Who Should You Wish for in 4.8 - Navia, Nilou, Yelan, or Emilie?
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0:00 New Characters and Rerun Characters, and how to know if they're worth it
01:37 Before you wish for Navia - Role, Playstyle and Kit
03:56 How good is Navia? Navia Review and Teams
08:07 Before you wish for Nilou - Role, Playstyle and Kit
09:38 How good is Nilou? Nilou Review and Teams
12:23 Before you wish for Yelan - Role, Playstyle and Kit
14:13 How good is Yelan? Yelan Review and Teams
18:36 Before you wish for Emilie - Role, Playstle and Kit
20:40 How good is Emilie? Emilie Review and Teams
23:51 Who is the best character to wish for in Genshin 4.8?
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Not me watching this on 12 pity and 13 wishes
Don't worry, the summer events usually have LOADS of primos
4.8 will in total give around 60 pulls if you explore the summer map, do the events and do commisions evrry day, also do abyss until atleast floor 11 & complete imaginarium theatre
Me with 50/50 and 20pity and 3 wishes 👀
0 pity and 37 wishes 😢 (and 50/50)
Never stop dreaming
Who should I wish for? Yelan. Who am I wishing for? Navia (and then Yelan if I get lucky).
Waiting from 4.5 for yelan
Nilou is a better fit for my Nahida and Baizhu, whom I use a lot. However, I want Navia so bad! I used my guarantees on characters 1 and 2 for Baizhu and Clorinde, so idk... either way, I'd have to get lucky to get Navia or Nilou 😩
Same here, all in for Navia and if I im really lucky , im going for Yelan next.
I'll go for Navia too
I lost to yelan, but it's her fault that I already have C6 Xingqiu, Furina, and even Childe (i like his gameplay) so I don't need her.
Also I have no Geo Main dps and I don't want to build Noelle because her team really requires to build mono geo which I don't like the playstyle.
Navia is extremely fun to play, trust me you not gonna be disappointed.
As Yelan and Navia haver here are some things that I would highlight about them:
Yelan skill is insane for nearly all movement and she hasn't left my overworld party ever. The burst having aimbot level tracking(it hits pyro agents when they are invisible!) is also nice and combined with her ranged normals she can clear spread out enemies by just spamming normals. And if some are out of range the skill takes you there fast! She also pairs well with her competitors in Xingqiu and Furina and even when you use two out of the tree in one side of the abyss you still have one of them for the other side. There are many teams where Yelan is not the best option but a few where she isn't an option at all.
For Navia I was surprised that Xianyun was not mentioned. Plunge Navia is great and one of the more synergistic characters for Xianyun even without Furina. You can also double up on healers with Bennet and plunging has infinite interruption res, which makes the plunge teams really comfy to play. The E into 4 plunges with the infusion can be hard to execute but it's still good if you miss that and do a phys plunge. Double geo stuff stuff with Chiori or Zhongli is where she is best at, but if you don't have them solo geo is still more than viable. Geo MC is an option, but at that point what is better comes down to the abyss lineup and what characters you have available and feel good playing with. Skill based nuke damage is also good for finishing abyss chambers with full energy and in overworld you oneshot a lot of enemies. Also the voice-lines are funny. "Umbrella warfare I guess!"
Both Yelan and Navia are units that function well without specific units, and geo and hydro could be hard elements to get a good roster of characters, so I expect them to do really well in the Imaginarium theater when those cycles become around.
Yelan movement is top tier for overworld, and her charged attack trivializes a lot of puzzles/daily quests
@@calvinwilson3617not just that she also does good dmg, dmg buff,auto targeting
"For Navia I was surprised that Xianyun was not mentioned" - me too, I use them and love their synergy. I also use Bennet with them for buff. And patiently waiting for Zhogli (for Abyss).
does yelan work with neuvillette , arlecchino, gaming and alhaitham? (just new to this game)
@@pumpkin_head1011 The coordinated attacks from Yelan's burst procs when your main DPS performs NORMAL ATTACKS, so in your case the best pairs for Yelan are Arlecchino and Al'Haitham.
Neuvillette's main source of damage comes from CHARGED attack, so Yelan's coordinated attack will not proc. And Gaming's is PLUNGED attack (even if he execcutes normal attacks in between plunged ones), so you will underutilize Yelan's kit because there will be less procs.
I actually wouldn’t recommend using Dendro Main Character with Emilie because their burst doesn’t play well with Pyro. When DMC’s Burst Bulb comes into contact with Pyro it will explode and disappear, ending the burst early. Just use Collei instead.
Would work on a burgeon team
oh yeah thats true
@@Kyosukedono it would if you apply hydro on dendro mc burst first then followed by pyro
Pre-farmed everything for Furina and then red haired mf came home. Now im all set for Navia. *_hey there comin at ya_*
@@user-zq5dh6jr8n EXACTLY SAME WITH YOU ON FURINA, except I lost to some zombie kid for the THIRD TIME (c2) now so I'm going for Navia too!
Sorry about that. It's why I don't pre-farm. Hoyo will screw you.
That's why I only prefarm when I have enough wishes for GUARENTEED
Always expect the worst outcome and have 160 wishes ready. Otherwise you'll get disappointed.
@@John_II if only you can guarantee
Omg same. Pre-farmed her artifacts and mihoyo gave me an astrologer.🫠
Im so tempted to get Yelan’s C1 just for exploration purposes
Absolutely worth it.
@@Rocco_Kurokawacan you convince me more cus I'm lost rn.
Her c1 really helps with her energy demands, totally worth it! I just Yelan burst and fast skill skill and swap to my next character... Easy!
can you convince me to save for C1 Yelan. I'm tempted to pull for Nilou
@@kaeyls Yelans C1 causes her dash to go on cooldown as soon as you start using it. If you use both charges to their full duration, its off cooldown about 2 seconds later and you can use a third dash. This is amazing for overworld exploration. If you have any of Xianyun, Wanderer, Sayu, or any other movement characters then combined they will have 100% dash uptime. Since I got her C1, I almost never take Yelan out of my party in any content.
I think it's ok to get yelen even if you have Xingqiu and furina because in the new game mode you need 18 characters combined of 3 elements hence you need 6 well built characters of each element to 100% the new game mode every month
So even if you have Xingqiu ,furina and Yelen you still lack 3 more hydro units .
( Now you understand why people hate the new game mode 🥲)
"need 18 characters combined of 3 elements hence you need 6 well built characters of each element" not fully true. Trials are counted for 18 chars roster too, so you formally need like 12 characters. You even don't need to use all of them in Theater, but game is giving random chars, which sucks. So for be able to start hard mode, you would need about 4 chars for each element, but when you have among them char which is in trial, bum, you can't use it for counting (I have Kuki now, have feeling that Furina will suffer from similar issue too). But anyway, I would definitely appreciate some improvements of this game mode too. It's kinda too restrictive and limitating in current state.
I hate it very much. I participated once and have been disqualified ever since. Don't even bother to understand it..
@@muminnek4 Not reall, they can give you trial characters the same as yours so you always need more
Love your recommendation videos. Your beginners guide also helped me start 1 year ago and I have really enjoyed the game ever since. Thank you and keep up the great work.
IMHO Yelan is the TOP1 character to pull for a new account. She'll be usefull from the moment you get her until the eternity. And she HUGELY improves the exploration in the game. I use her literally everyday.
It's hard to emphasize enough how great she is even if you already have or intend to pull other hydro off fielders
Yelan and Zhongli were my first characters, with a double Bennet and Yanfei off the starter banner. The game was beaten from the start.
How much value it is to pull for her if new player already got c3 xinqui ??
@@japsharansingh1424 I would say she keeps being one of the most valuable pulls possible. If we are talking abyss meta, she can be your hydro off fielder on the other side to enable the same teams or work together with him to make a double hydro core for teams like hyperbloom or vape.
That said, she feels so much better to play in the over world than xingqiu.
I almost skipped her because I already had xingqiu, but ended up pulling for her and don't have any regrets.
Unless you have c6 xingqiu and a furina, then you have enough hydro for her to not be a must pull imo
@@hericn she is definitely better than xinqui in many terms , but sadly will have to skip, cause I m saving for zhongli,kokomi, raiden, neuvi. Which may come soon and I won't be able to get them all. I have been loosing all my fity fifty. 😞
Natlan/fire pretty obvious Emilie is made for future characters from that region, no game company looks retroactively, they almost always look to the future
i really like Navia. Her story her character and shes pretty but i cant justify trying to get her as i am fully F2P and i just feel like yelan will be better for my account.
The game isn't that hard anyway, you should get the character you like better imo. It's a game you're playing it to have fun 🤗
You honestly can't go wrong with either one. Pair Navia with Benny. She doesn't get reactions but that skill HITS HARD. And i mean REDICULOUSLY hard.
Yup, as I thought, your video helped. I got Navia's weapon when I was going for Ayaka's so I was debating wether to get her or Yelan. So, I will be getting Yelan as she is going to help a lot of my teams like Furina mono hydro and Yoimiya hypercarry. Thanks a lot for the video Shark!
yippee, I’ve been waiting for your video since the announcement 🦈
pulling for nilou!!
I pulled for Nilou for my Kaveh! Best investment I've made for them so far. I prefarmed and lvl 90'd her right away. Good luck on your Nilou pulls!
I pulled for her but I feel like everyone is telling me stuff I don’t wanna hear about her 😭
@@itzyomomspotato2330 What stuff?
@@Westiver_ about her only being good for bloom 😭
@@itzyomomspotato2330 frrr i just got nilou and i was so happy then i saw people saying that nilou is worthless without nahida and im an f2p
Navia main here:
If anyone decided to pull navia. Here my experience. She was reason that I cleared 11 floor for first time and cleared 12 floor too. I skipped neuv and furina for her and she showed me how worth she is .
Ok. Not that I need but yeah. My motto is I like the character design, weapon type and role, gameplay then pull. No need abyss crap or validation.
Emilie + c6 benette actuelly seems a great combo, enemies have to be near anyways
You just create constant burn, throw xianling in the mix and emilie becomes a main dps
Emilie, XL, c6 benny and either nahida, zhongli, or baizhu would probably be the best team for her!
This banner is stacked, baby! You win almost no matter who you pull. My priority in order:
#1 Yelan - I cannot overstate how good she is. If you have Yelan and Furina, your off-field hydro/sub-DPS role is set (no need to grind for that C6 Xingqiu). Generally considered like the 4th best character in the game after Furina, Kazuha and Nahida, aka the account-makers. Only downside: you need the Chasm Underground to level her past 40.
#2 Navia - unless you have too many DPS' already; she's a super easy to use GEO DPS and her damage is amazing. I'm thinking about it, but I may save my pity for a Neuvillette re-run because I have too many DPSs already, although not a good GEO DPS.
#3 Nilou - IMO your account should be already stacked before you seek a niche character like her. I'm always on the fence with her: I cannot doubt her damage potential or ease of building her, but I also skip her every time because in my head this character only works on one team.... and I can already clear the Abyss without that team.
#4 Emilie - skip until you get to try her. I always wait and see. I remember Arlecchino being confusing in her description, but in practice she was easy and she hit like a truck. So I pulled for her. Wriothesley was the opposite. But in both cases I was glad I tried them first.
Fair point about Nilou. I mostly pulled for her because I wanted to play Kaveh. That and she's so beautiful! Kaveh is pretty difficult to play without her honestly and struggles as a unit so if anything she a fantastic buff for Kaveh.
Otherwise, playing Kaveh without Nilou is a struggle and anything outside of a bloom team is just a carbon copy of Dehya as Kaveh can not do dendro damage.
@@thesmashdancers105 I agree Nilou's design is beautiful, especially the new outfit - which makes me particularly happy because I had suggested a crown of flowers to Hoyo in my survey feedback. There's always an argument for pulling who you like and if you like Nilou, she's a great pull and easy to build.
That's a neat thought on Kaveh. I noticed yesterday Kaveh seems to have more bloom damage as one of his passives or constellations, which means he may work well with Nilou.
I have the other 3, and they are some of my favorites! I'm going to try for Emilie since I love her design, and a burning focused team sounds like an awesome change of pace.
I will be pulling for Yelan. Her fan art is the WHOLE reason I started playing Genshin in the first place. She WILL be mine!!!!!!!!!!!!
😮😮yeah that really whole some one right???
@@virendraswami1747 Exactly 💯 😇
Almost same boat...her showcase made me play GI ❤
considering I have neither, want all 4 but dont *need* any, I will look at what 4 star characters I can get on the banners to possibly narrow down the options :D
I'm pulling for Nilou right away if Kaveh is on her banner, waiting for the four stars on second banner to be revealed if not. If Kaveh is on second phase, I'm probably pulling for Yelan and holding of on Nilou. If he's not on either banner, I'm pulling for Nilou to have on my Kaveh team, eventually 😂 I just want my babygirl!
Bbg supreme!!
same, i love dendro explosions. Lucky they will be in the same banner
@@Robert-ow2hh yesssss ✨ I got so excited when I saw! currently pre-farming for the bbg 💕
thank you for the great vids shark❤
ive been wanting Yelan since I did her story mission ages ago and now I finally get to get my favourite character :D
Babe, wake up. SharkH3art posted a new video
Finally gonna get Yelan... so hyped.
Could we get a series of videos on constellation values?
There are many players who already have the characters they like and usually don't want to pull for new characters but rather want to make the ones they already have stronger with constellations.
For example, is Hu Tau's C1 more valuable than Furina's? And so on ...
I would rate Hu Tao's C1 as equivalent to Furina's. I play both of these characters on the same team, with Furina at C2 and Hu Tao at C0. Having Hu Tao always running out of stamina for charge attacks seriously impacts her damage. Ideally, I would have them both at C1.
Navia is great tbh
Her dmg is very good and her being atk scaler is great for playing her with Bennett and her low on field time makes her good with xiangling+yelan as well which is a great team
A team that works fine in aoe and have a great front loading nuke dmg , almost perfect in every scenario
thank you for time sections
I already got my Yelan on her last rerun. Now, I will be using up all of my saved wishes on Nilou's weapon banner just to get a copy of Xiphos Moonlight. Ive been waiting for that freaking sword for more than a year now. Hopefully I could get at least R5 😇😇😇
Ohh yes, the Yelan Fanart...
Your voice I remember what it reminds me from. There is a TH-camr who did adventure time videos and has a similar voice
I’m going all out for Emilie. My fav design since yae miko came out
Chiori into Navia is a super high buff to her damage. Use any applicator (I throw down a Ganyu burst), then Chiori into Navia. Very satisfying shotgun that blasts for 300k if they're all C0 but have decent gear
I pulled Yelan's signature weapon on Lyney weapon banner and got both bows. Since then I've been waiting for her rerun. Now I am next sure with 25 pity. Can't wait to use her with Arlecchino together.
im pulling for nilou! been saving for awhile haha
Will navia be good with dps raiden, like switching between navia's skill and raiden's burst team i was thinking of 'navia, raiden, bennett,xiangling' any opinion.
I play Navia with Bennet and Xiangling personally and the damage is exquisite. You can absolutely play with Raiden and you get a lot of shards for Navia's skill which works great! I just typically play Raiden on my other team.
Going for Yelan!
I was just saying yesterday I hope Navia gets a rerun soon, I have her level 90 triple crowned and excellently built, but didn't get her weapon so I've been having to use Ultimate Overlords Mega Magic Sword, I'm getting that Axe I swear
Well, I guess I don't even have to wonder because with me building just a tiny bit if pity I got 3 5 stars out if 5 pulls and that included navia, mona and nilou, so I'm wondering if I can save enough in time for the Pyro archon
I know who I want and I'm patient. Just here in case a character might surpass my love for my wanted character and pull for them instead 😂
the weapon banner in phase 2 seems great, and I'm planning to pull. however, is Emilie's weapon good on arlecchino?
So I prefarmed all of Nilou's ascension and talent mats for crowning the skill and burst. Then I even farmed a pretty cracked artifact set: around 60k hp, 200 em, 60/130 crit on 2p wanderer's troupe + 2p tenacity. I'm thinking it should work with both bloom and vape, and maybe even mono hydro or taser. Whats the point of a pretty red haired dancer girl with great animations if she's always off field and glued to Nahida?
Is it generally worth rolling for Yelan to replace a C6 Xingqiu?
Also, if I don't have Yelan's signature but I do have Siegewienne's will the latter outperform Favonius with an Emblem of Severed Fate build?
Got really lucky today. Finally got Furina, and a random 5 star weapon in one 10 fate wish.
Hope it'll happen again when i pull for Navia.
Spontaniously went for Nilou because I already have C2 Nahida, C2 Furina and Beizhou. Was a bit scared I would regret that decision, but my god is she fun and comfortable to play, a fresh change to the hyper carry teams I am usually playing. She's not even level 80 yet and has crap artifacts, but she already feels very comfortable and fun to play and can clear pretty tough content without breaking a sweat (kinda makes sense with Nahida and Furina on C2, but still).
you guys know that emilie is gonna be an op support in natlan is like the baizhu situation so think again but yelan is first choice no debate😊
Already have yelan and navia, don't want Emelie or nilou and I'm absolute pulling for shark girl in natlan. Really good video tho
I'm going to pull for Yelan. Navia is tempting, too, but the new Natlan teaser dropped, and there are really gorgeous characters coming, and I don't get to spend much money on the game, so. . .
I wanted to pull for Emilie as maybe an offield support, but then I heard that she had bad dendro application and my hopes were dashed for the new character
I already have C6 Xingqiu, Furina, and Neuvi. I’m sure if I had Yelan I would get a lot of use out of her, I just don’t feel like I need her for any particular reason. If that makes sense.
I already have Navia and Yelan. Will be pulling for Nilou next but I just got Furina so I'm not that hopeful. 😂
Wonderful guide.
12:26 I'm calling it this is Genshin's biggest plot hole
Hoyo trying to sell me Nilou and Emilie, while I‘ve got C6 Chevreuse lmfao gonna get that Khaj-Nisut though for Kuki! Navia‘s Signature can use some copies as well.
Nilous personally damage isn’t from the blooms she has 0 ownership of the blooms in her team
Have them all, aside from the new girl. Probably going to stack primos for a while lol
I kinda want Nilou bc I could run Neuvi, Nilou, Nahida, Yao Yao. I feel like that team would do unbelievable amounts of damage since my Neuvi already does unbelievable amounts of damage at C1 R1.
this time is fine since you have c1 so he doesn’t get interrupted by the blooms. however you’re gonna get far less bloom damage in this team and you’re really only relying on neuvillettes raw talent damage since ur procing less blooms.
i wouldnt really recommend pulling for nilou just to make my neuvillette team stronger. also neuvillete is fine without furina since he’s op but they both synergize extremely well together so if u have both of them built its recommended to play them together.
i would recommend just playing a neuvillette hypercarry on one side and then nilou + kokomi + nahida + dendro supdps OR nilou + hydro supdbs + nahida + yaoyao/baizhu
but obviously if you really like both characters and want to play them together, then its still a decent team and u should just play for fun anyway
I'm a Noelle main, though some people call me a geo main since I like geo characters 😁 .
I'm looking forward to Navia's re-run. Hoping to get C1.... C2 if possible.
Hoping to get Yelan's C2 if I have enough wishes after wishing on Navia's banner
Do we know who the 4 star for the 2nd phase of I’ll be?
Soooo, I was going to skip 4.8 all together because I didn’t really like Emilie (until I heard her voice lines) and figured I’d just roll on the weapon banner to try to get Xiphos and some other weapon refines to build weapon pity for when Wriothesley returns…. And I pulled Verdict at 50 pity… so now I kinda have to pull for Navia or else the glamour great-axe goes to waste in my inventory 😅
kirara, barbara, nilou, collei. thoughts?
It is really hard.
I like Nilou, I have a lot hydro/dendro chars who can work with her,
On the other hand, if Zongli will rerun soon he would Support Navia and fit in more Teams.
do you need a geo teammate for navia and how much is the difference, and if you do need one then which 4 star?
You don't have to, but it's better if you do. Geo traveler is especially good from what I know
Your voice is so beautiful❤
Wait... "good to great" on damage? That's insane, she hits like a motherlicking truck! If you need a character for BIG numbers very easily, it's her!
who should I pull, I have nahida, furina, kazuha, neu, arle, klee, eula, c4 xingqui, c1 bennett, c2 layla?
I started this video wanting to get either Navia, (because the only Geo characters I have are Geo Traveler, Noelle, and Ninguang) or Emilie, because she's new and looks good. I ended up after this video deciding on Yelan.
I've been wanting to pull for Navia, I even pre-farmed for her. But the Natlan teaser.......
if your pulling for abyss purposes, who would you pull?
Would a c0 yelan be better for my clorinde hyperbloom team than C6 R5 sac sword xing?
Is it smart to go for Navia over Yelan if I already have Furina? I dont see any resonance with Yelan on my current team comps.
I’m on 80 pity, with around 35 wishes. I’m wondering if I should get Navia- or just hold off for Yelan, as my Xinquo is pretty low con
im currently have c3 yelan (i wanna have c6) so every yelan rerun i pull, but i didnt know she was rerunning and i was already saving and prefarmed for emilie, which one is more worth it c4-5 yelan or c0r1 emilie
Since Natlan is releasing soon maybe Emilie might be a good support for new pyro characters/archon
I have C0 Yelan and her weapon I’m so tempted to go for her C1or C2. Emilie looks so good.
I was jus wandering is any of them worth before 5.0 i m saving for murata but i have 230 pull and a guaranteed so was wondering if navia or emily is any good. I already have the goat nilu
You totally convinced me for Yelan. I was already aiming for her, this just confirms how good she is
I'll fit her somewhere around Kaeya, Bennett, Clorinde, Noëlle and Furina 😅
Does yelan pair well with Alhaitham and furina? Or should I wait for Zhongli?
Current team: Al, Furina, Bennett, Jean
I have C2 xingqiu properly built so should I go for yelan still?
I want to pull for Nilou, but really want either Navia or Yelan, but also want the Key sword for Kirara or Nilou if I get her.
Torn between Navia and Nilou. Not pulling for Yelan, bc I got build c6 xing.
Got nahida and kokomi for nilou, thinking to put them with ayato. Tho some comment said that Nilou will be booted after getting a skin, so idk.
Navia seems good too - I got no geo dps, only Zhongli. But she's a single dmg dealer and I feel like I lack aoe in abyss.
Who to pick?
You can make really good nilou teams with nahida and kokomi, and Navia is great with anyone who applies a lot of pyro/hydro/ectro/pyro off field. So if you have Xiangling, Fishl, Xingqiu or other good off field damage dealer you'll be in a great spot for her. I think for you it comes down to which team you enjoy playing more. Nilou teams are really strong but there's really only on type of team while Navia gives you some more options.
@@sharkh3art got it, thank you!
C6 yelan (already c4) or one of nilou/navia weapon?
Been waiting for yelan for so long dang I need her for acc n have her weapon 😭😭
imma get yelan since i dont even have a xingquo
I am wishing for whichever banner has kaveh on it😊
I want to pull Yelan but now that Kaveh is revealed to be on first phase banner, I'm pretty torn between pulling for Navia banner and Yelan banner.
Maybe I'll just go f2p 😔 (forced to pay)
should i pull for yelan?
i was hesitant pulling for c1 furina(im at 40+ pity, guaranteed). also got her sig wep(50/50)
should i skip and just settle on c0? or pull for yelan?
Will yelan work well with raiden?
Why should i pull for yelan if i have c6 xingqiu and furina?
between Yelan and Furina, overall who is better to wish for?
I have Yelan, Xing and Furina. Who should I pull? Or go for Yelan weapon? Or Cons?
I got both! won 50/50 3 times in a row. I'm so glad I decided to use my saved wishes before natlan cos the natlan trailer just wasn't exciting for me. I cannot take the leather coochie zipper pyro archon seriously.
I should have watched this Video, before pulling for Nilou... i didn't even look mat her playstyle before. Ithought she was an onfield DPS😭 i originally wanted to pull only for Yelan and then wait for Wriothesleys rerun(he's my favorite character)
Should i get navia as j knly have zl and geo mc built. And a noelle for furina
Immaginarium theater is my reasoning
maybe i am looking the new skin of nilou!
Bro a lot of genshin enemies has shield Emily's kit gonna suck. I am gonna go for navia since I already have yelan especially now that i have fail to obtain Furina this benner thanks for clearing the doubts🍻
I don't see how Emilie's dendro appication is bad when it basically has 100% uptime which no other dendro character can claim? I wish there was a pyro character with half as much off-field pyro application as her.
I'm a big fan of DoT tick damage so very strongly considering pulling for her to enable a proper burning team that doesn't keep running out of steam because the dendro has fallen off the enemies/been used up.
Just thrown primos on nilou and her signature, now i gotta save everything for columbina if shes still coming in natlan
I love HP scaling characters 😍
I think emilie will be great with arlechinno and they share artifact domains soo its just easy to justify getting her for that reason. But if you dont have chino she probly kinda mid maybe yoiymia could work but idk