Did you entirely miss the Broker quest in Maldraxxus, where we get an item for them from the Sepulcher of Knowledge? Containing the best military tactics in the entire cosmos?
There is a side quest called the Sepulcher of Knowledge in Maldraxxus where you help a broker locate the sepulcher. Its when you go to Spider’s watch and through an tunnel to the right. Broker in the dialogue sas: The Sepulcher of Knowledge stores the writings of the greatest tactical minds who have ever served Maldraxxus.
Also in Maldraxxus you help the brokers captured elite enemies to support the fighting in the middle arena. And Maldraxions get to support the brokers supplying them with goodies from around SL's with the patchwork event follower. Brokers also control the Black Auction House in Revendreth.
I don't think Xy'mox has been working with Denathrius. I think he is taking advantage of the siege on the castle to plunder some of the artifacts that were collected over the eons. He even mentions how the fighting has distracted the guards, and then talks about Denathrius' collection of powerful artifacts he has accumulated.
I also was thinking about what are brokers really planning. The line from Bwonsamdi after killing the broker boss in De Other Side really intrigued me. Great video.
A monologue you mean? They are clearly the same race. Basically what Ethereals become when they die. They have the same habits of collecting treasure and information, they clearly have some sort of portals. I mean, wrap the floating heads and armor in bandages, you have Ethereals.
Came here to look for if anyone said this, and found it. Yup, they've been branded as "procurer of items of interest" in addition to being traders for something. They're probably going to steal the heart from the Arbiter and sell it back to its original owner, the Jailer. They haven't infiltrated Oribos for nothing.
It's fine Blizzard will just release a new race that share the same character models, the same story background and same purpose and expand on it just as little as before! They're litterally just Shadowlands Branded Ethereals like new blizz is allergic to the idea of re-using the story and races of old blizz and expanding upon it, they have to simply write over the top of it with a sharpie.
I was thinking this and what if the void that destroyed their world caused a rift that allowed the void into the etherals shadow lands leading them to become the brokers and what lead to the void getting into bastion
The things that suggest to me that they aren't strictly Ethereals are two things: 1, the Ethereals originally had bodies and have only been missing them for 1,000 years. The Shadowlands and everything connected to it have been around far, far longer than that and the Brokers appear to have members that are far older than that. 2, Ethereal bodies have energy throughout themselves that needs to be bound together to create a form. The Brokers seem to have no such restriction. That said, I do think the Ethereals are almost certainly able to become Brokers upon death, but that the Brokers are from a plane that worships greed. There are a few goblins in the shadowlands, for instance, but my theory is that many of them become Brokers after death through the Arbiter's judgment system. Similarly, anyone from any race could become a Broker, just as members of almost every race have been seen in each plane of the shadowlands. So, most likely Ethereals do become brokers in most cases, but I think it has more to do with their overall greed than it does the similarities in their looks.
@@jameswayne2907 if that’s the case it’s still intriguing to see how they have all this information in Torghast and how long they’ve been meddling in there for
my theory is simple. the jailer once was a living being of azeroth. After a major event, they seperated his body and soul, the sepulcher is where his body is kept. What we deal in the maw is just a part of him, e. g his soul. Now he is looking to conquer what was once "his" (his original body)
For some strange reason I feel like that there is an Eternal One who forged the Brokers and could have the title of Cartel King or something like that. Maybe they were designed to be the Wildcard of the Shadowlands.
The Brokers are definitely strange, mysterious. I personally do not trust them, but it is interesting that one voice line shared by most of them is, "I hope our ventures will be profitable!", at least something like that. If they value knowledge, and not material possessions, then they might wish to profit off of the knowledge us mortals can bring them. But with everything each player character has seen, what if we accidentally give them knowledge of something we should have kept hidden? Also, going way off topic here, but I feel some concern towards Tal'Inara, "The Honored Voice". She claims to speak for the Arbiter, however, this powerful orchestrator of souls is unconscious. How can one speak for another who is not there, who can't respond or give commands? Also, Tal'Inara seems to have control over all the Attendants in Oribos, which could be a larger problem if she is not to be trusted. Oh, and these Attendants seem to have ranks, similar to how the Brokers have Cartels: Tal, the highest rank, Kah, second to Tal, then Roh, possibly for coordinating transportation. Of course we have Tal'Inara, then Kah'Delen and Kah'Sher, but then we have Roh'Avonavi, who is the flight master, and the Fatescribe, who I believe was Roh'Tahl, but he allowed us to experience the Shadowlands in two different ways, transporting us to a different timeline. So, an Attendant with the rank of Tal can speak with and for the Arbiter. One with the rank of Kah might take over for Tal if they are absent for some reason. And one with the rank of Roh helps to coordinate transportation and movement around the Shadowlands. With this in mind, I think Tal'Inara may vanish at some point, causing Kah'Delen or Kah'Sher to take over in her absence. Then, perhaps the flight master, Roh'Avonavi, gave Tal'Inara transportation to somewhere else in the realm of death. This is just my theory, based on my own personal distrust towards "The Honored Voice".
Total Tin-Foil-Hat moment, I think the Arbiter may be a broker-like being, (based on her non-corporeal form within her dress and mask, etc). It could be that the brokers used some kind of weapon to break her so they could escape and or make some kind of deal for power. They know we are trying to fix it/her, which is why they are hurrying to complete their plans. They want to stop us, which is why they went to the maw but Ve'Nari felt like we were a better lucrative plan and she betrayed them. That could be why they are looking for her as well, and trying to get us to give up her location. It would also explain why they are in every land we go to, they are gathering information from us, under the guise of offering us trinkets. Thoughts?
dunno, Jailer said himself "Death comes to the soul of your world!" Wouldn't that implicate he wants to kill either Azeroths soul or all souls of the planets? Could sepulcher mean body of Azeroth? We never seen actual body of azeroth and we know they do have bodies since we fought Argus.
So far all Titans we have seen were capable of manifesting a body around them by themselves, but still it could be something vital in awakening her, body or not. "Death comes..." basically just means he refers to himself as "Death" sometimes, Denathrius referred to him that way as well. Maybe he wants to kill Azeroth, maybe he wants to turn her, we cannot know yet
Pay attention to the words - the Gaoler doesn’t say ‘I am coming for Azeroth’s soul.’ If Azeroth is dying (which we know is still likely) he’s potentially aiming to be there, because he’s the psychpompos for world souls? Or for some other reason we have yet to discover, I draw your attention to the fact that he’s coming with a huge army!
@@clogs4956 ooh yeah watctch this 1:58 th-cam.com/video/zuBo7AJDyRQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SeriousGaming he does say "death comes for the soul of your world"
Call me crazy, but I seriously don't think the Jailer gives 2 sh*ts about the titan in Azeroth. I think he just wants a weapon to fight the other cosmic forces. Possibly using Azeroth the same way Argus was used by Sargeras but possibly not even that. Him gaining Azeroth is like "cool, sweet, free loot". He seems to just want a gateway to the physical realm Everyone else is fighting over that soul (fel, old gods, etc) whereas Zovaal has bigger fish to fry. Occupying the area that other beings want may be a benefit though
What if the Brokers ( of cartel Xy in particular ) helped to break the Arbiter. They dont care about the purpose, they dont care about siding with the "bad" and they have confirmed themselves that our arrival is beneficial to them and that it gives them an opportunity . And if they are kinda new to Oribos that would fit the timeline of Arbiter breaking at the end of legion.
So the Jailer tells Sylvannas that he has eyes everywhere in the cinematics. What if the brokers were agents of the Jailer and are everywhere to do his bidding and keep an eye on us? The attendants state at the beginning of the expansion that the brokers only recently started coming to Oribos.
>Tfw it's been 2 weeks that I've started ignored everything of The Maw the isn't acquiring souls for Covenant and I have never been happier. Ve'Nari whomst?
"No connection" >listed an entire array of direct connections just before We know that the void boyz are waging war with somebody unknown through the mage order hall quest lines. Possibly the brokers. Xy'mox mentions "The warp" which could be lazy writing meaning the void or the nether but possibly something new entirely.
If I was Blizz... I'd make them the Actual Bad Guys. Pulling the strings behind the scenes, ultimately manipulating the Jailer. Basically, make them Braniac / The Collector, their motivation being to catalog and own literally everything. And have Venari be, ultimately, the reluctant hero who betrays her own kind after seeing the damage their manipulation has done in the Maw.
One of the Sinstones in Revendreth refers to a sadistic mad architect who achieves redemption and is sent to an afterlife realm called "The Craftenium" where all master crafters supposedly are destined to reside. Not sure how the Brokers might fit in, to what would clearly be a mid-patch crafting hub if anything, but certainly that would be of great interest to them. Could be a very Mechagon-esque sandbox.
I can't believe you didn't even reference how the brokers and the arbiter have a similar machine like aesthetic...like soul bound to a mechanical body. To me they look absolutely related, but not of the same make. I've actually wondered if they're in Oribos cause they want the Arbiter. I mean, she's seen infinite lives and she can judge all of those lives to send to their respective afterlives. She like a super computer + an internet of data x1000!
The Brokers work for Ash Ketchum, their purpose is to catch every sort of creature in the universe. And the Sepulcher contains the Master Ball to catch Azeroth.
A gnome called "Oscar Zoroaster Phadrig Isaac Norman Henkle Emmannuel Ambroise Diggs" built them and is also the real Wizard of the Maw. The Jailer is his scary mirage to keep people away from his secret that hes just a little shit.
You forget to mention that kel'thuzard uses the Cartel Ba to bring him the domination dagger in order to bring the jailors plans into fruition in the necrolord campaign, they directly work with kel'thuzard and the jailor
What I really enjoy about this expansion is that the plot of the story is intriguing with a lot of depth. As I see it, the Brokers can became extremely important later in expansion with there knowledge and artifacts collected to give as the edge we need in defeating the Jailer. I do not think the legendries we have now will be the last one we get. More powerful and better might be access thru brokers at the late stages of our campaign.
Maybe in the same way noble paladins go to Bastion, great warriors go to Maldraxxus, druids close to nature go to Ardenweald, then players who focus on collecting (mounts, toys, transmogs, recipes etc) go to wherever the Brokers reside.
I'm rather surprised you didn't mention the Kyrian Campaign's quest where you infiltrate the tower in Maldraxas to steal the knowledge of the Primus in the form of the books of war. A quest fully carried out alongside a dubious broker who wanted to take literally ALL the books of importance for some ominous upcoming event.
I reckon the Sepulchre contains whatever is missing from the Jailer's chest. Getting it back is like Perfect Form Cell. I think the Brokers are looking for it either as part of an agreement that was already made for information from the Jailer, or as leverage to make a deal for information with the masters of the realms of Death, either the Jailer or the Eternal Ones.
Wild theory here... The brokers, for some strange reason, make me think of the Doctor Who episode titled "The Unquiet Dead". In this episode, aliens had the ability to travel through gas and then possess a dead body. Maybe, just maybe, these brokers are able to gain entrance into other realities through the process of resurection. When we die in-game, we go to a graveyard and then have to run back to our bodies as a ghost. What if, when we die, these brokers, in their gaseous state, hitch a ride with our ghost form while we have that connection to the Shadowlands, and upon resurrection, the gas is released into the atmosphere where they are able to possess some other being. Wild. Theory.
I’ve been intrigued by the way in which the writers are using careful words/syntax. I find myself very aware of ambiguity. From the start, I thought the Brokers were Ethereals and possibly Up To No Good. We’ll just have to wait and see. I still wonder if they had a hand in building the Arbiter (she has something of the Brokers about her as well as Bastion, whose inhabitants may prefer obedient machinery over independent life) and if her ‘heart’ is actually the Gaoler’s. Remember that just about everyone in the Shadowlands warns us not to trust what we hear or see. Right now, I’m hoping I can trust Ve’nari as long as she wants something from me and I can pay, given her name suggests she is venal.
I think the Brokers might be trying to take advantage of the Arbiter's incapacitation to hotwire Oribos and redirect the flow of souls to their own purposes.
Maybe the Brokers are the dead version of the Ethereals pre void shenanigans. A race of Death (like Maldraxxi, Venthir, etc.) that can no longer grow their numbers.
'even though there is no clear link there now..' I like that a lot. Some content creators would have tried to brute force the connection before the information is known. Great work avoiding that trap, really liked this vid.
Ok Am I the ONLY 1 aware that in Maldraxus there is a place called THE SEPULCHER, and that the chain quest there is lead by a Broker, and that is literally a depository of KnowledgeArmory/Arsenal??!!!?? Any comments on that fellas?
I suspect that the big macguffin of the Shadowlands expansion is whatever the Arbiter has in her chest and I also suspect that it was removed from the Jailers chest after his betrayal (the Heart of Zovaal?). Wouldnt be shocked if the Brokers were after the exact same thing.
Every expansion I go in with a complete desire to read every quest text and take in the story like a sponge. Within 30 quests that dies and I lean back into speed levelling and miss the story. I wish that wasnt the case :(
Just one tiny thing everyone missed. There is a quest in Maldraxxus in which they confirm the Lifelands. Or rather "Gardens of Life". It's a side quest where you have to find a sword for a skeleton and he casually mentions this realm.
Not sure if it's been referenced, but Xy'mox doesn't work with Denathrius. They state that the guards are away, and that it's a perfect time to pilfer the Venthyr lord's coffers. He's there on a heist.
I am halfway into the video and I can't help but wonder what would happen if the player character became an item of interest for the Brokers? Would we be able to resist them? I also wonder if they had any influence in shaping the materials that gave the goblin's their personality traits? Goblins are greedy, like to make deals, and generally get what they want no matter how impossible it is to obtain. The goblins also learned how to build machinery and even harness the holy light through sheer willpower alone because you can make money off of church donations. We have yet to see.
‘Learning from the masters of every reality’ definitely reminds me of the books in Revendreth - the ones that likely talk about Dreadlords infiltrating all of the cosmic forces. It’d be interesting to find more signs of both DLs and Brokers in upcoming storylines. If we’re gonna be exploring the many realms and the cosmos of the WoW universe, then it’d make sense to run into races the have infiltrated or travelled seemingly everywhere.
I noticed really quickly how similar the Arbiter and brokers look. I feel like the Arbiter is a broker, and I find it eerie that many of the brokers say "death, is the ultimate transaction". In a way the Arbiter's job was to sort and organize souls, some how perhaps buying and selling them? I can't help but think that maybe, this is the broken system that Sylvanas and the Jailer are intent on tearing down. Perhaps the Arbiter is a usurper and the Jailer was the rightful sorter of souls and wasn't quite such a douche before the Arbiter stole his heart, or better yet, fell in love with the Arbiter, gave her his heart, she said "nah, you bald and ugly" imprisoned him in the Maw. Now the Jailer is bitter and in prison and needs another heart, hence why he want's Azeroth so bad. Perhaps Azeroth likes ripped, douchey bald men because I keep thinking about Gul'dan's warning at the end of Nighthold; "In the end, Death will inherit your world, and SHE will be waiting." Like, either she wants the Jailer's D or she's in so much pain from Sargeras's sword. Also, what about that sword, by the way. Since the Jailer is all about turning weapon's into mourn-blades, there's already one sticking in Azeroth. How easy would it be to turn it into a mournblade and suck Azeroth's soul right into it?
The ethereals are divided between different factions, most of which were introduced during the Burning Crusade. The Consortium focuses purely on trade, and it's they who provide transmog and reforging. The Ethereum are radicals that seek vengeance against the Void Lords by wielding the very power that doomed K'aresh, and the Protectorate is fighting against them. Legion introduced a new faction called the Shadowguard, that seem to be directly in league with the Void, and are potential future enemy. I think it's the same deal with the brokers. Some just want to trade and provide services. Others have a secret goal that could be part of a larger cosmic scheme. Ve'nari has some kind of goal in the Maw, that has landed her in trouble with her cartel. It's very likely the brokers come from an undiscovered realm in the Shadowlands that we might actually visit in a future patch.
if u look at the brokers arms they have the same runes as the jailer. I think they're fundamentally linked to the jailer, maybe they were created in the maw or something? idk just my hypothesis
super exciting! Love your channel and as always you and your team have some of the best warcraft info out there. I don't even play wow anymore and yet I still come to watch this channel and keep up with what is going on. :D
talking about how they captured a Naaru... maybe its not "nonchalantly" but its like a group of weaker beings grouping up and taking on a stronger opponent. they might not be stronger than a naaru by them selves and could possibly have lost a few in capturing one, but maybe the naaru's worth is worth the risk in capturing one
Artificer also clearly has a more powerful flame as her 'essence' or whatever, wonder if that's just because she's satoated on anima or if it's one of her artifacts empowering her.
I'm calling it, there's a plane of Greed where greedy merchants go. AKA Goblins, Ethereals etc, where factions/cartels vie for power via various ways like Maldraxxus. As for the Sepulcher, the one in Maldraxxus makes sense, as the Jailer is looking for the lost Primus items and designs, might just be a coincidental name but heh.
I'm beginning to wonder if the Ethereal's mysterious Master might be in fact a Broker Cartel... Or if the Ethereal's might just be Brokers in different clothing more suitable to the Realm they're found in (i.e. "Reality") maybe the Realms of Outland, Dranor and Azeroth are damaging/caustic to the Brokers as we see them in the Shadowlands and they have to use a different outer casing/clothing to survive in them which, if I'm right means the being is only the energy field and not the mechanism (Broker's) or bandages (Ethereal's) we see them in...
If the Brokers aren't strictly speaking ALIVE then the purpose would hold little meaning for them. They don't necessarily have to be older, they just have to feel above the cosmos. Anyone who can travel it and wield such awesome powers could easily fall to a sense of hubris. They seem all powerful and can travel between worlds, but what if they are after, say, *Chromie*? They haven't indicated that they have any control over time. For someone who can do so much and love curiosities, Chromie would seem very interesting.
U are totally right around this . i Guess u are familiar with the questline outside the Theater of pain . in that line u go to another place , have u checked the map when u are there ? its saying : Azeroth >> Broken isles >> ARGUS >> Shattered grove . so they must have some connection with the locust walker .
If there is anyone who could potentially help heal a titan world soul... An ancient race like the brokers seem like a fair chance. Really interesting video!
we will have a few rogue brokers here and there but since they are also the profession trainer / innkeeper of Oribos so it’s impossible those NPC will suddenly become hostile It’s too much to code for Blizz
you know what that flame thing where the head should be is? a Dulahan! and some myths say that the flame is what conects body and head! so I dont think they are Dulahans, but I wonder if that flame works somewhat similar to a Dulahans. where the "body" we interact with is in fact a complete construction and the true form of the Brokers is still back at their home. This would explain why they are not afraid of sending their people maw, and even more importintly why they are able to know whats going on in the maw when noone else but the jailer and us "Maw Walkers" are soposta be able to do that!
According to Wikipedia, "A broker is a person or firm who arranges transactions between a buyer and a seller for a commission when the deal is executed." Better question would be, "who are they working for and what are they hoping to get out of it?"
Also the Arbiter looks Cartel-like... and when they say 'Now is the time' is it because the Arbiter is down? Since the Arbiter can judge souls because of its knowledge of all the souls, what is the Ethereals have been gathering that knowledge like a hivemind for the Arbiter? or what if Ethereals vs Cartel is a hint towards a void vs light fight that may somehow involve Elune? Ethereals do seem to be more shadowy void like.
You should also look at their attacks, I mean they're mostly arcane. Could they have experienced the same circumstances as the ethereals? Also, not just naaru, but fel beings such as Pit Lord's, and Elemental beings from the elemental plane. They can just go wherever they want
Denathrius hijacks the energy from guldans portal to break the arbiter, there's red anima that sucks it up at the end before it "closes" and explains guldans line when he says impossible, as even with khadgars meddling the portal wouldn't stop
It may be reading into it too much, but ethereals and brokers are the only transmogrifier in the game outside of the mog mount. And the mog mount NPC, was *not* a transmogrifier originally
You forgot to mention that *spoilers* we killed a whole bunch of Brokers in Necrolord's campaign. They were transporting artifacts to Kel'Thuzad that would allow him to open a gateway to the Maw. A gateway that would presumably work both ways. I am not really sure what are the rules of travel here, since lot a Maw characters seem to be able to travel back and forth between the Maw freely already, not just the Maw Walker (Mawsworn Kyrian, Helya, Lysonia...). But besides that, we don't know yet if Brokers knew what those items would do (well, presumably if they knew, they wouldn't care). But it means that there is probably almost a direct connection between them and the Jailer.
One thing that always bugged me is the fact that we always speak of this possible realm of order where the titans go when they die and stuff. But isn't our realm the realm of order? I know it doesn't go well with the chart that we got in chronicles but we've been proven since then that some things in those books are no longer cannon (such as the shadow = void thing). Technically speaking, the realm of order would be some sort of plane ruled by arcane where titans birth, right? But from what we know in the lore, it's exactly what our realm is like. I might be wrong on this one tho.
What if the broker/ethereal connection is that the brokers are the souls of ethereals sent to the shadowlands. They really do hail from the shadowlands. Thier realm may be where the wheeler/dealer souls go when they die. Have we seen goblin souls yet in shadowlands?
I HAVE A THEORY! They're after a sepulcher, a "tomb" of a sort, right? Whereas a body would be laid in protected solitude. BUT! WHAT IF THAT "Sepulcher" They're after is the Tomb Of Azeroth????? WHATTTTTTT???? Because didn't the Jailer say HE COMES FOR THE SOUL OF OUR WORLDDDDDD
How did brokers arrived recently at Oribos? One of them told me that the guys in charge at Oribos are reaaaaaaallly careful and it took them a LOT of time to get at least some kind of hold there.
It could be that they don't respect the Attendants and their "Purpose" because the Attendants are little better than robots, apparently unable to do anything more then going about their duties and hoping that the situation magically fixes itself. Taking you to see their boss when your arrival coincided with a twitch on her par seemed to stretch their flexibility to the limit.
My current theory is that they are essentially ethereals that came to the shadowlands and had their bodys stripped from the and that someone (maybe the old ones) crafted their little mech suit that keeps them together
This is Blizzard making sure it has content and possible a raid once we kill/imprison the jailer and fight Lich bound Anduin, in about two raids from now.. probably our next expansion's portal jockey's too.
I've been thinking about what are the future dungeons and raids in this expansion and Brokers seems better candidate by the day. I'm pretty sure next raid is in Maldraxxus and final tier is of course in The Maw but that's not gonna be everything unless Blizzard wants to do the bare minimum like in WoD and they don't want to another WoD. So what other options are there besides Brokers? Nothing as prevalent, that's for sure. Either Ardenweald or Bastion could be attacked and there's that datamined line about Archon dying so maybe that happens. My joke option would be Kyrians hosting Argent Tournament -style competition. Of course something could also happen behind our backs in Azeroth and we need to take quick detour there but I'd rather keep those kind of things small and save them as foreshadowing for future Azeroth expansion. And I guess some other cosmic force could make their appearance and threaten the balance of the whole cosmos and we must but an end to that. But none of those has even nearly as much build-up as Brokers. Brokers could also do something I think everyone would appreciate: new areas and new content. I like current 5 zones but let's be honest, they're not gonna stay entertaining on their own for the next 1,5-2 years. Imagine Brokers opening a portal every day to different location with some random activities. Gameplay-wise it could be elaborated version of Invasion Points in Argus and instead of just 1 event we do bunch of different stuff there for or against Brokers. Probably both because I'm sure that different cartels are gonna take different sides when shit hits the fan and smart person would side with us considering our unbreakable win streak. We could get a dungeon that's basically a combination of Violet Hold and the arena in Maldraxxus. And finally we breach HQ of one of the bigger cartels, maybe the one working with Jailer that now also allies with bunch of smaller ones and we must defeat them to shut down supply lines for the Jailer even further. Or maybe teir plan really is even bigger than Jailer's and they're gonna lead us to the future expansions.
They are setting up Amazon Prime in the Shadowlands
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@@Moredakkamus Good one haha!
Yes it really looks like the brokers are in game version of gorge S0r0s’ international trafficking and extortion empire/ mafia.
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Did you entirely miss the Broker quest in Maldraxxus, where we get an item for them from the Sepulcher of Knowledge? Containing the best military tactics in the entire cosmos?
The broker plotline will materialize in a future Hearthstone expansion Brokers vs Ethereals.
Lmao
Omg. That is definitely it and that makes me sad.
Damnit.
Next Blizzcon...
'Everyone has a mobile phone right'
The worst part is that you're probably right
people still play Hearthstone?
There is a side quest called the Sepulcher of Knowledge in Maldraxxus where you help a broker locate the sepulcher. Its when you go to Spider’s watch and through an tunnel to the right.
Broker in the dialogue sas:
The Sepulcher of Knowledge stores the writings of the greatest tactical minds who have ever served Maldraxxus.
Also in Maldraxxus you help the brokers captured elite enemies to support the fighting in the middle arena. And Maldraxions get to support the brokers supplying them with goodies from around SL's with the patchwork event follower. Brokers also control the Black Auction House in Revendreth.
I was also wondering how he had missed this, as I wrote above. Seems to explain a lot.
@@Vayra78 he was too busy googling “sephulcer.”
@j J I believe i saw this in a pyromancer video
@j J Yeah, Pyromancer made a video about it as well!
I don't think Xy'mox has been working with Denathrius. I think he is taking advantage of the siege on the castle to plunder some of the artifacts that were collected over the eons. He even mentions how the fighting has distracted the guards, and then talks about Denathrius' collection of powerful artifacts he has accumulated.
@@Fleshbag453 Yeah I checked this the other day and realized that he has worked with him. He's just not loyal to him.
There is a place in Maldraxxus called "The Sepulcher of Knowledge" and in a series of side quests we help a broker get into it.
That seems to add up
There is a further Sepulchre the Jailer is looking for. I suppose there would be alot of sepulchres in the afterlife.
Good quest line
Francis Gaherby could be the same one
@@Pahlavan_ sepulcher isn't that special a concept. Like someone else stated, there might be a lot of sepulchers in the afterlife
I really like the art style of the broker's soulfirehead thing. It's a nice 2d design that contrasts in the 3d world
I also was thinking about what are brokers really planning. The line from Bwonsamdi after killing the broker boss in De Other Side really intrigued me. Great video.
What did he say
The day we see a Broker have conversation with an Ethereal, you know we're in deep sh*t x'D
A monologue you mean? They are clearly the same race. Basically what Ethereals become when they die. They have the same habits of collecting treasure and information, they clearly have some sort of portals. I mean, wrap the floating heads and armor in bandages, you have Ethereals.
I've got the feeling once the "item" could be placed back into the heart of the Arbiter, those guys are going to yoink it.
Came here to look for if anyone said this, and found it. Yup, they've been branded as "procurer of items of interest" in addition to being traders for something. They're probably going to steal the heart from the Arbiter and sell it back to its original owner, the Jailer. They haven't infiltrated Oribos for nothing.
I'm so keen to see what zones are added in future patches, I'd love a broker like zone ..
It would be broken
I know, imagine an entire zone filled with NPC's saying "FoR yOu, I OfFeR OnLy tHe FiNeSt"
@@okdmrz would love it, Maw Walker
I remember when Ethereals in TBC were supposed to expand our universe.....still waiting.
Soon tm
It's fine Blizzard will just release a new race that share the same character models, the same story background and same purpose and expand on it just as little as before!
They're litterally just Shadowlands Branded Ethereals like new blizz is allergic to the idea of re-using the story and races of old blizz and expanding upon it, they have to simply write over the top of it with a sharpie.
We don't actually defeat Artificer, she teleports away once she reaches 0% health. She's still alive and will likely appear later.
xy'mox is a he
Brokers could just be what Ethereals become when they die, most or all Ethereals going to the Broker shadowlands plane.
I could see that maybe depending on the state of the people dying on karresh, they either got ethereal'd or sent to broker-lands.
I was thinking this and what if the void that destroyed their world caused a rift that allowed the void into the etherals shadow lands leading them to become the brokers and what lead to the void getting into bastion
The things that suggest to me that they aren't strictly Ethereals are two things: 1, the Ethereals originally had bodies and have only been missing them for 1,000 years. The Shadowlands and everything connected to it have been around far, far longer than that and the Brokers appear to have members that are far older than that. 2, Ethereal bodies have energy throughout themselves that needs to be bound together to create a form. The Brokers seem to have no such restriction.
That said, I do think the Ethereals are almost certainly able to become Brokers upon death, but that the Brokers are from a plane that worships greed. There are a few goblins in the shadowlands, for instance, but my theory is that many of them become Brokers after death through the Arbiter's judgment system. Similarly, anyone from any race could become a Broker, just as members of almost every race have been seen in each plane of the shadowlands. So, most likely Ethereals do become brokers in most cases, but I think it has more to do with their overall greed than it does the similarities in their looks.
Pretty sure brokers are goblin souls =p trading even in the afterlife.
@@fireflyexotica5525 Yeah, the whole Cartel thing makes me agree that there is a realm of Greed in the Shadowlands.
"A broker is a person or firm who arranges transactions between a buyer and a seller for a commission when the deal is executed."
The Brokers are sponsored by the Raid: Shadow Legends
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I’ve seen them saying some realllllllly sketchy dialogue to each other in Oribos!!!
On every torghast layer, on floor 3 you can see the brokers have captured the end of the floor boss in a little container.
Have they? I always thought it is just a hologram of the final boss.
Still, it is very suspicious they can just hang out directly next to the boss
Eeeh Nah it's a projection of which boss you will fight 3 layers later, nothing of lore-value
Its more likely to display what boss you‘re going to fight so you can choose your perks accordingly.
@@jameswayne2907 if that’s the case it’s still intriguing to see how they have all this information in Torghast and how long they’ve been meddling in there for
my theory is simple. the jailer once was a living being of azeroth. After a major event, they seperated his body and soul, the sepulcher is where his body is kept. What we deal in the maw is just a part of him, e. g his soul. Now he is looking to conquer what was once "his" (his original body)
Broker twist.. they are a representation of Blizzard itself inside their own game. xD
I definitely thought about that and was like " what if blizzard is actually the final raid of all warcraft "
Well they are blue......
I thought the arbiter would end up being a main villain
@@zfitness2005 i also think that, that the arbitter gonna turn up to be the real bad one.
Would explain their cartel vibe.
For some strange reason I feel like that there is an Eternal One who forged the Brokers and could have the title of Cartel King or something like that. Maybe they were designed to be the Wildcard of the Shadowlands.
Sylvanas's Lantern which was smashed by Genn Greymane looks like it might have been Broker tech.
They are like the Tal'Darim protoss in Starcraft
The Brokers are definitely strange, mysterious. I personally do not trust them, but it is interesting that one voice line shared by most of them is, "I hope our ventures will be profitable!", at least something like that. If they value knowledge, and not material possessions, then they might wish to profit off of the knowledge us mortals can bring them. But with everything each player character has seen, what if we accidentally give them knowledge of something we should have kept hidden?
Also, going way off topic here, but I feel some concern towards Tal'Inara, "The Honored Voice". She claims to speak for the Arbiter, however, this powerful orchestrator of souls is unconscious. How can one speak for another who is not there, who can't respond or give commands? Also, Tal'Inara seems to have control over all the Attendants in Oribos, which could be a larger problem if she is not to be trusted.
Oh, and these Attendants seem to have ranks, similar to how the Brokers have Cartels: Tal, the highest rank, Kah, second to Tal, then Roh, possibly for coordinating transportation. Of course we have Tal'Inara, then Kah'Delen and Kah'Sher, but then we have Roh'Avonavi, who is the flight master, and the Fatescribe, who I believe was Roh'Tahl, but he allowed us to experience the Shadowlands in two different ways, transporting us to a different timeline.
So, an Attendant with the rank of Tal can speak with and for the Arbiter. One with the rank of Kah might take over for Tal if they are absent for some reason. And one with the rank of Roh helps to coordinate transportation and movement around the Shadowlands. With this in mind, I think Tal'Inara may vanish at some point, causing Kah'Delen or Kah'Sher to take over in her absence. Then, perhaps the flight master, Roh'Avonavi, gave Tal'Inara transportation to somewhere else in the realm of death. This is just my theory, based on my own personal distrust towards "The Honored Voice".
Reminds me of Destiny 2: "I said I speak FOR the Traveler, I never said it spoke to me".
Total Tin-Foil-Hat moment, I think the Arbiter may be a broker-like being, (based on her non-corporeal form within her dress and mask, etc). It could be that the brokers used some kind of weapon to break her so they could escape and or make some kind of deal for power. They know we are trying to fix it/her, which is why they are hurrying to complete their plans. They want to stop us, which is why they went to the maw but Ve'Nari felt like we were a better lucrative plan and she betrayed them. That could be why they are looking for her as well, and trying to get us to give up her location. It would also explain why they are in every land we go to, they are gathering information from us, under the guise of offering us trinkets.
Thoughts?
dunno, Jailer said himself "Death comes to the soul of your world!" Wouldn't that implicate he wants to kill either Azeroths soul or all souls of the planets? Could sepulcher mean body of Azeroth? We never seen actual body of azeroth and we know they do have bodies since we fought Argus.
So far all Titans we have seen were capable of manifesting a body around them by themselves, but still it could be something vital in awakening her, body or not. "Death comes..." basically just means he refers to himself as "Death" sometimes, Denathrius referred to him that way as well. Maybe he wants to kill Azeroth, maybe he wants to turn her, we cannot know yet
Pay attention to the words - the Gaoler doesn’t say ‘I am coming for Azeroth’s soul.’ If Azeroth is dying (which we know is still likely) he’s potentially aiming to be there, because he’s the psychpompos for world souls? Or for some other reason we have yet to discover, I draw your attention to the fact that he’s coming with a huge army!
@@clogs4956 ooh yeah watctch this 1:58 th-cam.com/video/zuBo7AJDyRQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SeriousGaming he does say "death comes for the soul of your world"
and we can clearly assume by death he means himself since he represents death
Call me crazy, but I seriously don't think the Jailer gives 2 sh*ts about the titan in Azeroth. I think he just wants a weapon to fight the other cosmic forces. Possibly using Azeroth the same way Argus was used by Sargeras but possibly not even that. Him gaining Azeroth is like "cool, sweet, free loot". He seems to just want a gateway to the physical realm
Everyone else is fighting over that soul (fel, old gods, etc) whereas Zovaal has bigger fish to fry. Occupying the area that other beings want may be a benefit though
Great analysis! It’s so easy to miss lore when it comes in small conversations and this helps brings it all together
"they're not evil, they're self servicing".
Right, so they are intergalactic goblins
Basically
"they're not evil, they're [D&D textbook definition between Lawful or Neutral Evil]"
I thought goblins too because of the wealth, snarky tone of talking and most definitely observing each one of us intensely...hmm
What if the Brokers ( of cartel Xy in particular ) helped to break the Arbiter. They dont care about the purpose, they dont care about siding with the "bad" and they have confirmed themselves that our arrival is beneficial to them and that it gives them an opportunity . And if they are kinda new to Oribos that would fit the timeline of Arbiter breaking at the end of legion.
So the Jailer tells Sylvannas that he has eyes everywhere in the cinematics. What if the brokers were agents of the Jailer and are everywhere to do his bidding and keep an eye on us? The attendants state at the beginning of the expansion that the brokers only recently started coming to Oribos.
>Tfw it's been 2 weeks that I've started ignored everything of The Maw the isn't acquiring souls for Covenant and I have never been happier. Ve'Nari whomst?
The broker's cartels are what happens when Activision dies.
Wow will never die , shadowlands is the best game ever er made
"No connection" >listed an entire array of direct connections just before
We know that the void boyz are waging war with somebody unknown through the mage order hall quest lines. Possibly the brokers.
Xy'mox mentions "The warp" which could be lazy writing meaning the void or the nether but possibly something new entirely.
If I was Blizz... I'd make them the Actual Bad Guys. Pulling the strings behind the scenes, ultimately manipulating the Jailer. Basically, make them Braniac / The Collector, their motivation being to catalog and own literally everything. And have Venari be, ultimately, the reluctant hero who betrays her own kind after seeing the damage their manipulation has done in the Maw.
One of the Sinstones in Revendreth refers to a sadistic mad architect who achieves redemption and is sent to an afterlife realm called "The Craftenium" where all master crafters supposedly are destined to reside. Not sure how the Brokers might fit in, to what would clearly be a mid-patch crafting hub if anything, but certainly that would be of great interest to them. Could be a very Mechagon-esque sandbox.
I can't believe you didn't even reference how the brokers and the arbiter have a similar machine like aesthetic...like soul bound to a mechanical body. To me they look absolutely related, but not of the same make. I've actually wondered if they're in Oribos cause they want the Arbiter. I mean, she's seen infinite lives and she can judge all of those lives to send to their respective afterlives. She like a super computer + an internet of data x1000!
Yes and they can make a profit if people are willing to pay to get into the afterlife they want!
Maybe the jailers body is there and he needs it to rez just like us.
he is literally stuck as a spirit, with 5 billion years hearthstone cooldown.
The Brokers work for Ash Ketchum, their purpose is to catch every sort of creature in the universe. And the Sepulcher contains the Master Ball to catch Azeroth.
Not sure whether a terrible meme or actually a legit theory
Broke'mon
A gnome called "Oscar Zoroaster Phadrig Isaac Norman Henkle Emmannuel Ambroise Diggs" built them and is also the real Wizard of the Maw. The Jailer is his scary mirage to keep people away from his secret that hes just a little shit.
You forget to mention that kel'thuzard uses the Cartel Ba to bring him the domination dagger in order to bring the jailors plans into fruition in the necrolord campaign, they directly work with kel'thuzard and the jailor
Nice video man, the broker music in the background was super chill
What I really enjoy about this expansion is that the plot of the story is intriguing with a lot of depth. As I see it, the Brokers can became extremely important later in expansion with there knowledge and artifacts collected to give as the edge we need in defeating the Jailer. I do not think the legendries we have now will be the last one we get. More powerful and better might be access thru brokers at the late stages of our campaign.
Brokers coulda released that void being onto the ethereals
Maybe in the same way noble paladins go to Bastion, great warriors go to Maldraxxus, druids close to nature go to Ardenweald, then players who focus on collecting (mounts, toys, transmogs, recipes etc) go to wherever the Brokers reside.
I'm rather surprised you didn't mention the Kyrian Campaign's quest where you infiltrate the tower in Maldraxas to steal the knowledge of the Primus in the form of the books of war. A quest fully carried out alongside a dubious broker who wanted to take literally ALL the books of importance for some ominous upcoming event.
I reckon the Sepulchre contains whatever is missing from the Jailer's chest. Getting it back is like Perfect Form Cell. I think the Brokers are looking for it either as part of an agreement that was already made for information from the Jailer, or as leverage to make a deal for information with the masters of the realms of Death, either the Jailer or the Eternal Ones.
Wild theory here... The brokers, for some strange reason, make me think of the Doctor Who episode titled "The Unquiet Dead". In this episode, aliens had the ability to travel through gas and then possess a dead body. Maybe, just maybe, these brokers are able to gain entrance into other realities through the process of resurection. When we die in-game, we go to a graveyard and then have to run back to our bodies as a ghost. What if, when we die, these brokers, in their gaseous state, hitch a ride with our ghost form while we have that connection to the Shadowlands, and upon resurrection, the gas is released into the atmosphere where they are able to possess some other being. Wild. Theory.
Take a shot every time he takes a guess at the lore then asks the audience - "right"?
damnn youu! 😂😂
Instructions unclear; not nearly drunk enough.
The weekly pvp quests are called observing arenas and observing battle etc... this shows they are like the ethereals observing us!
I’ve been intrigued by the way in which the writers are using careful words/syntax. I find myself very aware of ambiguity. From the start, I thought the Brokers were Ethereals and possibly Up To No Good. We’ll just have to wait and see. I still wonder if they had a hand in building the Arbiter (she has something of the Brokers about her as well as Bastion, whose inhabitants may prefer obedient machinery over independent life) and if her ‘heart’ is actually the Gaoler’s.
Remember that just about everyone in the Shadowlands warns us not to trust what we hear or see. Right now, I’m hoping I can trust Ve’nari as long as she wants something from me and I can pay, given her name suggests she is venal.
I love the beings like the brokers, etherials and tortillan seekers they're so interesting and cool
I think the Brokers might be trying to take advantage of the Arbiter's incapacitation to hotwire Oribos and redirect the flow of souls to their own purposes.
Maybe the Brokers are the dead version of the Ethereals pre void shenanigans.
A race of Death (like Maldraxxi, Venthir, etc.) that can no longer grow their numbers.
Or maybe the Ethereals are Brokers who got sucked into the void when it attacked Bastion, and kinda ended up in the mortal plane when they escaped
'even though there is no clear link there now..'
I like that a lot. Some content creators would have tried to brute force the connection before the information is known. Great work avoiding that trap, really liked this vid.
Ok Am I the ONLY 1 aware that in Maldraxus there is a place called THE SEPULCHER, and that the chain quest there is lead by a Broker, and that is literally a depository of KnowledgeArmory/Arsenal??!!!?? Any comments on that fellas?
I suspect that the big macguffin of the Shadowlands expansion is whatever the Arbiter has in her chest and I also suspect that it was removed from the Jailers chest after his betrayal (the Heart of Zovaal?). Wouldnt be shocked if the Brokers were after the exact same thing.
Every expansion I go in with a complete desire to read every quest text and take in the story like a sponge. Within 30 quests that dies and I lean back into speed levelling and miss the story. I wish that wasnt the case :(
Maybe need to try new games, bruh.
Just one tiny thing everyone missed. There is a quest in Maldraxxus in which they confirm the Lifelands. Or rather "Gardens of Life". It's a side quest where you have to find a sword for a skeleton and he casually mentions this realm.
Not sure if it's been referenced, but Xy'mox doesn't work with Denathrius. They state that the guards are away, and that it's a perfect time to pilfer the Venthyr lord's coffers. He's there on a heist.
Don't know if it means anything, but when you click on the Brokers, one of their spoken dialogs is...
"Death is the ultimate transaction."
i thought it went "heh that was the ultimate transaction"
I am halfway into the video and I can't help but wonder what would happen if the player character became an item of interest for the Brokers? Would we be able to resist them?
I also wonder if they had any influence in shaping the materials that gave the goblin's their personality traits? Goblins are greedy, like to make deals, and generally get what they want no matter how impossible it is to obtain. The goblins also learned how to build machinery and even harness the holy light through sheer willpower alone because you can make money off of church donations. We have yet to see.
‘Learning from the masters of every reality’ definitely reminds me of the books in Revendreth - the ones that likely talk about Dreadlords infiltrating all of the cosmic forces. It’d be interesting to find more signs of both DLs and Brokers in upcoming storylines. If we’re gonna be exploring the many realms and the cosmos of the WoW universe, then it’d make sense to run into races the have infiltrated or travelled seemingly everywhere.
Very interesting. I hadn't really thought about them much beyond the "why do they have blades" question.
They can also shield you from the jailer, just for ease of gameplay? Maybe.
I noticed really quickly how similar the Arbiter and brokers look. I feel like the Arbiter is a broker, and I find it eerie that many of the brokers say "death, is the ultimate transaction". In a way the Arbiter's job was to sort and organize souls, some how perhaps buying and selling them? I can't help but think that maybe, this is the broken system that Sylvanas and the Jailer are intent on tearing down. Perhaps the Arbiter is a usurper and the Jailer was the rightful sorter of souls and wasn't quite such a douche before the Arbiter stole his heart, or better yet, fell in love with the Arbiter, gave her his heart, she said "nah, you bald and ugly" imprisoned him in the Maw. Now the Jailer is bitter and in prison and needs another heart, hence why he want's Azeroth so bad. Perhaps Azeroth likes ripped, douchey bald men because I keep thinking about Gul'dan's warning at the end of Nighthold; "In the end, Death will inherit your world, and SHE will be waiting." Like, either she wants the Jailer's D or she's in so much pain from Sargeras's sword. Also, what about that sword, by the way. Since the Jailer is all about turning weapon's into mourn-blades, there's already one sticking in Azeroth. How easy would it be to turn it into a mournblade and suck Azeroth's soul right into it?
The ethereals are divided between different factions, most of which were introduced during the Burning Crusade. The Consortium focuses purely on trade, and it's they who provide transmog and reforging. The Ethereum are radicals that seek vengeance against the Void Lords by wielding the very power that doomed K'aresh, and the Protectorate is fighting against them. Legion introduced a new faction called the Shadowguard, that seem to be directly in league with the Void, and are potential future enemy.
I think it's the same deal with the brokers. Some just want to trade and provide services. Others have a secret goal that could be part of a larger cosmic scheme. Ve'nari has some kind of goal in the Maw, that has landed her in trouble with her cartel. It's very likely the brokers come from an undiscovered realm in the Shadowlands that we might actually visit in a future patch.
if u look at the brokers arms they have the same runes as the jailer. I think they're fundamentally linked to the jailer, maybe they were created in the maw or something? idk just my hypothesis
super exciting! Love your channel and as always you and your team have some of the best warcraft info out there. I don't even play wow anymore and yet I still come to watch this channel and keep up with what is going on. :D
talking about how they captured a Naaru... maybe its not "nonchalantly" but its like a group of weaker beings grouping up and taking on a stronger opponent. they might not be stronger than a naaru by them selves and could possibly have lost a few in capturing one, but maybe the naaru's worth is worth the risk in capturing one
Bellular always has to squeeze 'lifelands' into every lore video.. I always have, and always *will* hate that name. XD
Artificer also clearly has a more powerful flame as her 'essence' or whatever, wonder if that's just because she's satoated on anima or if it's one of her artifacts empowering her.
I'm calling it, there's a plane of Greed where greedy merchants go. AKA Goblins, Ethereals etc, where factions/cartels vie for power via various ways like Maldraxxus.
As for the Sepulcher, the one in Maldraxxus makes sense, as the Jailer is looking for the lost Primus items and designs, might just be a coincidental name but heh.
I'm beginning to wonder if the Ethereal's mysterious Master might be in fact a Broker Cartel...
Or if the Ethereal's might just be Brokers in different clothing more suitable to the Realm they're found in (i.e. "Reality") maybe the Realms of Outland, Dranor and Azeroth are damaging/caustic to the Brokers as we see them in the Shadowlands and they have to use a different outer casing/clothing to survive in them which, if I'm right means the being is only the energy field and not the mechanism (Broker's) or bandages (Ethereal's) we see them in...
Saw a comment that the brokers were setting up an Amazon facility center in the shadowlands. So I'm expecting to find a ve'bezos, soon.
If the Brokers aren't strictly speaking ALIVE then the purpose would hold little meaning for them. They don't necessarily have to be older, they just have to feel above the cosmos. Anyone who can travel it and wield such awesome powers could easily fall to a sense of hubris. They seem all powerful and can travel between worlds, but what if they are after, say, *Chromie*? They haven't indicated that they have any control over time. For someone who can do so much and love curiosities, Chromie would seem very interesting.
U are totally right around this . i Guess u are familiar with the questline outside the Theater of pain . in that line u go to another place , have u checked the map when u are there ?
its saying : Azeroth >> Broken isles >> ARGUS >> Shattered grove . so they must have some connection with the locust walker .
If there is anyone who could potentially help heal a titan world soul... An ancient race like the brokers seem like a fair chance.
Really interesting video!
we will have a few rogue brokers here and there but since they are also the profession trainer / innkeeper of Oribos so it’s impossible those NPC will suddenly become hostile
It’s too much to code for Blizz
you know what that flame thing where the head should be is? a Dulahan! and some myths say that the flame is what conects body and head! so I dont think they are Dulahans, but I wonder if that flame works somewhat similar to a Dulahans. where the "body" we interact with is in fact a complete construction and the true form of the Brokers is still back at their home. This would explain why they are not afraid of sending their people maw, and even more importintly why they are able to know whats going on in the maw when noone else but the jailer and us "Maw Walkers" are soposta be able to do that!
The Brokers are the "bye bye boar asses hello cosmic warfare" introduction
According to Wikipedia, "A broker is a person or firm who arranges transactions between a buyer and a seller for a commission when the deal is executed." Better question would be, "who are they working for and what are they hoping to get out of it?"
Brilliant video, as always, however I must say I have no idea who this Ve'nari person you mentioned is.
Also the Arbiter looks Cartel-like... and when they say 'Now is the time' is it because the Arbiter is down? Since the Arbiter can judge souls because of its knowledge of all the souls, what is the Ethereals have been gathering that knowledge like a hivemind for the Arbiter? or what if Ethereals vs Cartel is a hint towards a void vs light fight that may somehow involve Elune? Ethereals do seem to be more shadowy void like.
You should also look at their attacks, I mean they're mostly arcane. Could they have experienced the same circumstances as the ethereals?
Also, not just naaru, but fel beings such as Pit Lord's, and Elemental beings from the elemental plane. They can just go wherever they want
Denathrius hijacks the energy from guldans portal to break the arbiter, there's red anima that sucks it up at the end before it "closes" and explains guldans line when he says impossible, as even with khadgars meddling the portal wouldn't stop
It may be reading into it too much, but ethereals and brokers are the only transmogrifier in the game outside of the mog mount. And the mog mount NPC, was *not* a transmogrifier originally
You forgot to mention that
*spoilers*
we killed a whole bunch of Brokers in Necrolord's campaign. They were transporting artifacts to Kel'Thuzad that would allow him to open a gateway to the Maw. A gateway that would presumably work both ways. I am not really sure what are the rules of travel here, since lot a Maw characters seem to be able to travel back and forth between the Maw freely already, not just the Maw Walker (Mawsworn Kyrian, Helya, Lysonia...). But besides that, we don't know yet if Brokers knew what those items would do (well, presumably if they knew, they wouldn't care). But it means that there is probably almost a direct connection between them and the Jailer.
One thing that always bugged me is the fact that we always speak of this possible realm of order where the titans go when they die and stuff. But isn't our realm the realm of order?
I know it doesn't go well with the chart that we got in chronicles but we've been proven since then that some things in those books are no longer cannon (such as the shadow = void thing). Technically speaking, the realm of order would be some sort of plane ruled by arcane where titans birth, right? But from what we know in the lore, it's exactly what our realm is like.
I might be wrong on this one tho.
What if the broker/ethereal connection is that the brokers are the souls of ethereals sent to the shadowlands. They really do hail from the shadowlands. Thier realm may be where the wheeler/dealer souls go when they die. Have we seen goblin souls yet in shadowlands?
You can find some of them say weird things, like for example they are counting each soul that goes into the maw...I wonder why.
I HAVE A THEORY!
They're after a sepulcher, a "tomb" of a sort, right? Whereas a body would be laid in protected solitude. BUT! WHAT IF THAT "Sepulcher" They're after is the Tomb Of Azeroth?????
WHATTTTTTT????
Because didn't the Jailer say HE COMES FOR THE SOUL OF OUR WORLDDDDDD
Yes i think body of Azeroth is trapped there and if they want to rule Azeroth, the easiest way is to trap the soul in her own body and lock it up.
11:01 careful, there is a screamer in the video
LMAO
Stichyard has a quest to use a broker portal to obtain an item, the portal takes you to some part of argus that is frozen over.
How did brokers arrived recently at Oribos? One of them told me that the guys in charge at Oribos are reaaaaaaallly careful and it took them a LOT of time to get at least some kind of hold there.
Vast Cosmic Arena - Itty bitty living space.
It could be that they don't respect the Attendants and their "Purpose" because the Attendants are little better than robots, apparently unable to do anything more then going about their duties and hoping that the situation magically fixes itself. Taking you to see their boss when your arrival coincided with a twitch on her par seemed to stretch their flexibility to the limit.
My current theory is that they are essentially ethereals that came to the shadowlands and had their bodys stripped from the and that someone (maybe the old ones) crafted their little mech suit that keeps them together
This is Blizzard making sure it has content and possible a raid once we kill/imprison the jailer and fight Lich bound Anduin, in about two raids from now.. probably our next expansion's portal jockey's too.
I've been thinking about what are the future dungeons and raids in this expansion and Brokers seems better candidate by the day. I'm pretty sure next raid is in Maldraxxus and final tier is of course in The Maw but that's not gonna be everything unless Blizzard wants to do the bare minimum like in WoD and they don't want to another WoD. So what other options are there besides Brokers? Nothing as prevalent, that's for sure. Either Ardenweald or Bastion could be attacked and there's that datamined line about Archon dying so maybe that happens. My joke option would be Kyrians hosting Argent Tournament -style competition. Of course something could also happen behind our backs in Azeroth and we need to take quick detour there but I'd rather keep those kind of things small and save them as foreshadowing for future Azeroth expansion. And I guess some other cosmic force could make their appearance and threaten the balance of the whole cosmos and we must but an end to that. But none of those has even nearly as much build-up as Brokers.
Brokers could also do something I think everyone would appreciate: new areas and new content. I like current 5 zones but let's be honest, they're not gonna stay entertaining on their own for the next 1,5-2 years. Imagine Brokers opening a portal every day to different location with some random activities. Gameplay-wise it could be elaborated version of Invasion Points in Argus and instead of just 1 event we do bunch of different stuff there for or against Brokers. Probably both because I'm sure that different cartels are gonna take different sides when shit hits the fan and smart person would side with us considering our unbreakable win streak. We could get a dungeon that's basically a combination of Violet Hold and the arena in Maldraxxus. And finally we breach HQ of one of the bigger cartels, maybe the one working with Jailer that now also allies with bunch of smaller ones and we must defeat them to shut down supply lines for the Jailer even further. Or maybe teir plan really is even bigger than Jailer's and they're gonna lead us to the future expansions.