I actually found this cause my math teacher was watching wall-e with us and was like: "the smoothies are people, look it up" or some shit. I respect him
Mickey mouse: YOU WILL *NEVER* KNOW THE *TRUTH*! Aha! (everything turns red, mikeys face melts in flame and you see his flesh, then his skull and kat.)
You also forgot at the beginning, they were eating solid foods, not stuff in a cup, which further proves this theory, because they were originally eating solid foods, not humans, and now they're just sipping from a cup.
@@Lucky-132 if otto can hide the fact that people are eating people, he can hide a farm. But why hide the farm? Because if the capitain knew about it, he could have wanted to go back to earth.
Well, from what I’ve read from articles such as “Wikipedia”, National Geographic society” one possibility is atomic fusion. And while I don’t have evidence, if they can create a ship of that size, I assume that they have figured out atomic fusion which could create enough energy, somehow to make food, plus, it’s a movie and the captain literally said something around the words of “food cloning procedures?” “Check”.
actually they have already done it and that is wall-e it self, Didn't anybody realise ? That,at 09:43 he said the magic word "coffee" But anyways that's jut a theory A fan's fan theory
@@xenonelysian5160 yha ,the world's most expensive coffee ,but problem is they are taking the undigested coffee civet cat ate before So there has to be plant's anyway And I'm prity sure that we can't make coffee from human poop☕
Pixar confirmed this theory maby by mistake? On Disney plus there's a show called pixar in real life and on on of the second wall-e episode. They said "you don't want to know how it's made" when they were selling bnl drinks!
My theory: There must be a farm or greenhouse somewhere on the ship producing food and also oxygen for the ship. The humans wouldn't know about it, since the robots run everything. Dead bodies and feces would be used as fertilizer.
Because it shows that the earth is capable of sustaining life again or at least coming close. I swear, it's like matpat didn't even bother watching the movie...
Well, there are a few things that were completely left out, so most likely the food comes from plants. 1. You still need to create Oxygen. Of course they could create Oxygen with water, but they would still need to deal with the hydrogen. Also they need to deal with the CO2 create by the humans. So either they just dump it out into space, leaving solid junks of CO2 floating trough space, or they have plants that use the CO2 to create Oxygen. 2. The calories don't just create themselves. A human uses calories just by existing. So with every "cycle" of a human dying, getting turned into food and than getting eaten until the consumer dies you will loose quite a lot of calories. If we say that the humans are mostly inactive and are actually gaining weight we can go with an average intake of 2.500 calories a day per human (The average daily consumption over the whole life). With a lifespan of up to 200 years like said we can go with 150 years. So every human on board would need around 109.500.000 calories trough their whole life. This would mean that to feed one human they would need around 1.368 dead humans (going from 80.000 calories per human). So if we simplify this very much and say the food lastet the first generation of humans until their death and second generation also consists of exactly 600.000 humans than the third generation could only be around 438 humans. So unless there is a human slaughterhouse on the ship that kills a lot of humans before their natural lifespan it is most likely that the dead body's are used as fertilizer to grow plants.
Yeah there's prolly some sort of mechanized process, probably just direct chemical food printing technology. In all likelihood they chemically digest all organic waste, using the nuclear energy to convert it to food. For all we know they have a bacterial biome engineered entirely for this purpose. What doesn't make sense is if you could do this, you could optimize food for human health, or even genetically alter humans to singularly enjoy a healthy diet
While everyone is taking a staunch stand against this theory, I'm just going to point out the funny irony at the beginning... Potassium Benzoate is a food preservative, yes, and it's found in Diet Coke. Guess who's addicted to Diet Coke.
@@mickeyd2034 What about them? Even if the passengers had the same lifespan that's still a lot of dead bodies. And, that means the need even more food for people because they are living so long.
Also I realised, Wall-E was looking down on the Milky Way in one of the scenes, which means they left the galaxy after 700 years. That’s pretty advanced, so why didn’t they just go to the closest habitat planet, Proxima B which is only 4.2 light years away.
-How to cook a human body -Average calories in Human Body -How to mask the taste of Human Flesh -Should I stop overthinking a kids Movie about robot love?
Conservation of energy kind of mandates that they have a way of converting electric energy into calories. If they survived only through cannibalism, they would need to eat over 7000 people per day. Then you need more people to feed the extra people, and all told it's more people than atoms in the Universe.
@@ajh3461 Thank you I didnt wanted to write a long comment about the energy loss in the chemical reactions, this would be an perpetum mobile hes talking about
So, MatPat could be right with this whole analysis and theory about food regeneration and cannibalism or, Disney could have just pulled a "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs" and straight up turned water into food.........
Well, you do have a good point with that there. If they're in the 28th century, then scientists must have found a way of artificially creating the chemical bonds in calories, carbohydrates, etc and such that you'd find in your food.
There are 2 points I found when researching this topic. 1: If the captain has only ever seen pizza once, then how does he know it tastes good? 2: On the breakfast signs, why do they show solid foods instead of the foods they put in the movie? It wouldn't make sense.
Someone on board: hey can you cremate me when I die? Auto: sure! The person on board as a ghost watching as they cook and serve to other passengers: that is NOT what I meant
I really like the animation style from this video and the general feeling of this age of matpat. I loved this video specifically so much when I was younger Rip Ronnie Fr Fr. I’m gonna miss mats videos 🙏
wouldnt be viable to farm for that many people in a spaceship, there would be a space problem in it unless tere was a farming space station which we cant know if exist or not, but look the "dont attack the titans theory"
Also, why are dead bodies a problem? They can just shoot them into space, we just don't see it. This theory seems to take a lot of "i dont see x, so y". And feeding on your own flesh just doesn't work because heat loss/basic physics
@@cyberschn1tzel997 But why are they so overweight. Why are they only drinking liquids with a straw. This theory covered everything that a needed to know that these people are cannibals.
@@IMITZU maybe but matpat contradicted himself in his next wall e theory about how the company that made the ship is only feeding them food they made. In this theory he says the robots (there from a different company) are the ones who are feeding the people.
A few years ago my class was watching wall-E and once class ended some kid said to his friends "did you know everyone on the ship are cannibals?" And I remember thinking to my self I've found my fellow theorists Bit of a random story but thought I'd share
by the way, there is also not a single scene where you see a single person with grey hair or dry skin. that could mean two things. Either they don't grow old, which is not the case considering the fact that there have been several captains, or, it could mean that something happens before the human reaches a certain age...
bro i fell sleep watching a @CGPGrey video and i woke up when i heard film theory's theme song of this video, thank you for saving me matpat! you woke me up from my longer-than-enough rest, cuz i still have stuff do to
bro there was a lot more ships then just the Axiom that was the star of the fleet , only the very wealthy could afford it there must have been BILLIONS OF SHIPS
This was one of my favorite movies of all time. If the developers of Wall-E actually intended to have all these hints to show cannibalism, I think this may be my favorite movie again. That would be one of the darkest implications I have ever seen in a movie without anyone picking up on it for years. xD
MY THEORY OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM 1 the robots turned on them 2 they ate each other until there was only one person left so they slowly died of starvation or commited suicide bc they didn't wanna starv-......sh-CRAP im turning into matpat ....wait THE ONLY THING LEFT TO TEST IS MY SEARCH HISTORY.........FUC-
The captain doesn’t even know how the controls of the ship work, so it wouldn’t be that crazy to assume that he doesn’t remember that there are farms or animals on board as those are tasks that could be taken care of by the robots. as for the reason there’s no elderly people it’s not beyond the Relm of possibility that they have some kind of retirement home.
In Wall-E, when the captain wakes up and realizes that it's lunch time, then changes the time to morning, he checks all of the systems. one of these systems include a regenerative buffet. The captain asks about it, and auto tells him that it's clear. That means there's a regenerative buffet that "regenerates food" for a spaceship that they planned would last more than 5 years. In the movie, there's a video where the person on the video talks to auto saying that if life is found on Earth, he should send it away and prevent the humans from returning to Earth. This means that BnL planned for the spaceship would last for far more than 5 years. Therefore, the people aren't eating the dead people of the past. also how do the people make babies if they're always sitting
My mom on me : ok your 11 and a good kid (step)dad : JACKIE ,JAIDYN IS WACTHING INAPPROPRIATE STUFF mom on lizzy: stop don't wacht that lizzys dad: ok you wacht that LIZZY SIX
Oh he definitely did it's a main plot point ex. When he took his treads off and put new ones on, and when his eye broke he just straight up got a new one. So he didn't cause it already said so.
When are you going to make a theory about cloudy with a chance of meatballs and how he could make food out of water, since this can revolutionize how we can save up resources
Wow, but how do they manage to get the taste, changing atoms might make it look like a burger, but the taste, how does it manage to change it from water to burger, or cupcake, In the movie it doesn't say that the scientist is putting other stuff in, only water
@@gld_ow If atoms are exposed to enough energy, they can actually become different elements. In stars, atoms fuse into heavier elements like hydrogen into helium. So maybe thats how the food machine works
Like a food-nado that it made it was practically a black hole ijntge clouds not a real one but shure felt like it but inntge center we find that thing looking like a organ just spewing food gross
"When the food supply is depleted...These uh civilised people, they will eat each other. See I'm not a theorist, I'm just ahead of the curve" -Matpat 2016
@@mrrandom5617 right, I was looking all over for it, eventually I knew I had to go all Thanos "fine I'll do it myself" mode, I'm surprised no one else did it, or of they did, why it was hard finding it
Theory debunked. Half the population would have to die every day to supply enough food for the people to be that fat. They can't keep that up for 695 years. See my theory ruin comment for details.
@@imperfect_ten ahem no the humans need about 2500-3000 calories everyday to gain weight and even 5000 to get that fat and the people should fit 100k or more calories which would mean that one in 20 people would have to die and in real life 4 people are born in a second 2 die so there would be so many bodies over they couldnt even eat
@@arttuvarinen3022 Sure, but still, think about it. At the time we see them they are super fat. No one even communicates face to face, so how are babies even being made in the first place? How do kids exist in this? What's most plausible is that just like the captain said in the movie, there is a regenerative food buffet and since they have a regenerator device why couldn't they regenerate people?
@@imperfect_ten Let me debunk you instead. Ever heard of test-tube babies? And second, the people on the Axium doesn't use as many calories as regular people since they are lazy as f (now). Consider this theory: Most passengers start out as healthy, normal people on a casual flight with all their essentials taken care of. However as time goes on and supplies diminish, Otto begins changing their diet and reducing the otherwise healthy food with junk that can still sustain them, but not energise them hence their slow descend to laziness. The less they exercise, the fatter they become since the calories they consume aren't just unhealthy in the first place, it also has no means of being burnt off. Every generation it gets worse, little by little as shown by the captain's portraits. Sure, advanced medical technology kept them alive and free from most illnesses but whatever lifespan they have are spent lounging around. But they die eventually, each dead body begins containing more and more empty calories which Otto sees as a waste of recyclable resources. At this point, real food is pretty much gone, no matter how much Otto skimps or changes their dietary intake, he knew he had to find some way to keep the humans on board alive and away from earth, thus leading to Mat's theory.
@@DemBigOlEyes First of all, the robot's name is Auto. Not Otto. Just clarifying. Second, if they have enough space for that many test tubes, why not have farms too? There were TONS of Axioms that took off in the first place, (as seen in the ads for the Axioms near the beginning of the movie) why not devote one to farms? However, there is the issue of there's only one left at the time the movie takes place, but they could have easily taken apart some of the other Axioms for parts for the cloning machine/regenerative food buffet that the captain said about. And if they can generate babies, it's pretty safe to assume that with their tech they can generate food anyway. And, closing question, let me ask you this. How does MatPat's theory say that it will FLAVOR the human meat? Flavoring takes materials.
An interesting note. If they're in the kupier belt, that's full of comets and condratic asteroids. Basically literally tons of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. CHON makes up all the building blocks for food. With some basic food synthesis, you've got all the foods you'd ever need
that makes lots of sense, especially when you consider that they're an advanced society with technology we can only dream of. Maybe they mix chemicals and proteins together to make the cupcakes in a cup.
Actually, clips in the movie show walle taking parts from his dead counterparts and using them as spare parts. He used another walle robots eye lenses to replace his.
The Commenter one of them being... If Wall-E is a cannibal what does him eating humans have to do with that? He's a robot so eating a human isn't cannibalism lol
You know I've always wondered...where are the rest of the humans? In the beginning we see that more than one Axiom-like ship leave Earrh...we also see in the A113 clip that the BnL president says "Let's get the heck out of here" implying he and the humans who stayed behind left as well...so where did they go? Are they still out in space?
Pretty sure that is in the film in a way. I remember there's a scene where one of Wall-e's tracks is a little worn out and he finds a defunct model and then the very next scene both of his tracks are in perfect condition.
@@AxisChurchDevotee no no, i get that. But why would that be a theory? Cmon, these potato sacks must crave eating something else than cupcake in a cup 😁
I think it was the fact that potassium benzoate was PAIRED with human flesh, because he was talking about it and then saw the flesh thing. Its probably harmless
I can see them using corpses as the base for a compost, but a canabalistic food stuff would be unsustainable. they'd run out of food in less than 2 years.
The conservation of energy means that if your having humans diffusing usable energy as humans do, you have to imput usable energy in the food supply. This is only possible with chemosynthisis, photosynthesis, or some equivalent process. Sure, you could use human waste and dead humans to help grow crops, but some sort of organic processing via a producer, or perhaps an electronic means of reducing chemical agents is nessasary. If you change human flesh enough for it to be a viable foodstuff, it's more rational to classify it as composting.
Around ten people would die per day. Since they likely do multiple dumps of trash a day, it's fair to approximate 1 or 2 corpses per dump. Since the cubes are huge, and we only see a portion of their surface, it's very unlikely we'd see the corspe. Also, there's no guarantee there's not a star trek 2 type launch bay for corspes somewhere on the enormous axiom that we only see a small part of. Also, it would be way more efficient to use bacteria or protists to produce chemicals from human waste that could be used as a food stuff. Or a genetically motified form of chicken cells that turn poop into chicken breasts. Or you could splice yeast and wheat to make a bread forming strain of protist. The list of ways crops could exist without plants or animals are pretty big.
my thoughts exactly, I very much doubt that they could have been able to survive on only human meat. which would mean that there is a farm somewhere on board. Even for 5 years worth of food I would prefer putting a farm on the ship than pure food if you are taking half a million people.
+VengfulDarkness true they cnat survive solely on human meat but also why do they have electrical trees around teh axiom "ELECTRICAL" if they have a farm why dont plant real trees
***** Ok here's some huge problems: 1. They are next to a massive cloud in space. Revealed to be a segment of the Kuiper belt. The kuiper belt is full of elements that can be chemically made into proteins, carbohydrates, proteins, vitamins, and chelated minerals. 2. The amount of waste being cast out into space indicates that this is an open system. 3. The population would have a reducing return per lifetime given these starting numbers of people. If they were being recycled into food, then fed to each other, then that would mean that each body would have to be processed into lipids, carbohydrates, and so on. With the wasteful nature of the people, the population would be reduced by an 8th per generation. Given that this is 700 years past 0 year, that means that there would be less than 1000 people on the ship assuming a beginning population of 50,000 per ship (A low estimate) even then, the ship clearly had at least the same population if not more than the starting population. This means that the theory that people are recycled is increasingly unlikely. 4. The ships clearly have a warp system. This means that they have a fusion if not matter, anti-matter reaction systems. Which means that they can produce all the elements needed to include Iron, which is essential to long term diets. 5. The level of fat on each person indicates a caloric intake higher than 1200 calories per day (A more or less minimum for daily activity, though an argument can be made for 800 calories.) since they seem to have that caloric imbalance from an early age, this means that they receive at least twice the daily caloric intake. than they take in. 6. The caloric content of their meals (Based upon pictures of the food product, shakes, liquified versions of standard food) in at least 32 ounce cups, this means they are taking in at the very least 1800-2400 calories per day. 7. The waste seen in the scene where wall-e and eve wind up upon following the plant, suggests a massive infrastucture in which electronics, food, paper products, and so on are manufactured daily, which makes sense as the ship seems to have all the needed materials to manufacture and remain self sufficient. These are a few of the biggest problems. To me, their obesity, the food products they take in, and so on suggest that they have an outside food source. I'm reminded of replicators from Star Trek, which is technically possible, though requires automation to take base elements and turn them into sugars, carbohydrates, proteins, ammino acids, lipids, omega-3 fatty acids, and so on. Given that these can all be made in nature with no synthetic means required, it stands to reason that these can be replicated by machinery taking the base elements of carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen, and a few other this and that elements (like iron) all of which are readily abundant in the Kuiper belt as ammonia, methane, water (ice) and so on.
Alternate theory: since MatPat even said that the capt was incompetent, maybe the robots automate a veggie farm, and the bodies, like Mat said, could’ve easily been burnt, therefore no cannibalism
The ashes could actually have been used to fertilize the soil, and with human feces that, btw, need to be expelled, and as MatPat pointed, there was no biomass in the big trash
@@randmstrnger176 That depends. Many veggies are not, but starchy vegetables, sweet or fatty fruits do have a lot of calories. For example potatoes, melons, berries, nuts, avocados, coconuts.
And only knowing that a human body contains about 100k calories doesn't mean much. For an average person a human body would give enough energy for about 50 days. For overweight people even less. 4 generations of people over 700 years can not be explained only by cannibalism, there must be some kind of food production on board.
Either you forgot that matpat said that human bodies are densely caloric, which explains the humans being overweight, not just because of their inactivity. Or you didnt watch the whole theory
if the people were recycling each other for food they would still run out of food before the movie. the people are still using energy via moving in there seats which is wasted in friction and a organism only give about 20% of its energy when eaten
Wait, if they’re cannibals eating meat from other humans, how do they get the vitamins necessary to survive that would normally come from vegetables, fruits, et cetera?
See, this entire theory was bullshit, but he could of totally used those other ships as a counter argument, since he could have said that they're eating the remains of the people on other ships, since you would need much more than just the Axiom's people's bodies..
well there are the possibility's that they went and colonized a different plant out side of the belt or ration wars or mutiny... there are many possibility's and a lot of it most likely won't be explained unless they center a sequel around it
One think matpat forgot, there are different flavors. My personal theory is there is a big garden on board that grows the banana and apples for the smoothies and the dead bodies and used as fertilizer for the plants (Edit: 1. Thanks for the likes ❤️ 2. I don’t wanna repeat arguments so just look in my reply’s for ur answer if it’s there 3. I know matpat made a new theory of this with more proofs of cannibalism which I will say, is convincing but that doesn’t mean this theory is debunked, it just makes his not debunked)
then what’s the point of them going to earth? Yeah sure a land to walk on, but they can just stay in the ship. It ruins the whole point of the operation. edit- just realized that the main plot of the story is to go to earth to live. Nevertheless using flesh as a fertilizer is very inefficient due to most compost heap volume contains leftover crop fibre that is not edible.
@@robertnussberger2028 But how are they made tho. Artificial flavoring uses a lot of different chemicals and still uses some natural foods to make them
@@astrokitty.404 that’s not true. The reason the plant was so important is because they saw that earth was once again inhabited by life. Also the captain or passengers don’t leave their chair to even monitor the garden as Auto does it for them
6:57: As a kid, I always imagined they pulled a Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs and had a big ol machine like Flint Lockwood’s device to turn water into food, since it is WAAAYYY in the future.
Stupid question: The time on earth does not look as if 700 years have passed. There is still paper and garbage on the ground which would have been long gone. Could it be possible, due to changes in gravity, that the axiom experienced faster time?
If by changes in gravity you mean due to mass increasing with velocity, then yes. If you mean because the gravity on the Axiom was ostensibly lower than that of Earth's, then no because the mass of Earth isn't enough to significantly warp space-time.
I actually found this cause my math teacher was watching wall-e with us and was like: "the smoothies are people, look it up" or some shit. I respect him
Wow do they watch matpat too
Matty is another teacher except 100X darker. XD
Class theory: your math teacher is actually matpat
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I'm about to end those children's whole childhood
I’m assuming you’ve come from the zootopia video
@@hermitcat332 since company make a some one childhood video game
Imagine Disney watching this and being like: Oh I didn’t mean it like that. It’s just a coincidence.
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Mickey mouse: YOU WILL *NEVER* KNOW THE *TRUTH*! Aha! (everything turns red, mikeys face melts in flame and you see his flesh, then his skull and kat.)
Better yet... The fbi will make them "open up"
Disney: he... he... got it
POV: You’ve been watching a lot of MatPat’s newer videos, and you decide to revisit this one but are caught off guard by how long the theme song is.
So true
Yep
@@ahmedumer4191 too true
That's what we call your ADHD kicking in the theme song was 20 secs hahahaha
Imagine not using sponsorblock
You also forgot at the beginning, they were eating solid foods, not stuff in a cup, which further proves this theory, because they were originally eating solid foods, not humans, and now they're just sipping from a cup.
Lol they can just make an artificial
Farm
By simulating an earth like environment
@@human3213 sorry pal they don't know what a plant is so come on how would they have this and not know what a plant is
@@Lucky-132 if otto can hide the fact that people are eating people, he can hide a farm.
But why hide the farm? Because if the capitain knew about it, he could have wanted to go back to earth.
Alright, ima say this, in the movie it literally says that they clone food. :/
Well, from what I’ve read from articles such as “Wikipedia”, National Geographic society” one possibility is atomic fusion. And while I don’t have evidence, if they can create a ship of that size, I assume that they have figured out atomic fusion which could create enough energy, somehow to make food, plus, it’s a movie and the captain literally said something around the words of “food cloning procedures?” “Check”.
Disney/pixar: just trying to make an animated movie without mat-pat ruining it.
Matpat: YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!!!
actually they have already done it and
that is wall-e it self,
Didn't anybody realise ?
That,at 09:43 he said the magic word "coffee"
But anyways that's jut a theory
A fan's fan theory
MADPATS SAID KIRBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY INSTEAD
Wait is there a human poop coffee? Because in some country other uses animal maybe human poop can be turn to coffee
@@xenonelysian5160 yha ,the world's most expensive coffee ,but problem is
they are taking the undigested coffee civet cat ate before
So there has to be plant's anyway
And I'm prity sure that we can't make coffee from human poop☕
To be honest, mat pat made my childhood much better
Pixar confirmed this theory maby by mistake? On Disney plus there's a show called pixar in real life and on on of the second wall-e episode. They said "you don't want to know how it's made" when they were selling bnl drinks!
All so mat pat is the best
*oh no...*
the regenerative food buffet would like to have a word with you
Where did what come from
Lol
I love how no one ever seems to mention that Wall-E is the closest we are gonna get to a live action Pixar movie
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Good
How dark do you want this theory to be?
Matpat: Yes
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Zoko Dog you are literally 4
Probably guna kill me and I'm just 8
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What's more scarier is that the humans ended up going from real life to CGI
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It's just scarier not more scarier, it's like saying something is more better
Five nights as freddyyy~
As scary as coming out of the caves for our ancestors, it'll happen, a big change is always the one to be feard, by who knows what it might bring.
@@johnhostetler2167 🤓
My theory:
There must be a farm or greenhouse somewhere on the ship producing food and also oxygen for the ship. The humans wouldn't know about it, since the robots run everything. Dead bodies and feces would be used as fertilizer.
Reptillian Squid That's a nice (And less depressing idea) But if that's the case, why is the plant so special?
+julianx2rl Because the growth of a plant shows that Earth has healed enough to support life again.
julianx2rl because presenting the plant to the correct sensor triggers the resettlement
Because it shows that the earth is capable of sustaining life again or at least coming close. I swear, it's like matpat didn't even bother watching the movie...
Robert Szasz But wouldn't any plant be able to get that done?
Well, there are a few things that were completely left out, so most likely the food comes from plants.
1. You still need to create Oxygen. Of course they could create Oxygen with water, but they would still need to deal with the hydrogen. Also they need to deal with the CO2 create by the humans. So either they just dump it out into space, leaving solid junks of CO2 floating trough space, or they have plants that use the CO2 to create Oxygen.
2. The calories don't just create themselves. A human uses calories just by existing. So with every "cycle" of a human dying, getting turned into food and than getting eaten until the consumer dies you will loose quite a lot of calories.
If we say that the humans are mostly inactive and are actually gaining weight we can go with an average intake of 2.500 calories a day per human (The average daily consumption over the whole life).
With a lifespan of up to 200 years like said we can go with 150 years.
So every human on board would need around 109.500.000 calories trough their whole life.
This would mean that to feed one human they would need around 1.368 dead humans (going from 80.000 calories per human).
So if we simplify this very much and say the food lastet the first generation of humans until their death and second generation also consists of exactly 600.000 humans than the third generation could only be around 438 humans.
So unless there is a human slaughterhouse on the ship that kills a lot of humans before their natural lifespan it is most likely that the dead body's are used as fertilizer to grow plants.
cant ur grow algie with just the water n sun or something n use dead bodies and a start to grow it, or the ants that grow there own fungius
@@karls8103Isn't Algie a sort of plant?
Aren't there like no plants on there? (Captains lack of knowledge about plants)
@@tinyratdudeartificial plants
Yeah there's prolly some sort of mechanized process, probably just direct chemical food printing technology. In all likelihood they chemically digest all organic waste, using the nuclear energy to convert it to food. For all we know they have a bacterial biome engineered entirely for this purpose. What doesn't make sense is if you could do this, you could optimize food for human health, or even genetically alter humans to singularly enjoy a healthy diet
While everyone is taking a staunch stand against this theory, I'm just going to point out the funny irony at the beginning...
Potassium Benzoate is a food preservative, yes, and it's found in Diet Coke. Guess who's addicted to Diet Coke.
xFirebird925x America?
ETK I-Series MatPat is...
xFirebird925x Who?
Ya boi matpat that's who!!!
ETK I-Series They were thinking about Mat I assume.
Anyone else notice that there is not a single elderly person in wall-e?
Lol maybe it's like Matched and they kill the old.
No one lived long enough to get old. Not on that diet.
@@Zenzu-kp8dt then what about the 200-year life spans of the captains?
@@mickeyd2034 What about them? Even if the passengers had the same lifespan that's still a lot of dead bodies. And, that means the need even more food for people because they are living so long.
@@Zenzu-kp8dt haha yeah I just thought you were saying that they weren't living old XD my mistake sorry
Disney: Makes an animated movie about a cute robot stranded on Earth thousands of years into the future.
MatPat: Cannibalsim!
Pretty much
Cannibalsim.....
Seriously the spelling man
its hundreds not thousands
Hundreds not thousands
Hundreds not thousands
Also I realised, Wall-E was looking down on the Milky Way in one of the scenes, which means they left the galaxy after 700 years. That’s pretty advanced, so why didn’t they just go to the closest habitat planet, Proxima B which is only 4.2 light years away.
Proxima b actually isn't habitable. We haven't found a habitable exo-planet...yet.
@ Really? I thought since they said it was earth-like that it meant it was habitable. Guess they just meant appearance.
@@GXWillow2 there's alot of factors to be habitable. Proxima b most likely is a gas planet of just full of water.
Disney: * Makes kid movie*
Matpat: Im about to end this mans whole career
Haha
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good one
It IS kid friendly!!! WINK WINK
Mickey Mouse r/woooosh
Rewatching a year later and realized that the ship makers fully intented for the cruise to be longer than 5 years
Bruh, I just realized this was made in 2016 xD.
3 years
If they were smart about it they would have small farms on that ship
@Hi, Nice To Meet You Perhaps there's an atom recombiner area where you can make nutritious mush on board?
@@-.dashin.- space food made from people dead body
Man. You must have a weird search history
Ikr
yes i do think that
53 seconds ago
-How to cook a human body
-Average calories in Human Body
-How to mask the taste of Human Flesh
-Should I stop overthinking a kids Movie about robot love?
Luke - Ario yeah he overthinks things
Rip to the legend MatPat🪦
Rest Well Soldier, thank you for my childhood🥹
He didn't die. He just retired (And even then he's still in GTLive)
I wanna see his search history
“How many calories are in a human body?
How do I mask the flavor of a human body?”
The FBI might be on him
@@mamamonster1980 *might?*
@@creativename773 yeah fair, the FBI is on him
Ikr
@@mamamonster1980 no we arent
I'm scared of what MatPat's search history looks like
I have a feeling the NSA has seen everything. I wouldn't be surprised if MatPat is on a watch list.
@@psycho01cb same
FBI - send help
His FBI agent must be very entertained at the very least while also being concerned XD
Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
Its weird that all the captains slowly turn into animated humans
WHAT HAPPENED
Its wierd looking
Bone density decreased, lack of exercise....
They were getting fatter
@@charlottefitton6518 that doesn't make any sense the ship literally has a Gym though
I would like, but you have 420 likes
My girl was 100% bought by this theory 😂😂 now watching this video, I'm feeling bad for MatPats arm for reaching so far.
Most of the people alive wouldn't know how the real food ever tasted so they can be easily fooled by the robots
good point
+
Fazza l Clash Royale & More they could literally throw a piece of a dead human at them and call it a cupcake and they wouldn't know the difference
TatzRules Yay How do you know?????
He's a knower.
Did anyone else notice while watching the movie the captain mentions about a food regeneration system during the morning scene...
I thought that’s how they get food
Owen Sanderson cudxt/
Conservation of energy kind of mandates that they have a way of converting electric energy into calories.
If they survived only through cannibalism, they would need to eat over 7000 people per day. Then you need more people to feed the extra people, and all told it's more people than atoms in the Universe.
I DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@ajh3461 Thank you I didnt wanted to write a long comment about the energy loss in the chemical reactions, this would be an perpetum mobile hes talking about
So, MatPat could be right with this whole analysis and theory about food regeneration and cannibalism or, Disney could have just pulled a "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs" and straight up turned water into food.........
Well, you do have a good point with that there. If they're in the 28th century, then scientists must have found a way of artificially creating the chemical bonds in calories, carbohydrates, etc and such that you'd find in your food.
Wait so they choose to feed them that... o h g o d
BNL brainwashed people fl
all into everything luxury
@@ZeroFusion28 no
What is stopping the hydrogenation mutations from mutating the food
There are 2 points I found when researching this topic.
1: If the captain has only ever seen pizza once, then how does he know it tastes good?
2: On the breakfast signs, why do they show solid foods instead of the foods they put in the movie? It wouldn't make sense.
He had a pizza drink
Same reason McDonald's shows pictures of tasty, juicy, plump fresh patties in a crisp toasted bun... but sells you a big muck.
MatPat has taught me more about space in 15 minutes that’s my whole science life since first grade to the second yea rise of college
underrated comment
IKR
@@diec2338 I mean it’s true tho right?
u mean Flint Lockwood
Same, this is insane
Someone on board: hey can you cremate me when I die?
Auto: sure!
The person on board as a ghost watching as they cook and serve to other passengers: that is NOT what I meant
imagine the ghost when they asked to be buried
@@hobobobo3204 we can living in a cyberpunk sprawl city retail more stuffing
I’m still wondering about how he gets his coffee if there’s no way of growing it
You do have a point
@Elliot Marchand Oh no
C O F F E E B E A N S
Human juice
Dog Miner426 true true 😔
I really like the animation style from this video and the general feeling of this age of matpat. I loved this video specifically so much when I was younger Rip Ronnie Fr Fr. I’m gonna miss mats videos 🙏
My question is how do the captains of the ship slowly go from human to animated
Technology advancement. How do you think they have managed to live so long? Cus they're cartoons.
@@DemBigOlEyes Lol live so long? Their lives are slowly shortening
Me too!!!
Pixar Magic
I feel you
Plot twist: The guy from cloudy with a chance of meatballs was on the ship
Lol u made My day!
looking for this haha
Swiss Danish cloudy isn't from Pixar you dumb dumb
Jack Scarow did he say he was from pixar? NO
Swiss Danish but where are the clouds
So WALLE Pretty much stopped them from eating each other by going to earth. WALLE IS STILL A HERO!
FirePhoenix well yes
FirePhoenix so I learned if we eat each other for several centuries, we turn into fatties
they could have had farms on the ship.
that is a good possibility.
wouldnt be viable to farm for that many people in a spaceship, there would be a space problem in it unless tere was a farming space station which we cant know if exist or not, but look the "dont attack the titans theory"
YAS! Wall E is always the hero!
2:23 700 anniversary for the 5 year cruise lol
Once you start watching this you can’t stop.
True
Tru
Tru
69 like :)
Tru
So, if the captain didn't even know where the food came from, wouldn't that justify him not recognizing a plant?
That makes sense
Also, why are dead bodies a problem? They can just shoot them into space, we just don't see it. This theory seems to take a lot of "i dont see x, so y". And feeding on your own flesh just doesn't work because heat loss/basic physics
@@cyberschn1tzel997
But why are they so overweight.
Why are they only drinking liquids with a straw.
This theory covered everything that a needed to know that these people are cannibals.
@@IMITZU maybe but matpat contradicted himself in his next wall e theory about how the company that made the ship is only feeding them food they made. In this theory he says the robots (there from a different company) are the ones who are feeding the people.
@@blitzgaming9561 Uh, no? ALL of the robots in Wall-E are from BnL
A few years ago my class was watching wall-E and once class ended some kid said to his friends "did you know everyone on the ship are cannibals?" And I remember thinking to my self I've found my fellow theorists
Bit of a random story but thought I'd share
@Lovehearts xoxo
*SIGH*
I wish I had friends like that
😿😢
@@memowl3663 I wish I had freinds
I wish I could trust other human beings like that
I wish I had friends that are always my friend
Same here... (cue the forever alone emoji 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺)
I am from the future and 7 years from now matpat will retire and we will never see him again
😭😭😭
“cut through the next scene Ronnie, cut through the next scene.” R.I.P Ronnie
I know...
WTF you idiot
@@Shotos.Cottoncandy_
No need to be rude
Alright, *who cut the onions???*
He will always be in our hearts
Kid named *the next Scene* : ...
by the way, there is also not a single scene where you see a single person with grey hair or dry skin. that could mean two things. Either they don't grow old, which is not the case considering the fact that there have been several captains, or, it could mean that something happens before the human reaches a certain age...
bladewolf VII it is because of how overweight they are. It makes them die earlier than people who are in shape.
Synthronx // that could be it but would be less fun
bladewolf VII true
if you look at the dates on the captain pictures, youll see that they actually live longer.
ashley rivera dates are fakable. otto could easily change the data to avoid suspicion.
“Cut to the next scene Ronnie”
Me:*starts crying cause I miss Ronnie*
Oh man me to RIP
I was just about to say something like this
I have been looking so hard for this comment thank you
I'm so very sorry for not knowing but, who is Ronnie? (Sorry I'm an idiot)
I think if I'm not wrong ronny is their animator or video editor but he killed him self
bro i fell sleep watching a @CGPGrey video and i woke up when i heard film theory's theme song of this video, thank you for saving me matpat! you woke me up from my longer-than-enough rest, cuz i still have stuff do to
wait, if 600000 passengers were allowed on the axiom, that means literally BILLIONS of people were left to die on earth... damn wall-e is hella dark
what if there were more than one of them?
There's probably more spaceships but everyone most likely wasn't rescued.
More than one ship
there were multiple ships
bro there was a lot more ships then just the Axiom that was the star of the fleet , only the very wealthy could afford it there must have been BILLIONS OF SHIPS
This was one of my favorite movies of all time. If the developers of Wall-E actually intended to have all these hints to show cannibalism, I think this may be my favorite movie again. That would be one of the darkest implications I have ever seen in a movie without anyone picking up on it for years. xD
Tacet the Terror
1000% love
Tacet the Terror same
Tacet the Terro
People started picking it out since it's released... well, For me...
Tacet the Terro
Also there are around 3-4 ships that went to space but came back with only 1
Watch Super Carlin brothers video Onward
You won't regret it
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Thats what i was wondering when i finished rewatching this movie tonight. Where are those other ships and what happened to them?
BlueShooter this is true
MY THEORY OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM
1 the robots turned on them
2 they ate each other until there was only one person left so they slowly died of starvation or commited suicide bc they didn't wanna starv-......sh-CRAP im turning into matpat ....wait THE ONLY THING LEFT TO TEST IS MY SEARCH HISTORY.........FUC-
The captain doesn’t even know how the controls of the ship work, so it wouldn’t be that crazy to assume that he doesn’t remember that there are farms or animals on board as those are tasks that could be taken care of by the robots. as for the reason there’s no elderly people it’s not beyond the Relm of possibility that they have some kind of retirement home.
In Wall-E, when the captain wakes up and realizes that it's lunch time, then changes the time to morning, he checks all of the systems. one of these systems include a regenerative buffet. The captain asks about it, and auto tells him that it's clear. That means there's a regenerative buffet that "regenerates food" for a spaceship that they planned would last more than 5 years.
In the movie, there's a video where the person on the video talks to auto saying that if life is found on Earth, he should send it away and prevent the humans from returning to Earth. This means that BnL planned for the spaceship would last for far more than 5 years. Therefore, the people aren't eating the dead people of the past.
also how do the people make babies if they're always sitting
lol
Sit ups
It’s obviously a joke
Trought the stomache.
You’re kinda missing the point and fun of a theory video.
Parents: why dont you watch anything educational?
Me: I do.
Parents: what channels?
Me:film theory/Mat pat
Amber Tranchitella I made this 100
My mom on me : ok your 11 and a good kid (step)dad : JACKIE ,JAIDYN IS WACTHING INAPPROPRIATE STUFF mom on lizzy: stop don't wacht that lizzys dad: ok you wacht that LIZZY SIX
awesome sause r/ihadastroke
Good one
Same
I thought this was gonna be about how wall-e was taking parts from the other trash robot. I was so wrong.
same
Brook Skeleton that's what I thought too
@@elizabethmitchell7453 take from other wall-e actually that robot is a sentient how to turning trash into something useful for themselves
ngl this is a cult classic of the film theory also the first film theory i ever watch. bye matpat
Film Theory: Does Mike Wazowski blink or wink?
This better be the April fools episode.
It's November....
I mean when the time comes.
Kipster That is the most creative theory ever XD
*When you steal a joke from an ifunny top comment*
"Cut to the next scene Roni" 1:35 - May you Rest In Piece forever Roni Oni Edwards! 🙏
Scene
I just watched this episode today, heard the part with Ronnie and yeah.. it really screwed up my morning.
And I thought this was gonna be about how Wall-E killed all the other Wall-E's on the planet for their parts...
Oh he definitely did it's a main plot point ex. When he took his treads off and put new ones on, and when his eye broke he just straight up got a new one. So he didn't cause it already said so.
I’ve never seen Wall-E…and now I never will
Nooo it’s such a good movie
"Today Is The 1 Year Anniversary Of Our 2 Week Covid-19 Lockdown"
Edit: "Today is the 2 year anniversary of our 2 week Covid-19 lockdown"
This made my fucking day lol
Mine is a year and 5 weeks
* mentally cries *
My country had anniversary at march XD
@@dominikpazdera2643 oh
The only person who lived through all of that and didn't die: Queen Elizabeth
Dizzyleafu- tail lol
lmfao
😂
Well shes a vampire so obviously she did
And karolina zebrowska
(Only people that watch her know why).
When are you going to make a theory about cloudy with a chance of meatballs and how he could make food out of water, since this can revolutionize how we can save up resources
Atom splitting and fusion. That's it.
Wow, but how do they manage to get the taste, changing atoms might make it look like a burger, but the taste, how does it manage to change it from water to burger, or cupcake, In the movie it doesn't say that the scientist is putting other stuff in, only water
@@gld_ow If atoms are exposed to enough energy, they can actually become different elements. In stars, atoms fuse into heavier elements like hydrogen into helium. So maybe thats how the food machine works
Like a food-nado that it made it was practically a black hole ijntge clouds not a real one but shure felt like it but inntge center we find that thing looking like a organ just spewing food gross
Change your name nerd
miss the old school editing sometimes, rest in peace ronnie 🩷
"When the food supply is depleted...These uh civilised people, they will eat each other. See I'm not a theorist, I'm just ahead of the curve" -Matpat 2016
The Dark Knight
Oh yeah
@NonBinaryMusic He’s left the chat.😂
And a few years later, he made a part 2 😲
Lmaoooooo, i was looking for this comment
@@mrrandom5617 right, I was looking all over for it, eventually I knew I had to go all Thanos "fine I'll do it myself" mode, I'm surprised no one else did it, or of they did, why it was hard finding it
Yep
Yeah, lol. this is very interesting so I just had to see this one.
yes sr
No one:
No one at all:
Matpat: your favorite childhood movie is riddled with cannibalism and bunnies are on crack
Theory debunked. Half the population would have to die every day to supply enough food for the people to be that fat. They can't keep that up for 695 years. See my theory ruin comment for details.
@@imperfect_ten ahem no the humans need about 2500-3000 calories everyday to gain weight and even 5000 to get that fat and the people should fit 100k or more calories which would mean that one in 20 people would have to die and in real life 4 people are born in a second 2 die so there would be so many bodies over they couldnt even eat
@@arttuvarinen3022 Sure, but still, think about it. At the time we see them they are super fat. No one even communicates face to face, so how are babies even being made in the first place? How do kids exist in this? What's most plausible is that just like the captain said in the movie, there is a regenerative food buffet and since they have a regenerator device why couldn't they regenerate people?
@@imperfect_ten Let me debunk you instead. Ever heard of test-tube babies? And second, the people on the Axium doesn't use as many calories as regular people since they are lazy as f (now).
Consider this theory: Most passengers start out as healthy, normal people on a casual flight with all their essentials taken care of. However as time goes on and supplies diminish, Otto begins changing their diet and reducing the otherwise healthy food with junk that can still sustain them, but not energise them hence their slow descend to laziness. The less they exercise, the fatter they become since the calories they consume aren't just unhealthy in the first place, it also has no means of being burnt off. Every generation it gets worse, little by little as shown by the captain's portraits. Sure, advanced medical technology kept them alive and free from most illnesses but whatever lifespan they have are spent lounging around. But they die eventually, each dead body begins containing more and more empty calories which Otto sees as a waste of recyclable resources. At this point, real food is pretty much gone, no matter how much Otto skimps or changes their dietary intake, he knew he had to find some way to keep the humans on board alive and away from earth, thus leading to Mat's theory.
@@DemBigOlEyes First of all, the robot's name is Auto. Not Otto. Just clarifying. Second, if they have enough space for that many test tubes, why not have farms too? There were TONS of Axioms that took off in the first place, (as seen in the ads for the Axioms near the beginning of the movie) why not devote one to farms? However, there is the issue of there's only one left at the time the movie takes place, but they could have easily taken apart some of the other Axioms for parts for the cloning machine/regenerative food buffet that the captain said about. And if they can generate babies, it's pretty safe to assume that with their tech they can generate food anyway. And, closing question, let me ask you this. How does MatPat's theory say that it will FLAVOR the human meat? Flavoring takes materials.
This is the first video I watched of MatPat, I will miss him.
I was eating when I started watching this,
And still eating at the end.
Me too xD
I’m kinda hungry now :D..
And I'm suddenly feeling peckish...
oof
How do you eat for 15 mins and 16 seconds
An interesting note. If they're in the kupier belt, that's full of comets and condratic asteroids. Basically literally tons of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. CHON makes up all the building blocks for food. With some basic food synthesis, you've got all the foods you'd ever need
3d printing?
If you mean that they would 3D print food from CHON then yeah,but if you mean “they could just 3D print food” then no.
that makes lots of sense, especially when you consider that they're an advanced society with technology we can only dream of. Maybe they mix chemicals and proteins together to make the cupcakes in a cup.
Burgar made of plastic?
Hmm my favorite!
6:45
When I clicked on the vid, I thought it was about Wall-E using his buddy’s body parts......
Well matpat, you reeeaaallllyyyy delivered.
I thought so too
69th like
Well yes,but realy nah.....
*dys
Actually, clips in the movie show walle taking parts from his dead counterparts and using them as spare parts. He used another walle robots eye lenses to replace his.
Lucas Chan Thank you for explaining the point of the comment to everyone
Just binged watching old mat pat videos before he retires
*sees the title and thumb nail*
...... i have questions
Watch the video and you might get answers.
The Commenter was I have questions before watching even a minute of the video
The Commenter one of them being... If Wall-E is a cannibal what does him eating humans have to do with that? He's a robot so eating a human isn't cannibalism lol
The Commenter dont we all
=/
Speaking of the thumbnail it's the third creepiest thumbnail I've seen on this channel
You know I've always wondered...where are the rest of the humans? In the beginning we see that more than one Axiom-like ship leave Earrh...we also see in the A113 clip that the BnL president says "Let's get the heck out of here" implying he and the humans who stayed behind left as well...so where did they go? Are they still out in space?
Wonder how they would feel if they found out
@@TheRealWoopSlap probably all starved because they found out about the cannibalism
They were *upgraded* - Into toys. Into cars. Cybermen style.
Auto be like: “I am the ship.”
I am the senate
@@thecringelord5525 unlimited poweeer
It’s treason then
no hes like
"I am the captain now!"
He is the ship
*Disney makes a movie*
Matpat: DRUGS! DEATH! KFC!
He ruins my childhood, yet I still watch all his game theory's😂
I loved walle =[
Wally Gator welcome to FILM theory
Wally Gator yeah I guess it's all for entertainment or is it?
Wally Gator don't forget that the cap doesn't know much of the axiom for example the jogging course
PlayTime Auditorium it is for intertament so he could get fame for "solving" a mystery it's called acting bro
“Kids movie exists”
MATPAT: im bout to end this mans whole career!
What about........ I’m bout to end this whole child’s future!
Is matpat on some kind of watchlist?
FBI what's up?
You subscribed to MatPat yet?
Can you stop spying on me.
MatPat:I’m gunna end this movie whole career
title: Film Theory: Wall-E's Unseen CANNIBALISM!
what i thought: wall-e eating other wall-es
thumbnail: wall-e eating human
We only see one lonely Wall-E. You might not be wrong.
Pretty sure that is in the film in a way. I remember there's a scene where one of Wall-e's tracks is a little worn out and he finds a defunct model and then the very next scene both of his tracks are in perfect condition.
@@aldrinspade next idea theory:
tomorrow what is look like a fermi paradox of alien civillzation
*ONLY THE FITTEST SURVIVE.*
Cannibal means eating its own kind
14 days until this video is exactly 8 years old.
Hey, my fiancé and I just watched Wall-E, then your theories. Could you do one on where the kids come from? It's bugging us both.
I did not need to see that image in my mind......
What?
@@danieladiaz6800 They meant how are new children born since no one seems to be interacting with others.
@@AxisChurchDevotee no no, i get that. But why would that be a theory?
Cmon, these potato sacks must crave eating something else than cupcake in a cup 😁
@@danieladiaz6800 To some food is more important then physical contact
"Today Is The 700th Anniversary Of Our 5 Year Cruise," America in a nutshell
The obesity rate went down, check ya facts
@@steve_the_vehicon632 their comment had nothing to do with obesity but aight
@@flyrockarts then what is it about
@@steve_the_vehicon632 it's about the joke about how the voyage is longer than it was supposed to be
@@steve_the_vehicon632 there is no possible word in that sentence, that could be interpreted as something to do with obesity
Mat pat: I’m not eating potassium benzoate!
*me finding out that Diet Coke has potassium benzoate*
hes not eating it; he didnt say anything about drinking it
Lol!
I think it was the fact that potassium benzoate was PAIRED with human flesh, because he was talking about it and then saw the flesh thing. Its probably harmless
Anessia Rice r/wooosh
@@nightingalelikeart3772 yeah,
ur right lol
But I DID laugh
I just thought ab it after
...I'm talking too much again 🤦♀️
Can turn water into food - Flint Lockwood
Lockdown be like: welcome to our 700 year anniversary of our 5 year cruise
yes
So true
Somebody already said that
Welcome to day 255 642 aboard on the quarantine
2 weeks actually not 5 years
They used the machine from Cloudy with a chance of meatballs
Well all they need is water
@DrKlRd mostly they use water from the asteroids meteorites that has ice crystals
Remember that Disney and DreamWorks are rivals. Still a good idea though.
Nathan Caldwell cloudy is not from dreamworks
Put aside whatever is happening here, anyone else cry when watching wall.e?
Me: *sees intro*
Also Me: *stares at cookie*
Me Again: *eats cookie anyway*
Lololololololololollolol!!!!
I like cookies
You forgot to mention no Slaughter House or that they were blinded by those screens, eitherway still makes the most sense.
I can see them using corpses as the base for a compost, but a canabalistic food stuff would be unsustainable. they'd run out of food in less than 2 years.
The conservation of energy means that if your having humans diffusing usable energy as humans do, you have to imput usable energy in the food supply. This is only possible with chemosynthisis, photosynthesis, or some equivalent process. Sure, you could use human waste and dead humans to help grow crops, but some sort of organic processing via a producer, or perhaps an electronic means of reducing chemical agents is nessasary. If you change human flesh enough for it to be a viable foodstuff, it's more rational to classify it as composting.
Around ten people would die per day. Since they likely do multiple dumps of trash a day, it's fair to approximate 1 or 2 corpses per dump. Since the cubes are huge, and we only see a portion of their surface, it's very unlikely we'd see the corspe. Also, there's no guarantee there's not a star trek 2 type launch bay for corspes somewhere on the enormous axiom that we only see a small part of. Also, it would be way more efficient to use bacteria or protists to produce chemicals from human waste that could be used as a food stuff. Or a genetically motified form of chicken cells that turn poop into chicken breasts. Or you could splice yeast and wheat to make a bread forming strain of protist. The list of ways crops could exist without plants or animals are pretty big.
Mysterious ways of doing my homework for you
my thoughts exactly, I very much doubt that they could have been able to survive on only human meat. which would mean that there is a farm somewhere on board.
Even for 5 years worth of food I would prefer putting a farm on the ship than pure food if you are taking half a million people.
+VengfulDarkness true they cnat survive solely on human meat but also why do they have electrical trees around teh axiom "ELECTRICAL" if they have a farm why dont plant real trees
I'm in a state of shock as I witness my childhood disappear
There are major flaws with the argument though.
Amy Such as....
Come on you can't just leave me hanging 😂
film theory : want to see a magic trick. us:okay film theory: poof your childhood disappeared
***** Ok here's some huge problems:
1. They are next to a massive cloud in space. Revealed to be a segment of the Kuiper belt. The kuiper belt is full of elements that can be chemically made into proteins, carbohydrates, proteins, vitamins, and chelated minerals.
2. The amount of waste being cast out into space indicates that this is an open system.
3. The population would have a reducing return per lifetime given these starting numbers of people. If they were being recycled into food, then fed to each other, then that would mean that each body would have to be processed into lipids, carbohydrates, and so on. With the wasteful nature of the people, the population would be reduced by an 8th per generation. Given that this is 700 years past 0 year, that means that there would be less than 1000 people on the ship assuming a beginning population of 50,000 per ship (A low estimate) even then, the ship clearly had at least the same population if not more than the starting population. This means that the theory that people are recycled is increasingly unlikely.
4. The ships clearly have a warp system. This means that they have a fusion if not matter, anti-matter reaction systems. Which means that they can produce all the elements needed to include Iron, which is essential to long term diets.
5. The level of fat on each person indicates a caloric intake higher than 1200 calories per day (A more or less minimum for daily activity, though an argument can be made for 800 calories.) since they seem to have that caloric imbalance from an early age, this means that they receive at least twice the daily caloric intake. than they take in.
6. The caloric content of their meals (Based upon pictures of the food product, shakes, liquified versions of standard food) in at least 32 ounce cups, this means they are taking in at the very least 1800-2400 calories per day.
7. The waste seen in the scene where wall-e and eve wind up upon following the plant, suggests a massive infrastucture in which electronics, food, paper products, and so on are manufactured daily, which makes sense as the ship seems to have all the needed materials to manufacture and remain self sufficient.
These are a few of the biggest problems. To me, their obesity, the food products they take in, and so on suggest that they have an outside food source. I'm reminded of replicators from Star Trek, which is technically possible, though requires automation to take base elements and turn them into sugars, carbohydrates, proteins, ammino acids, lipids, omega-3 fatty acids, and so on. Given that these can all be made in nature with no synthetic means required, it stands to reason that these can be replicated by machinery taking the base elements of carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen, and a few other this and that elements (like iron) all of which are readily abundant in the Kuiper belt as ammonia, methane, water (ice) and so on.
The Bread Cat I understand
Alternate theory: since MatPat even said that the capt was incompetent, maybe the robots automate a veggie farm, and the bodies, like Mat said, could’ve easily been burnt, therefore no cannibalism
The ashes could actually have been used to fertilize the soil, and with human feces that, btw, need to be expelled, and as MatPat pointed, there was no biomass in the big trash
But wouldn’t that mean the people on board would just be frail? Not overweight
I mean, veggies and fruits are not that caloric are they?
@@randmstrnger176 That depends. Many veggies are not, but starchy vegetables, sweet or fatty fruits do have a lot of calories. For example potatoes, melons, berries, nuts, avocados, coconuts.
And only knowing that a human body contains about 100k calories doesn't mean much. For an average person a human body would give enough energy for about 50 days. For overweight people even less. 4 generations of people over 700 years can not be explained only by cannibalism, there must be some kind of food production on board.
Either you forgot that matpat said that human bodies are densely caloric, which explains the humans being overweight, not just because of their inactivity. Or you didnt watch the whole theory
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@@unknownastroid_2240 whys that so true tho-
But Mat Pat, couldn't they just mine the moon for cheese?
No
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Add the moon dimension in minecraft, sponges=cheese
Man gotta love the A113 refrence in the intro.
For people who don’t know A113 is the number of the storyboard room in Pixar
Yeah, there's an A113 joke in nearly every Pixar movie. Didn't know that was the name of a storyboard room
All movies have A113 also it said GT LIve
I thought it was a room at a university or something.
Lokomoqo from the movie, the shining! They always keep that reference, in. Every. Movie.
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if the people were recycling each other for food they would still run out of food before the movie. the people are still using energy via moving in there seats which is wasted in friction and a organism only give about 20% of its energy when eaten
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Wait, if they’re cannibals eating meat from other humans, how do they get the vitamins necessary to survive that would normally come from vegetables, fruits, et cetera?
Technically you can get all your vitamins and nutrients from meat although you do have to eat every part of the body like kidneys, liver and bladder
Plus evolution
delicous food made by robot is smarter than our brain?
They could have used an invention simmilar to the one in cloudy with a chance of meatballs where it turns water into food
Organ meat has all the vitamins we need. That's how the Inuits/Eskimos survive in those cold places that cannot grow greens.
Here's a better question...
Where's the rest of the ships that were launched?
IJN asking the real questions
See, this entire theory was bullshit, but he could of totally used those other ships as a counter argument, since he could have said that they're eating the remains of the people on other ships, since you would need much more than just the Axiom's people's bodies..
IJN hs bs for reals
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well there are the possibility's that they went and colonized a different plant out side of the belt or ration wars or mutiny... there are many possibility's and a lot of it most likely won't be explained unless they center a sequel around it
One think matpat forgot, there are different flavors. My personal theory is there is a big garden on board that grows the banana and apples for the smoothies and the dead bodies and used as fertilizer for the plants (Edit: 1. Thanks for the likes ❤️ 2. I don’t wanna repeat arguments so just look in my reply’s for ur answer if it’s there 3. I know matpat made a new theory of this with more proofs of cannibalism which I will say, is convincing but that doesn’t mean this theory is debunked, it just makes his not debunked)
then what’s the point of them going to earth? Yeah sure a land to walk on, but they can just stay in the ship. It ruins the whole point of the operation.
edit- just realized that the main plot of the story is to go to earth to live. Nevertheless using flesh as a fertilizer is very inefficient due to most compost heap volume contains leftover crop fibre that is not edible.
But what about artificial flavors? This is the future, right?
@@robertnussberger2028 But how are they made tho. Artificial flavoring uses a lot of different chemicals and still uses some natural foods to make them
they got no plants so
@@astrokitty.404 that’s not true. The reason the plant was so important is because they saw that earth was once again inhabited by life. Also the captain or passengers don’t leave their chair to even monitor the garden as Auto does it for them
6:57: As a kid, I always imagined they pulled a Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs and had a big ol machine like Flint Lockwood’s device to turn water into food, since it is WAAAYYY in the future.
Of course science would have a article saying how fattening we are if eaten cause cannibalism
Nicholas Postma it's sense
*An article
Paradraw Zombie I mean have u ever watched cloudy chance with meatballs they made food from water they could have did it that way but idk
She is rite
Hope Eikom *right
That’s is just a theory a film theory
Me: A very specific theory.
Pasta Linguine grammar pls
They're all specific.
Grammar? Hello?
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@@purestriver where?
Stupid question: The time on earth does not look as if 700 years have passed. There is still paper and garbage on the ground which would have been long gone. Could it be possible, due to changes in gravity, that the axiom experienced faster time?
that makes some sense actually.
yeah, good thought, but there recources won't make it cause they are bound to the time they experience and not the earths time
I mean yea it’s possible
Maybe. I think Matpat discussed how space time is much different than Earth time. Think he explained it in his Rosalina video
If by changes in gravity you mean due to mass increasing with velocity, then yes. If you mean because the gravity on the Axiom was ostensibly lower than that of Earth's, then no because the mass of Earth isn't enough to significantly warp space-time.
That potassium benzoate is a whole other theory video.