There's something about how formal Haskill is that really helps with the theme of maddness; I don't know what it is, but it almost magnifies the crazy of everything else
It's like contrast, having one (seemingly perhaps) sane person and putting them next to an insane one feels like it magnifies the differences of each... I love it though personally, and the design for the area (forgot the name) with two completely different halves.
Amusingly, the shrine's dialogue also changes depending on what other stages of the Shivering Isles questline you are currently ignoring. IIRC if you activate the shrine right around when or after the Greymarch has begun and you just leave before stopping Jyggalag, Haskill mentions that time does work different in Oblivion and you spreading some chaos actually helps delay the march's progress
Haskill speaking for Sheogorath in his shrine makes me believe that he had done this in Morrowind when speaking to the Nerevarine in TES III, because the voice actor of Sheogorath in his shrine in morrowind and Haskill in oblivion is the same.
while this is a fair take i never truly liked the change in eccentricity from shegorath. alot of the kick in morrowind was, when he would ask you to do something ridiculous in such a sincere and formal way.
@@timewellspent8137 they still do things like this. Tsun is a prime example. As is Deacon in Fallout 4. In Skyrim, the Civil War characters will change their statements towards you depending on how far you are in the main quest. Also, if you speak with the undead dragon in the soul cairn, he will have different dialog based on whether or not you know you are dragonborn or not, and whether you've defeated alduin. Same with Mirakk. In Fallout 4, one prime example is when you meet Deacon. He will recount your exploits based on quests you've completed. Honestly Bethesda does MORE things like this than they ever did before. And what's more, yall haters are fucking annoying. Bethesda has one objectively bad game... Fallout 76. That game has since been patched and fixed. You ignore decades of excellence in game design and world building and totally turn on them when a single fucking game didn't meet your expectations? Damn gamers are fucking whiners these days.
Butterflies are a sign of Sheogorath. There was a lot of blood. Several kinds. Including the blood of a divine. The Grey Fox. Jiub's severed head. And cheese. Because why not.
It would be kind of funny if you could use your own blood for Martin's ritual if you completed the Shivering Isles quest before getting to that stage in the MQ. You need the blood of a Daedric Prince, after all.
Also when you are doing the main quest of the shivering isles and take a detour back to cyrodiil to go do this quest sheogorath says something along the lines of "Mortal? MY MORTAL?!" It was really funny
@@MaybeRyce Ahh my excuses on that one then! This vid was recommended to me via the algorithm and I enjoyed it so I made a comment of my own memories of playing this game :)
That being said, last time I checked when you are doing the staff of goblins side quest that is also linked to sheogorath, it still sounds like sheogorath is speaking to you. Which made sense to me as you ARE the god of madness which I was in the play-thru I was in the time. Granted that was years ago and I only started playing oblivion again recently
This really makes one consider how terrifying it is that for even for the relatively brief period of time that encompasses the events of post-Shivering Isles, that there is an honest to Oblivion DAEDRIC PRINCE just left to his own devices wandering the mortal plane. It took the entire plot of the main story to bring forth Mehrunes Dagon for all of 10 minutes, and here we have SHEOGORATH of all deities, moderately inhibited, being arguably more of a menace to Cyrodil than the Oblivion Crisis itself. We are fortunate he was shoved back in his realm once he fully mantled, or Tamriel would be a much different place during the events of Skyrim
I believe sheogorath is probably one of the few daedric princes that tend to visit nirn just to cause chaos, considering all the stories about him being around and fucking with everyone, so him being around could just be another tuesday
You forgetting sanguine? He got through no problem to nirn to go have a boys night out with the dragonborn, think it's more they can't bring all their power with them which is what dagon wanted
I love this little Easter egg. Also if you are in the middle of the Shivering Isles quests, going the the shrine will have Sheogroath recognize you while also being mad that you aren't doing his quests!
I never did the Sheogorath quest on my oblivion playthrough cuz I thought it would be awkward being Sheogorath and Sheogorath treating me like nothing, but this is incredibly unexpected!
I think going through a monotonous questline that greatly inconveniences everyone involved in order to receive a staff that he could conjure at any time is exactly something the prince of madness would do.
Wow, having Haskill give you the quest instead, really brings in the whole "we, the developers, actually know what we were doing when we made the Shivering Isles DLC, that we went back and reworked the Sheogorath quest entirely with another voice actor instead." That's genius.
Kind of makes sense they'd record lines for Haskill seeing as they already had to rerecord the lines (Sheogorath's voice is the same as Clavicus Vile's I believe without the DLC installed)
If you visit Sheogorath’s shrine as Sheogorath then Sheogorath gets mad at you and forces you to be Sheogorath for a day at which point you turn back into Sheogorath.
I'm ashamed to admit it took me over a second to realize this was Haskill and not just a weird bug causing the old voice actors lines. I'm as dull as Border Watch.
Also needs to make a side trip to Skyrim to have a tea party with the spirit of a mad king. Along with general trolling of mortals. Sometimes a Prince of madness just needs a vacation and Haskill will take care of things until he gets back. Dependable guy that Haskill.
I never thought to do this and I love that they actually thought about that before hand so many games leave out small details like this especially with content that comes out after the game.
This really goes to show how much time and attention to detail Bethesda put into TES IV. Maybe that's why oblivion is called a jewel made by Bethesda gaming studios. It's a shame that these things are underrated 😢😢
@@Tobbax every The Elder Scrolls game Combat System is strange. Morrowind for Example, you stand right in Front of your enemy, go for a heavy strike with your Huge Axe but instead of Hit, you missed the Hit, cause your Axe Level is to low.
The Shivering Isles are lovingly made. The rest is... questionably made. Which only serves to make the Shivering Isles better. That wonderful moment where you, the Archmage, steal your own staff and leave a note for yourself, to send a message to yourself but assure yourself you'll return the staff to yourself (you don't), but you should probably call the guards to be on watch for yourself.
No, this has nothing to do with your decisions mattering, it's just consistency in case you did the quests in a certain order. Both of these quests always end the same way.
Another reason I love Oblivion. It's not perfect but it is so very deep and fun to play around in. Sadly with Skyrim the trade off of prettier graphics while using the same engine made it so much smaller and not as deep. Still the Elder Scrolls are leagues better than most games coming out these days. It says something that a Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, or Daggerfall player can get more out of these games than what is put on the table by most other newer franchises. Did game dev's lose their ability to craft deep games near 10 years ago. They must have.
@@PhoenixAce I believe it too, just like the arts for the game, most likely a imperial with blue eyes. That reminds me of Neloth mentioning the Nerevarine as he to the Dragonborn.
@@du2981 I think it's likely that every default race and gender is the canon protagonist in each game. Morrowind: Dunmer male Oblivion: Imperial male Skyrim: Nord male Not sure about Arena and Daggerfall, though.
Uh... are you sure this is from Oblivion? Because that was some of the best voice acting I've ever heard from a Bethesda game, let alone THIS monstrosity.
I've been going through a lot of older games lately because of the Steam Deck. First game was Oblivion and I ended up 100% it and moving on to Skyrim and next will be the Fallout series. Older games run great on it and don't drain the battery as much with Oblivion on Ultra settings giving me about 4-5 hours of gameplay
Alright, my lazy ass finally recorded the end of the quest since a lot of people were asking for it.
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There's something about how formal Haskill is that really helps with the theme of maddness; I don't know what it is, but it almost magnifies the crazy of everything else
he's the straight man
he reminds me a lot of the caretaker ghost from the shining
It's like contrast, having one (seemingly perhaps) sane person and putting them next to an insane one feels like it magnifies the differences of each... I love it though personally, and the design for the area (forgot the name) with two completely different halves.
Chaos would imply the highest form of order, because it is beyond our own order of understanding
@@itzaleaf405 mania and dementia
Amusingly, the shrine's dialogue also changes depending on what other stages of the Shivering Isles questline you are currently ignoring. IIRC if you activate the shrine right around when or after the Greymarch has begun and you just leave before stopping Jyggalag, Haskill mentions that time does work different in Oblivion and you spreading some chaos actually helps delay the march's progress
Makes sense since madness is Sheogorath plane's normal laws of physics so creating an enclave of madness on Nirn does delay the march
I Hate Jyggalag
@@steventalvinzvestal420 so do I my boy, almost as much as I love 🧀...or do I love cheese?
@@steventalvinzvestal420 use Mehrunes Razor against him; that's what helped *me* defeat him.
@@steventalvinzvestal420 Too bad he survives and propably cu ks all the daedric gods in the end
Haskill speaking for Sheogorath in his shrine makes me believe that he had done this in Morrowind when speaking to the Nerevarine in TES III, because the voice actor of Sheogorath in his shrine in morrowind and Haskill in oblivion is the same.
If Haskill pronounced it "Shi-gor-ath" like how it's said in Morrowind, then I would say that this would be cannon.
Edit: Spelling
He did say one of his job is "picking up the phone call"
while this is a fair take i never truly liked the change in eccentricity from shegorath. alot of the kick in morrowind was, when he would ask you to do something ridiculous in such a sincere and formal way.
Sheogorath deciding to use his butler's voice for several centuries is entirely in character with him.
@@troutmd5382 that sounds cool.
Honesrly shocked that Bethesda even thought that far ahead/planned for the possibilitiy...
They ised to do that a lot in their older games, a shame they don’t do that anymore
Hur dur Bethesda bad.
@@Riley_Mundt Yes, Bethesda is bad.
@@Riley_Mundt When you have no counterargument:
@@timewellspent8137 they still do things like this. Tsun is a prime example. As is Deacon in Fallout 4. In Skyrim, the Civil War characters will change their statements towards you depending on how far you are in the main quest. Also, if you speak with the undead dragon in the soul cairn, he will have different dialog based on whether or not you know you are dragonborn or not, and whether you've defeated alduin. Same with Mirakk. In Fallout 4, one prime example is when you meet Deacon. He will recount your exploits based on quests you've completed.
Honestly Bethesda does MORE things like this than they ever did before. And what's more, yall haters are fucking annoying. Bethesda has one objectively bad game... Fallout 76. That game has since been patched and fixed. You ignore decades of excellence in game design and world building and totally turn on them when a single fucking game didn't meet your expectations? Damn gamers are fucking whiners these days.
You know, I was there for that whole sordid affair. Marvelous times! Butterflies, blood, a Fox, a severed head... and the cheese! To die for...
I hear his voice in my head..
@@silvercandra4275that’s the first step, you’ll be doing the fish stick in no time
@@myrin265 I've heard it's a very delicate state of mind
Cheese is always worth dying for
Butterflies are a sign of Sheogorath.
There was a lot of blood. Several kinds. Including the blood of a divine.
The Grey Fox.
Jiub's severed head.
And cheese. Because why not.
It would be kind of funny if you could use your own blood for Martin's ritual if you completed the Shivering Isles quest before getting to that stage in the MQ. You need the blood of a Daedric Prince, after all.
Wouldnt be surprised if it was in the game lol
@@SelevanRsC its not.
@@HansWurst1569 That’s unfortunate.
It wouldn’t work anyway. The quest is misnamed, he specifically needed a Daedric artifact: the required blood was of a Divine.
"Hold my beer Martin, we don't need all this, I'll go have a talk with my cousin Dagon"
Also when you are doing the main quest of the shivering isles and take a detour back to cyrodiil to go do this quest sheogorath says something along the lines of "Mortal? MY MORTAL?!"
It was really funny
Yeah I posted a video of that earlier. It was funny and I was not expecting it
@@MaybeRyce Ahh my excuses on that one then! This vid was recommended to me via the algorithm and I enjoyed it so I made a comment of my own memories of playing this game :)
That being said, last time I checked when you are doing the staff of goblins side quest that is also linked to sheogorath, it still sounds like sheogorath is speaking to you. Which made sense to me as you ARE the god of madness which I was in the play-thru I was in the time.
Granted that was years ago and I only started playing oblivion again recently
This really makes one consider how terrifying it is that for even for the relatively brief period of time that encompasses the events of post-Shivering Isles, that there is an honest to Oblivion DAEDRIC PRINCE just left to his own devices wandering the mortal plane. It took the entire plot of the main story to bring forth Mehrunes Dagon for all of 10 minutes, and here we have SHEOGORATH of all deities, moderately inhibited, being arguably more of a menace to Cyrodil than the Oblivion Crisis itself.
We are fortunate he was shoved back in his realm once he fully mantled, or Tamriel would be a much different place during the events of Skyrim
I believe sheogorath is probably one of the few daedric princes that tend to visit nirn just to cause chaos, considering all the stories about him being around and fucking with everyone, so him being around could just be another tuesday
You forgetting sanguine? He got through no problem to nirn to go have a boys night out with the dragonborn, think it's more they can't bring all their power with them which is what dagon wanted
I love this little Easter egg. Also if you are in the middle of the Shivering Isles quests, going the the shrine will have Sheogroath recognize you while also being mad that you aren't doing his quests!
Aren't you technically still doing his quest? Like, he gives an assignment from this.
I never did the Sheogorath quest on my oblivion playthrough cuz I thought it would be awkward being Sheogorath and Sheogorath treating me like nothing, but this is incredibly unexpected!
That's because oblivion is only lately getting the recognition it deserves for all the details
@@SelevanRsC well then Oblivion shouldn't have distracted us all with its fucking terrible character models and dogshite shaders
Tell me about it
@@TheRealMycanthrope
Yeah I don't think the demographic for Resistance, Ghost Recon and Call of Duty were even considered when creating Oblivion
I think going through a monotonous questline that greatly inconveniences everyone involved in order to receive a staff that he could conjure at any time is exactly something the prince of madness would do.
Curiosity has been satisfied, thanks a bunch
Shivering Isles is easily the best DLC Bethesda has ever put out and I will die on that hill.
Nooooo don't die
Today is your lucky day!
ah Haskill such a good lad
Sheogorath praying to himself is entirely within character.
Wow, having Haskill give you the quest instead, really brings in the whole "we, the developers, actually know what we were doing when we made the Shivering Isles DLC, that we went back and reworked the Sheogorath quest entirely with another voice actor instead." That's genius.
Haskill is worth praying to
Kind of makes sense they'd record lines for Haskill seeing as they already had to rerecord the lines (Sheogorath's voice is the same as Clavicus Vile's I believe without the DLC installed)
If you visit Sheogorath’s shrine as Sheogorath then Sheogorath gets mad at you and forces you to be Sheogorath for a day at which point you turn back into Sheogorath.
Haskill is the best straight man sheogorath could have wished for
i like how the npcs don't give a fuck about sheogorath coming to a sheogorath shrine
very sheogorath of them
There was a dumbass who argued that you didn’t become Sheogorath in Oblivion. Thanks for the proof, I’ve forgotten about this.
Wow I was expecting this video to get like 9 views not fucking 1000. Thanks guys.
Yo we at 10k now. That's cool
You have been blessed by the algorithm
a reply for the algorithm
You can't just upload Oblivion easter eggs and not expect views.
I'll comment to add to the algorithm
Algorithm Algorithm Algorithm
I'm ashamed to admit it took me over a second to realize this was Haskill and not just a weird bug causing the old voice actors lines. I'm as dull as Border Watch.
Change your profile picture.
this is the best evidence of CoC becoming Sheogorath
I knew this would happen after reading the unofficial Oblivion wiki but I've never seen it before. I'm looking forward to the day I get a PC again!
My friend.
3000 hours, and 12 years.
I did not know this.
Holy shit.
How did I never think of doing this!!!
doin madgods work man
Once I enter the Shivering Isles, I don’t leave. My character is the Prince of Madness, what could he possibly need in Cyrodiil?
To stop that fun-ruining Dagon from destroying your playground.
Also, causing shenanigans.
Also needs to make a side trip to Skyrim to have a tea party with the spirit of a mad king. Along with general trolling of mortals. Sometimes a Prince of madness just needs a vacation and Haskill will take care of things until he gets back. Dependable guy that Haskill.
An absurd amount of cheese
I never thought to do this and I love that they actually thought about that before hand so many games leave out small details like this especially with content that comes out after the game.
Never even thought about this, thanks for posting it. Here is a comment for the algorithm
Great vid.
Not labeling it as "SeCrEt DiAlOgUe wItH ShEoGorAtH"
VN. Through not one of my many playthroughs had I ever considered this madness.
I love how you gave him his default look lmao
These are the details I appreciate the most from Bethesda
It also has new dialogue for earlier stages of the shivering Isles too!
Neat how Bethesda *anticipated* players trying this and accounted for it; it's pretty cool when developers do that sort of thing.
Never played oblivion but man I wanna bei a daedric lord
well.... it's time to replay oblivion again...
Thanks Major Zero.
This really goes to show how much time and attention to detail Bethesda put into TES IV. Maybe that's why oblivion is called a jewel made by Bethesda gaming studios. It's a shame that these things are underrated 😢😢
oblivion combat kinda sucks though. tbf i guess skyrim does too
@@Tobbax every The Elder Scrolls game Combat System is strange. Morrowind for Example, you stand right in Front of your enemy, go for a heavy strike with your Huge Axe but instead of Hit, you missed the Hit, cause your Axe Level is to low.
@@PaPaScha D20 roll mechanics on Morrowind.
The Shivering Isles are lovingly made.
The rest is... questionably made.
Which only serves to make the Shivering Isles better.
That wonderful moment where you, the Archmage, steal your own staff and leave a note for yourself, to send a message to yourself but assure yourself you'll return the staff to yourself (you don't), but you should probably call the guards to be on watch for yourself.
@@Tobbax Its jank. But I have mastered the jank. So now its jank I love
Wow. Never knew they had a back-up plan for this. Most other devs would've ignored this, which probably includes modern Bethesda.
No, most devs would think of this.
This is food for the soul
I actually did the Shivering Isles DLC before I did anything else in Oblivion.
Thank a lot for posting this. I ALWAYS asked myself this but NEVER tested it out :D
This is like if Batman played one of those DC lego batman games and Alfred goes "Master Bruce, playing with yourself again?"
I hope skyblivion includes this although I’d get if they didn’t
Wow, this is really a thing? Hecking awesome!
Omg they thought of this bet if it was skyrim it wouldn't change anything that saddens me a lot
It's funny that the prince of madness doesn't have time to answer prayers like other daedric princes.
if it says oblivion, I click it, simple as
You’re telling me your decisions actually mattered in older Bethesda games
No, this has nothing to do with your decisions mattering, it's just consistency in case you did the quests in a certain order. Both of these quests always end the same way.
In morrowind matters
Oblivion is underrated for a game with such details
This is pretty interesting.
I can't believe I never tried this
and yet people on r/teslore still debate constantly over whether or not the Oblivion npc became Sheogorath.
You expect more from reddit users?
I mean, I do expect more from them than from TH-cam commenters...
Sheogorath is just like me
Fr
ong?
That’s Awesome!
Love Bethesda for this. So funny
this is why oblivion is the best game ever
So Sheogorath became Preston Garvey
Nu-bethesda would never have an attention to detail like this
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Haskil gang
Wonderful friend
Thank you
What madness is this!
Bro if i was sheograth i would go to the imperial city and talk to people
Please Bethesda, don't let anything happen to Dovahkiin whatever happens okay?!?
The thousand hours I spent in this game and this is a new one for me. Thanks 👍
this happened to me XD
Another reason I love Oblivion. It's not perfect but it is so very deep and fun to play around in. Sadly with Skyrim the trade off of prettier graphics while using the same engine made it so much smaller and not as deep.
Still the Elder Scrolls are leagues better than most games coming out these days. It says something that a Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, or Daggerfall player can get more out of these games than what is put on the table by most other newer franchises.
Did game dev's lose their ability to craft deep games near 10 years ago. They must have.
Ok, this is based.
Who gives you the wabbajack then? Is it haskill?
No idea. I didn't even finish the quest because I got distracted with Far Cry 6, but I can upload a video on this if you want
@@MaybeRyce that would be very cool! I believe it’s a fairly short quest
Everything your predicesor did in this quest is done instead by Haskill
Your lips to his ears
This is (in a funny way ofc) the most narcissist thing I've ever saw 🤣🤣🤣
Jusk think of when the fourth era ends and the Champion of Cyrodiil turns back to his/her mortal form, if that could even happen xD
Would he get old suddendly o will keep his original age?
@@francescotonini6268 I think he would turn to the age he was when he became Sheogorath
I believe it is canon that the champion is male
@@PhoenixAce I believe it too, just like the arts for the game, most likely a imperial with blue eyes. That reminds me of Neloth mentioning the Nerevarine as he to the Dragonborn.
@@du2981 I think it's likely that every default race and gender is the canon protagonist in each game.
Morrowind: Dunmer male
Oblivion: Imperial male
Skyrim: Nord male
Not sure about Arena and Daggerfall, though.
Uh... are you sure this is from Oblivion? Because that was some of the best voice acting I've ever heard from a Bethesda game, let alone THIS monstrosity.
i like cars they're cute
Never woulda thought to do this what was the quest reward?
Hm :[ i never knew that.
Is that a voice of Haskill ?
Is Sheogorath a Malkavian?
A what?
@@MaybeRyce A Fishmalk.
@adorbstotesadorbs.9371 are a follower of sheorgorath. You are definitely mad.
So how does the part with the “rain” that Sheogorath normally does play out? Do you actually get to call it down?
Haskill dose it
Gg
Nice spoiler
So you're saying you haven't played Oblivion?
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lol it looks like i am not the only one playing older games nowadays since gaming industry pretty much died out .
I've been going through a lot of older games lately because of the Steam Deck. First game was Oblivion and I ended up 100% it and moving on to Skyrim and next will be the Fallout series. Older games run great on it and don't drain the battery as much with Oblivion on Ultra settings giving me about 4-5 hours of gameplay