Psychotherapy Cult of Manhattan | Sullivanians Case Analysis | Dangers of Left Wing Extremism
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Saul Newton and the Sullivanians?
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My friends dad's best friend was a psychologist. He told me that, of the people who graduate with psych degrees 25% of them are a good therapist and 75% need a good therapist.
yup. our local University, UBC, all the nutcases are in that and related departments. it's a reall shit show, and NOW with "woke" and mandated hiring of "people of colour" (a US idea, NOT Canada's) we're getting nutbars through the door and they're hired for all the wrong reasons.
Amen.
I have to disagree, they all need a good therapist.
God's honest truth right there.
Lol
Saul was super creepy and I am always surprised when grown people allow these kinds of fools to tell them how to live. Once he died so did his cult. Hurah!
yea, and by sepsis... so deserving
Seems there are many people who would gladly part with their autonomy and enjoy being dictated to. Guess they needed permission to be sick and perverted. I feel for the children, they never have a choice.
His cult died.. are you sure?
Without criticizing anyone else's personal choices or beliefs, I don't understand how forced domination is attractive to anyone. Being a woman I can't comprehend being told I can't love my child. That alone enrages me.
Thank you once again for your coverage. You always bring clarity to mud soaked situations.
They can’t control their own lives so they seek out someone who can.
Masks are a great example. I bet as a parent you forced your child to do that. Masks have never shown any ability to control viruses and only have emotional manipulation and group think to enforce it. So, if you made your kid wear a mask you are capable of joining a cult like this because it appeals to the same thought processes.
The abandonment of responsibility can be very attractive to some.
youre not representative nor the ideal of women. who cares what enrages you?
I very much like "mud soaked situations!" This describes so much in today's life! Clarity is rare and Dr. Grande certainly helps clarify much that confuses and bewilders!😒😔🙄
Thank you for an interesting video, Dr Grande.
My grandfather was supposedly a communist. At least he called himself one.
Supposedly full of liberal ideas, new ideas, considered quite progressive for the time. He was educated at Princeton and at the University of Munich in the 1920s. He was genuinely active in the American communist party in the Thirties. He inherited a great deal of money which he squandered on high living and basically threw away. He never worked a job in his life. From what I can tell most of what he did for the communists was talk and instigate low-level "social disobedience." He was basically a mid-range rabble-rouser squat-stirrer.
I heard many stories about him as I was growing up. As I matured and listened more carefully to the stories about him that my mother and her sisters told, I finally realized he was not so much a genuine communist who cared about the workers of the world uniting as he was masking a massive superiority complex and sense of entitlement behind a supposed support for a "new world order." (@@.) His communism was a masquerade to feed his ego. Everything he ever espoused was ultimately only self-serving.
Eventually (particularly after I grew up and read some of his letters) I came to realize my grandfather was full of hate - he didn't so much love the poor and want to help them as he bitterly envied the rich and wanted to have even more of what they had.
The worst part of it, to my eyes, is that in the process of living out this personal agenda my grandfather cruelly neglected and abused his wife and daughters in many ways. Their lives were basically a nightmare until his death. In his effort to fulfill his personal agenda, the damage my grandfather inflicted on my family still echoes today. We are still recovering from what he did. I have to wonder if this Saul Newton and his Sullivanians also left ripples of destruction behind them after they died. I sure hope not, but I wonder.
What a fascinating yet tragic story you shared regarding your grandfather. I've often wondered how many of the younger generation who have protested publicly their similar politial beliefs have felt the same way as your grandfather. It's not so much compassion for the poor as much as it is trying to hurt successful, self-made people, as well as this notion that they'd be on the receiving end of the fall-out and would have the upper hand. There seems to be a lot of hate and jealousy with this mindset, like you mentioned. I hope your family has been able to heal and has gone on to lead happy, productive lives.
More often than not, the rich ARE despicable! Especially today in the late American empire.
I have a friend whom had grandfather kind of like that...and was a control freak whom wanted family members pay checks.
Sounds just like Marx.
@@cht2162 Don't be too hard on yourself, there are a lot of people who look for validation of their beliefs by checking for comments and/or likes to their posts. I find myself doing it too, and have noticed that it's when I'm going through some stuff emotionally and am looking for any kind of support.
Judy Collins got involved with this group for a time, and sent her son off to boarding school. He committed suicide in adulthood. It's awful to think about.
Thank you I didn't know that.
So sad. I don’t know how parents can completely reject their kids, by getting rid of them, & the damage this cold-hearted cruelty does must be severe for kids who are very young when discarded.
Judy battled the bottle for years, too, if I'm not mistaken.
A couple of her early albums were very good, when she was still a folkie.
And she did a lot to promote Leonard Cohen's songs and career.
@@janetpattison8474 ķ ?😊
My first husband knew him at that school. It was where a lot of over privileged white boys became drug addicts ( and drug dealers ). Judy lived to regret her choice to send that poor kid away.
I lived on the Upper West Side of Manhattan for many years, so I remember the Sullivanians very well. One of their members, Dr. Lenora Fulani, did run for political office, here in New York City on the Worker Party platform. She's in her seventies now, and there's been virtually no public profile of her in quite some time, but in the eighties, she was quite popular in political circles. The Village Voice newspaper did a well researched article on the Sullivanians many years ago. I remember them very well.
Interesting. I just checked Wiki, no mention of her Sullivarian links…
Lenora Fulani ... not to be confused with Lola Falana
This was before my time ( I’m only 32) but have lived in Queens NYC my entire life and am very surprised I haven’t heard of the Sullivan’s.
@@peterforsythe3643 Sir, surely you should know by now that Wikipedia is not the place to search for accurate information on a person's life. They make a lot of mistakes. I read the article about Fulani and the Sullivanians in the Village Voice, which used to be a weekly newspaper here. It folded years ago.
@@donnabailey566 You are free to edit the Wiki article and include this information about her. That's the only way info gets added. People love to complain but won't take the time to add to a Wiki.
I can't imagine even finding this type of experience tempting.
I don't get it either 🤔
IKR!🤔😝😬
The thing is, as with most cults and dogmatic organizations, a lot of people do like to follow authority and get guidance. We also like to feel part of a community.
Going out of the cult sphere for a moment, the vast majority of Germans during WW2, weren't raging racists, but they still went along with the Nazis because such is the power of society and authority.
When it's presented to you in this way, you don't find it attractive. When it's presented with all of its emotional appeal, it's quite different. Which are you, a Democrat, the party that's running us head long into socialist tyranny? Or maybe you're a Republican, the party that's marching us there more slowly. Perhaps you're one of those people who doesn't vote at all. Because both sides are awful. Except they're not awful in different ways, they're awful in exactly the same way, and your not participating, is still giving them what they want.
God me too. I can’t think of anything I would rather NOT do than join a cult. Yuk. If people are lonely they need to rescue a dog. Or a cat. 🐶❤️🐱
I can recommend Dr Arthur Deikman's book The Wrong Way Home: Uncovering the Patterns of Cult Behavior in American Society
I see his background started when he started college. I'm wondering what his experience was with his parents was that lead to his beliefs.
Great video! I've never heard of this before
Clearly no love lost between him and his mother…
His background started in New Brunswick.. so he was doomed from the beginning, like all of us from New Brunswick lol
@@AMM3. Looking forward to the doctor's video on you
@@AMM3. Get help.
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 me too! I need somebody to speculate but not diagnose my situation!
There's actually a somewhat similar, albeit more hippiesh and New Age, cult in Staten Island called Ganas. They own a couple of barely profitably businesses that sell used books, clothing, etc., which go by the name ETG, Everything That Goes.
The bookstore is actually not half bad-I bought a copy of the 2nd volume of The Gulag Archipelago there years ago.
The only book I'd buy in NYC is The Ninth Gate
Solzhenitsyn!
Ironic
Thanks for sharing that. I had no idea.
I know of Ganas? they were all having orgies as well?
One thing is for sure, Saul Newton and co. gave Harry S Sullivan a bad name viz. "Sullivanians." At the time, Sullivan, a psychiatrist, emphasized psycho-social context in the understanding of psychopathology and mental health (rather than the in vogue, organic psychiatry). He was a fresh voice at the time
Even though cults are abhorrent, they do provide a sense a community and idealism that many people identify themselves with. However, that’s only a fantasy which most of the time does more harm than good. It robs people of seeing reality as it is and it also deprives them of appropriate tools to face the world. I have seen many stories of people who left cults, and the damage is real. I have also seen some success stories, people who rebuilt their entire lives after being in cults since birth.
In regards to this particular cult, their ideas were really out there. I disagree with each single idea they proposed.
Brilliant analysis, thank you Dr. Grande.❤️
I don't know if you're old enough to remember how bad cults got in the late seventies and early eighties. There seemed to be so many, that sucked in the kids of rather successful people. It seemed as profitable, to be a deprogrammer, and go in and kidnap these young adults, and get them back to reality, as it was to be a cult leader. It was a huge indicator of how we had broken down as a civilization.
Looks like if you replied to me, TH-cam censored you.
@@chuckrobinson599 Hi there! No I didn’t answer to you, I saw this message while getting ready to work and didn’t have the time to respond. Either way, I think you pointed out something interesting which I didn’t know.
@@chuckrobinson599 I find all cults to be a tragedy in someone’s life. It’s such a manipulative way to dominate people who are vulnerable to begin with.
You see, whatever side of the political spectrum you may be sitting on, when you start telling people what to do you aren't doing life right.
Exactly.
The problem is the delusional moral superiority these people feel. They see themselves as truth, and that truth should be thrust upon people. It happened with Salem, it's happening with wokeness.
Very true.
The farther you sit to the right, the less you tell people what to do. The farther left, the more you need control. You see, there is no such thing as a right wing dictator, nobody has to be told, don't pay government so much of your money. It's when government wants more, they take it at gun point.
@@chuckrobinson599 Isn't the Left/Right dimension orthogonal to the Authoritarian/Libertarian dimension?
This kinda reminds me of the insane LaRouche cult. You should do a video on that
The funny thing about LaRouche is he looks pretty moderate compared to these here Q-Anon people!
@@maxshea1829 Q-Anon strikes me as an internal cult inside what's left of your mind. And no sex, it's almost British.
I grew up in a cult called the Children of God and I'm in shock at how similar these two groups are.
All cults work the same game. It's effective.
I grew up in a bit of a cult... It's very disturbing how similar they are.
I've read and seen documentaries of this cult, I'm glad you are ok. Or at least ok enough to see the wrongness. 🙏❤️
Do you mind if I ask whether your parents were part of it whether you keep in touch with them now?
That's tragic. COG is especially vile because they sexually prey on people beginning in early childhood.
There was a psycotherapycult in Vancouver Canada, on the North Shore to be exact. Very secret bunch and I was approached at a very vulnerable time in my life. They wanted power over anyone who employed them. They actually told me they would 'allow'me to go to europe. At the time I just stared blankly and it didn't occur to me until years later their delusioned ideas. Hopefully they aren't still following me around or something. Yikes! I only had three sessions with a woman at their office who seemed to have to run everything by her husband. I went back to find the office years later they had vanished. I wanted to find out who they were after thinking how wierd they were. Anybody who wants that kind of control over vulnerable people are creepy. I have often gotten fooled by controlling people, thinking they cared! Live and learn.
I live an hour away from Vancity so this is interesting.
Getting ready for work in the morning with Dr Grande.
Sydney Australia 7am 🤟🇦🇺
Hope you have a wonderful rest of your day 😊✌️👍
Never heard of this cult. Always the men who believe in as many partners as possible. Terrible cults control so much. Always interesting to hear your excellent points. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛
Actually reminds me of Scientology in many ways, and Scientology is a very rightwing cult. The orgies were probably an improvement over Scientology's fixation on coercing very young SeaOrg members to get married. Hygienically, the orgies were more problematic, however.
Yes! The reasons of the leaders so often fall into the same selfish patterns! Have perspective members never heard of other cults? Wolves and sheep!🐺🐏
@@bthomson Great points!🧡👍 Yes all the leaders very selfishly motivated, one would think cult members know they aren't safe...🐺🐑
And how sad that is! They go to the cult for safety and family and end up betrayed!🐺🐏
@@bthomson exactly! Our school system needs to teach kids how to avoid traps like this.
Hello Dr. Grande, I kind of agree loneliness is one of the most painful feelings that humans experience. I found it disturbing not to allow children to stay with their parents. Also strange is to have the cult members have sex with different members. Sounds like brainwashing. Once again a very well-presented video and I love your humor. Best Regards.
Interesting case, I do wonder what may have triggered Saul's desire to reject the nuclear family and childhood bonding with parents. That case shows how easily a charismatic person with pathological personality traits and warped beliefs can attract vulnerable people to join a community that embraces those beliefs.
I think it also shows the importance of family, if a person is to grow up to not be a victim.
maybe he was screwed over by his parents, and developed hatred for parenting
Maybe he was a spoiled, narcissist who found an ideology to channel his unprocessed issues into and avoid his problems whilst still being convinced he was a good person, 'on the side of history' and helping rather than dealing with his problems like a proper grown up boy.
Charles Manson would take children away from couples in his cult and give them to another couple to raise instead because he said parents were inherently harmful to their children. Is it really a surprise when you consider how his own parents were? Not really. But who knows? Could be as simple as Saul was a contrarian to mainstream beliefs and it was just another way of holding power over people. Could be his parents were totally normal and he was just a bad person. Definitely interesting how people will take an ideology and use it to harm others.
Rejection of the nuclear family in favor of “community raising” is a common trope of the far left. The reason is that they see the nuclear family as enabling the capitalist system and unable to raise children to be good communists
Am very curious to see how the children turned out. From my understanding, kids who fail to bond with a parent figure at an early age develop psychopathic or BPD tendencies.
JL: No, the result is the development of Attachment Disorder or Reactive Attachment Disorder.
BPD is more likely in the girls, and the boys become psychopaths, yeah but it takes a bit more, an attachment disorder is a lovely place to start though.
@@KB4QAA yes, that's the initial diagnosis in children, but if left untreated, can lead to psychopathic/sociopathic tendencies or antisocial personality-type disorders.
@@FearMyLadyBits or CPTSD/ anxiety and depression.
Or they heal and become helpers.
Ok, so did this could influence LRon Hubbard cult? It sounds A LOT like their treatment of people.
Better not call Saul 😟
"I am not aware of any other cults that emphasize psychotherapy in this way."
....Hellllooooo L. Ron Hubbard!
One thing I know for sure, I’m not cult material. “You can’t do this. You can’t do that.” Nope, not going to work for me!
Fascinating content. I just watched The Soft White Underbelly new TH-cam video about a Rabbi's daughter who escaped and describes the cult like existence. This is so interesting. Thank you Dr. Grande! I love your channel ❤
That's a unique channel
Me too!
I wish Mark titled that video a bit differently because I have yet to watch the video; thinking it was some Jewish Rabbi guys daughter and it had nothing to do with this cult.
Torah learning is a righteous person's calling. It started with Adam and eve.
@@MrBryan247 All religious texts were written by man. The video I watched explained how the rituals were so restrictive, coerced into pregnancy etc. You should watch the video to understand. She's brave, well spoken and intelligent.
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening in a New York borough like this.
Knowing my luck I'll be reincarnated as me again...
Maybe, because I'm not a physician.
@@orangemangas2465 That's what happened last ime.
@@BigZebraCom Every time I reply to you, my comment just disappears. I'm so confused! 😭💔
@@LDiamondz Hey why not create an alt account and see if that works?
Not being able to have contact with your family should be a big red flag.
Have you heard of the Dan Markel murder trial going on now? I would love to see your analogy of Wendi Adelson. I swear she one of the creepiest humans I have ever seen on the stand.
Hopefully he covers this one.
such a sad case. Dan just wanted to be a part of his children's lives.
Wait, that happened years ago but the Adelson family came out smelling like a rose. I’m glad to hear that there’s work being done to get Wendy, her mother, and brother convicted. What an evil family!
One of my best friends was born into this cult. He was later adopted by Jane Pearce and raised by her. He’s one of the most normal guys you’ll ever meet and has a wife and son.
Very fascinating case!
Had to laugh when you said "Members of the cult were not allowed to have contact with their family members, although they were allowed to ask family members for money."
Also had a good laugh when you said "So I guess Mother's Day was like his Mental Awareness Day." 😅
I love this one already. I’ve never heard of it. Thanks, Grande.
Drive yes but not a Ford!
I’ve seen MANY videos on cults but never of this one. Most cults I can see how it might appeal but I couldn’t see one redeeming belief. It sought to destroy human relationships but isn’t that one of our most basic needs? That this was a cult of more than one person boggles my mind 😳
the New York comparisons to WeWork come to mind. A lot of "start ups" are basically "cults" of one/two people who push the narrative, and if they're in NEW YORK they're at ground central for the money and power.
If we want to be free of cults, we need to build community ties, stop engaging in tribalism and understand that every community member, every human being has value. Accept and validate people.
This society enables these things by ostracizing individuals.
People who find themselves in a cult aren’t “stupid.” They may be emotionally damaged, but They are, at core, looking for acceptance.
Thanks Dr. Grande. Plato also seemed to think the nuclear family was a problem and suggested communism as a remedy. Obviously Plato lived long before the right/left split, which comes from the French Revolution. So the title could equally be: Dangers of Taking Plato's Republic Too Seriously!
This makes me think you should do a Scientology case.
My mom is a prosecutor and every year she brings up the fact that Mother's Day is the day with the lowest crime. think that says a lot about how many moms commit crimes throughout the year, but can't today because they're too busy being celebrated.
This statistic, if true, has more to do with people who tend to commit crimes would be too busy celebrating their mothers so they are less likely to commit crimes that day.
@@PaganGrace no shit, Sherlock
Wow… 🤦♀️
Your on to us
🤣🤣 Stop giving away our secrets!
When I was in college in NYC in the early 1970s, I dated a handsome and brilliant young man who later joined the Sullivanians and stayed for over a decade. During the past couple of years, I've read everything I could lay my hands on about the Sullivanians, but I'll never understand why Steve allowed himself to be captured by this harmful and deranged cult.
In the end, these flimflam operations always seem to be about power, sex & money.
A cult led by a Mother's Day Grinch, now that is bad. Thanks Dr, Grande, I think you analyzed this case great!
I see a very common point in your videos.
Most seem lonely, cults and sex.
Do or can any of the followers of these cults think for themselves.
Again, I'm glad I like my own company.
He was correct about mothers day.
Thank you.
Peace 💕🇺🇲
🪁Good afternoon Dr. Grande.
Reviewed your description..
my first thought was the characters in The Big Lebowski…
the “nihilists” 😑.
5:20 PM Sunday, left coast,
sitting up on the roof…
big glass of camomile iced tea listening you😎.
Just lovely.
"Uli doesn't care about anything.
He's a nihilist."
"Oh. That must be exhausting."
@@JCPJCPJCP 😎
@@JCPJCPJCP ⚡️nice⚡️
@@ZYX84
Very funny movie.
Has everyone seen it yet?
Hey, maybe Todd will analyze it;
take up film criticism, add another arrow to his quiver.
@@JCPJCPJCP 🏹
First I've heard of this cult Dr. G. Very sad situation. Thx for the excellent info and summary. 💯
A leader against the traditional family, bonding with your own children, and monogamy....
Removing those values would take away a lot of stability for the members.
I sometimes wonder how much of a factor boredom is in the joining of a cult.
Very interesting case and very helpful explanation and analysis, thank you.
I never heard of this cult. What a fascinating story. I think it is also very revealing. We should always question people in influential positions. I can imagine what sort of articles the cult member working at the NY Times wrote.
As you pointed out this was not really about left wing ideals. There is no Marxist analysis that could be applied to this set up. The heading could perhaps be labelled as 'The danger of extreme Psychotherapists'.
Why "marxist analysis"?
@@eadweard. due to the reference about him being a Communist.
Yeah, that's what I just pointed out too. I anticipated a lot of references to the "Democrat Party" in the comments. I have yet to see any, TG!
@@scobes07 Yes I see. But does failing to meet with a Marxist analysis mean something cannot be left wing in nature?
@@eadweard. I think the point is thay if it doesn't fit with the ideology, does it matter what he calls himself?
Like if I identified as a Christian, but then performed pagan rights to a nature deity as my main form of religious practice. Would it be fair to say "Christian extremist sacrifices goats in their mother's milk for a better harvest" if I had committed those acts?
Members weren't allowed to have contact with their family, but were allowed to ask their family for money. Kind of undermines the "worker" part of the Workers' Party, unless by "workers" they mean other people, not themselves.
Right.............what in deep fried cheese coated hell was that? Just, What? Whole thing sounds like something you could come up with only after a drinking binge combined with a traumatic brain injury.
Initially left wing. Apparently never liberal. Authoritarian basically.
Better NOT call Saul!
Well, he was from New Brunswick... No hope for him from the beginning lol
" Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." ~ Voltaire (1694-1778)
I would love to hear you unpack sometime what it means to 'informally study psychotherapy'. I feel like there's a story in there
It’s like he was trying to break all attachments because he thought they caused suffering or pain. He had a problem with his family of origin, I guess.
Really enjoyed the video as per usual Dr. Grande. I would like to put in a request for you to make a video analysis of the life and mental health factors surrounding musical artist Elliott Smith. He seemed to be a voice for misfits with art largely focused on topics like depression and anxiety. He’s particularly remembered for carrying out one of the more wild/bizarre celebrity suicides to date. I think it’d be fascinating to hear your take on Smith’s story. Thanks as always for the great content Doc!
So what was Sol's problem with his mother?
Hi dr. Grande! I love your videos. I have a few ideas for you to cover:
-Agatha Christie’s random disappearance in 1926. Did she have a nervous breakdown? Was it a fugue state? Did she just want to start a new life?
-Larry Nassar- what could have been happening here? Antisocial Personality Disorder? NPD? How did he get away with it for so long? What did you make of his letter to the judge?
What are traditional family values? It's such a vague term that it borders on meaningless. Are my families traditions the same as yours? if not which is not a traditional family, yours or mine?
In the context of this cult, looks like they defined it as the nuclear family.
People tend to be fine with abstract concepts when they like them, but think they're meaningless when they don't.
I think it means a family that believes in having some sort of close relationship and where the parents actually have a say in how their children are raised.
Traditional family values doesn't necessarily mean a traditional family structure...
Sounds like religions except, religions were successful in maintaining their presence even after the leader died.
Great one. Wow. I guess we’ve never really heard of this bc there were no murders associated w it.
12:57 "I think that all of Saul's political discussions were really just a way to make his strategy seem like they were based on something more than just his own desires."
This was bonkers! Never heard of this case! Glad that Dr. Grande seemed to listen to the constructive criticism some of his viewers (Ana Psychology has a video explaining this- although I didn’t agree with all of her issue, and she is guilty of some of the same things!) In recent videos Dr. Grande only punches up with his sarcasm and humor, and seems to be taking more care with his opinions on women.
Taking care to say the sorts of things of which you'll approve?
it's ALWAYS about sex. ALWAYS. and money.
Have you ever covered Rev. Moon who started the huge cult Moonies.
Excellent summary. Thank you. My sister lived on the south shore of Nassau/Long Island in the 1980s was said to be “treated “ by a Sullivanian institute trained therapist. She divorced herself from our family, especially our late mother, for no apparent reason in the 1980s and is still estranged these 40 years later. Do you happen to know if there is a group or website where the names of therapists trained in this manner might still exist? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
The 'nuclear family' is not actually a traditional, family value. It was an image spread through TV in the 40s and 50s.
You cover your topics in great depth. Thanks for another great case. You are a super teacher. Could you do one on how the children raised in cults turn out?
Look at us, analyzing Dr. Grande's every word, anxious lest he be siding with our political opponents.
I get the feeling he's enjoying this.
I actively hope he is :)
@@eadweard. me too, but only because I suspect he's leaning to my side lol.
Vídeo could also be titled “Dangers of Psychotherapy Extremism”
Nonsense. And plagiarized nonsense at that.
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Never heard of this. Thank you Dr. Grande for always shedding light & insight on often overlooked topics.
Very interested to hear your take on Bob Berdella serial killer
I've never heard of these people. I guess if one goes far enough left or far enough right, one ends up in the same. place... crazy.
No Extremism is good, there were a lot of them in the 1600s in New England.
Sounds exactly like the insane world today!!!
Of course they went to Florida.
Dr Grande, a video outlining your thoughts on Henry Steiger would be fascinating.
Surprised to see this video from you but much appreciated. Very curious about what this video will be about! Excited to watch
He has a lot of weird videos. I’m Surprised you’re surprised.
Please cover the Lacey Fletcher case.
Is a psychotic therapist still a psychotherapist?
This cult appears to be alive and well in modern academia.
Fun fact his original family name was Cohen which is a curiously recurring name
There was a university study over several years done on "It takes a village to raise a child". The results of that study was spectacular failure for that often quoted idiom. I wish Dr. Grande could analyze that study and how it fails children to allow "the village" to raise them.
Yeah, it doesn’t take a village. It takes a family and that includes extended family but strangers or random community members should be left out of it, even teachers shouldn’t be “raising” children.
But having grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins and siblings around to help is a gigantic benefit for a child. Parents have moments of weakness or go through periods of difficulty and being able to have other family members around to offers support for the child can really make or break things during those hard times. Stability is key to raising well adjusted kids, and a large family provides that.
But a village? You’re just asking for your kid to feel confused, unstable and unsafe. They need familiarity (notice the root of that word)….
“It takes a village” is a totally misguided phrase.
@@persephonel2117 Exactly. "Confusion" that is exactly what happened in the experiment/study. Nobody cares for family like good family. Something innate, something in our genetic code for propagation of our species is less competitive when it comes to family. Family is only sometimes stricken as hard with competition. Competition for food, emotional intelligence and nurturing should not be happening at a young age.
Interesting!
🍿🍿Just waiting for the comments to come in.
7.5 billion people on Earth and somehow I'm the best driver..
@@orangemangas2465 Hey me two. What are the odds.
The emotional/mental damage that people suffer while in cults can be horrible to witness, let alone live through. The worst part is that there doesn't seem to be any real defense for keeping loved ones from being seduced by cult ideologies.
it would be interesting to hear the Doctor's views on "Nubian Islamic Hebrews" cult formerly led by "Doctor" Michael York. I knew people that had joined that one, & it left some of them very emotionally damaged.
I never knew of such case. It was always a curiosity I had. It's so weird, it's almost as if they intentionally sought to make of themselves a living right-wing straw-man of left-wing principles. Left-wing stuff is generally associated with much larger cults of personality, which also seem to have depend significantly on first taking the power of the state itself. To a point it's even kind of blurry to which degree the thing is really a cult of personality or a façade people have to put up in order to not get themselves in serious trouble. But I've always imagined there was the risk of some voluntary/intentional communes having cult elements, being somewhat analog to religious and/or RW groups, which for some reason are either more numerous or more noteworthy.
Although the cultist or cult-prone behavior among the extreme LW isn't that uncommon to observe. If anything, it seems to have gradually become more widespread over the past 10-20 years, actually sort of a general approximation of many more characteristic RW propensities, along the lines of Haidt's "moral pillars" divisions, just with a different narrative. Although maybe the main thing, or the most concrete thing, perhaps is just the gradual decline of giving people the benefit of the doubt (from both sides). Everything has to be interpreted/inferred in the worst way possible.
A very astute analysis... I had never heard of them before and I have studied a lot of cults! Interesting echoes of the People's Temple, Unification Church and $cientology
Sounds like Scientology to me (except WITH psychotherapy - which LRH hated). Do you use LIfton's model or Hassan's BITE model to assess cults? And - my opinion, not diagnosing anyone here - people join cults when they're in vulnerable situations or they might be born in (2nd Gen). I was briefly involved in a cult when I was at a low point and seeking to improve my life. It's complicated.
Hey Dr.Grande , thanks for all you do, love your take on these stories ! I was thinking how sad for the children , you hear of the children being abused in cults and this one doesn't allow the children to stay , but children are vulnerable when sent away too.. .....very scary and sad
I never heard of the Sullivans. What an interesting story! Thanks for explaining how intelligent/educated people can become attracted to and drawn into these sinister groups. Let's hope more will begin to hone their critical thinking skills to recognize the horse manure that their nose is failing to detect.
I’m listening to Grande describe all the controlling and rude behavior of the lead psychologists and the Mother’s Day mentality and laughing the whole time.
Dr Grande, I really hope to hear from you about this doctor of psychology on the stand as an expert witness for AH Monday morning. It’s so unprofessional!!!
Great content Dr. I always enjoy your videos
Great video. Great perspective. Thanks again for this content! We appreciate it greatly!
Hi, Dr. Grande. Big fan. Can you please do a video about singer-songwriter Elliott Smith and answer the question about his manner of death?
Agreed
Hello Dr. Grande, how are you? Hope you are well. Something not pertaining to your content. I am a huge fan of decor. And like to look at other's choices as well. I watched you move around your little Pink Pot with the cactus in it. It got to the point where I was wondering if it would be moved upon watching your videos. Lol. I always wondered why you didn't like it's location as it was moved around quite frequently. But today it's changed to an Orange pot. I have to agree that it wasn't the location of the pot... but rather it's color. I like the new color very much. Thanks for your great content. :)
Sounds like Saul had mommy and/or daddy issues.
Lived in NYC my entire life , never heard of this.Very unsettling
Can you analyze the TM movement and the leader Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? This was a man who got into an altercation with the Beatles that led them to write some songs about him and the movement.
Never heard of the Sullivans, but you got to hand it to Saul......he found a way too score and boost his ego.
Kinda like Manson, with more money and better organizational skills.
@@maxshea1829 I wouldn't go that far. Saul was a manipulator, conniver and a cad twisted up in some psychobabble salesmanship, but.....he was not cool with the devil.
Okay, I swear I had almost nothing to do with this.
That's my claim. Always. "It mostly wasn't me" lol
Deflect that