Yes they can 💔 Something during their trial the prosecutor said was impossible she said men couldn’t be SAed YES THEY CAN AND THEY DESERVE THE SAME JUSTICE AS WOMEN. Free Erik and Lyle now!!
I worked in a state hospital. 3/4ths of patients were sexual abusers. Their main victims...BOYS!!! I worried more for my grandson than I did for my granddaughter! Society doesn't 'accept' men are victims too. Even Diddy went from 50% female victims to nearly ALL male victims. BELIEVE MEN! My deceased husband was abused. That's why he drank & drugged himself to death. I feel so guilty for not truly listening.
It bothers me so much when someone says a molesting paedophile father wasn't enough of a reason to kill him. What!? How does anyone in 2023 have such a profound lack of understanding of how deeply traumatizing sexual abuse/incest is.
I know it makes my blood boil I can’t even stomach the verbal description of that level of abuse a gunshot death is a easy way out for the abuser victims they’re already psychologically dead after no wonder most turn to drugs and then suicide if only traumatic memories could be erased
I believe they were molested. You couldn't speak about abuse in the 80s. The victim would be sent to mental institution and told they were lying. So nobody spoke up about it. It was shameful to say anything. Victims were shut down. So where does all that anger go.
I have to agree tho I was born the 80s stories I have heard people who were raised in the 70s and 80s speaking of sexual abuse as a child was very hard for people to believe you and it was discouraging for the victims. As time progressed especially now as a society many of us with awareness and empathy towards it aren’t going for the okie doke.
@@perceptionisreality6769 you can tell those boys were telling the truth on the stand. The hate had built up and up and up inside them both towards their parents and society. They didn't care anymore. They took their mothers face of,. Now that is built up pure hate. They probably spent the money from inheritance on anything they could buy because they didn't care about society anymore, nobody ever listened to them while they cried out for help to friends. A letter has been found now, all these years later. They had spoken to a friend about the sexual abuse. I still can't believe nobody in the justice system or political system is listening to them.
@@Edgeleyit takes some people decades to deal with. Think what would you feel if it had happened to you? It affects people for the rest of their lives and gives trauma to the brain.
No, murder is never justified unless it’s to protect oneself or another person’s life if they have good reason to fear for their life. With that being said, I think that given the circumstances of the Menedez case where the parents had repeatedly abused them for years, the Menedez brothers should’ve had a lesser sentence.
Vlad really doesn’t research his topics!! Neither of the Menendez brothers threatened their therapist! The therapist let his then mistress listen in on his conversations with the brothers without their knowledge. When the therapist started abusing his mistress and threatened her that her life was in danger from what she knew about the confessions she got spooked and went to the police. She then agreed to wear a wire where the therapist was caught on tape discussing the confessions. Because he broke the doctor/patient privilege by letting her listen in on private sessions with the brothers..he was not compelled by that privilege. He then took little convincing to become the star witness for the prosecution. The therapist then lost his license to practice a few years after as he was having sex with his female patients!
@@madigrace4732 So Michael's story is all made up of his being in the hold with the both of them? He did say that they later split them up. Maybe it was after that point that they didn't see each other for 20 years.
@@judithwerner5301 maybe they should redefine 'molestation' as the word seems to imply that it is not that serious to what it really was - what it really was, was systematic, persistent longterm rape (physical, emotional and psychological rape). If money was not involved in this case, the sentences would have bern lighter. But money or no money, rape is wrong. Perhaps they should have sought a posthumous conviction for what their father did, because he was never charged or tried, it has always been referred to as 'allegations'.
RIGHT! You spoke my mind. I was looking for someone to comment on this. You're the only one I found so far. Who knows, It may be that what the two of them did prevented others from becoming victims of their father.
Hopefully they get out soon. Now that Roy Rosello from Menudo says that Jose Menéndez raped him too. And both his story and the story Lyle Menéndez have said coincide with each other.
He doesn't know what he's talking about they did not threaten to kill their therapist the therapist girlfriend told the police she overheard the conversation where the brother confessed
@@Cre8tivecircles If they were women nobody would call them murderers for killing their abusers. If a woman was being sexual assaulted by her father growing up and it damaged her so much that she murders him when she grew up, she’d be looked at as a victim and the father deserved it.
Even the prosecution said it was impossible for a man to rape another man cause “they don’t have the proper equipment “. If that trial would’ve happened today they would’ve looked at it differently.
@4:57 "Whether he was molested or not I don't think that was a justification for what happened" I can't believe Vlad just said that. Thats some insensitive shit. You cant tell a victim that was was molested and raped , how to react when it comes to their abuser, smh 🤦♂. If my Dad did that shit to me and my mom let it happen, trust me i'm blowing both of their fucking heads off also.
@@CantTellYou Their pre-planning and their actions and behavior after the murders show that they not only planned out the murders but took numerous steps to cover their tracks so that they wouldn't be caught. If evading justice was never their intent for example, why did they collect all the spent shotgun shells from the scene of the crime before the police arrived? Why did they dispose of the rifles they used somewhere in Mulholland Drive before they made their 911 call to the police? Why did they call 911 and say that someone murdered their parents but left out one crucial detail -- that they were the someone who murdered their parents? Why did they tell detectives that the mafia put a hit on their parents? Most people know why, but these folks, including the brothers, they have dozens of excuses on hand to explain and excuse their actions in the hopes that they can make an argument for having their life sentences overturned on appeal. And keep in mind that the defense tried to claim imperfect self defense in order to secure manslaughter convictions. You purchase your weapons with someone else's ID, murder your parents by storming into their living room with guns blazing and then claim imperfect self defense, irregardless of whatever "future" threat they believed their parents posed to them. If they believed that their parents posed a threat to them in the future, they should have just gotten up and left, call the police, etc.. Unless the parents were in the commission of threatening their lives or well being in that moment they really have no leg to stand on. That's the central question that should be at the heart of the defense, but instead all the defense offered was innuendo, crocodile tears, and unfound claims that the parents were posing an imminent threat to them at the time they were murdered. Sociopaths are accomplished liars and they can conjure up whatever pent up emotion they need to get what they want. I love how supporters like to pretend that there has never been a sociopath in history who ever cried convincingly in court, or in regular life in general. Just look at a number of youtubers. The tears may be real, but the sincerity is absent.
@@CantTellYou Also, keep in mind that right after the brothers murdered their parents in cold blood, they proceeded to shower effusive praise about their parents to the press and during their funeral services. It wasn't until they were being tried for murder that they began wth character assassinating them. Just something worth pondering over, seeing as how the groupies claim that their behavior after their murders were nothing out of the ordinary. There are reasons why the brothers' activities raised the eyebrow of detectives and it wasn't because the brothers were being singled out and persecuted by the Beverly Hills Police Department.
Oh my god.....the thing at the end where Fanzese's kid sees the Menendez brothers on the cover of The National Enquirer and says, "Look Mommy - Daddy's friends!" That killed me, man.
Ppl don't understand.. it's not "is rape bad enough" it's the fact that the rape, along with the full expansion on how they grew up with multitudes of trauma. The sports trauma, the physical, sexual, and verbal abuse, it creates a different mindset than a normal household would. They weren't in their right mind, they grew up differently and only felt one option available. Now if you grew up in a happy loving household, and one day got raped, you wouldn't have the same reaction, your mindset is different based on your experiences and your awareness of right and wrong. You don't have the different reality. You can't even comprehend the truama they went through. It's ingrained into them from their childhood. Even small things like yelling a lot can change the way you precieve things. Imagine being tortured by ur parents, being taught about rape & incest & the way the world should be (when it's not) that's what you learn. They are a product of their parents nightmare.
Bro…I totally disagree. Their “abuse” mixed with them being entitled spoiled brats led to them doing that. Plenty of people that have way harder lives and dealt with much more abusive situations and they didn’t blow peoples heads off with shot guns.
There are too many friends, relatives, coaches, teachers, etc WHO WITNESSED the abuse and Kitty DID have a hand in it. They were legitimately in fear for their lives. It was sadistic abuse. Jose also abused boy bands
Why didn't all these people report the abuse? I don't believe not 1 of them, including the menendez boys, to say they were being so abused they sure did enjoy spending those millions of dollars with a big Cheshire cat smile on their face.
@nonyabiz550 hate for who? 2 ungrateful liars that killed their parents to gain unbridled access to their parents' wealth. I guess murdering the people that gave you life is alright 👍
@@malegi29 There were numerous family, friends, coaches, etc who testified to witnessing not only the physical abuse but sexual abuse. You're not even competent to watch the trial and comprehend what's happening. There was a coach who saw Jose punch Lyle as a child. There were cousins and aunts and uncles who saw Jose take Eric in the bedroom while they were staying there. That old ghoul, Dominic Dunn and Diane Dimond both admitted the SA happened. You must be a pedo to say that's not what Jose deserved
Love how Michael clearly says he was on the way out when OJ got locked up, then proceeds to talk about spending almost a year with the Menendez brothers. Then Vlad "was that before the OJ case?"
If you watch their movie or the law and order TV show about them it gives more details of why they did what they did they literally live their lives the way they did before they kill their parents but if I was molested and raped constantly since a little child even as an adult still being victimized and told that I can have a life I don't know what I would do to my abusive to escape that life
Saying 'its still not an excuse' when most us don't know what its like to be in such a harrowing situation where your protectors are your predators is wildly insensitive. We don't know how we would react after enduring that level of abuse over 10-15 years.
@@lostwoods5687 I'm sure many people must have said this to you somewhere, but here goes. When you're abused in THAT way from age 6, it significantly affects your judgement and reasoning. it's easy to say "move out and get a job", when you have the luxury of rational thinking, but the brothers didn't. For years they were abused and had their minds twisted, and for years they were denied proper counselling to fix their minds (only got counseling as young adults, just before killing their parents). How were they just meant to suddenly gain the wisdom of the ordinary person after a decade of torment? Soldiers struggle for years to return to civilian mindset after months away on a campaign. Same goes for other PTSD sufferers Regarding the other family members, remember this was the 80s and José was powerful and rich. In the 80s, you can do what you want to your kids without anyone caring. The family members have also said that they never believed it because the idea of their successful relative raping his kids was too outrageous to believe, no matter how many warning signs there were. Was parricide wrong? Objectively yes. But if your father did to you or your brother what José did to his boys, you're definitely gonna consider murdering him and then spending his money in celebration.
We never know what we would become given the same situation. If I was being raped by one parent with the other parents blessing from Kindergarten on I’d be fucked up too. Most people go on to hurt strangers, their own kids, and themselves but these two went to the source. Pick your evil - there wasn’t any help and this was the result.
@@ProLifeAtheistXX come on man, have some remorse, you weren’t there so you don’t know, neither do I, so don’t judge these guys, you would’ve most likely did the same, no matter how perfect you THINK you are
@@Cassius-m5v 1. I'm not a man. 2. I don't think I'm perfect, in fact I know I'm not. 3. Murder is unacceptable and the Menendez brothers deserve to rot in prison.
@@ProLifeAtheistXX you really seriously think you would NEVER under ANY circumstances Murder someone???? Come on bro be honest, you can’t say what you won’t do in a situation you’ve never been in , sorry to break it to you but not everyone gets to live a privileged life well protected 24/7 . Anyone who says “murder is unacceptable they must rot” you’ve GOT TO BE living in a fantasy fairy tale land to think there’s never a situation where you must do what you gotta do to LIVE. Kill or be killed & have a fair chance in trial to get out free and be with your family once again. So you mean to tell me if a man of my size ?? (6’0 200 pounds) if a man of my size were to attempt to r@pe you…. You wouldn’t at least TRY to K!ll him ???? I don’t believe it… sorry
Finally realized who Michael reminds me of. He has a lot of similarities with actor Harvey Keitel. Looks, voice, mannerisms. They could play brothers in a movie.
looks like a conman to me. buy my pizza! buy my wine! "i knew sammy the bull very well" then sammy says he never met him in the street 😂 both lying garbage
The mother knew what the father was doing. Also the mother was molesting Lyle. While Erik wasn’t being molested he was being R’d all the way thru high school. Learn your facts before making such confident claims.
Vlad did you just say that if they were molested killing their molester isn't the right thing to do I bet you wouldn't be saying that if someone you loved was molested
But it isn't the right thing to do, and certainly not going on a lavish shopping spree after. What's that saying about all sins being the same? They could have left and given up the access to a fortune. Money was priority #1 or at the very least a secondary motivation. The abuse likely had become normal to them as they didn't appear remorseful or traumatised until after they got caught. Also, at what point did they even begin to use the abuse angle because like most things in the judicial system; it was an angle they used for sympathy regardless of how true it was or wasn't.
@@rogetrogetgiddythey couldn't leave as their father was well connected and said to them if they did leave, he would hire someone to find them and kill them. Its victim blaming to say oh they should just leave! When you're free from your abusers you don't act perfectly, they spent money as that was normal to them, shopping sprees are a way for some victims to cope. Women have done the same after they have killed their husbands or whatever, it is common. They shown empathy and they have recently as they teach therapy for abuse victims in prison. They've said themselves as their family has said too, money motivation makes no sense.
@@rogetrogetgiddyI think the shopping spree was a way of destroying what he had built he was very boastful about what he had earned but the abuse is never normal they wanted it to end and professionals said they had to mental capacity of a 10 year old I think they thought it was a way out without ever having to see their abuser again
@@hussainmartins5985 I've watched enough movies to know that, when you suddenly gain a ton of cash through nefarious or illegal means, you don't go on shopping sprees. You lay low.
What do you mean of course not a reason. I’m a Pisces Empath and I think they thought they had no choice. Their entire life as torture. Even the prosecutor said back then they could only find one person in everyone they tried that said anything nice about Hose and the mum and that was the secretary. (and she probably didn’t know them well). Even family members said how terrible the parents were.) 5:09
Very unfair assessment though Val of the boys. Very inappropriate not to vehemently condemn child abusers. If you were informed on what happened to the boys you would feel ashamed for what you’re saying. Multiple other people and family have confirmed that they were abused and Jose abused other people as well. Everyone can’t be lying. I hope you or one of your loved ones never has to experience that to understand why they did what they did. Not only was it incest but child s.a. That started for one of the brothers when they were 6 years old. Horrific. Not a laughing matter.
Franceese was never on death row. He cooperated with the federal government in 1989 and was never charged with murder. Why would he be on death row? All lies.
You don't think being raped by your father and the mother enabling is a cause for murder? Do you realize what that does to someone? How disgusting and perverse?
1:48 Eric was not ''the weaker''. Not to diminish Lyle's trauma but Eric was abused by jose for much longer, apparently up until the murders. He turned to his brother for help as he couldn't deal with that anymore - again, that's being traumatized not ''weak''.
You know what, you might not think its the right thing to do but when u are that traumatized/ abused often times u dont THINK. You never know how you will react to shit like that.
They were both abused in severe ways, which included being sexually molested by their dad and emotionallyand physically abused by their mother.. They were treated that way in prison because they were seen as handsome rich kids who had everything, rather than victims as nobody had any idea what they had been through. As the head of the Mafia what would he do to a person sexually abusing his brother, or lets pretend they were both female? How differently would they have been treated then?
Rosie O’Donnell says it’s time to release them. I refused to watch the video or read the article, but that’s what the headline said. She’s gotten rather close with one of the brothers
I truly believe that it's worse being accused of child molestation than capital murder ! I'm sorry for saying this, but that father did not deserve to live, and regarding, she did nothing ! What is this ??
@@elijahFree2000 I don't see anyone NOT blaming Epstein who was also a child mol*ster lmao. And he could never defend himself cuz he was guilty af. Same with the brothers' father Jose
The way these brothers killed their parents and the way they acted afterwards . Tell me they were definitely molested , traumatize and bullied . They had no compassion for their parents they totally disassociated from them . This is not a trait that can be simulated differently for other and they obviously have affection for each other as brother. They would have turn the gun on each other if it was all about the money . Their situation made it easy for them to murder their parents . Eric wanted to move out but his father wanted to continue rapping him and he was suicidal that is why they did this. But now I am sure they would have seek help from their relative to help them move form a repulsive and horrendous environment. Praying that they will be free .
Excellent take. I used to think the brothers were liars but rewatched the court testimonies and their emotions detailing the alleged abuse were raw and real. You cant fake what they were going through on the stand. And then in 2023 Roy Rosello dropped the bombshell that their father the senior Menendez drugged and raped him when he was 13. It's time to free the Menendez brothers.
Moral of this story is that this information is enough to release them real talk and stop putting them through reliving the past if you’re not going to let them go.
There’s already a refilling of new evidence under review that has a due date of this month which will hopefully lead to them being released. I believe mark geragos filed it last year.
Those that say that someone who has been se..molested and assaulted, by their own father at that, has mo right to have recourse, meeds to resd something on trauma. I hope you never have to experience something so horrible. I have.
Jose Menendez was a pedophile. What the brothers did to their parents is terrible, but that doesn’t mean they were not sexually abused by their father and their mother was an enabler to that. There is a new witness that has come forward that claims they were drugged and raped by their father when they were 13 years old. Turns out this witness was a member from the band Menudo. Their father was an executive at RCA records at the time, and band member Roy Rosello was introduced to Jose Before they got signed to RCA records. There is currently a documentary that supports the Menendez brothers claims , and also introduces Roy’s claim who was also sexually abused by the Edgardo Diaz the creator and producer for Menudo for years prior to him introducing Roy to Jose. Roy is also trying to seek justice for this abuse. It’s a very traumatic story that everyone needs to follow revealing the serial molestors and rapist that continued this abuse with other and future members. IMO considering the trauma the Menendez brothers endured it’s hard to find any sympathy for these horrible parents who tragically met their death due to their transgressions.
What part of they reloaded the gun after first round of shots, threatened to kill therapist , went on a huge shopping spree after shopping spree and much more. That's what is hurting their case.
I disagree with Vlad. If your parents are molesting you then you're definitely justified in killing them. I'm not saying that's what happened to the Mendez brothers though.
@@CantTellYou they failed to convict them the first time. Half the jury did not believe it was 1st degree murder. It took another trial where the judge did not allow any of the evidence that they were molested in their defense.
@@dariog36thManslaughter is when you don’t have the intention to kill somebody but you accidentally do such as self defense which is the reason they used, however the defense proved that they planned ahead (premeditated) by buying the guns a week before the murders, using another person’s identity and they ambushed their parents while they were sitting on the couch watching Tv (no self defense).
Question if your parents are clearly trying to kill you off because you threaten to tell the police what they’ve been doing to you for so many years what would you do?
Vlad is completely disregarding what those boys went through at the time which led to doing what they did. I’m sure he’d want someone dead if his child was being molested. They were in fear for their lives and never had a chance since they were young. If Gypsy got out, they should too. Praying this refilling of new pieces of evidence gets them out of prison 🙏🏾
Ya Vlad he hung out with the Menendez Brothers like it's chillin with your friends on a Sat night lol. They were locked up in jail ain't no hanging out in there lol.😂😂😂
I always thought if you confessed to a murder that Dr. patient confidentiality was out the door I guess not. Obviously threatening to kill the therapist you're done.
They didn’t threaten the therapist. The therapist told his girlfriend all about it. Then when they broke up she went to the cops and that’s when they opened up the investigation again.
People cant take seriously men sexual assault but it does happen ! How many things i have heard i believe people are enable to do very nasty things that you cant even imagine !!! So yes sexual assault is crime and most cases come from relatives ! I guess people still sleep on it
the way vlad was so dismissive of the menendez brothers being sexually assaulted and saying that was no reason to kill the father ...reminds me of how he came after jaguar wright on the pierce morgan show..im starting to put 2 and 2 together about vlad. He's coming across as one of these industry abusers himself which is why he wanted to dismiss and silence jagaur wright.
After they killed there parents they apparently went on a shopping spree bought houses and lofts in NY and other places but in 1991 I believe not sure the brothers bought court side seats to the Knicks at Madison square garden, if you look up I believe John starks there they are front row... Crazy bet that card is worth something or nothing but it's real. Edit: it's Mark Jackson not John starks
They had always spent alot of money! The parents gave them money to keep up appearances throughout their entire lives. Also their parents family members were executors of the will, money etc every purchase had to be agreed
There is no respect for justice. We now know José was a child rapist, and the mother was an enabler. This is a permanent stain on the American system-a failure to protect children and a lack of empathy for abuse victims. As a society, we now have the means to voice our discontent with this broken system. I hope Erik receives justice in his lifetime.
Vlad you are misinformed regarding the mistress informant. Also Erik was being R’d by Jose all the way thru high school. These boys suffered severely at the hands of their father.
@emilymathews7073 Pill shopping is exactly that, getting meds from multiple doctors. Addicts will do this to get extra pills. Therapists are mandated to report this in my area, as well as homicides(threats or otherwise), and serious intentions of suicide. It is for everyones safety and for legal reasons.
@@MaktubJess We'll see, even if they do they are still evil to the core, especially what they did to the mother then go back to the car to reload Jesus Christ man.
@@readynow12345 and do you know what the “mother” did to them besides being an accomplice to rape for 12 years? She abused Lyle from ages of 6 to 13. Touched him, bathed him, asked him to touch her naked in bed with dad next to them, kissed him, etc. he made the right decision.
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@@MaktubJess Get real that's what they say lol, none of this has been proven by the way, when you're facing life without parole possibly a death sentence you will do or say anything to save your own skin, Kitty was a good mom, do you know she was doing erik's homework when they blew her head off real bad mother, don't fall for their lies dude
you speak on something you know nothing about. the brothers WERE molested for years, up until their parents death. there is letters and photos of the abuse, erik didn’t kill his parents. he shot and missed, lyle killed them, left, reloaded and came back to finish off his mother. erik sat on the stairs too afraid.
I truly believe the brothers were belittled and molested. When being interviewed it’s like they are right back there in time and it affects them still. Pops was a sick puppy and ma turned her head. Criminey I feel bad for them!
It's insensitive how ignorant people can be about this case after all these years and get facts wrong. The OJ trial didn't happen before the Menendez case, it happened after it. And that impacted tremendously on the rulings and defense. The issue with the mother, spending spree all of it are common questions that are answered again and again. It's funny how you'll be more okay and open with interviewing and laughing with a mob boss than believing these boys who were violently abused throughout their lives. The truth is that it's already in your heart. And if I said they are innocent and God knows that they are innocent, you will not believe them. And if I said they are liars but they are not liars, you will believe me. And so I'm not gonna say a word like Leslie did other than have patience.
I feel really bad for the two brothers they have gon through hell ever since they were born I don’t know if the parents plan on making kids for them to enjoy putting their pain on to their own kids if that was the plan I’m just thinking this might be their way of putting their stress out and it’s really disturbing and very horrifying
If they were able to fool the cops, I am positive they were able to come up with a plan to not go to jail. There's always 2 sides of a story. Unfortunately, we will never hear the other side.
men can be victims too 💔
@@lylesangelৎ oh yes daddys can be victims too
Yes they can 💔 Something during their trial the prosecutor said was impossible she said men couldn’t be SAed YES THEY CAN AND THEY DESERVE THE SAME JUSTICE AS WOMEN. Free Erik and Lyle now!!
Men are victims too!!!!
Free these two child victims of incestual SA!!!
@@FUtube-h2y How sick do you have to be to defend a molesting father fr you should get reported and investigated by police should find your IP address
I worked in a state hospital. 3/4ths of patients were sexual abusers. Their main victims...BOYS!!! I worried more for my grandson than I did for my granddaughter!
Society doesn't 'accept' men are victims too. Even Diddy went from 50% female victims to nearly ALL male victims. BELIEVE MEN! My deceased husband was abused. That's why he drank & drugged himself to death. I feel so guilty for not truly listening.
It bothers me so much when someone says a molesting paedophile father wasn't enough of a reason to kill him. What!? How does anyone in 2023 have such a profound lack of understanding of how deeply traumatizing sexual abuse/incest is.
They claimed abuse. They also lied a lot.
You can’t go around killing people crazy.
I know it makes my blood boil I can’t even stomach the verbal description of that level of abuse a gunshot death is a easy way out for the abuser victims they’re already psychologically dead after no wonder most turn to drugs and then suicide if only traumatic memories could be erased
@@lefthandwarlock8503peados are the exception idc what a silly abuser sympathiser like you says
@@elijahFree2000 the father's molestation wasnt fully known at the time. have a look at some of the recent info that came out on him. He was a monster
I believe they were molested. You couldn't speak about abuse in the 80s. The victim would be sent to mental institution and told they were lying. So nobody spoke up about it. It was shameful to say anything. Victims were shut down. So where does all that anger go.
Powerful comment there Stephen ! 👍
I have to agree tho I was born the 80s stories I have heard people who were raised in the 70s and 80s speaking of sexual abuse as a child was very hard for people to believe you and it was discouraging for the victims. As time progressed especially now as a society many of us with awareness and empathy towards it aren’t going for the okie doke.
@@perceptionisreality6769 you can tell those boys were telling the truth on the stand. The hate had built up and up and up inside them both towards their parents and society. They didn't care anymore. They took their mothers face of,. Now that is built up pure hate. They probably spent the money from inheritance on anything they could buy because they didn't care about society anymore, nobody ever listened to them while they cried out for help to friends. A letter has been found now, all these years later. They had spoken to a friend about the sexual abuse. I still can't believe nobody in the justice system or political system is listening to them.
@@paul-ie6wi it's true though. It's how the world was back then. What are your views on the case.
@@stephenrafter1980 I don’t give a monkeys about the case tbh, but your comment was spot on
Vlad doesn't think child molestation justifies murder. Well, I do. I think a lot of people do.
absolutely!
No shit
I disagree - they were adults and who is to say they really feared for their lives (except self-reports)?
@@Edgeleyit takes some people decades to deal with. Think what would you feel if it had happened to you?
It affects people for the rest of their lives and gives trauma to the brain.
No, murder is never justified unless it’s to protect oneself or another person’s life if they have good reason to fear for their life. With that being said, I think that given the circumstances of the Menedez case where the parents had repeatedly abused them for years, the Menedez brothers should’ve had a lesser sentence.
Vlad really doesn’t research his topics!! Neither of the Menendez brothers threatened their therapist! The therapist let his then mistress listen in on his conversations with the brothers without their knowledge. When the therapist started abusing his mistress and threatened her that her life was in danger from what she knew about the confessions she got spooked and went to the police. She then agreed to wear a wire where the therapist was caught on tape discussing the confessions. Because he broke the doctor/patient privilege by letting her listen in on private sessions with the brothers..he was not compelled by that privilege. He then took little convincing to become the star witness for the prosecution.
The therapist then lost his license to practice a few years after as he was having sex with his female patients!
If he just did a little research he would have known that they literally have a movie and TV show about it 😂
Right And also .. the Melendez brothers were never together in prison . They spilt them up .. they didn’t see eachother again for 20 years
@@madigrace4732 So Michael's story is all made up of his being in the hold with the both of them? He did say that they later split them up. Maybe it was after that point that they didn't see each other for 20 years.
@@NJcruiser
Yeah it was after that point
Yeah…lol🙄
Maybe they did society a favour - he was no longer around to destroy other kids' lives.
I realize murder is wrong but child molestation is evil also.
@@judithwerner5301 maybe they should redefine 'molestation' as the word seems to imply that it is not that serious to what it really was - what it really was, was systematic, persistent longterm rape (physical, emotional and psychological rape). If money was not involved in this case, the sentences would have bern lighter. But money or no money, rape is wrong. Perhaps they should have sought a posthumous conviction for what their father did, because he was never charged or tried, it has always been referred to as 'allegations'.
You never know, maybe
I can’t believe how misinformed these people rooting for killers are.
@@SaveManWomanwhere is your information to support otherwise.
The guy from Menudo said he also molested by the Menendez father, who was a record executive.
He was also r*ped
indeed so that is a clue that they are likely to have been.
Probably Ricky Martin too, that's why he ended up being bully too.
True story but hey back then it was apparently not a big deal right! This is disgusting
RIGHT! You spoke my mind. I was looking for someone to comment on this. You're the only one I found so far. Who knows, It may be that what the two of them did prevented others from becoming victims of their father.
Damn. Vlad almost made it sound like molestation is not a big deal. Like he’s done it himself. That entertainment industry is nuts.
yes, I undertand your point but no exscuse for murder-double murder!!!!
There is absolute defense for self defense. Jose and Kitty got exactly what they deserved.
@johnmahland363 in your opinion.
@@johnmahland363 Well if raping children is no excuse then wtf is???
Hes part of illuminati so of course its normal to him
If they would’ve been the Menendez SISTERS they would be free today
Absolutely!
Hopefully they get out soon. Now that Roy Rosello from Menudo says that Jose Menéndez raped him too. And both his story and the story Lyle Menéndez have said coincide with each other.
They’re literally murderers and threatened to kill the therapist but they should be free?…
He doesn't know what he's talking about they did not threaten to kill their therapist the therapist girlfriend told the police she overheard the conversation where the brother confessed
@@Cre8tivecircles If they were women nobody would call them murderers for killing their abusers. If a woman was being sexual assaulted by her father growing up and it damaged her so much that she murders him when she grew up, she’d be looked at as a victim and the father deserved it.
It’s crazy how desensitized Vlad is to the whole molestation thing 😬 These industry people truly are different.
He is desensitized to everything he’s like a doctor or cop even a robot alll 3 all 1 thing in common no emotion
He is sick
Scumbag , those 2 were raped by a psychopath since they were children
Even the prosecution said it was impossible for a man to rape another man cause “they don’t have the proper equipment “. If that trial would’ve happened today they would’ve looked at it differently.
He’s a diddler too
@4:57 "Whether he was molested or not I don't think that was a justification for what happened" I can't believe Vlad just said that. Thats some insensitive shit. You cant tell a victim that was was molested and raped , how to react when it comes to their abuser, smh 🤦♂. If my Dad did that shit to me and my mom let it happen, trust me i'm blowing both of their fucking heads off also.
Well it’s true!
Yea Vlad is a fed he can't agree with crimes lol
@@CantTellYou Their pre-planning and their actions and behavior after the murders show that they not only planned out the murders but took numerous steps to cover their tracks so that they wouldn't be caught. If evading justice was never their intent for example, why did they collect all the spent shotgun shells from the scene of the crime before the police arrived? Why did they dispose of the rifles they used somewhere in Mulholland Drive before they made their 911 call to the police? Why did they call 911 and say that someone murdered their parents but left out one crucial detail -- that they were the someone who murdered their parents? Why did they tell detectives that the mafia put a hit on their parents? Most people know why, but these folks, including the brothers, they have dozens of excuses on hand to explain and excuse their actions in the hopes that they can make an argument for having their life sentences overturned on appeal.
And keep in mind that the defense tried to claim imperfect self defense in order to secure manslaughter convictions. You purchase your weapons with someone else's ID, murder your parents by storming into their living room with guns blazing and then claim imperfect self defense, irregardless of whatever "future" threat they believed their parents posed to them. If they believed that their parents posed a threat to them in the future, they should have just gotten up and left, call the police, etc..
Unless the parents were in the commission of threatening their lives or well being in that moment they really have no leg to stand on. That's the central question that should be at the heart of the defense, but instead all the defense offered was innuendo, crocodile tears, and unfound claims that the parents were posing an imminent threat to them at the time they were murdered. Sociopaths are accomplished liars and they can conjure up whatever pent up emotion they need to get what they want. I love how supporters like to pretend that there has never been a sociopath in history who ever cried convincingly in court, or in regular life in general. Just look at a number of youtubers. The tears may be real, but the sincerity is absent.
it was premeditated and took advantage of their inheritance
@@CantTellYou Also, keep in mind that right after the brothers murdered their parents in cold blood, they proceeded to shower effusive praise about their parents to the press and during their funeral services. It wasn't until they were being tried for murder that they began wth character assassinating them. Just something worth pondering over, seeing as how the groupies claim that their behavior after their murders were nothing out of the ordinary. There are reasons why the brothers' activities raised the eyebrow of detectives and it wasn't because the brothers were being singled out and persecuted by the Beverly Hills Police Department.
The parents got what they had coming…. FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS!!!!
And Diddy
Oh my god.....the thing at the end where Fanzese's kid sees the Menendez brothers on the cover of The National Enquirer and says, "Look Mommy - Daddy's friends!" That killed me, man.
Ppl don't understand.. it's not "is rape bad enough" it's the fact that the rape, along with the full expansion on how they grew up with multitudes of trauma. The sports trauma, the physical, sexual, and verbal abuse, it creates a different mindset than a normal household would. They weren't in their right mind, they grew up differently and only felt one option available. Now if you grew up in a happy loving household, and one day got raped, you wouldn't have the same reaction, your mindset is different based on your experiences and your awareness of right and wrong. You don't have the different reality. You can't even comprehend the truama they went through. It's ingrained into them from their childhood. Even small things like yelling a lot can change the way you precieve things. Imagine being tortured by ur parents, being taught about rape & incest & the way the world should be (when it's not) that's what you learn. They are a product of their parents nightmare.
Amen 👏🏻
Bro…I totally disagree. Their “abuse” mixed with them being entitled spoiled brats led to them doing that. Plenty of people that have way harder lives and dealt with much more abusive situations and they didn’t blow peoples heads off with shot guns.
Yes true but having your parents do that. I dont blame them. Thats sick @@dominiquewilson
There are too many friends, relatives, coaches, teachers, etc WHO WITNESSED the abuse and Kitty DID have a hand in it. They were legitimately in fear for their lives. It was sadistic abuse. Jose also abused boy bands
Why didn't all these people report the abuse? I don't believe not 1 of them, including the menendez boys, to say they were being so abused they sure did enjoy spending those millions of dollars with a big Cheshire cat smile on their face.
@@annc6046 Well, never let the truth get in the way of your hate
@nonyabiz550 hate for who? 2 ungrateful liars that killed their parents to gain unbridled access to their parents' wealth. I guess murdering the people that gave you life is alright 👍
No there wasn’t and like he said wether they were molested, does not justified for them to kill their parents.
@@malegi29 There were numerous family, friends, coaches, etc who testified to witnessing not only the physical abuse but sexual abuse. You're not even competent to watch the trial and comprehend what's happening. There was a coach who saw Jose punch Lyle as a child. There were cousins and aunts and uncles who saw Jose take Eric in the bedroom while they were staying there. That old ghoul, Dominic Dunn and Diane Dimond both admitted the SA happened. You must be a pedo to say that's not what Jose deserved
That’s wild how dismissive you are of the two boys’ molestation. I know male victims aren’t usually taken seriously anyway but that’s just sad.
Welcome to mens world
Indeed. Men and boys are expected to defend themselves from their s-x--l assaulters, and succeed. No wonder they're not believed when they _are_ SA'd!
When he said "entertainment industry", that pretty much proves it.
Exacly
Love how Michael clearly says he was on the way out when OJ got locked up, then proceeds to talk about spending almost a year with the Menendez brothers. Then Vlad "was that before the OJ case?"
Where’s the confusion??
hard to believe they're still locked up when this psycho murderer raised to murder walked out. That's screwed up.
Did had nothing to offer the government
The father has recently been accused of drugging and raping a 14 year old member of the Menudo music group, that he was the head of.
The way Vlad is discussing them is really unsettling.
Zero research as well. He's a lazy podcaster.
@@Polentaccio Amen.
That Mark Jackson basketball card with both brothers in the background living it up after they killed their parents, wild as hell.
Man that pic send chills
Same comment 💯 yea that's creepy right
If you watch their movie or the law and order TV show about them it gives more details of why they did what they did they literally live their lives the way they did before they kill their parents but if I was molested and raped constantly since a little child even as an adult still being victimized and told that I can have a life I don't know what I would do to my abusive to escape that life
One of the most expensive basketball cards
Lol i got that card
Saying 'its still not an excuse' when most us don't know what its like to be in such a harrowing situation where your protectors are your predators is wildly insensitive. We don't know how we would react after enduring that level of abuse over 10-15 years.
Exactly people shouldn’t judge if they never been in such a painful situation like they were 😣
@@lostwoods5687 I'm sure many people must have said this to you somewhere, but here goes.
When you're abused in THAT way from age 6, it significantly affects your judgement and reasoning. it's easy to say "move out and get a job", when you have the luxury of rational thinking, but the brothers didn't. For years they were abused and had their minds twisted, and for years they were denied proper counselling to fix their minds (only got counseling as young adults, just before killing their parents). How were they just meant to suddenly gain the wisdom of the ordinary person after a decade of torment? Soldiers struggle for years to return to civilian mindset after months away on a campaign. Same goes for other PTSD sufferers
Regarding the other family members, remember this was the 80s and José was powerful and rich. In the 80s, you can do what you want to your kids without anyone caring. The family members have also said that they never believed it because the idea of their successful relative raping his kids was too outrageous to believe, no matter how many warning signs there were.
Was parricide wrong? Objectively yes. But if your father did to you or your brother what José did to his boys, you're definitely gonna consider murdering him and then spending his money in celebration.
@@lostwoods5687their father was probably a freemason
@@hussainmartins5985 🎯🎯🎯👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
We never know what we would become given the same situation. If I was being raped by one parent with the other parents blessing from Kindergarten on I’d be fucked up too. Most people go on to hurt strangers, their own kids, and themselves but these two went to the source. Pick your evil - there wasn’t any help and this was the result.
Don’t you know? Everyone on the internet is perfect and they woulda did this and they woulda did that?
The brother were never raped. Their sob story is obviously fabricated. I can't believe so many people actually bought it.
@@ProLifeAtheistXX come on man, have some remorse, you weren’t there so you don’t know, neither do I, so don’t judge these guys, you would’ve most likely did the same, no matter how perfect you THINK you are
@@Cassius-m5v
1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't think I'm perfect, in fact I know I'm not.
3. Murder is unacceptable and the Menendez brothers deserve to rot in prison.
@@ProLifeAtheistXX you really seriously think you would NEVER under ANY circumstances Murder someone???? Come on bro be honest, you can’t say what you won’t do in a situation you’ve never been in , sorry to break it to you but not everyone gets to live a privileged life well protected 24/7 . Anyone who says “murder is unacceptable they must rot” you’ve GOT TO BE living in a fantasy fairy tale land to think there’s never a situation where you must do what you gotta do to LIVE. Kill or be killed & have a fair chance in trial to get out free and be with your family once again. So you mean to tell me if a man of my size ?? (6’0 200 pounds) if a man of my size were to attempt to r@pe you…. You wouldn’t at least TRY to K!ll him ???? I don’t believe it… sorry
Finally realized who Michael reminds me of. He has a lot of similarities with actor Harvey Keitel. Looks, voice, mannerisms. They could play brothers in a movie.
Lmfao I can’t unsee this now.
looks like a conman to me. buy my pizza! buy my wine! "i knew sammy the bull very well"
then sammy says he never met him in the street 😂 both lying garbage
Yessssss.. I was thinking who does this dude remind me of... thank you
AnnnnnD, and (Liam Newsan/Nison) also
I thought it was him at first glance
The mother knew what the father was doing. Also the mother was molesting Lyle. While Erik wasn’t being molested he was being R’d all the way thru high school. Learn your facts before making such confident claims.
Wild asf
The abuse excuse
Yes!!!! This is the second channel tonight saying that Kitty wasn't part of the SA!!! BS.
He testified extensively !!!!
Vlad did you just say that if they were molested killing their molester isn't the right thing to do I bet you wouldn't be saying that if someone you loved was molested
But it isn't the right thing to do, and certainly not going on a lavish shopping spree after. What's that saying about all sins being the same? They could have left and given up the access to a fortune. Money was priority #1 or at the very least a secondary motivation. The abuse likely had become normal to them as they didn't appear remorseful or traumatised until after they got caught. Also, at what point did they even begin to use the abuse angle because like most things in the judicial system; it was an angle they used for sympathy regardless of how true it was or wasn't.
@@rogetrogetgiddythey couldn't leave as their father was well connected and said to them if they did leave, he would hire someone to find them and kill them. Its victim blaming to say oh they should just leave! When you're free from your abusers you don't act perfectly, they spent money as that was normal to them, shopping sprees are a way for some victims to cope. Women have done the same after they have killed their husbands or whatever, it is common. They shown empathy and they have recently as they teach therapy for abuse victims in prison. They've said themselves as their family has said too, money motivation makes no sense.
@@rogetrogetgiddyI think the shopping spree was a way of destroying what he had built he was very boastful about what he had earned but the abuse is never normal they wanted it to end and professionals said they had to mental capacity of a 10 year old I think they thought it was a way out without ever having to see their abuser again
@@rogetrogetgiddy bro, if you've just killed the devil and got millions as a reward, you'd splash the cash too.
@@hussainmartins5985 I've watched enough movies to know that, when you suddenly gain a ton of cash through nefarious or illegal means, you don't go on shopping sprees. You lay low.
This time period is probably the last time Erik & Lyle were ever together 😔
They are together now. Lyle was transferred to Erik's prison it only took 22 years for that to happen tho.
What do you mean of course not a reason. I’m a Pisces Empath and I think they thought they had no choice. Their entire life as torture. Even the prosecutor said back then they could only find one person in everyone they tried that said anything nice about Hose and the mum and that was the secretary. (and she probably didn’t know them well). Even family members said how terrible the parents were.) 5:09
The father who worked at a division of RCA did horrible things not just molest them but horrific sexual acts.
Very unfair assessment though Val of the boys. Very inappropriate not to vehemently condemn child abusers. If you were informed on what happened to the boys you would feel ashamed for what you’re saying. Multiple other people and family have confirmed that they were abused and Jose abused other people as well. Everyone can’t be lying. I hope you or one of your loved ones never has to experience that to understand why they did what they did. Not only was it incest but child s.a. That started for one of the brothers when they were 6 years old. Horrific. Not a laughing matter.
“I was on Death Row.”
Lol. Such a rare statement to hear.
Franceese was never on death row. He cooperated with the federal government in 1989 and was never charged with murder. Why would he be on death row? All lies.
If jails are crowded you might be put in a certain section that you normally would not be in. Does not make him a liar
You know the “hole” depending if you’re in a federal prison or not might be where death row is
Who’s this asshole? Why was he in prison? Cause the guys did what they had to do with rapist father and accomplice mother.
You don't think being raped by your father and the mother enabling is a cause for murder? Do you realize what that does to someone? How disgusting and perverse?
I was in there with the ninja killers. Vlad: Wait.. what?
Here we go Vlad acting like he knows everything & the story better than it's already been told 😂
Mispronunciation of names, etc. lol
Here goes Vlad now he going to interview the ninja brothers
So sad to see people who have no knowledge talking like this. The mother was abusing them, too! Do your research!!
1:48 Eric was not ''the weaker''. Not to diminish Lyle's trauma but Eric was abused by jose for much longer, apparently up until the murders. He turned to his brother for help as he couldn't deal with that anymore - again, that's being traumatized not ''weak''.
He means in terms of personality...Lyle was the Alpha, Erik was not.
Your goofy ass don't even kno them he does clown
This dude is ridiculously attractive for his age
He looks more attractive now then when he was younger
He looks better now but I think it's because he's had his teeth done and it's changed his face shape a bit.
Ok now i dont feel so weird lol
How old is he ?
@@jeansmallwood558273, believe it or not
His body language tells me he didnt believe them when they said they didnt do it
That ending part was funny hey look theirs daddys friends lol
You know what, you might not think its the right thing to do but when u are that traumatized/ abused often times u dont THINK. You never know how you will react to shit like that.
They were both abused in severe ways, which included being sexually molested by their dad and emotionallyand physically abused by their mother.. They were treated that way in prison because they were seen as handsome rich kids who had everything, rather than victims as nobody had any idea what they had been through. As the head of the Mafia what would he do to a person sexually abusing his brother, or lets pretend they were both female? How differently would they have been treated then?
Rosie O’Donnell says it’s time to release them. I refused to watch the video or read the article, but that’s what the headline said. She’s gotten rather close with one of the brothers
but what is your view om the case ?
I have the infamous NBA Basketball Card with them sitting courtside.
I truly believe that it's worse being accused of child molestation than capital murder ! I'm sorry for saying this, but that father did not deserve to live, and regarding, she did nothing ! What is this ??
Do I feel bad for their parents? Not even slightly. If the testimony is true, and I do believe it is, they deserved far worse.. may they burn in hell
They are murderers. Convicted.
@@LenaS-m90 Blaming the victims is lame. It's the oldest game in criminal trials.
@@elijahFree2000 I don't see anyone NOT blaming Epstein who was also a child mol*ster lmao. And he could never defend himself cuz he was guilty af. Same with the brothers' father Jose
The mom was sexually abusive, too. The parents were violent tyrants.
Lyle Menendez is if Sam Harris and Ben Stiller had a baby.
Love listening to Mike great story teller
And liar
The way these brothers killed their parents and the way they acted afterwards . Tell me they were definitely molested , traumatize and bullied . They had no compassion for their parents they totally disassociated from them .
This is not a trait that can be simulated differently for other and they obviously have affection for each other as brother.
They would have turn the gun on each other if it was all about the money .
Their situation made it easy for them to murder their parents . Eric wanted to move out but his father wanted to continue rapping him and he was suicidal that is why they did this.
But now I am sure they would have seek help from their relative to help them move form a repulsive and horrendous environment.
Praying that they will be free .
Excellent take. I used to think the brothers were liars but rewatched the court testimonies and their emotions detailing the alleged abuse were raw and real. You cant fake what they were going through on the stand. And then in 2023 Roy Rosello dropped the bombshell that their father the senior Menendez drugged and raped him when he was 13. It's time to free the Menendez brothers.
Vlad if the father did that, then yes it was very justified
Yea in Prison they kill child molesters, but when the molested do it, its fucked up?
If they were molested and mom knew I think it's morally justified
These interviews are amazing! I could listen to Michael all day long!!
if it was the menandaz sisters, it would be a wholeeeeeee diiiiiiffffereeeeent story.
Moral of this story is that this information is enough to release them real talk and stop putting them through reliving the past if you’re not going to let them go.
Let’s start a petition to free them
There’s already a refilling of new evidence under review that has a due date of this month which will hopefully lead to them being released. I believe mark geragos filed it last year.
My Lord Michael Framzese is freaking gorgeous 🤣😂
5:08
I don’t know about that. We’re talking about molestation which is a major violation.
So what does that tell you .
They are both on the same yard together now. I believe they are at Donavan.
They’re in a prison in San Diego. And I think it’s a medium security prison. They get phone calls whenever and don’t use prison uniforms .
They do a lot of good work within the prison too x
Great interview!
Those that say that someone who has been se..molested and assaulted, by their own father at that, has mo right to have recourse, meeds to resd something on trauma. I hope you never have to experience something so horrible. I have.
So what was it like sharing a cell with The Melendez Brothers and Tupac
Vlad. You obviously have never been abused. The Menendez brothers deserve to be free, theyve done their time.
Jose Menendez was a pedophile. What the brothers did to their parents is terrible, but that doesn’t mean they were not sexually abused by their father
and their mother was an enabler to that. There is a new witness that has come forward that claims they were drugged and raped by their father when they were 13 years old. Turns out this witness was a member from the band Menudo. Their father was an executive at RCA records at the time, and band member Roy Rosello was introduced to Jose Before they got signed to RCA records. There is currently a documentary that supports the Menendez brothers claims , and also introduces Roy’s claim who was also sexually abused by the Edgardo Diaz the creator and producer for Menudo for years prior to him introducing Roy to Jose. Roy is also trying to seek justice for this abuse. It’s a very traumatic story that everyone needs to follow revealing the serial molestors and rapist that continued this abuse with other and future members. IMO considering the trauma the Menendez brothers endured it’s hard to find any sympathy for these horrible parents who tragically met their death due to their transgressions.
What part of they reloaded the gun after first round of shots, threatened to kill therapist , went on a huge shopping spree after shopping spree and much more. That's what is hurting their case.
I disagree with Vlad. If your parents are molesting you then you're definitely justified in killing them. I'm not saying that's what happened to the Mendez brothers though.
@@CantTellYou they failed to convict them the first time. Half the jury did not believe it was 1st degree murder. It took another trial where the judge did not allow any of the evidence that they were molested in their defense.
@@dariog36th still murder
@@mike04574 it would’ve been manslaughter. That’s what half the jury agreed on.
@@dariog36thManslaughter is when you don’t have the intention to kill somebody but you accidentally do such as self defense which is the reason they used, however the defense proved that they planned ahead (premeditated) by buying the guns a week before the murders, using another person’s identity and they ambushed their parents while they were sitting on the couch watching Tv (no self defense).
@@malegi29 well in the 1st trial half the jury agreed it was manslaughter.
Question if your parents are clearly trying to kill you off because you threaten to tell the police what they’ve been doing to you for so many years what would you do?
Vlad is completely disregarding what those boys went through at the time which led to doing what they did. I’m sure he’d want someone dead if his child was being molested. They were in fear for their lives and never had a chance since they were young. If Gypsy got out, they should too. Praying this refilling of new pieces of evidence gets them out of prison 🙏🏾
Ya Vlad he hung out with the Menendez Brothers like it's chillin with your friends on a Sat night lol. They were locked up in jail ain't no hanging out in there lol.😂😂😂
They were raped since they were 6 yrs old I would have done the same thing too
That is crazy trauma to live with
Legit Interview. Thank you.
I always thought if you confessed to a murder that Dr. patient confidentiality was out the door I guess not. Obviously threatening to kill the therapist you're done.
They didn’t threaten the therapist. The therapist told his girlfriend all about it. Then when they broke up she went to the cops and that’s when they opened up the investigation again.
@@dariog36th I never knew that,what a crazy situation altogether. I thought Michael said something about threatening to kill the therapist.
The therapist, Dr Oziel, made up that Lyle threatened him.@@Pops1811
People cant take seriously men sexual assault but it does happen ! How many things i have heard i believe people are enable to do very nasty things that you cant even imagine !!! So yes sexual assault is crime and most cases come from relatives ! I guess people still sleep on it
Calling spending the dead parents money "just not smart" shows you how this dude really thinks
the way vlad was so dismissive of the menendez brothers being sexually assaulted and saying that was no reason to kill the father ...reminds me of how he came after jaguar wright on the pierce morgan show..im starting to put 2 and 2 together about vlad. He's coming across as one of these industry abusers himself which is why he wanted to dismiss and silence jagaur wright.
This guy has not informed himself enough from evidence to be in this kind of interview
X-Raided was locked up with tha brothers too..
Yeah and Lyle helped with his case to get out early.
After they killed there parents they apparently went on a shopping spree bought houses and lofts in NY and other places but in 1991 I believe not sure the brothers bought court side seats to the Knicks at Madison square garden, if you look up I believe John starks there they are front row... Crazy bet that card is worth something or nothing but it's real. Edit: it's Mark Jackson not John starks
It actually is worth money because they are on it
They had always spent alot of money! The parents gave them money to keep up appearances throughout their entire lives. Also their parents family members were executors of the will, money etc every purchase had to be agreed
There is no respect for justice. We now know José was a child rapist, and the mother was an enabler. This is a permanent stain on the American system-a failure to protect children and a lack of empathy for abuse victims. As a society, we now have the means to voice our discontent with this broken system. I hope Erik receives justice in his lifetime.
Instead of calling the police they killed their parents.
Vlad you are misinformed regarding the mistress informant. Also Erik was being R’d by Jose all the way thru high school. These boys suffered severely at the hands of their father.
My therapist told me upfront that there were three exceptions to confidentiality. Homicide, suicide, and pill shopping.
@emilymathews7073 Pill shopping is exactly that, getting meds from multiple doctors. Addicts will do this to get extra pills. Therapists are mandated to report this in my area, as well as homicides(threats or otherwise), and serious intentions of suicide. It is for everyones safety and for legal reasons.
This the interviews we want. Not these goofy as rappers that all faded all interview
Its what you want. Dont speak for everybody.
@@michaelgundersen2982 you speak for yourself not everyone.
Contradicted yourself there a bit goofy
@@yodaddy9362 Go away.
@@369pendulum go make me a sambich 🥪
I agree. Rappers just aren’t interesting. Dime a dozen. Most have no real talent.
What about the time Franzese was on the Titanic moments before it sank 😅
Mark Geragos is working to get them freed right now. He thinks he has a case that they’ve served enough time and aren’t a danger to society.
They have like a 5% chance.
@@readynow12345no. They will walk. End of November they are out.
@@MaktubJess We'll see, even if they do they are still evil to the core, especially what they did to the mother then go back to the car to reload Jesus Christ man.
@@readynow12345 and do you know what the “mother” did to them besides being an accomplice to rape for 12 years? She abused Lyle from ages of 6 to 13. Touched him, bathed him, asked him to touch her naked in bed with dad next to them, kissed him, etc. he made the right decision.
@@MaktubJess Get real that's what they say lol, none of this has been proven by the way, when you're facing life without parole possibly a death sentence you will do or say anything to save your own skin, Kitty was a good mom, do you know she was doing erik's homework when they blew her head off real bad mother, don't fall for their lies dude
Hard to pay attention when the drum set is not set up good in background
Michael keeps getting more and more interesting....🤔
you speak on something you know nothing about. the brothers WERE molested for years, up until their parents death. there is letters and photos of the abuse, erik didn’t kill his parents. he shot and missed, lyle killed them, left, reloaded and came back to finish off his mother. erik sat on the stairs too afraid.
I'm only here for the drum kit.
I truly believe the brothers were belittled and molested. When being interviewed it’s like they are right back there in time and it affects them still. Pops was a sick puppy and ma turned her head. Criminey I feel bad for them!
Worst interview I’ve ever seen.
Thank you Swety for the Audio. 🐄 🐖 🐇
He is so handsome oh my gosh!
Every now and then Vlad will say something i didn't know
It's insensitive how ignorant people can be about this case after all these years and get facts wrong. The OJ trial didn't happen before the Menendez case, it happened after it. And that impacted tremendously on the rulings and defense. The issue with the mother, spending spree all of it are common questions that are answered again and again.
It's funny how you'll be more okay and open with interviewing and laughing with a mob boss than believing these boys who were violently abused throughout their lives.
The truth is that it's already in your heart. And if I said they are innocent and God knows that they are innocent, you will not believe them. And if I said they are liars but they are not liars, you will believe me. And so I'm not gonna say a word like Leslie did other than have patience.
The jury convicted them. They are murderers. They are liars.
You was there right lol..
Never heard menendez and Ninja's in the same sentence 😅😅
I feel really bad for the two brothers they have gon through hell ever since they were born I don’t know if the parents plan on making kids for them to enjoy putting their pain on to their own kids if that was the plan I’m just thinking this might be their way of putting their stress out and it’s really disturbing and very horrifying
Their spending was a trauma response
2:51 The fact that Vlad believes this BS is just wild to me….
If they were able to fool the cops, I am positive they were able to come up with a plan to not go to jail.
There's always 2 sides of a story. Unfortunately, we will never hear the other side.