Contraception and NFP
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
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I decided to get a little controversial today and discuss contraception and NFP, I know this topic can be difficult to discuss but I think it is important to set the record straight on what we believe as Catholics and what the Catholic Church teaches.
I’d love to know your RESPECTFUL thoughts and opinions below!
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Thank you so much, Amber. I wish you continue doing your ministry, which can change people's relationship with God and give us a better world with less suffering, anxiety, depression, or meaningless lives.
You have inspired me so much and helped me not feel alone as a young catholic coming back to the faith .and I have even started my own channel!! thank you for having so much confidence and courage!
I'm so glad I have been able to help you along your journey! God bless!
So incredibly happy that you made this video - and that I found your channel! Italian catholic here, who is following in your footsteps and just created his catholic youtube channel. I also love that you centered this video around the CCC, which is an under appreciated miracle in itself! 🙏🏻
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. I could talk about this topic all day, contraception is one of the most horrible things to plague marriages. I know a handful of people who became Catholic because of their convictions about this issue that is so widely accepted in protestant circles.
Girl I know you and Max want to enjoy the engagement and plan things in your own time but please do a live or something giving us the details of the proposal. I'm living vicariously through you guys ❤
I’ve used NFP in my marriage and I just want to say it can put a bit of a strain on your marriage if you’re trying to avoid conception because on the days that a woman is ovulating, that is likely when her sex drive will be at its highest in her cycle. Suppressing desire to have sex with your husband can be tough. I don’t like saying no to sex, especially when we both very much want each other.I only used NFP to avoid conception when I was newly post-partum. Just something to be aware of if you’re preparing for marriage :)
Nfp is against natural law, can ya tell?
Look up the video “NFP: A Birth Control Deception” by the channel vaticancatholic. NFP is sinful if used to avoid a pregnancy, not to achieve it. Because pregnancy is the primary (but not only) purpose of the marital act whose other secondary purposes must be subjected to the primary purpose (children). No magisterial statement supports NFP.
Here is one thing many catholics don't realize nfp isn't to be used whenever you want its to be used when absolutely necessary this is the true purpose of nfp and truth I'm a mom to 8 and I know I'm to use it only if grave reason to avoid a pregnancy not hecause ky home isn't big enough or timing is off etc. Hard truth to swallow for many was even for myself
so much miscomunication in society, thank you for this
Sadly one woman here that can't use NFP. I'm supposed to keep time between each pregnancy due to being high risk and having repeat cesareans. I have two uteruses and cervixes so nfp isn't completely doable. I tried and my hormones only stayed regulated for so long before going out of whack, each uterus does its own thing whenever, they are not synced and there's no way to check ovulation. I ended up becoming pregnant 5 months after getting off of my birth control. I was told there's a disposition (?) I can't remember the word, pregnancy brain, because of the nature of mine and my husband's case. I'm extremely fertile but all the doctors I speak with say I need to wait and my pregnancies are risky. If I had not gotten married I would've thought God made me to not have children at all. I don't have healthy pregnancies, breastfeeding without shields is not possible, I have 2 uteruses, each pregnancy ends with cesarean, etc. 😂 But it's my cross to carry. Update: baby has been born and doctors advised me that I probably shouldn't have any more children.
From Catholic Answers: Humanae Vitae does not use the phrase “grave motive” in either the original Latin or in the Vatican’s English translation. In section 10, the pertinent phrase in the original Latin is seriis causis (serious causes). In section 16 the pertinent phrases are iustae causae (just cause) and probabiles rationes (“acceptable,” “credible,” or “justifiable” reasons).
These are lower standards of necessity than “grave.”
I agree there’s no term “grave” used at all. I advise everyone to actually read Humanae Vitae because it’s a handbook for answering many modern moral questions regarding sexuality.
Ultimately, this issue boils down to the guidance of The Holy Spirit and your priest confessor. There are many ways someone may either overstretch justifiableness of their cause or quite the opposite and put too heavy burden on themselves.
If NFP is natural, no justification is necessary. Ps, it's not natural
Very hard pill to swallow this one...
Pope Paul the VI institute in Omaha Nebraska is a great resource for anyone dealing with infertility, medicals issues, and or seeking Catholic resources in line with the teachings of the Church. Our family has found them very helpful! God bless!
there are many toxic and false relationships in the contemporary world
I could never fake in a relationship
We had to take the NFP class before we got married. We enrolled in the class but we had the tv playing in the background 😂 I think the only positive thing was learning how to track an irregular period in order to get pregnant.
Be fruitful and multiply and NFP yes has to be for grave reasons only, easily it is used a default to “space” children out instead of trusting our Lord
This is very useful. Thanks
I’m a Protestant and I completely understand where the Roman Catholic Church is coming from on this issue. Although I haven’t fully thought this issue through, I definitely think contraception should be avoided.
Informative video. God Bless!
You did a very good job on this.
Also, as a catholic male who is a revert what you said is 100% spot on, and I only wish when I was younger, I had good information like this. As a 36yr old male having to get out of the mess is hard and trying to explain this to my wife is even harder. You keep doing the lords work and enjoy your next chapter with your engagement. I have a feeling in the not too far off future you will be talking to Jason Evert or Christopher West. Who I guess is going to have a TOB 1 in MKE in June.
I’m on a medication that can cause The baby to die… I also don’t want children. This topic idk always gives me anxiety because I do love with all my heart our church and love god but this teaching is something I simply can’t follow and don’t wish too 💔
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Yeah true. Good subject
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I think it also needs to be mentioned that NFP can only be used if BOTH husband and wife consent to abstaining during that period of fertility. The default during marriage is that both husband and wife have rights to each other's bodies and to the marital act. One spouse cannot deny the other simply because the one spouse does not want children.
That’s not true.
The default is to move in the direction of whomever is not ready to have a baby at the moment.
If someone isn’t ready for a new baby, they are the one who is honored.
I can easily tell you that some women need a break between babies and nursing doesn’t always work to keep away cycles.
My cycles always returned at 6 weeks
PP.
I exclusively nursed all of my children.
There was a lot of abstaining the first year PP because I needed to heal and not get pregnant so soon after the previous.
Husband fully respected that.
This kind of mentality usually does not take into account the wife as she is the one who is pregnant/nursing/healing and handling the day to day life of her children.
It’s perfectly acceptable for a woman to say no to sex because she isn’t interested in getting pregnant at the moment.
Being a supportive spouse means investing time and energy into charting and understanding when abstinence needs to occur and when green-lights days begin again.
It also means opening up green light days to intimacy and putting the marital act at the top of that list.
@@kristincusick1342 But your reason of needing your body to heal is a legitimate reason to use NFP. Many people mistakenly think they can use NFP just because they don't want kids and therefore aren't open to life.
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Technically, artificial contraception IS permissible according to the Catholic Church to prevent rape.
I want to use NFP to track y health ad know my body and I'll use that information to my advantage in not just contraception concieving or to use for the doctors heck even working out and diet and planning events fertility awareness is not contraception but being aware of your body.
So real!
Using NFP to engage in the marital act with the intent of avoiding conception without serious reason is a grave sin. Bishop Schneider, Sensus Fidelium and vaticancatholic explain this in greater detail in videos available on youtube.
As someone who has utilized three different NFP methods during my marriage, I'd like to add to the conversation about the cost associated. There are methods like the couple-to-couple/symptopro, Billings (and iterations of this like the Family of the Americas), and Two-day method that can be easily learned and practiced without much (or any) cost. But many women have difficulty parsing out cervical symptoms, can't met requirements for temperature methods (like having uninterrupted sleep), and may have failed ovulations when there are ovulation symptoms, but no resulting ovulation.
That's when methods the require more cost like Creighton or Marquette come in that use one on one coaching and technology (like ovulation test strips and clear blue fertility monitors) for people who need more than what the simpler methods can offer.
So the cost depends on the method, and the best method for a couple depends on factors idiosyncratic to the woman and her fertility.
The church teachings tells us not to use contraceptives and this results in couples having many children. So when they want to send their children to catholic schools they are rejected because there is no place or its too expensive. Is there any help from the church regarding this problem.
I am the youngest of 6 kids, we all went to Catholic school 1-8th grade. My dad was a janitor, mom worked in a factory. There are ways and help from Diocease.
@@Strive1974 Im talking about recent times. I know so many catholic couples who couidnt get place in a catholic school for their kids.
NFP & other contraceptive methods with the purpose of avoiding children is most definitely sinful.
What is the stance if you are using birth control to control a hormone in balance that causes chronic headaches and nausea not having sex well using it as I’m not married
Birth control to regulate periods is ok is it? I used to get severe pain before and I felt like it helps for me.
My girlfriend does this, although she also has a bleeding disorder. (We’re Anglican however so I guess we’re part of the problem group).
If you are to do this I would recommend like once every 2 years or so, (or maybe keeping a journal for a couple month prior) going off of it and see how it impacts your behaviour. Birth control can radically alter emotions as well as who your attracted to. There are many stories where women are not only not attracted to her husband after going off the pill, but repulsed to the point where the couple get a divorce.
It is technically okay, but I would suggest trying to find a better option to your medical condition. As she said in the video, it's a bandaid to the issue. It does not actually fix the problem. And the side effects are not really that great, it has some good, some bad. Like, it can increase your chance to get certain cancers, but decrease other ones.
Birth control tends to be prescribed as a "band-aid" drug in the ob/gyn community. It is better to investigate the cause of the pain. Because although severe pain with periods may be common, it is not normal and signifies something wrong in the body. Often the issue can get worse and affect other bodily systems if the cause is not addressed. I feel for you and pray you can find healing.
As someone who got on BC to try and regulate my period, I’d suggest getting off of it asap. I understand that we all have different hormones, but In my experience I lost so much blood and became sick. It took about 2 years for my health to try and get back in order. Besides the fact that I felt like I was going psycho is what killed me.
This world needs good Catholic parents ....God Bless
I don’t want to have children because I have mental illness and neurological disorders that I don’t want to pass on.
Do not get married if you are not open to life. This is not to be mean to you in any way. The main purpose of marriage (according to the church) is for the procreation and education of children. Sexless marriage and contraception is not God's plan for marriage. An example of this is Louis and Zellie Martin who are saints. You should discern what God is calling you to, and if you are closed off to procreation, maybe it shouldn't be marriage. But if you discern it and still come back to marriage, maybe you should have a change of heart.
Don't feel worried or anything over this, just letting you know there's a difference in avoiding pregnancy for just causes (NFP) and being completely closed off to procreation altogether. 😊
Thank you for all our your helpful advice and suggestions. God bless you 🙏
I do not use contraception because I chose chastity long ago.
Nonetheless, as a health care worker i'm supposed to offer them to people in order to avoid undesired pregnancies.
I could refuse to do it, but nowadays little girls start having intercourses as early as age thirteen. I just don't have the heart not to provide them. As a Catholic, this is a great source of internal suffering for me.
There's nothing wrong with you. Shame is the real devil.
Let me leave a comment that may be unpleasant to someone.
Why, when talking about the sinfulness of contraception, does it mean only the impossibility of conceiving a child? I sincerely hoped that sexual diseases would be discussed. Some of the viruses and bacteria may be in the body without sexual experience. Their treatment can be much more serious, and indeed become the sin that will lead to death.
In this case, partners should be confident in each other. They have to do a full medical examination. Sexually transmitted diseases are dangerous not only for the couple, but also for the unborn child.
"Some studies of the efficacy of virginity pledges have found they may be effective in delaying vaginal intercourse but ineffective in reducing the rate of sexually transmitted infection. They also reduce the likelihood of contraceptive use".
Sexual education is also necessary in religion.
What was the doctor she recommended? Nefro doctor?
Napro
@@kristincusick1342 Got it! Cheers
If NFP, then AFP. Simple is that.
Some girls think it's bizarre that I will never use contraceptives. I find it bizarre that they harm their bodies when NFP is an option.
I don't understand sex is also just meant for pleasure between married couples just because their using contraception doesnt mean they don't ever want kids just that they dont want one eveytime they have sex i think it's responsible to not be getting pregnant willy nilly.
Your guyzez?
Couple A wants to continue to have physical intimacy without conceiving until a time of their choosing. If they conceive due to a failure of the method they are using they will accept that pregnancy and raising that child. They are therefore "open to life".
Couple B wants to continue to have physical intimacy without conceiving until a time of their choosing. If they conceive due to a failure of the method they are using they will accept that pregnancy and raising that child. They are therefore "open to life".
One couple used NFP and one used a method of artificial birth control.
The only difference between the couples was the method they used. Their intentions were identical, their willingness to accept a pregnancy they tried to prevent was identical.
If a couple were not acting in such a way as to prevent a pregnancy, there would not be a "method" to use. A method of what? Intimacy without conception.
I am not advocating for or against NFP. This honestly is a newer issue in the church's history (both modern NFP and modern forms of contraception such as pills have only been around for a few decades.) I think that there are all kinds of problems associated with artificial birth control, such as health and fertility issues caused by pills (this applies to many medical vs. Natural methods of healthcare) of course problems with our culture that it has allowed (Elon Musk for example recently attributed his concern over low birth rates to Birth Control as one factor.)
My thought is, the idea that NFP is in some way morally superior or different to birth control does not seem correct as they are simply different means to the same end.
NFP is not the old rhythm method. It is aided by scientific instruments.
The church's distinction between NFP and ABC is not on the intentions of a couple but on the fact that one employs manmade devices.
Thermometers and such things are also manmade tools that NFP would not be possible without.
The intentions we do not know. A couple can use NFP with bad intentions and sin. Here is the difference. The object is different. Artificial contraception the object of each and every marital act is to block conception, therefore intrinsically evil, and always a sin. NFP the object of the act is to be open to life with each and every marital act even if there are days refrained.
@@CatholicBaseball8 I wouldn't say that going through all the effort of monitoring a woman's body closely, charting etc is being "Open to life."
All of that effort is being spent to minimize the chance of conception as much as possible, and the couple's intention is to not conceive. If their intention was to conceive, they would not be spending all that effort and scheduling intimacy as they do with NFP.
It is really being duplicitous. They are following a certain ruleset in how they are intimate because that form of intimacy is "open to life" but they have taken significant effort the eliminate the potential for life to result as much as possible.
It is the same with artificial birth control methods. They minimize but do not fully eliminate the chance of conception.
@@JackJones-dz8ye again you are talking about intentions. According to Humae Vitae 10 couples can for serious reasons postpone pregnancy. When using contraception it is a sin in the object of the act, the act itself. Contraception frustrated the marital act and is always a sin, while postponing the act in NFP for serious reasons there is no sin.
@@CatholicBaseball8 Intentions do matter in Catholic morality and have bearing on a person's culpability for sin. Consider that the church even does not consider the taking of a human life to always be a sin. It is the circumstances in which it occurs that determine if the action is sinful or not. If in self defense, it is no sin. If not in self defense, but for some other reason it is a sin.
The object is exactly the same, it is the intentions and circumstances that determine if there was a sin.
In the case of both NFP and ABC, conception was avoided with the aid of artificial instruments.
And note that NFP is different from the rhythm method.
The old rhythm method was simply postponing intimacy.
NFP requires scientific instruments and such things however. It is distinct from merely postponing intimacy.
@@JackJones-dz8yeI asked a theologian Ron Conte and he says "Murder is intrinsically evil; the object is the deliberate direct killing of an innocent human being. Self-defense has the object of protecting innocent life."
In my parish, as I look out at the parishioners, there is no doubt birth control is practiced. Families are not large. I personally am acquainted with these people and they are kind, responsible, giving, Christ centered, charitable and fantastic people.
This presentation seems narrow, judgmental and rigid.
I don't make the rules i just enforce them, Mary. If you have an issue with it, take it up with God.
@@TheReligiousHippie I would ask a response more open to discussion with the original poster.
The original poster does raise a worthy point of discussion.
I have a background in traditional Catholicism. I was raised in it and fully immersed in the rigorous aspects of Catholicism. Religion wasn't something I found later in life.
Simply following rules rigorously did not produce Godly people. I got to see how many people were influenced by this environment. A lack of charity and love in this setting was detrimental to the faith lives of many.
And if you read 1 Corinthians 13, St. Paul makes a powerful point that without love, all traditions, rules, and other aspects of Faith are meaningless.
Tradition and such things are important to our faith, but the root of Christianity is Love, Compassion, and Kindness.
The enemies of Jesus himself, the Pharisees, were those who most rigorously followed rules, but were not compassionate toward others.
Hmmm. Listen to my doctor? Or ignore her prescription in favor of advice of a naif with no medical training? Decisions, decisions...