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- The Trinity: three persons, one deceptively simple concept that has spawned dozens of theological headaches over the centuries! Kai and Libby try to explain what the Trinity means and what the implications of it are for Catholics today without falling into any major heresies.
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LOVE this! Been searching for a video to show my students for a long time. So glad someone created one!
Glad it was helpful!
The Trinity teaches that The Father isn't the Son.
But, the bible said "Me and The Father are one"
The Trinity teaches that Jesus is God.
However, jesus said in the bible "people call me great, I say only God is great.
People believe in the Trinity.
However, there's not a single verse in the Bible that says God is three in one.
Come on guys, educate yourselves.. Go read one page of the Qur'an you won't regret it.
Hi Rami, it may interest you to know that we have indeed read the Qur'an. Doctrinally, Islam and Catholicism differ on a lot of levels. There are also areas of agreement. Islam is a beautiful religion and we embrace our Muslim brothers and sisters, just as we embrace all faiths that seek the Truth.
@@CatholicCentralVideos Thank you brothers, Inshallah we will all see Heaven one day. 😀
But trust me I didn't mean to insult Catholism, I was just looking for answers. God bless you all 🙂
@Rami Moussi, no offense taken. As-Salamu Alaykum.
My teacher told me to watch this for homework and I’m so confused 😂
SAME
The Trinity has puzzled many of the greatest minds over the centuries. What specific questions do you have that the episode didn't address?
@@CatholicCentralVideos when Jesus went to church,did he pray to God knowing that he was also one of the persons of God and if so was it necessary for Jesus to go to church to remove sin from Adam and Eve
Blaberjack, your question reminds us of John the Baptist’s “Wait, what?” when Jesus in Matthew 4 asks to be baptized. John says, “I need to be baptized by you, and yet are coming to me?” Jesus answers, “Let it be so, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Though Jesus is sinless himself, he fulfills the plan of salvation as the last Adam by becoming one of us, leading us in obedience to God the Father. For similar reasons, Jesus attends synagogue like every Jewish man of his time in observance of God’s law. And it's on a sabbath day during "church" - God's chosen people gathered in worship - that God chooses to reveal himself in Christ. “Today,” Jesus says in the synagogue at Nazareth after proclaiming the words of Old Testament prophecy, “that scripture is fulfilled in your presence.” (Luke 4:21) Throughout his ministry, God the Son gives glory to God the Father, a humility that mirrors the selfless love among the three Divine Persons of the Trinity. As Paul says it so well: “Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped.” (Philippians 2:5-6). Hope this helps, and thanks for jumping in.
@@CatholicCentralVideos thank youu for clearing that up
This was awesome! Thank you.🕊
You are so welcome
Thank you for this wonderful video that helps me a lot for the basic catechism of my students. Hope to see more videos for the young ones about the teachings of the Church.
So glad it's helpful!
I love that outro. I've probably heard it before but I understand it better after your explanation of the Holy Trinity.
When i was young we have a binle with the same illustration or picture at 3:02 seconds, if anyone has a copy or pdf file would you please send it to me, even at young age i love that bible which in time we somehow lost the book, God Bless Catholic And Proud
You can find it here: images.app.goo.gl/D2q8Y9jwWY2Gv8j99
Hello. Is there any way you could please check the box that this video is intended for children? That way, my daughter will be able to access it through TH-cam Kids. Thanks!
Thanks so much for viewing and for your interest, Due to the mature nature of some of the episodes’ content, we can't just check the box on all of them. We are planning to conduct a review of the episodes in the future to determine, one by one, if that box can be checked.
This video really helps to explain the Holy Trinity to the Confirmation students in my class.
Really good to hear that, Peter, since it's one of our main goals. Be sure to check our Episode Guide for a full list of our series, with descriptions. It's on the website, catholiccentral.com. Here's the link: 275132.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/275132/Catholic%20Central%20Episode%20Guide.pdf
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Gospel for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes.
I have seen a geometric design which tries to illustrate the Trinity. An equilateral triangle with circle inside. Inside the circle is written GOD, and at each point of the triangle, one says Father, one says Son and the other says Holy Spirit. Between the circle and each angle there is the word 'is' so as to read 'God is the Father'; 'God is the Son' and 'God is the Holy Spirit' and on the sides of the triangle are the words 'is not' to read 'The Father is not the Son; the Son is not the Holy Spirit'; and 'the Holy Spirit is not the Father' .
John 4:24 - What does that make the Father, and the Son . Leviticus 11:44, 45 What does this make the Father, and Son now
0:44 A small correction if I may - he showed himself to *The Israelites* which is something very different than 'The Jewish People'.
1. THE I (your internal voice / Consciousness), 2. THE SELF (The physical you / your body), 3. THE SOUL (Qualia, feelings and emotions). They are all IN YOU. The ONE person.
1. The Father - 2. The Son - 3. The Holy Spirit = YOU
---> "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" - Albert Einstein
One of my kiddos asked a question. The answers was a Trinity. Which then become explaining the Trinity. I used the shamrock and the water and ice method. Causing more confusion. They are 6 and 7 years-old. I am hope it is okay if I share this video with the parents.
Hi laddybug3, please feel free to share this video with anyone you feel might like to see it. That is why they were created.
I'm Anglican and got confirmed a few weeks ago. I just wanted to let Kai and Libby know that the videos that you guys produce really helped me during my confirmation process. Thank you so much and may God bless you abundantly❤
We are so glad we could help!
A mystery is a truth above our nature
I hear 2 sides saying that Jesus is literally god the one who created everything or they r 2 different ppl. I wanna believe the truth but I don’t know which one is and I’m sad and lost abt it. Plz help me :(
Hi Oh. As this episode explains, Catholics believe that there is only one God. But we also believe that this one God is in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There are many ways to look at this but not one of them really explains it completely, it is a mystery. It is not something that any one human being has been able to figure out. We think, though, we do a pretty good job at presenting the Trinity in this video.
As for Truth, listen to your heart. This is where God will speak to you. At his most simple, God is Love. In your search for the Truth, look for and act out of love and you will find God.
0h2, also check out the New Testament stuff that doesn’t leave a lotta room to wonder if “Jesus is literally the god the one who created everything.” How about that opening of John’s gospel:
In the beginning was the Word
And the Word was with God
And the Word was God.
There it is spelled out in black and white! The Word WAS (and IS) God! The Word of God (Jesus the “Logos”) and God are ONE GOD, the Same God in the Holy Spirit - from the beginning, the God who created everything. And don’t forget what Paul says about Jesus the Word of God that “all things were created through him.” (Colossians 1:16) There’s your answer! Don’t be sad!
Thanks for the assist!
John 17:3. Jesus is Gods son. There is no trinity. God made Jesus. The holy spirit is gods active force, it is not a person
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been}
The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.
Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father}
Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD.
Proverbs 15 {The Omniscience of the Father}
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
1 John 3:20
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Romans 11:33
Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!
Matthew 19:26 {The Omnipotence of The Father}
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Revelation 1: 8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.
Malachi 3:6 {The Immutability of the Father}
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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John 8:58; 1:4; 5:26 {Jesus is self - Existent}
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Micah 5:2 {Jesus has always been he is eternal} Colossians 1:16-17
But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
And he is before all things.
Rev 1:8; John 3:16; 5:26
But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
John 12:44-50; 14:16 {Jesus is infallible}
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
Matthew 18:20; 28:19-20; John 3:13 {The Omnipresence of the Son}
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Ephesians 4:10
He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things
John 21:17; 2:24-25; 18:4 {The omniscience of the Son}
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep.
Colossians 2:3
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
John 2:24-25
But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people.
He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
John 16:30
Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God."
Matthew 28:18; John 6: 36; 14:11; 15:24 {The Omnipotence of The Son}
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth.
Revelation 22:13, 16
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Hebrews 13:8 {The Immutability of the Son}
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
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Hebrews 9:14 {The Omnipresence of the Spirit he has always been}
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Psalm 139:7
Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 {The Omniscience of the Spirit}
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
“Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.”
1 Corinthians 12:8-11 { The Omnipotence of The Spirit }
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
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Mark 12:28 And Yet God is one
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him; the first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
In His service,
'True Christian Religion'
Emanuel Swedenborg born 1688-1772
166 These three, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the three essentials of the one God, and they make one as soul, body, and operation make one in humans.
From the trinity in every man, who can fail to perceive the Trinity in the Lord Jesus Christ? In all humans there is a soul, body, and operation; so also in the Lord, God became Man "for in the Lord dwells all the fullness of Divinity bodily," according to Paul (Col. 2:9); therefore in the Lord the Trinity is Divine, but in man it is human. In this mystical notion that there are three Divine persons and yet one God, and that this God, although one, is nevertheless not one person, everyone can see that reason has no part but has been put to sleep, and still it compels the mouth to speak like a parrot. And when reason is put to sleep what is a speech from the mouth but dead speech? When the mouth utters that which reason turns away from and dissents from, is not speech foolish?
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Why are you quoting a swede ? And not a particularly smart one?
Frist,
He Denies the Vicarious Atonement, the Trinity, and deity of the Holy Spirit.
Second,
He believes the Bible is the inspired word of God with two levels: the historical and the deeper spiritual one.
Third,
What does this mean? ""The Christian trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are aspects of God just as soul, body, and activities are aspects of each one of us.", eh?
Fourth,
There is no personal devil.---yeah ok! satans greatest work convincing humans he does not exist.
Fifth,
Scriptures are best interpreted through the writings of Swedenborg.-- yeak ok!
Sixth,
Swedenborg stated that the Acts and Epistles were not inspired as are the four Gospels and the Book of Revelation -- what demon was he listening to ?
Seventh,
At a person’s death, his mind falls asleep for three days in a place called the world of the spirits. Afterwards, he awakens and encounters spirits who’ve died before hand who help him adjust to the afterlife.--- yeah right! perhaps i should introduce him to Tom Cruise...LOL
Eight,
There is marriage in heaven.-- now he's a Mormon?
Ninth,
In 1744 he was stricken with a severe delirium which seems to have affected his mind for the rest of his life since many trance states were attributed to him as his life progressed.
In 1745 he had a vision where loathsome creatures seemed to crawl on the walls of his room. Then a man appeared who claimed to be God. This apparition said that Emanuel was to be the one who would communicate the teachings of the unseen realm to the people of the world. He would be the means by which God would further reveal Himself to the world.
Perhaps he was one of the reincarnations of Shirley McClain ...LOL (only a swede how embarrassing)
Candersson Swedican, I don’t think these videos are meant for someone like you, and if you are interested in a deep Catholic theology discussion I can invite you to a Discord where these conversations are welcome, are you Catholic?
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So tell me, who are these "videos" made for and you use the plural (videos ) why are there more? and what do you mean "some-one like you" who do you perceive me to be? Kate who wrote and narrated the four videos i have on the trinity is Catholic she is a graduate of Notre Dame is that good enough for u? So who are you?
I come into this thread and defend the faith and you question me? Are you an enemy of Christ ? Are you qualified to even ask me? Do you have the authority to speak for Catholic Central? Tell me, what about this video is not meant for me? Not trying to be rude i just need to know.
@@michaljosealtadelescubaies4118 Trinity simply explained for Non-Christians by Bible Prince
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LOL, "...Trinity from the Matrix, I get..." Entertaining and informative. Found this channel to do more digging on the Trinitarian dogma while listening to Fr Mike's Catechism in a Year (CIY). You followed the Catechism to the letter, almost as if you used this as a blueprint to this podcast (pun intended). Keep up the great work! 2/4/2023
All in the kindness walk better 🌐💚
glante david
Many people, including some Christians, find it difficult to comprehend the doctrine of the Trinity.
In my opinion, the closest example of the doctrine of the Trinity is what happens in a Democracy.
In a democracy, ONE government is made up of 3 branches, namely the Executive (President) , Judiciary and Legislature. Each branch has a specific role but they all constitute ONE government, not THREE
Hi glante david, thanks so much for the contribution! The more analogies like yours the better to help understand this greatest of holy mysteries. We just have to remember that even the best analogies can only get so close to describing the Trinity, or like the boy says in the intro, "get it fit into our tiny little brains!"
The simplest way to understand the trinity is by explaining that Philo of Alexandria was the first to teach a trinity. It was adopted by the catholic fathers, made law by Rome, received by the Reformers. From there it has spread to many church denominations.
Plato taught it before Philo. The ancient Babylonians worshiped Trinity Gods.
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You are right to a certain point. Philo connected the Old Testament scriptures to his allegorical method and gave us a supposedly biblical trinity. None of the people you mentioned, did such a thing.
Plato?
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No. Philo is the direct link to the Trinity that Catholics and Protestants profess today.
Those who read Plato's wording and terminology will see a similarity with the evolving explanations of the Trinity.
Are there bible verses supporting 3 gods in 1 god? Or is it an assumed tradition?
Hi Dmctalon, we would suggest you watch the episode before commenting on it.
It is assumed tradition, the Trinity developed hundreds of years after the last Apostles died. No one in scripture knows of a Trinity.
Okay so I have a question. I'm Catholic and when you said God has no gender(5:43) but inside the bible they refer God as "He"
Hi Georgie, it is good to remember that the books of the Bible, though divinely inspired, were written by human beings and those human beings were most probably men. Not only that, they were written in a very male-oriented society. So it is not surprising that, when needing to refer to God using a pronoun, the writers would use a male pronoun.
@@CatholicCentralVideos okay thankyou
Makes no sense huh
What makes no sense?
@@CatholicCentralVideos God is a FATHER,stop telling people that God is gender neutral,MAN IS THE IMAGE OF GOD WHILE WOMAN IS CREATED FOR MAN! woman is SUBORDINATE to men,Men Is A HIGHER BEING,they are the most accurate representation of God!
1 Corinthians 11:9 for indeed man was not CREATED for the woman's sake, but woman for the MAN'S SAKE.
I and catholic love father and son and holy spirit🕊❤️🔥
I'm taken aback by the production value of the green screened messy room
Hi Dustin, we could provide a lengthy explanation about how some of our skits are meant to be "campy" but would rather you pay attention to the content instead.
At 4:30, the video mentions that the Trinity gives us multi or points of access to God, and that if you can’t relate to the Father, you can relate to the Son.
I have the opposite problem. I tend to be able to identify more with the Father than with Jesus. It’s part of my Christian struggle, I suppose.
Hi @greytooth898, we do not see this as a problem. The wonderful thing about our understanding of the Trinity is that you can relate different parts of the Trinity depending on where you are in your life. If your access to the Trinity is through God, the Father, then there is nothing wrong with that. Perhaps at a different point in your life you may find yourself identifying with one of the other parts of the Trinity.
@@CatholicCentralVideos thank you, that's been troubling me. I'm an Anglican, but our liturgies are relatively similar, and I've been feeling guilty about having more affection for the Father than for the Son.
I know you all at Catholic Central probably take a dim view of Anglicanism. I admire Catholicism deeply, but there are a few sticking points for me. I'm troubled by prayer to saints because I believe we should only pray to God the Father, or our Savior Jesus Christ. I also don't agree with papal infallibility.
who die in cross, only Jesus or all 3 of them, Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit. God is 1 but why i still in my head imagine 3 different thing, Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit, so God can died. if jesus is father so father died in cross too. did moses believe in trinity.
Hi Safuwan Fauzi, we believe that Jesus was completely human and when he died on the cross he was showing us that death is not an end, but a transition. God cannot die and neither will we, if we live our lives aligned with God’s will. Our souls will continue to live in communion with God, one God in three Divine Persons, a luminous mystery we will experience with joy and, at last, with perfect understanding. As for Moses believing in the Trinity, that is doubtful.
love involves THREE things, namely loving the beloved and love itself. if God is love, then surely God is trinity. The loving Father, the beloved Son and the Holy Spirit who is love itself.
Legend please. I Brasilian. Thanks
Can we get some more clarity? We are not sure what you are asking.
@@CatholicCentralVideos you can subtitle as well as translate
Hi Em nome de Jesus, we do have English subtitles on the programs. Unfortunately, we do not have the budget to create foreign language subtitles for all of our episodes. We do have a Spanish sister program called "Lente Catolico" on TH-cam, you may want to check that out.
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Assuming Trinity theology is true: would it be accurate to say that "God the Son" loves you more then "God the Father" given that "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13 KJV?
Hi Mazix Kazz, God as the Father and God as the Son are the same one true God. So when God the Son lays down his life, God the Father is laying down his as well, since it is the action of the one true God of the Trinity.
Does that mean that God as the Father and God as the Son are the same being, the One true God of creation?
Along with the Holy Spirit, yes.
Catholic Central I feel the reason so much explanation is needed for the trinity is that it is not in the Bible.
Would it not be easier to simply go to the word of God to find out exactly who God is?
We are clearly told that God is "one" at Deut 6:4. In fact, when asked by a scribe what the greatest commandment was Jesus quoted Deut 6:4, "'Listen, Israel: Yahweh our God is the one, the only Yahweh." Catholic Jerusalem Bible
Does the Bible tell us elsewhere the identity of the one God? Yes.
Mal 2:10 "Have we not all one father?
Has not one God created us? JB
Eph 4:6 "one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." JB
1 Cor 8:6 "yet for us there is
one God, the Father from whom all things are and for whom we exist,"
In fact, there is no other person who is called the "one God" in scripture other than the Father.
Who is the LORD, Yahweh, the one God of Deut 6:4?
Isa 63:16 " After all, you are our Father. If Abraham will not own us, if Israel will not acknowledge us, you, Yahweh, are our Father," Jerusalem Bible
Isa 64:7 "And yet, Yahweh, you are our Father; we the clay and you our potter, all of us are the work of your hands." JB
The only person clearly identified in scripture as "Yahweh" (LORD) is the Father.
When Jesus was praying to the Father in the garden he said this at John 17:3 "And eternal life is this: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." JB
Surely if Jesus called the Father the "only true God" then he must be.
No need for multiple illustrations in order to explain the person of God. It is clear in scripture that there is only one God and that he is the Father, only the Father
Indeed, if Christ had authored a book while on Earth, many issues would be more clear. But we have to take His words, as recorded, seriously, such as “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28:19)
@@CatholicCentralVideos You said of Jesus "we have to take His words, as recorded, seriously,". I agree.
I quoted the words of our Lord at John 17:3. Are they not to be considered seriously?
"And eternal life is this: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." JB
Surely if Jesus said that the Father is the only true God, He must be.
Unlike Matt 28:19, which I consider to be a very important command from Jesus, this verse does not reveal to us that all three mentioned are all God or the true God. However, at John 17:3 we are told unambiguously who God is.
If we look at passages that mention Father, Son, and holy spirit as proof that there is a triune God, then we are calling into question the truthfulness of Jesus's words at John 17:3.
Both the Father and the Son are involved in salvation, the Father sent the Son. The Father promised the holy spirit as a help and an anointing for Christians.
Hi Caledonian Boy, We appreciate your faith-filled commentary on John 17:3, but we can’t ignore John 8:58 where Jesus says: “Before Abraham was, I AM.” This clearly refers to Exodus 3:14 where God reveals his name to Moses, proclaiming “I AM WHO AM.” Jesus claims here not just kinship or even sonship but Oneness with God. This is even anticipated by the opening words of John’s gospel: “And the Word was God” (John1:1). These verses strikingly suggest the “consubstantial” nature of God and Jesus. Together God and Jesus share their Holy Spirit with us - sent by the Father in the Son’s name (John 14:26) - the same one God in that sending, and the same One God in that Spirit. One God in Three Divine Persons.
@@CatholicCentralVideos Thank you for replying to my post. I agree that we can't ignore other passages. However, if our interpretation of certain passages contradicts others then we have an issue.
What we have in John 17:3 is a clear statement of who the "only true God is" and although Jesus mentions himself in this verse he does not place himself in the category of "only true God" as he is addressing the Father in prayer. As a Bible believing Christian I would struggle with the idea that there could be others who are also the "only true God" after reading this statement from our Lord. Therefore I must consider John 8:58 and ask some questions.
Is it Justified by the translator to capitalize the most common pronoun/verb combination in any language and does "I am" accurately reflect what was said in Exodus 3:14?
The short answer is no. In the original Hebrew in which Moses wrote these words it translates as "I will prove to be". The LXX Greek renders this phrase as "I am the living one" or "I am the being" (ego eimi ho on) "I am" is not the name of God, it merely introduces the speaker who is the supreme being.
If Jesus said "I am the living one" then there would be an argument, he didn't.
What do you believe Jesus meant at John 17:3? Or even Pauls words at 1 Cor 8:6 where he said that the "one God" of Christians is the Father, only the Father?
@Caledonian Boy, we appreciate your participation but we’re not really sure that this is the best forum for the kind biblical scholarship that your serious and faith-filled investigation calls for. Please understand we both agree that there is only one God. For us, it is One God in Three Divine Persons. As for Jesus’s use of the Divine Name in John 8:58, you can contend that “Before Abraham was, I AM” should be translated “Before Abraham was, I am he (Jesus),” but this still suggests some kind of supernatural relationship to historical time that would send the reader back to John 1: 1-5 for a reboot. A majority of biblical scholars agree, in a delicate balance between Koine Greek grammar and Christian theology, that Jesus’ use of I AM in this and other instances signaled the Divine Name to the religious community of his time.
It’s important to remember that in Exodus 13: 14-15, God speaks his name in three different ways, not just one. Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh is the first way (“God replied: I AM WHO AM”); Ehyeh is the second (“This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you”); and the third is YHVH, the tetragrammaton (“Thus shall you say to the Israelites, the LORD, the God of your fathers… sent me to you”). The Greek Septuagint or LXX of the Old Testament translates these three iterations in a consistent way, and the Greek New Testament follows its lead. Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh is translated as “Ego eimi ho ohn,” Ejyeh by itself as “Ego eimi,” and YHVH as “Kyrios.” Thus both “Ego eimi ho ohn” and “Ego eimi” would have been recognized by speakers and readers of Koine Greek as the Divine Name. On a parallel point of grammar, it’s extremely rare in Koine Greek for “I am” to appear by itself without a predicate like “I am the Light of the world,” nor does a stand-alone “I am” grammatically imply a nominative as in “I am he.” Essentially scholars of ancient and biblical languages consider “Ego eimi” bad Greek, except in the sacred usage that we’re looking at here. So it’s no wonder that when Jesus uses the “Ego eimi” stand-alone form in comparing his lifespan to Abraham’s, his Jewish listeners accuse him of blasphemy for “making yourself God” (John 10:33). For the same reason, on the night of Jesus’ arrest, his use of “Ego eimi” explains why the guards of the chief priests and Pharisees “turned away and fell to the ground.” (John 18:6).
Hope this helps. Godspeed, we’ll be praying for you and please pray for us!
Does that mean Jesus is God? I know Jesus is referred as the son of God but if I'm not mistaken he is considered God incarnate. If Jesus is God, how can be God's son and how could he have been killed by humans?
Yes, Diana, that’s what they said at the crucifixion! “How could a real god allow himself to be killed?” The answer is that our Trinitarian God is uniquely Love Itself. Jesus doesn’t come among us just to preach but to physically become “no greater love” by dying on a cross, to reconcile us to him so we might live the whole range of human experience. After his resurrection he doesn’t rise in revenge against his killers, as any self-respecting omnipotent god would do, but instead he forgives and feeds and frees us all. How could Jesus have been killed by humans? Because Jesus, God Incarnate, was of two natures, fully God and fully human. It was the human, bodily Jesus who died on the cross. The divine Jesus, the Logos, “the Word who is God from the beginning” lived on because he is eternally God. (John 1:1-10) How can Jesus be God and also God’s son? We strain to break from our way of thinking about our earthly fathers and sons. The beauty and mystery of the Trinity is the love that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit have for each other, a self-giving sacrificial love so absolute that they while they remain distinct as three Divine Persons they are joined in a unity of substance as One God, each of the Persons wholly in each other. “God is Love” is John’s perfect summary of this eternal dance in which Jesus is both God and God's son (1 John 4:8). You’re right to see that this is not a predictable god-like god. We may not be able to “stuff the Trinity into our little brains,” as St Augustine predicted, but in the Trinity’s ecstatic embrace “we live and move and have our being.” (Acts 17:28). We invite you to watch our episodes "Who Is Jesus?" and "The Gospels" for further reflection.
Jesus came to this world for many reasons. One of them is to be sacrificed to pay for man's debts/sins. Man offended/sinned against God. The wages of sin is death. Man cannot pay the price for the sin he committed and was destined to die. For God's great love for man, He decided to pay the price Himself, came to this world to be the perfect sacrifice to pay man's debts. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb to mend our relationship with God.
Loved this teaching, keep it up yall!
Who seated at the left hand of God?
Virtually all ancient cultures, for various reasons, consider the right-hand side to be privileged over the left-hand side. The left hand is still considered undesirable in the Mideast. But since God has no literal hands, his “right hand” is metaphorically the place of holiness that Jesus occupies in heaven. Since nothing unholy can occupy heaven, God’s “left hand” is not invoked either in scripture or tradition. If we still seek to define the "left-hand" in some kind of Christian context, we can look to Michelangelo’s famous “Last Judgement” in the Vatican’s Sistine Chapel. In the center is Christ the Judge, and on his right-hand side is his mother Mary, the apostles and the saved, and on his left-hand side are the souls lost to their sins.
@@CatholicCentralVideos Thanks for you reply. If we fully believe in Trinity and accept Christ as God's equal then the Heavenly Father is seated on the "left side of God".
Hello again, Charles. Lest we fall into the historic trap of arguing about how many angels can dance on the tip of a needle, we should not get too intense about who stands on which side of a God who in fact has no sides and has been aptly described as an infinite circle whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere. Instead of trying to “fit our tiny little brains” into what the Trinity looks like (to quote the words of St Augustine from our opening sketch), we should instead be praying together that God will draw us into the Trinity’s eternal circle of love with every breath we take, exulting in the Luminous Mystery of a Triune God who is our joy, our peace and our salvation.
love God forever guys
Okay all these centuries all these, "analogies", and all they had to say it's three persons in one. Hundreds of years of word play just to say, three separate person but united...Ooh man and it sounds like something the Mormons have been saying clearly for at least a hundred years now. So can a Catholic please clarify, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all individual separate minds? If so that's still three separate gods, only united in cause or meaning/purpose, doesn't that still say you believe in three separate beings of god, regardless of how united they are in whatever way?
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You are right!
Our explanation is contained in the episode. But, if you go to the website, we do have additional resources (including one that deals with bad analogies) ... www.catholiccentral.com/catholic-central-episodes/trinity
@@random.user_2005 If it has confused people for centuries, then how can anyone understand it and establish a conviction given that a human lives for less than a century?
@@franco521 it has been studied by theologians for centuries. There have been some explanations. Shows the power of God its too great for us to fully understand. Btw iff u don't believe in God im not tryna be too 'preechy' or anything.
@@franco521 That's like saying we can't know anything at all since almost everything has been discussed for more than a century, even consciousness
What about FAMILY? 3 distinct person, but ONE family? Aren’t we “made in the image and likeness of God” - each one of us are a distinct person but partbof a family.
All analogies of the Trinity eventually fall short. By using "the family" to describe the Trinity, you can fall into the heresy of "Modalism" which suggests that God is one person who reveals Himself in three different modes or roles, similar to how a person can be a parent, a child, and a spouse within a family. This is contrary to orthodox Christian theology, which affirms that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct persons within the one Godhead.
It also limits our understanding of God by using a human quality or characteristic to describe God, who transcends human qualities. There are other reasons why this analogy falls short but we think these two are probably the strongest.
Say, "He is Allah, The Only One,
Allah, Who is in need of none and of Whom all are in need,
He has not begotten and has not been begotten,
And to Him none could be co-equal."
Though there are obvious differences in our theologies, we wish peace to our Muslim brothers and sisters.
@@CatholicCentralVideos thank you for your reply.. i believe that Islam is a continuation of Judaism and Christianity ( Catholics, orthodox..), we have the same divine source and we believe in Abraham moses and jesus and mohamed peace and blessings of God be upon them all..
God bless you and I hope peace will bring us all together in mutual love and respect!
A beautiful thought Samfisher Splinter, thank you. Peace be on you and the mercy and blessings of Allah.
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Hello!
A Catholic authority says that the Trinity "is not directly and immediately the Word of God." (New Catholic Encyclopedia) The Catholic Encyclopedia also comments: "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together." The New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is NOT taught in the Old Testament!"
Hi Sunny Johnson. Like the Bible itself, which took its final form at the Council of Rome in 382, the doctrine of the Trinity came together in the same century at the Council of Nicaea as an answer to the Arian Heresy which held that Jesus was neither divine nor eternal. The issue, then, of whether the Trinity was “in the bible” does not constitute a rebuttal of the doctrine, since at the same time that theologians were debating the nature of God, they were debating which of the books out of hundreds of available documents should be included in the Bible. In that sense a de-bunker could claim that “The Bible” itself is not even in the Bible!
The misunderstanding here is the insistence that the only valid source of literally-stated Christian doctrine is the Bible, forgetting that Christianity grew and thrived for centuries - longer than the United States has yet to exist - before the Bible emerged in its present form. For Catholics, this centuries-long period of liturgical, theological, and scriptural development is part of the Tradition (capital T) through which the teaching, life, and worship of the Christian community, communicated by Christ and the Apostles, is passed on to succeeding generations. A central part of that Tradition for millennia of mainstream Christianity has been the Trinity.
None of this implies that the Trinity is pure invention. Essential elements of what eventually became the doctrine are in fact contained in Scripture. In Genesis, the three most obvious pointers to the Trinity are God sending his “Spirit” over the waters (Gen 1:2), God’s reference to himself as “we” in the creation of humankind (Gen 1:26), and Abraham’s three visitors identified as “the Lord” in Genesis (Gen 18:1-2). Elsewhere throughout the Old Testament God is personified through the concepts of Word (dabar), Spirit (ruah) and Presence (shekinah). In a similar way, Jesus is not identified by name as “Jesus” in the Old Testament but is intimated in many passages, especially those in Isaiah. In the New Testament, the most explicit trinitarian texts, besides Christ’s world-shattering reference to himself as “I AM” (ego eimi) in John 18:5-6, there is the baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19, the benediction in 2 Corinthians 13:14, the account of Jesus’s baptism in Matthew 3:16-17, the fragments of prayer in Galatians 4:6 and Romans 8:5, and the description of the whole economy of salvation in Ephesians 1: 3-14. The purpose of searching the Scriptures for God’s triune mystery is not to find passages that contain “three” names, but to discover those that testify to the saving works of God who redeems through Christ by the power of the Spirit. We have several videos you may want to watch that speak to this subject - “The History of the Church” and “The Bible” are two such episodes. For others, check our Guide to the whole series using the links provided on our TH-cam channel as well as on the website, catholiccentral.com.
The Trinity isn't taught in the New Testament either.
God is already complete. But bec God loves us, God the Father sent Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. Giving life and love will not save us! It is giving our lives to Jesus completely saves us.
It’s a mystery because it doesn’t make sense. God is one. No prophet taught of a trinity that is not even the teaching of Jesus peace be upon him
Hi Rami Ramadan, there is a lot in the Bible (and the Quran) that doesn't "make sense," which is precisely why we call it a mystery and what it means to have faith. Though a full understanding of exactly HOW the Trinity is the Trinity is still a mystery too big to "squeeze into our little brains," the Catholic tradition finds strong evidence of the Trinity in the New Testament. When Jesus identifies himself as "I AM" in the Gospel of John 18:6, he is using the same language as God does in Exodus 3:14 when Yahweh tells Moses what name to call him. Jesus uses "I AM" six other times in this Gospel, clearly identifying himself with the Deity. For as many times, the same Gospel describes the intimate interaction of God the Father and God the Son with the Holy Spirit, named in the Quran as the one who gives life to Adam and whose power allows Mary to conceive Jesus. In Genesis, the first book of the Hebrew Bible, God refers to himself using the pronouns "us" and "our" - "Let us make man in our image and likeness" (Genesis 1:26), and "The man has now become one of us" (Genesis 3:22). Catholics witness these and other references in Holy Scripture as testimony to the Trinitarian nature of God.
We have faith that we will fully and completely "make sense" of God's mysterious nature when we join him in Paradise. For now, regardless of how it may seem to our brothers and sisters of the Muslim and Jewish faiths, we believe all our voices join in praise and thanksgiving for the same true God, for there is only One.
The Lord is NOT the author of confusion.... Read your bible
Hi FROZE lion, we never said he was.
The father and Jesus have two different forms. They each have two different Bodies that love each other so much they come together as one. The Bible says Jesus sits on the right side of God therefore it's not one body. Jesus said you have to go through me to get to the father. The Bible had fo Many verses making it clear he is the son. What he meant by when you seen him you seen the father is he speaks for his father.
@knowledgeseeker7578 Catholics emphasize the unity of the Trinity while acknowledging the distinct persons within it and the role of Jesus as the Son and mediator between humanity and God. According to Catholic beliefs, the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons in one Godhead. The concept is often expressed as "three persons, one God." In response to the idea that the Father and Jesus have two different forms, the Catholic Church teaches that the Father and the Son are distinct persons but share the same divine essence. They are not separate entities with separate bodies, but rather different persons within the unity of the Godhead.
Jesus sitting on the right side of God is consistent with biblical imagery found in passages such as Psalm 110:1 and Mark 16:19. But please note that this symbolic language used to convey the exalted status of Jesus at the right hand of the Father. It gives us a sense of his importance.
The statement "you have to go through me to get to the Father" is often understood in the context of Jesus being the mediator between humanity and God. In Catholic theology, Jesus is seen as the way, the truth, and the life, and through belief in Him, individuals can have access to the Father. Through the person of Jesus, we can see the divinity the Father. The affirmation that Jesus is the Son of God is a fundamental tenet of Christian faith, including Catholicism. This is supported by various biblical verses, such as John 3:16, where Jesus is referred to as the "only Son." The explanation that when you have seen Jesus, you have seen the Father is in line with the words of Jesus himself in John 14:9. It emphasizes the intimate relationship between the Father and the Son, suggesting that Jesus perfectly reveals the nature and will of the Father.
@@CatholicCentralVideos all I am saying when you die there will be two different people the creator and Jesus they love each other so much that they come together as one
As a muslim I believe Jesus (Isa) was a propeht and not the son of God.
1. Say, “He is God, the One.
2. God, the Absolute.
3. He begets not, nor was He begotten.
4. And there is nothing comparable to Him.”
Thanks for commenting! But, in Catholic Central, we are explaining the teachings of the Catholic Church, which may or may not be the same as teachings of other Christian groups or other faiths. But glad to hear your perspective!
@@CatholicCentralVideos Bismillahi-Rahmani-Rahim. Peace and Blessings to you Catholic Central. I would love to give you a Sufi Muslim perspective on the Trinity, if for no other reason than to illustrate similarities and differences to you. G_d (Allah) is Triune but NOT in the conventional Trinitarian sense. G_d is comprised of Three "Stages" of Being, which we shall label 1A, 1B, and 1C. 1A is G_d Before The In The Beginning. Here G_d is Pure Potential. He is an absolute Essence unknowable and unfathomable. He is unbound by time and space as he transcends time and space. In Sufi Islamic terminology we the word HU (He) to denote God in the Before the Beginning Stage. Interestingly, the Hebrew and Aramaic Word for He is also Hu. In Christian verbiage, this 1A is termed God the Father. Upon self-reflecting and emanation occurred which begot 1B. This stage is God in the Beginning. In the Beginning, Stage emerged the Divine Light. This light is the product of Hu's self-reflection. This Light is sentient and a Being. The Light praises Hu as his eternal creator because he was begotten from him. In Sufi Islam, the term used for this is "Nur al-Muhammad" which literally translates to ¨ The Light of the Praiseworthy One." There are many names used to refer to this light, some of them include, Messiah, Nous, Aql-i-Kull, Muhammad, Nur Allah, Christ, Universal Consciousness, Divine Mind, etc. Perhaps the one most familiar to you is "The Son," being that it is the most widely used expression of 1B among the Christian community. Just as 1A self-reflected (think Mitosis from biology), creating 1B, 1C emerged in the same manner. 1C is what I call "The Ever-Present Happening" The result of this emanation is the Divine Spirit. This is called Ruh-e-Qudus, Holy Spirit, Spirit of Guidance, Holy Ghost, etc. The Spirit is that which interacts with humanity in the form of Divine Intuition, Prophetic Revelations, etc. The difference between the Sufi Islamic perspective and the Christian perspective is that Christian theology describes the Trinity as three separate and distinct persons. In Sufi Islam, we regard them as Three Process of a Singular Action. The best metaphor I can muster is the Ocean. Note that the Wave, Crest, and Trough are not separate entities but together they comprise the singular action of the One Ocean. Likewise, a Sufi Muslim, and admittedly many Christian Mystics within the Catholic Tradition as well (John the Cross, Teresa Avila, etc.) regard God as comprising three eternal stages of a singular Being. I hope you found this explanation as interesting a topic as I do. I pray to the Lord our G_d that you all are well and safe. And I wish to thank you for allowing me this space to share this cosmological and theological perspective with you and your audience. Amin
Quhu Allahu Ahad Allahu Samad Ya wa lim wa lan yu had, wa lam wa kul wa hu kufu wan ahad
@@raymondfranklin348 ameen
There is an older holy trinity in the Hindu religion, a religion that is much older than Christianity. I guess Christianity "borrowed" the concept from Hinduism.
Trimūrti ( "three forms" or "trinity") is the triple deity of supreme divinity in Hinduism, in which the cosmic functions of creation, maintenance, and destruction are personified as a triad of deities, typically Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer, the manifestation of the supreme God in three forms of Brahma,Vishnu, and Shiva.
The identification of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva as one being is strongly emphasized in the Kūrma Purāṇa.
Namaste! Because the Hindu trinity is polytheistic, the underpinning of its theology and philosophy is different from that of the monotheist Trinity of Christianity. At the same time, Hindus share with Catholics a sense of the sacramentality of the world - the indwelling sacredness of all creation that calls forth our reverence for each other and all living things, and in the cosmos beyond. The Church recognizes Hinduism in a special way for its commitment to world peace. Also, we're not sure that "borrowed" holds up under historic scrutiny, but Catholics take seriously the passage in John 1:3 that all things were made through Christ. Just as rituals in early human history trace the pattern of Christ's death and rebirth, so would early trinitarian formulations bear the shape of Christ's Godhead. “In the past,” St Paul writes, “God spoke in partial and various ways….” (Hebrews 1: 10) Thanks, C Nault, for your interfaith comment.
@@CatholicCentralVideos The Hindu trinity is 3 separate deities who are also at the same time a single deity.
"Also, we're not sure that "borrowed" holds up under historic scrutiny"
The Hindu religious texts are older than the Bible's new testament. This is historical fact. And there are religions older than Christianity that have virgin births.
Would you prefer plagiarized over borrowed?
Thanks for the clarification on the nature of Hindu Trinity, C Nault, we were trying to indicate how it plays out differently in the larger setting of polytheism. We do understand that the Hindu Trinity precedes the Christian Trinity in historical time, but correlation does not imply causation. As we noted in our first reply, Catholics believe that the Christic principle of Trinity inherent in the Logos, through whom all things were made, existed consubstantially with God “from the beginning” (John 1:1-3). Its “divine trajectory” through human history (to use the language of theologian Teilhard de Chardin) can be traced by Catholics not only in the Hindu Trinity but in other manifestations such as the Triple Goddess of the Celts and the Three Sisters of a number of North American indigenous peoples. From this perspective, none of the varied articulations of the divine archetype are “borrowed” or "plagiarized” in the conventional sense you are implying. The same holds true regarding virgin births and sons of god appearing in primitive cults, as we mentioned earlier. Please believe we make these distinctions in the spirit of Vatican II: “The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in other religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect that Truth which enlightens all people.” (Nostra Aetate, 3)
@@CatholicCentralVideos "“The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in other religions."
Exactly what is the Catholic Church's criteria for deciding what is true and holy in other religions?
What is the Catholic Church's position on Wicca?
In answer to your first question, the criterion of Jesus for the Church and for all of us when gazing on "the other" is love, because God is love (1 John 4:8). But it is unclear if you are engaging us sincerely, C Nault, especially with your second question about the Catholic position on Wicca, which obviously anybody can answer. Please realize that our purpose in this series is not to engage others in rivalries. We are interested only in presenting our Catholic faith so that others can understand us. Whatever position they ultimately take on our beliefs we respect in the spirit of our common inheritance as children of God. We are not in this to score points or prove that we are right and others are wrong. In your case we have answered your original question about the Trinity with all the resources at our disposal and if you are not satisfied with our answer there is nothing more we can offer. We are not interested in a sparring match or submitting to a series of random and trivial questions. We wish you Godspeed on whatever path you are on, and conclude our conversation with another quote from Vatican II to remind you that it is almost always possible, if good faith is observed on all sides, to find more that we have in common than in what divides us.
"From ancient times down to the present, there is found among various peoples a certain perception of that hidden power which hovers over the course of things and over the events of human history; at times some indeed have come to the recognition of a Supreme Being, or even of a Father. This perception and recognition penetrates their lives with a profound religious sense. Religions, however, that are bound up with an advanced culture have struggled to answer the same questions by means of more refined concepts and a more developed language. Thus in Hinduism, men contemplate the divine mystery and express it through an inexhaustible abundance of myths and through searching philosophical inquiry. They seek freedom from the anguish of our human condition either through ascetical practices or profound meditation or a flight to God with love and trust." (Nostra Aetate, 2-3)
Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the Catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.
Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.
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Ok, One god we can find that in the bible.
Three equal but of different functions persons Father , Son , and Holy Spirit each God but not the other. Bible
God is Love. Bible
The Father is in the Son but not the Son. This is in the Bible
The Holy Spirit is in us. This is in the Bible.
The Father is Spirit and the Holy Spirit is Spirit. This is in the bible.
The son is not Spirit and has Mind, soul, body, and Spirit (The Father) as we have.
Christians have Mind soul body and Spirits (Holy Spirit)
We can talk to the Son and Father in him and he can speak directly to us.
We receive the Holy Spirit upon belief in Jesus as our lord and savior with the Light. In the bible.
The Father can not be seen but his Light can be. In the bible.
The holy Spirit can not be seen but can be felt as a wind. In the bible.
I don't understand why people say there is a difference between Catholic Trinity and others. Is there not only one trinity basis and understanding?
The Trinity
Soul Body Spirit
Father Son H. Spirit
Thats why were made in his image too, we have all 3.
1 Thessalonians 5:23
King James Version
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Isaiah, thank you for this beautiful reflection
Science best explains it. God is the same as energy. Energy exists in different states but is always energy. Potential energy + kinetic energy = mechanical motion. So... Potential energy is Gods WILL outside of time and existence in a place we can never reach (god). Kinetic energy is God in motion interacting with the universe in time and the existence we live because this kinetic energy is inside every part of his living moving creation including our life essence (holy spirit). And the mechanical motion of god's will in our life is (jesus). Jesus was the ultimate move on god's part to make lasting action on our FREE will. Sure god can do everything but is unattainable and it's only our FREE WILL that enables us to reach him. How you say? Jesus - God made flesh. Without God made flesh as man there was no way we could have a personal relationship and comprehend God. Without Jesus God is distant and impossible to comprehend. As man god met us on our level and had impact that was tangible and far reaching creating a way we can reach god in the afterlife. Focus on a comprehendible God (Jesus) and he will shepherd you to the unattainable realm of God outside of existence as the holy spirit leaves you in your last days. Because rearrange the equation and you have:
God =Jesus - holy spirit
So focus on Jesus as the holy spirit leaves you and you will reach God (God the father).
Science!
Hi Keith, thanks for reminding us how Jesus, "God made flesh," is our divine gateway. Thanks too for your "scientific" model of Trinity. It reminds us of the model that uses the water molecule H2O: solid (ice), vapor (steam) and liquid (water) - three distinct forms of H2O, one and the same H2O substance. The problem is that models using these bio-physical phenomena (energy, H20, shamrock, etc) don't include the consciousness, free will, and eternal exchange of love that make the three Divine Persons a living Unity. Meantime we're pretty sure science would say that giving divine names to energy-states is not "science." That being said, models (or analogies) of Trinity including yours are still helpful despite their limitations, especially if they help us better appreciate, in your words, how Jesus "the man-God met us on our level and had impact that was tangible and far reaching..."
Quattro not Trinity
Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the TREE OF LIFE and eat, and live forever."
That was Jesus in the Garden of Eden as the Tree of Life - remember he's the one who bears the fruit of life.
It is not Trinity but "Quattro" - Father, Son, Holy Spirit and the Tree of life.
Eve rejected Jesus in the Garden of Eden, she chose the fruit of knowledge.
We expect our kids to follow Eve - pursue worldly knowledge and university degrees because it brings us respect, wealth and status.
The tree of life is still standing there in plain sight - just like it stood in the Garden of Eden - Jesus.
He is still rejected today by many. Teach your kids to eat from the tree of life.
Also save trees, plant trees and preserve the Earth, make it green. ☘️ ☘️
Disclosure: I have 3 University degrees and was pursuing for more when the Lord opened my eyes.
The Holy Trinity its to The Bible, what The Federal Reserve Bank its to the American Constitution.
If it makes any sense.
We understand your analogy, but have you really watched our episode? Your comment required nothing more of you than to glance at the title. If you have specifics, we would welcome them. You also might look at the comments, which address the issues you seem to be implying.
Allah said in Qur'an
: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
Hi One United Nation 1, we welcome you, and thank you for adding your voice to our conversation. You quote chapter five of the Qur’an and there is a slight misunderstanding involved in what is being said. While the Qur’an says that we identify Mary as a deity, we do not. This is a common misconception that is shared by many. Catholics look to Mary as a saint and, as the mother of Jesus, a saint that has a close connection to her son. This son, Jesus, we look to not as a separate deity from God and not as a prophet - as your faith celebrates him, but as God incarnate (made flesh). We do not see Jesus and God as two Gods but (with the inclusion of the Holy Spirit) as one God.
Gnostics said Jesus didn't come in the flesh because flesh is always sin . . Gnostics taught sin nature..that all flesh is always sin.. so you cannot stop sinnng. .. doctrine of sin nature is heresy.. is your church Gnostic and false?...,do the teach " sin nature" ?
Augustine heresy
The Catholic Church is not Gnostic and does not teach that the flesh is inherently sinful. Instead, it upholds the goodness of creation and the reality of the Incarnation. The doctrine of original sin, influenced by Augustine, emphasizes the fallen state of human nature while maintaining that humans can overcome sin through divine grace. Gnosticism, with its dualistic worldview and denial of the Incarnation, has been consistently rejected by the Church as heretical.
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It has been said of Augustine that ‘his approach to solving the problem of evil shaped his whole theological vision’.6 Initially, this was in response to his past in Manichaeism, which ‘has a dualist worldview that maintains that good and evil are two equally fundamental realities in eternal opposition’.7 It is within this context that his doctrine of original sin is best located.
Anthony Smith Augustine on sin
The Catholic Church acknowledges Augustine's significant contribution to Christian theology, particularly his efforts to address the problem of evil and his formulation of the doctrine of original sin. Augustine's past in Manichaeism indeed shaped his theological inquiries, but his mature Christian doctrine fundamentally rejects the dualistic worldview. Instead, it emphasizes the goodness of creation, the privation theory of evil, and the necessity of divine grace for overcoming sin and achieving salvation. The Church continues to hold Augustine's teachings in high regard while integrating them into a broader, orthodox theological framework.
@@CatholicCentralVideos Gnostics matter is sin ... spirit is sinless
The Church teaches that all of creation, including the material world, is good because it was created by God. Human beings are a unity of body and soul, both of which are inherently good, though affected by original sin. The Church upholds the Incarnation of Jesus Christ, who took on human flesh, affirming the goodness of the material world. Catholic sacramental theology further demonstrates that material elements can be channels of divine grace. Thus, Catholicism stands in clear opposition to Gnostic dualism and affirms the inherent goodness of both matter and spirit.
For one man the Holy Trinity is Father, Son & Spirit. For another, Father, Son & KJV. 😜
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The trinity is false
1.Hebrews 1:5 tells us that Jesus was begotten by His Father. Did He beget Himself?
2. In Matthew 22:44, the Father said Jesus would sit at His right hand until His enemies were made His footstool. Was Jesus to sit at His own right hand?
3. In Matthew 24:36, when Jesus told His disciples that no one knows the day or hour of His return but the Father only, did He really know but made up an excuse to not tell them?
4. In John 14:28, Jesus said His Father was greater than He was. Does this mean He was greater than Himself
"The Father and I are one" Jn 10:30
The trinity was not mentioned once by Jesus or the early Apostles this is a man made doctrine along with other false teachings the Catholic Church are famous for !
WWJD, thanks for your comment and for tuning in. There is wide acceptance among Christians of many denominations of the validity of “Trinitarian baptism.” They base their belief on Christ’s own invocation of the Holy Trinity in Matthew 28:18-20: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” It’s hard to conclude from this that the Trinity is a later invention by his followers.
Catholic Central , If all the baptisms in the book of Acts we’re done in the name of Jesus Christ then it’s quiet legitimate to ask where the scripture in Matthew came from with this later trinitarian formula !
Your question, WWJD, was whether the Trinity was ever mentioned once by either Jesus or the Apostles. We Christians accept the Gospel of Matthew as an inspired text, so disregarding it is problematic. Acts and Matthew were written roughly around the same time, between 70 and 90 AD, and by the year 100 a text called the Didache records that trinitarian baptism had by then become a standard practice in the growing church.
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how could one god be three different persons at the same time, I feel like your statement of truth shouldn't be an oxymoron, and if its really the truth then how is it so hard to justify it with the scriptures. I think if you have to explain the trinity with an egg that it's probably not true.
The idea of the Trinity is not only a Catholic belief but one that is a main tenet of many Protestant faiths as well. It is the belief that God exists as three persons in one essence which we call “Father”, “Son”, and “Holy Spirit.” The idea of the Trinity may be one of the hardest things to understand in Christian theology. While not perfect, the Church has tried to explain this mystery using theological language and analogies, but no description even approaches being an accurate one. Fully comprehending the nature of the Trinity is beyond our capacity to understand.
In addressing the idea that God can be three persons, the Catholic Church emphasizes that the Trinity is a mystery that can best be approached through revelation and faith. The idea that the Trinity is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and yet are the same divine essence is expressed in scripture, such as Matthew 28:19, where Jesus tells his disciples to “…make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”
Analogies are often used to illustrate the concept, but they all fall short in capturing the full depth of the mystery. The egg analogy, for example, where the shell, egg white, and yolk represent the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit respectively, is one such attempt. While analogies can help convey certain aspects of the Trinity, they are ultimately limited and can lead to misunderstandings if taken too literally. The Church holds that the Trinity is a revealed truth, and while human reason can explore it to a certain extent, complete comprehension is not achievable. The acceptance of the Trinity is based on faith in the revelation given in the Scriptures and the teachings of the Church. The difficulty in explaining the Trinity is grounded in the acknowledgment of its mysterious nature, reliance on revelation, and the acceptance that certain aspects of God's nature may surpass human understanding.
@@CatholicCentralVideos DID Jesus himself ever teach that GOD ALMIGHTY is 3 in 1?
@@14-Peaks Yes, we believe Jesus did teach that. In MT 28:19 he says: Go, therefore,[a] and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. He also in JN 10:30, he says, "The Father and I are one." There are numerous other Scriptural references that we could quote, but we think these two are enough.
@@CatholicCentralVideos you stated-Matthew 28:19-20
"he says: Go, therefore,[a] and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"
WHERE IS JESUS PREACHING ABOUT GOD ALMIGHTY AS 3 in 1 here ?????????
In the stated verse, Where is Jesus teaching that the Father is equal to the SON, the Son equal to the Father and the holy spirit equal to the Father??????????????????
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you also stated-John 10:30, he says, "The Father and I are one."
WHEN JESUS SAYS HE AND THE FATHER ARE ONE, Jesus meant one in purpose/message as whatever Jesus taught/preached was from the Father(GOD ALMIGHTY). We also know that Jesus only followed Father's command.
In John 7:16, Jesus says: "My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me."
In John 5:30: Jesus says: "I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me."
Jesus said he could not do anything of his own will.
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YOU CLAIMED-"Yes, we believe Jesus did teach GOD ALMIGHTY is 3 in 1"
TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM- Firstly, CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW IN THE BIBLE WHERE JESUS HIMSELF CLAIM TO BE DIVINE or equal to the Father????????
@@CatholicCentralVideos you stated-Matthew 28:19-20
"he says: Go, therefore,[a] and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"
WHERE IS JESUS PREACHING ABOUT GOD ALMIGHTY AS 3 in 1 here ?????????
In the stated verse, Where is Jesus teaching that the Father is equal to the SON, the Son equal to the Father and the holy spirit equal to the Father??????????????????
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you also stated 10:30, he says, "The Father and I are one."
WHEN JESUS SAYS HE AND THE FATHER ARE ONE, Jesus meant one in purpose/message as whatever Jesus taught/preached was from the Father(GOD ALMIGHTY). We also know that Jesus only followed Father's command.
In John 7:16, Jesus says: "My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me."
In John 5:30: Jesus says: "I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me."
Jesus said he could not do anything of his own will.
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YOU CLAIMED-"Yes, we believe Jesus did teach GOD ALMIGHTY is 3 in 1"
TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM- Firstly, CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW IN THE BIBLE WHERE JESUS HIMSELF CLAIM TO BE DIVINE or equal to the Father????????
Do you know the meaning of the word immortal? Do you believe that Almighty God is immortal? His Word says that He is so Jesus can't be the Almighty God, Jesus died and needed to be resurrected! Who resurrected Jesus? The Almighty God did, Acts 2:24! Just imagine what Satan and the demons would have done if the Almighty God was dead in the grave for three days! Satan is misleading the entire inhabited earth, Revelation 12:9! Soon at Armageddon all those who are teaching and believing lies about the Almighty, His Word and His Son will be destroyed! Psalms 92:7; Psalm 37:9-11! We must worship the Father with spirit and truth in order to receive everlasting life and the blessings that God has promised, John 4:22-24; Isaiah 42:8; Psalms 83:18!
Hi carol Mueller. As Catholics ,we believe Jesus was truly God but also truly man. His human body died but was resurrected through God’s power. But Christ’s eternal, divine nature did not die. If we believe our immortal souls don’t perish on bodily death, why should we be surprised that God Himself did not perish along with His human form? Otherwise, Christ would not have been truly human, it would have just been an illusion.
There is an abundance of Scriptural evidence that states Jesus is God. The very first line of the Gospel of John makes this connection very clear: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (Jn 1:1) The rest of the first chapter continues to make this connection. In John 10:30, Jesus states “The Father and I are one.” That is also a clear statement about who Jesus was. Regarding his time in the tomb, as Catholics, we believe that Jesus used that time to descend into Hell (please see the “Apostles Creed” a foundational prayer to most Christian religions) to free the souls that were trapped there. As God, he knew the Devil had no power over him.
Our time and time in general will eventually come to an end. God will judge us for what we did on this earth - did we love as he taught us to love? All of us who follow the teachings of Christ should be united in that thought rather than focusing on how our traditions are different. Remember in Mark 9:38-40, the apostles came back to Jesus complaining that another person was driving out demons in His name. They tried to “…prevent him because he does not follow us.” Do you remember Jesus’ reply? “Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me. For whoever is not against us is for us.” As Christians, shouldn’t we all embrace that last line?
the trinity is of the anti christ for it denies who the Father is as the bible says the head of Christ is God meaning they are not equal 1 cor 11:3
Hey @Brethren Lee, check out the words of Jesus in John 8:58: “Before Abraham was, I AM.” Jesus is referring his shocked listeners back to the Old Testament, when Moses asks God what his name is and God replies: “I AM WHO AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I AM sent me to you.’” (Exodus 3:14) So when Jesus calls himself I AM he’s not only saying he is equal to God, he’s saying that he and God are the same. This is why the Church calls God the Father and God the Son “consubstantial” - the same being and substance. Also remember how John begins his Gospel with a description of God and Jesus (the Word, or “Logos” in Greek): “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (John 1:1)
@@CatholicCentralVideos are you saying no to the God of Jesus ?
Colossians 1 shows that Jesus is the creator of All things.
Colossians 1:15 and 16 says that by means of the Son, the firstborn of every creature, all things were created. When it says "all things", does that mean Jesus is God because nothing existed before Jesus? No. Verse 16 says that all things were created _by_ Jesus Christ, or _through_ Jesus Christ. When it says "all things were created by him", it is understood that this does not include God himself. Paul said something similar in 1 Corinthians 15:27, 28. There it states that God put all things under Jesus' feet. Does that mean that God is also under Jesus’ feet? Paul clarifies in verse 27: "But when he says all things have been subjected, it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him."
@@jollyrancher521 The verse clearly says Jesus created ALL THINGS. You have to try to reinterpret what it clearly says. This proves that Jesus is equal with God the Father in nature. Good job.
@@timothys4864 In Colossians 1:15, Jesus is called the Firstborn of all creation. He was the first of all God's creations. Jesus was "begotten" by God, or produced by God. Revelation 3:14 refers to Jesus as "the beginning of the creation by God." The Greek word "arkhe" in Revelation 3:14 means “beginning”. John uses various forms of "arkhe" more than 20 times, and they always have the common meaning of “beginning.” God the Father, on the other hand, does not have a beginning. (Psalm 90:2) 1 Corinthians 8:6 states, "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." Jesus is rightly called Lord since God is the one who made him Lord (Acts 2:36) and exalted him to the highest position (Phil 2:9) and gave him all authority over heaven and earth (Mat. 28:18), but Jesus is not the same as Almighty God. Jesus even refers to his Father on more than one occasion as "my God". (John 20:17, Rev 3:12) In John 17:3, Jesus called his Father in heaven "the only true God."
"You cant understand the trinity".... *3 seconds later* "well if god is love, then he must be a community of beings, its the only thing that makes sense" ... Riiight. Okay.
Libby is describing what the Trinity is - a community of persons. St Augustine is describing how hard it is for our brains to grasp that -- how a community of three persons can still be one undivided being. The episode attempts to unpack this mystery as much as it's possible for language to do.
The presenters are honest enough to admit that according to the catholic Church the Trinity is a "mystery." Of course, many Catholic reference works go further and admit that the doctrine of the Trinity is not explicitly taught in scripture but was developed in post Apostolic times.In other words, it is not a biblical teaching but developed in later centuries.Now surely if it was really that important and the basic teaching of Christianity, Jesus, the NT writers should have been spelling it out clearly to us. But no. They are silent.We have to wait until a later period when Christians educated in Neo-Platonism took pagan ideas and imposed it on "Christianity.". And hey presto, we get the Trinity. Now we simply have to project the Trinity back into scripture and claim that this is what he Bible taught all along. Yes, let us ignore the fact that Moses and the prophets knew nothing of the Trinity. Let's ignore the fact that the Jews who worshiped the God of the OT knew nothing of the Trinity. Let's ignore the fact that the claim of the NT writers was that Jesus was the promised Messiah (not God). But they say history is written by the winners and in this case they are right.
This might be helpful. www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/catholic-doctrine-on-the-holy-trinity.html
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THE WORD SPIRIT IS INTERCHANGABLE TO THE WORD MIND.
SO WHEN IT SAYS THE SPIRIT OF GOD BASICALLY IT MEANS THE MIND OF GOD..(I DONT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY)
Genesis 41:7-8, Pharaoh awoke, and, behold, it was a dream. And it came to pass in the morning
that his spirit was troubled; PHARAOH'S MIND WAS TROUBLED
1 Corinthians 2:11 King James Version (KJV)
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit (MIND) of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God (MIND OF GOD)
THE FATHER IS GOD
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD ( ONLY BEGOTTEN SON) NOT GOD THE SON
THE SPIRIT OF GOD IS THE MIND OF GOD EXPRESS THROUGH THE SON....NOT GOD THE SPIRIT
The interpretation you've presented regarding the interchangeability of the words "spirit" and "mind" in certain contexts is one perspective, but it's important to recognize that it deviates from traditional Christian understanding, particularly within Catholic theology. Within Catholicism and most branches of Christianity, the concept of the Trinity is central to understanding the nature of God. The Trinity holds that God is one Being existing in three distinct Persons: The Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Each Person is fully God, yet they are distinct from one another.
Regarding your interpretation of Genesis 41:7-8 and 1 Corinthians 2:11, while it's true that the word "spirit" can sometimes refer to the inner workings of the mind or the essence of a person's being, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's interchangeable with the word "mind" in every instance, especially when discussing the nature of God. In Genesis 41:7-8, Pharaoh's spirit being troubled can indeed be understood as his mind being troubled. However, this doesn't mean that every mention of "spirit" in the Bible can be reduced to merely referring to the mind.
In 1 Corinthians 2:11, the verse speaks about how the spirit (or mind) of man knows the things of man, and similarly, only the Spirit of God (or mind of God) knows the things of God. This doesn't negate the traditional Christian understanding of the Holy Spirit as a distinct Person within the Trinity who possesses divine attributes and knowledge.
Regarding your perspective on the Trinity, Catholic teaching holds that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are co-equal and co-eternal, each fully God in their own right. Jesus Christ is not considered merely the Son of God but is also understood to be fully divine, sharing in the divine nature of the Father. The Holy Spirit, likewise, is not seen as merely an expression of the mind of God but as a distinct Person who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
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THIS IS WHY I NOT A TRINITARIAN ANYMORE , BECAUSE ITS ALL TRADITION , NO BIBLICAL EVIDANCE
THE BIBLE SAY THAT THERE IS ONE GOD THE FATHER AND HE HAS A SON NAME JESUS.
1 COR8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Dear @godmichael2534 if you are looking for scriptural (Biblical) evidence regarding the Trinity, we can point out several but, in the interest of brevity, we will use the following five:
1. Genesis 1:26: In this verse, God says, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness," implying a plurality within the Godhead involved in the creation of humanity.
2. Matthew 28:19: This verse is often cited as evidence of the Trinity as it records Jesus instructing his disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, indicating the threefold nature of God.
3. 2 Corinthians 13:14: The apostle Paul's benediction invokes the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, reflecting the three Persons of the Trinity.
4. John 1:1-14: This passage, known as the prologue to the Gospel of John, describes the Word (Jesus) being with God in the beginning and being God. It also speaks of the Word becoming flesh, indicating the incarnation of Jesus, who is part of the Godhead.
5. John 10:30: Jesus declares, "I and the Father are one," suggesting the unity and shared divinity between Jesus and the Father.
There are other passages throughout both the Old and New Testaments that contribute to the understanding of the Trinity. Catholic theology emphasizes that while the doctrine of the Trinity may be complex and mysterious, it is foundational to Christian faith and is supported by the entirety of Scripture, as well as the early tradition of the Church.
How can mere mortals be so arrogant as to try and 'define' or 'explain' the true nature of God! The biggest mistake that the 'church' made was to be 'dazzled' by the 'wisdom' & cleverness' of the 'church fathers' who mostly were educated & wealthy PHILOSOPHERS! Paul had warned the brothers Not to heed the 'philosophies of men' ( Col 2:8) Remember too that the apostles who gave us the NT were "Unlettered and ordinary men" They preached that there is just "One God & Father of all persons who is overall" (Eph 4:6) and that Jesus Christ was NOT 'God the son' ( no bible verse says this!) but the Son of God as John summed up in his gospel ( read John 20:31) Amen
Your comment reflects a common perspective among some who critique the influence of Greek philosophy on Christian theology, particularly within the Catholic tradition. You are concerned with human attempts to define or explain the nature of God and suggest that the early Church may have been misguided by the influence of educated and wealthy philosophers. We, as Catholics, do believe in the Bible being the revealed Word of God. All faith traditions have spent the last couple of millennia interpreting that revealed Word, it is less a question of arrogance and more a need to try to understand. The citation of Colossians 2:8, where Paul warns against being captivated by "philosophies of men," is often used to caution against reliance on human wisdom alone in matters of faith. Similarly, the reference to the apostles as "unlettered and ordinary men" underscores the idea that the message of Christianity is not dependent on human intellect or education, but on divine revelation.
The assertion that Jesus Christ is not referred to as "God the Son" in the Bible is a point of theological contention. While the exact phrase "God the Son" may not be explicitly stated in Scripture, the concept of Jesus as divine, co-eternal, and consubstantial with the Father is central to orthodox Christian doctrine and is supported by numerous passages throughout the New Testament, not the least of which is the beginning of the Gospel of John where we read that “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.” “…and the Word became flesh.” (Jn 1:1,14)
In response to this perspective, Catholics affirm the importance of respecting the mystery and transcendence of God while also recognizing the role of human reason in seeking to understand divine revelation. We think philosophical engagement can enrich theological reflection and deepen our understanding of God's nature, as long as it remains in harmony with Scripture and tradition.
@@CatholicCentralVideos Thank you very much for your excellent reply! I feel we are surely on the 'same hymn book' are we not? Look You mentione that the bible suggests that Jesus is 'divine'! Of course he is, I fully agree with you! Just as I DONT agree with Athanansius, I also DONT agree with Arius! I feel they were BOTH wrong! Look Col 2:9 in most 'trinitarian' based bibles reads 'godhead', the original greek word is; THEIOTES' which literally means 'of divine quaality'. (The word 'godhead' used sooften by 'trinitarians' was coined by John Wycliffe in the 13 century!) Thus Jesus is DIVINE! Does this means he is the Almighty God? No for 2 Peter 2:4 uses exactly the same word when revealing the destiny of the saints in heaven!) Will they also be 'God'? No but share with Christ his uniwue sonship! They are always called 'brothers' of Christ' thus'sons' of God! So I do NOT believe that Jesus was CREATED as Arius wrongly taught. If we just believe what JESUS HIMSELF said about himself, "I am God's ONY BEGOTTEN SON" ( John 3:16,17). I sitcck with what Jesus said!
Hi @kiwihans100, we are glad that you feel that we are all “reading from the same hymn book” and we could not agree more. If we all concentrated on what we agree on rather than on what we disagree on, the world would be a better place. You make some compelling points in your discussion, and we would like to rebut them. Your response is one that diverges from several Catholic and Mainstream Protestant positions, especially regarding the understanding of our concept of Trinity and the Nature of Jesus Christ. When it comes to the Trinity, Catholic theology, along with many other Christian traditions, affirms the doctrine of the Trinity, which teaches that there is one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ, as well as the Holy Spirit, is foundational to this doctrine, which you know but we are stating this for others who may be reading.
Colossians 2:9: While the Greek word "theiotes" is indeed translated as "divine nature" or "Godhead" (which shows up at least a hundred years before your citation) in some translations, it's essential to interpret this verse considering the broader context of Scripture and the Church's tradition. Catholic theology understands Jesus as fully divine, sharing in the same essence or nature as the Father, which is why the term "Godhead" is used to express this understanding.
2 Peter 2:4: The use of the term "partakers of the divine nature" in 2 Peter 2:4 does not imply that believers become gods in the same sense as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Rather, it speaks to the participation of believers in the life of God through grace, becoming like God in holiness and righteousness, but not in essence or being.
John 3:16: While Jesus indeed identifies himself as the only begotten Son of God in John 3:16, Catholic theology understands this in the context of the Trinity, affirming both the divinity and the unique relationship of Jesus with the Father.
While individuals may hold differing theological perspectives, Catholicism maintains the traditional understanding of Jesus Christ's divinity as central to the Christian faith, in harmony with the teachings of Scripture, the early Church councils, and the Church's magisterial tradition. You, obviously, do not see it that way. But as we said in the beginning, we should concentrate on what we have in common rather than what divides us.
@@CatholicCentralVideos Paul stated that "We give thanks to GOD the Father OF our Lord Jesus Christ AT ALL TIMES" Col 1:4. This then was the custom of the apostles & early Christians! "God the Father" is mentioned by them at least 30 TIMES in the NT. Paul also said "I bow my knees TO THE FATHER" ( Eph 3:14) The early Christians, without a doubt WORSHIPED the Father! Jesus had taught tem to do so! "The hour is coming whien the TRUE WORSHIPERS will WORSHIP THE FATHER in Spirit and truth!" ( John 4:23,24). Do we all as Christians do that?
@@CatholicCentralVideos Its vital we realise the influence of Greek philosophy that shaped most catholic teachings! We need to examine three main misunderstandings! 1. HADES 2. LOGOS 3. PHYKE. Aristotle & Plato both had a take on these three words. Now read them in the bible where they mean SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT! Any thoughtful bible scholar ( or any reader of 'google'!) will realise the way true Christianity as been CORRUPTED!
Islam simple & easy God is one period and Jesus is a prophet of God Allah same Moses, Abraham and Muhammad are all prophets and messengers sent by God
Hi Waleed Samra, Ramadan Mubarek! There are many places where Islam, Judaism, and Christianity diverge from each other and we have the utmost respect for both Jews and Muslims. But, instead of focusing on our differences, we should be united in what joins us together; that we all believe in the same God (Allah, Yahweh) and that God is loving Father to all humanity - Muslims, Jews, Christians, and everyone else. As Salaam Alaikum.
@@CatholicCentralVideos Ramadan Mubarak agree with u but religons we are gona be judge by God in day of judgment so we have to take right path to Paradise Allah bless all 🌙
Thank you Waleed, blessings to you during this Ramadan season.
ALLAH IS ONE AND JESUS WAS A PROPHET
Hi OminousImpression, according to the Bible, Jesus and God are one. We agree with you that there is only one God (Allah, Yahweh), but Catholics believe that one God comes to us in the three persons of the Trinity.
@@CatholicCentralVideos do not compare our God to that allah didn't expect this from you
Why are you mixing languages? Either just speak english or just speak arabian, no need to mix
Great video, but God is a man, not genderless.
Hi Redcastle, thanks for the nice words. As for God's gender, have a look at Genesis 1:26-27 when God creates humans “in the divine image,” an image that the verse identifies as “male and female.” Both genders reflect God’s likeness, then, as creations of a God who is neither man nor woman but the Divine Source of our common humanity.