Minor correction: the displays on these new MacBook Pros (as well as the M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pros) can actually do a sustained full panel brightness of 1,000 nits (in the video, it was stated as 500 nits). This might have been confused with the fact that under normal use, the panel is limited to 500 nits, and it only goes brighter when viewing HDR content. When viewing HDR content, it is 1,600 nit peak brightness (limited area) / 1,000 nit full panel. Side note: I know this doesn't really count because we're talking about out of the box specs, but FWIW, there is 3rd party software that will allow you run the entire display at 1,000 nits in non-HDR conditions. Also: Other comments already stated it, but the previous gen (M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pro) actually do have a 1080p FaceTime camera (video stated 720p at times). The improved image quality of the M2 Pro/Max's camera is a result of the new ISP in the M2 gen chips, not an increased in camera sensor resolution.
You would think Apple would put a 4K camera for what you pay this garbage. Somethings really infuriate me about Apple products. And other times I wonder why can't other OEMs spend a bit more money to get their own products on par.
@@TedTabaka The XPS 15 and the HP Dragonfly in this video are both more expensive than the Macbook though and neither give you a 4K webcam. As far as I know, no one really gives you a webcam above 1080p. The Dragonfly gives you a 1440p, but very few laptops have high resolution.
came to say this too; the only change is the image signal processing unit, which makes the M2 machines provide a 'cleaner' image through the webcam. 16:28
If you work in some industries e.g hospitality it’s helpful with a 2 in 1 laptop and a pen to make quick notes, annotate stuff and especially when zooming into stuff it’s easier
it doesnt make sense on windows laptops but it makes sense on macbooks, they can implement the ipadOS software with touchscreens on macbooks so it becomes a macbook/ipad hybrid. They would never do that though, because it would make the ipads completely useless.
Lifelong Windows user, I have a 5900X/2080 desktop and an XPS 15 from 2019 but just got a refurb M1 Pro 14". Apple silicon runs absolute rings around the competition, it's not even close. Being able to have a portable workstation (with a beautiful display) that can handle similar workloads to my desktop & for actual practical lengths of time without needing to connect to power everywhere is a game changer. Certainly not switching to iPhone anytime soon but very happy with the 14"
Same feeling , I have an i5 13600k with ddr5 and recently bought macbook pro m2 2023 14". This machine is a beast for a laptop . Build times are even close to i513600k ! For example i5 13600k would complete a build in 20 seconds while the macbook pro in 27 seconds,its amazing!
@@rafars2246 you're right mate, content creation is a real dying industry. Not many people really need the processing power to handle photo and video needs 🤷♂️
@@Flamamacue Processing power is always good to have regardless, but mac os is mostly useless, simply for the lack of support, lack of programs, lack of customers. I couldn't even watch a freaking movie the way I want to in mac os. Can't even be used properly on a tv or monitor that is not apple. That's how useless it is. It is a joke when people try to justify mac os based on Final Cut Pro or whatever else who 10 of a million people use...
@@rafars2246 my guy maybe you haven't actually tried to use it in a while? I've always hated how locked down Apple is, but I can use all the same programs & accessories I use on my windows machine with no issue.
The 2021 M1 Macbook Pro I got at work is the first Apple device I've used and honestly, if I wasn't gaming, I think I'd just get a Macbook Air with an external display and I'd be set. They're incredible devices. Great screen, keyboard, speakers and touchpad. Awesome performance, essentially silent and I just never have to think about it. I open the lid and it's good to go. MacOS still drives me crazy sometimes but it's mostly just incompatibility with decades of Windows muscle memory. There are issues for sure, but they are in my opinion so minor compared to everything else. The thinkpad I had before was more expensive than the MB Pro but so, so much worse.
I tend to agree. My MBA is my travel computer. It's light, battery last forever and can do almost everything I want to do. But, it is lacking when it comes to AAA games. You can play some stuff that's fun from Apple's Arcade, but it's not quite the same. However, when I'm traveling gaming is not my number 1 priority, even when vacationing.
I agree but the external display support is trash. My G27Q looks blurrier on MB than on a PC. Also, the muscle memory is real, and I still use a Windows PC for gaming.
@@Gubers people who don't want to own a macbook are those who generally hate apple, including me. it doesn't matter if the product is good when the entire laptop gets trashed just because the ssd got any voltage higher than 12 volts. and you cant even replace the damn ssd. i don't want to hate on anyone who enjoys using a macbook, but i just don't see them as a viable option if you can't repair the laptop yourself.
I have M1 MBA. Its the best laptop i have ever had and best value around, atm. And i have been solely a Windows user for 30 years. If you dont wanna play games and dont wanna spend a fortune, get an M1 Macbook Air. Amazing machine.
I believe an option in the system settings fixes the standby power drop issue. In the battery options, there is an option for "wake for network access", and you can toggle that to "never". I did that when I got it and I have never had an issue with battery consumption while off.
I have also noticed this problem with wake for network access off, if I leave certain applications running before closing the laptop. I looked at activity monitor and VS Code was the culprit.
@@vincenthoang6289 That's the idea for this channel, first look and unboxing without deep research beforehand, just the spec provided by the manufacturer, might want to watch to another channel if you want thorough exploration of the device
Shame guy wasn't half bad on camera but 720/1080 mistake sounds like amateur hour. not gonna sub if they cant even take 2 mins to read the box before making a video
That’s why you MUST let the Mac Address host, Jonathan Horst, do ALL the unboxings and reviews of Apple products and services. Linus Media Group, please! Get your act together. 😤
Minor note: The current FaceID modules used in iOS devices is too thick to put in the display panels of the MacBooks. It's not a width issue, but rather a depth issue.
@@Jst4vdeos yes, but they probably had their sights so set on having FaceID that when they had to ditch it they couldn’t revise the design of the computer in time for production. This is still the same chassis as the M1 Pro / Max models so they probably ordered several hundred thousand (or more) and are going through stock.
I agree, Touch ID is perfectly fine, but Face ID would be much better. I also agree that if Face ID simply couldn’t’ t work because of depth issues then they should’ve just made the screen a little bit thicker. Regardless, if they couldn’t include Face ID for whatever reason it is simply indefensible to still include a massive and useless notch.
I personally can't understand the obsession with touchscreens on laptops. I've had Windows laptops with touchscreens before and literally never used it a single time. Why would I smudge my screen when I have a great trackpad to do the same thing at the same speed without raising my arm to an unnatural position? (Unless you're talking about a convertible) It's just my personal opinion though and I'm sure its a matter of taste (my mom uses the touchscreen on her laptop all the time) so maybe the option should exist as a paid upgrade.
Agreed, there's literally no use case for touchscreens for my day to day workflow. Window management and everything else can be done more efficiently with keyboard shortcuts. Outside of drawing/signature applications, what else do you do with a touchscreen? And both of those, users will typically use a Wacom or just a dedicated tablet.
Great question. I never used a touch screen laptop but I probably wouldn’t use touch as I don’t like fingerprints/smudges on the screen. Also, I know that a fingerprint in the webcam sucks but why bother with it and reeeeally want touch screen? You would have hundreds of fingerprints and smudges all over the screen instead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve seen people use it for CAD and 3D modeling stuff before but I can’t imagine why it would warrant a touchscreen MacBook given how powerful iPads are getting
There's my answer that I was looking for last few months and wasn't sure or I should invest more for touchscreen laptop....how come I never thought of it, that with touch there will be fingeprints all over the screen 🙃and I really don't like spots or smudges, they distract the work. Now there's just one dilemma left, 14 or 16 inch laptop :)
From what I understand about the weird resolutions, it's so that the main screen itself is 16:10 then add on the strip of the top where the bezel lives.
Also Apple generally focuses on PPI rather than industry standard resolutions, especially for their screens. Both the 14 & 16" Macbook Pros' pixel densities are 254ppi.
I actually bought the extension cable (between power brick and wall socket), as that one is grounded. While the MacBook is charging with the regular plug, the aluminum body feels charged/static when touched. It actually means that it is using your body (or your pc periferals) for grounding. The extension cable resolves that issue.
More realistic scenario it's you who is loaded with static when you touch your MacBook. It's winter after all: dry weather, sweaters, etc. Either that or your MB could be defective.
@@Glotttis nope, he is right. You feel a weird cribbling/vibration when you run a finger over the palmrest next to the touchpad when the MacBook is plugged in with a 2 prong adapter. I honestly thought at first that it was some haptic feedback shenanigans because it is right next to the touchpad, but you can feel it at the bezel above the keyboard as well. I think some non-MacBook unibody notebooks have this as well.
As a software dev, work just bought me an M2 Mackbook Air in December for a small iOS app I need to make. Its been an awesome machine so far, and I really love the battery life and how cool it stays in my lap. I will still stick to windows for my main machines as I can run anything and everything under the sun, minus iOS specific stuff, that I need for work, but damn if these M2 chips aren't ballin out. Ideally I would want a nice 16 inch m2 macbook pro as a secondary to my windows machines so I have the best of both at my disposal.
My company got me an M2 24gb ram MacBook Air for Fullstack development and it really does suit all of my needs. This notebook is just amazing and I would definitely buy one for personal use if I needed it
Your statement was a better review then this video.. I think my issue is the "use case" I do not do music, video, and I do linux and VM's and some coding and when moving important files across terrabytes of folders, accidently dropping one (I am a huge fan of the old right and left click buttons and sometimes would work remote in my car during a emergency say at a hospital parking lot,,, remoted into a corp vpn, doing emergency work to keep a system up... but the use cases for macs never seem serious to me? I to own a few,,,macbooks, I loathe them but keep them in case I need to do data recovery from a mac or test mac components,,, the trackpad which some say is qreat,,, I do not find accurate enough, I have in the past tried to build a multi boot all in one machine to carry, to help me work on macs, pc's, and different generations thereof,, (hackintosh laptop, or mac running windows) and done both... but the best form for me,,, was a dell precision I modded with 12tb of HDD and a tb of ssd,,, with 32 gig ram,,, big ultra heavy portable workstation,,, could slide huge images on it, and toy with them entire computer drives to VM server images,,, battery life? maybe 1 hour 45 mins (in car I own inverters, and plug in) thanks though your use case makes broader sense to me...
@@jstavene Use a modern mac. Use two fingers for right click. The entire software engineering industry has adopted macs (most software conventions are filled with mac users). battery life is amazing. APFS for big files is unparalleled for speed, compared to window's aging NTFS Use a NAS for big files, no real reason to be carrying 12tb worth of images at all times. 2tb is plenty for many many images.
@@htko89 your wrong, why buy something that I can not expand? then need to use 2 fingers when 1 will work? and no software engineers I know ,,not 1 use macs (what software ,,most from games to business use windows, ) (maybe music or video,,,and even that has been changing with linux gaining and more people like tearing open the machine and hot rodding them? and battery, if your a power user and using battery,, your not a power user... and serious compiling,,,or data parsing you plug in... only some douche thinks to do anything serious on battery is a thing.. maybe tech support I did on battery in a pinch but just no.. and already I do have have nas but for transport, you do not carry a 2u 19 inch rack or 4u rack unit with... (we are talking serious work?) sorry macboy,,, use it if it works for you but nope I will go bigger, better (I like being able to swap in multiple drives, and do godlike things... macs are neutered and pathetic, just not built to be modified... last time I tried to mod a mac, ssd's, faster ram, that was all that could be done!!! and the bugger started getting warm!! 2-4k in junk,,, I can afford a "modern mac" but they lack so much... multiple ssd's, even support for old hdd's, heck swapable cards for multiple things like wifi or cell connection, some businesses require smartcard authentication,,, what mac and a dongle? piss on macs,,, these are not business usable for me or most I know. (I was a big fan of thinkpads, panasonic toughbooks, and Dell Precision Series, Dell 7330's were good,,, HP ProBooks, but mac,,, anyone who used any or some of these ,,,,is not likely using a mac (you might have "tried" or "used" 1,, and had bad experience,,, but if you had to keep these going, mod them, upgrade and update them, and had to depend on a machine for the entire payroll of your colleagues or tax W2's or the company invenotory system or a huge quickbooks system, or heck even a bio timecard clock interface testing... or Welding Robots control interface or Offline programming,,, for Robots, IGM, to Motoman ,,these are all windows, industrial heck some run (IGM) on windows embedded.. neah macs not business grade for most busiensses...
I have 2 of those power brick extension cables that I found in a box because they came with old polycarbonate macbooks and I use them with my modern apple power bricks, it’s genuinely great.
Parallels is actually able to be used on the ARM Macs but you do run the ARM version of windows. I've used it to game/use most apps successfully. Crossover is also another option with less overhead. There’s only really one thing I can think of that I can’t get working and it’s live USB tuning on my Holley EFI ECU and that’s because the USB driver doesn’t support Windows ARM
Yes. But you can't legally buy a license for the ARM version of Windows to use in a VM due to Microsoft's exclusivity deal with Qualcomm. So while that might work personally, it's a no-go in a business environment.
@@gRocketOne correct, I’m just speaking from personal experience from a personal laptop. We just have to hope that deal with Qualcomm will end eventually if someone else decides to step into the windows on ARM race. Frankly I think it’s kinda lame there’s exclusivity. “PCs” used to be about running what you brought so what makes this different?
I have an M1 Max. I haven't tried Solidworks, but Parallels -> Windows ARM -> WoW64 actually gets better frame rates than Boot Camp on my final-generation 16" Intel mac laptop. These chips are ludicrously powerful.
@@batmanonabike3119 Rosetta2 does do a really great job, but interestingly Rosetta2 is *not* what you're seeing in Windows for ARM; it's WoW64 ("Windows on Windows", en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64), the Intel emulator that Microsoft developed and uses on their own ARM PCs (and also the same subsystem that lets you run 32-bit Intel programs on 64-bit Intel architectures, although obviously it's different code), which is actually a *worse* emulator. In Ventura, Apple added the ability to run Rosetta2 in Linux VMs and it is definitely much faster than WoW64, but you can't use it in Windows to *directly* compare.
Well yess... sort of, except that would also only allow you to run the arm compiled programs, and all the ENG stuff that he can't get on mac he also can't get on windows arm. so yes he could do parallels, but he would be stuck in the same place just with a different operating system, but still the same problems. would be an interesting video anyway.
Praise for including the converted sensible units for the weight comparison section! I am the one always moaning about it when you don't, so you now get a shoutout for doing it right!
Been using the MBP14 since last summer. Still haven't experienced the drained battery issue (not saying it isn't there). In fact, as a Mac laptop user (of course running Windows on the gaming desktop, and TrueNAS Scale on the server), I can count on 1 hand, the times over the last 12 years of using Mac's laptops (sorry Apple, notebook) where the Mac wouldn't wake from sleep. I think it happened 3 times on my MBP13 Late 2013 that it froze when I wanted to wake it, and I had to reset SMC. Bear in mind, I don't do any type of CAD work, so I guess the software also plays a role here? But yeah, the MBP14 is the best laptop I have ever owned. I can easily do a whole work day without a charger on it.
Fun fact: When you use a regular 2-pin power cord instead of the optional, apple provided one, or the stock wall-plug thingy, your Macbook will not be grounded. That metal nipple on the charger does acutally serve this purpose.
@@Psychx_ I live on a ship which by its nature cannot be grounded and I never had any PC or laptop do that. There is definitely something wrong with your MacBook, charger or wall socket.
The resolutions are strange for a reason. It allows the UI to scale exactly 200%. A 4k screen would be less sharp since a 1 pixel line would be ~2.2 pixels wide and therefore blurry. It also does 1600 nits full screen for quiet some time until it gets too hot. It just limits SDR content to 500 nits which admittedly is strange. That brighness would be awesome outside. There are already tools to adjust that.
WTF are you talking about? To get the UI to scale, you simply need to increase the size of the text and the size of the UI elements (button decorations, window borders, margins etc). It has absolutely nothing to do with screen resolution. You can scale on your grandma's 60s TV just as well as you can scale on a modern 4k screen. My guess is that they were aiming at getting a 16:10 ratio, but they increased the vertical space by a few pixels accommodate the menu bar and notch. As to why they didn't go to 4k... maybe it was cheaper to have a slightly lower pixel density (which is still above 1440p).
Might be a warm take but I wish they wouldn't do that weird resolution thing, MacOS keeps wanting to run my 5120x1440 monitor at half resolution to make it crisper, when I really only want more screen real estate. Same on the laptop, I get some people don't want tiny text but I can't stand halving the screen space to make icons sharper
@@chibicitiberiu 1. Fractional scaling in macOS is appalling. That's why you want it to scale 1x or 2x perfectly. macOS is desinged to run perfectly at a very specific PPI. 2. Custom screen resolution is much more expensive because of the economy of scale.
@@chibicitiberiu macOS is weird when it comes to HiDPI scaling. It can go either 100% or 200% DPI. You can choose a setting that's about 150% or something, but that will actually render the screen at a higher-than-native resolution with 200% DPI and then downscale to fit the screen. It doesn't mean much for the weird resolutions though. Apple Silicon MBPs have 254ppi screens while all other Retina MacBooks are around ~225ppi. So they changed the previously standard-ish PPI but didn't fit to any standard-ish resolution, which is weird.
@@chibicitiberiu No he's right, macOS is set up for 2x scaling. The weird resolutions come from Apple wanting to keep their target of roughly 218ppi so UI elements are the same physical size no matter what Mac or Apple display you're using.
Yeah the M2 non-Pro/Max Macs have 1 256GB NAND module for the 256GB configurations with r/w speeds of around ~1500MB/s. Since the high-end MBPs don't have a 256GB config they ship 2 256GB NAND modules for the entry level config with ~3000MB/s r/w speeds. The higher storage config MBPs are even faster, however, with 4 to 8 NAND modules and up to 7400MB/s of read speeds.
@@utubekullanicisi Wow, that's.... shameful. It's almost like they shouldn't even bother to put faster wifi on it because the drive won't be able to handle the download speeds either way.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 It's not shameful. Anyone buying 512gb of storage is most likely not doing any IO sensitive tasks. Not only that, 128gb nand modules are slowly becoming more difficult to get. 14" now has minimum 512gb, while 13" has 256gb.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 we have a chip shortage, the speed difference is not noticeable at all, and only on the base model. people who need more speed never go with the base storage. i find the solved it very well, better than soldout all the time
I'm pretty sure Apple won't add touch screens to their macbooks unless they have a new version of MacOS ready which is adjusted specifically to support it. And yes, this is very reasonable, since all of the controls and buttons and switches and so on are designed to be clicked with a mouse, not tapped by your finger.
And if they did, they would cannibalize their iPad sales, as everyone will just by a MacBook instead of a ridiculously overpriced and oversized iPhone that they can't even fit into their pockets.
I got one of those charger extenders with my mac like 10 years ago and I'm still using it. I'm glad that they haven't changed that part. I would highly recommend it for anyone who is maybe thinking about buying one.
This. I got a new charger for my previous MacBook Pro (2012, still a really awesome machine btw) which came with the extension. Now I can just use the extension that came with that adapter. PS: While I got mine second hand, it's quite interesting Apple still sells MagSafe 1 adapters to date
Yeah same, bought one for my 2016 MBP when it didn't come with one in the box, was going to sell it when I sold the 2016 MBP a few months ago but thank fuck I didn't. Came in handy when I got my new 14" M1 Pro MBP.
I have three of them, got them from an internship. They didn't need them anymore so I just asked. Have been using them for the last 7 years, to the point where I don't use the original adapter anymore at all.
Parallels actually works really well on the M-series now. It is paid, but in my experience, it works very well now so if you use a lot of apps that do not work on Mac, that is an option
Well, If you work in "a lot of apps that do not work on Mac" , up to the point that you are going to pay a lot for a Mac plus a Windows emulator that doesn't even perform anywhere close to a cheap Windows laptop with a modest Nvidia chip... then you don't buy a Mac. You buy a Windows laptop.
@@javiej actually windows on parallels works very well, especially with the pro version. I did not try solid works but for gaming, i got constant 60 fps on high settings on multiple games including triple A titles
Along with Wifi 6E. I can’t think of a reason other than the fact that they wanted to sprinkle a couple more changes than just the SOC, so they held out for the M1
Not being able to run engineering software on Macs is sooooo frustrating. I am an engineering professor and researcher and as such I have to use ANSYS and Solidworks for my work. I currently have all three OS's, MacOS, Windows and Linux (Mint) in my daily routine, but my main gear is my apple ecosystem. It is so much easier to do everything, and I use my iPad Pro all the time having replaced all paper in my life. Currently my research involves mostly coding, so my main device is a MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro, which does everything I want it to and a lot more. But in the near future I will need to run ANSYS simulations again, and while yes I will be running the final ones on a quadro GPU, 24 core threadripper windows tower, I always need to be able to run simpler cases on my laptop for like an hour or two to debug etc. Granted my M1 Pro 16GB would not be the ideal spec for that, but I could definitely get an m2 max 64 gb 16" for that work... but they haven't brought these software over... Up until I bought this 14" pro I never had a Mac before (I got intrigued by the ARM processor), and I realised I never actually want to go back to windows as my main device.I'd prefer Linux to be honest which I daily drove for about six months and liked, but they have similar problems as many engineering software are compatible. I actually talked to some ANSYS people in a conference about bringing the software to ARM but it doesn't seem they have any such plans, which is quite a shame. The ability to have full power while not plugged in is something that would be awesome for these programs. My previous Dell laptop with its 1070 and i9-8950HK was able to run ANSYS quite well when plugged in, could barely open it when not pugged. Doing comparisons between them (running AI python algorithms), the M1 Pro and the i9 are not too dissimilar when the i9 is plugged (the M1 is a bit faster) but when not plugged in the dell falls dead.
as someone that has daily driven a "convertible" touchscreen laptop for 3 years, i almost ever use either convertible hinge or touchscreen. would not miss them much if they were gone.
If you had a 1tb ssd like your old MacBook the speeds would be similar only the base model is worse. They went from 2 256gb chips to a single 512gb chip.
Yeah I wish they had been more clear about that. Kind of disingenuous. He did say it's not a really fair comparison, but then still shat all over apple over a bad comparison?
@@Xello99 Its never a good idea to buy a base model of anything, also 512gb is hardly big enough for a smartphone let alone a computer. The price isnt really that high imo especially compared to other tech like phones being 1500 or a watch being up to 800.
10:01 it is because the Screen minus the "top bar next to the notch left and right" is a normal 16:10 screen, then you add the long "ears" next to the notch as an addition. The notch is not "cut in" to a 16:10 screen, the ears are put on. That's why the resolution is weird
To add on to what others are saying, I’m running SolidWorks on my M1 MacBook Pro Max using VMWare Fusion 13. Works decently well even doing static simulations on assemblies
4:20 This is why I don't get the war on bezels. I have to clean my MBA's display so often because there's no way to not get fingerprints on the display/webcam. Wasn't a problem in the old days.
Parallels works just fine on M1/M2 Macs. I haven't even noticed I am actually running ARM version of Windows until I checked System Information since the x86 emulation/translation is completely transparent.
The fingerprint on the webcam thing is such a non-issue lol. I bought a 14" Macbook Pro the week they launched with the M1 CPUs in 2021. It's super easy to open without getting fingerprints on the part of the webcam notch that matters. Sure, you might get prints on it somewhere near the edge, but the ENTIRE notch is not a webcam. Just, like, not jam your entire finger underneath? Just use the edge Alex. You're like a crazy engineer guy, you got this, lol.
He had to hold the lid with this left hand to press the screen with his right while the computer bounced around a bit. Not great ergonomics IMO. Also, where else would he put the camera? Does he want to open the lid with two hands, one on either side of the camera?
I thought touch screens on laptops were going the way of the curved monitors and 3D TVs. My last laptop had a touch screen and I used it for a couple weeks because it was "new" but then don't think I ever did after. They were initially cool and some people bought them but we've all now realized we don't need/want one...
The resolution is due to the sensor/camera cutout; if you run the display with the entire top part turned off and rounded corners ignored it runs in a 'standard' resolution. I don't know if you can force it from boot-to-runtime but at least they 'added' pixels for their panel shape instead of cutting away pixels to make the corners/shapes the way they like them.
Click the green traffic light button on the top left of most windows to run full screen at the standard resolution. ie: no visible notch or menu bar, except by mousing over it.
When they used to give you cable for the wall wart, it was actually grounded, unlike the standard. That fixed my issue of being zapped by my laptop all the time. Also if you dragged a finger across aluminium body, it would be... weird. Kinda miss it
Weird like magnetized? You can reproduce this by putting the charger in a regular extender with multiple sockets (but it has to be turned off I believe)
Yes! I have this too on my mid 2012 MBP hahaha it's a crazy feeling, I feel it's just current going through which could be a health issue tbh 😅 because the aluminum was like "corroding" where my palm would rest, I feel it has to do with that
Just got my Macbook Pro 16" M2 Max. Really insane, the audio, the screen, the keyboard, the trackpad, the literal all day battery life. This is my 6th Apple laptop since I got my first one in 2006. Love everything about it (as I have a dedicated gaming desktop the lack of gaming support is a non issue) but the weight is a little surprising since I'm coming from the 2017 15" which was the thinnest Macbook Pro Apple ever made (they've actually gotten thicker and heavier since then). For creative tasks this computer is literally 20-30 times faster than my 2017 Intel i7 MBP. I had no idea how much faster the new ones are. The weight isn't an issue either but I don't carry it around to school anymore like I did when I was in college, but I'd highly recommend for students definitely get the 14".
I own an M1 Pro 14" MBP and I have never had the battery drain when I'm not using it. It does go down a couple of % per day but not more than that. I charge it like once a week for normal usage. I've had it for about 7-8 months and I love it. It's a fantastic laptop.
What is weird about the Macbook is that it has a much larger board than the Mac Mini, and the Mac Mini uses 8 NAND landing pads, and for the 512GB model you get 2x256GB packages, but on the macbook, with the larger board area, they've choses to go with 4 landing pads and a single package. Even more odd is that the speed is very close between the two despite one having 2 NAND packages and the other only having one.
You might want to check Resident Evil: Village for gaming tests on the Mac. It shows what a game that is optimized for the hardware and software can do. Though there are very few games that are optimized like that one.
@@martinseal1987 Depends on your definition of quality I guess. Macs are never going to be a good deal, but if you try to buy a Windows laptop with the same build, screen and speaker quality, you are going to be saving that much money. I have a good Windows laptop and a 14" Macbook. If its something I can't run on the Mac, I use my Windows one. But if I could only afford one, I would chose the Mac for all its other benefits and its nice that if a game is optimized for them, it can be a good experience.
@@justinpritchard2633 yh I have both, my M1 is my work laptop and I swear by it, battery life, performance speaker screen etc and people could say the M1 isn't made for this task but it's disappointing that it can't handle a light amount of gaming
The app ecosystem around the new Mac OS is always going to be anemic. There's not much motivation for developers to port apps over to it if the app store takes such an absurd commission. That means fewer third party solutions and workarounds to esoteric problems. The industry ends up with fewer people well-versed in porting apps over. There are a ton of roadblocks and the incentives just aren't there, and it's mostly due to the greed of apple execs. They could rectify this situation and ease the transition better if they gave a damn.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 I don't know that I agree the issue is the App Store commission. I can't speak for most Mac users, but I very rarely ever buy anything through the App Store. Normally I will buy directly from a developers website, like with the Affinity suite, just like I would when buying software for Windows. The only reason I bought RE: Village on the App Store was because it was the only place it was available and that because Apple helped fund development. Not sure what the rates are between the App Store and Steam, but all distribution platforms take a cut, so I try to avoid them when possible. For games specifically, I would say the bigger hurdles are a smaller user base and that historically Apple products have used underpowered graphics hardware. I think the M series chips are changing the hardware limitations, only time will tell if it can grow a large enough user base to catch the eye of more game developers.
Clearly. Not only did someone write it, they also recorded someone saying it, then did a graphic confirming it. That's all three stages of production that nobody corrected it during
Yeah, and they still look good. I don't know what he's talking about. My webcam looks alot better in zoom calls compared to alot of other people in the meetings.
This isn't the first time LTT has errors with actual specs and product info. Idk why this is still a thing when they keep claiming that they have gone through checks before uploading them
With the recent revisions to the HDMI 2.1 standard it would be nice if you guys started including the data rates so we know if it’s actually HDMI 2.1 and not HDMI “2.1”
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl false. Even using a TB to HDMI adapter the previous models were always limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds/capabilities. This is the first time this has been possible, and the first time every it has been possible to hook up an 8K display to a Mac
If 8k-60 or 4k-240 needed, there’re Type-C to HMDI 2.1 cables from various manufacturers. If a bit slower flavor of 2.1 is acceptable, you can trade speed for ports and PD: Ugreen Type-C USB 3.0 HDMI 2.1 8k-30hz 4k-120hz
Apple really raised the bar with their M1 and M2 series of MacBooks, but too many "Just because it's Apple" is still included, making it hard to repair / upgrade / modify on purpose, is just one of many reasons that keep me from getting one.
It's part of the issue, they created a problem and a convenient Apple only fix for an extra fee. even if I can fix a mac on my own and get around everything that annoys me, I'm not willing to pay for products that in the end I don't really own or that in a few years I'll have to throw out because they're considered old. I like upgrading and customizing my old stuff to fit my needs, I'm still using an old ThinkPad T420, if the display and battery life wasn't bad, I wouldn't be complaining even. I understand that my use case might be different than the average user.
@@__idan__ Exactly, the strength of a PC is to choose exactly what YOU want. That starts with the dozens of new models you can choose from, but it includes upgrading or repairing old machines. Apple can never match that.
Apple laptops have always been difficult to repair and modify. Now they are nearly impossible, but the CPU package integration provides unbeatable efficiency and low-energy performance. They really are very fast all-day machines. So now they have a possibly legitimate excuse!
About the standby battery drain drama: I've got a 14" M1 Pro, and it happened to me a couple of times when I left stuff connected to the USB ports. I'm not exactly sure how that works, but now I make sure to unplug any dongles, external screens and whatnot before closing my laptop. The drain never happened again. Even though it still has the radios sorta on. It's creepy when your Bluetooth headphones suddenly pair up with the laptop that's just sitting there in your bag...
USB accessories have a long history of messing with the ability of computers to stay asleep. You can use powercfg to hunt them down on Windows. There must be a mac equivalent.
The other thing I’ve noticed is it has the same issue as with windows…. You need to unplug the power brick before closing the lid because if you do it afterwards it thinks it’s still plugged in so it doesn’t fully sleep
I've been using the original power brick extensions that came with my 12" PowerBook for uh... Almost two decades now. They work great with iPad chargers
Funny how all the Apple reviews are “this is significantly better than everything else” and yet in all the other videos it’s “Apple is garbage who would use this”
More R&D has gone into the unboxing experience than actually giving users more storage. Granted I personally won’t need that much storage because I don’t game on one or do any video production things, but still at their price points I feel like I should have more storage.
@@MrDMIDOV I mean mac books aren’t really meant for use cases which require a ton of storage(not a defense of Apple, but it is true). Most mac book users are college kids using it to take notes, study, do online classes, and consume content. None of which requires much storage. Maybe there’s some use cases I’m not aware of, but I can’t think of anything where I would want/need a mac book, but also want/need a lot of storage.
I've been running Windows 11 on my Mac Studio for a while now and it's great. Just one issue with a USB device driver so far. Super impressed by the emulation performance.
I would not run any simulation or cad software through translation at all. But yes it runs okay via parallel. Still prefer x86_64 based machine over arm64 for any real work. No one in our race team is running to switch over to arm macs 🤣🤣
Currently in a rather unique situation of suffering while using a brand-new Dell laptop, the audio driver randomly stutters forcing me to reboot/reconnect the USB cable, this never happens on my Macbook Pro. You don't realize how solid macOS is until you are forced to use Windows. Because it's so fun doing driver updates and diagnostics when you just need to crank out some code :)
When you keep looking at a person off to your left, it’s like you are looking for approval. Please look down, at the laptop or into the lense. If there are not two people talking with each other, and you keep looking at them.. WE DONT FEEL INCLUDED.
TopNotch app hides that notch, and the reason for the odd resolution is because Apple doesn't count the menu space towards the usable space to get that 16:10 aspect.
Impressive how efficient yet performant Apple has managed to get with the M1/M2! I've never bought an Apple product but they do seem nice, especially the iPads and watches.
Ipads and watches at the same time are the least useful products IMO. I have Apple maxed out (pros and maxes) everything but can’t justify getting a watch or ipad
@@Optimistas777 Yeah, it very much depends on what you like. In my base the iPad for the pressure sensitive pen with photo editing seems appealing. The watch for those features on my wrist. I rarely need a normal laptop.
Correction you can absolutely run Windows using parallels, but some programs may not work and I have not found one yet. The one thing that it can't do is Windows 10 unless you have a Windows 10 ARM install, but you can download windows 11 for arm just by using Parallels and going through the prompts. Not having to find windows makes it so easy a novice can do it.
I drank the M1 koolaid fairly quick Christmas of 2020 and have been using it in various capacities. From all-day video meeting oriented work to personal music production to personal Final Cut Pro projects to 3D Render/Simulation work to remote managed service provider IT work and it's still running laps around myself. The only downside is the battery definitely reflects this heavy use. 2 years later and I'm at 81% battery health. Apps are always getting better day by day (outside of the niche professional sphere) and lots of developers have jumped on board with adopting Apple ARM bundles. (Love you, Derivative) Take the marginal increases (and some downgrades on base specs) as a welcome, signifigant discount to the still ever capabile M1 systems.
As a programer I can tell you why so many developers are easily porting apps to ARM on Mac. Programming on Mac is almost as easy as a Linux because of how nice the terminal is. Second, programming on ARM is how many professionals learn assembly (machine code). Its much more streamlined than x86
@@Asdeer101 Bullcrap. Assembly is a low level mnemonic programming language and as thus has nothing to do with machine code. There is nothing streamlined about it. Streamlining is for the more higher level languages. It is just that ARM uses RISC which is as the name suggest reduced. It has a thus fewer instructions in its set which is easier to learn but also less powerful. Where I can do something in one instruction on a x86-64, I might need four instruction on ARM to do the exact same thing making my already hard to read code even longer and thereby harder to read.
glad you mentioned the sharpness, had one come through the office (tech support) a few days ago, it was super uncomfortable, and i only used it for 30 seconds to connect it to wifi, also, the background music in the video feels like it comes and goes, kinda jaring, might just be me
Some pretty glaring errors in this video: 1) You can run Solidworks and Parallels on the M1/2 MacBooks. The performance is fine with the ARM version of Windows. 2) There are two 256mb chips on the base model and four on the other, the others are on the back of the board. 3) That is a 1080p webcam. I haven’t had a MacBook in a long time and I love Alex but this video was poorly written and his tone comes off as super abrasive. Also, no, I don’t want to touch my screen. Stop that!
It would be an interesting video to compare Windows, MacOS and Linux. Now with the SteamDeck, Linux got a lot better at gaming while the Mac struggles. So the question would be, what are the strengths of each. What is the downside of each. Maybe have actual users of each OS sit together and have a discussion.
I prefer Windows because I can use Linux and Android on Windows with WSL and WSA respectively. While everything coexists with each other. Windows is superior in terms of what someone can do on it.
Linux is just not an operating system to be used as a desktop environment, only sysadmin like it as such since they're masochists. It's true that Linux gaming has improved by a magnitude of difference compared to say, 5 years ago but this doesn't change the fact that it is an overall clunky experience compared to Windows in terms of gaming
@ShortCircuit, have you tried the new parallels? It can now install Windows 11 ARM, which is still in beta. That version has a compatibility layer that can essentially emulate everything of x86/x64 code as well. I had very good results with that, running older programs and drivers that are definitely x86/x64 code. Downside is that you of course have a subscription to pay. But parallels is so snappy you would almost swear it is running natively when fullscreen.
I must be crazy for not wanting a touch screen. At no point in my life did I think, Man I wish I could touch my screen and move that window over using a trackpad. Even with PC Laptops I tend to go to for the models without a touch screen. I just don't get the love for it. What are you guys using the touch screen for that you can do with the trackpad or mouse?
I'm a physics student, & use the touch display with pen input for writing long/complex equations that take forever to write manually in MS word (using the manual equation tool) or running LaTex. Being able to annotate diagrams with the pen & highlight notes is very handy too. I wouldn't consider a laptop that didn't have a touch/pen display. Most people think touch displays are just for selecting things. Most people are clueless what touch displays can be used for.
@@Lee.S321 Would a MacBook be good for that kind of thing or do you prefer a Windows PC for that kind of work? Like can a Dell XPS provide the power needed for it?
@@anthonystebbins6289 Macs don't have touch displays, so they wouldn't be good for any of it. I guess you could try to use the touchpad &/or mouse to write equations manually, but it would probably be painfully slow & inaccurate. I use a Thinkpad Z13, but most Windows laptops/2 in 1s/surface pros can do it. You don't need power/performance for it, just a display with a digitiser so you can use a pen. The performance of the laptop is handy for gaming, & the Z13 has the AMD 6850U processor so it can even run AAA games (at low settings) despite being a 13" thin & light laptop.
@@Lee.S321 I wonder if the software companies would take the time to actually develop good software to use for a touch screen mac or will they just port over ipad apps. That would be my biggest fear. I like mouse and keyboard inputs but I don't do anything like your job.
this depends a lot on the user necessity. I'm a person that actually hate PCs with touchscreen, I had 2 on the past, one All in one and one dell notebook, and man, this is a terrible experiencie.
For the exact same reason which was mentioned in the video I bought a ThinkPad a couple of months ago instead of a new MacBook Pro, which I would have preferred. I do a lot of programming for microcontrollers and FPGA design and most of the tools are not available for the Mac. Running a VM (or dualboot on an older Intel Mac) does work, but if you run the VM 90 % auf the day, you might as well buy a windows device. Also, Microsoft Office on the Mac really sucks (slow, missing features, some programs not available at all (e.g. Outlook)…).
I've got Outlook on my Mac right now. I'll agree with you on Office being no where near as good as the Windows versions though. I use a work license of Office. As soon as I retire, I'll pull Office off my Mac and frankly, never miss it.
@@DansModelBench I was sure that last time I checked Outlook was not available for the Mac. Maybe they have added it lately or I am mixing it up with another program. Anyway, thanks for the clarification!
MacBooks are also a great laptop for software development. Also since they're ARM chips they're one of the best for Android OS and iOS application development since the -button- *application* can be emulated -any- *in a* very similar environment.
Windows doesn’t NEED an answer. Apple Is the THIRD largest computer manufacturer, their shipments were down last quarter and they have essentially Raised prices…that said, they make the best computer!
@@Jst4vdeos we are closer to Ukraine so everyone has a excuse to rise prices for no reason, in my country people make 400$ per month and food is more expensive then in germany...same goes for everything else
I was waiting for your reviews on the new MacBooks and because Alex has the experience and also mentioned it, would it be easy to do a test with Solidworks and how it works on the new laptops? As others mention in the comments it is possible via Parallels and he has an experience in many laptops and pcs supporting Solidworks. I am thinking of changing my 15 retina pro mid2012 with the 16 M2 Pro and want to be sure that it will work "ok" when I am away and don't have access to my home PC.
@@garmice Yeah, no problems so far except with the solidworks online tool (which I think is an issue with my SW version) as per catia, a colleague of mine does use it on a M2 air, no problems so far. Ansys yet we haven't tried it
There were people trashing on me for still wanting just ONE Type-A port, saying it was slow and outdated. Yet SD hasn't seen the SDUC update, so how does that get a pass? Would they be okay with the removal of the headphone jack from a laptop because it's "An old and outdated port! Use Bluetooth!" I'm not asking for much, just one Type-A port Apple... Otherwise, great machine!
The reason for the funny resolutions will be because Apple is targeting specific pixel densities on the screen rather that a particular resolution which I think is a really good idea.
Minor correction: the displays on these new MacBook Pros (as well as the M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pros) can actually do a sustained full panel brightness of 1,000 nits (in the video, it was stated as 500 nits). This might have been confused with the fact that under normal use, the panel is limited to 500 nits, and it only goes brighter when viewing HDR content. When viewing HDR content, it is 1,600 nit peak brightness (limited area) / 1,000 nit full panel.
Side note: I know this doesn't really count because we're talking about out of the box specs, but FWIW, there is 3rd party software that will allow you run the entire display at 1,000 nits in non-HDR conditions.
Also: Other comments already stated it, but the previous gen (M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pro) actually do have a 1080p FaceTime camera (video stated 720p at times). The improved image quality of the M2 Pro/Max's camera is a result of the new ISP in the M2 gen chips, not an increased in camera sensor resolution.
touch grass
There's no point in correcting them, they don't care about doing research for Apple specs, they just go by faulty memory every time, especially Alex
And it looks amazing with that 3rd party software (vivid app I think)...
@@klatchabobby They pinned my comment so🤷
@@glocksoup555 I wish I could. Too much snow covering up everything where I am in Canada right now :(
The 2021 M1 Pro/Max 14" also has a 1080p webcam, not 720p. I'd assume the improved quality comes from different image signal processing on the M2
This mistake was infuriating to watch.
@@andrewcooksey9390 "AN OPERATING SYSTEM DOESNT EVEN HAVE AN ANSWER FOR A HARDWARE PRODUCT"
You would think Apple would put a 4K camera for what you pay this garbage. Somethings really infuriate me about Apple products. And other times I wonder why can't other OEMs spend a bit more money to get their own products on par.
@@TedTabaka Try to fit a 4K sensor in there lmao
@@TedTabaka The XPS 15 and the HP Dragonfly in this video are both more expensive than the Macbook though and neither give you a 4K webcam. As far as I know, no one really gives you a webcam above 1080p. The Dragonfly gives you a 1440p, but very few laptops have high resolution.
The webcam from the 14'' MacBook Pro M1 Pro (2021) is a 1080p webcam, and not 720p as shown in the video.
came to say this too; the only change is the image signal processing unit, which makes the M2 machines provide a 'cleaner' image through the webcam. 16:28
Neither is it shit-tier ALEX
Can someone explain why a touchscreen on a laptop is so important? I used to have a windows laptop with a touchscreen and I never used it.
its not important just something for haters to cry about
If you work in some industries e.g hospitality it’s helpful with a 2 in 1 laptop and a pen to make quick notes, annotate stuff and especially when zooming into stuff it’s easier
@zacmullins7811 on a laptop its useless, on a 2in1 though its amazing
@@zacmullins7811i have never heard someone using it😂 very important!! Meanwhile all other actually useful things windows laptops suck at.
it doesnt make sense on windows laptops but it makes sense on macbooks, they can implement the ipadOS software with touchscreens on macbooks so it becomes a macbook/ipad hybrid. They would never do that though, because it would make the ipads completely useless.
Lifelong Windows user, I have a 5900X/2080 desktop and an XPS 15 from 2019 but just got a refurb M1 Pro 14".
Apple silicon runs absolute rings around the competition, it's not even close. Being able to have a portable workstation (with a beautiful display) that can handle similar workloads to my desktop & for actual practical lengths of time without needing to connect to power everywhere is a game changer. Certainly not switching to iPhone anytime soon but very happy with the 14"
Same feeling , I have an i5 13600k with ddr5 and recently bought macbook pro m2 2023 14". This machine is a beast for a laptop . Build times are even close to i513600k ! For example i5 13600k would complete a build in 20 seconds while the macbook pro in 27 seconds,its amazing!
Yeah well, it works for you, the other 99.999999999999% of the people doesn't have "workloads" and don't need a totally useless OS
@@rafars2246 you're right mate, content creation is a real dying industry. Not many people really need the processing power to handle photo and video needs 🤷♂️
@@Flamamacue Processing power is always good to have regardless, but mac os is mostly useless, simply for the lack of support, lack of programs, lack of customers. I couldn't even watch a freaking movie the way I want to in mac os. Can't even be used properly on a tv or monitor that is not apple. That's how useless it is. It is a joke when people try to justify mac os based on Final Cut Pro or whatever else who 10 of a million people use...
@@rafars2246 my guy maybe you haven't actually tried to use it in a while? I've always hated how locked down Apple is, but I can use all the same programs & accessories I use on my windows machine with no issue.
The 2021 M1 Macbook Pro I got at work is the first Apple device I've used and honestly, if I wasn't gaming, I think I'd just get a Macbook Air with an external display and I'd be set. They're incredible devices. Great screen, keyboard, speakers and touchpad. Awesome performance, essentially silent and I just never have to think about it. I open the lid and it's good to go. MacOS still drives me crazy sometimes but it's mostly just incompatibility with decades of Windows muscle memory.
There are issues for sure, but they are in my opinion so minor compared to everything else. The thinkpad I had before was more expensive than the MB Pro but so, so much worse.
I tend to agree. My MBA is my travel computer. It's light, battery last forever and can do almost everything I want to do. But, it is lacking when it comes to AAA games. You can play some stuff that's fun from Apple's Arcade, but it's not quite the same. However, when I'm traveling gaming is not my number 1 priority, even when vacationing.
I agree but the external display support is trash. My G27Q looks blurrier on MB than on a PC.
Also, the muscle memory is real, and I still use a Windows PC for gaming.
@@Gubers people who don't want to own a macbook are those who generally hate apple, including me. it doesn't matter if the product is good when the entire laptop gets trashed just because the ssd got any voltage higher than 12 volts. and you cant even replace the damn ssd. i don't want to hate on anyone who enjoys using a macbook, but i just don't see them as a viable option if you can't repair the laptop yourself.
I have M1 MBA. Its the best laptop i have ever had and best value around, atm.
And i have been solely a Windows user for 30 years.
If you dont wanna play games and dont wanna spend a fortune, get an M1 Macbook Air.
Amazing machine.
Gaming is why i still i use PC as my daily driver but if apple takes that seriously i would switch to macbooks.
I believe an option in the system settings fixes the standby power drop issue. In the battery options, there is an option for "wake for network access", and you can toggle that to "never". I did that when I got it and I have never had an issue with battery consumption while off.
They have even mentioned that option in the dedicated Windows Modern Standby video.
@@XeZrunneryeah it’s odd that they didn’t mention the fix in this.
I have also noticed this problem with wake for network access off, if I leave certain applications running before closing the laptop. I looked at activity monitor and VS Code was the culprit.
@@XeZrunner Which is odd because I can't imagine Alex wasn't involved in that video given how much he's been (rightfully) complaining about it.
@@StudioGallifrey yes, that’s probably the cause. Apps not respecting the battery setting. OS should just block network access for everything.
The m1 MacBook pros also had a 1080p front facing camera. The engine just improved with m2 but nothing physically changed
It’s kinda funny that they even made this mistake
@@vincenthoang6289 That's the idea for this channel, first look and unboxing without deep research beforehand, just the spec provided by the manufacturer, might want to watch to another channel if you want thorough exploration of the device
Shame guy wasn't half bad on camera but 720/1080 mistake sounds like amateur hour. not gonna sub if they cant even take 2 mins to read the box before making a video
That’s why you MUST let the Mac Address host, Jonathan Horst, do ALL the unboxings and reviews of Apple products and services. Linus Media Group, please! Get your act together. 😤
this guy clearly not sharpest tool in the drawer
Minor note: The current FaceID modules used in iOS devices is too thick to put in the display panels of the MacBooks. It's not a width issue, but rather a depth issue.
Then don’t put the notch 👍🏼
@@Jst4vdeos yes, but they probably had their sights so set on having FaceID that when they had to ditch it they couldn’t revise the design of the computer in time for production. This is still the same chassis as the M1 Pro / Max models so they probably ordered several hundred thousand (or more) and are going through stock.
I agree, Touch ID is perfectly fine, but Face ID would be much better. I also agree that if Face ID simply couldn’t’ t work because of depth issues then they should’ve just made the screen a little bit thicker. Regardless, if they couldn’t include Face ID for whatever reason it is simply indefensible to still include a massive and useless notch.
@@Jst4vdeosthen don’t buy the laptop 👍. Nobody cares except you apparently
Is that really an excuse though? What’s the reasoning behind not just adding the few millimeters needed to the display for housing the FaceID sensors?
I like how they still made a graphic for the "32TB of RAM" and an animation to correct it
Yeah, got a chuckle out of that.
I personally can't understand the obsession with touchscreens on laptops. I've had Windows laptops with touchscreens before and literally never used it a single time. Why would I smudge my screen when I have a great trackpad to do the same thing at the same speed without raising my arm to an unnatural position? (Unless you're talking about a convertible)
It's just my personal opinion though and I'm sure its a matter of taste (my mom uses the touchscreen on her laptop all the time) so maybe the option should exist as a paid upgrade.
Agreed, there's literally no use case for touchscreens for my day to day workflow. Window management and everything else can be done more efficiently with keyboard shortcuts.
Outside of drawing/signature applications, what else do you do with a touchscreen? And both of those, users will typically use a Wacom or just a dedicated tablet.
Great question. I never used a touch screen laptop but I probably wouldn’t use touch as I don’t like fingerprints/smudges on the screen.
Also, I know that a fingerprint in the webcam sucks but why bother with it and reeeeally want touch screen? You would have hundreds of fingerprints and smudges all over the screen instead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve seen people use it for CAD and 3D modeling stuff before but I can’t imagine why it would warrant a touchscreen MacBook given how powerful iPads are getting
There's my answer that I was looking for last few months and wasn't sure or I should invest more for touchscreen laptop....how come I never thought of it, that with touch there will be fingeprints all over the screen 🙃and I really don't like spots or smudges, they distract the work. Now there's just one dilemma left, 14 or 16 inch laptop :)
From what I understand about the weird resolutions, it's so that the main screen itself is 16:10 then add on the strip of the top where the bezel lives.
Yes, and in addition, Apple wants to keep the ppi the same (about 240) on both display sizes
Also Apple generally focuses on PPI rather than industry standard resolutions, especially for their screens. Both the 14 & 16" Macbook Pros' pixel densities are 254ppi.
it's more about keeping the ppi consistent on the models and having a perfect 200% scale.
@@giornikitop5373 yes thats also why ipads arent scaleable like android OS is for resolutions has to be a fixed set
I actually bought the extension cable (between power brick and wall socket), as that one is grounded.
While the MacBook is charging with the regular plug, the aluminum body feels charged/static when touched. It actually means that it is using your body (or your pc periferals) for grounding. The extension cable resolves that issue.
More realistic scenario it's you who is loaded with static when you touch your MacBook. It's winter after all: dry weather, sweaters, etc. Either that or your MB could be defective.
@@Glotttis nope, he is right. You feel a weird cribbling/vibration when you run a finger over the palmrest next to the touchpad when the MacBook is plugged in with a 2 prong adapter. I honestly thought at first that it was some haptic feedback shenanigans because it is right next to the touchpad, but you can feel it at the bezel above the keyboard as well.
I think some non-MacBook unibody notebooks have this as well.
@@sakatan1985 i only experienced it when using my iPad Pro 12.9 M1. My M1 Pro 14’ does not have this issue.
most ppl aren't even using the charge brick at all
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl true, i used it once. I only charge it with a thunderbolt dock i stole, i mean lent from work
As a software dev, work just bought me an M2 Mackbook Air in December for a small iOS app I need to make. Its been an awesome machine so far, and I really love the battery life and how cool it stays in my lap. I will still stick to windows for my main machines as I can run anything and everything under the sun, minus iOS specific stuff, that I need for work, but damn if these M2 chips aren't ballin out. Ideally I would want a nice 16 inch m2 macbook pro as a secondary to my windows machines so I have the best of both at my disposal.
My company got me an M2 24gb ram MacBook Air for Fullstack development and it really does suit all of my needs. This notebook is just amazing and I would definitely buy one for personal use if I needed it
Your statement was a better review then this video.. I think my issue is the "use case" I do not do music, video, and I do linux and VM's and some coding and when moving important files across terrabytes of folders, accidently dropping one (I am a huge fan of the old right and left click buttons and sometimes would work remote in my car during a emergency say at a hospital parking lot,,, remoted into a corp vpn, doing emergency work to keep a system up... but the use cases for macs never seem serious to me? I to own a few,,,macbooks, I loathe them but keep them in case I need to do data recovery from a mac or test mac components,,, the trackpad which some say is qreat,,, I do not find accurate enough, I have in the past tried to build a multi boot all in one machine to carry, to help me work on macs, pc's, and different generations thereof,, (hackintosh laptop, or mac running windows) and done both... but the best form for me,,, was a dell precision I modded with 12tb of HDD and a tb of ssd,,, with 32 gig ram,,, big ultra heavy portable workstation,,, could slide huge images on it, and toy with them entire computer drives to VM server images,,, battery life? maybe 1 hour 45 mins (in car I own inverters, and plug in) thanks though your use case makes broader sense to me...
@@jstavene Use a modern mac. Use two fingers for right click. The entire software engineering industry has adopted macs (most software conventions are filled with mac users). battery life is amazing. APFS for big files is unparalleled for speed, compared to window's aging NTFS
Use a NAS for big files, no real reason to be carrying 12tb worth of images at all times. 2tb is plenty for many many images.
@@htko89 your wrong, why buy something that I can not expand? then need to use 2 fingers when 1 will work? and no software engineers I know ,,not 1 use macs (what software ,,most from games to business use windows, ) (maybe music or video,,,and even that has been changing with linux gaining and more people like tearing open the machine and hot rodding them? and battery, if your a power user and using battery,, your not a power user... and serious compiling,,,or data parsing you plug in... only some douche thinks to do anything serious on battery is a thing.. maybe tech support I did on battery in a pinch but just no.. and already I do have have nas but for transport, you do not carry a 2u 19 inch rack or 4u rack unit with... (we are talking serious work?) sorry macboy,,, use it if it works for you but nope I will go bigger, better (I like being able to swap in multiple drives, and do godlike things... macs are neutered and pathetic, just not built to be modified... last time I tried to mod a mac, ssd's, faster ram, that was all that could be done!!! and the bugger started getting warm!! 2-4k in junk,,, I can afford a "modern mac" but they lack so much... multiple ssd's, even support for old hdd's, heck swapable cards for multiple things like wifi or cell connection, some businesses require smartcard authentication,,, what mac and a dongle? piss on macs,,, these are not business usable for me or most I know. (I was a big fan of thinkpads, panasonic toughbooks, and Dell Precision Series, Dell 7330's were good,,, HP ProBooks, but mac,,, anyone who used any or some of these ,,,,is not likely using a mac (you might have "tried" or "used" 1,, and had bad experience,,, but if you had to keep these going, mod them, upgrade and update them, and had to depend on a machine for the entire payroll of your colleagues or tax W2's or the company invenotory system or a huge quickbooks system, or heck even a bio timecard clock interface testing... or Welding Robots control interface or Offline programming,,, for Robots, IGM, to Motoman ,,these are all windows, industrial heck some run (IGM) on windows embedded.. neah macs not business grade for most busiensses...
@@jstavene you use two fingers for right click already on a mouse
20:34 I’m not 100% certain, but I believe these can be charged with just about any USB C charger besides the proprietary magsafe one.
I have 2 of those power brick extension cables that I found in a box because they came with old polycarbonate macbooks and I use them with my modern apple power bricks, it’s genuinely great.
Parallels is actually able to be used on the ARM Macs but you do run the ARM version of windows. I've used it to game/use most apps successfully. Crossover is also another option with less overhead.
There’s only really one thing I can think of that I can’t get working and it’s live USB tuning on my Holley EFI ECU and that’s because the USB driver doesn’t support Windows ARM
Yes. But you can't legally buy a license for the ARM version of Windows to use in a VM due to Microsoft's exclusivity deal with Qualcomm. So while that might work personally, it's a no-go in a business environment.
@@gRocketOne correct, I’m just speaking from personal experience from a personal laptop. We just have to hope that deal with Qualcomm will end eventually if someone else decides to step into the windows on ARM race. Frankly I think it’s kinda lame there’s exclusivity. “PCs” used to be about running what you brought so what makes this different?
I have an M1 Max. I haven't tried Solidworks, but Parallels -> Windows ARM -> WoW64 actually gets better frame rates than Boot Camp on my final-generation 16" Intel mac laptop. These chips are ludicrously powerful.
Yeah, he got that wrong. I've used it myself on M1 MBA, and it works really well. Rossetta does a really great job.
@@batmanonabike3119 Rosetta2 does do a really great job, but interestingly Rosetta2 is *not* what you're seeing in Windows for ARM; it's WoW64 ("Windows on Windows", en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64), the Intel emulator that Microsoft developed and uses on their own ARM PCs (and also the same subsystem that lets you run 32-bit Intel programs on 64-bit Intel architectures, although obviously it's different code), which is actually a *worse* emulator. In Ventura, Apple added the ability to run Rosetta2 in Linux VMs and it is definitely much faster than WoW64, but you can't use it in Windows to *directly* compare.
There’s an arm version of windows and you CAN still use parallels. You guys should do a video on it
Well yess... sort of, except that would also only allow you to run the arm compiled programs, and all the ENG stuff that he can't get on mac he also can't get on windows arm. so yes he could do parallels, but he would be stuck in the same place just with a different operating system, but still the same problems.
would be an interesting video anyway.
just read some of the other comments, apparently this is possible now, neat I learned something new then :)
Praise for including the converted sensible units for the weight comparison section! I am the one always moaning about it when you don't, so you now get a shoutout for doing it right!
Gotta respect you for being consistent at least
Grow up
Been using the MBP14 since last summer. Still haven't experienced the drained battery issue (not saying it isn't there). In fact, as a Mac laptop user (of course running Windows on the gaming desktop, and TrueNAS Scale on the server), I can count on 1 hand, the times over the last 12 years of using Mac's laptops (sorry Apple, notebook) where the Mac wouldn't wake from sleep. I think it happened 3 times on my MBP13 Late 2013 that it froze when I wanted to wake it, and I had to reset SMC. Bear in mind, I don't do any type of CAD work, so I guess the software also plays a role here?
But yeah, the MBP14 is the best laptop I have ever owned. I can easily do a whole work day without a charger on it.
The 16” is even better
Fun fact: When you use a regular 2-pin power cord instead of the optional, apple provided one, or the stock wall-plug thingy, your Macbook will not be grounded. That metal nipple on the charger does acutally serve this purpose.
Irrelevant
@@Techno4more I wouldn't say so. My MacBook gives me electroshocks while charging without being grounded.
@@Psychx_ then there is something wrong with your MacBook lol
thanks for the info. i did not know this before
@@Psychx_ I live on a ship which by its nature cannot be grounded and I never had any PC or laptop do that. There is definitely something wrong with your MacBook, charger or wall socket.
The resolutions are strange for a reason.
It allows the UI to scale exactly 200%. A 4k screen would be less sharp since a 1 pixel line would be ~2.2 pixels wide and therefore blurry.
It also does 1600 nits full screen for quiet some time until it gets too hot. It just limits SDR content to 500 nits which admittedly is strange. That brighness would be awesome outside. There are already tools to adjust that.
WTF are you talking about? To get the UI to scale, you simply need to increase the size of the text and the size of the UI elements (button decorations, window borders, margins etc). It has absolutely nothing to do with screen resolution. You can scale on your grandma's 60s TV just as well as you can scale on a modern 4k screen. My guess is that they were aiming at getting a 16:10 ratio, but they increased the vertical space by a few pixels accommodate the menu bar and notch. As to why they didn't go to 4k... maybe it was cheaper to have a slightly lower pixel density (which is still above 1440p).
Might be a warm take but I wish they wouldn't do that weird resolution thing, MacOS keeps wanting to run my 5120x1440 monitor at half resolution to make it crisper, when I really only want more screen real estate. Same on the laptop, I get some people don't want tiny text but I can't stand halving the screen space to make icons sharper
@@chibicitiberiu
1. Fractional scaling in macOS is appalling. That's why you want it to scale 1x or 2x perfectly. macOS is desinged to run perfectly at a very specific PPI.
2. Custom screen resolution is much more expensive because of the economy of scale.
@@chibicitiberiu macOS is weird when it comes to HiDPI scaling. It can go either 100% or 200% DPI. You can choose a setting that's about 150% or something, but that will actually render the screen at a higher-than-native resolution with 200% DPI and then downscale to fit the screen.
It doesn't mean much for the weird resolutions though. Apple Silicon MBPs have 254ppi screens while all other Retina MacBooks are around ~225ppi. So they changed the previously standard-ish PPI but didn't fit to any standard-ish resolution, which is weird.
@@chibicitiberiu No he's right, macOS is set up for 2x scaling. The weird resolutions come from Apple wanting to keep their target of roughly 218ppi so UI elements are the same physical size no matter what Mac or Apple display you're using.
Technically you get 2 NAND chips on the M2 MacBook Pro base model, one on each side of the PCB. Though the old one had 4, so it is double the chips.
Yeah, they got the storage up but at cost of changing the NAND from 128GB to 256GB. So less chips for more storage, but less parallelism.
Yeah the M2 non-Pro/Max Macs have 1 256GB NAND module for the 256GB configurations with r/w speeds of around ~1500MB/s. Since the high-end MBPs don't have a 256GB config they ship 2 256GB NAND modules for the entry level config with ~3000MB/s r/w speeds. The higher storage config MBPs are even faster, however, with 4 to 8 NAND modules and up to 7400MB/s of read speeds.
@@utubekullanicisi Wow, that's.... shameful. It's almost like they shouldn't even bother to put faster wifi on it because the drive won't be able to handle the download speeds either way.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 It's not shameful. Anyone buying 512gb of storage is most likely not doing any IO sensitive tasks. Not only that, 128gb nand modules are slowly becoming more difficult to get. 14" now has minimum 512gb, while 13" has 256gb.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 we have a chip shortage, the speed difference is not noticeable at all, and only on the base model.
people who need more speed never go with the base storage.
i find the solved it very well, better than soldout all the time
I'm pretty sure Apple won't add touch screens to their macbooks unless they have a new version of MacOS ready which is adjusted specifically to support it. And yes, this is very reasonable, since all of the controls and buttons and switches and so on are designed to be clicked with a mouse, not tapped by your finger.
And if they did, they would cannibalize their iPad sales, as everyone will just by a MacBook instead of a ridiculously overpriced and oversized iPhone that they can't even fit into their pockets.
Alex's confidence in front of the camera has grown so much over the years - he really doesn't hold back on the salt where its due!
I got one of those charger extenders with my mac like 10 years ago and I'm still using it. I'm glad that they haven't changed that part. I would highly recommend it for anyone who is maybe thinking about buying one.
This. I got a new charger for my previous MacBook Pro (2012, still a really awesome machine btw) which came with the extension. Now I can just use the extension that came with that adapter. PS: While I got mine second hand, it's quite interesting Apple still sells MagSafe 1 adapters to date
Yeah same, bought one for my 2016 MBP when it didn't come with one in the box, was going to sell it when I sold the 2016 MBP a few months ago but thank fuck I didn't. Came in handy when I got my new 14" M1 Pro MBP.
I have three of them, got them from an internship. They didn't need them anymore so I just asked. Have been using them for the last 7 years, to the point where I don't use the original adapter anymore at all.
Still using mine from my 2008 Macbook unibody.
@@haphazard1342 haha yep I think I still one from my 2006 Power Book. I probably have 5 by now since I'm on my 6th Apple laptop.
Parallels actually works really well on the M-series now. It is paid, but in my experience, it works very well now so if you use a lot of apps that do not work on Mac, that is an option
VMware Fusion does too.
there are many alternatives like utm
Well, If you work in "a lot of apps that do not work on Mac" , up to the point that you are going to pay a lot for a Mac plus a Windows emulator that doesn't even perform anywhere close to a cheap Windows laptop with a modest Nvidia chip... then you don't buy a Mac. You buy a Windows laptop.
@@javiej actually windows on parallels works very well, especially with the pro version. I did not try solid works but for gaming, i got constant 60 fps on high settings on multiple games including triple A titles
@@hamzaahmad3504 it's not even close to a replacement for boot camp although apparently thats more of microsoft's fault
While I don’t understand why Apple didn’t just include HDMI 2.1 from the start, I’m glad it’s here now.
Along with Wifi 6E. I can’t think of a reason other than the fact that they wanted to sprinkle a couple more changes than just the SOC, so they held out for the M1
because the majority of people using Macbooks don't need it, and would therefore be unnecessary.
Yeah and it was only 4 years late
Not really needed. M1 development cycle was likely a lot longer given it was gen 1.
gotta leave something to upgrade
Not being able to run engineering software on Macs is sooooo frustrating. I am an engineering professor and researcher and as such I have to use ANSYS and Solidworks for my work. I currently have all three OS's, MacOS, Windows and Linux (Mint) in my daily routine, but my main gear is my apple ecosystem. It is so much easier to do everything, and I use my iPad Pro all the time having replaced all paper in my life. Currently my research involves mostly coding, so my main device is a MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro, which does everything I want it to and a lot more. But in the near future I will need to run ANSYS simulations again, and while yes I will be running the final ones on a quadro GPU, 24 core threadripper windows tower, I always need to be able to run simpler cases on my laptop for like an hour or two to debug etc. Granted my M1 Pro 16GB would not be the ideal spec for that, but I could definitely get an m2 max 64 gb 16" for that work... but they haven't brought these software over...
Up until I bought this 14" pro I never had a Mac before (I got intrigued by the ARM processor), and I realised I never actually want to go back to windows as my main device.I'd prefer Linux to be honest which I daily drove for about six months and liked, but they have similar problems as many engineering software are compatible.
I actually talked to some ANSYS people in a conference about bringing the software to ARM but it doesn't seem they have any such plans, which is quite a shame. The ability to have full power while not plugged in is something that would be awesome for these programs. My previous Dell laptop with its 1070 and i9-8950HK was able to run ANSYS quite well when plugged in, could barely open it when not pugged. Doing comparisons between them (running AI python algorithms), the M1 Pro and the i9 are not too dissimilar when the i9 is plugged (the M1 is a bit faster) but when not plugged in the dell falls dead.
as someone that has daily driven a "convertible" touchscreen laptop for 3 years, i almost ever use either convertible hinge or touchscreen. would not miss them much if they were gone.
Yeah, using a touch screen on a laptop is actually annoying. Your screen gets smudgy.
Couple issues, the webcam is 1080p not 720p, you can also use parallels to run solidworks.
he said the webcam was 1080
@@guybrush3000 No he doesn't. The M1 Pro also have 1080p.
@@marcel151 oh u didnt say m1
@@guybrush3000 The M1 Macs (Air, 13" Pro) don't have 1080p webcams. You get 1080p starting from the M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pros (14", 16").
@@marcel151 ok… u didn’t say u were referring to m1 pro then. jeeze. u got some kinda issue?
If you had a 1tb ssd like your old MacBook the speeds would be similar only the base model is worse. They went from 2 256gb chips to a single 512gb chip.
Yeah I wish they had been more clear about that. Kind of disingenuous. He did say it's not a really fair comparison, but then still shat all over apple over a bad comparison?
@@stevenwebbmusic They mentioned the chip layout later but should have been in the ssd test.
that's probably the one most people will buy, and it's just not acceptable for a device this expensive
@@Xello99 Its never a good idea to buy a base model of anything, also 512gb is hardly big enough for a smartphone let alone a computer. The price isnt really that high imo especially compared to other tech like phones being 1500 or a watch being up to 800.
did anyone find out why they did this? It is scummy I agree but I don't understand why it happened randomly like that
10:01 it is because the Screen minus the "top bar next to the notch left and right" is a normal 16:10 screen, then you add the long "ears" next to the notch as an addition. The notch is not "cut in" to a 16:10 screen, the ears are put on. That's why the resolution is weird
To add on to what others are saying, I’m running SolidWorks on my M1 MacBook Pro Max using VMWare Fusion 13. Works decently well even doing static simulations on assemblies
At 15:16 he claims that the 14” MacBook Pro M1 has a 720p webcam, which is wrong. Those models all have a 1080p webcam.
4:20 This is why I don't get the war on bezels. I have to clean my MBA's display so often because there's no way to not get fingerprints on the display/webcam. Wasn't a problem in the old days.
Andy: "You should put (the sticker) upside down."
dbrand: "You _monsters!_ Even WE wouldn't do THAT!"
Parallels works just fine on M1/M2 Macs. I haven't even noticed I am actually running ARM version of Windows until I checked System Information since the x86 emulation/translation is completely transparent.
Question: do you Parallels-users use 14-inch or 16-inch for Parallels and why ? I am still doubting about size…
@@donald8680 I still have M1 13" and it works fine.
Suggestion: use crossover for your MacBook gaming tests. Yes it’s not ideal, however it does enable a large catalog of popular games
@@breaddough-vk8gf you can dual boot the beta
i loved gaming on the apple desktop computer back in the 90's, like sim town and kidpix was so fun.
The fingerprint on the webcam thing is such a non-issue lol. I bought a 14" Macbook Pro the week they launched with the M1 CPUs in 2021. It's super easy to open without getting fingerprints on the part of the webcam notch that matters. Sure, you might get prints on it somewhere near the edge, but the ENTIRE notch is not a webcam. Just, like, not jam your entire finger underneath? Just use the edge Alex. You're like a crazy engineer guy, you got this, lol.
I get that it's become commonplace, so they should probably add it, but I've never once wished my laptop had a touchscreen.
yeah i don't get this at all, i don't want smudgey fingerprints all over my laptop screen when i have a trackpad to click with
He had to hold the lid with this left hand to press the screen with his right while the computer bounced around a bit. Not great ergonomics IMO. Also, where else would he put the camera? Does he want to open the lid with two hands, one on either side of the camera?
15:49 Pretty sure the M1 Pro 14 and 16 had 1080P webcams…
Yep! The improved image quality of the M2 Pro/Max gen's FaceTime camera comes from the new ISP of the new chips.
I thought touch screens on laptops were going the way of the curved monitors and 3D TVs. My last laptop had a touch screen and I used it for a couple weeks because it was "new" but then don't think I ever did after. They were initially cool and some people bought them but we've all now realized we don't need/want one...
Besides processing, their battery life is just insane. That's the main thing.
The resolution is due to the sensor/camera cutout; if you run the display with the entire top part turned off and rounded corners ignored it runs in a 'standard' resolution. I don't know if you can force it from boot-to-runtime but at least they 'added' pixels for their panel shape instead of cutting away pixels to make the corners/shapes the way they like them.
Click the green traffic light button on the top left of most windows to run full screen at the standard resolution. ie: no visible notch or menu bar, except by mousing over it.
The M1 Pro also head the 1080p Webcam. Just the MacBook Pro the normal M1 or M2 Chip still has the 720p webcam.
When they used to give you cable for the wall wart, it was actually grounded, unlike the standard. That fixed my issue of being zapped by my laptop all the time. Also if you dragged a finger across aluminium body, it would be... weird. Kinda miss it
Weird like magnetized? You can reproduce this by putting the charger in a regular extender with multiple sockets (but it has to be turned off I believe)
@@AzVfL it felt as if finger was skipping across the surface instead of sliding over it, for some reason, and its super hard to describe lol
Yes! I have this too on my mid 2012 MBP hahaha it's a crazy feeling, I feel it's just current going through which could be a health issue tbh 😅 because the aluminum was like "corroding" where my palm would rest, I feel it has to do with that
@@AzVfL It's aluminium, so no magnetism. Also this is a result of the crazily crap North American Type A plugs.
Not defending this bad behavior from Apple; however if you're interested, you can still the ground 3 prong cable . . .
*cough* *cough* for $20😓
Just got my Macbook Pro 16" M2 Max. Really insane, the audio, the screen, the keyboard, the trackpad, the literal all day battery life. This is my 6th Apple laptop since I got my first one in 2006. Love everything about it (as I have a dedicated gaming desktop the lack of gaming support is a non issue) but the weight is a little surprising since I'm coming from the 2017 15" which was the thinnest Macbook Pro Apple ever made (they've actually gotten thicker and heavier since then). For creative tasks this computer is literally 20-30 times faster than my 2017 Intel i7 MBP. I had no idea how much faster the new ones are. The weight isn't an issue either but I don't carry it around to school anymore like I did when I was in college, but I'd highly recommend for students definitely get the 14".
What specs did you go for and what type of work and workload do you use it for?
There’s absolutely no problem with carrying the 16”, it is not heavy at all.
I own an M1 Pro 14" MBP and I have never had the battery drain when I'm not using it. It does go down a couple of % per day but not more than that. I charge it like once a week for normal usage. I've had it for about 7-8 months and I love it. It's a fantastic laptop.
Yes, and the 16” is even better
What is weird about the Macbook is that it has a much larger board than the Mac Mini, and the Mac Mini uses 8 NAND landing pads, and for the 512GB model you get 2x256GB packages, but on the macbook, with the larger board area, they've choses to go with 4 landing pads and a single package. Even more odd is that the speed is very close between the two despite one having 2 NAND packages and the other only having one.
You might want to check Resident Evil: Village for gaming tests on the Mac. It shows what a game that is optimized for the hardware and software can do. Though there are very few games that are optimized like that one.
Even then it isn't windows quality per dollar
@@martinseal1987 Depends on your definition of quality I guess. Macs are never going to be a good deal, but if you try to buy a Windows laptop with the same build, screen and speaker quality, you are going to be saving that much money. I have a good Windows laptop and a 14" Macbook. If its something I can't run on the Mac, I use my Windows one. But if I could only afford one, I would chose the Mac for all its other benefits and its nice that if a game is optimized for them, it can be a good experience.
@@justinpritchard2633 yh I have both, my M1 is my work laptop and I swear by it, battery life, performance speaker screen etc and people could say the M1 isn't made for this task but it's disappointing that it can't handle a light amount of gaming
The app ecosystem around the new Mac OS is always going to be anemic. There's not much motivation for developers to port apps over to it if the app store takes such an absurd commission. That means fewer third party solutions and workarounds to esoteric problems. The industry ends up with fewer people well-versed in porting apps over. There are a ton of roadblocks and the incentives just aren't there, and it's mostly due to the greed of apple execs. They could rectify this situation and ease the transition better if they gave a damn.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 I don't know that I agree the issue is the App Store commission. I can't speak for most Mac users, but I very rarely ever buy anything through the App Store. Normally I will buy directly from a developers website, like with the Affinity suite, just like I would when buying software for Windows. The only reason I bought RE: Village on the App Store was because it was the only place it was available and that because Apple helped fund development. Not sure what the rates are between the App Store and Steam, but all distribution platforms take a cut, so I try to avoid them when possible.
For games specifically, I would say the bigger hurdles are a smaller user base and that historically Apple products have used underpowered graphics hardware. I think the M series chips are changing the hardware limitations, only time will tell if it can grow a large enough user base to catch the eye of more game developers.
But doesn't have the M1 Pro Macbook 14" a 1080p Webcam? Who does the fact checking ? No one?
Clearly. Not only did someone write it, they also recorded someone saying it, then did a graphic confirming it. That's all three stages of production that nobody corrected it during
I also like how he’s like, “they clearly look different”…. Um they look the same because they are 😂
Yeah, and they still look good. I don't know what he's talking about. My webcam looks alot better in zoom calls compared to alot of other people in the meetings.
This isn't the first time LTT has errors with actual specs and product info. Idk why this is still a thing when they keep claiming that they have gone through checks before uploading them
Not only does the MBP webcam look much better than the HP DragonFly webcam but the microphone sounds 5x better.
I also noticed this. The microphone on the MacBook sounded so much more natural.
Parallels works on the M1 & M2 with Windows 11 - running it on a M1 Mac Studio. Super easy setup also!
Question: do you Parallels-users use a 14-inch or 16-inch for Parallels and why ? I am still doubting about size…
@@donald868014 inch all the way. The screen is big enough for me, it is cheaper and considerably lighter
With the recent revisions to the HDMI 2.1 standard it would be nice if you guys started including the data rates so we know if it’s actually HDMI 2.1 and not HDMI “2.1”
just use dongles, this was never an issue
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl false. Even using a TB to HDMI adapter the previous models were always limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds/capabilities. This is the first time this has been possible, and the first time every it has been possible to hook up an 8K display to a Mac
If 8k-60 or 4k-240 needed, there’re Type-C to HMDI 2.1 cables from various manufacturers. If a bit slower flavor of 2.1 is acceptable, you can trade speed for ports and PD:
Ugreen Type-C USB 3.0 HDMI 2.1 8k-30hz 4k-120hz
Apple really raised the bar with their M1 and M2 series of MacBooks, but too many "Just because it's Apple" is still included, making it hard to repair / upgrade / modify on purpose, is just one of many reasons that keep me from getting one.
Just get apple care and trade it in for a new one every three years
@@koalaunknown That "trade it in" philosophy won't work. My M1 Max? Trades in for literally $710 CAD is all they'll give for it. I paid $4,500
It's part of the issue, they created a problem and a convenient Apple only fix for an extra fee.
even if I can fix a mac on my own and get around everything that annoys me, I'm not willing to pay for products that in the end I don't really own or that in a few years I'll have to throw out because they're considered old.
I like upgrading and customizing my old stuff to fit my needs, I'm still using an old ThinkPad T420, if the display and battery life wasn't bad, I wouldn't be complaining even.
I understand that my use case might be different than the average user.
@@__idan__ Exactly, the strength of a PC is to choose exactly what YOU want. That starts with the dozens of new models you can choose from, but it includes upgrading or repairing old machines. Apple can never match that.
Apple laptops have always been difficult to repair and modify. Now they are nearly impossible, but the CPU package integration provides unbeatable efficiency and low-energy performance. They really are very fast all-day machines. So now they have a possibly legitimate excuse!
About the standby battery drain drama: I've got a 14" M1 Pro, and it happened to me a couple of times when I left stuff connected to the USB ports. I'm not exactly sure how that works, but now I make sure to unplug any dongles, external screens and whatnot before closing my laptop. The drain never happened again.
Even though it still has the radios sorta on. It's creepy when your Bluetooth headphones suddenly pair up with the laptop that's just sitting there in your bag...
USB accessories have a long history of messing with the ability of computers to stay asleep. You can use powercfg to hunt them down on Windows. There must be a mac equivalent.
The other thing I’ve noticed is it has the same issue as with windows…. You need to unplug the power brick before closing the lid because if you do it afterwards it thinks it’s still plugged in so it doesn’t fully sleep
I've been using the original power brick extensions that came with my 12" PowerBook for uh... Almost two decades now. They work great with iPad chargers
Funny how all the Apple reviews are “this is significantly better than everything else” and yet in all the other videos it’s “Apple is garbage who would use this”
Thank you for this intro, I've always felt like a crazy person talking about how good Apple products smell out of the box lol
They should make a spray so we can keep it smelling like that all the time
More R&D has gone into the unboxing experience than actually giving users more storage.
Granted I personally won’t need that much storage because I don’t game on one or do any video production things, but still at their price points I feel like I should have more storage.
@@MrDMIDOV I mean mac books aren’t really meant for use cases which require a ton of storage(not a defense of Apple, but it is true). Most mac book users are college kids using it to take notes, study, do online classes, and consume content. None of which requires much storage. Maybe there’s some use cases I’m not aware of, but I can’t think of anything where I would want/need a mac book, but also want/need a lot of storage.
@@charlesbrown4483 see where you lost me there is "most macbook users are college kids". 100% wrong there.
@@naveedmoein8054 No, actually not wrong.
I love undertime slopper
I've been running Windows 11 on my Mac Studio for a while now and it's great. Just one issue with a USB device driver so far. Super impressed by the emulation performance.
Through parallels?
I would not run any simulation or cad software through translation at all. But yes it runs okay via parallel. Still prefer x86_64 based machine over arm64 for any real work. No one in our race team is running to switch over to arm macs 🤣🤣
Currently in a rather unique situation of suffering while using a brand-new Dell laptop, the audio driver randomly stutters forcing me to reboot/reconnect the USB cable, this never happens on my Macbook Pro. You don't realize how solid macOS is until you are forced to use Windows. Because it's so fun doing driver updates and diagnostics when you just need to crank out some code :)
When you keep looking at a person off to your left, it’s like you are looking for approval.
Please look down, at the laptop or into the lense.
If there are not two people talking with each other, and you keep looking at them.. WE DONT FEEL INCLUDED.
Note, you actually can use SolidWorks and Parallels on M1/M2 Macs.
TopNotch app hides that notch, and the reason for the odd resolution is because Apple doesn't count the menu space towards the usable space to get that 16:10 aspect.
Impressive how efficient yet performant Apple has managed to get with the M1/M2! I've never bought an Apple product but they do seem nice, especially the iPads and watches.
Ipads and watches at the same time are the least useful products IMO. I have Apple maxed out (pros and maxes) everything but can’t justify getting a watch or ipad
@@Optimistas777 Yeah, it very much depends on what you like. In my base the iPad for the pressure sensitive pen with photo editing seems appealing. The watch for those features on my wrist. I rarely need a normal laptop.
Just picked up a new M1 14-inch Macbook pro (min. spec) for $1,600 and couldn't be happier! That's $400 off
Correction you can absolutely run Windows using parallels, but some programs may not work and I have not found one yet. The one thing that it can't do is Windows 10 unless you have a Windows 10 ARM install, but you can download windows 11 for arm just by using Parallels and going through the prompts. Not having to find windows makes it so easy a novice can do it.
I drank the M1 koolaid fairly quick Christmas of 2020 and have been using it in various capacities. From all-day video meeting oriented work to personal music production to personal Final Cut Pro projects to 3D Render/Simulation work to remote managed service provider IT work and it's still running laps around myself. The only downside is the battery definitely reflects this heavy use. 2 years later and I'm at 81% battery health.
Apps are always getting better day by day (outside of the niche professional sphere) and lots of developers have jumped on board with adopting Apple ARM bundles. (Love you, Derivative)
Take the marginal increases (and some downgrades on base specs) as a welcome, signifigant discount to the still ever capabile M1 systems.
As a programer I can tell you why so many developers are easily porting apps to ARM on Mac. Programming on Mac is almost as easy as a Linux because of how nice the terminal is. Second, programming on ARM is how many professionals learn assembly (machine code).
Its much more streamlined than x86
@@Asdeer101 Bullcrap. Assembly is a low level mnemonic programming language and as thus has nothing to do with machine code. There is nothing streamlined about it. Streamlining is for the more higher level languages. It is just that ARM uses RISC which is as the name suggest reduced. It has a thus fewer instructions in its set which is easier to learn but also less powerful. Where I can do something in one instruction on a x86-64, I might need four instruction on ARM to do the exact same thing making my already hard to read code even longer and thereby harder to read.
glad you mentioned the sharpness, had one come through the office (tech support) a few days ago, it was super uncomfortable, and i only used it for 30 seconds to connect it to wifi, also, the background music in the video feels like it comes and goes, kinda jaring, might just be me
The M1Pro Macbook also has a 1080p webcam
Some pretty glaring errors in this video:
1) You can run Solidworks and Parallels on the M1/2 MacBooks. The performance is fine with the ARM version of Windows.
2) There are two 256mb chips on the base model and four on the other, the others are on the back of the board.
3) That is a 1080p webcam.
I haven’t had a MacBook in a long time and I love Alex but this video was poorly written and his tone comes off as super abrasive. Also, no, I don’t want to touch my screen. Stop that!
I've never once had a fingerprint over my camera lmao. You ARE opening it wrong!
It would be an interesting video to compare Windows, MacOS and Linux. Now with the SteamDeck, Linux got a lot better at gaming while the Mac struggles. So the question would be, what are the strengths of each. What is the downside of each. Maybe have actual users of each OS sit together and have a discussion.
I prefer Windows because I can use Linux and Android on Windows with WSL and WSA respectively. While everything coexists with each other.
Windows is superior in terms of what someone can do on it.
Linux is just not an operating system to be used as a desktop environment, only sysadmin like it as such since they're masochists. It's true that Linux gaming has improved by a magnitude of difference compared to say, 5 years ago but this doesn't change the fact that it is an overall clunky experience compared to Windows in terms of gaming
32 TB of Ram on a laptop is pretty incredible
Wonders of modern medicine
You can spec these new MacBook Pros with up to 96GB of RAM!
(obviously gonna be $$$$$)
Especially on a Mac, on a windows device it may actually be justified but Mac OS and safari are very ram efficient.
32TB of RAM? What is this? 2040?
I guess you mean 32GB of RAM, not 32TB. Anyway I'm not impressed, there are windows laptops with up to 128GB now.
@ShortCircuit, have you tried the new parallels? It can now install Windows 11 ARM, which is still in beta. That version has a compatibility layer that can essentially emulate everything of x86/x64 code as well. I had very good results with that, running older programs and drivers that are definitely x86/x64 code. Downside is that you of course have a subscription to pay. But parallels is so snappy you would almost swear it is running natively when fullscreen.
how much is the subscription?
14:30 ...yes you definitely can, I have been running UTM with windows 7, 10 and 11 on my M1 pro without issues for almost an year now
Correction 14:25:
Parallels absolutely does run on M1 and M2 and that's a crucial fact.
I must be crazy for not wanting a touch screen. At no point in my life did I think, Man I wish I could touch my screen and move that window over using a trackpad. Even with PC Laptops I tend to go to for the models without a touch screen. I just don't get the love for it. What are you guys using the touch screen for that you can do with the trackpad or mouse?
I'm a physics student, & use the touch display with pen input for writing long/complex equations that take forever to write manually in MS word (using the manual equation tool) or running LaTex. Being able to annotate diagrams with the pen & highlight notes is very handy too. I wouldn't consider a laptop that didn't have a touch/pen display. Most people think touch displays are just for selecting things. Most people are clueless what touch displays can be used for.
@@Lee.S321 Would a MacBook be good for that kind of thing or do you prefer a Windows PC for that kind of work? Like can a Dell XPS provide the power needed for it?
@@anthonystebbins6289 Macs don't have touch displays, so they wouldn't be good for any of it. I guess you could try to use the touchpad &/or mouse to write equations manually, but it would probably be painfully slow & inaccurate. I use a Thinkpad Z13, but most Windows laptops/2 in 1s/surface pros can do it. You don't need power/performance for it, just a display with a digitiser so you can use a pen. The performance of the laptop is handy for gaming, & the Z13 has the AMD 6850U processor so it can even run AAA games (at low settings) despite being a 13" thin & light laptop.
@@Lee.S321 I wonder if the software companies would take the time to actually develop good software to use for a touch screen mac or will they just port over ipad apps. That would be my biggest fear. I like mouse and keyboard inputs but I don't do anything like your job.
this depends a lot on the user necessity. I'm a person that actually hate PCs with touchscreen, I had 2 on the past, one All in one and one dell notebook, and man, this is a terrible experiencie.
For the exact same reason which was mentioned in the video I bought a ThinkPad a couple of months ago instead of a new MacBook Pro, which I would have preferred. I do a lot of programming for microcontrollers and FPGA design and most of the tools are not available for the Mac. Running a VM (or dualboot on an older Intel Mac) does work, but if you run the VM 90 % auf the day, you might as well buy a windows device. Also, Microsoft Office on the Mac really sucks (slow, missing features, some programs not available at all (e.g. Outlook)…).
I've got Outlook on my Mac right now. I'll agree with you on Office being no where near as good as the Windows versions though. I use a work license of Office. As soon as I retire, I'll pull Office off my Mac and frankly, never miss it.
@@DansModelBench I was sure that last time I checked Outlook was not available for the Mac. Maybe they have added it lately or I am mixing it up with another program. Anyway, thanks for the clarification!
@@petermuller5031 there are Office apps that aren't available on Mac, but Outlook isn't one of them 😊
Biggest gap in the MacOS Office experience is PowerQuery in Excel. I have to run a VM just for that.
MacBooks are also a great laptop for software development. Also since they're ARM chips they're one of the best for Android OS and iOS application development since the -button- *application* can be emulated -any- *in a* very similar environment.
The dev ecosystem and tooling is so good on MacOS as well.
Windows doesn’t NEED an answer. Apple
Is the THIRD largest computer manufacturer, their shipments were down last quarter and they have essentially Raised prices…that said, they make the best computer!
I was constantly impressed by how good my 2021 16 inch MacBook Pro sounded like. I don't need a speaker at all.
Funny to see my early 2015 MacBook Pro that came with that extension cable was a thing I shouldn’t have taken for granted.
In EU their prices are almost 1.5 times of the M1s, is it really worth it?
Man, the EU prices really fucked us over for everything, Even non apple products are so expensive here! Especially in the UK :/
No.
@@atthelord is it import taxes or what?
@@Jst4vdeos we are closer to Ukraine so everyone has a excuse to rise prices for no reason, in my country people make 400$ per month and food is more expensive then in germany...same goes for everything else
@@Jst4vdeos VAT and worse USD/EUR exchange rate than a few years ago.
I was waiting for your reviews on the new MacBooks and because Alex has the experience and also mentioned it, would it be easy to do a test with Solidworks and how it works on the new laptops? As others mention in the comments it is possible via Parallels and he has an experience in many laptops and pcs supporting Solidworks.
I am thinking of changing my 15 retina pro mid2012 with the 16 M2 Pro and want to be sure that it will work "ok" when I am away and don't have access to my home PC.
I actually made that change from 2012 MB pro to M1 Pro and do use SolidWorks on Parallels and no issues so far
@@davax188 thanks for your reply. have you tried any big assembly so far? how about other software like ansys,catia etc?
@@garmice from experience Catia V5 R19 runs just fine with Parallels
@sahmir Lareum thanks for the reply but parallels with arm on M1 and M2 or with old intel versions?
@@garmice Yeah, no problems so far except with the solidworks online tool (which I think is an issue with my SW version) as per catia, a colleague of mine does use it on a M2 air, no problems so far. Ansys yet we haven't tried it
14:15 “simply not an option” - wrong.
Parallels on Apple Silicon runs Windows 11 Pro
I use it every single day.
There were people trashing on me for still wanting just ONE Type-A port, saying it was slow and outdated.
Yet SD hasn't seen the SDUC update, so how does that get a pass? Would they be okay with the removal of the headphone jack from a laptop because it's "An old and outdated port! Use Bluetooth!"
I'm not asking for much, just one Type-A port Apple...
Otherwise, great machine!
Alex: I hate fingerprints on the screen!
Also Alex: Why isn't there a touchscreen?
:D
lol, just what I thought
I want someone to run windows in these macbooks and run some games, then make a video about their performance.
The problem is that they would have to create drivers for the hardware that work with Windows. Because Apple damn sure isn't going to provide it.
The reason for the funny resolutions will be because Apple is targeting specific pixel densities on the screen rather that a particular resolution which I think is a really good idea.
also because of the notch, its a 16:10 screen with some added on top for the menu bar / notch
20:50 if you forgot your MagSafe charger then you just borrow a USB-C charger in such moments so this is a plus for MacBooks
The only thing windows has got going for it is engineers and gamers.
Important to mention that the m1pro 14 inch when on sale for like 1499 maybe the best bang for buck power laptop apple has.
yeah then you can get it at best buy open box for like 1300
I don't care for Apple products from a user experience side of things, but credit where it's due, they make some good hardware.
@Sarika Gaming STOP spamming everywhere.
Still LOVING the DBrand LTT relationship.
correction: you CAN still install parallels, vmware fusion, and qemu. you can't install virtualbox tho.
1:50 I guess it makes sense when you phrase the sentence in that way. Nobody used the cable so they felt it better to ship without it