The Lorax isn't anti-tree. There was just nothing left for him to do but let the people find out for themselves what happens when you chop down all the trees.
Reminds me of a little thing I said when some guy said "Dot on the Spot" and I thought it sounded like the Cat in the Hat going to the dermatologist: Cat in The Hat, I'll keep this secret, just within these walls, But your zits are so plentiful, they go down to your b-
Ted’s mom calling herself Mrs Wiggins despite having no husband would seem to imply she’s a widow. It’s possible that she divorced O’Hare, remarried and then her second husband died, all while Ted was very young. If Bernice suspects O’Hare had her second husband killed, then her fear of him makes a lot of sense. It would also make sense why she doesn’t seem to have any interest in finding a partner during the film. Husband #2 may have spoken out against O’Hare, or simply made him jealous, but either way he’s gone and no one is eager to bring him up.
I would assume, but it’s confusing why she kept her maiden name if she still wants to honour a dead husband with the “Mrs” title and we see no sign of an honoured husband
@@TheTheorizer Maybe he took her name? Or she didn’t want to change her name after changing it to O’Hare and then right back to Wiggins It’s also possible the norms of martial name changing are different in world of the movie, as all of the Onceler’s family members are also Oncelers regardless of gender. The lack of pictures of the late husband could also be to avoid Ted asking questions about him and finding out the truth.
@@TheTheorizer i assumed he lived far away (i assume there are more trees just not truffula trees elsewhere) and wouldn't let her divorce him but she wasn't to mad about it as he still liked disco.(i have no idea how devorce works)
I'm starting to think yall missed the message of "fuck around and find out" that the lorax was actually trying to give. He's not the villain, just out of options
Exactly what I was thinking. Edit; And funny enough, it reminds me of the Old Testament's basic plot. God tells humanity not to do something, they do it anyways... and instead of stopping them, God just lets humanity "fuck around and find out" time and time again... with some ultimate salvation promised in the end, of course.
UNLESS The Lorax is the Oncellers Father as well. A cursed Family Tree DOOMED to repeat the same mistakes over and over. This makes the Lorax a True Evil.
It's called Tough Love. This is what it actually looks like. No one involved are happy and it sucks for everyone but it's how you learn the important lessons so you don't do it again.
Guys…you’re not meant to take theories too seriously as it’s just for fun 😅 you’re probably right but there’s no need to be so smug and unfun about it😬
To add to your theory, it now makes sense why the Once-Ler can live in his big house outside of town while still surviving, O’Hare’s been secretly supplying him air, it also explained why The Once-Ler didn’t just immediately plant the seed, because he had been working with O’Hare, he also probably wasn’t allowed back in town and he couldn’t have planted the seed where he lives, it also makes the Oncer-Ler look less stupid because no matter what, the trees would’ve died, The Lorax was controlling him the whole time, it also explained how no one died due to lack of air, if everyone was dead there’d be no lesson to teach, The Lorax made sure to keep them all alive It’s incredible how this theory explains basically every plot hole in the movie
Something I'm wondering: Could Thneedville be related to the town from the Cat in the Hat? Both are absurd, contain question logic and house design, among other things.
@@the_expidition427 Is he though? If he simply fixed up the forest, the people in the story would've learned nothing and get reduced to square one... but the route he instead took in the movie, according to the video, directly led to not only the forest getting restored eventually but the people *learning* not to destroy it. I mean, sometimes it's better to let an idiot learn the hard way via malicious compliance then to fix their mistake for them and let it repeat, after all.
@@Sharkgobrrrr you know the story of horton hears a who and the grinch where they all live on different specs? I bet all of the doctor suess stories take place on some spec multiverse of something along those lines
The Theorizer is what MatPat would’ve become if he continued to do FNAF theories and truly went insane Thing is, The Theorizer makes it make sense and true, which is horrifying
No the therorizer is the version of matpat that manages to actually convince people he's insane. I'm still not fully convinced... mostly because he makes sense... most of the time
Matpat’s theories are awful-AND mostly wrong. If you knew ANYTHING about FNaF, you’d KNOW MatPat went off the rails after Scott said he was right-ONCE with MatPat’s FNaF 2 theory back in 2014~15. 🤦♂️
The Lorax let it happen. The Lorax let it grow. The song isn't talking about the tree, it's talking about the lesson that needed to be learned. Let the lesson grow.
1:42 this little furry critter looks too clean for a nature spirit, the fur doesn’t shag or bear moss, there are no antlers or horns resembling branches or photosynthesizing stems, there are no sharp claws, scent gland holes, or any other grotesque feature, no uncomfortably familiar looking humanoid face, no nothing to make him embody the everything that is life! Too clean too trimmed like an oak at the park or a palm by the roadside in a big dull city! He shoulda been a muntjac fellow!
If the Lorax is a 385000000 year old being that regulates a universe, he may be a different breed of Katie. All Dr. Seuss creatures could be different species of Katie.
I think the 385 million years ago thing was a reference to the Carboniferous era which is when trees became widespread on Earth. The Lorax is as old as the trees themselves.
Quote on the back of the Lorax "This film is about Heritage, Nature, and Lessons to Humanity. Its about growing Prosperity for the next generation and undoing the sins of ones ancestors." The Theorizer
I seriously cannot believe that all these years later you are still uncovering mind-boggling reality-shifting hidden truths behind the freaking animated Lorax movie from 2012
My mom’s most frequently asked question about Nightmare Before Christmas always was ‘why didn’t Santa use that power before Oogey Boogey nearly killed him?’ What does that have to do with this theory? Well the first words I thought of when she asked that was ‘THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!’ Just like the Lorax says about his own powers. I wonder if Santa was trying to teach that same lesson to Halloween town by LETTING IT ALL HAPPEN?
A friendgroup of mine has this really elaborate injoke comparing The Lorax to that of the story of the garden of eden, was pleasantly surprised to see this theory really nicely complement that. EDIT: OKAY, seeing other people share this exact sentiment was eye-opening and it made me want to directly state what brought about biblical lorax becoming an injoke, that being a specific part in Biggering, where the Lorax states that the Onceler’s real problem isn’t greed, but *pride*. “But you know, you really can't blame greed No, that's stupid You see, it's gotta worm inside Oh yeah, that's right It's one that always needs to feed and it is never satisfied You get it? But the more you try to find it The more it likes to hide Now listen, that is a nasty, little worm And I like to call it pride” the personification of pride as a small, legless, crawling animal set off a lightbulb and the next thing we knew we were jokingly talking about how this was an elaborate metaphor for the snake in the garden of eden. This is an incredibly loose point made mostly in jest but the thought of this stupid injoke actually being mentioned in a theorizer video was enough of a motivator for me to type this all up.
I love these kinds of theories where it all turns out to be a messed up family story, with the character all being connected in some way. And it makes too much sense, too
See I really was wondering the whole movie why the onceler never just planted the seed, I mean I know it's supposed to be that the soil was ruined, but that can't be true do to the onceler still being able to be alive and BREATHING! The whole movie was full of these hidden details just WAITING for someone like you (The Theorizer) to retell this story in the true, yet dark way. It's always a good day when you upload!
Maybe O'Hare was influenced by the Lorax in some way, like, maybe the Lorax disguised himself as a human or hell even presented himself as a magical creature, except omitting the parts where he fights for nature and all that, and offered O'Hare the seeds so he could produce his air, that way he influenced everything from behind the scenes.
I always assumed o'hair just got the air elsewhere. All the animals went away so they probably went somewhere. Also, the more convincing evidence, the onceler found the trufula trees through traveling. That means that there's other places without trufula trees, and that means other ways of getting oxygen. The onceler also had an axe before he knew about trufula trees, so theres other types of trees that would still exist.
I want someone to make a princess mononoke crossover just to make the deer spirit judge the Lorax & rid of him. Something or someone to be “nature finding a way” incarnate.
I don’t think that Mr. O’Hare is a byproduct of The Lorax, i think he might be the Lorax. Hear me out, shortly after the Lorax leaves, we see a young Mr. O’Hare. Shortly After Mr. O’Hare is thrown out of thneedsville, the Lorax return. He might be the Lorax in a different form. This would make the Lorax Ted’s dad.
It could be like how the Monkey King in The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) creates clones through his hair- the Lorax put a manifestation of himself into the world (O’Hare) and takes him away once he’s not needed.
I just realized something. When Ted goes to plant the seed, we see the whole town is concrete. There’s no exposed soil to prevent trees from growing. That’s O’Hares doing. So if someone dies, where are they buried? Outside of town? O’Hare doesn’t let anyone go outside of town and no one goes there anyways. So where do the bodies go? Also how is the onceler still alive after all this time without any fresh air? There’s no trees or plants alive near his house
While i agree with the family connections, the fact O'hare got a seed from the lorax though im not so sure. In an extended version of the theme song at the top of the movie, where the town is praising how perfect their town is, O'hare himself says a very particular line: "I sell them something they can get for free" Now, the reason this line was left in the extended version of the song but not the one in the movie is anyones guess. It could be an old plotline they scrapped. However, it DOES support the idea that life isnt as far gone as its said to be. Or he could be referring to tge fact the onceler still has a seed that he only knows about because he maybe got one of 2 seeds from the Onceler
The way it's presented has always implied to me that air isn't gone. The air may be thin, stale, or otherwise unpleasant, so people are willing to buy fresh air. However, it's not like everyone is taking constant hits of the canned air to stay standing. Either he's passively providing some amount of air as a public service, or it's still otherwise naturally present from SOMEWHERE for free.
Hlariously enough, earlier this week in class we watched the lorax and I had the exact same thought of "what if granny norma was the thneed girl?", so seeing somebody actually look into this is seriously making this an enjoyable episode.
the theorizers pfp makes me think they are like a member of anonymous and if I don't believe them they gonna send me a virus that makes my computer explode. Youve convinced me before the vid started
Bro his voice sound much deeper. Unfortunately a slight plot hole in all this. The reason Ohare doesn't want the trees is because trees make fresh air for free. His whole business is selling purified air, even advertised as such. Mechanical air purifiers are a thing and Ohare seems to be a nerdy tech guy so he more likely invented air purifiers.
I think the Lorax is probably Cy the O’Hare Delivery Guy. The flashbacks seem to imply that O’Hare is just another Onceler style capitalist who started out innocent but was corrupted by money and power. Audrey is too young, for her to be the Lorax, he would have had to decided to become a lost child and hope to be adopted, or possibly dispose of an actual child and replace her, which seems harsh considering that he was opposed to drowning the Onceler. Cy has no backstory and would have been an adult when the town was incorporated. He is the first townsperson to say that the trees are worth a chance at the climax of the movie, actually calls O’Hare a “greedy dirtbag” and he has the exact same mustache as the Lorax. As a delivery man he can enter every house in town and monitor the people. He could have been the one to tell Audrey about the trees and he could have “found” a seed for O’Hare back in the day and given it away, pretending he didn’t understand its worth. I suppose he could also be Audrey’s father who raised her with an understanding of nature, but I can’t prove that, only suspect it from her Lorax colored hair and knowledge that trees produce oxygen. Audrey being effectively half fay would also explain why the tree she helped plant grew so well and produced so many more trees. She literally has nature magic. Another point in favor of the Lorax visiting everyone and subtly promoting trees to them is that literally everyone in town except O’Hare is so excited about gardening that they sing about it, including Marie who is only 3 but would really like to see a tree. Why? Most people irl are indifferent to adding a new thing to their town, and 3 year olds are usually uninterested in things that will not benefit them in the next 10 minutes. I suppose Marie could be Audrey’s sister since she does stand with Audrey and Cy during O’Hare’s part in “Let it Grow” and has no definitive parents. Also despite her young age she is on key and rhymes her verse perfectly. Her hair is more strawberry blonde than orange but it could darken with age and she has blue eyes and an upturned nose like the Lorax. None of that proves she isn’t fully human, but the only other child who has a solo in this movie is Westley who has the shorter non rhyming line “I just went swimming and now I glow.” Considering that he can actually swim without floaties, he is probably much older than 3, yet has a much simpler part. Suspicious.
bro chill out, I will literally do the unthinkable at a moments notice before you can even stop me. Dare you even utter the phrase "matpat" out of your sorry excuse for a mouth again, I will pursue you and make sure you regret it.
Have you ever watched the adult cartoon "Happy Tree Friends?" I know it’s a weird thing to bring up considering it’s unrelated to the topic of this video, but I feel the show has some good theory potential. I don’t want to spoil anything in the series, but just as an example the show has a lot of strange inconsistencies that I see as too purposeful to be just continuity mistakes. Also, the series is based around seemingly cute and cuddly characters that have demented sides to their personality, which is a trend I’ve noticed with a lot of your theory topics. (i.e. Mort, Katie, Gary the Snail, Scrat, etc.)
You know the movie could avoid avoided if they just you know planted more trees after they chopped them down. That's how the logging industry works.They don't go just chopping down trees and then leaving For the next forest they regrow trees
Trees are more violent than you know. They share resources between their root systems and if a tree is weak, the other trees withhold nutrients. Anyone who speaks for the trees must be equally pragmatic. 🤫
0:12 Well it’s an illuminations production of course he wanted it all to die of course he’s selling out for Honda, cuz he ain’t the Lorax he’s a poser ass!
I really wanted to say that this channel is super unique. With hundreds of Theory channels exist, then you have the theory channel of all theory channels, whom i wont name. But, despite all that, you do a great job on standing out! While others mosly recap on theories already known, or the aforementioned theory channel of theory channels. But your sarcasm and wackiness is really entertaining. And i really appreciate how straight you play it, with just the right amount of self awareness. And the quickness to the point as it just descends into madness is just, great.
@12:48-13:13 FACTS!!! Consequences are the best/only teacher. Gotta hit rock bottom. I used to be an "activist". Then I realized some things about ppl & myself. Now I just focus on my own integrity & whats in my direct control, & "let" ppl learn the hard way. 🤷🏾
I always figured O'Hare gets the air from somewhere far off. After all the animal are going somewhere in the flashback so its not like all the trees are gone, only the ones in that area are. So its less that the air is being "created" and more like its being imported
It is possible for a black haired person and a blonde person to have a brown haired child. As for Ted’s hair, that could just be coming from the father OR the onceler because yes, genetics from grandparents can be carried through the family tree (roughly 25%). Plus, it looks like O’Hare has dangling earlobes. If O’Hare was Ted’s dad, the attached earlobes wouldn’t be on Ted like you said But the rest of the video is fantastic 😊
Just wanna remark on the earlobes thing: It isn't nearly so cut and dried as free lobes being dominant over attached lobes. My maternal line has a quirk where one ear has a free lobe and one ear has an attached lobe (it's a royal pain when we go to get our ears pierced.) You would think such a thing would get overwritten fairly quickly in the phenotype by dominant earlobe traits, but it doesn't. It shows up preferentially and is only now, several generations down the line, starting to even out. That tells me there's some codominance and multiple allele involvement happening.
I would believe this if The Lorax wasn't a garbage movie made by a soulless corporation for the sake of profit and nothing else. The idea that they would put any thought whatsoever into the plot is hilarious.
This video (and by extension, the entire channel) are a testament to the importance of paying attention to the small details when writing/making a story. Intentional or not, these small details can completely recontextualize everything, or more importantly, completely dismantle the story you thought you were trying to tell.
You would make a great lawyer because even though you make these wackadoodle claims you provide just enough scraps of evidence and say it in this compelling voice that I’m more than willing to believe in the end.
instant like as soon as i clicked on this video. i saw you explain in a post some hours ago about how they™️ tried to silence you with copyright and not let this video get uploaded; just proves this video is 100% correct.
Man, the more I looked back on your older videos, the more I just noticed how different your voice is sounding! I'm not complaining or anything, I just found it shocking!
The Disco might also be a reference to the band Panic! At The Disco. Ted's main outfit is modeled after a famous outfit the lead singer, Brendon Urie wore in the 2000's. And the Onceler is based off of the original songwriter and guitarist (and lead vocalist for the second album) Ryan Ross. Just search his name with the Onceler, and you'll see the proof. The band had a pretty talked-about split, so it's fair to assume some of the staff got crazy with it.
The Theorizer could convince me of anything at this point.
Hey it’s the theorizers alt account here mort will make you immortal if you give me 400000000 dollars
@TH-camwatcher12345th what's a nickel get me?
Lol
Hey it’s the theorizers alt wire me 200000 dollars stuck in Nigeria
he could convince me white is actually black at this point tbh
They tried to copyright this. It's canon.
The minions shaking in their coveralls 😧
Dam comcast
@GoonLune you must be fun at parties
@@jayjayarehe probably doesn't get invited to em
Just like the struggling rapist, Bugs Bunny.
If The Lorax is anti-Trees does this open the possibility to Willy Wonka secretly hating chocolate and candy?
He is, he makes dangerous candies to get people to not buy products from him or his competitors who he killed.
Yes
The Lorax isn't anti-tree. There was just nothing left for him to do but let the people find out for themselves what happens when you chop down all the trees.
That's why he ruined the lives of those children
Not really
The Lorax was so anti trees he gave his aproval to multiple enviromentally harming products in the Lorax marketing campaing
Exactly
Nice observation
@@TheTheorizer that made me SOL
@@wind_king-lh8zs shit outta luck?
@@hitchhikerwithtowel2721 that almost made me SOL BTW it stands for ¨snicker out loud¨ not laugh but snicker
Lorax: I am the Lorax! i hate speaking for these trees, Please chop them down before I indulge in stress eating cheese
me core
Reminds me of a little thing I said when some guy said "Dot on the Spot" and I thought it sounded like the Cat in the Hat going to the dermatologist:
Cat in The Hat, I'll keep this secret, just within these walls,
But your zits are so plentiful, they go down to your b-
@@ROCKYHORRORHURRAH me core
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CHEEZ
I am the Lorax
I speak for my knees
Ted’s mom calling herself Mrs Wiggins despite having no husband would seem to imply she’s a widow. It’s possible that she divorced O’Hare, remarried and then her second husband died, all while Ted was very young. If Bernice suspects O’Hare had her second husband killed, then her fear of him makes a lot of sense. It would also make sense why she doesn’t seem to have any interest in finding a partner during the film. Husband #2 may have spoken out against O’Hare, or simply made him jealous, but either way he’s gone and no one is eager to bring him up.
I would assume, but it’s confusing why she kept her maiden name if she still wants to honour a dead husband with the “Mrs” title and we see no sign of an honoured husband
@@TheTheorizer
Maybe he took her name? Or she didn’t want to change her name after changing it to O’Hare and then right back to Wiggins It’s also possible the norms of martial name changing are different in world of the movie, as all of the Onceler’s family members are also Oncelers regardless of gender.
The lack of pictures of the late husband could also be to avoid Ted asking questions about him and finding out the truth.
@@TheTheorizer i assumed he lived far away (i assume there are more trees just not truffula trees elsewhere) and wouldn't let her divorce him but she wasn't to mad about it as he still liked disco.(i have no idea how devorce works)
@@TheTheorizer
5:32 Source for the scream?
I'm starting to think yall missed the message of "fuck around and find out" that the lorax was actually trying to give. He's not the villain, just out of options
Exactly what I was thinking.
Edit; And funny enough, it reminds me of the Old Testament's basic plot. God tells humanity not to do something, they do it anyways... and instead of stopping them, God just lets humanity "fuck around and find out" time and time again... with some ultimate salvation promised in the end, of course.
UNLESS The Lorax is the Oncellers Father as well. A cursed Family Tree DOOMED to repeat the same mistakes over and over. This makes the Lorax a True Evil.
@@snintendog except the Lorax and the Onceler's father are not the same. I mean it would be funny if that were the case, but I don't think it is so
It's called Tough Love. This is what it actually looks like. No one involved are happy and it sucks for everyone but it's how you learn the important lessons so you don't do it again.
Guys…you’re not meant to take theories too seriously as it’s just for fun 😅 you’re probably right but there’s no need to be so smug and unfun about it😬
To add to your theory, it now makes sense why the Once-Ler can live in his big house outside of town while still surviving, O’Hare’s been secretly supplying him air, it also explained why The Once-Ler didn’t just immediately plant the seed, because he had been working with O’Hare, he also probably wasn’t allowed back in town and he couldn’t have planted the seed where he lives, it also makes the Oncer-Ler look less stupid because no matter what, the trees would’ve died, The Lorax was controlling him the whole time, it also explained how no one died due to lack of air, if everyone was dead there’d be no lesson to teach, The Lorax made sure to keep them all alive
It’s incredible how this theory explains basically every plot hole in the movie
The Lorax is the villan
Something I'm wondering: Could Thneedville be related to the town from the Cat in the Hat? Both are absurd, contain question logic and house design, among other things.
@@the_expidition427 Is he though? If he simply fixed up the forest, the people in the story would've learned nothing and get reduced to square one... but the route he instead took in the movie, according to the video, directly led to not only the forest getting restored eventually but the people *learning* not to destroy it.
I mean, sometimes it's better to let an idiot learn the hard way via malicious compliance then to fix their mistake for them and let it repeat, after all.
@@Sharkgobrrrr you know the story of horton hears a who and the grinch where they all live on different specs? I bet all of the doctor suess stories take place on some spec multiverse of something along those lines
wow
The Theorizer is what MatPat would’ve become if he continued to do FNAF theories and truly went insane
Thing is, The Theorizer makes it make sense and true, which is horrifying
No the therorizer is the version of matpat that manages to actually convince people he's insane. I'm still not fully convinced... mostly because he makes sense... most of the time
@@jang-xo6ye i think its not insanity, but just seeing the truth about everything .
The Theorizer is the ascended MatPat from the distant future
#reallifetheory
Matpat’s theories are awful-AND mostly wrong.
If you knew ANYTHING about FNaF, you’d KNOW MatPat went off the rails after Scott said he was right-ONCE with MatPat’s FNaF 2 theory back in 2014~15. 🤦♂️
So Ted's father in a way is a tree just like we joked in an earlier community post
No, Ted's dad is O'Hare, that got his idea & also possibly a way to produce air thx to the Lorax
@@gonhunter3994 Lorax is O'hair
@@debater452 O'Hare is actually Jesus and The Lorax is the father and holy spirit.
@@olasdorosdiliusimilius2174 so O´Hare is f-Fully human even subject to *bites lip* human desires?
@@wind_king-lh8zsmy man thats the subject of several heresies, watch your steps
The Lorax let it happen. The Lorax let it grow. The song isn't talking about the tree, it's talking about the lesson that needed to be learned. Let the lesson grow.
1:42 this little furry critter looks too clean for a nature spirit, the fur doesn’t shag or bear moss, there are no antlers or horns resembling branches or photosynthesizing stems, there are no sharp claws, scent gland holes, or any other grotesque feature, no uncomfortably familiar looking humanoid face, no nothing to make him embody the everything that is life!
Too clean too trimmed like an oak at the park or a palm by the roadside in a big dull city!
He shoulda been a muntjac fellow!
Goooooood noice
Great observation
Did you come up with that depiction of the spirit of the forest from the movie Princess Mononoke by studio ghibli
5:32 Anyone knows the source for the scream?
If the Lorax is a 385000000 year old being that regulates a universe, he may be a different breed of Katie. All Dr. Seuss creatures could be different species of Katie.
The Truffula trees do look very similar to Katie’s flowers….
I think the 385 million years ago thing was a reference to the Carboniferous era which is when trees became widespread on Earth. The Lorax is as old as the trees themselves.
What is this Katie?
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Who is katie?
I feel like I’m watching something the government doesn’t want me to whenever I watch these videos
That is the PERFECT way to describe the sheer madness of The Theorizer
Like a secret society channel
Hell yeah Theorizer secret fan club
High five 🖐️
Universal copyrighted the original video, this making EVERYTHING in this video CANON
No they Copyright claimed the visuals of THEIR MOVIE was being misused by a weirdo on the internet to display with his creepy fan-fiction
@@JD.tsuki22🤓
@@JD.tsuki22nah it follows the law at least in the USA since he doesn’t include the whole movie
7:35 in spanish mr o’hare says to ted’s mom to go back to the kitchen so it is even more personal
That’s what I thought he said in English, I had to correct it later lol
Quote on the back of the Lorax
"This film is about Heritage, Nature, and Lessons to Humanity. Its about growing Prosperity for the next generation and undoing the sins of ones ancestors."
The Theorizer
Theorizer is like the real life version of “The Question” from DC.
Reminds me of the line
"Who punched you?, Answer THE QUESTION"
-The Question
Perhaps the reason why O'hair didn't kill Ted when he was brought to him was because Ted is his kid
I seriously cannot believe that all these years later you are still uncovering mind-boggling reality-shifting hidden truths behind the freaking animated Lorax movie from 2012
Can't believe it was released as early as 2012 it feels more like a 2016 film to me
I know it’s pretty crazy
You know if they added the divorce subtext it would make it more interesting
He did a poll on this a month ago on what is the best, but he chose all of them.
What a good man.
Poll 😊
THEY WERE ALL SO GOOD
HONEY WAKE UP THEORIZER UPLOADED
But...sweetie..I worked a 14 hour shift last night at the hospital....
i am awake.
@@theemeraldking3251 DID I STUTTTTTTER
WAKE THEORIZER HONEY UPLOADED UP
@@oldNreliablealright alright babe we’ll watch it
Can’t believe you would change the thumbnail from Daddy O’Hare to the Lorax.
BABE WAKE UP NEW THEORIZER VIDEO
My mom’s most frequently asked question about Nightmare Before Christmas always was ‘why didn’t Santa use that power before Oogey Boogey nearly killed him?’
What does that have to do with this theory? Well the first words I thought of when she asked that was ‘THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!’ Just like the Lorax says about his own powers.
I wonder if Santa was trying to teach that same lesson to Halloween town by LETTING IT ALL HAPPEN?
You have a voice that makes me afraid of the stair monster again
I am not complaining
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Honestly, the distortion to circumvent the copyright kinda fits your vibe!
It’s what I’ve done in the past, sometimes overkill lol
A friendgroup of mine has this really elaborate injoke comparing The Lorax to that of the story of the garden of eden, was pleasantly surprised to see this theory really nicely complement that.
EDIT: OKAY, seeing other people share this exact sentiment was eye-opening and it made me want to directly state what brought about biblical lorax becoming an injoke, that being a specific part in Biggering, where the Lorax states that the Onceler’s real problem isn’t greed, but *pride*.
“But you know, you really can't blame greed
No, that's stupid
You see, it's gotta worm inside
Oh yeah, that's right
It's one that always needs to feed and it is never satisfied
You get it?
But the more you try to find it
The more it likes to hide
Now listen, that is a nasty, little worm
And I like to call it pride”
the personification of pride as a small, legless, crawling animal set off a lightbulb and the next thing we knew we were jokingly talking about how this was an elaborate metaphor for the snake in the garden of eden.
This is an incredibly loose point made mostly in jest but the thought of this stupid injoke actually being mentioned in a theorizer video was enough of a motivator for me to type this all up.
14:22 You could say it Thneeded to happen
NO JOKER, DAMN YOU JOKER. WHAT DID YOU GAIN? WHAT DID YOU GET FROM GOTHAM?
You always make feel me like psychopath because your videos are that good and mind blowing
“Honey wake up, The Theorizer posted a new video!”
I love these kinds of theories where it all turns out to be a messed up family story, with the character all being connected in some way. And it makes too much sense, too
The fact that this video was copyright striked by the company, most likely attempting to _silence_ him, says much more about its canonicity 👀
Has anyone else came to the terrifying realisation that the trees in The Lorax are the clovers in Horton Hears a Who?(Katie part 4)
He talked about that in a previous vids.
Which one?
@@Trainman-fx9oe probably in ones about Katie.
Hope you are safe far from the CIA, we thank you for exposing the truth.
THIS is what I've been waiting for! Ever since I saw the community post teasing this I've been eagerly waiting for it.
See I really was wondering the whole movie why the onceler never just planted the seed, I mean I know it's supposed to be that the soil was ruined, but that can't be true do to the onceler still being able to be alive and BREATHING! The whole movie was full of these hidden details just WAITING for someone like you (The Theorizer) to retell this story in the true, yet dark way. It's always a good day when you upload!
Maybe O'Hare was influenced by the Lorax in some way, like, maybe the Lorax disguised himself as a human or hell even presented himself as a magical creature, except omitting the parts where he fights for nature and all that, and offered O'Hare the seeds so he could produce his air, that way he influenced everything from behind the scenes.
I always assumed o'hair just got the air elsewhere. All the animals went away so they probably went somewhere. Also, the more convincing evidence, the onceler found the trufula trees through traveling. That means that there's other places without trufula trees, and that means other ways of getting oxygen. The onceler also had an axe before he knew about trufula trees, so theres other types of trees that would still exist.
At first I was leaning into mail man as his father is such a great joke, I died at this part. 4:40
I want someone to make a princess mononoke crossover just to make the deer spirit judge the Lorax & rid of him.
Something or someone to be “nature finding a way” incarnate.
That would be so cool!
Love that movie.
I don’t think that Mr. O’Hare is a byproduct of The Lorax, i think he might be the Lorax. Hear me out, shortly after the Lorax leaves, we see a young Mr. O’Hare. Shortly After Mr. O’Hare is thrown out of thneedsville, the Lorax return. He might be the Lorax in a different form. This would make the Lorax Ted’s dad.
That’s what I was getting at, I just kind of said “maybe he created him” in case some people wouldn’t believe something as blunt
It could be like how the Monkey King in The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) creates clones through his hair- the Lorax put a manifestation of himself into the world (O’Hare) and takes him away once he’s not needed.
I just realized something. When Ted goes to plant the seed, we see the whole town is concrete. There’s no exposed soil to prevent trees from growing. That’s O’Hares doing. So if someone dies, where are they buried? Outside of town? O’Hare doesn’t let anyone go outside of town and no one goes there anyways. So where do the bodies go? Also how is the onceler still alive after all this time without any fresh air? There’s no trees or plants alive near his house
While i agree with the family connections, the fact O'hare got a seed from the lorax though im not so sure.
In an extended version of the theme song at the top of the movie, where the town is praising how perfect their town is, O'hare himself says a very particular line:
"I sell them something they can get for free"
Now, the reason this line was left in the extended version of the song but not the one in the movie is anyones guess. It could be an old plotline they scrapped. However, it DOES support the idea that life isnt as far gone as its said to be. Or he could be referring to tge fact the onceler still has a seed that he only knows about because he maybe got one of 2 seeds from the Onceler
The way it's presented has always implied to me that air isn't gone.
The air may be thin, stale, or otherwise unpleasant, so people are willing to buy fresh air.
However, it's not like everyone is taking constant hits of the canned air to stay standing. Either he's passively providing some amount of air as a public service, or it's still otherwise naturally present from SOMEWHERE for free.
Hlariously enough, earlier this week in class we watched the lorax and I had the exact same thought of "what if granny norma was the thneed girl?", so seeing somebody actually look into this is seriously making this an enjoyable episode.
the theorizers pfp makes me think they are like a member of anonymous and if I don't believe them they gonna send me a virus that makes my computer explode.
Youve convinced me before the vid started
Bro his voice sound much deeper.
Unfortunately a slight plot hole in all this. The reason Ohare doesn't want the trees is because trees make fresh air for free. His whole business is selling purified air, even advertised as such. Mechanical air purifiers are a thing and Ohare seems to be a nerdy tech guy so he more likely invented air purifiers.
I can't help but feel you're 5’6 with the way you called Ohare a short king
He is a king, bloody legend, and I’m a 6’2 degenerate
@@TheTheorizer Wow, you're taller than my dad even though you're only 7 months older than me
@@TheTheorizer Huh, you're a similar height to me.
@@TheTheorizer That sounds exactly like something a 5'6'' person would say
You got mogged hard 😂
I think the Lorax is probably Cy the O’Hare Delivery Guy. The flashbacks seem to imply that O’Hare is just another Onceler style capitalist who started out innocent but was corrupted by money and power. Audrey is too young, for her to be the Lorax, he would have had to decided to become a lost child and hope to be adopted, or possibly dispose of an actual child and replace her, which seems harsh considering that he was opposed to drowning the Onceler.
Cy has no backstory and would have been an adult when the town was incorporated. He is the first townsperson to say that the trees are worth a chance at the climax of the movie, actually calls O’Hare a “greedy dirtbag” and he has the exact same mustache as the Lorax. As a delivery man he can enter every house in town and monitor the people. He could have been the one to tell Audrey about the trees and he could have “found” a seed for O’Hare back in the day and given it away, pretending he didn’t understand its worth.
I suppose he could also be Audrey’s father who raised her with an understanding of nature, but I can’t prove that, only suspect it from her Lorax colored hair and knowledge that trees produce oxygen.
Audrey being effectively half fay would also explain why the tree she helped plant grew so well and produced so many more trees. She literally has nature magic.
Another point in favor of the Lorax visiting everyone and subtly promoting trees to them is that literally everyone in town except O’Hare is so excited about gardening that they sing about it, including Marie who is only 3 but would really like to see a tree. Why? Most people irl are indifferent to adding a new thing to their town, and 3 year olds are usually uninterested in things that will not benefit them in the next 10 minutes. I suppose
Marie could be Audrey’s sister since she does stand with Audrey and Cy during O’Hare’s part in “Let it Grow” and has no definitive parents. Also despite her young age she is on key and rhymes her verse perfectly. Her hair is more strawberry blonde than orange but it could darken with age and she has blue eyes and an upturned nose like the Lorax. None of that proves she isn’t fully human, but the only other child who has a solo in this movie is Westley who has the shorter non rhyming line “I just went swimming and now I glow.” Considering that he can actually swim without floaties, he is probably much older than 3, yet has a much simpler part. Suspicious.
MatPats adopted son finally uploaded.
They grow up so fast
bro chill out, I will literally do the unthinkable at a moments notice before you can even stop me.
Dare you even utter the phrase "matpat" out of your sorry excuse for a mouth again, I will pursue you and make sure you regret it.
@@jxsy matpat
@@jxsy Matpat is king Matpat is the OG
Have you ever watched the adult cartoon "Happy Tree Friends?" I know it’s a weird thing to bring up considering it’s unrelated to the topic of this video, but I feel the show has some good theory potential.
I don’t want to spoil anything in the series, but just as an example the show has a lot of strange inconsistencies that I see as too purposeful to be just continuity mistakes.
Also, the series is based around seemingly cute and cuddly characters that have demented sides to their personality, which is a trend I’ve noticed with a lot of your theory topics. (i.e. Mort, Katie, Gary the Snail, Scrat, etc.)
Good comment, hope he reads it
that unlocked some core memories thanks
I remember stumbling across that show when I was younger. Definitely would be cool to see to see a theory.
I love htf! ❤️ (Tothy is my favorite)
@@outerspaceproduction Flaky and Pop for me personally. Toothy is very underrated though!
Could be a mutiverse thing again. Like, horten hears a hoo and the lorax have similar characters. Because secretly everything is a multiverse 16:17
If the theoriser made a video saying i was a russian sleeper agent activated by the word bananajam i would believe him
Next week…
Matilda @@TheTheorizer
Bananajam >:)
This is actually apart of the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion
*Boss bar fills*
_Lorax, Speaker of the Trees_
@@IronDJWI predicted the Scadutree Avatar
@@debater452 It wasn’t a prediction, you knew all along.
IVE BEEN SO ADDICTED TO THE LORAX FOR SO LONG IM SO READY FOR THIS
You know the movie could avoid avoided if they just you know planted more trees after they chopped them down. That's how the logging industry works.They don't go just chopping down trees and then leaving For the next forest they regrow trees
NO WAY THE GUY WHO SPEAKS FOR THE TREES DESTROYS THE TREES
Trees are more violent than you know. They share resources between their root systems and if a tree is weak, the other trees withhold nutrients. Anyone who speaks for the trees must be equally pragmatic. 🤫
0:12 Well it’s an illuminations production of course he wanted it all to die of course he’s selling out for Honda, cuz he ain’t the Lorax he’s a poser ass!
Character: "What a nice day."
Theorists: Her eyes were cut off, her ears were cut off, her arms were cut off.
Get this to the top
I really wanted to say that this channel is super unique. With hundreds of Theory channels exist, then you have the theory channel of all theory channels, whom i wont name.
But, despite all that, you do a great job on standing out! While others mosly recap on theories already known, or the aforementioned theory channel of theory channels. But your sarcasm and wackiness is really entertaining. And i really appreciate how straight you play it, with just the right amount of self awareness. And the quickness to the point as it just descends into madness is just, great.
finally, how many times have you smashed your fist against the wall when making this video?
"2016 back when I was young and full of life" I feel that man
Lorax? more like...
EVILORAX!!!!
Every few months i come back to this channel and im never dissapointed. Keep bringing the thruth you crazy enlightened individual
@12:48-13:13 FACTS!!! Consequences are the best/only teacher. Gotta hit rock bottom. I used to be an "activist". Then I realized some things about ppl & myself. Now I just focus on my own integrity & whats in my direct control, & "let" ppl learn the hard way. 🤷🏾
New video about the lorax, awesome!!!
Been waiting
I dont know but the editing on this video about a conspiracy on the lorax kept me on the verge of bursting out laughing
8:38 One issue, black hair is a dominant gene. If ted is O'hares son then how is his hair brown?
He could be incompletely dominant, so like he doesn't show black or blonde
He could be heterozygous so one allele is black and one is brown
I always figured O'Hare gets the air from somewhere far off. After all the animal are going somewhere in the flashback so its not like all the trees are gone, only the ones in that area are. So its less that the air is being "created" and more like its being imported
WAAAAAH THEORIZER UPLOADED
Game theory went decently crazy so this man could go BATSHIT FECKING INSANE
It is possible for a black haired person and a blonde person to have a brown haired child. As for Ted’s hair, that could just be coming from the father OR the onceler because yes, genetics from grandparents can be carried through the family tree (roughly 25%). Plus, it looks like O’Hare has dangling earlobes. If O’Hare was Ted’s dad, the attached earlobes wouldn’t be on Ted like you said
But the rest of the video is fantastic 😊
Just wanna remark on the earlobes thing: It isn't nearly so cut and dried as free lobes being dominant over attached lobes. My maternal line has a quirk where one ear has a free lobe and one ear has an attached lobe (it's a royal pain when we go to get our ears pierced.) You would think such a thing would get overwritten fairly quickly in the phenotype by dominant earlobe traits, but it doesn't. It shows up preferentially and is only now, several generations down the line, starting to even out. That tells me there's some codominance and multiple allele involvement happening.
His voice is so serous in a good way and this theory make so much sense am not joking!
I would believe this if The Lorax wasn't a garbage movie made by a soulless corporation for the sake of profit and nothing else. The idea that they would put any thought whatsoever into the plot is hilarious.
They were far less soulless at the time.
last time I watched one of your vids was almost two years ago, and I deadass got jumpscared by the deep ass voice
Mort broke me to my soul
@@TheTheorizer Oh wait. You're the Mort Man.
UR mORT??
Looks like you defeated Universal ⚔️
Also not to be annoying but I got the first view baby
The Theorizer could be talking about a Toothpaste brand and would still make it sound like the deepest conspiracy of all time
It makes me feel that they are separate entities part of a cycle. Kind of kile rava and vaatu from legend of korra
This video (and by extension, the entire channel) are a testament to the importance of paying attention to the small details when writing/making a story. Intentional or not, these small details can completely recontextualize everything, or more importantly, completely dismantle the story you thought you were trying to tell.
yay! here it is!!!
Three series/movies I'd love to see from you:
1. Spy Kids
2. Bolt
3. Fifth Element
Whhhaaaat? Never heard of this. Thank you!
Frankly, the fact this movie is still getting theory videos and videos in general shows how culturally significant this movie was to society
this more nostalgic then Nostalgia critic
Happy Theorizer Day!!!!🗣🗣🗣
AWESOME
You know it’s a good day when the theorized uploads
You would make a great lawyer because even though you make these wackadoodle claims you provide just enough scraps of evidence and say it in this compelling voice that I’m more than willing to believe in the end.
instant like as soon as i clicked on this video. i saw you explain in a post some hours ago about how they™️ tried to silence you with copyright and not let this video get uploaded; just proves this video is 100% correct.
shoulda put the vine thud sound at the word disco reveal
Get this man a Netflix show
YASS UPLOADED! EARLY
Man, the more I looked back on your older videos, the more I just noticed how different your voice is sounding! I'm not complaining or anything, I just found it shocking!
He might have actually went insane
Nothing really makes sense, but i agree completely
The Disco might also be a reference to the band Panic! At The Disco. Ted's main outfit is modeled after a famous outfit the lead singer, Brendon Urie wore in the 2000's. And the Onceler is based off of the original songwriter and guitarist (and lead vocalist for the second album) Ryan Ross. Just search his name with the Onceler, and you'll see the proof. The band had a pretty talked-about split, so it's fair to assume some of the staff got crazy with it.
Is this the new theory legend after matpat retired
omg i havent watched this channel in YEARS but im so glad to see youre still going strong
Bros better than game theory
You should do a video on the amazing digital circus