Dona Drake the African American who fooled the world.. was it worth it?
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- Dona Drake the African American who fooled the world.. was it worth it?
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I grew up in Hollywood, was even born on Sunset Blvd and you're right about the sinister nature of the film industry. My mother would have been in the middle of all that stuff she looked like Dorothy Lamour when she was young and won many beauty pageants how even my grandmother wouldn't let her do films because the studios wanted to do degrading stereotyped parts so no film career for my mom she had four of us kids instead and raised us.
I am shocked you keep saying that Dorothy was Marilyn’s muse and honestly feel you should stop saying that cause one it’s not true, two Marilyn based that persona on dumb woman so you saying that is like saying that Dorothy was dumb which she wasn’t nor did Dorothy ever play dumb! Frankly I find it sad to say that cause Dorothy was anything but that! Think this narrative you are pushing is desecrating, Dorothy Dandridge image. This is all love girl trust me I have been subscribed to you for years but I have to keep it real with you.
Can you do the lady in the imitation of life.please amazing film.❤
Honestly...u can see her black features even though she was able to pass. Just freaking beautiful.
@extrashotofespresso_ baby...her cheek bones and eyes are every bit of black. That facial structure is everything. "They" don't have definition like that.
I can see that she is not completely white.
A trained eye will sèe.
She looks like Beyonce.@@extrashotofespresso_
@@extrashotofespresso_don’t tell me your one those that believe all blacks looks like lupita very darkskin nappy hair I hate the fact you guys think when blacks are light we don’t look black
This woman definitely looks biracial and is gorgeous!
Right. I'm like she gives lightskin black woman. You can for sure tell
Tbf a lot of mexicans are biracial and even multiracial, so it wasn't so far from the truth. I can understand why she chose Mexico.
she's hideous on the inside
@@odethtoledo4568Rumor has it that Salma Hayek is a biracial from Louisiana who pretends to be Mexican and Lebanese
Not really, they fixed her to look all white. the only thing that gave it away was the texture of her hair when she wasn't all made up.
her leading a white band and tricking everyone was lowkey a power move😭
Good for her 👏
It really was god bless my ancestors soul😂
all because of wanting a better life at that time
"Hollywood is a movie of it's own". Well said! So true.
Right
There’s a show called Hollywood on Netflix about this
agree
My grandmother had an opportunity to passed for white but she loved being a black woman and wanted to live in her truth! I salute her for telling me never be ashamed of who you’re.
EVERYONE LIVES THEIR TRUTH - I PASS to support MY PARENTS AND FAMILY -I do not care if someone does not approve-CEST LA VIE
Life is complicated. I can't condemn people who chose to pass rather than be limited or accept discrimination because of bigotry.
@@pierrerochon7271 it's your life but in this day and age?I could understand it yrs ago when black people could not get good jobs but it's your life and I hope that if you're exposed that you can handle the consequences I know of a situation back in the seventies where a woman's white husband divorced her when he found out she was black and then you could have a child that looks undeniably black genes are unpredictable good luck with your masquerade I will include you in my prayers
That's because your grandmother loved and respected herself to each his own but I don't think anyone with a drop of self respect would pass for white when you deny who and what you are whatever it is black Jewish latino gay etc you are committing a form of suicide the mask that you have to wear as you masquerade gets HEAVY!!!!
Sorry, but if you pass for white then you are white. So weird how we call mixed race people black with only one black relative. I have a white relative 7 generations ago… and Im I a white person that can pass black?! Very silly concept. Race is based on phenotype
Passing is not always a matter of being ashamed of your heritage, but a means to make a better life for you, your relatives, and your children/descendents.
My grandmother was mixed and passed to get a job. She was a seamstress and the factories in Philly wouldn't hire black women. And it was piece work, you worked every day and was paid by the number of pieces you completed. My grandmother told me she would rougue her cheeks and lips and wouldn't talk. She had absolutely no shame in it. She was divorced and had two children to feed, my mother and uncle. '❤❤
Sad facts
@yeshuasbeloved549. Keep believing that… but it’s not only a lie, but a cowardice. Every time a person authenticates a document or verbally asserts that they are white, and they are not, it is a Lie. Read the final destination of all liars in Revelation 21:8. Surely with a tag like yours , you are somewhat familiar with the Word of God. Case closed.
@yeshuasbeloved549. Perhaps not always a matter of being ashamed, but certainly in my opinion a cowardice way to provide.. Nevertheless, “pretending “ to be white when one is not .. IS a Lie. The practice of pretense solidifies one as a Liar. And judging from your tag, surely you are familiar with biblical text that declares All liars will have their part in a very hot Lake with others that practice sin. Revelation 21:8. No disrespect to anyone, but I have spoken the Gospel Truth whether people like it or not.
@@SDC1949Why are you trying to act all high n mighty
I have never heard of Dona Drake. She is Beautiful. Thank you for putting this together. Specially by it being black history. 365 BLACK ❤
We only ever hear about Dorothy Dandridge. I was given Dorothy's biography by my black mom as a teenager, to reinforce confidence in my mixed heritage as one of only three black girls at an all white high school. To be truthful I was lucky. My classmates considered me one of their own, were uniquely inclusive and never made me feel otherized.
It's wonderful to know their were many other afro-descended actresses trying to stake their claim in Hollyweird and so, so very sad she had to wear a white mask to do it. Look how beautiful and talented she was.
I remember it was very, very important to both my black mother and white father (Civil Rights advocates) that my sister and I, NOT try to pass as anything other than exactly who we were. We were made to watch the film "Imitation of Life" many times, I guess to warn us that denial of our racial identity would only lead to regret.
Marilyn put herself on the line for Ella Fitzgerald refusing to enter a club unless Ella was able to walk through the front door and not through the kitchen.
Marilyn Monroe was such a good person. 😢
Humphrey Bogart, I believe went to bat for Lena Horne ,so she could live in Beverly Hills!
@@franettesparks9949 that's really sweet of him. He also went out to bat for artists banned during the McCarthy Era.
Hollywood and the world has been a better place because Marilyn Monroe was here❤
Marilyn did the same for Black people when weren’t even famous. There is a picture of her laughing with two Black men who were working on one of her films and when the studio saw it they were going to fire them and threatened her career. She told them that if they fired those guys she wouldn’t return to the set and they backed down and left the men and her career alone.
My grandmother told me this was a norm. I remember we went to a family reunion and I was like “mom who these white folks” it tickled her so much!!! She was “Gal these black folks”. Lol fooled the hell out of me 😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am cracking up. I'm Bi-racial; I was walking down the street with an old boyfriend and one of his friends called him and said, " who was that white girl you was walking with"? Me: WHITE?? let me go stand in the Sun cause 🤨🤣
Yall are losers calling white ppl with mixed heritage "black"
This happens in my Haitian family as well. I was shocked to see my aunts and uncles. It was disturbing
I had a similar experience. We had a family reunion on my mother’s side of the family and I was seeing all these fair skinned people with green and gray eyes and blonde and sandy brown hair and I asked my mother why these white people were at our family reunion and she said they’re not white they’re your cousins and I was amazed. I learned that day that black people run the gamut from the lightest light to the darkest dark and all are beautiful.
@@christinajennings3826actually they are part white. So why are you trying to disrespect that part of their lineage?
I ain't mad at her. She had to do what she had to do. Much respect.
I understand, my grandmother on my mother’s side was half black/half white.
Back when they had colored and white restroom at filling stations(gas station) with my grandmother we went in to use the bathroom and my grandmother stopped and pause as if not knowing which bathroom to go to and the white man ask her what was wrong she said I am trying to figure out which one to go to. The white man behind the counter told my grandmother that she could go to either one of the bathrooms she wanted to go to. I will never forget that I am 77 years old now . A lot of things happen that was kept hinden back in those days. I did a DNA with African ancestry and found out that I am 100% match to a maternal woman of indigenous ancestry on my mother side who would not talk to me about it b4 she died. SECRETS I am going to find out my heritage.
I know how you feel about the 'SECRETS' I have been doing family history and the roadblocks and just general lies, and, of course, the "MIND YOUR BUSINESS" statement throw-in hasn't helped or stopped me.
I hope you find all the answers that you’re looking for. I haven’t gone or been through any of that but if you saw me clearly, lol I’m straight black but I have people in my family this high yellow, freckles, red hair, albinos questions and it is what it is butit is what it is like I said, but I hope you find all your answers
@@lisajones8074 You might be fooled by going by color. I have a friend who is a Sam Jackson lookalike, and when his kids got his DNA done he was 40% Irish and 60% Sub-Saharan (Wolof I think). He is from the Caribbean and the island he is from had Irish settlers as the only white people and the rest Africans.
It’s a damn shame that she had to “pass” in the first place.
No one “has” to pass .. it is a choice; Albeit, a shameful one.
Some Black men and women still choose to pass in this day and time.
@pj3770 plenty of people who are >/=50% white "passing" as black nowadays. What's the difference?
True it is sad.But people want the benefits of it .Unfortunately, I get why.Especially back then.
EXACTLY! And we must not forget about ADAM CLAYTON POWELL JR. HE was assumed to be everything except a black man but he stood on his BLACKNESS,AND WAS VERY PROUD OF WHO HE WAS TOO! I simply loved the man for his boldness and charisma!
She looks like the creole ladies in my New Orleanian family🤷🏾♀️. I can detect a black person no matter how light they are.
I too can when I saw Halsey I thought she was mixed.
Me too
Interesting… because it always come through and you can always tell. Very very beautiful woman.
@@badgirlhollywood9741how ??
Me too. Chile, all through our families. We are a very mixed race. Here in Texas, and Louisiana I see folks that look like her. It is, what it is.
Her dance moves alone gave credence to her ethnicity!. Thanks for the video, keep up the good work!
The first thing I noticed, she didn't have the inherently insipid Becky moves
You are all dumb@@jagbrit3723
Anyone in can tell by her physical dancing that she’s learned from Katherine Dunham.
Blackness is ethnicity now?
I'm so happy that you have these videos...I'm 61 and NEVER heard about these ladies. Such sad stories.!
What a stunning woman. It is such a shame that she had to hide her true identity to be successful.
I for one do not buy into this "racist propaganda" of "passing". She was not hiding herself but reinventing herself.
Everyone has a God given right to the "pursuit of happiness". Personally as a mixed woman I find someone who would identify me as "passing", equivalent to calling blacks the "N" word. Yes that's just how vulgar it is.
It's like a slithering snake throughout history to persecute, constrict and cast shame upon people who were simply exercising their dual heritage to pursue their happiness.
And I truly believe those who continue to perpetrate this persecution will suffer. A day of reckoning is coming.
Freddy Mercury same story. Queen was and still is the bomb
True!
U would too if it meant an easy life.
Would u tell people u was black back then. Many of them would have abused u
Today its considered "Selling-out"
Several years ago I auditioned for X-Factor. I made it to the 3rd round of auditions and a few of the staff came into the room where about 300 of us were waiting, and told us that we needed to come up with our back story to impress the judges. They also told us the more emotional we were, the better. People literally started "testing" out fake sad stories with each other and sharing techniques on how to cry. I felt like I was in the Matrix on Mars. When I got in the room with the judges, sang, and then shared by normal life and I was immediately rejected. I sang well but my story didn't grab them. Oh well. 🤷🏽♀️😭😭
Right their lost haha 🤎
Yup! Same thing happened when I made it to the next round for America’s Top Model.
That's how American Idol did me in 2009! Your story is like play-by-play of what happened to me! 😂😅
Damn shame.
Same thing happened to me with X Factor. My back story wasn't sad enough. This mess was CRAZY. I'M SO SORRY that happened to you, I was hoping nobody else went through that, cause it almost broke my heart
What a beauty who cares what color skin someone is. Her beauty really shined through. So many black beauties who had to pretend to be who they weren't. That is truly sad. Be who you are.
Evidently, you are not Black.
She has white and black heritage. Why are people who are mixed black and white always told to only embrace the black ? The term "passing " was created by white racists to stop people with mixed heritage from having equal rights with white people, yet here we are so many years later with some black people reenforcing the same ideas.
My great grandmother went through something like this from a very early age. She was Hispanic born in the Southwestern US, after her mother died she was put up for adoption and was adopted by a white family. She then had to pass as white for decades (even changed her name) until she was an adult and mother herself! In her later years when I knew her she was very proud of her ethnicity. The only thing she didn’t re-embrace was her birth name, but I think it was because she had spent most of her life with the name her adoptive family gave her that she felt more used to that.
Easy to say and do in today's world not so back then. None of us now have the right to judge them back then.
I honor her for persevering & Chasing her dreams as such a beautiful & talented young lady who worked hard & earned every penny,God.Bless her Soul
Hollywood was dark back then and it's still dark.
Arguably its got much darker...
And yet Oprah and beyonce are on their side.....as long as they are making 🤑 and yet black folks go....yas qween!🤣🤣
@@LaurenC444ITS THE SAME, ONLY DIFFERENCE IS EVERYTHING IS OUT IN THE OPEN NOW
@@myownlilbubbledon’t put all of us together I know y’all love to put us all in one basket and wonder why ppl say y’all are the racist stereotypical white ppl
Hollywood is as dark as its host country. If you think there are nations darker than the U.S., or any single country in the world has more blood in its hands, you are lying to yourself.
The fact that she had to “fool” the world to be successful is horrifying
Is that not what is happening today and is the norm, so nothing horrifying about what she did.
thats how you can get success tho it's natural
@@othellox1064 lying about your race to protect your life and career is not ok. Stop it
@@esjae2693 people lie about a lot of things and they get success, we are seeing it almost everywhere across the world and many close their eyes to the truth. The difference is they don't have any reason to unlike this woman who was in a seriously unjust system.
@@othellox1064that's a disgusting mentality
She was absolutely gorgeous!!!
I'm half black, half white. always ❤being who I am. growing up, my black sistas in my school would ask 'which side do you choose?' and I would say 'don't have to. im both. that's a fact. cant change it'. never had any problems with my race. never found it awkward to fit in anywhere. always been comfortable in my own skin. never had issues getting a job/apartment. my race has never been a hamper.
So much beauty back then and the CLOTHES! OMG THE CLOTHES were BEAUTIFUL!
"Beautiful Gowns. Beautiful Gowns."
@@BengtBagels😭😭
Just classy
Yaaaaaaasss!!!!!! Quality!
@@BengtBagelscame here to comment that 💀💀
Passing was scary back then. If you were found out, it could mean your life. 😢
If I could pass, I think I would’ve tried. Glad I was a wasn’t back then, but my time came later-now.
It was so scary that J Edgar hoover became for decades one of the most powerful men in USA despite bein bi racial and gay and people being aware of it.
@awillis244 my great grandpa could have passed, but he didn't want to. He hated them "other" folks!
Not Could.. Would
@@awillis244so you tried to pass later?
You can definitely see that she is passing. She did what she felt she needed to do to get the work she wanted.
What if that is what she felt?
You get it. You actually get it. I'm glad the internet is here now so we can start to uncover the truth about all of this - but you're also honoring the inherent talent, strength and pioneerism in the arts of Black women who never got their proper flowers while alive.
Man, Donna did some deep passing even before the studios fabricated her biography. She was not only acting on screen, she had to act in her real life.
Why are yall hating on a tri-racial woman????? She did what she had to do to survive
@@JohnBoyed-fo6fm No, I'm not hating on her. I understand that these people did what they had to do. I was just pointing out that she along with the studios made an entirely different background for her.
@@JohnBoyed-fo6fm There was absolutely no hate in that comment! - What the heck did YOU read??
The mask that one has to wear when you're hiding who and what you are gets heavy REAL HEAVY!!!
@@JohnBoyed-fo6fmAll these terms like bi racial ,tri was not used back then,you were either black or not especially someone who had 3 generations of grandparents black . Yes obviously they had admixtures which of course most AAs do due to slavery,messa doing what ever he wanted to and with those black women in slavery and after. During Dona’s time slavery was over but we were treated the same mother racism very much intact,actresses black only did maid roles or what they called black movies back then,race movies. Of course they we’re not like what big Hollywood studio’s produced,do major roles,get equal pay. Even black artist who did clubs white ones had to enter the back doors despite their names being on the marquee’s,could not mingle with wte people. Even back then so called race movies were restricted in wte movie ,some had race night,day but you had to sit in the balcony when viewing their movies away from them,a rope reminding you. Many places like the Cotton Club innHarlem had all black entertainers singers,big band greats dancer who performed for all white audiences. They were not allowed on the floor with them,mingle ,had to enter in the back door as with all other places. So what Dona did could have caused her life to be taken,or she beaten until almost unalived. Again I since you are younger,do not get this history,segregation black Americans faced that included where you can go,live,what type you could get and more ,,slavery ending way before this times did not change the mindset of those who did it,ancestors did ,it was just replaced by Jim Crow ,everywhere. Most noticing it more in the south and like now studios wanting to make money would not insult those wte audiences who if they found out could ruin their business.
I know that this is about a woman, but this reminds me of the late artist, Romare Bearden. He was a light skinned black man (pretty sure he was mixed) and he played baseball. He was offered the opportunity to play in the major leagues, but only if he passed for white to play on a specific team. He refused, quit baseball and he eventually became a well-known artist! And his art reflected the everyday lives of African Americans and black musicians, as opposed to the negative narratives we see about black people in media.
I Met him 40 years ago!
@@pzmoore007 Wow! That’s so cool 😭 What was he like?
Is he mixed or black? I thought the one drop rule was dismantled.
I didn't know Bearden as anything but an artist. Interesting story.
@@hecutsdown91 He was blue-eyed..... & blonde (as a kid)...but he considered himself 'black', ( that's an American thing..)🤜🏾💥🔥💥🤛🏾.
You do some great video's @KarineAlourde. It so sad the level of ignorance that existed and still exists. Unfortunately, I've seen this all too close up. My grandmother and mother where very light-skinned and were mistaken for being White. And sometimes, they would have to play the part. I can't imagine the mental stress doing so full-time. Well done, young, lady! Keep it up.
I am new to your channel Karine and I just wanted to let you know that you have THE VERY BEST pictures for every video that I have seen on TH-cam and I really love and appreciate that! Thank you!👍❤️
Hollywood is a monster .
To this day!
Agreed!
❤❤ You are correct.
And those in the industry are just as guilty.
Many black and white artist work together and collaborate on many projects.
But when the project is over and the light are “down”, the separation is still there .
And it’s 2024.
Best statement so far 👌👏
Definitely
So many of these classic starlets were SO UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL. Even our celebrities TODAY don't look like them. They all look kissed by the divine.
“Kissed by the divine”….love how you put it that way ✨
Most of the people back then were on a whole different diet and beauty regiment in the America’s. If we went back to that allot of us would look the same
A lot also had cosmetic surgeries
I just stumbled upon your page today, and I'm a new follower! Your intro was everything and more... nothing in Hollywood is real! Sadly, those that "make it", sell their souls to do so. As far as the background stories and deciet about race is sad. It wasn't just in Hollywood back in the 40's and 50's where people lied about their race to pass as something "more acceptable". I have a Mexican great-uncle who lied, telling my great-grandparents he was Spanish (it was more regal and higher class), so that he could date and marry my great-aunt. Crazy!
These women who pass also led to the idea that lighter skinned black women were more beautiful than darker skinned women - this thinking prevails through the decades.😮
I think the blonde hair makes her even more striking because of how unusual it looks with her features. She’s gorge
Maryland Monroe had a Mexixan dad but nobody ever talks about it most people still don't know about it
@@sarahcarr4294she didn’t. it was her mom who was a white lady but happened to be born in mexico. her dad was also white.
@@celina6438 And you know this to be the absolute truth because?
@@celina6438 no her dad was Mexican and nobody knows who he was as to keep that a secret but to me it’s obvious her curves and facial features look it too plus her natural hair color was dark and she dyed it blonde
It doesn’t look ‘unusual’ because all the photos & videos are in black & white-so they could all get away with it.
WOW! Never heard of her. Thank you for shedding light on the lesser known starlets! ❤
You are so welcome! Her story is definitely worth knowing ❤
First time I'm hearing about her too. Beautiful lady.
@@GoddessOfLove-pr7ek She was a beauty yet her life was way too TUMULTUOUS! May Dona Drake and her only child Nia rest in peace. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️
@@danavixen6274 Yes definitely 💯 In loving memory of Dona and her daughter Nia remain together in afterlife and rest peacefully. 🙏👑🕊️🌷🌹💐🌺
Right!
You said it in the end, she disassociated, she never stopped being in character, so her true identity was buried so deeply she never got to be herself. Great video, I'm subscribing to hear more stories ❤️🌹🌸💐
Wtf are all you yanks saying? You are bonkers.
Not all chose to pass. Fredi Washington for example had the opportunity but chose not. She played Peola in Imitation of Life - a film about passing. She told reporters in 1949 that she identified as Black "...because I'm honest, firstly, and secondly, you don't have to be white to be good. I've spent most of my life trying to prove to those who think otherwise ... I am a Negro and I am proud of it." - so people did chose to pass but those with pride and strength of character chose not to.
Fredi Washington is commendable n courageous but in those times I can't say others who pretended 2 b white were any less brave! Life was hard n if u had a chance 2 do something u took it, not just acting, anything! These people did what they had 2 do 2 survive in a world that hated them n the price of being found out could easily have cost them their life! Terrible way 2 have 2 live n deny what u r! 2 day we can stand proud only because black people have fought 4 every single right n broken down so many barriers but even after all we have achieved... things ain't changed cept u don't have 2 pretend 2 b white!
My family could pass too but they chose not to.
My favorite movie: Imitation of Life in black and white.
She certainly played the part in that movie … so well that those images of the character’s treatment of her own mother stayed with me for decades .. and my utter disdain for people like that as well.
I myself can pass also. I get treated so much differently when folks think I'm "white". I have to correct people and let them know my father is what we call Afro Latino man and half Nigerian. Personally, I will never try to pass for white because I'm very proud of my Black and African side of my family. My folks had 10 children. We all look different because of our blood lines but we definitely know where we come from and we love it. I have 6 children, their father is Black American and Nigerian. When people who don't know my family see me with my children they automatically think I'm just a friend of theirs. They don't believe I'm their mother(my children are adults now with their own children) and many think that my children have different fathers once they find out they are my actual children. It's really sad how people treat and view Black folks compared to white foks
It looked like she lived everyday in pain, under that talent and smile. Hollywood is a Beast.
I doubt it. She enjoyed every minute under her white lovers.
Ur right
Hollywood is just a product of society.
💯💯💯
Yes. I. Knew. But. Folks. Don't. Want. Mercy. On. Goidlooing. Blacks. They. Want. Folks. Too. Have. No. Mercy. Because. She. Has. Those. Looks. So. When. U. Look. This. Good. Everybody. Wants. U. Too. Sufuur. Suffur. Suffur. So. That's. Nothing. We. Can. Do. About. Theses. Powerful people. But. This. Young. Lady. Is. Definitely. Redeeming. The. People. That. Cause. Goidlooing. Blacks. So. Much. Pain. N. Suffering. Shout. Out. Too. The. New. Generation. N. Shout. Out. Too. You. Tube.
Thank you so much, Sister Queen Karine, your videos are so well done. Keep shining! I love you!
Thank you, Karine, for this and all your other videos.
GOD bless you.
My grandmother’s cousin passed for white, abandoned her family, and married a politician who went on to become Vice President of the US. I don’t think it ever came out that she was actually black.
What was her and her husband’s names?
Interesting
Happy Rockefeller? She certainly looked like a light skinned black woman.
👀 what year he became VP?
Can you give the VP's initials?
A person can be Hispanic of any race. There are white Hispanics, Black Hispanics, mestizo Hispanics, etc. However, in this case, being born in Mexico only makes Marilyn’s mom’s nationality Mexican, not her ethnicity.
Hispanics, regardless of appearance, are all multiracial. Descended from European, Africans and Indigenous people. It's 2023, we have DNA results delivered to our emails and you all are still allowing yourselves to be manipulated by non factual ideas from the 1700 and 1800s. MIMS.
Yes, however most Mexicans are mestizos.😂
You see Marilyn's body? She's mexican😂 that woman had curves
@@rebeccaskylar8430she was a white American woman who’s White American mom just so happened to be born in Mexico. My friend is mestizo Mexican and doesn’t have curves at all. Curves don’t belong to only one certain group of women.
@@lauren1937 she was Mexican.
Such a fascinating and sad story, great video Karine 👌🏿👑
Flowers 💐 thank you for this awesome video.
You can be Mexican and white, the two are not mutually exclusive. You can be Mex and Black, etc. Salma Hayak is Mexican and Arab. Just like an American can be any race, ethnicity, race or combination/mix of ethnicity or races, so can Mexicans. To be Mexican is a nationality, and not a racial designation. Lupita Nyong'o is Mexican because she was born there to parents from Kenya. She has Mexican and Kenyan nationality, she's Mao Mao ethnically, being from Sub Saharan Africa, she's also Black.
This. ❤
Exactly
I see underlying DARK heritage in Marilyn Monroe..
SO TRUE!!! I'm glad that you posted this. Agree, as you wrote, one can be white and Hispanic, etc.
Perfectly said. I’m sick of people thinking that being Mexican, Hispanic and even Spanish means having darker skin. The ignorance is apalling!
It’s so interesting how some will try to pass while others will deny their white blood. My grandfather was half Cherokee and half Irish- Scottish he looked like a pure white man but being adopted and raised by a black woman he adapted to black culture and even told people be was black and would actually get annoyed when people called him white which was hilarious to me because he was white 😂 wonderful tribute ❤
Wait .. this is the same story of my great grandmother
@@lavathesaint Oh wow his sister was given up for adoption with him as well her name was Alice.
@@empresslove2211 Imagine this is you meeting your long lost cousin
@@justdont2378 that would be amazing and you never know, my family’s story is quite interesting. My great grandmother (Irish-Scottish) wanted to marry a German man whom did not want her mixed breed babies (my grandfather & my great Aunt) the mixed breed being the half Cherokee so they were given up for adoption. My grandfather and his sister actually stayed in contact with the children of their mother and the German man. They moved from Washington and lost contact (60’s) I always laugh about how I have an entire white side of family out there I do not know. 😊
Bad parenting she should of taught him
Blessings: keep up the good work as our narrator. We luv you!
Karine, you are a great narrative, love it🎉
She’s gorgeous. Some pics she looks white, some black, sometimes Latino exotic, but always beautiful. I never heard of her before.
@@extrashotofespresso_ 😕
@@extrashotofespresso_ No, it is not silly - in some of the pictures she did look white and in other pictures she looked other nationalities - Maybe it was because of the lighting in some - so that commenter is not wrong!
Latino exotic 😂😂😂
Y’all say anything on this app. She doesn’t look black on not a single picture. That’s a white woman
@@virtualwhispersshe looks mixed. You can’t look black, white, Hispanic etc all at once smh
She was a knockout 🤩 I always say Hollywood is smoke and mirrors nothing is what it seems but I see how people get involved in drugs and alcohol. A lot of people passed it’s heart breaking 💔
All i can say is...wow. I would have never known this if i didnt find this channel that explains good stuff. Thank you for sharing this video. ❤
What wonderful work you do! Really great research!
She reminds me of Vanessa Williams.
💯 as well as that lady Giselle Bryant from Potomac
I thought the same thing.
Most of the angles she looked like Shirley Temple in her early 20s.
Yeh she does too ✨
I see Michael Michelle more than anyone else.
Stunning! 🤩 Dona reminds me of Vanessa Williams, Eartha Kitt & Rihanna wrapped into one.
Certain pictures she looks exactly like Williams.
You are totally correct.
Funny that you say that cuz I think she looks like Andra Day who people say also looks like a mix of Eartha Kitt and Rihanna!
@@Rob774 absolutely
@@HoneySwtDrms yesss…I see the resemblance too. Stunning ladies!
SHE WAS GORGEOUSSSSSSSS
So important! Thank you.
No matter what she was made of IDK. What she was IS STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL.
I mean she's blk 🤷🏽
Not the point. RACE is a made up concept anyway to promote racism. The fact she had to do it in this country is pathetic and wrong. Our history is a cruel.
Thank you that's why I don't understand why people are hating on her. All because she was multiracial she didn't ask to be born white or black
Facts
@@JohnBoyed-fo6fmnobody’s hating on her? Y’all throw this word around way too loosely
My best friend is white passing and I tell her don’t let know any better. She confirms the different treatment she gets if they think she white as opposed to mixed, and this is 2024 people!
It is SO different. I live in the UK right now, but when I’m in the US mixed me vs white me are treated completely different.
Conservative and liberal people are condescending and patronising to me when I’m mixed. If they think I’m white, they treat me with much more respect and have a much less limiting narrative in their heads, for me when they think I am White. When I’m mixed they tend to assume I don’t know who my father was, I grew up with poverty, I am uneducated etc etc. People are so ignorant 😂
I really enjoy telling them “ I am half black“. Let’s me know a lot about them. Some have literally never spoken to me again after that. Others just look 🫨.
Your poor friend has succumbed to yt supremacy programming...so sorry to hear that... but let's be honest her mom is most likely not black
Yeah. I have a friend who passes. I mean she acknowledges who she is, but to me it's only when it's a convenience to her. I didn't even know that she was black until she mentioned it. She has a lot of Amish clients. They are very particular who they deal with, and trust me, she hides that she's part black because she knows that if they knew, she would not be able to work with them. She said the things that they say about us is horrible, yet she'll sit there and listen without saying anything, because she looks so white smh
So sad
She is white, not passing. That means white is dominant in her genetics.
Just gorgeous! Beauty comes in all shades! ❤
WOW, What a amazing research, thank you so much for sharing this with us 💐 what courage she had!!
I’d never heard of Dona…she was beyond beautiful!!!!
Yeah that's what I'm saying she was beautiful. But not in the sense of an Afrocentric way that people present. Like we know like Afrocentric beauty. But she doesn't really make that cut
Me too, I’ve never heard of her either, but yes-Beautiful!!!
Marilyn Monroe had no Mexican heritage whatsoever. Her mother, Gladys Pearl Monroe, was born in Mexico because her parents happened to be there. Her father was a railway worker from Minneapolis and her mother was from Arkansas, and they relocated to Los Angeles when Gladys was a child.
lol its funny cuz the people think she really is mexican but there is no found mexican in her 😭
@@user-wt2og1hr7yWell, how you suppose to find Mexican in her if she’s dead
Look up "Define Mexican." Since her mother was born in Mexico and she was born in the United States, she would be considered a white U.S. American of half Mexican descent.
not decent, nationality.
@@CreoleTioGioMexican is a person from Mexico or a citizen of the USA who has both Mexican parents.
Marilyn was NOT Mexican.
As a Black woman, I see a Black woman in her. She reminds me of women on my mother's side of the family, some of whom did "pass" back in the day. Thank you for another informative piece, Karine. I appreciate the work that you put into this channel.
Thank you so much for your videos!
It’s hard for people to understand that it’s not easy for someone who passes-you never quite fit anywhere, and people always try and tell you where you do smh 🤦
Dandrige was STUNNING!
The stress she had to live with had to be overwhelming.
Im black simple grandma who i love as mom is a 🖤 black, woman,but Dad side Cuba ❤
I knew about her years ago…I often wonder how she lived her later years when her time in Hollywood was over. That was a struggle to be able to hide her black heritage.
Her life made me think of the movie The Imitation of Life. 💐
Yes it does
Never heard of it I’ll have to watch it ☺️
@@ashleyshayia8087watch the one with Juanita Moore and Lana Turner. Much better than the first one.
The movie crossed my mind too!💕
@@ashleyshayia8087Get some tissues. There are two versions. I like the one from I think 1959.
Your channel isn't just about dissecting entertainers, but it's also a nice study in sociology and history. Really good stuff; thank you so much for your hard work!
Yes. I realised this too.
Thanks for this bio, I saw Kansas City Confidential as part of a film noir collection I have and I saw it immediately in her features, as well her beauty and those gorgeous eyes, and she had an accent which was very believable, i didn’t realize until this bio that she was so famous, nor of her life story, thank you!❤❤
Fredi Washington is one of my favorite old Hollywood actresses!! And she was an activist and a proud Black woman, God bless her. ❤
One of my great grandfather's passed as white but still married my beautiful dark skinned great grandma and gave her a nice life. One of my cousins looks a lot like this lady. We have lots of light eyed kids in my family even though both parents are African American on both sides of my family.
That’s the beauty of genes, you never know what you’re gonna get. My white boyfriend is mostly italian, Irish and French genetically but some of his family members look vastly different from him, as in different races. and both his parents are white.
Edit: Obviously some people here are brain dead. I quite literally stated that he’s WHITE of French, Italian and Irish ancestry. What’s so confusing?
Italian. Irish and French is not a race it’s a nationality. If he’s white then that’s his race. Race is what you are. Nationality is where you’re from. People really need to understand that.
@@lettiegrant9447 he is white. If I didn’t say anything abt his nationality why are you bringing it up? His ancestry DNA results said “Irish, French, Italian” and more. Go argue w somebody who cares
@@lettiegrant9447 “if he’s white then what’s his race” girl wtf drugs are you on? Caucasian, European, white who gives af? My point is that he’s a white man😂
@lettiegrant9447 And then there's ethnicity to further muddy the water as you can tell from the comments in this thread. So sorry someone got so defensive about your comment. Understood you were only adding clarification so the people in the back could understand. 😍
I've never heard of Dona Drake. She was beautiful. I often wonder how many modern day actors/actresses and entertainers are passing.
Ellen Degeneres.
@user-yv9fq5ym9w Huh? What could she possibly be passing as? The only thing she passed as was straight in her early career.
I had seen her pictures before but had no idea who she was. No one does a deep dive on Hollywood like Miss Alourde
Clark Gable allegedly
Someone said Vin Diesel
This was very interesting to learn! Thank you for showing us the truth ! ❤
Wow KA such a thoughtful documentation of such an intelligent, talented and beautiful person. Thank You 💯🫶
I'm so glad that you are covering this forgotten actress and entertainer. Dona Drake was more of a contract player during the Golden Age of Hollywood and never really became a household name like popular actresses of her heyday, including Bette Davis and Joan Crawford. Like Lena Horne and Dorothy Dandridge, Dona was very fair-skinned but concealed her true ethnic identity until her later years away from the limelight. Concealing one's ethnic origin was a common practice during the Jim Crow era if an entertainer possessed "negro" ancestry. Carol Channing, Merle Oberon, Shirley Bassey, and Korla Pandit, all concealed their ethnic origin for professional purposes. It was a tragic practice that fair-skinned Blacks, Middle Easterners, Asians, Indians, and Hispanics often adopted at that period when they wanted to achieve professional success!
I would say it is tragic that the laws made it so they would have to, just to legally be allowed to work certain jobs in the industry. And, that they didn't fight it as well as Bill Robinson. But, I applaud their efforts to get and remain gainfully employed against incredible odds.
Actress and singer Carol Channing was half black (from her father's side).
I believe Carol's father wasn't a part of her life but her mother did tell Carol she was part black for reasons I don't know
Unfortunately, Carol had to hide her African race in order to work in Hollywood as an actress/singer.
I can't remember what TV special that (late 1960's) Carol and Pearl Bailey starred on but they sang a duet
called "Soul Sister's".
The two women sang Soul Sisters but I would like to know if Pearl ever found out that Carol was actually half black.
Why are people hating on her????
Wait shirley bassey, who didnt know?
Wow that is a very true statement it has happened in many African American households as the result of reconstruction aftermath that echoes through society to this day every family can recall these instances in their family tree members tragic results that lasts for generations.
If she hadn’t passed, we wouldn’t even have these movie images to look at her and talk about her. She did what she had to do at that time to become the star she was born to be. ✨✨✨
Get s grip
@@MAI-lo6uj Dumb comment. Get a brain.
It’s easy to sit here today and say what you would, or would not, do if you had been in the same position. Some would have taken Ms Drake’s path and others the path of Ms Freddie Washington. Ms Washington, who played in the original Imitation of Life movie, could have passed but chose not to. Both had their reasons and both should not have to be side eyed for their choices.
@@clarencebland4861 Exactly. And that one drop rule was created so the most people as possible would qualify to be slaves - for economic reasons - and it was not based on science. If you’re 80% white DNA and look like a white person then 💡you ARE majority white and have the genetic instructions encoded in the DNA of a white person. Duh. A Blk person thinking they can tell that white looking person that they’re still black is actually laughable. They’re just repeating the one-drop rule like a mind-programmed bot, without thinking for themselves. The biology of a person - the DNA - doesn’t lie. 💯
The imitation of life... one of my fave movies and we can not blame then almost have to tip my hat!!! thank you!!!!👏🌹❤
I am amazed by how knowledgeable this Narrator is about the History of Hollywood..She should have a regular show on the History Channel 👍 Of course Hollywood would never let that happen. Great Podcast!! I'm Hooked 🎣 😊
People have no idea how mentally taxing it is navigating this world as black and brown people 💔
I love it.
It’s taxing because you most likely let it be taxing. Stop letting what others think if you dictate how you feel. I’m not saying you don’t face discrimination at times, I’m just saying Its up to you to decide how much you’re going to let it affect you. Because people can dislike/hate you for any reason, not just your heritage. And that’s on them. Feelings can and do change, so you might not be able to change how someone acts towards you, but you can change how you perceive it and how much energy it takes from you.
@@tessmolloy2388💯🙏💪🛡️🕊️
It’s even more sad that it’s unnecessarily taxing. Simply due to people choosing to be ignorant.
@@tessmolloy2388it also teaches you that most people are dumb and to not trust anyone. You just spewed a word salad for no reason. We can work on trying to make people see how stupid they are the same way racist need to see how stupid they are. We can ignore how people can feel. You can’t ignore how stupid people behave.
Giving Rihanna vibes. Stunningly gorgeous woman.
Her dancing was exceptional. Wow!
Her Black American heritage was apparent alone through her dancing!
Just so gorgeous!!! She also seemed to be spunky and extremely talented! ⭐️
She was stunning! Thank you for sharing her story. love your channel !
She kind of looks like Steph Curry’s wife to me. And it’s crazy because my mother was also passing. When my mother and father were dating people would ask him what he was doing with that white woman? At that time interracial relationships were frowned upon. He would always have to explain that she wasn’t white. Then when I was about six years old I asked my mother, “Are you really my mother?” I thought she was white too. She looked down at me and said, “Of course I’m your Mommy and you’re my baby”. I get it! Great post! Thank you for doing it.
That is so sad that you had to ask your mom if you her child. I could never imagine as a mother. Your mother is a very strong woman and thanks for sharing.
Genetics be like that sometimes 😂
I get it…I used to tell everyone my dad and cousins were white. 😂
I didn’t know any better I was so young.😂
@@kashataylor6430 Thank you, she was strong and beautiful. I miss her everyday. My mother passed away when I was 8 years old. It was very devastating and it traumatized me. You never quite get over it. Thank you again! God bless!❤️🙏🏽
@@takayasweeney Yes, my Grandmother told me that one of my uncles was almost taken from her because they thought that he was a white baby. My Grandmother was my complexion, and most of her children came out looking white. It amazes me how God created us to produce all different colors.
If we think about it, we do the same thing today as we stay in character for our jobs, professions and careers. We do want we have to do to be successful but I think in Dona's era, it was even more important and more serious consequences. This would definitely take a toll mentally over time. She was beautiful and so graceful and talented. I love her name. Millions of 🌹 🌺 🌹 to you Dona.
In the work place double consciousness is used. I think that's different from passing. A person can leave the professional etiquette at work, and be more casual outside of work. Passing is something that's done 24/7.
We don’t do sh*t! Thats y’all 🦝
I don't. I'm not ratchet, but I'm nothing other than myself at work.
Being professional doesn't equal being white. You need to actually sit down with yourself and question why you believe that acting otherwise is default black behaviour.
@@aprillee2593okay Sharquisha
Love and respect for Dona Drake. It was rough during the Jim Crow/Segregation Era for people of color whether you were a famous celebrity or a regular citizen.
Absolutely GORGEOUS
Wow I never heard of this lady before but she’s definitely beautiful 😍 💯
I feel so sad for her, I can't imagine how she felt & what mental issues it cost, RIP TO THIS BEAUTIFUL WOMAN ❤🕊️🌹
My Dad had a total of 27 brothers and sisters, many of whom he never quite remembered seeing because of the age difference. They were lighter complexed, and here is what's unique: A few of his older sisters left Mississippi prior to or shortly after his birth in 1927. They went to California, dyed their hair blond...passed for white...and eventually were never heard from again.
Thank you. I didn't know this story. It is tragic and triumphant at the same time
My grandfather could have passed. He told me soooo many stories ... but he stayed true!!! I will always love and respect my papa for that... RIP Granpa! 🫶🏾
Was your grandpa mixed?
How did he stay true of je was both black and white? Why is black always the truth? So confusing!
@@kristinaroberts8604I mean… Legally… 1/16 is what they considered. Not a matter of truth. It was a standard they created.
this is not about you or papa though!
@@kristinaroberts8604 Because they’re racist!
Marilyn's mother is white american. Her mother's parents (both of European descent) lived in an american state/neighborhood that is near to the Mexican border. They moved to a mexican border town for working reasons. They later moved back to the states.
This is exactly right. The fact that she lived in Mexico or near Mexico does not make Marilyn Mexican. She was who she was and she was an excellent actress. No need to add more mystery to her sad life.
Yes Marilyn was white
@@ignaciagarcia3917 dont make her black either
Latin Satin Doll
Spanish are white Europeans
Wow! Slavery, racism, evil! My people had to fight in a way this generation doesn't understand.