THE FIRST ONES: Warcraft Lore Has Changed For Good...
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Shadowlands has completely changed World of Warcraft lore. Long ago, in the days of Vanilla, we thought of the Titans as the ultimate power in the universe. That is far from the truth. Now, we know there was another group: The First Ones. They created the structure of the Shadowlands as we know it, and even though it's early days, the hints and teases are stacking up! This truly is a new era of World of Warcraft lore.
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made lose the scarf, doesn't suit you at all but great video xD
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Please make a video about how void and the void lords is the basis for the next wow expansion
We all know they're gonna be the second ones in the next expansion
hehe ha he ho
Plot twist: we all wake up and realize we’re standing in Silithus and C’Thun was feeding our minds with visions of what will happen
pulling a Bobby Ewing on us? lol
We wake up to someone hitting us with a Foreman's Blackjack. We're in the Valley of Trials, dreaming of being a hero. Something need doing?
@@TheSyncos work work
@@TheSyncos that would be a fitting final cinematic to end WoW
My mind would be blown if this happened
the whole warcraft lore is just the "there is always a bigger fish"-scene from the phantom menace.
And it has worked very well for them for decades lol
@@ugladden Eh. Their writing team gets made fun of for a reason. Personally, me and a few of my friends have all stopped playing. The game just isn't interesting. It's a constant repeating pattern, and repetition gets old.
@@ugladden It didn't really. They only now started pulling stuff out of their ass, everything so far has had years if not decades of build up.
@@Chopstorm. what do u play?
@@Chopstorm. you just figured it out? but this game depends on new blood not oldtimers
After Sixteen years of exploring titan facilities, meeting their creations, and eventually, the titans themselves Blizzard finally decided that it was time to introduce Titans(squared) to the lore.
Could someone translate that into super saiyan levels for me?
Titans cubed hype!
Yea...its kinda stupid
@@CosmicCleric This is to go even further beyond!!
Scarfs really come in handy for when Bellular needs to hide all of his hickeys.
Omg I just said that . It must be true
lol ewww
lol That or he just got off his shift at a indy hipster coffee shop. lol. Love his stuff but the look totally gives that "I knew Warcraft before it was mainstream.: look.
he probably wears it as a mask in public
He has a hella gangster neck tattoo
Can't we just go back to when the Dark Portal and the Outlands were the craziest things we had seen? All of these uber powerful characters being brought in and revealed makes the game lose its mysterious wonder imo.
Sure BC servers will be here soon I am sure
I miss how it was all magic, swords and axes now we got fuckin spaceships and shit
Nostalgia, doesn't make the original story any better or well crafted. The sense of wonder came from the game being newer and the internet not what it is today. Rose tinted glasses.
@@stillnotchill2560 I wouldn't say it was better but the sense of scale lore-wise was imo. The power-creep in the game is exponential amongst its antagonists.
@@RobChau90 I mean we had spaceships back in bc aka exodar tempest keep etc🤔
The problem I feel is that you can't walk back the profoundness of this whole story. Now, even another lich king expansion would feel small.
FRESH LORE. LETS GOOOOOOOOOO.
Chill man
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Bell are you under the weather? Hope your not getting sick.
Yeee. Glad you mentioned Tolkien. It is what I had come to the conclusion with Valar (Melkor) and Maiar (Sauron, Gandalf) being like 1st ones and titans/death pantheon. Only the latter tend to end up on middle earth.
"GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLL"
-Spanish speaking football announcer
Tldr, writers desperately attempt to write themselves out of the 100th corner they wrote themselves into for a game that should have story wise ended years ago.
Not even close to correct
Pretty sure they’re farting out what comes next instead of actually putting thought into it
trying that up-front ad-read to shake things up: at least it keeps the content unsullied and pure from thereonwards
Bmm
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Bellular wearing a scarf, hickey confirmed?
Can we get a hickey lore video?
Hobbits get hikeys?
why would he even hide it lmao
Final WoW Twist:
It was just a dream.
an emerald one?
it is in fact all part of Azathoth's dream
Like tears in Titan rain.
As someone mentioned in another post we are still stuck in a vision of C’Thun and willwake up in Silithius.
To me that means after all of our characters wake up wake up they (Blizz) can ret-coin everything and release world of warcraft 2. =P
"Barely understandable to us" bet they still look like humans
I think they should look like these so-called biblically accurate angels. Rings with eyes and a core or completely shapeless beings. Naaru have a pretty decent design, for example. Better yet, absolutely no voice acting. If they must be in-game, make them communicate with visions.
@@smorevids Like the light/rock monsters in the Noah movie, but theyre so big they take up the entire skybox.
@@smorevids The Naaru are the "Biblically accurate Angels" of WoW.
thanks ridley scott
@@preds43 to bad "The Light" isnt a divine force and is just space radiation
I think this is an interesting but poor direction. Wow has been a cycle of "always a bigger threat" since beta. I think it would better if there would be a few cycles thrown in there of "a different enemy" vs a bigger one.
Legion was a bigger threat than N'zoth
When its always a bigger fish and we always win....might as well just be a different fish. Its become very repetitive and boring.
Well you don't go from killing a god too killing a squirrel, that's why BfA felt rather odd. Like we just stopped the biggest threat we are aware of now I'm riding horses and raising dinos. We go from toppling a world ending dragon, too manifest distinying Pandaria and fighting orcs.
@@justin1594 that's my point. They made the enemies we fight too big. The only thing you can do after defeating the big dragon is to go after the bigger dragon theme trapped us in a cycle that leads up to silly story telling that has some basic mortal characters ending threats that have existed for millenia.
@@cagthetism so true, i dont feel my character connected to any part of the lore anymore. like, how could any of those mighty ass ubergods care about 20 puny mortals running at them? they snap their fingers and send you straight to oribos a a soul
Remember when the setting was just Orcs vs Humans? I think they lost their grasp on what good story telling is so they tried to substitute with scale to give the illusion of importance but they are literally at the end of the rope.
tbh they never went as in depth as they could with their own story WoW started halfway through the lore.. imagine playing an xpac and the final raid was war of the ancients, i mean we started after the third war so yea..
To be fair, people were wanting burning legion expac for years, and liked calling any expac that wasn't a super world ending big bad a 'filler expansion'.
It's going through the same process that DC and Marvel comics did. I for one don't mind this trend.
Bell slowly becoming your crazy World Literature professor
"The lore has changed for good...until the next expansion."
I don't know it's just me who feels this way but I miss just being An adventurer I would love wow with its modern systems but to go back to a simpler time where we didn't have to fight cosmic deities every single time regular Bad guys, Horde versus alliance you know just a cool adventure in making our own stories.
Then WoW classic is the game for you, friend
It's been sixteen years and however many expansions. You don't get to slay gods and defeat armies(both of which have been happening since Vanilla) and stay a small town adventurer trying to earn some coin.
@@Nadalag I mean it's a fun Nostalgia trip but its old content with dated systems. something new but With a more grounded and down-to-earth story Is what I mean
@@Shredow2 I understand it's not really feasible to go back To such a thing. It's just how I feel you know?
well those days are done and gone, especially when the fans were wanting recognition for their deeds, so no longer are we unknown adventurers, and the game hasnt been about purely the war between the Alliance and the Horde since WCII, the universe is more vast than these two factions, that's just a bit of reality that has made it into the game.
Remember when Archimonde was a nearly unbeatable threat to Azeroth n WC3?
The Lore is an absolute joke for cash reasons and xpansions.
was just saying the problem is we skipped literally half the lore just in vanilla i mean we started after the 3rd war
I appreciate the reference to Tolkein and Illuvatar. I've always loved that version of a creation story.
I used to be big on WoW lore. Now i cant even be bothered to follow any of this. Dragons and old Gods were just....simpler.
Same
I really like it, but I hate that mechanically, we are mere glorified NPC's fighting against Cosmos. Mytho is good, random Larry turning into Kratos on steroids, not so much :D
I love watching the wardrobe upgrade as Michael's channel keeps growing! Great style.
Hello everyone!
It's been milling around ion my head for a while and I need to put it out there, for others to look at it.
Over several expansions we have seen the Legion use souls to power their tech.
The Dark Portal, opened using the souls of thousands, literally.
Gul'dan was sucking souls from people around him and from nature to power his magic.
Old Gods were supposed to consume the soul of Azeroth, however, there's no actual evidence of them using souls as batteries.
The Legion has actual soul forges, mysterious engines that use souls like coal, producing power of some kind to be used by mysterious tech.
In fact, these Legion soul forges are maybe a cruder version of the engine of death here in Shadowlands. It sure sound rather similar.
To me, Oribos looks a lot like a selection device, like a dam on a river. You see, it selects souls as they follow their natural flow, sending some to each realm of the Shadowlands, and the ones deemed not useful get dumped into the maw, but for what purpose?
We see in Torghast that souls are used as raw materials for everything. Weapons, armor, you name it.
We see in Maldraxxus souls being used to inhabit constructs of flesh and bone to be used as soldiers, seen that one with the scourge before, but not in this great detail. Also, thinking that's how Sylvanas got recruited. She voided a living paladin's body of the soul and inhabited it with the soul of Nathanos.
We see souls being reborn in Ardenweald, so that's how souls go back to the realms of the living, sort of a feed back loop.
Bastion and Revendreth so far make little sense to me.
Bastion is supposed to ferry souls, therefore they don't have a feedback loop. However, that makes it that there should be a lot of Kyrion doing nothing in Bastion, or there should be a way to somehow deplete their population as well, that we haven't seen so far. Well except from them turning black and joining the maw.
Revendreth is even more nonsensical. Here's a whole realm full of really high castles, where souls get purged of certain "bad" traits, sort of a purgatory, before being accepted into the ranks of the venthyr, if they choose so, or go somewhere else? Well the machine is broken so maybe that's why we haven't seen it.
However, they're the only ones that seem to have any kind of economy. Also, quite funny how all venthys seem so prideful while put in charge of purging souls of mostly pride before accepting them into their ranks.
But all this is just a selector mechanism, sorting souls for some unclear purpose. It seems the power production of this engine is the Maw. That's where the fuel ends up and is being used. You can see this by the shape of the Eternal city itself. souls flowing from the top, from life, trough the city like a funnel, like a car's distributor, and into the maw straight down.
Where are the souls coming from? How are they being produced? What is all this powering? Where should all that this engine produces be going, and why?
We know the Maw is producing a huge army for the Jailer, but that's not it's intended purpose for sure.
SO, what do you guys think?
Activision should not be allowed to create any future WoW content or "lore", it's just so dead and sad at this point
Aren't we just always amazing. How awesome that gods can't stand before our Shield Bashs and Lightning Bolts.
In my humble opinion. I think the lore has gone way out of control. I think the burning legion and Old gods were good enough ''end bosses''
I agree. If only we had gotten an old god expansion.
I haven't gotten to the burning legion and Old Gods yet, but I think I agree. There is still so much underdeveloped lore, just on Azeroth itself. Hell, where is the rebuilding of Azeroth after fucking *Deathwing* for fuck's sake!? The original zones have been untouched, and more importantly, untold.
Finding that bronze dragon lady and being able to shift back to what is basically classic Blasted Lands blew my head! I would love more of that kind of techniques so I can experience it all.
@@NostraDavid2 That is not lore. That is a game mechanic and the idea of the devs somehow revamping zones every expansion (both with which I do agree greatly), but still not lore.
How many Demon invasions could we have had between it got rinse and repeat and a crazy storytelling? We can't expect Azeroth by itself defeating the armies of Legion alone for several expansions in a row, the Legion needs to learn from the mistake. Add the fact that they are a universe level threat, it becomes ridiculous unless you start adding bigger fishes to aid you. Old Gods should not be developed yet, and when they will, they should not be developed much. By their definition (both in Blizzard and Lovecraft) they are the great unknown, the incomprehensible, larger than anything (figuratively). They need to be a half-arsed battle were you just pacify them again for some time, else the entire idea was cheap to begin with.
So what are we left with? We cannot and should not be able to truly beat old Gods, and we cannot do an infinite repeat of defeating Legion invasions. We cannot defeat Legion once and for all either, as that would mean beating Sargeras, and it would be cheap and impossible in a restricted lore where he was the greater threat. We needed those titans to aid us, we needed the Argus story line to somehow give us a boss.. and we are already off the charts by your standards... but it doesn't stop here. What comes after?
The Black Empire? Yet another time travelling expansion?
Another Lich King menace?
KT comes back?
Another hero becomes twisted?
More faction wars?
and what are the motivations for those things even in the restricted lore? We can't have more Horde/Alliance wars without a bigger storyline. The Alliance is no longer led by an old guard of racist xenophobic cretins, and the Horde is no longer influenced by demon blood or bloodthirsty. Garrosh Hellscream was the biggest mistake of the game, and turning Sylvanas for the sake of having another baddie (even if the larger story with the Jailer was good, and the burning of Teldrassil and Lordearon were promising*1)
Add to that the fact that the Alliance players are just impossible, and we get a situation where if there are faction wars, we OUGHT to have the Horde the bad guys. Can't have the Alliance stain their faux-morality robes.
I personally don't like the bigger fishes in the sense that we, the glorified NPCs of the Azeroth, get to beat them.. but lore wise, I see no problem with them expanding the cosmos. I'd very much like to turn their eyes back on Vanilla regions for a turn, but would like to also continue this new lore, and to be honest, storywise, there is nothing less to do.. Warcraft restricted us to Old Gods, Sargeras, and Naga, and even if it makes sense to expand (ie. Titans, Elune, something beyond Titans, Loa, etc), there will be people who complain for the sake of complaining.
*1 in the sense that now the DEVS need to build a better city for each
@@raelur1651 wow your answer was quite dedicated i won't be able to write a worthy reply. Well for me the story writing got worse after cata. I think we could have had a naga exp, an argus exp where we beat Kil jaeden, a black empire exp, no time travel exp cuz I don't like time travels. And lastly a twisting nether exp. Every story needs to come to an end and by adding things later on that has hardly been established earlier, well that's like adding twigs to a fading fire.
I haven't played SL so I don't reaööy know what its about, but that Jailor dude looks so boooooooring and ugly. And when it comes to Titans or Elune, some things are just better of being a mystery. You don't need to know everything about the world of Azeroth that's what made its such a wonderful place to be in.
For future content: Maybe the whispers from "Blade of the fallen Prince" was mentioning the same as Sylvannas?
"Memory of Arthas whispers: You believe that you are in control, that your will is your own...
Memory of Arthas whispers: Yet you do as He commands.
Memory of Arthas whispers: You exist by His whim alone.
Memory of Arthas whispers: You imagine yourself to be free, but you will always be His instrument..."
Maybe we will hear about Shadowmourne in Shadowlands? Or the weapon Apocalypse as it was created by the Nathrezim.
They were really hinting at the Jailer since Legion, huh?
Anyone else getting a strong Citadel (Mass Effect) feeling about Oribos?
Kinda feels that way. Especially if the brokers open up more paths for us to explore.
Okay dude, that ad segue got a snort out of me
Grinding up my linus tech tips skill
Oh, you’ve dropped that legendary scarf, gratz!
WE GET IT BELLULAR U GOT A HICKEY GET OVER IT
Lmao
Bfa didnt finish the old god arc blizzard ruined the arc lol
They managed to ruin Nazjatar too.
The Old God arc doesn’t end until the Void Lords fall
@@Metathrom fuuuuuck Nazjatar was such a big letdown rip to all the lore and hype
@@preds43 trueee
@@preds43 I feel the voidlords are more or less ignored.
when it comes to lore and setting i prefer fighting murlocs and defias bandits over dragonballz powelevel demigods
well get over it, cause you cant be dealing with the small fish forever, this is a game not a boredom simulator.
@@UltimateGamerCC why does more realistic down to earth lore equate to boring gameplay? im no classic-andy, classic gameplay is boring AF, but i do prefer its more simple lore.
@@mortenjusk well it technically doesnt, but at the same time you're going to get bored of killing small fish when you already been doing it for years, Murlocs for example have been in almost every single expansion.
@@UltimateGamerCC Er, how about getting bored of world shattering events and taking on giant doom machines and gods? We've been doing that since vanilla. Massive swaths of the population get decimated every expansion, and we're supposed to keep taking it seriously? Give me a break lol. It's worse then Marvel.
@@Chopstorm. we've also been killing Boars and shit since Vanilla, is nobody tired of that? idk what you people expect, bunch of spoiled ass children up in here.
So hyped for your videos!
My dad works at Blizzard and he told me the answer already, it’s “42”.
I think it heads towards 1 of 2 possibilities. The short answer would be Elune, who has essentially been missing for a very long time, and is considered to be a Goddess in the Warcraft universe.. The other, less likely answer would be expanding the universe into their other franchises, so you would be dealing with both Elune, Anu(Diablo), Tathemet(Diablo), and the Xel'naga(Starcraft)
When you have a work zoom, but you need to hide a massive hickey. Reminds me of my wilder younger years!
Thank you so much for bringing up soft vs hard magic systems. I thought I was the only one thinking this. I hate how restrictive and closed off everything has become.
Imagine... what if the titan’s view of “re-origination” actually succeeded.
Wow could actually just... reset. Recreate the entire world, make different lore, have new characters and an entirely new start.
Would be a good chance to rebuild WoW with a completely updated game engine. Although I would be sad to lose 12 years of collecting.
This would be a good way to reintroduce the game world to players.
Rebuild on a Primal Azeroth; fight for superiority against the elements themselves.. etc. Would make an interesting expansion.
Also, the most logical time for an Engine update!
@@JABoyle3875 says the guy that sound exactly like a neckbeard. Lol
@@JABoyle3875 you forgot the "m'lady" champ
That just sounds like a new franchise, but with extra steps.
To me, WoW lore ended when Sargeras plunged a sword into the planet that would have not only thrown it off its axis, but completely changed its orbit around its native star. In my head cannon, everyone died when that sword went in, and this is all just the last second fever dream of our dying character.
Next expansion
WoW
The Tournament of Power
that's in Arena, bub. XD
Interesting point re: comparison to LotR mythology - “Melkor” was the name given by the Sindarian Elves - and it translates to “the Jailer”.
They have really f'ed up the lore in my opinion. They went for, to say it, vertical evolution of events and characters and look at the reasult. From kindgoms, champions, factions, dragons, magic to some absurd cosmic scenarios, omnipotent beings and even more omnipotent beings, that no longer make sense for the WoW universe. They have cornered themselves with that path of development and will corner themselves even more. There is no more room for development up. And it's not like they can go down now because they have set the expectations for ever more complex headway. I mean the average player toon is now an ant to ants, fighting ludicrous, impossible to beat beings, and yet somehow ends victorious, and the ways that happens are just so unrealistic, and so unsatisfying, so unnatural. You can see it in fanbase reactions. The game feels completely distant from what WoW used to represent as an idea. The lore is inconsistent, vague mishmash. It's weak.
Now what they should have done, in my opinion, is more of a horizontal development. That would have kept the game close to its theme, at the same time introducing new, unique, intriguing, endless content, new realistic characters, exciting figures of the caliber of Arthas, Illidan, Gul'dan etc. Characters people can associate with - one is a human paladin who bacame a dk, well I'm a human paladin, one is an orcish warlock and I'm a warlock, maybe my toon can become one of those great names. Look at the characters now...milking Sylvannas, a character that should have been long gone with a completely inconsistent evolution - good to evil, to good, to evil, emotional, to insensitive, to emotional. Jailer who's only exciting with how supposedly powerful he is, and has no charisma whatsoever. Well, I'll give him that, there is some mystery around him. Beings in Shadowlands that make no sense and are out of place. Anduin looks like the only decent character but he's so genlte, doesn't carry the epicness, doesn't spark excitement, yet. WoW enthusiasts don't like devoid of traits, pale characters. They want characters with strong presence. That's why people liked 'Wrath of the Lich King' from a lore standpoint. It made sense, it was realistic, it was associative, it was achievable. If they had gone with horizontal development we could have seen expansions carrying the spirit of WoW. Examples that come to my mind are 'Legacy of Broxigar', 'Hanging Gardens of Elune', 'Menace from the Depths', 'No Light for Paladins', 'The lost Tribe/Faction'. All can introduce exceptional characters. I'm sure many will come with even better ideas. I think MoP and WoD had some of that, or had the chance to make it happen, but pandas, all that time traveling thing, poor inconsistent character development, just ruined the story. That's how I see things, if other share same opinion or different one, feel free to comment.
I've been late to WoW (though played wc1, 2 and 3) and have played retail since 3 months before Shadowlands came out.
I dived into Vanilla this week and oh man: tiny beings like Wolves and Bears are and actual *threat* to my level 10 character! Amazing!
Meanwhile in Retail, people are kicking *titan* ass (Argus). For fuck sake, the Titans used to be these near omnipotent being that were far away, not these dudes whose ass we could beat...
Give me wolves, bears and orcs to fight over these cosmological powers.
What your trying to say reminds me of the lore in Dark Souls. Having mysterious lore is far more interesting than knowing everything. It gives you something to think about..
Love these lore vids, more pls!!! Great work guys!
There was no “fresh lore” here. You also didn’t mention anything xalatath said about the ancient wars
man i really like your theory based videos :) love the speculation!
I was going to suggest a Dyson Sphere/Warm and BOOM Bellular did exactly that at the end!
every time I hear "The Arbiter" I think of grinding out that damn champ in Raid: Shadow Legends lol
Very cool Bellular! Love your content!
Kil'Jaeden who originally made Lich King and the entirety of the scourge: ummm. dunno my clay toys can become such conspiracy theory like this, lmao
On top of what you said, every time Blizzard tried to overexplain things, it horribly backfired on them sooner or later because their storytelling lacks the continuity and coherence to keep everything in check. Actually, only a few storytellers have ever achieved something like that and Blizzard storytelling certainly isn't able to pull that off. Which doesn't mean that I don't like the stories, that WoW has in store - I actually do like them a lot. But they shouldn't reach for something that they aren't capable of - which they have proven time and time again.
You should put your heating on and take that silly scarf off indoors 😂
SWEET!!! A NEW VIDEO!!!!
I would love a game that combines the social mechanics of classic as well as the leveling (yes, easy leveling breaks immersion and the connection to the character) and the some of the newer cool mechanics that retail has brought. they have a chance to do this with classic - releasing the expasions but doing it differently and not making the mistakes they made over and over again.
that moment you are enjoying a story about a video game and then BAM, you learn about stuff like Kardashev scales XD
I always wonder what, if all , the writers actually think when they create concepts like this in the universe. We know that like always we won't really get any conclusions on such a deep stellar scale. But i wonder if the Jailer might be trying to stop death from existing at all, and that death as a concept was brought to life by some sentient creatures that found a way to redirect all the anime in souls of physically destroyed beings, that would normally be redirected to another life in the physical universe as a trade of for living of this lifeforce the souls get to spend the rest of their time in places that fit their life.
I wish they toned down the new even bigger enemy reveals and focused on smaller scale character driven stories
Anyone besides me notice the structures in the clouds behind Elysian hold? Looks like some expansion room to me. Further, when the Winter Queen awaken Ysera she says "this is of my sister".. So is Elune her sister or is she speaking of another?
Can't believe he stretched it for 18 minutes. That's some skills.
Was Thinking about the silmarillon prologue when you were speaking of creation in wow.. omg.. same same Melkor=Zovaal
I would love to have you read the entire WoW lore as a podcast.. Mainly because the lore is interesting, and your voice is awesome!
I wonder if Orebos was made to guide souls of those with the curse of flesh.
I'm bad at internet. Who is the spy is the midst of the Narru? It is mentioned in quest item book with assessments of all the different factions/clans/groups. Was that already revealed in cinematic?
My brother, new partner?
I feel like theres some audacious lovebites hiding under the man-mantle
Finaly something intersting :
Wooo new lore video!!!
Let’s fasten our belts. It’s gotta be a humpy bumpy ride!
Awesome video. Thank you!
Everyone complains about them making more powerful enemies as we go more into the lore but what other option do they have?
if they wanted too they could reuse the old zones and tell a much more grounded story on azeroth, not everything has to be huge.
@@lukeduwa They tried that with MoP, and BFA though. And guess how those stories ended...
@@lukeduwa all the more grounded expansion (Mists, WoD, and BfA) got shit all over by the players. If you ask me it's a bit odd to go from fighting a world ending dragon, a WoW Hades infused champion with an undead army, and the Legion too fighting petty wars and orcs. Which is probably what we will get after SL considering Tyranda becoming unhinged and someone like Turalyon in charge while we are gone.
Those guards in Oribos is actually humans btw, try to clip the camera inside their head armor :)
ya this makes me think of StarGate's The Ancients as the Frist Ones way to much
ah a man of culture lol .. I get that feel as well .. especially the alteran and ori lore in later seasons ...the lore progression does feel similar which is a good thing cause I like stargates lore progression
There like tha damn Dworven race in Skyrim
Always hear about them but can never see or meet one
Do you guys think the Blades of the fallen prince will have any place this expansion being the remaining pieces of the Frostmourn?
Are the brokers Etherials before their world was ripped apart? Like ones that were out in other parts of the universe like oribos while their world was ripped apart? Maybe because they recanted on a deal with the jailer?
Funny you mention Oribos as an engine. WoW killer this week talked about this thing in Revendreth that references crafdenium? Craftinium something. A realm of the Shadowlands where infernal machines are made by this crazy guy that rules it. I did some searches but couldn't find anything. If anyone else heard this or saw this in game hit me up.
Sounds intriguing! Sounds a little bit like Morrowind's Sotha Sil and Sheogorath!
That scarf will never make me NOT believe that Bel is camouflaging a hickey.
I’m going with a cool neck tattoo
Nice scarf, Bel! Better stats than the PVP necklace
What if the Shadowlands are a dam on the free flow of anima, and Oribos litterally its dynamo? Could the flow of souls *being forced* through the funnel of Oribos generate some kind of power?
How about this: What if the purpose is to keep all the powers in check. The engines and design are checks and balances so no one side can win. Maybe to protect those caught in the middle like us or maybe to grow us into them.
Bellular.... I just spent 2 hours throwing my brick head at a wall on H Sludgefist (cause movement is hard lol) and this video just made me want to log in lol.
loveeee weekend vids
Fun idea(?): We already know the concept of time doesn't apply to the Shadowlands. Maybe after we're done messing with the realm of death we're brought back into a time before Classic, before we knew how death works and before, you know, everything was galactically epic.
Wonder what you think of the Ascians from FFXIV now. They have a somewhat similar position to say, Titans, in the story.
Ascians had control over "this star" there are many countless worlds beyond untouched by them or the actual lore (midgardsormr explains) which is a nod to other ff titles / game servers
@ Yeah, the scale is different, but their position viewed separately from that has similarities. They were powerful keepers of order and creation managing the world until something happened, leaving them a distant unknown in the modern point of the setting.
Tolkien did all his work based in christianity. He was a faithful catholic.
Tolkien had to say that they were wholly Catholic inspired works to protect the publishing. He later went on to insist that it was not an allegory. Rather he sought to create a world of general good vs evil as to inspire generations from all faiths to believe in one thing. "That there is some good in this world, and its worth fighting for"
He was good friends with C. S. Lewis too. There are a lot of good values found in their books.
Yep. We have good ol' freewill vs predestination. Very religious philosophy. Btw, anyone get a feeling of The Blind Watchmaker, too?
@@sm7sombertears That's not true.
Christianity has a lot of cool mythology to draw from. Even the description of some angels is almost in the '5th dimension'.
Original sin, the mark of Cain, the genocide of an entire world by an angry god, gestalt demon minds in farm animals, deicide... there's lots of interesting concepts in the Abrahamic Literary Universe.
I think blizzard should show them helping us in final fight of the xpac, but only slightly be able to see them, like a big face in the sky and a flash of magic or something along those lines...make them look massive and mysterious. Then don't let us see them or interact with them.
Love that you speak directly to blizzard, cause they know you are right, and they are watching.
Such a shame that blizzard had to go out and make up new lore this way, all because they ruined the existing Titan lore by revealing everything. Imo players were made too powerful when they were able to kill an old God for good.. and by this blizzard de-fantasized the world and thereby also the worlds lore.
Had we only been able to push back, or re-imprison warcrafts big villains, then blizzard wouldn't have run out of villains,. And they wouldn't have had to retcon so much of their own lore/the lore chronicles books and make up new "bigger" villains constantly.
Do you think there will be an expansion about the voidlords?
not for a while, we have pushed the Void back quite a few times, they are recovering their forces, right now the Light is no doubt taking action next to seize dominance over the universe as it has many times before.
@@UltimateGamerCC We've only fought against the old gods, never the voidlords who created them. Maybe they'll find a way to get access to us in a different way. I just really want a whole expansion about the void rather than just a single patch.
@@ChinnuWoW well that time will come, but it's evident that our next battle will be against the light, such as Y'rel and her army of zealots who we last saw was forcing the light upon Draenor.
I miss Danger Dolan wow videos so bad dude... This remind me of him
I have noticed something and possibly missed something along the way,,, this fantasy land WoW is based on is Azeroth, but several times such as here at 9:36 the chart references Earth, several places through out the games dialogue I hear Earth being referenced, it's a small thing,,,,,, it bugs me.
It's earth as in soil, not Earth the planet.
or the earth elementals.
Also, there was comparisons to actually irl. as in our "real world " physics.
So, technically, he mentioned all version of earth I am aware of.
@@rgw7345 while I agree with the idea, the soil is called Earth because of the planet, if you were on Mars and the ground quaked, are you still going to call it an Earthquake? I'm not trying to cause a fuss, it was just an observation I had that bugs me.
Already waiting for the next expansion. I wonder what kind of lore they will establish until then
interesting how blizz a few months ago said the final chapter to a epic saga...does that mean the final chapter of WoW?
this expansion has merely begun, how are you waiting for the next expansion already?
@@jerryshadley8977 yea idk how much longer can they strech it
Final Boss Warcraft
Lord Sargeras😈😈😈
@@nobelmassinaarben2467 pfft not even close, Sargeras undoubtedly got whooped by Illidan Stormrage, he's literally old news.
damn ur so shameless with these sponsorship... is so hilarious :D
His videos and thumbnails are becoming more and more clickbaity too.
I’ve always enjoyed Warcraft, but it’s lore is so-so for me. It just feels so sporadic.
As someone really invested in StarCraft lore I just see the similitudes everywhere haha
How do i stop Silvana's and the lich?
Imagine wow finish after SL death take over etc, then wow 2 coming out and we are send in time to prevent it - to times of Warcraft 3 🤣
Its called WoW classic
@@Buildonsound wow classic is wow before all expansions lol it’s not Warcraft 3 , is post Warcraft three, and we don’t do something to prevent Jailor from winning lol or old gods we follow same footsteps and we did 16years ago...
No we need something much different for for our current technology and engines, and with classes that we wait but not getting them and some new combat styles and all
@@Gwyned but thats the point, we are send back in time... ( keep in mind that blizz will never remake warcraft 3) not after the other fiasco of reforged...
@@Buildonsound I didn’t said remake of w3 , did you ready what I said ? And we are not send in time by anyone stop saying it as nobody said “heroes you are sent in time to fix things” because u still kill same bosses and same problems and quests
Well, it'd be a fun idea. Murozond has, after all, said that he has witnessed the TRUE end time, and that the Hour of Twilight (void victory) is nothing compared to it.
Don't tell me its cold enough in there that he needs a scarf?
Lore says it's a hickey
So no mention of the Lovecraft connections everywhere in WOW then!
All of the Lovecraft shit mostly comes from the Void cosmic force anyway