Is a RTX 4080 Worth the Upgrade for 4K-Ultra Gaming?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- A high fidelity PC gameplay comparison between Nvidia’s GeForce RTX 4080 graphics card, and the old RTX 3080. Explaining the importance of “gameplay feel”, frame rate, and the benefits of the ‘Frame Gen’ tech.
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NEW PC SETUP
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 (MSI 16GB GAMING X TRIO)
Display: Acer Predator 27” XB273K (at 3840x2160 120hz)
Processor: IntelCore i7-10700KF CPU (overclocked 30%)
Memory: 64 GB Corsair Vengeance PRo 3200MHz DDR4
Game Drive: 2 TB SanDisk 3D Solid State Drive
Power Supply: 1000w CORSAIR HX1000I
OS: Windows 11
OLD PC SETUP
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 (10GB Alienware Brand)
Display: Acer Predator 27” XB273K (at 3840x2160 120hz)
Processor: IntelCore i7-10700KF CPU (overclocked 30%)
Memory: 64 GB Corsair Vengeance PRO 3200MHz DDR4
Game Drive: 2 TB SanDisk 3D Solid State Drive
Power Supply: 1000w CORSAIR HX1000I
OS: Windows 11
Background music is from the Bright Memory Infinite soundtrack.
Some games featured in this were provided for free from the publisher.
Here are all the games featured in this, in the order they appear.
Cyberpunk 2077 - Red Dead Redemption 2 - Bright Memory Infinite - Marvel’s Spider Man
Warzone 2 - Forza Horizon 5 - Grounded - Chorus - Warhammer Darktide - Session Skate Sim
00:00 Intro
00:57 Cyberpunk 2077
02:42 Call of Duty Warzone 2
03:41 Red Dead Redemption 2
04:36 Bright Memory Infinite
05:54 Forza Horizon 5
06:51 Grounded
07:17 Conclusion
#Nvidia #RTX #4080 - เกม
*Here are all the games featured in this, in the order they appear.*
Cyberpunk 2077 - Red Dead Redemption 2 - Bright Memory Infinite - Marvel’s Spider Man
Warzone 2 - Forza Horizon 5 - Grounded - Chorus - Warhammer Darktide - Session Skate Sim
Did you use the same settings for the 3080 and the 4080 in rdr2 ? 4080 gets 60-80 fps at native 4k maxed settings with dips to the 60s near water due to max water physics from the benchmarks that I have seen.
What were the dlss settings? Quality, Performance…?
@@dhaumya23gango75 he doesn't have in count that the 4000 gpus have frame generation that almost adds 50% to your current FPS. So this comprassion is useless!!
@@eldiestro1990 Not true. Rdr2 lacks support for frame generation buddy even on rtx 4000 cards. Using an rtx 4000 automatically doesn't let you use frame generation lol, the game you are playing should support it as well. Also even with rtx 4000 , you can toggle frame generation on or off in games that support it right now like msfs 2020 and plague tale. His other benchmarks seem fine, the 4080 on average is 45-50 percent faster than the 3080 without upscaling from the reviews I have seen.
@@dhaumya23gango75 I'm not talking specifically of RDR 2 🤨. This new hardware was disigned with a technology with an specific use, for new games and most of them do have FG enable. This wasnt designed for games from 4, 5 years ago. Why not also compare it with the 2080 in games from 10 years ago??
Big props to Nvidia for solving the GPU availability problem by making the 4080 so overpriced its available everywhere!
Whine more please.
@@A-Mistake-21 imagine getting mad at someone poking fun at overpriced GPUs.
@@A-Mistake-21 he’s not whining, he is right. Why pay so much if you can get a 7900xtx which is better 🥹
to be fair, if that their intention it worked. if this was 800 dollars. nobody would be able to get their hand on it cause all the scalper will have it and jack it up to 1500 anyway.
@@hakanozcan6576 it’s not better?????
imagine if this was 800$ instead. This would be such a massive success... Great video!
4080 > 7900xtx
@@2buckgeo843 Not really
@@2buckgeo843 And why's that? I don't see any benefit from getting a 4080 at such a steep price compared to amd's competing gpu
Yep. 7900xtx >>> 4080
Big letdown from Nvidia this gen.
@@115zombies935 There's no real world tests to confirm what you're saying, so it's just pulling facts out of your ars.
The only thing that interests me about the 4000 series, isn't so much the fps gain, which, unless you're constantly playing MAX setting at 4K resolution, even the 3080 12GB can handle very well. What really caught my eye about the 4000 series, is how power efficient they are. They can spit out those high frames at less power draw than a 3080 can.
GPU heat output much smaller as well.
not sure I follow the 4070ti requires less power but if you go up to a 4090 it uses more. I could upgrade to a 4070ti without upgrading my psu but the others would require an upgrade of PSU
@@alexandermarksstein8611 Power efficiency is measured based on metrics such as fps per watts consumed. The 4000 series can generate more fps per watt consumed compared to the 3000 series. That's why you have cards like the 4070 ti (heck, even the 4080) beat the performance of a 3080 or 3090 variants while consuming less power.
It's also interesting to note that while cards like the 4080 have listed TGP of 300 to 320 watts, it rarely if ever actually consumes that much. Tests at 4K for most games (excluding perhaps some truly graphic intensive games on insane settings) have it max out at considerably less than 300 watts. Compare that to the 3000 series that will, on average always reach, or breach their _typical listed_ average power consumption.
Even the 4090 when limited to the kind of frames generated by the earlier flagships, will consume less power. Meaning, if previous gen flagships can generate 100 fps on a certain game, the 4090 will consume less power generating the same amount of frames.
And 40 series handle better vr games.
4000series + 1080p + 60fps lock + undervolting = 50-100 Watt 😲
"It's also interesting to note that while cards like the 4080 have listed TGP of 300 to 320 watts, it rarely if ever actually consumes that much."
TGP 300w doesnt mean that the device is drawing 300w. It means that the cooling system is designed for a device that cosumes 300w. So the TGP is always(in normal cases) 10-20% higher then the actual power draw.
I miss the good times when for 600$ GPU you could play all the newest titles for a couple of years with the highest settings available at that time. Now I would have to pay over 1400 $ ( in my country) and still would not be able to hit 4k/120 fps in some old title games. Not even mentioning the ray tracing options...
Yes, that's the end of Moore's law for you. They still get incremental upgrades but it's not double each two years and it's also more expensive. But don't forget that the price of dollar won't stay the same due to inflation either. 600$ 5 years ago are more than 600$ today.
4k/120?? Man, kids these days....
I used to play Half Life at 512x384 to get playable framerates :D
@@torbjrnvrebekk3178Dude, its allmost 2023... I assume that you do not use your Nokia 3310 i anymore ? Wondering why, it would probbably still work till today.
@@Leonhart_93 you need to look up what Moore’s law is. You seem to misunderstand it, as it has nothing to do with price or speed. It still very much applies and hasn’t come close to flattening out.
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad Huh? Why do I need to look it up when I stated exactly what it said: doubling of the number of transistors in the same space, every two years. Which absolutely doesn't apply anymore, they have immense troubles making them even smaller. Like for example it took Intel a LOT of time to get from 14 nm to 10 nm and AMD is stuck at 7 nm for the foreseeable future.
So yeah, it's the end of that "law".
Personally, I think its worth it. I absolutely love my 4080. I have my 4080 paired with a 7950x and 64gb DDR5 6000Mhz. I play at 3440x1440 and I can't tell you how much I truly love this GPU. I upgraded from a 3080 Ti, and typically I get anywhere from 20-60 fps more with my 4080 than I did with the 3080 Ti. The extra frames are nice, but it just feels so much smoother too. Frames are so much more stable, I consume a max of 340w with my Gigabyte Gaming OC 4080, but typically it sits around 300w, and my 3080 Ti consumed 350w easily. After I got it, I was scared I would end up wishing I got the 4090. I do not regret it. I know its expensive, but if you can afford it, I absolutely recommend it.
Unless you’re doing rendering or some kind of productivity tasks you went overkill on your CPU and RAM IMO. 7600 with 32 GB of fast DDR5 RAM will get you like 90 - 95% of the same way at 4K gaming for way less money and power consumption.
@@jebril now I have a 14900k and a 4090. Besides gaming at 4K, I also run Blender, and Premiere Pro
50 series is around the corner. and its going to uterely destroy 40 series like 30 did with 20.. unless your building a new pc right now or have a really really old card...total waste of money to upgrade
@djam7484 it is now, I posted this a couple months after the 4080 came out. At this point, I would also wait.
While it's an improvement the pricing for a 4080 in NZ is a bit weird. Some models are on par or even slightly more expensive than some 4090's so it's a hard pass. I will wait for the 7900xtx.
I just went cheapest inno3d in nz. 2500 for that card compared to the gigabyte models that are like 3300. 0 performance difference. I imagine down here bro the xtx and xt 7000 series are gonna be between 2200 and 3500 because of gst and the rest of it
@@DayneJ93 I was close to getting a Zotac 3090ti from computer lounge, 50% cheaper than a 4080 but I'll wait just a bit longer.
And now you know the 7900XTX IS TRASH AND NOT WORTH LOOOOOOL
@@derek4177 Yeah well didn't buy one anyway, all sold out. Hundreds of 4080's though that nobody is buying.
@@BoneBullet tbh, I would rather go for a 4080, even if it costs slightly more...........or why not a 4090, but depends on the country you live in and how much the additional price is.
If it is "just" about 30% more expensive, I would even go for the 4090.
But I will also wait a few more months.
As we are heading into a recession, people usually don't have so much money to spend and the prices will come down.
Beautiful vid. Thank you. Cant wait to install mine.
I did the same 3080 to 4080 and the difference is extremely noticeable. I use a 3440x1440p QD Oled monitor and its absolutely glorious.
Same here and I'm so happy and I loved my 3080 alot.
I was in witcher 3 in the towns getting 90fps and just laughing with joy. So happy. I'm also a guy who can play dlss performance and worst case go 1440p if it really requires so I should ok for a little bit. Great card I hope your still having a great experience with it
Yeah i upgraded to a 4080 today. Super happy with it. Most people complaining about how they’ll stick with their 3080 just doesn’t have a 4080 lol
@@BLANGBLANGable because it's a waste of money considering the price to performance is not worth it. exactly why i'm still rocking my 3080 and instead waiting for 50 series later this year. or at worst early next year. either way it's around the corner. and like all next gen cards.they blow previous gen out the water. blackwell is going to smash it.
Me: I can't wait to get a 4080, man It'll be awesome playing AAA Games
My bank account, my room heater and my electricity bill: *INTENSE SWEATING*
You enabled DLSS auto scaling for your 2077 portion that heavily effects the performance of both cards. As the 3080 could be running at balanced while the 4080 could be running at quality and both be displaying similar FPS
so my TUF 3080 now worth about $700, the local store TUF 4080 retails for $2200 after tax... ... that's $1500 for 20 frames... lmao ya I'll keep my 3080
Exactly! Not nearly worth the price increase. Ill stick with my 3080 as well and wait for the next generation
@@Bdot888 ye~can't agree more
@@chocolc9564 right? no use in upgrading gpus every generation. Its like upgrading an iphone every year, not worth it for the high price
@@Bdot888 these people upgarding from 3080s to 4080s are really stupid. if your going to upgrade to anything from a 3080 its a 4090. but im doing the clever thing and sticking it out with my 3080 till 50 series comes out, which is practicly around the corner. i did the same back when i had a 1080ti. and im gona do the same again with my 3080
Managed to pick up an open-box 3070ti for $550, pretty much in mint condition. Hoping I can use it for 1440p for the next 2-3 years.
3080 needs to come down to sub $600 but I dont know when that might happen - these new 4000 series cards are so expensive
I love my 3070 Ti. In 1440p with high-ultra graphics and RT ON I get average of 70 FPS in Cyberpunk 2077. Totally worth it. I can only imagine how many people out there ran out to grab these new cards but yet don't have a 4K gaming monitor. It seems like people are often willing to pay a lot for the best GPUs but in the end bottleneck themselves with lower tier CPUs and other hardware.
@@TheSlickmicks Also running on a 1440p monitor over here. I had to upgrade from a GTX 980 to a RTX 2070 back in jan 2019 in order to get some acceptable framerates on 1440p. Since the improvement of the RTX 30 series compared to the RTX 20 series is not enough to justify buying another card within 3 years, i decided to skip the 30 series and wait for the 40 series.
Now I simply don't know what I should do. The 4080 costs more than 3 times as much as my 2070 used to cost back in 2019 when it was just released, and still the performance of the 4080 is not more than 3 times as much as the 2070.
In other words; the price/performance ratio of a 4080 is worse than that of the 2070, even 4 years later...
@@joostinatortje 7900xtx my friend. If you buy at elevated prices that nvidia is asking, you’re basically telling them price gouging works and they will continue to do it.
@@IzaguirreC I wouldn't mind going back to AMD, but I am slightly worried about missing out on all the specialities such as DLSS and the most modern implementation of RT cores.
AMD is clearly still a significantly behind in ray tracing performance and DLSS seems to be much more widely implemented than FSR.
These are the only things that would make me hesitate at this moment.
Right now I will definitely wait to see what team red will do in the coming 1,5 to 2 months before I make any decision.
What do you mean the 3080 "needs to come down"? Because it's outside of your budget? I hate to break it to you, but high GPU prices are here to stay.
Yes. DLSS 3.0 makes 4k 120 a reality. I'm with you on the "magic free frames". Games that were CPU bound, no longer are. Minimal artifacts, what your DO notice is the super smooth looking motion! Awesome tech .
dlss 3 its just a new teck , dev won't spend time to optimize their game ..don't forget the cost timeframe on 4K mostly all game above 80/100MS , but indeed dlss its a great teck. but hope game dev looking at other possibility , its not like atm pc config spec on market 're garbage .
@@zzzdartfrogzzz Unless AMD consoles will support this as well, tha games won't be optimized to use it anytime soon. As a single player gamer I love this new tech. The RTX 4080 was my first Nvidia card after 5 AMD cards prior, and I'm in love with it lol. Better VR performance, Frame Generation and no coil whine at last.
More input lage defeats the whole point of high fps so dlss 3.0 is pretty much useless
@@dwaynethemineraljohnson412 You mean for multiplayer games? For single player titles it's great!
Exactly the tech is amazing. If you don't play competitive games it feels really good
I think we should still demand raw power but honestly we shouldn't be shunning tech like this because native is way to demanding and rt is so demanding we need things like this. Glad you pointed this out, cause dlss3 is a game changer.
I'm definitely waiting for the AMD Cards to come out so I can see some actual Comparisons before making the Decision to spend around a thousand or more Bucks. A lot of Games I play do not lean heavily into Raytracing, so at this point I'm not sure if I really want to spend more money on a 4080 then a 7900XTX when the latter card might actually be faster in rasterization and could also be more efficient. It's a hard choice this Year. Hope the Competition stays strong and we can profit from it.
At least in Australia, even if I was interested in the 4080(RRP $2600-2800) I would just look at the 4090 (RRP $2800-3000) becuase the rpricing is really weird over here. Though I will probably go with the 7900XTX as synthetics show it out performing the 4080 for cheaper which is more than enough performance for me.
@@2buckgeo843 4080's are in stock at all my local and online retailers so...... i could have even bought a Founders Edition yesterday but i wont at the price
@@2buckgeo843 RT I can understand but why would I want to use dlss3? I either get enough fps for it not too matter, or the initial fps is so low it makes the game feel bad. Not sure I want to use any frame gen tech
@@2buckgeo843 Hell i even have a Zotac 4090 in my cart on Newegg but it comes with a super crappy semi modular bronze rated PS combo deal. i need a new PS to go with it but i dont want to get that POS one lol
@@2buckgeo843 I'm not the person you replied to but PLE ,MWAVE, PCCASEGEAR etc all have them in stock (Australia).
Exactly what I needed to see. Thank you!
Whats the difference between rendering videos? How long did it take for you to render this vid?
Man, I don’t even have a Gaming PC but still enjoyed this video 😂
DLSS3 is not magical free frames. There is definitely a latency increase, but not so huge to be greater than what it has been before when no one was paying attention. For single player action, probably fine, for multiplayer, likely unacceptable for those who are competitive.
I think DLSS3 is pretty solid tech and would rather have it over RTX any day (I say this as a hobby game dev, serious study for real time rendering, professional software eng). But I also am 99% sure DLSS3 is possible with prior generation RTX graphics cards but nVidia is holding out on offering it for 30 series cards -- maybe 20 series RTX cards are lacking hardware, but I doubt 30 series is missing anything.
The new cores they added in the 40 series. I forget what it is, but the 30 series does not have the,.
2 things... one, those who play competitive dont turn on dlss, period nor even play at max settings rt ultra, they prefer to play on medium to low to squeeze as much frames as they can... cause in competitive every frame counts.
second: dlss3 is on its infant stages... remember dlss1? was garbage... still is, we had to wait for dlss2 to truly enjoy the tech. dlss3 is wonky af rn, thats true. but has the potential to improve with driver updates
@@ravell2854 I play competetively and I do use DLSS2 (2080TI) because it puts out even more frames without adding any noticable lag, all settings low... 300fps in some games at "4k"
Great video bro. I just upgraded to this card from a GTX 1080.
Partly thanks to your video I finally pulled the trigger on a 4080. Upgraded from a 3080. Wow what a difference it made. It's expensive but what a beast.
⚡⚡⚡🔥🔥🔥🔥
If you have a HMD like the Reverb G2, and you want to take advantage of native resolution in sims like ACC and MSFS, then yes, it's worth the upgrade. I'm running a 3090 and I can't wait until I have the funds for a 40 series card.
For VR is 4090 best card, finally i can push max settings for sims even with a lot of supersampling on my Quest 2. I think is better skip 4080 as is wont be that much upgrade from 3090. Now i am looking for some better headset, Crystal looks good, but it will take time to be shipped and price is quite high.
Real quick, I just want to mention how great your video quality is, I think it's due to you recording in 4k with the bit-rate maxed, your videos just look perfectly clean even just watching 1440p on my 4k monitor. This was a great video in general though.
As for the cards, the performance jump is biggish, but it's nowhere near as big as it should be for that price jump, it should have been the same price. Here in Australia it went from $1200 to $2200 for the cheapest models of both at normal price. Realistically nobody should be saying anything good about these GPUs, it's beyond what even some enthusiasts want to pay. DLSS and the DLSS Swapper tool have saved a few games from running badly on my 3080, it's only issue with Vram.
Very helpful video, thank you!
I just got the MSI Gaming X Trio 4080, and will pair it with my i5 - 13600k, can't wait to try out Cyberpunk at 4k with max out settings and with the HUB (Hardware Unboxed) optimized settings. I'm still heavily playing Red Dead Redemption 2 though. Can't wait to try it out on that game as well.
If CP keeps crashing, knocking down the power target to 90 makes it stable.
We built the same exact pc lol!
What is your conclusion? Almost about to pull the trigger on the same exact setup so im very curious. Funny enough, will be playing alot of Red Dead as well. In 4k
Currently rocking a 970, but have a 3060 on the way, since the 3070 is 300-500 more expensive & the 40 series is an extra grand or 2, European pricing is a joke right now
Exactly what I wanted. A random video I wasn't even looking for at the time, but I've been weighing upgrading from my 6900XT to a 4000 or 7000 series.
You’re better off getting the 7900XTX, it’s $900 and outperforms the 4080 in a mass amount of games, and extra vram.
2021 built: 12700k on MSI edge MB and since there was no GPU available at that point, my Asus ROG strix 2080ti OC found a new home in a new case but it needs to move back to its old home and be replaced by 4080 or 4090 when they surface online here to cope with alienware 34 21:9 (3440x1440 @120hz)
Good comparison video 👌🏼
My current gaming setup is a rtx 980 haha. looking to buy a new gaming pc in the next few months, figured it is time for a massive upgrade either a 4080 or 4090!
Dude, I just upgraded after 4 years on a 1060! Haha.
Honestly, I'd look at a 3090/ti if you're going with a 4080. They're just way too overpriced and don't justify their ridiculous price, IMO.
Just got a rig with a 3050 and it's damn solid. No point in getting a 4090 especially for that insane price.
Make sure you have a gigantic case available then. Measure it for sure. The size difference is incredible and also the power consumption.
You mean an GTX not RTX ;-)
If you're already spending over 1000 bucks I would go all in with the 4090. You will not regret it but you will regret if your 4080 isn't fast enough in some cases
I just purchased a founders edition 4080 for my new build soon! Great video.
Would have loved to see Darktide included as i play it the most right now and have a 4080 on its way. :)
I dip into the 80's right now when much fire is going on.
Good video, I also upgraded from the RTX3080 10GB to the RTX4080 because I just cant get my hands on the 4090. even though I paid $1250 for the 4080 I am very happy and can run everything 4k maxed.
Hi. I am planning to sell laptop and buy a PC withing next 2-4 month and i have a question for you please: why would you even try to put your hands on 4090 if 4080 is much cheaper and as we can see here it delivers pretty fine performance? PS: all new cards of this year are rediculusly overpriced, i wish there was a way to boycott both companies!
@@user-du8yt9gv1m price to performance is still better on the 4090.
I've bought used 3080 for 500$,
While 4080 is 2000$ in my country.
So hell no.
me too but i think when the 7900XTX is out i will sell the 3080 again for 500 bucks but 700 on top and have a brand new 4080 killer i wouldnt even buy the 40 series because of that connector that might burn your house lol
I wish they were that cheap in my country the 4080 is more like 2400+
DEF this video helped me out. Looking to upgrade my gpu from the gtx 1080 and im looking to do 1440p/165Hz so the 4080 would be insane for what im trying to do. Also new sub from me
I got the palit rtx4080 gamerock design and its a beast and i dont regret it
With whole OLED gaming monitor taking off, I can finally hope for a solid 4K Gaming Monitor. Don’t need to super fast just 120hz or even 100hz would do fine. Can’t wait to play single player games on those.
Awesome comparison man. I’m finally getting my very first gaming PC real soon! excited to see how the 4080 plays on my monitor in person. 😍
What monitor? Im planning to build my 3rd PC when my 2nd reach 6 years this coming august. But GPU and CPU are bad price, bad power consumption.
@@fynkozari9271 that’s why i’m going with a pre-built, also because i’m just lazy and don’t wanna build one. i’m using an LG 27GP83B-B gaming monitor which supports 165hz and can be overclocked to 180hz with an Nvidia gpu.
@@sinprevails if you have a 4080 you need a better monitor
@@billyhumpfy7031 with a 4090 you can get 150-200 fps on 4K resolution. why would i need a better monitor for a 4080 if the gaming performance is similar ? my monitor is 165hz stock and 180hz overclocked.
@@billyhumpfy7031 it’s also G-SYNC compatible, it’s literally made for Nvidia cards.
I just got a new rig with an msi suprim x 4080. Excited to play all these games on PC once again!
So fun fact about the SUPER DLSS. It does not affect latency so even tho you’re getting free frames your reaction time is still back to whatever frames it was prior to turning it on. So IE if you were getting 60fps in Warzone and turning on give you over 100fps in reality it’ll feel like you’re playing on 60fps. So the “snappiness” should be there. So if you get a low tier 4000 series card and stuff goes down to sub 30fps and turning it on Super DLSS gives you 60fps it’ll feel laggy control wise.
DLSS actually negatively affects latency. If you cap framerate at 60 fps on both native and dlss, your input latency will rise with dlss. If you go from 60 fps native to 120 fps dlss, you will have a reduction in input latency with dlss. You just won't have the same reduction as if you went from 60-120 natively. DLSS is an amazing technology and kept my rtx 2080 playing new games to this day, while looking better than native in many games. It's an amazing feature and will be the future of super high end graphics, along with fsr.
Yeah, I won't accuse the youtuber of intentionally lying, but the way he segues from a discussion of latency/responsiveness to "DLSS 3 is magic free frames" is misleading at best. DLSS 3 can be a wonderful feature in the right situation, but the one thing it can never do is improve responsiveness.
I like this guy's content generally, but this feels like an 8.5 minute advertisement for Nvidia.
Building my first pc soon. Targeting a build for 4k 120fps. I think a 7900 xtx with a ryzen 7000 cpu will be perfect.
I think we are still a few generations away from getting 4k 120. Cards might be getting more powerful but graphics are getting more demanding.
If you don´t care for RayTracing, the 7900xtx is gonna be faster then the 4080.
nope, an i7 13th gen with a 4070 ti would be perfect
Nice improvement. Still too damn expensive for an 80 series card.
Nicely put, thank you
12700K/3080Ti running an LG C2 42" 4K OLED.
4K is slightly too demanding for my rig, so I use CRU to create unscaled PC resolutions that run better and create a wider aspect, such as 2880x1440, 3840x1620, and so forth. These resolutions run in a pure black "letterbox" format at 120hz. BF2042 runs at a sustained 116fps at 2880x1440 in ultra mode without DLSS. Looks amazing.
I definitely want the 4080 FE with an EK block on it. Maybe next year when availability and pricing stabilize.
4080 is *WAY* too overpriced here in Australia. $2,400 at the cheapest.
I recently upgraded pretty much my entire PC for 400 dollars less than the price of a 4080.
I bought a new motherboard, an 850w gold PSU, CPU cooler, an i5-12600K that came with COD MWII, an RTX 3080 and a bunch of RGB fans for the case. I already have an SSD, 16 gb RAM and a case.
Would I get 20/30 frames more on a 4080? Yes, I would. Is the card alone worth more than pretty much an entire PC? Absolutely not in my eyes.
Currently running an i9 10900K with 32GB 3200CL14 memory and a Aorus RTX 3080 Xtreme. I guess my cpu is still good enough considering u run a 10700K. My monitor is a 42" LG C2 so I play on 4K but some games are not feeling good when cranking up everything to Ultra settings. This bugs me and I am going to upgrade to a 4080 in Q1 2023.
The CPU won't make a difference if you're running at 4K resolution. I'm running a 12GB 3080 paired with my i7 9700k and it runs 4K like a dream on C1 OLED. I probably won't upgrade for a while GPU prices are too insane at the moment and my 3080 12GB is still a very capable 4K card.
@@strker99 Depends on what your definition of "like a dream" is. Like a dream is 100+ fps and some games I play often wil hit that like Overwatch all settings maxed out. Other games like CP2077 or God of War won't run in 100+ fps with everything maxed out. So like a dream is not the right term to use. A 4090 will do the trick much better than the 3080 in my usecase.
@@strker99 the 3080 is the entry level sweet spot for 1440 gaming! The 4090 is honestly the only 4K card out rn
Im happy you included a Grounded game, it can be quite demanding on ultra settings, so thanks !
Happy with 1440p for now. Skipping 4000 series and rdna3. I only paid €1350 for a 2080ti, 4 years ago..I've just upgraded from an i7 6700k to an i5 13600k this month. Still on ddr4 too.
Great quality video. Just got my 4080 with a 13900K, lucky enough to find a £150 discount. Should arrive in about 2 weeks. Yes, the card is overpriced compared to previous generations, but it still looks like an absolute beast and an impressive piece of technology. Can't wait to try it out.
I'm running a 12gb 3080 card at 1440p and it is a nice spot to be. If price on 4080 is below 1k then I'd say very successful but current prices are insane
If I turn on Ultra RT on CP2077 on my 3080 50fps is a luxury :) and with dlss performance in 4K, also tested lots or UE 5.0,1 forest nanite tech demos and 3080 is barely a 30fpish in 4K, so my verdict is this gpu actually slowly but surely beginns to suck and few have seen it others still want it
Picked up my first gaming PC on ebay rtx 3080 gpu for 1200 Last year.... definitely nailed it.i get 4k and a solid 60fps on my 75 inch.looks absolutely stunning.blows the PS5 I had last year out the water.
I had a gt 1030 for 5 years, got in july at msrp (250 dollars) a rtx 3050. I am happy with my card since I only run 1080p and sometimes use dldsr to upscale to 1440p(I have a 1080p monitor 75Hz(I'm a casual gamer not competitive)). Furthermore, I have a ryzen 5 1600 af at 3.7GHz(I have a bottleneck of 0%-40%, but I don't mind). Can still run cs go at 220-250 fps average and dying light 2 high settings except for fog on low (The fog takes 20-25fps off with no difference) without dlss getting 60fps average. I run dlss on quality since it looks better in dying light 2 and getting 70-80 fps. DLSS on quality on 1080p does look nice and choose how sharp you want the game, can use fsr if there is no dlss and use dlss with DLDSR that upscale my 1080p to 1440p. At the end, I am happy with my card and might only upgrade the cpu to a 5600 non x and get 32gb of ram. Then my build is done.
I have an 1080 ;) so for me it would be worth it, but i am still not sure what to do. Should i go with AMD, should i wait a little longer for the prices to go down, or just go for it now and buy a new system with a 4080/90? Its a bit overwhelming
I feel u man. I was rocking 1060 6 GB with old i5-4560 and around 1 year ago I got whole new parts for me except a GPU becouse it was so fricking expensive at the moment. One month ago I finally got rtx 3080 and ohh boy was it worthed. And tbh im kinda disappointed in RT. If it's not important for you i would w8 some time for those AMD card's, but if money isn't problem go for new Nvidia stuff.
@@evative9031 thx, i wouod really like to make the jump into full 4k gaming with the new build. So maybe even wait until the ti versions. Do you think we will get them anytime soon?
It depends on your local prices.
But, in Europe, USA most places the 6800xt or 6900xt from store is best choice.
Or buy 2nd hand, lots of great value in there like 3060ti, 6700xt.
Unless you have a 4k screen, anything above 3080 is overkill.
@@goassnmane if you want 4k and Raytracing, then 4080 (although imo it's too expensive).
If you dont need max settings and 100 fps on all games, then a 6900xt is enough and much better value than both 7900xt and 7900xtx
I have 1060 and I plan to buy new pc with 4080, but im waiting for prices to go down, because 1060 is still enough for me xD
definitely worthy upgrade!! best bit runs very cool ideal for mini itx build !!
Just got my strix 4080 oc a couple days paired with my 13900k ...i can tell performance is night and day compared to my evga rtx 3080ti ftw3 ultra. Power efficient and the tech that comes with it.
Not for that price no, the 4090 as ridiculous as it is, gives a better price to performance ratio
4090 and 4080 have the same price performance ratio..... not by accident.
Honestly kinda crazy to me how much more difficult 4k from 2k is to run than 2k from 1k. Built a 9900k/1080ti back when they were new and still sit well above 75fps on 2k most of the time. Even though I'm not planning on 4k display anytime soon I have always been a future proof person so I can wait 4-6 years before even thinking of upgrading. Dream specs I'm shopping for are 13900k and 4090. Although I missed 4090 launch and I'm not paying 700-1200 over msrp so I'm hoping for a 4090ti and I'll make sure to hit that launch 😔
4k is almost 9m pixels 2k id like 3.5m and 1080p is like 2m so no wonder
@@JustOneGuy yeah for sure. It's just nuts to see how it translates to fps
how do you record game, it looks so cool
I'm running 12 Gpu's, ranging from the 60ti-3080ti. so of course, on my main rig I got that beauty of a founder's edition 3080ti locked and loaded, although I was able to grip up a 4080 through amazon for a stack! not sure if I'll keep it. btw thank you for that plug on that game grounded, I am downloading it now from Xbox game pass as I type lol. I also upgraded my monitor from the Acer Nitro XV272U 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) 170Hz , to a beauty Acer Nitro XV322QK 31.5" 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) 144Hz.
Probably more rare to buy a 3080-4080 at msrp than seeing a unicorn
yeah its kinda funny how people talk about msrp this , msrp there, and just buy a 4090 at that price and bla bla bla. msrp is a myth for halo cards. (heck for all nvidia cards as well)
Yeah try to get a 4090 at msrp, internet people is so funny
I feel the 4080 is the best in terms of price to performance and future proofing
much bigger upgrade than I expected. I had a 3080 that could barely run witcher in rtx, now I am playing at 80-100 fps with dlss 3 in 4k with no quality downgrade from native. If the card was 800$, it would not be in stock and I would not have it. So price does not bother me.
Does DLSS actually increase the snappiness and feel of the games or it just shows high frame rate numbers to make gamers happy?
As a 2K player, 3080 is still more than enough for me.
I have 1440p too and my 3070 is sufficient for me. Though I can't really use ray tracing
@@vonix9199 raytracing is good for sure but doesn't worth dropping fps to half. As I see it, only 4090 can properly handle rt.
No, the end.
Just bought a 4080 upgrading from my current 1080. Very excited.
I could of sworn when the 3080 came out vids where showing 100+ FPS on cyberpunk max 4K
Im not interested in the 4080 but its nice to see a gpu comparison using different games then the same 5
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you say on a video with cyberpunk, forza, rdr2 and cod warzone.
Only less apparent game is Bright memory infinite. If you want more games benchmarked, check gamers nexus, hardware unboxed, or even some of the other now decently popular reviewers.
Very nice to see the 4080 handling 4K with almost ease I’m thinking of upgrading my 2080ti this year to the 4080 so can’t wait for that
I have my sights set on 4k oled. Id love a 32" or some kind of ultrawide. I dont know how many more frames an ultrawide eats up over 16:9, but until my dream monitor comes out, i have no need to upgrade at 1440; even though im still rocking the 2070s.
most ultrawides have less than 4k so you even gain perfeormance...
4080 is the sweet spot card for 4K UW
I bought rtx 3080ti for around 700$ and I think that even if rtx 4070ti will appear in january 3080 was and will be best option to buy in my opinion.
I'm sure it's an alright card. I picked up a 3080 earlier in the year when I could get one for £780.
But these new prices are just far too much of a jump. And the 4090 requires too much messing about with a new PSU, and even then it could still melt.
7900 XTX this gen if I will upgrade at all. I would probably wait for a 7950 and the 40XXTi's first. I can afford it. I just don't like getting ripped off. At the end of the day if they can get a console in your hand for £500 you shouldn't have to pay 3X that for just a GPU alone. That's mocking consumers.
It’s an amazing card not just alright … I have it . Best card out next to the 4090 I could have gotten the 4090 but I went with the 4080 . It’s enough
dont buy amd products please
Hi Alex what made you decide to get the 4080 instead of 4090?
If you were asking me i would say : Price and availability Is so bad !!
I only want a STRIX version and the 4090 STRIX is 3000€ and the 4080 STRIX is 1700€ over here.
@@fdiskformat5049 Damn that sucks, over here its about 550 euro difference between 4090 and 4080 so maybe it would make more sense for me to jump to 4090 if I was going to buy one
still rocking my 1080ti strix, still game at 1080p 240hz, but ive just been waiting for the right time to upgrade my montior and gpu,
current setup: 5900x 16gb 3600mhz 1080ti strix oc to 2025 mhz and my older preditor montior 1080 240hz
Best upgrade from 3080 would be 4090. NVIDIA can't make their GPU fast enough, so they generate more Frames.
7900xtx
Toooo late....... already got my 4080 for 1k, which is fairly cheap for a gpu, considering the market is over priced
I'm curious , what is your computer case ?
good review, thanks.
The 4080 is great especially with the power draw being less than the 3080. But for now I will be satisfied with my 3080 for 1440p high refresh gaming, even if I have to tweak some settings here and there
Same here. Rather than waiting for the 4080 I just went for the 3080 instead, now that it was almost down to MSRP. Works great at 1440p, even if it struggles with my monster 5k monitor :P
@@torbjrnvrebekk3178 yeah 1440p on the 3080 is a nice sweet spot with resolution so its crisp but you still get the high refresh rate 🙏 ill wait a couple years before i jump on the 4k high refresh rate bandwagon
1440p is the best. 4K is such a marginal improvement in visuals that it's really not worth the performance hit.
@@Skrenja yeah honestly! Its nice that we are getting closer to 4k high refresh gaming but its still too early and too expensive for that. 1440p is perfectly fine and cheaper for the average gamer to enjoy
Same here man moreover i have a 1080p monitor(60fps) so i won't feel anything different from using a 4080 either ig 😂. Unless i connect the pc to my 4k tv
Yes it is! I went from a 2080 to 4080 OC Strix and it's amazing playing ultra 4k games at 120fps.
Congrats, you wasted your money. If you're gonna give Ngreedia that amount of money for a graphics card, just buy a 4090 at that point
Sitting here with my 1080 and I'm still not sure if 2-3x the fps is worth it but I reeeeeaaally need an upgrade
I just came across your video and I was wondering should I get a RTX 4080 for my current system (4790k + 1080ti) or just keep my GPU and upgrade the rest of the PC?
Definitely upgrade the rest of your pc That cpu is ancient at this point
I upgraded from 2070 to 4090 and I’m so satisfied when the amount of performance this gpu outputs! I mean 120fps 4k maxed out flight sim ? Just dream come true
Can i get that 3080!? Lol
Which Nvidia Panel settings did you had?
I went from 3080 to 4080 as well, just a couple of weeks ago. For me it was Flight Sim 2020, now i can finally enjoy maxed out settings with decent framerate. Before it was literally unplayable 10-15 fps in New York on Ultra Preset, on an UIltra Wide 1440p monitor, now i get lowest 57 avg 72 fps low to the ground and little higer from buildings i get in to high 80s mid 90s. Frame Gen is just amazing boost CPU: R9 5900x GPU: RTX 4080 RAM: 32Gb
if 4080 drops below 1000$ only then I'd get it.
It should be 800 bucks……
The frame generation isn't quite where it needs to be. You notice it bigtime in fast paced games. There's quite a few vids covering this. Where they're not real frames, I think it's unfair to compare last gen vs new gen on a strictly FPS output chart.
DLSS 2.0 is actually extremely accurate and preferred for fast moving games.
If you had it you would understand.
@@5000Seabass I'm talking about just the frame generation. I have a 3070ti. so No I don't have the feature, as its only available on 40 series. But if you watch even one in depth review of Frame gen, they all show the crazy ghosting and artifacts during fast moving gameplay. I think you're the one who don't understand lol
@@pinplays968 Oh I see you’re talking about 3.0.
I thought you were talking about his use of DLSS in general, I didn’t notice any uses of frame generation on here. Just normal 2.0
I’ve only 3.0 in the Witcher 3 and it’s awful
What CPU you use in this review?.
im new to pc so sorry that my questions are very dumb. 1) if i build a pc and graphics card is a 4080, will fps be super high and good if i play on high settings (option before 4k)? 2)if i use the 4080 graphics card in high setting (but not 4k) gameplay (example in apex legends), does it heat less or it heats the same amount as if i play on 4k high setting? btw. i play on 1600x900 res size on windowed mode. on a potato laptop. thank you
The gpu energy efficient go crazy
Yeah I am getting amd 7900xtx I think it's better value and better fps than this. I just want high frames on 1440p 165hertz.
Kinda redundant getting 7900xtx for 165hz at 1440p
thats asumming you can snatch one at launch or even at msrp (rumors talk about high prices on aib models)... scalpers know that we crave for those cards as well, so expect a full sweep at launch date and oos everywhere. maybe the xt will be the new 4080 on amd side.
@@brode7111 Why is it redundant? 3080 won't play Spiderman at that fps. Future games won't play it at that fps on 3080. I don't see your point. It's not like I am playing esports games and I would agree. I got both Spiderman games darktide, Calisto protocol, hogwarts legacy, and atomic heart. Don't give advice for something you don't understand.
@@ravell2854 My advice is keep trying. I assume cards will be 100 or 200 more. Aib partners want to make profit too. I could of bought several 4090s it won't fit in my case and only bestbuy has founder cards only one I want to put in my case. Common sense has to kick at some point. Gpu prices have always had partner cards be a little more. 2014 things weren't different, but people have short term memories.
3080 as a 1440p card easily allows for 120fps in many games. A great buy if its on a good sale price.
That's the problem though. It is STILL above MSRP. Even resale prices are near MSRP. At least in Western-Europe.
thanks I had the same behaviour with many cars in NFS unbound
Yup -- 4080 Gigabyte Aorus Master, 7800x3D, 64GB DDR5 CL30 RAM, LG C3 42" @ 3840 x 2160. The 4090 is astronomically priced due to the impending embargo, so while the 4080 is also not priced very well it was the way to go over the 7900 xtx for me personally.
Its best to make the jump to the 4090 instead of settling for the 4080, more bang for your buck.
as long as your doorway is big enough to fit the card in the door.
@@inrptn Yep, 4080 and 4090 are the same size as well.
But it isn't always. In the UK the price difference can be £600-£800.
Also if you are 1440p no point.
Stop parroting the TH-camrs BS. The 4080's only sin is it's price.
Please don't reply with the usual garbage of it's cut down blah blah, remember the 4090 is also a true 8K card, despite the 4080 being rated for 8k we all know it isn't.
The 4080 is a beast, but priced badly.. the assumption and fallacy that the 4090 is only a bit more ONLY stands on FE cards and try to get an FE card.
Currently only place in the UK that has a 4090 it is £1889 and it was that at launch, VS a 4080 can be had for £1200 you do the math and tell us about bang for buck right there.
@@PKDeviluke25 this is false imo. A lot of TH-camrs are telling people not to buy the 4080… well what are they going to say when the amd aibs are 1200$ but not as good at ray tracing and dlss 3? Oops spaghettio?
@@2buckgeo843 dlss3 is a non factor plz stop crying. When you get more frames with less latency it's useless because of the point of high frames is low latency
Planned obsolescence ..it applies to graphics cards as well not just in everything else
When 5000 series comes out 4000 series won't get dlss4 that's how they'll make it obsolete shyt like that
My specs are: 12700k @ 5.0, Asus ROG Strix Z690-E, Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 5600 (16X2), EVGA FTW 3080ti, Lian Li Galahad 360 AIO, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1tb/Win. 11 pro, WD Black SN850X 4tb, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1650w., Thermaltake Ceres 500 TG ARGB Case. So would a 4080 upgrade make sense if I was to get a 4k monitor? Or should I wait?
So basically "pay twice the price, for 40% avg uplift". Per dollar that's a 20% reduction in the actual performance you're getting by upgrading. This isn't even technological stagnation, it's technological recession. Truly scary what a little bit of artificial market manipulation can do to an entire tech industry in just 1 year.
I feel like if you can afford a 4080 you should just go for a 4090, especially if you’re aiming for 4K
It’s really a pointless price point
@@SubiKinubi both are....
thats asumming you can find one at msrp... i dont get why people upset that much with "get a 4090 instead" yeah... try to get one at msrp, i dare you, i double dare you
@@ravell2854 I agree. Everyone says the same thing... Just get a 4090....lol, right, I have yet to see any in stock and if they are in stock they are at scalper prices. And when the 3rd party 7900XT and XTX models ship they will be at the same price points as the 4080 and 4090. The XTX will be $1k from AMD direct and will be a paper launch just like last time, so nobody will get their hands on one anyway.
Yeah but 4090 for 450w or more amd 4080 300w so...