXx I’m mainly going to focus on the “kneecapping” bit.
      Out of the entire MacBook range the air is the most sold followed by the M1 Pro/Max MacBooks with the M2 pro dead last. They put 1 nand chips in the M2 pro MacBook along with the outdated design to shift off any old dead stock and to reserve the 2 nand Ssds for the Air. Why? Because the air is the most sold. By me saying kneecap I’m saying they intentionally didn’t put the best available components in it. Why? Don’t really know, but one reason could be the fact that there is a global chip shortage and 1 ssd is cheaper than 2 Ssd.
      Regarding design, yeah apple isn’t revolutionary in that department at all, but I appreciate when they do change the design because when they do it’s good.
      Plus how have other companies innovated in the laptop/phone space recently and have made it a mainstream product. Because from my point of view apple dosent do it because there is a high risk mid reward, and it being a company which is kinda lazy until there is something obvious that’s in their reach (ARM computer chips) they won’t do it.

  • @benlu
    @benlu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know you can customise the touch bar right? Like if you want the function row by default you can, if you want a button to mute your mic you can. The main complaint is around tactile feel and software, not versatility

  • @mjrc123
    @mjrc123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I usually love Anthony’s videos, but feel as though this was a bit pointless. When else have LTT ever done a full comparison review if a laptop and the same laptop with a spec bump? What was the point of comparing microphones, webcams and speakers in 2 essentially identical laptops? It has a faster processor. That is basically the only difference. And they are still selling this product for 2 reasons.
    1. Because people still want them.
    2. Because they have parts to use up.
    I don’t know why Apple should get a hard time for making a computer that people want. Yes sure, people more technically literate would always go for either the air or the 14” Pro, but I know a million students/parents/grandparents who literally couldn’t care and want to buy a Pro because of the name and the history of MacBook Pro’s being great. I imagine that 90% of people buying these M2 Pros had a Pro of an older generation before.
    There are plenty of reasons to give Apple crap over their decision making, but I don’t think this is one of them.

  • @dngaming420
    @dngaming420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just want to point out for Anthony, you can adjust the touch bar to always be the f row and holding fn will switch between f row and touch bar

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👆👆📥📥🎁💯🎁📦📦

  • @daftrok
    @daftrok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Macbook Air is $100 less but has a worse GPU (8 vs 10), no active cooling, 10% smaller battery, half speed slower charger and a hideous notch. The Air has a better webcam and speakers and weighs 0.3 pounds less, but to me I would pick the one with a larger battery, faster charger and better sustained performance.

    • @Juanguar
      @Juanguar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly this
      No one mentions that if you want 10 core gpu on air it becomes 200$ more than the pro

    • @Georgekartveli
      @Georgekartveli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Juanguar No it's not. The 1499 version has a 512GB SSD. If you configure the 256 to have 10 cores, it is the same price as the pro. In fact configured the same way, they cost the same across the board. You get faster charging, newer design, larger screen, better camera and guess what you can charge it and still have two working ports. Not the case for the pro. Pro has only two advantages: cooling and battery. If you need sustained better performance where you will significantly benefit from more power, get the 14 inch. By the time you spec the 13 inch to be a decent spec with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD or above the gap is 300 at MSRP. And they can be had for 200 off MSRP at BestBuy already (the only US store I checked, maybe better deals are available somewhere). So just pay 100 extra and get the 14 inch that will be faster. The battery? I guess. But at the end of the day with the Air having fast charging I'd expect you to be able to charge it up pretty quick throughout the day and get more juice from it.

    • @daftrok
      @daftrok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Georgekartveli Not if my budget is under $1500. I did not know about the $100 upgrade on the air to get the 10 core gpu and saw that for $20 more you can get the proper charger so that does help, but no active cooling, smaller battery and notch are still deal breakers for me. I absolutely hate the notch design on these laptops and would have rather they kept the 720p web cams (i rarely use it anyways).

    • @Xevos701
      @Xevos701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Air has a better display with 1 B colours

  • @Mainyehc
    @Mainyehc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The whole model number thing doesn’t make any sense. The venerable A1278 (the non-Retina 13’’ MacBook Pro) never changed its model number throughout its insane 7-year-long production run but still underwent *significant* internal changes, to the point that the chassis are not all interchangeable and many components, such as SATA cables, aren’t, either, owing to subtle logic board layout rearrangements. You can only identify a Mac model generation by looking at its ID, i.e, the “MacBookProX,X” string, or at its SKU code on the box.
    And this can actually be beneficial for procurement of the parts that *are* indeed interchangeable, and for organizing repair guides and whatnot. It’s much easier to keep track of the exceptions and order machines by year of release, than to keep track of a profusion of different model numbers. I speak from experience, as trying to buy hinges and a display back for an ASUS was an absolute nightmare, as they’d have different model numbers even based on region, just because they had a different keyboard, whereas an A1278 was *always* an A1278 for stuff such as trackpads, MagSafe connectors, fans, bottom covers, hinge covers, batteries (or at least there were just two models and are, IIRC, interchangeable), etc.

  • @jackblackwhole
    @jackblackwhole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    well, the 13 inch m1 pro has been great for me, and for occasional lightroom and photoshop the fans do come handy more than one occasions. To me the extra performance come out of the max model only benefit people in the professional field who requires the extra gpu/cpu cores and storage space. The catch is in their use case, most would go for the much higher specs which cost significantly more than the speced out m1 pro models.

    • @erubielalanis6658
      @erubielalanis6658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got the base model 14 inch because I wanted 16gb of ram and 512 gb ssd, By the time I upgraded those features the leap in price to the 14" was small. The XDR display on the 14" alone is worth the difference not to mention it comes with the M1 Pro. I like that I can run some games on it, I play Tomb Raider and Firewatch on it.

    • @jackblackwhole
      @jackblackwhole 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erubielalanis6658 nice! personally I don’t play games on work laptops. For me though the 32gb ram with 2tb model makes more sense as no future upgradability in MacBooks. I have a powerful desktop, if mac is my only machine i would go this route. But everyone’s use case is different.

  • @theperfguy
    @theperfguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The physical Function key is a personal choice.
    Some people like touching physical keys instead of capacitative screens.
    If you want it and you are paying money for it. That is reason enough, doesn't matter how wondrous touch bar is.

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should do a full keyboard like that. Just develop something nice for the feedback so that it feels more like touching actual keys. Could save some space & offer even slimmer products.

  • @johnathanphillips4417
    @johnathanphillips4417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you've got a design that works it never really becomes obsolete. I mean this in a general sense, not really about the MacBook here. The aesthetic of a device doesn't have to be redone with every release if it's abilities, both functional and aesthetic, were nailed the first time. What I'm saying is, our society seems to think that in order for something to be new and improved in the inside, it's has to look differently on the outside as well. Function ≠ cosmetics but I do understand where each are important. I can't recall the exact name for this concept, but the idea is perceived as cosmetic obsolescence.

  • @User-ik2kc
    @User-ik2kc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The audio is by far not the same on those 13's.

  • @mutedmutiny9542
    @mutedmutiny9542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    One of the most baffling products they have ever released, and so confusing since almost every other laptop they have made in that last two years has been awesome and exactly what their fans have wanted. I love my 14” MBP, but I don’t understand why they made this either.

    • @rudysal1429
      @rudysal1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      haha it's pretty similar to all their over priced laptops. one of the main reasons I haven't bought one since college 10 years ago.

    • @mutedmutiny9542
      @mutedmutiny9542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rudysal1429 no, that's not a fair assessment at all. Both the new 14 & 16" MBP's and the new MBA are all getting great reviews and praise, while this new M2 MBP is getting poor reviews showing it to actually be SLOWER than the M1 version. Yes their products are more expensive but no one else prioritizes design like apple does and some people care about that and are willing to pay a premium for it. Saying this is just like the others is not accurate.

    • @rudysal1429
      @rudysal1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mutedmutiny9542 paying a premium for design instead of prioritizing functionality is the main problem with their platform. Of course if you are not a power user and just need a computer to browse the web and a few other tasks than any computer will do. Might as well pay the same price for a Ferrari but with a Volkswagen engine.

    • @mutedmutiny9542
      @mutedmutiny9542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rudysal1429 that would be a compelling argument if they really weren’t functional, but can you honestly tell me that outside of this M2 MBP, that their other machines aren’t capable of doing what their customers need them to do?

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mutedmutiny9542 Yes, I can honestly say any machine that comes with Windows cannot do what I want a computer to do.

  • @brandonroebuck504
    @brandonroebuck504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as someone who does a lot of audio work but hardly any video work, its nice to have the active cooling and i saved $400 over the 14 inch similarly spec'd
    i upgraded from a 2015 macbook pro and i would've bought an m1 if it was new, but the m2 was fine
    is it the best? no, its it perfectly addequate for me? yes

  • @Xenthera
    @Xenthera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I guess I’m one of the few who like the touchbar. Once they added the physical escape button it became perfect to me.
    Not a fan of the new thiccbooks with raccoon face keyboards.

    • @GregDeocampoogle
      @GregDeocampoogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i also like the touchbar. i also liked the soft keys on my programmable calculator. and i use an elegato deck, it's their for productivity nerds.

    • @Kirlac
      @Kirlac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also I don't get the "but my function keys" argument everyone seems to use. Like, does nobody realize that pressing the "fn" key in the bottom left turns the touch bar into function keys? Or that there's a toggle in the settings to make it show function keys by default, and have the "fn" key show the regular touch bar controls? Similar to how most computers with actual function keys also map them to brightness, volume, media controls, etc. with the "fn" key.
      I love my function keys as well but it's not like they're missing or anything, they're just in touch screen form (which allows for a wider range of functionality like offering a volume/brightness slider instead of up/down buttons). The biggest problem with the touch bar is that it was never supported. They introduced it then never bothered to improve upon it or expand its functionality/customizability aside from shrinking it to fit the escape key back in.

  • @kathelsupreme1152
    @kathelsupreme1152 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never ever used any Function keys on my Mac since I bought it 2 years ago. Got all my shortcuts I need on the Touch Bar and I love it.
    Do people even know the Touch Bar is configurable in settings, and you can get your function keys on the bar by default ?

  • @Bubbaaaa
    @Bubbaaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anthony's Sponsor Highlight had me in stitches

  • @Thomas-cityd5_gixitxs
    @Thomas-cityd5_gixitxs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apple should make the MacBook thicker for louder thicker fans and thicker heat pipes to more push more heat out. Give the m2 a redesigned taller slim heat sink give it a bezel less screen 5K standard all models.
    The base models should have these specs
    Before any upgrades with retaining the same price currently.
    16GB memory 512Gb SSD 5K bezel less monitor for all standard models. Starting price 1299. That would be fair 🍏 🍏.

  • @triceracopp
    @triceracopp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Buying a $1300 laptop and only getting 256gb of storage is ridiculous

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially when it's 256 GB of slow storage. I mean technically there's a 13% bump in performance over the m1 but It requires like a 30% increase in power draw. Pretty lackluster showing from Apple even compared to their own lineup

  • @bastienx8
    @bastienx8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apple updated the M1 MacBook pro because it cost almost nothing more to produce. The point is not to replace existing M1 macbooks, it's just to have an updated offer for someone who wants to replace an old laptop with a new one

  • @nqh4393
    @nqh4393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm convinced Apple released this just to get rid of their unsold MBP chassis and touch bar.

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And pair it with all the garbage chips that lost the silicon lottery.

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pirojfmifhghek566 except not. You literally can't get the MBP M2 with the binned version. You ALWAYS get the 8-core CPU and 10-core GPU.

    • @Raja995mh33
      @Raja995mh33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is just not how this world works anymore. Factories don't have hunters if thousands of components lying around that they somehow have to use to get rid of them. Our modern world uses mostly a "just in time" production. Because its cheaper.

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Raja995mh33 [Willy_Wonka_face.jpg]
      Really? Tell me more about how everything coming off the apple silicon assembly line is always perfect.

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pirojfmifhghek566 dude you dumb?

  • @rdvgrd6
    @rdvgrd6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    70% of the video was wasted on an unboxing and design of a product that didn’t change at all. Good job LTT

    • @villanousspyder405
      @villanousspyder405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was pretty annoying, thought it was just me.

  • @guilhermecarvalho2026
    @guilhermecarvalho2026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I work as a software developer in a big company, my company buys us macbooks every couple of years, they would never buy a macbook air, and they are very cheap, so they always buy the cheapest possible model with half decent storage. Last year they bought the M1 macbook pro, this year they will buy the M2.

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why don't they get the air?would save them money and there are negligible performance differences in the m1 era. Although I guess it could depend on the use case but only some pretty excessive fringe use cases would you see any performance benefits on the m1 pro versus the air.

    • @RenatoLaporte
      @RenatoLaporte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelcorcoran8768 the reason I got the M1 mbp last year instead of the air was the bit larger battery and the fan, just in case I’m doing something that requires more of the computer when in a warm place.
      And I guess I’d do the same even considering the renews Air.

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what a waste.

  • @peat381low8
    @peat381low8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can make your function keys default on settings. And you can even put a Do Not Disturb button on the Touch Bar. I thought that was really cool.

    • @dundee248
      @dundee248 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're still not haptic - its nearly Impossible to hit them without looking. Its quite an issue for programming where you press F8 to step throgh a program line by line and F7 to enter into the statement and stuff like that...

  • @TMWriting
    @TMWriting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The touch bar takes a bit of work to make it functional (thanks BetterTouchTool!) but I honestly couldn't imagine my laptop without it now and I'm not looking forward to having to upgrade away from it. I really do wish that people didn't just shrug dismissively at it like it was a terrible concept - it was much more a terrible implementation from Apple that made it a base-level burden that required work to become useful.

    • @Shieky2000
      @Shieky2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When a feature needs extra 3rd party Applications for it to work correctly, the feature is extreme trash.

    • @mediocrecoder6184
      @mediocrecoder6184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didnt care for the touchbar and didnt use it and it would have been absolutely fine if they didnt remove the escape key. Personally I think that irritated alot of developers, they ended up bringing the physical key back again but it was already tainted by then. shame really could have been great

  • @sandeshrobothe
    @sandeshrobothe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Half the revenue of the company is by selling ads
    Anthony : I HATE ADS!!!

  • @Akkbar21
    @Akkbar21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Being the “Apple guy” is like being the PR agent for a dictator. It’s not easy to make it not seem all effed up.

  • @GS0CK6
    @GS0CK6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect Ending! I would also like to mention for anyone that is still looking at buying this M2 Pro, Please Please get the 512GB SSD otherwise you would honestly have been better off buying a M1 Air and it being faster. With a 512GB ssd the M2 has a tiny place in the lineup as the fastest M2 machine with the most battery even when the M2 Air arrives. Just forget the 256GB version exists.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The $400 for 512GB/16GB is expensive but def worth the investment as it will be future-proofed. It gets it close to the M1 MB Pro 14 which asks another question.

  • @Mr.C0ffee
    @Mr.C0ffee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Quick question? Why isn’t this content of the Mac channel and have Anthony as a co-host? Doesn’t it make more sense?. We need more videos on that channel.

    • @pablofreitasmachado8076
      @pablofreitasmachado8076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      format, I think is the issue. and also, momentum on short circuit

    • @AlexElky
      @AlexElky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because people like me who wouldnt sub for Mac specific stuff won't watch.

    • @SilverHusky
      @SilverHusky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Short circuit is unboxing and first impressions. Mac Address has a certain polish and goes in depth of a subject concerning Apple devices.

    • @ltfringr
      @ltfringr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Mac channel doesn't do unboxing type things

    • @U1TR4F0RCE
      @U1TR4F0RCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Mac Address channel has a style and unboxing and running cinebench is not that style.

  • @Joker1rulervids
    @Joker1rulervids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apple made this MBP so that the Air looks like a better get for the price, ultimately discontinuing both M1 Air and MBP but keeping the M2 Air price moving forward.

  • @michaelhafen
    @michaelhafen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Definitely feels like a marketing scheme - make the 'pro' model seem worse so it seems that spending $1200 on Apple's cheapest computer, the M2 air, 'feels' worth it, when in reality, no one would ever justify a $1200 base model a few years ago.
    In my opinion, the reason the M2 Pro was made to sell more M2 Airs.

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Regards of it's supposed shortcomings, I would rather have a base M2 MBP over ANY Windows-based laptop

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@goobfilmcast4239 .... ok?

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering what their phones are selling for, I don't think the Apple base model price range is the same as the overall market base model price range.

  • @sentoneYYC
    @sentoneYYC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought an M1 Air at launch a couple of years back. Being base was not a problem as I was doing mostly light office work with it, the portability was good when I travelled and the thing edge was comfortable to use. That being said, I just bought an M2 MacBook Pro, yes the Touch Bar for me makes a huge difference, the 0.3 screen difference from the m2 air was not a deal breaker as its mostly use to relocate the app menu on the top. M2 Air is thinner but I find the Touch Bar quite useful and to be was a deal breaker, the cooling system is a littler better when playing games or compigin vids. I had the option to purchase the base 14' but I severely disliked the squared design, the thickness and weight were also drawbacks as I travel constantly and the extra space taken and extra weight were an inconvenience. Overall there are still a lot of space in the market for the MacBook 13 pro,

  • @jamesgriffyn
    @jamesgriffyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Next time you do product comparisons could you put the year of the crab rave too

  • @Xxxyyyeee
    @Xxxyyyeee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you should have been discontinued

  • @cdskeen
    @cdskeen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my M1 MBP and love the look.

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao

    • @DCsGladiator
      @DCsGladiator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m-stat9 what’s funny?

  • @-_YuvrajSingh_-
    @-_YuvrajSingh_- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who wants better hardware, but doesn't likes the changes in the looks in his laptop/phone, I support not changing the design scheme. I still use an honor play because the hardware still keeps up, and it has a notification LED.

  • @MaddocHarrison
    @MaddocHarrison 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have commented on so many of these MacBook Pro M2 videos just to disagree with people saying its bad! It's a awesome MacBook I love it, it's great! Great battery, great screen, great Touch Bar, great speakers. Overall it's an amazing laptop

    • @mihnealazar7039
      @mihnealazar7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But what does it have over the MacBook Air M2? Active cooling for the processor will make the processor faster, but unless you get the 512GB it’ll probably still be slower (for any task that uses storage) than the M1 from 2 yrs ago. So you must pay for the upgrade and you’re soon getting in MacBook Pro 14” territory.

    • @MaddocHarrison
      @MaddocHarrison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mihnealazar7039 It has a great design, a Touch Bar witch I love, a much better battery so I can use it when I travel. That's why I bought one and I love it so much

    • @phatcyclist
      @phatcyclist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mihnealazar7039 That effort to "make the processor faster" is a huge deal when you're dropping $2k+ on a laptop. The passive cooling in the M2 Air is bad, really bad, if you do more than light tasks or anything intensive for more than a few minutes. I bought the full 24GB, 2TB M2 Pro, it's a very fast machine and is quite slim and easy to carry around with a charger and cable. The 14" is quite a bit bigger and heavier, and even though the 14" base spec is faster than an 13" M2 Pro, it's also a good bit more expensive. You can get 24GB of ram and a 1TB SSD in an M2 Pro, and still be $100 under the price of an absolutely base spec 14".

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason why this Macbook is not updated is quite simple: if they did update it, it would destroy the other Pro models. Several of the Appel users buy Macs for status reasoning (not all, I know, but a lot of them) and if they updated this design, the price would kill the other models.
    Why do you think the base iPad does have an updated design? Air and Pro would die.
    Why do you think the iPhone SE does not have the iPhone mini design? All the other models would suffer for it.
    Design is a HUGE part of Apple sales. They are a fashion and status brand as well as a tech company

  • @beesbeesbees6289
    @beesbeesbees6289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loving the wristband :)

  • @JimmyHACK
    @JimmyHACK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's not forgot about the slower storage on M2 than the M1

  • @Akkbar21
    @Akkbar21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Apple made a overpriced computer?! I do t believe it.

  • @desu-un4hw
    @desu-un4hw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    M2 pro is much better than M2 Air, because it doesn’t have that absolutely disgusting notch and screen rounding