As a civilian I was privileged to play OPFOR on several occasions in NC. We nearly all were “issued” actual Russian milled AK’s dated from the early to mid 50’s. They hadn’t been cleaned in years and these were dedicated to just firing blanks, can you imagine the filth. But…. every time, they cycled, semi or full auto.
@Rodentfiftysix It's simpler than you think. Even just last June, I a civilian worked a national guard xctc rotation doing battlefield effects. I live next to a military base and had been applying for many jobs and got a phone call to come work.
@@RodentfiftysixThere was also other contractors there known as COB or civilians on battlefield which use blank firing AKs and were dressed up in old BDU camo to look like an enemy force
I had one of those 20+ years ago (regular Serbian soldier for 1 year), and at least 70% were in a similar or worse shape than this one, mine was 22 years old. They passed years of exploitation in the army and former Yugoslavia wars, and we used them with no problem at all. Just imagine what treatment they had in real war conditions, in rain, mud, and under constant fire. We had a problem with rust in a barrel because soldiers didn't like to clean them, and in war used old ammunition with corrosive elements. They worked great, but accuracy was low. Mine had a 35% rusty barrel, and my result was a 12cm group on 100m (20cm was the maximum to pass drill), mechanical sights, of course.
To my knowledge, they only just started chroming the barrels recently. Bare steel + corrosive ammo is a bad combination if you don't clean it after firing.
We used to use Romanian folders for OPFOR at JRTC, as we had a bunch of AK variants in our H Co arms room back at Ft Myer. We did a lot of OPFOR augmentee rotations down to Ft Polk.
I suspect those dremeled chambers were because the crimps on the blank ammo were causing malfunctions. With weapons that were never going to be used live-fire, it would make sense.
The odd thing is that these guns were made to fire blanks already, for use with the rifle grenades. They shouldn’t have had to auger out the chamber as bad as some were.
When I was in we were sent to VA to train the VA National Guard. We had a special effects company come in from California and set up opfor training. They issued us these exact rifles and some rpks but the muzzles were welded shut. I wonder if they were from the same lot.
Possibly there may be a lot more of these out there that have not been surplused yet or maybe they all wound up in California eventually before they were all surplused
I bought one of the M70 AB2 AKs in 2007 for $450 bucks and it is absolutely mint. Chrome lined barrel, perfect rivets and it still runs like a sewing machine. I installed a Magpul AK grip, an UltiMak gas tube and got a few Magpul 30 round mags and the Angels in Heaven started singing to me.
@@ToxicMasculinity-t5qYou obviously have a Frankenstein M70 AB2. When Zastava Arms produced the M70 AB2 for the then-Yugoslav Army, they didn’t make chrome-lined barrels, which is one of the criticisms for an otherwise very high-quality version of the AK platform. A fun fact is that Yugoslavia sold the license to Iraq, which produced an AK variant under the name Tabuk, and it did have a chrome-lined barrel. Could that be the case with yours?
A life time ago was occasionally rotational OpFor for local Pre-Ranger course candidates in Alaska/6th ID. We had Yugo underfolder AK's. I took to mine, and generally took care of it. Going in and out of the GP small tents with Yuke stoves was always a prob and would see them getting condensation ice accumulation out the wazoo during socked in dead of winter rotations. I neglected my mags interiors a bit and the followers rusted shut (my M-16a1's never did that so I didn't know, first go) and during a "fire fight" the loaded mag (blanks) fired the first round, stripped off the second, and nothing more... figured out what was happening and flipped the rifle upside down, chambered a round, and emptied the mag in bursts - gravity fed. Cool.
I wasn’t so lucky. I got one that had the chamber issue where they had ground the chamber To increase reliability when using blanks. Atlantic firearms put out a statement that those with the issue needed to be returned and were unsafe to shoot Atlantic firearms did give me a full refund upon returning the firearm
@@KLAYCO47 M26 would just scrounge up a new barrel or better condition barrel and fix it himself but we don't all have his experience level. You need to figure out a good name for yours. Op-Fortunate? Combining Op-Force and Fortunate. Since yours has that history and all the character you love as well as a safe lockup.
I fired an automatic version of that gun overseas. Our contract 3rd country nationals that pulled guard duties had them. It was fun to shoot. After about the 3rd round on giggle switch, I was over the 25M target. That brings back memories.
You bloody Mericans STOP whinging try having sweet fuck all or a AK that runs & will keep on running.Just some cunt from the colonies my 2cents rah fkn rah.
Here, in Russia it's a price for a normal Saiga (civilian AK) from the Kalashnikov factory. On the other hand, AR rifles here are overpriced as hell, so they're considered elite product for the rich, because there are almost no supply of foreign ones, and those ones that are manufactured locally are scarce.
Our wonderful government banned russian imports. Izhmash is expensive here, zentico stuff too. Tula 7.62x39 is $0.60 per round or more, have seen as high as $0.80. Which is crazy because ten years ago it was $0.15 per round or less. A zastava m70 like mine is $1100. On the flip side, you can buy an entry level AR here for $700. They used to be cheaper but we are coming up on an election for president and gun prices go nuts for a while.
We can't get Russian steel ammo anymore other than what is in warehouses which are drying up fast. I stocked up on a lot of Wolf and Barnaul, but I'm always looking for more. Minimum Russian 7.62x39 is 50 cents per round which is crazy. Just prior to the ammo band you could get it for like 35 cents per round. I didn't get into shooting until 2020, but I know the prices were much better prior to that. I'd like to get a 5.45x39, but the ammo is just to scare and too expensive.
I shake my head every time I think about the gun shows back in the 1990s, and how I walked right by $200 AKs thinking I could find a better deal on something else.
I replaced the barrel/front site on mine. Had a qualified gun smith do it (I live in AZ and my gunsmith was mentored by Jim). Later, I had to replace the trigger as the spring broke and shot up into the bolt, jamming the gun.
I had a similar problem with Aim. I bought a LEO p226 trade from them and it arrived in very rough shape, someone had taken an angry beaver to the sig rail to attempt to turn the rail into picrail and the tool walked straight up the side of the slide, leaving huge gouges and an unusable rail. I told aim I wasn't happy with the purchase and they refunded me everything except for the $20 transfer fee and $5 background, which wasn't on them anyway. I wish they would have offered to just send me a replacement or different model, but it is what it is. I personally don't think they should be shipping out *ANY* guns that have had incompetent users take a Dremel to them, but to each their own.
Early Ukraine I remember seeing Yugoslav aks used for training troops expected to use 74s they were firing yugo brass on stripper clips they were pulling them off loose and loading mags I also remember blank devices but this was all being done somewhere in Europe they were semis from American market so this is a known thing I don’t know about these but a kit is selling for the asking price so I doubt this is a gimmick doesn’t make economic sense to jack up semis with barrels. The import laws doesn’t allow barrels. So no I’d bet 5k their not a gimmick
@@donwyoming1936 this may be true. However the US military does possess a crap ton of foreign weapons for familiarization training. We once did a whole firing line of every small arm you can imagine for “fam-fire”. Or used for Op-For role playing.
I lived through the AK renaissance when you could get new-production imports for $600-700, and ammo was still $20c/rd. Its crazy to see dremeled-out surplus rifles selling for $600, but yours honestly looks like a really nicely built rifle. I'd say you got a killer deal given the current market.
I bought one of those new hare back in 2012 or so DCI m70 ab 2…it’s been a tank and I’ve never had a problem..these are from the same batch …just a kitchen more beat I tried getting another one but they sold out within a half hour…crazy
@@Teamskt-qf3ng Massachusetts has a magazine capacity ban sooo that's why he's running those magazines. He can't get new ones that aren't capped in Massachusetts. I get it gun laws are unconstitutional as hell but he's forced to unless he goes across state lines and buys there.
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVEN just go across state lines then. stop complying. If I had an AR 15, it would have a coat hanger in it already 😂 I’m just an AK guy
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVENhow is that even a 'go across state line' loophole? I just find that odd that they don't want high capacity magazines, but it's fine if you bought them physically from a different state and drove back home that way 😂
I love mine. Mine is from over a decade ago. I recently repainted my night sights. Mine has matching parts. It's a beautiful gun. The two paddles on your safety is a feature of the Yugo Aks to manipulate it with the stock folded. I got everything but a rifle grenade for it. I got the magazines, pouches, surplus wood handguards, I got the rifle grenade muzzle device and I have the bayonet. I love it. I've shot it a lot from targets out to 500 meters to just mag dumping trash. I tought myself how to bumpfire on it.
Thanks, Enjoyed, I have had several M70ab2s over the past years, Even a Milled one. If you have a loaded mag and a live round in the chamber ,With safety On,You can cycle the Live round out, Without picking up a round from the mag, Only Yugoz. FYI.
Did not know that! I took mine to the range and dropped the bolt with the safety on. Pulled the trigger and got a click no bang. Flipped the safety off and cycled the bolt and it chambered a round fine. That explains it, it’s a feature not a flaw! Lol. I thought I did something wrong.
I have one of the Century Arms M70ab2 I got like 10 years ago and it's a skookum choocher. One of the best AKs of all time for sure! Also I hope those handguards you got are yugo or they wont fit. Yugos are almost an inch longer than other ak handguards. That goes for the gas tube too.
One question that popped into my head was that the US MIC is well known for training certain 'foreign' forces that use such a weapon on our soil, and even run warehouses within your state that house tons of such weapons for distribution around the world for CIA-backed 'operations' by certain 'allies' of the ISIS kind. But that's a really sweet gun for the price. You did real well on the 'what am I getting lottery' as compared to other buyers. Especially with the head spacing.
I got a Romarms AK a few weeks ago for $350 out the door, and it looked like absolute hell, but I was so excited to own an AK that I, despite my better judgement, got together with my buddy who came back to visit and we shot at some mud from sunset to evening. This was incredibly dumb, but it worked flawlessly and it cleaned up well. I'm gonna remember that day.
You need to get a rifle grenade spigot for it they are $30 give or take and you can get surplus m31 training grenades (JNA used 22mm grenades) for theses as well along with some blank 7.62 and you will have a very fun rifle.
True. I was looking to buy a parts kit to build but cheap ones are $530+ and you still need a barrel and receiver. You’re easily pushing $900+ to build one out.
I bought one from Aim Surplus. Rack#149. Filthy mess when it arrived but I was expecting that based on Aim’s description so no complaint there. Chamber was only lightly polished, feed ramp was untouched. Passed headspace check after cleaning so I took it to the range yesterday. Had the trigger pin walk out, wire retainer was not seated properly. Never had an AK before so I didn’t know to check that. Used Norma brass case from Academy (range doesn’t allow anything magnetic). Shot a 1 1/2” group at only 25 yards so that’s like 4.5 moa? Not keen on that but it could be me, I haven’t shot irons in years. Forgot to pack the sight tool so I’ll need to make a second trip to adjust the windage and get some more practice with it, elevation was spot on with the rear sight at 200@25 yards using a 6 o’clock hold. Great price, happy to have it. Apex in Colorado has the grenade spigots in stock so I grabbed one of those, have you found anyone that has the practice grenades for sale?
I was first an sks guy, i bought my first AK after briefly owning a Tavor bullpup when it first came out. I was never interested in an AR. I owned multiple AKs and even built them. Well if you don't believe TH-cam has any power to sway people in voting or purchases, two video warriors made a video showing how reliable an AK was Vs an AR in mud, never mind i was perfectly happy and proficient with the AK platform, several years latter I sold all my AKs for cheap pre mass panic virus 19, and got into a platform i didn't care for. This guy literally sold all these used guns. If I could go back in time, id had just deleted TH-cam. And for awhile, years i stopped watching it. Now i don't buy guns anymore. I have too many as it is and this guy sold all those used guns. By the way underfolders where my favorite. Especially with paracord wrapped on the sides.
Great video! Being excited about 599 is crazy to me. We bought 2 for that price in 2004 I think. I remember trying to get all my friends to go in on cases of the parts kits, I think it was $70 per parts kit if you bought 10 or more. You could also get a crate of 10 SKS’s w/accessories, for around $700. I knew in my gut the prices would go nuts. I still want one with trench art and 90210 stickers lol
My Wasr 10 when I was 18 I bought it for 349 out the door brand new , 2 mags, a sling, oil can, a complete bayonet, and a cetme bayonet came in the box with it . Lone wolf Guns Az
The charging handle is shaved that way to facilitate a forward thrust 'blocking' wound. You chest check someone w/that weapon, you're effectivley utilizing the charging handle as a chisel/knife, best utilzied into a combatant's exposed sternum or forehead. Instructor tool.
A lot of AKs came into the country from all over the world, and they were all in various states of quality. I can tell you that a Dremel feed ramp repair was not uncommon. After a serious chamber and bore cleaning, you should be good to go. Especially since it has passed it's headspace check.
Be wery carefull when firing rifle granades. Recoil and pull up rotation can be wery big and whit heawy results. If not holding rifle correct it can result in geting hit on the head whit tip of the rifle granade sight. We had injuries, bad ones. It requiers strong man grip. Read user manual first
These really remind me of the SOC contractor WASR AKs and semi-auto RPKs (Century AES-10B) that were floating around 10 years ago. They were supposedly used by Ugandan military contractors guarding American or whatever bases back during the 2nd Iraq war heyday... I owned and later sold a WASR and AES-10B supposedly used back then - they had the middle east moon dust all over - under the handguards, etc.
They'll probably sell the returned ones as parts kits. 😂😂 Replacing the handguards with surplus wood is one of the best things you can for it, the handguards are horrendous since they aren't insulated and get hot fast.
Yeah they used these at a camp in Mississippi too...they sent us regular army guys out there from polk to camp shelby to run a sort of box rotation for the guard guys out there. Used these exaxt same rifles with a pinned and welded, or maybe just welded BFA. Much love brother keep the content coming *edit the contracts at that site that ran their sort of arms room did keep them in good condition and made sure we had the tools to keep them well maintained and that they wouldn't accept a turn in if they weren't....
I made a lot of these guns for usmc out of ak 74s. Those are pretty rough but i would imagine they were modified for propane/oxygen simulators. Basically you have a backpack and sound like a real ak firing with actual blowback ext.
I bought one close to 10 years ago that im not sure on the barrel mfg. Some people say green mountain made barrels and assembled for CAI. I had to peen the nut that holds the dust cover button because it fell out, and the taper pin that holds the nut for the underfolder fell out as well. Some quick fixes and it's been solid for 4kish rounds. Date on mine is 1983.
This makes me feel great about the $600 like-new romy draco I just bought. I wish I would have gotten into the AK market when it made sense instead of being in 1st grade, so now I'm trying to get into the game before the prices go stratospheric.
Thanks for the video, mine looks very much like yours. I got one from Aim Surplus as well and did a video on it. Mine looks pretty good, the grenade sight is siezed, it'll definitely require some work. I decided to keep mine. I got mine for the same reason as you did. It headspaced okay, but I need to do a very thorough cleaning. Yours seems a little more worn than mine externally anyway. Mine looks about the same internally.
@KLAYCO47 thanks, I appreciate that, I was able to get the grenade sight un-seized and got the barrel cleaned out, it cleaned up much better than I was expecting. On a side note I did notice mine was missing the underfolder retaining pin...probably why it was so loose.
Well to be fair some of that was justified. But the people that got bad ones got full refunds the people that were lucky enough to get good ones got something pretty special for an extremely low price in my opinion. I don't think there's been much to be excited about this year. This is kind of exciting to me
They only reason I can think of that the feed ramps and chamber would be dremeled like that would be that crimped blanks wouldn't feed. Pretty crazy though.
I had one that you would've thought had a tight headspace but the gas tube star indents were out of spec and was pinching the bolt carrier upon closing
I must say, AIM Surplus has been very good. I've been buying LEO trade-ins from them for years. If it doesn't work, just talk to them. They'll fix the issue
I think in this case the buying public didnt know what they were expecting. Honestly, if you get one of the dinged up ones, treat it like a build. Go to a gunsmith, get a new barrel and anything else that you need and have it rebuilt. Probably still pretty cheap.
I paid $499 back in the day for Waffen Werks AK-74. One of rivets is wallered out on the receiver. Looks like the receiver wasnt properly heat treated. I need to send it off and have it fixed.
Had a couple different variants of the military configuration M70 about a decade ago. I felt they were kinda clunky. Had to contact a guy in Serbia to get a dummy grenade which was cool.
I got one of those M70AB2 from Riflegear for 900ish in 2013, it was in good condition with no scratches. The front sight post was canted, bugged me so much I sold it a year later for 900. Even got the LRBHO mags but none of the 5 worked. Got me a DDI Bulgarian bakelite underfolder that was 700 to 800ish, replaced bakelite with russian laminated, looked just like a type 3.
I guess the gunsmiths or whomever who went nuts with the dremel or other tools, might've been correcting out of spec guns with the addition of getting them to fire blanks. The blanks might be out of spec also leading them to get wild with the mods, in addition to being under-trained or apprentices. Just a thought.
Guys laugh at the fit n' finish now, but good heavents the backstory for these has the making of a strong collectible in the years to come. Rack numbers always add value, so even if this thing is janky and a little crusted over, I doubt you'll lose anything on it in the long run. Gives me strong vibes that we'll be kicking ourselves for not buying three in about 20 years
I was SOOO close to buying one of these. In the end, i decided it wouldn't be a good first AK, so i passed. It was in my cart along with payment info for a day though. lol
As a civilian I was privileged to play OPFOR on several occasions in NC. We nearly all were “issued” actual Russian milled AK’s dated from the early to mid 50’s. They hadn’t been cleaned in years and these were dedicated to just firing blanks, can you imagine the filth. But…. every time, they cycled, semi or full auto.
No you weren't.
@@Rodentfiftysix were you there?
Robin sage by any chance?
@Rodentfiftysix It's simpler than you think. Even just last June, I a civilian worked a national guard xctc rotation doing battlefield effects. I live next to a military base and had been applying for many jobs and got a phone call to come work.
@@RodentfiftysixThere was also other contractors there known as COB or civilians on battlefield which use blank firing AKs and were dressed up in old BDU camo to look like an enemy force
I had one of those 20+ years ago (regular Serbian soldier for 1 year), and at least 70% were in a similar or worse shape than this one, mine was 22 years old. They passed years of exploitation in the army and former Yugoslavia wars, and we used them with no problem at all. Just imagine what treatment they had in real war conditions, in rain, mud, and under constant fire. We had a problem with rust in a barrel because soldiers didn't like to clean them, and in war used old ammunition with corrosive elements. They worked great, but accuracy was low. Mine had a 35% rusty barrel, and my result was a 12cm group on 100m (20cm was the maximum to pass drill), mechanical sights, of course.
To my knowledge, they only just started chroming the barrels recently. Bare steel + corrosive ammo is a bad combination if you don't clean it after firing.
ja sam imao AB2...dobre su puske nema kaj...danas ju kupis za kikiriki,ima ih ko dreka-jos uvijek.zlu ne trebalo
I, played OPFOR at Fort Irwin and carried a full auto Ak -47 with blank adapter and miles transmitter in 1990
That gear sucks tbh🤣, the miles gear. Doesn’t register shots and most the time op for just walks up and says your dead. Sim rounds are the way to go
@@stancemedia4727 But it's 1990. The telephone couldn't even transmit messages.
Nowadays they've got pneumatic ones.
We used to use Romanian folders for OPFOR at JRTC, as we had a bunch of AK variants in our H Co arms room back at Ft Myer.
We did a lot of OPFOR augmentee rotations down to Ft Polk.
I was gonna say these things look very similar to the ones that were used at ITX at 29 palms.
I heard it was the Ray Charles institute of gun smithing that built io ak’s.
You mean SDI?
@@declineofthewest.No, they actually don’t know how to do anything.
The Little Richard’s of the Poor charity built them
Nice slabside mag. I picked up a bunch many years ago.
I heard Kamala Harris built Pioneer AKs lmao
Get ready for new barreled versions for 900$ from Atlantic in about a month…😂
No shit, right?
I suspect those dremeled chambers were because the crimps on the blank ammo were causing malfunctions. With weapons that were never going to be used live-fire, it would make sense.
@@aetius9 yeah that's the general consensus
The odd thing is that these guns were made to fire blanks already, for use with the rifle grenades. They shouldn’t have had to auger out the chamber as bad as some were.
@@stephenhenry1038true but they would have been single loaded in there not a mag full of blanks over and over again like these saw
And this is why you use wood bullet blanks.
@@stephenhenry1038 Military weapons are made to shoot blanks for training.
When I was in we were sent to VA to train the VA National Guard. We had a special effects company come in from California and set up opfor training. They issued us these exact rifles and some rpks but the muzzles were welded shut. I wonder if they were from the same lot.
Possibly there may be a lot more of these out there that have not been surplused yet or maybe they all wound up in California eventually before they were all surplused
These were never US military property. Definitely owned by a contractor
I bought one of the M70 AB2 AKs in 2007 for $450 bucks and it is absolutely mint. Chrome lined barrel, perfect rivets and it still runs like a sewing machine. I installed a Magpul AK grip, an UltiMak gas tube and got a few Magpul 30 round mags and the Angels in Heaven started singing to me.
The Yugoslavia M70 AB2 back then did not have chrome lined barrels.
The Mamaws boys in the US Military screwed those up Real Good. Just like everything else they come in contact with. 😂🇺🇲
@@oopsydaisy07 Hmmm, well thats odd because mine does.
@@ToxicMasculinity-t5qYou obviously have a Frankenstein M70 AB2. When Zastava Arms produced the M70 AB2 for the then-Yugoslav Army, they didn’t make chrome-lined barrels, which is one of the criticisms for an otherwise very high-quality version of the AK platform. A fun fact is that Yugoslavia sold the license to Iraq, which produced an AK variant under the name Tabuk, and it did have a chrome-lined barrel. Could that be the case with yours?
@@LaughOutLoud696 Possibly, it is a Century Arms build.
A life time ago was occasionally rotational OpFor for local Pre-Ranger course candidates in Alaska/6th ID. We had Yugo underfolder AK's. I took to mine, and generally took care of it. Going in and out of the GP small tents with Yuke stoves was always a prob and would see them getting condensation ice accumulation out the wazoo during socked in dead of winter rotations. I neglected my mags interiors a bit and the followers rusted shut (my M-16a1's never did that so I didn't know, first go) and during a "fire fight" the loaded mag (blanks) fired the first round, stripped off the second, and nothing more... figured out what was happening and flipped the rifle upside down, chambered a round, and emptied the mag in bursts - gravity fed. Cool.
I wasn’t so lucky. I got one that had the chamber issue where they had ground the chamber To increase reliability when using blanks. Atlantic firearms put out a statement that those with the issue needed to be returned and were unsafe to shoot Atlantic firearms did give me a full refund upon returning the firearm
Bummer man! yeah I put that statement in the video
@@KLAYCO47 M26 would just scrounge up a new barrel or better condition barrel and fix it himself but we don't all have his experience level.
You need to figure out a good name for yours. Op-Fortunate? Combining Op-Force and Fortunate. Since yours has that history and all the character you love as well as a safe lockup.
I fired an automatic version of that gun overseas. Our contract 3rd country nationals that pulled guard duties had them. It was fun to shoot. After about the 3rd round on giggle switch, I was over the 25M target. That brings back memories.
This is the comment where I tell you I bought one of these brand new in 2010 from Century for $500.
yeah anyone who pays 600 for this must be... special....
you overpaid
You bloody Mericans STOP whinging try having sweet fuck all or a AK that runs & will keep on running.Just some cunt from the colonies my 2cents rah fkn rah.
@@GodsChosen69 cringe pfp
I served with one of those in military 24y ago. you bought excellent weapon
Here, in Russia it's a price for a normal Saiga (civilian AK) from the Kalashnikov factory. On the other hand, AR rifles here are overpriced as hell, so they're considered elite product for the rich, because there are almost no supply of foreign ones, and those ones that are manufactured locally are scarce.
Our wonderful government banned russian imports. Izhmash is expensive here, zentico stuff too. Tula 7.62x39 is $0.60 per round or more, have seen as high as $0.80. Which is crazy because ten years ago it was $0.15 per round or less. A zastava m70 like mine is $1100.
On the flip side, you can buy an entry level AR here for $700. They used to be cheaper but we are coming up on an election for president and gun prices go nuts for a while.
@midship_nc
My dad said back in the day just after the ussr fell it was cheaper to buy 7.62x39 than .22. he lived in nowhere Nebraska
@@midship_ncI used to buy and shoot aks because they were cheaper. Now ARs and ammo is cheaper 🤷♂️
@@midship_nc you should blame Russia for thay
We can't get Russian steel ammo anymore other than what is in warehouses which are drying up fast. I stocked up on a lot of Wolf and Barnaul, but I'm always looking for more. Minimum Russian 7.62x39 is 50 cents per round which is crazy. Just prior to the ammo band you could get it for like 35 cents per round. I didn't get into shooting until 2020, but I know the prices were much better prior to that. I'd like to get a 5.45x39, but the ammo is just to scare and too expensive.
11:41 the second paddle is for using the safety when the underfolder stock is folded😃 the new Yugo underfolders come with them as well😁
Ahhhhhh
I live 20 minutes from AIMS. They are a really good group of guys. Great customer service
I miss SOG
They were built by DCI Dan Coonan a handful were built by two rivers. Klay looks like you have a nice shooter
Imagine having one of these M70AB2 kits from the '90's still in cosmoline, with matching numbers on all the parts. Wouldn't that be nice.
I shake my head every time I think about the gun shows back in the 1990s, and how I walked right by $200 AKs thinking I could find a better deal on something else.
@@rudyschwab7709I'm right there with you. And $80 mosins and M44's.
or just a built one for 500ish about ten years ago
Sometime in the early 2000's I bought 5 original finish, excellent bores Soviet M44s for 250.00 all 5.
Former Yugoslavia' s official gun,used for 30 years,one of the best AK clones..Worked owesom.
No one remember that gun ever stop work..
😂 your ambidextrous firearms handling is a testament to your long-term dedication... Thanks for everything 🗽
I replaced the barrel/front site on mine. Had a qualified gun smith do it (I live in AZ and my gunsmith was mentored by Jim). Later, I had to replace the trigger as the spring broke and shot up into the bolt, jamming the gun.
Picked up an M70AB2 kit. Beautiful AK, love it.
I had a similar problem with Aim. I bought a LEO p226 trade from them and it arrived in very rough shape, someone had taken an angry beaver to the sig rail to attempt to turn the rail into picrail and the tool walked straight up the side of the slide, leaving huge gouges and an unusable rail.
I told aim I wasn't happy with the purchase and they refunded me everything except for the $20 transfer fee and $5 background, which wasn't on them anyway. I wish they would have offered to just send me a replacement or different model, but it is what it is. I personally don't think they should be shipping out *ANY* guns that have had incompetent users take a Dremel to them, but to each their own.
ah yes, the true talent of US mil armorers when they dont have a step guide shows.
😆😆😆
These were never property of the US military. That was a short-lived sales gimmick. These are from some random contractor.
@@donwyoming1936For real lol
Early Ukraine I remember seeing Yugoslav aks used for training troops expected to use 74s they were firing yugo brass on stripper clips they were pulling them off loose and loading mags I also remember blank devices but this was all being done somewhere in Europe they were semis from American market so this is a known thing I don’t know about these but a kit is selling for the asking price so I doubt this is a gimmick doesn’t make economic sense to jack up semis with barrels. The import laws doesn’t allow barrels. So no I’d bet 5k their not a gimmick
@@donwyoming1936 this may be true. However the US military does possess a crap ton of foreign weapons for familiarization training. We once did a whole firing line of every small arm you can imagine for “fam-fire”. Or used for Op-For role playing.
I lived through the AK renaissance when you could get new-production imports for $600-700, and ammo was still $20c/rd. Its crazy to see dremeled-out surplus rifles selling for $600, but yours honestly looks like a really nicely built rifle. I'd say you got a killer deal given the current market.
All US taxpayer funded military surplus should be offered FREE OF CHARGE TO US TAXPAYERS, AFTER ALL WE ALREADY PAID FOR THEM..
Actually most taxpayers get a refund each year.
You would not be able to get them then
new flash, the government sells them to companies to get that tax money back so we're good.
I got a norinco milled uf and the action and trigger are just buttery smooth
Zastava needs to release their picatinny handguard, railed top cover, and left side safety for the US public to buy.
They have that
@@Pajserbrigada only on their sniper rifle can you get that handguard in the US. You have to go with another company for a pic rail dust cover.
Texas weapon systems?
@@joenino3 similar but not the same.
@@tengu190 I got one from them, it works 🤷🏿♀️
I bought one of those new hare back in 2012 or so DCI m70 ab 2…it’s been a tank and I’ve never had a problem..these are from the same batch …just a kitchen more beat I tried getting another one but they sold out within a half hour…crazy
I have one o bought around 8 or 9 years ago. It's a beast. Good riveting
I live in MA. So I’m obsessed with AKs. Because I can get good quality pre ban mags for mine. Unlike an AR. Where prebans are spotty at best.
Why are you willingly complying?
Living in MA is gay.
@@Teamskt-qf3ng Massachusetts has a magazine capacity ban sooo that's why he's running those magazines. He can't get new ones that aren't capped in Massachusetts.
I get it gun laws are unconstitutional as hell but he's forced to unless he goes across state lines and buys there.
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVEN just go across state lines then. stop complying. If I had an AR 15, it would have a coat hanger in it already 😂 I’m just an AK guy
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVENhow is that even a 'go across state line' loophole? I just find that odd that they don't want high capacity magazines, but it's fine if you bought them physically from a different state and drove back home that way 😂
There were WASR-10s that were done the same way a while back (owned one) same welded on blank firing adapter.
Good on the corporate side of the g community for stepping up and giving people their money back
I love mine. Mine is from over a decade ago. I recently repainted my night sights. Mine has matching parts. It's a beautiful gun. The two paddles on your safety is a feature of the Yugo Aks to manipulate it with the stock folded. I got everything but a rifle grenade for it. I got the magazines, pouches, surplus wood handguards, I got the rifle grenade muzzle device and I have the bayonet. I love it. I've shot it a lot from targets out to 500 meters to just mag dumping trash. I tought myself how to bumpfire on it.
Thanks, Enjoyed, I have had several M70ab2s over the past years, Even a Milled one. If you have a loaded mag and a live round in the chamber ,With safety On,You can cycle the Live round out, Without picking up a round from the mag, Only Yugoz. FYI.
Did not know that! I took mine to the range and dropped the bolt with the safety on. Pulled the trigger and got a click no bang. Flipped the safety off and cycled the bolt and it chambered a round fine. That explains it, it’s a feature not a flaw! Lol. I thought I did something wrong.
i was like "no way" then did it with mine just now in the living room. good to know
Yep probably used at fort Irwin for NTC OPFOR training.
Great find Klay
Kudos
Awesome video
Thanks for educating us all
I would take a chance on this if I could find one. I love the M70s.
OPFOR in California means Ft. Irwin NTC.
I have one of the Century Arms M70ab2 I got like 10 years ago and it's a skookum choocher. One of the best AKs of all time for sure! Also I hope those handguards you got are yugo or they wont fit. Yugos are almost an inch longer than other ak handguards. That goes for the gas tube too.
If it seats, it yeets!
Love it, I'd definitely go surplus wood too
Happy you got a good one. Damn they went fast. Sad for all those that got a bum one. Good on these companies for making it right.
One question that popped into my head was that the US MIC is well known for training certain 'foreign' forces that use such a weapon on our soil, and even run warehouses within your state that house tons of such weapons for distribution around the world for CIA-backed 'operations' by certain 'allies' of the ISIS kind.
But that's a really sweet gun for the price. You did real well on the 'what am I getting lottery' as compared to other buyers. Especially with the head spacing.
I got a Romarms AK a few weeks ago for $350 out the door, and it looked like absolute hell, but I was so excited to own an AK that I, despite my better judgement, got together with my buddy who came back to visit and we shot at some mud from sunset to evening. This was incredibly dumb, but it worked flawlessly and it cleaned up well. I'm gonna remember that day.
You need to get a rifle grenade spigot for it they are $30 give or take and you can get surplus m31 training grenades (JNA used 22mm grenades) for theses as well along with some blank 7.62 and you will have a very fun rifle.
I know I definitely need one
Apex has the spigots for $15. Got one already.
Expecting a pristine AK, specifically a contract AK, for under $600 is just ludicrous. Hard to get a parts kit under $600 these days.
True. I was looking to buy a parts kit to build but cheap ones are $530+ and you still need a barrel and receiver. You’re easily pushing $900+ to build one out.
I bought one from Aim Surplus. Rack#149. Filthy mess when it arrived but I was expecting that based on Aim’s description so no complaint there. Chamber was only lightly polished, feed ramp was untouched. Passed headspace check after cleaning so I took it to the range yesterday. Had the trigger pin walk out, wire retainer was not seated properly. Never had an AK before so I didn’t know to check that. Used Norma brass case from Academy (range doesn’t allow anything magnetic). Shot a 1 1/2” group at only 25 yards so that’s like 4.5 moa? Not keen on that but it could be me, I haven’t shot irons in years. Forgot to pack the sight tool so I’ll need to make a second trip to adjust the windage and get some more practice with it, elevation was spot on with the rear sight at 200@25 yards using a 6 o’clock hold. Great price, happy to have it.
Apex in Colorado has the grenade spigots in stock so I grabbed one of those, have you found anyone that has the practice grenades for sale?
Axis pin retainer plate is a must. They cost nothing, I think Khyber throws in a free one with every order.
@@jeremysparks8348 Good to know! Thank you. My first AK so I was unaware that the shepherd’s hook can be an issue.
I was first an sks guy, i bought my first AK after briefly owning a Tavor bullpup when it first came out. I was never interested in an AR. I owned multiple AKs and even built them. Well if you don't believe TH-cam has any power to sway people in voting or purchases, two video warriors made a video showing how reliable an AK was Vs an AR in mud, never mind i was perfectly happy and proficient with the AK platform, several years latter I sold all my AKs for cheap pre mass panic virus 19, and got into a platform i didn't care for. This guy literally sold all these used guns. If I could go back in time, id had just deleted TH-cam. And for awhile, years i stopped watching it. Now i don't buy guns anymore. I have too many as it is and this guy sold all those used guns. By the way underfolders where my favorite. Especially with paracord wrapped on the sides.
Great video! Being excited about 599 is crazy to me. We bought 2 for that price in 2004 I think. I remember trying to get all my friends to go in on cases of the parts kits, I think it was $70 per parts kit if you bought 10 or more. You could also get a crate of 10 SKS’s w/accessories, for around $700. I knew in my gut the prices would go nuts. I still want one with trench art and 90210 stickers lol
Yeah man. The best of times (price wise) are behind us.
Nothing really changed. In 2004 I made 17 bucks an hour. Today it's 38. Value of the goods didn't change, only the numbers did.
My Wasr 10 when I was 18 I bought it for 349 out the door brand new , 2 mags, a sling, oil can, a complete bayonet, and a cetme bayonet came in the box with it . Lone wolf Guns Az
The charging handle is shaved that way to facilitate a forward thrust 'blocking' wound. You chest check someone w/that weapon, you're effectivley utilizing the charging handle as a chisel/knife, best utilzied into a combatant's exposed sternum or forehead. Instructor tool.
This was at NTC, Fort Irwin. I've seen these before on a training rotation on some refresher courses my unit needed.
A lot of AKs came into the country from all over the world, and they were all in various states of quality. I can tell you that a Dremel feed ramp repair was not uncommon. After a serious chamber and bore cleaning, you should be good to go. Especially since it has passed it's headspace check.
All you need now is a surplus grenade spigot and some M68 blanks. ... and that dummy grenade.
Indeed!
Be wery carefull when firing rifle granades. Recoil and pull up rotation can be wery big and whit heawy results.
If not holding rifle correct it can result in geting hit on the head whit tip of the rifle granade sight.
We had injuries, bad ones. It requiers strong man grip.
Read user manual first
@@KLAYCO47 Pfft.... just throw caution to the wind, have fun, go nuts. Just a firearm, what's the worst that could happen.
@@411DL@KLACO47 Bonus points if you video it while wearing a SAFETY THIRD Tshirt!
These really remind me of the SOC contractor WASR AKs and semi-auto RPKs (Century AES-10B) that were floating around 10 years ago. They were supposedly used by Ugandan military contractors guarding American or whatever bases back during the 2nd Iraq war heyday... I owned and later sold a WASR and AES-10B supposedly used back then - they had the middle east moon dust all over - under the handguards, etc.
They'll probably sell the returned ones as parts kits. 😂😂 Replacing the handguards with surplus wood is one of the best things you can for it, the handguards are horrendous since they aren't insulated and get hot fast.
I bought a new Century Arms VSKA, and I have had good luck with it so far.
That weapons genetics dude seems like good people
The steel slab mags are a vibe and a half.
Indeed
I live right down the road from Aim Surplus all those guys there are great people.
Yeah they used these at a camp in Mississippi too...they sent us regular army guys out there from polk to camp shelby to run a sort of box rotation for the guard guys out there. Used these exaxt same rifles with a pinned and welded, or maybe just welded BFA. Much love brother keep the content coming
*edit the contracts at that site that ran their sort of arms room did keep them in good condition and made sure we had the tools to keep them well maintained and that they wouldn't accept a turn in if they weren't....
@combatarmschannel can speak to this too, he was on the same rotation and has a really popular video of us assaulting bluefor from the treeline 😂
When I was at Ft Irwin we had wasr 10s for our aks before they got pulled from the line. I never saw a Yugo ak when I was there.
They sold lightning speed quick
I made a lot of these guns for usmc out of ak 74s. Those are pretty rough but i would imagine they were modified for propane/oxygen simulators. Basically you have a backpack and sound like a real ak firing with actual blowback ext.
The M70AB2 is my favorite weapon.
I bought one close to 10 years ago that im not sure on the barrel mfg. Some people say green mountain made barrels and assembled for CAI. I had to peen the nut that holds the dust cover button because it fell out, and the taper pin that holds the nut for the underfolder fell out as well. Some quick fixes and it's been solid for 4kish rounds. Date on mine is 1983.
I bet even though some of these guns are fubar the value will only rise. PROBABLY never before have U.S. used AKs been surplus. Cool stuff.
This makes me feel great about the $600 like-new romy draco I just bought. I wish I would have gotten into the AK market when it made sense instead of being in 1st grade, so now I'm trying to get into the game before the prices go stratospheric.
Thanks for the video, mine looks very much like yours. I got one from Aim Surplus as well and did a video on it. Mine looks pretty good, the grenade sight is siezed, it'll definitely require some work. I decided to keep mine. I got mine for the same reason as you did. It headspaced okay, but I need to do a very thorough cleaning. Yours seems a little more worn than mine externally anyway. Mine looks about the same internally.
Oh yeah man I definitely saw your video, it's a good-looking gun.
@KLAYCO47 thanks, I appreciate that, I was able to get the grenade sight un-seized and got the barrel cleaned out, it cleaned up much better than I was expecting. On a side note I did notice mine was missing the underfolder retaining pin...probably why it was so loose.
Damm you scored on that one !! Looks awesome !!
All the reddit "experts" were clowning on these, but will change their tune now that Klay dropped a video lol
Well to be fair some of that was justified. But the people that got bad ones got full refunds the people that were lucky enough to get good ones got something pretty special for an extremely low price in my opinion. I don't think there's been much to be excited about this year. This is kind of exciting to me
@@KLAYCO47 of course, but your ability to sway the ak hivemind is not to be understated.
What did you expect from redditors? Bunch of 🤡s
I really wanted one of these
On Serbian market Zastava ZPAP 5,56 automat costs around 1.150 euros , 1.300 $.
I have one of the old DCI builds for century and it's a nice
Back in early 2000's I bought my new! m70 underfolder for less money then what these are going for, and i'm glad i bought it!!!!
its 20 years later with hyper inflation. NO WAY you got it cheaper!!!!
I have the ab2t without bulged trunions can’t find much information on it works great
where'd you get the M70? Send link
TH-cam doesn't like that unfortunately
god am i glad the ab2 i bought years ago wasnt us mil surplus. those things look rough lol. i got the nice all matching numbers and wood furniture.
Cracking video, look forward to the shooting test 🤘
I'm so jelly of this surplus win 🏆 such a badass acquisition 😎👌
They only reason I can think of that the feed ramps and chamber would be dremeled like that would be that crimped blanks wouldn't feed. Pretty crazy though.
Serbian version of ak47, really durable, precise and reliable piece. Sounds awesome as well
zastava is croatian iirc
I had one that you would've thought had a tight headspace but the gas tube star indents were out of spec and was pinching the bolt carrier upon closing
I must say, AIM Surplus has been very good. I've been buying LEO trade-ins from them for years. If it doesn't work, just talk to them. They'll fix the issue
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Great video man! 👏
I think in this case the buying public didnt know what they were expecting. Honestly, if you get one of the dinged up ones, treat it like a build. Go to a gunsmith, get a new barrel and anything else that you need and have it rebuilt. Probably still pretty cheap.
I paid $499 back in the day for Waffen Werks AK-74. One of rivets is wallered out on the receiver. Looks like the receiver wasnt properly heat treated. I need to send it off and have it fixed.
I wonder if the dremmel work was done to get the shorter blank cartridges to hit chamber?
Had a couple different variants of the military configuration M70 about a decade ago. I felt they were kinda clunky. Had to contact a guy in Serbia to get a dummy grenade which was cool.
Had one Years ago but hated that metal stock didn’t shoot it much but had zero issues with it
I want one but gonna have to wait a couple months till I can afford one. Hopefully they will still be around by then
I got one of those M70AB2 from Riflegear for 900ish in 2013, it was in good condition with no scratches. The front sight post was canted, bugged me so much I sold it a year later for 900. Even got the LRBHO mags but none of the 5 worked. Got me a DDI Bulgarian bakelite underfolder that was 700 to 800ish, replaced bakelite with russian laminated, looked just like a type 3.
The receiver is 1.5mm thick making it heavy, rear sights should have tritium.
I guess the gunsmiths or whomever who went nuts with the dremel or other tools, might've been correcting out of spec guns with the addition of getting them to fire blanks. The blanks might be out of spec also leading them to get wild with the mods, in addition to being under-trained or apprentices. Just a thought.
I'm glad you can afford to gamble so many dont have to.
Guys laugh at the fit n' finish now, but good heavents the backstory for these has the making of a strong collectible in the years to come. Rack numbers always add value, so even if this thing is janky and a little crusted over, I doubt you'll lose anything on it in the long run.
Gives me strong vibes that we'll be kicking ourselves for not buying three in about 20 years
I have two coworkers already kicking themselves after seeing mine. Kinda wishing I would have bought more than one now.
Man, wasnt paying attention when these drops. Would have been a fun pick up.
Aim surplus has been my honey hole 🕳️ guess the cats out of the bag
I was SOOO close to buying one of these. In the end, i decided it wouldn't be a good first AK, so i passed. It was in my cart along with payment info for a day though. lol