As someone who is living in a knockdown house and who has also renovated and built a modern house over an old one...if it was my project, my initial thoughts are that the best thing to do would be to first go to a local knockdown house builder where you see the homes being built roadside...bring pics and share that you would like to sell the wood if they are interested....they should be, as they are always looking for old wood, and often travel far to get an old house,...they will come and take it down for you as well so no work on your part...they run it through their mills and make old gray wood into red like new to build new knockdown houses...the money gained can support the cost of the rebuild...after the wood is removed, take the house down to just the cement pillars and foundation...don't worry about the tilt or subsidence as that has no doubt settled over the past few decades...if there is a pillar that is listing beyond about an inch off center it can be yanked out and replaced...but put another 5cubic meters of cement pour on top of the old foundation raising it all a good 6in and making level...use 3-5mm rebar secured to the old foundation...you can build the new modern bathroom over the existing sewer access so you don't have to make new access and add height to any of the pillars by using concrete forms and additional rebar to your desired height...A single-story home with an A frame roof with a nice vaulted and insulated ceiling will make for a feeling of open space on a small footprint home. After the foundation pour, simply build the room walls as needed...don't use the old walls...chances are they are where the termites live, as the number one termite in Thailand are the subterranean variety and they also love the wall spaces...so do snakes actually so be careful when knocking down the walls...lol...I think you should be able to have a very nice house for maybe as low as 200k out of pocket after the money from selling the wood....not a bad deal for a like new modern home...alternatively if there is a sentimental attachment to the family home you may ask the knockdown company of they can come remove all the wood, mill it, treat it, and give it back or have them build it back the way it was, this would likely be costly but they do have the ability and resource to make old wood like new...most of your hardwood beams may look shoddy but they are probably not...that's likely Burmese redwood for the beams and some ironwood in there...termite resistant it's so hard and can easily be made to look great if you wanted to incorporate some of that into the new house design for posterity......ok that was my 2 cents...or maybe a buck and a quarter...lol
Hey Craig. You win on the comments. I actually thought about your place the other day before filming this video. We had a builder come round today and he litrally said everything you have mentioned. Brilliant comment mate. Thanks! 👏👏😍😍
Good dilemma to have mate, looking forward to watching how this one plays out of course. That house isn't too bad for 50 years old, can't imagine the history, the moments, everything that took place in there in the past 50 years
I would keep all the wooden pillars and flooring in place and clear out the shuttering and replace it with modern materials and windows. So my vote is renovate.
Repurposing used building materials will be costly ,as you’ll want different lengths of wood ,and demolition will need to be slow and careful not to cause too much damage to the older wood.. The termites sound like a problem ,same with the sunken parts of the building. If the old part is still good then I’d save it and rebuild the rest ,,
Hi Gary, Knockdown house are a good cheap way of building a small house here. I am not sure about using them as a full time family home. Thanks as always for the comment. 🍋🍋
Absolutely no contest Re build with modern specs, renovating in Thailand is a nightmare as the Thais will do it their way. Take my advice have drawings done be ultra careful with the specifications and get a builder that is not a farmer who does building works on the side. GT
replace the bad wood with good one, add few inches of cement to the floor, fix the walls and roof (if any issues). I've seen newer houses is much worse condition, so renovate it, the structure seems fine based on your video.
To renovate it would cost so much more. Utilise what you can salvage from original house and reuse in the new build. It sounds like Patnaree would like to keep and renovate the original tho.
Personally, I'd knock it down and build a nice new home like Jay and Ploys (except single story). But if the house has a very strong sentimental attachment,,, and I mean VERY STONG, you could consider getting a good Architect to design a new house that incorporates some of the old building but still delivers a new modern home overall. Of coarse, your budget needs to be a consideration as well.... As the Thai's say "Up to you"..... Chokh dī 🙏🙏
Jay and Ploy have built a very nice home for sure. A couple of things, this would be a renovation and only a short term home for maybe two years and then we would rent it. We still plan to build a home on the farm in the longterm. Secondly, I thought it would be an opportunity to do something different and try and use what we have in terms of materials. Not sure how we will proceed but we will make our minds up very soon.
If the house was 100 years old ? I would say renovate and preserve . In England there is a fad for buying very old houses and gutting them inside and out these end up lookin dated very fast !
To me don't try and mend something that's not broke. There's nothing wrong structure just a few things need replacing. Because it would stand another 50 years if just used as it is. Sounds like you want new house in old shell.
As mentioned a few times in the video. The house grew as the family grew and wasn't built to the same structural standards as the original house. The main structucture or origional house is very solid, it's the additions that are the problem. Also in the video, I mentioned that if it was sound structurally, it will be kept. Thanks for the comments,
@lemonfarmthailand Thats a recipe for disaster, you need to ditch the western "Im a nice guy" routine and take control. You can still be nice, but you need to be the boss. Did you not learn anything in the western world about how men are treated when they give women what ever they want.
As someone who is living in a knockdown house and who has also renovated and built a modern house over an old one...if it was my project, my initial thoughts are that the best thing to do would be to first go to a local knockdown house builder where you see the homes being built roadside...bring pics and share that you would like to sell the wood if they are interested....they should be, as they are always looking for old wood, and often travel far to get an old house,...they will come and take it down for you as well so no work on your part...they run it through their mills and make old gray wood into red like new to build new knockdown houses...the money gained can support the cost of the rebuild...after the wood is removed, take the house down to just the cement pillars and foundation...don't worry about the tilt or subsidence as that has no doubt settled over the past few decades...if there is a pillar that is listing beyond about an inch off center it can be yanked out and replaced...but put another 5cubic meters of cement pour on top of the old foundation raising it all a good 6in and making level...use 3-5mm rebar secured to the old foundation...you can build the new modern bathroom over the existing sewer access so you don't have to make new access and add height to any of the pillars by using concrete forms and additional rebar to your desired height...A single-story home with an A frame roof with a nice vaulted and insulated ceiling will make for a feeling of open space on a small footprint home. After the foundation pour, simply build the room walls as needed...don't use the old walls...chances are they are where the termites live, as the number one termite in Thailand are the subterranean variety and they also love the wall spaces...so do snakes actually so be careful when knocking down the walls...lol...I think you should be able to have a very nice house for maybe as low as 200k out of pocket after the money from selling the wood....not a bad deal for a like new modern home...alternatively if there is a sentimental attachment to the family home you may ask the knockdown company of they can come remove all the wood, mill it, treat it, and give it back or have them build it back the way it was, this would likely be costly but they do have the ability and resource to make old wood like new...most of your hardwood beams may look shoddy but they are probably not...that's likely Burmese redwood for the beams and some ironwood in there...termite resistant it's so hard and can easily be made to look great if you wanted to incorporate some of that into the new house design for posterity......ok that was my 2 cents...or maybe a buck and a quarter...lol
Hey Craig. You win on the comments. I actually thought about your place the other day before filming this video. We had a builder come round today and he litrally said everything you have mentioned. Brilliant comment mate. Thanks! 👏👏😍😍
@@lemonfarmthailand Thanks mate...and remember...if you're in the neighborhood...we'll leave a light on for ya!
im a sucker for old things so i would renovate. keep the memories
Hi Len, We will try and do what we can and maybe do a mix of both new and old. 😎
Good dilemma to have mate, looking forward to watching how this one plays out of course. That house isn't too bad for 50 years old, can't imagine the history, the moments, everything that took place in there in the past 50 years
Thanks for your kind words mate, we'll be documenting the whole process.
I would keep all the wooden pillars and flooring in place and clear out the shuttering and replace it with modern materials and windows. So my vote is renovate.
I like the idea of keeping the wood and building around it 👍
@@lemonfarmthailand I'll ask my wife to take some pics of our house for when we meet up. Might give you some ideas.
Repurposing used building materials will be costly ,as you’ll want different lengths of wood ,and demolition will need to be slow and careful not to cause too much damage to the older wood..
The termites sound like a problem ,same with the sunken parts of the building.
If the old part is still good then I’d save it and rebuild the rest ,,
Thanks for the advice, we need to weigh up the pros and cons.
I just finished my renovations and they turned out pretty well
I have seen your posts. The pool renovation looks pretty awesome.
Fill in the cracks, lick of paint will be like new. 👍
A lot of cracks my friend. 😂😂
Love the lockdown homes
Hi Gary, Knockdown house are a good cheap way of building a small house here. I am not sure about using them as a full time family home. Thanks as always for the comment. 🍋🍋
Absolutely no contest Re build with modern specs, renovating in Thailand is a nightmare as the Thais will do it their way. Take my advice have drawings done be ultra careful with the specifications and get a builder that is not a farmer who does building works on the side. GT
Thanks for the advice, GT. We're going to have to think carefully about how we approach it. 🍋🍋
replace the bad wood with good one, add few inches of cement to the floor, fix the walls and roof (if any issues). I've seen newer houses is much worse condition, so renovate it, the structure seems fine based on your video.
I am leaning towards that, I think we can make it work.
Renovate!
We would love to say yes 100%, all depends on the $$$. Eitherway, we will use as much of that wood as we can.
Interesting situation. You got a great pinned comment. Waiting for your house-building content 😊
Cheers, we are going to document the whole build.
You answered your own question...dont let the wife change your mind.
We decide together. 😎😎
Do what we all do, what we’re told.
😂😂😂Not wrong Alan
To renovate it would cost so much more. Utilise what you can salvage from original house and reuse in the new build.
It sounds like Patnaree would like to keep and renovate the original tho.
Yes, we are going to use as much as we can and also keep some of the original character. 🍋🍋
Rip it up and start again ?
Maybe, or use some of that wood in a new house build.
Personally, I'd knock it down and build a nice new home like Jay and Ploys (except single story). But if the house has a very strong sentimental attachment,,, and I mean VERY STONG, you could consider getting a good Architect to design a new house that incorporates some of the old building but still delivers a new modern home overall. Of coarse, your budget needs to be a consideration as well.... As the Thai's say "Up to you"..... Chokh dī 🙏🙏
Jay and Ploy have built a very nice home for sure. A couple of things, this would be a renovation and only a short term home for maybe two years and then we would rent it. We still plan to build a home on the farm in the longterm. Secondly, I thought it would be an opportunity to do something different and try and use what we have in terms of materials. Not sure how we will proceed but we will make our minds up very soon.
If the house was 100 years old ? I would say renovate and preserve . In England there is a fad for buying very old houses and gutting them inside and out these end up lookin dated very fast !
We are looking at all possible options. Thanks for the comment.
It's a rebuild I reckon
Hi Tony, hope all is well and you are enjoying the cooler weather. We are looking at all options and will go from there. 🍋🍋
To me don't try and mend something that's not broke. There's nothing wrong structure just a few things need replacing. Because it would stand another 50 years if just used as it is. Sounds like you want new house in old shell.
As mentioned a few times in the video. The house grew as the family grew and wasn't built to the same structural standards as the original house. The main structucture or origional house is very solid, it's the additions that are the problem. Also in the video, I mentioned that if it was sound structurally, it will be kept. Thanks for the comments,
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Who ever is funding it calls the shots.
Eugene, in this house everything is decided together. 😎😂
@lemonfarmthailand Thats a recipe for disaster, you need to ditch the western "Im a nice guy" routine and take control.
You can still be nice, but you need to be the boss. Did you not learn anything in the western world about how men are treated when they give women what ever they want.