Dude you are a fckin beast fr and deserve 100,000,000 watchers you just tore a truck in two and put it back together all while re sealing an entire engine that’s a baller status in my book and in a matter of days is insane bravo my guy bravo and BY YOURSELF INSANE I wanna do this to mine but really don’t think I have the know how! Awsome job brotha
Your effort in this project is no less than enormous and excellent at the same time. I’ve been wrenching a long time but you just walk circles around me. Great job sir!
I'm about to do this to a 99. I didn't know that bit about the differences in the frames. The motor mount holes in the frame line up from the 6.0 to the 7.3 ?
Really good job. I agree with you totally, when you have something apart fix it right the first time.. I hate to have to redo a job. No such thing as too strong.
I can rebuild and update a 2002 F350 to a 2010 F350, but I can't fix the garage door so I can work inside. LOL This is so cool! I was wondering if it was possible and what it would take. Now everyone knows, thanks to you, it can be done fairly inexpensively. I think you're doing a super job and getting this truck updated. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
This was awesome. Thinking of just doing a 4wd leaf spring swap on my 02 lol, front hanger is there but can’t quite figure out the radius arm to hanger mount conversion lol
What do you think of the Swap Helper Cluster kit? It's $600 but takes minutes to install and uses all the functions. Unfortunately it also takes another $500 to make all the functions of the column work.
So if I do the same frame swap on my 2000 Excursion 7.3 4x4, could I reuse my original 2000 front axle by mounting it on the 2005 frame? I understand they have different bolt patterns.
@@Legend-fw6eb yeah man. Look around on Ford forums, like Powerstroke Nation, or The Diesel Stop. Those dudes can tell you more about how to do it. But it basically involves getting the front axle, and all the suspension linkages. Everything should bolt right up, except for the 04 steering pitman arm, to the 05 drag linkage. The 05 steering system uses bigger ball joints, so you’ll need to ream out the 04 pitman arm to fit the 05 drag link. You’ll also want an 05 rear axle, as well. Reason being the lug nuts are different, the brakes are bigger, and the track width is wider on the 05. So you’ll want both axles to match. Hope this helps, go to Powerstroke Nation forums if you wanna look more into it. Good luck on your build!
@@LimaTangoZulu awesome man great useful info, didn't know that about the pitman arm and drag linkage. I already have an 08 rear end, so this is the icing on that cake to finish the ride quality to how I want it. Read a couple of forums but that's one part I haven't seen. Getting everything needed except that subframe for $500, some cleaning painting and new hardware and hopefully it comes out nice in the next couple months.
@@Legend-fw6eb now a 2008 you will have to fight it a little more to make it work. I would go with a 05-07 axle to make it easier on yourself. Nobody would be the wiser lmao.
Nice explanation on the 05 front end swap integrity! You get that 05 frame cut in Jersey? Looks like one I was eying up on marketplace but became sold... too long of a drive from PA for me.
Yea I did but i'm glad i did. I could've done it to just drop the axle, but i was doing some engine work at the same time, and i got to paint the frame, and honestly to re-graft the frame to me was more worth it than to punch out the coil bucket rivets, and to drill the three holes up front in the cross member, and to adapt the other components. In the end the steering gear box and everything was already in place ready to go and meant to be on this frame, so I didnt mind it.
Would like to see you actually do the work instead of jumping from one step to the next would like to see you do the work I wanna do the front frame section swap and would like to see some pointers
Craig Hunter I would have, but it would’ve been a 5 day video if I showed every little step along the way lol. That’s why I shortened it to steps since I think it’s doable with what I said and to watch without gettin too bored! What questions do you have I can answer them.
@@Jimmyziggy I have a question. I have an 01 f250 7.3 4x4 long bed crew. My truck got hit and the frame is bent and a bit rusty. Can I do a full frame swap to a 2005? Or is there differences in the back half of the frame as well?
Thank you. It’s a lot to do it this way. A lot of people just pull the axle and swap it with the bed one and mount the coil buckets and radius arms which is fine too i be heard. I just felt safer pulling the cab and changing the front section for the reinforced frame from the later year.
G Gg Haha of course i can. The framing and structure was getting redone so the rails and stuff weren’t in place. if it was that easy i would’ve just done it
Beagler Bass Fishing & Outdoors I know that, a lot of people have questioned me on it. In the video i explain why: the frames are different from 05-07. Much beefier to support all the weight of the coil spring on the cross member. Old frames cracked during testing so Ford updated it. Sure people have gotten away with just swapping the brackets but I don’t like taking chances going against the way the 4wd coil setup was designed with the frame. I know all the holes are there and everything, but that’s for the 2wd version, a much less rated version of suspension than the newer 4wd axle.
Beagler Bass Fishing & Outdoors Beagler Bass Fishing & Outdoors I’m not disagreeing with you there. My point is that the leaf spring contacts in two spots on the frame, whereas the coil spring makes contact at one. The force distribution is a lot different therefore. Hence why they supported it more where the coilspring makes contact. One day I can make a video more explaining my thoughts and calculations
The issue isn't the weight. The leaf's put the load force straight up into the frame while the spring buckets try and twist the frame towards the engine. This force is s why spring tower supports are put onto vehicles like rally cars.
Matt Smith Because if you look at the 2wd components, they are much less rated than the 4wd version from 2005+. And it also takes into account the nature of a 4wd truck versus a 2wd truck. People are more likely to off-road in a 4wd truck which adds more force and impact as you can imagine. Do many people do it? No, but it gets factored in. Also think about plowing, the extra weight of a plow on a 4wd vehicle, that cause more stress on the front end. People don’t plow in 2wd vehicles (well most people don’t in these trucks at least). The frames were fine for the 2wd coil springs, up until testing and analysis were performed on the 4wd version of the coil springs and estimated loads and occurrences with it. It’s also about material fatigue and internal deformation of the material over time too. I can go on further, but I will make a video explaining it all one day eventually. I’m not trying to scare anyone here who’s thinking or has done an axle swap, I’m just looking at it from an engineering standpoint, because that’s what I am - I have studied and dealt with the ways material failures could occur similar to situations like this.
The reason more so being that the 2wd SD’s use TIB still with two points of contact (pivots) vs a live axle front axle. To be honest with you I don’t believe it was a huge issue either way. I believe the engine crossmember gussets came about with many changes from Ford trying to stiffen the frames of the 05+ trucks up over the 99-04. If I recall correctly they also changed the frame thickness in the change over as well.
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I like your attitude.
Dude you are a fckin beast fr and deserve 100,000,000 watchers you just tore a truck in two and put it back together all while re sealing an entire engine that’s a baller status in my book and in a matter of days is insane bravo my guy bravo and BY YOURSELF INSANE I wanna do this to mine but really don’t think I have the know how! Awsome job brotha
Your effort in this project is no less than enormous and excellent at the same time. I’ve been wrenching a long time but you just walk circles around me. Great job sir!
I'm about to do this to a 99. I didn't know that bit about the differences in the frames. The motor mount holes in the frame line up from the 6.0 to the 7.3 ?
Really good job. I agree with you totally, when you have something apart fix it right the first time.. I hate to have to redo a job. No such thing as too strong.
Leroy Routt Thank you!
Really enjoyed the video man, glad someone else with an 02 was thinking like me🤣
I can rebuild and update a 2002 F350 to a 2010 F350, but I can't fix the garage door so I can work inside. LOL
This is so cool! I was wondering if it was possible and what it would take. Now everyone knows, thanks to you, it can be done fairly inexpensively. I think you're doing a super job and getting this truck updated. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Great job!! Bravo!
Great point about the frame differences and the reason for using the oem split technique like powerstrokehelp perform.
Did the motor mounts from the 7.3L line up with the 6.0 cross member.
Starting the same process next week, trying to figure out everything I need to buy
Great job
Gerald Fiorello Thank you very much
This was awesome.
Thinking of just doing a 4wd leaf spring swap on my 02 lol, front hanger is there but can’t quite figure out the radius arm to hanger mount conversion lol
Ditch the radius arm and leafs and coil swap it
Do you know if the 08+ frame will fit the 04 frame if I want to do same thing to my Excursion.??? Thank you!
So theoretically I could take a 05 superduty frame and put all my 7.3 stuff on it without a problem?
Nice job not an easy project especially outdoors in Jersey this time of year.
Nicholas Tashjian You said it my friend! Not at all
when are you going to share how to do the cluster swap
Bilco Construction I’m not sure yet
What do you think of the Swap Helper Cluster kit? It's $600 but takes minutes to install and uses all the functions. Unfortunately it also takes another $500 to make all the functions of the column work.
So if I do the same frame swap on my 2000 Excursion 7.3 4x4, could I reuse my original 2000 front axle by mounting it on the 2005 frame? I understand they have different bolt patterns.
Brandon Wetklow Honesty I’m not sure, But if you do all the work your better off putting the upgraded coil axle under it
they also have the same lug pattern 8x170
Nice Job! keep em coming
Did the 7.3 motor mounts mate up to the newer frame without modification?
You know to do an 05 coil axle swap, you don’t need to chop the frame and weld a new one on. All the brackets from the 05 will bolt right onto the 02.
This is the comment I came here for. Buying one this week and don't want to have to get the whole frame piece too
@@Legend-fw6eb yeah man. Look around on Ford forums, like Powerstroke Nation, or The Diesel Stop. Those dudes can tell you more about how to do it. But it basically involves getting the front axle, and all the suspension linkages. Everything should bolt right up, except for the 04 steering pitman arm, to the 05 drag linkage. The 05 steering system uses bigger ball joints, so you’ll need to ream out the 04 pitman arm to fit the 05 drag link. You’ll also want an 05 rear axle, as well. Reason being the lug nuts are different, the brakes are bigger, and the track width is wider on the 05. So you’ll want both axles to match. Hope this helps, go to Powerstroke Nation forums if you wanna look more into it. Good luck on your build!
@@LimaTangoZulu awesome man great useful info, didn't know that about the pitman arm and drag linkage. I already have an 08 rear end, so this is the icing on that cake to finish the ride quality to how I want it. Read a couple of forums but that's one part I haven't seen. Getting everything needed except that subframe for $500, some cleaning painting and new hardware and hopefully it comes out nice in the next couple months.
@@LimaTangoZulu doing this all on an 01 7.3 also so not sure if that made much difference from the 99-01 I know a few things changed as well
@@Legend-fw6eb now a 2008 you will have to fight it a little more to make it work. I would go with a 05-07 axle to make it easier on yourself. Nobody would be the wiser lmao.
How did you get the cab off?
Nice explanation on the 05 front end swap integrity! You get that 05 frame cut in Jersey? Looks like one I was eying up on marketplace but became sold... too long of a drive from PA for me.
John Smith Thank you! I actually got it in PA
You did it the hard way.
Yea I did but i'm glad i did. I could've done it to just drop the axle, but i was doing some engine work at the same time, and i got to paint the frame, and honestly to re-graft the frame to me was more worth it than to punch out the coil bucket rivets, and to drill the three holes up front in the cross member, and to adapt the other components. In the end the steering gear box and everything was already in place ready to go and meant to be on this frame, so I didnt mind it.
@@Jimmyziggy yea i was that, good work man.
I’m doing this swap right now.
What did you do about the ABS sensors?
And that gram cracking thing I’m not too sure about that. What about the 2wD models? We’re the cracking?
Which holes did u use to mount the motor. Aren’t the holes different in the two
Frames?
Would like to see you actually do the work instead of jumping from one step to the next would like to see you do the work I wanna do the front frame section swap and would like to see some pointers
Craig Hunter I would have, but it would’ve been a 5 day video if I showed every little step along the way lol. That’s why I shortened it to steps since I think it’s doable with what I said and to watch without gettin too bored! What questions do you have I can answer them.
@@Jimmyziggy I have a question. I have an 01 f250 7.3 4x4 long bed crew. My truck got hit and the frame is bent and a bit rusty. Can I do a full frame swap to a 2005? Or is there differences in the back half of the frame as well?
What Wheel and Tire size are you running?
IMO this way Is not worth the trouble unless you're restoring the whole truck sand blasting frame etc .. Many have done this swap without issues.
Fantastic video let's me know what I would be getting into to do that kind of swap. Got a 00' F250 I want to keep around and upgrade.
Thank you. It’s a lot to do it this way. A lot of people just pull the axle and swap it with the bed one and mount the coil buckets and radius arms which is fine too i be heard. I just felt safer pulling the cab and changing the front section for the reinforced frame from the later year.
Hey man! I notice your gauge cluster swap! Do you have any of the diagrams for doing the swap?
You can strip an entire truck apart and back together, but can't fix a garage door, or manually open it? 🤔
G Gg Haha of course i can. The framing and structure was getting redone so the rails and stuff weren’t in place. if it was that easy i would’ve just done it
@@Jimmyziggy lol. That makes sense. I was thinking what the heck. Haha. Good stuff sir
G Gg Thanks!
Did the motor mounts bolt up?
Yes they did
Why in the heck didnt you just swap the axle? I did a 08 axle swap on my 99.. way easier to swap and mount coil buckets bud.
Beagler Bass Fishing & Outdoors I know that, a lot of people have questioned me on it. In the video i explain why: the frames are different from 05-07. Much beefier to support all the weight of the coil spring on the cross member. Old frames cracked during testing so Ford updated it. Sure people have gotten away with just swapping the brackets but I don’t like taking chances going against the way the 4wd coil setup was designed with the frame. I know all the holes are there and everything, but that’s for the 2wd version, a much less rated version of suspension than the newer 4wd axle.
King Shaka Customs i dont think the weight is much difference.. leaf springs prob weigh more then buckets and springs or about close.
Beagler Bass Fishing & Outdoors Beagler Bass Fishing & Outdoors I’m not disagreeing with you there. My point is that the leaf spring contacts in two spots on the frame, whereas the coil spring makes contact at one. The force distribution is a lot different therefore. Hence why they supported it more where the coilspring makes contact. One day I can make a video more explaining my thoughts and calculations
I did a an axel swap on my truck I have an 04 f250 4 wheel drive haven’t had any problems
The issue isn't the weight. The leaf's put the load force straight up into the frame while the spring buckets try and twist the frame towards the engine. This force is s why spring tower supports are put onto vehicles like rally cars.
Think I would of went an found a rolled pickup an swapped the motor an body an all instead of cutting the frames.
Is it possible to just swap the whole frame?
Yes it is
@@Jimmyziggy ok so I’m confused by doing this does it mean I can put a newer trucks suspension?
If the 99 to 04 frames were not strong enough for coil springs. Then why do the 2wd super duties coil springs.
Matt Smith Because if you look at the 2wd components, they are much less rated than the 4wd version from 2005+. And it also takes into account the nature of a 4wd truck versus a 2wd truck. People are more likely to off-road in a 4wd truck which adds more force and impact as you can imagine. Do many people do it? No, but it gets factored in. Also think about plowing, the extra weight of a plow on a 4wd vehicle, that cause more stress on the front end. People don’t plow in 2wd vehicles (well most people don’t in these trucks at least). The frames were fine for the 2wd coil springs, up until testing and analysis were performed on the 4wd version of the coil springs and estimated loads and occurrences with it. It’s also about material fatigue and internal deformation of the material over time too. I can go on further, but I will make a video explaining it all one day eventually. I’m not trying to scare anyone here who’s thinking or has done an axle swap, I’m just looking at it from an engineering standpoint, because that’s what I am - I have studied and dealt with the ways material failures could occur similar to situations like this.
The reason more so being that the 2wd SD’s use TIB still with two points of contact (pivots) vs a live axle front axle. To be honest with you I don’t believe it was a huge issue either way. I believe the engine crossmember gussets came about with many changes from Ford trying to stiffen the frames of the 05+ trucks up over the 99-04. If I recall correctly they also changed the frame thickness in the change over as well.
What years can you take the front half of the frame from? 05-07? Or can you go newer?
Great job on the video by the way.
Only the 05-07 will be an exact match as far as I can tell.
Why tf do you have lipstick on
Camera quality was not good in this video
Dude, is that lipstick?
Haha no that’s a very poor camera and poor lighting
Great job.