Is Joey Wheeler the Greatest Duelist in Yugioh? ( Joey Wheeler )
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- Is Joey Wheeler the greatest Duelist in Yugioh?
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Joey was always the best…
He represents us…
He represents growth…
He represents potential…
Starting as a violent punk,
Then reforming to a rookie duelist,
Then a novice who took down champions and cheaters,
Then becoming a certified top tier duelist,
Then a full fledged world saving hero…
Unfortunately, he doesn’t always get the sweet victories he deserves (mainly due to some authorial BS)
But that never stops him.
He keeps persevering.
Joey is the Best.
Kaiba literally took himself from an orphan to the head of a major corporation and the 2nd best duelist in the world without having to rely on the heart of the cards. Kaiba represents growth and potential and never cheated except against cheaters while Joey outright cheated on multiple occasions against non cheaters. Joey is literally such a bad duelist he could’ve beaten Yugi in the duelist kingdom finals and didn’t cause he didn’t understand strategy or basic math. Fact is if Joey didn’t have plot armour and didn’t cheat he would’ve been knocked out of duelist kingdom and battle city both times by Rex Raptor.
Even if Rex lost Red Eyes summoning one more monster would’ve won him the duel, time wizard doesn’t take your opponent’s life points. In Battle City Mokuba should’ve disqualified Espa, invalidated Rex’s loss, returned his dragon then Rex would’ve duelled Joey and beat him taking time wizard.
@@tiffanyroberts6460 keep glazing
@@mariotheballer362 if you want Joey to represent you then you’re a slacker making excuses for being a 3rd wannabe, I’ll be Kaiba anyday.
Duke devlin and Zigfried: XD
And giving us more upgrade cards.
So awesome
speaking of joey, part of me is always surprised joey and kaiba didn't have as much a rivalry/stories interact more considering how mant parallels the two have. joey has red eyes black dragon, kaiba blue eyes white dragon, joey grew up poor while kaiba is rich, the two both had abusive fathers and they care about their younger siblings. Im surprised those two didn't have moore interactions regarding those elements
Omg i didn't see that many parralels until I read ur comment! Your right there like opposites
Joey: Wow, I never noticed that either, It Makes sense, I'm an idiot lol
Seto: Yes, you are, also the reason we never had a rivalry is because your a 3rd rate duelist with a 4th rate Deck
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@@MultiversalStudios Seto: He's only got a few good cards, but he still keeps that useless Time Wizard, but he's a ok duelist
@Paraone Ngatai Seto:Exactly, I don't need luck
I remember reading about the creator of Yu Gi Oh that Joey is the strongest duelist even more than Atem and Kaiba. He even said he had to nerf Joey in the sense to make him closer to the readers and demonstrate growth. He wrote Joey that way to demonstrate how quickly he went from a nobody that barelly knows how to duel to become a top duelist in no time.
Heck in manga Joey never loses to Kaiba.
Joey lost to Kaiba twice in the manga actually:
The duel in the Pegasus tournament, and the royal duel.
You know, I was a crazy fangirl over Kaiba back then and wanted him to demolish anybody including Joey in dueling. But the older I get, the more I'm starting to love Joey and realise he really is THE BEST BOI !!! And the creepy chin is just icing on the cake xD
My favorite aspect of his character is Joey’s perseverance. He plays til the end if able and never quits.
Let's just put it this way;
First few episodes, Joey is basically hopeless - just learning how to play the game with a deck filled with nothing but normal type monsters and no magic or trap support. Within just a few _weeks_ of that...he's placing _Second_ in the biggest Duel Monsters' Tournament that the world has ever known. And then after that, he places fourth in the _next_ big tournament.
The fact that Joey went from Fool to Finalist in such a short time, is _literally insane;_ especially considering how badly he dueled in Duelist Kingdom.
in addition to that, he should have come second in that tournament too, he was just literally put into a coma.
@@elbobinho Tbf he deserved to lose to Marik as much as he deserved to beat Odion
Joey is the most relatable
Joey is the spiderman of the yugioh universe xD
haha this is actually so true!
Actually, they exist in the main Marvel timeline (not MCU), meaning Joey Wheeler is the strongest non-magic user in the Yugioh series.
I don't know why but this just makes so much sense.
Kaiba Joey survived a attack from rah and if he attacked he would've won the duel
Let's not forget that without him yugi would've lost to you let's not forget that he survived death himself and you still think he's a mid rate duelist let's not forget that theoretical he beated yugi himself by giving him his red eyes back and yugi would've never go minimum nah he would've go out max with all 3 Egyptian gods meaning Joey won against the Egyptian gods
I've always been a Joey-Stan because growing up with the show and card game, I was always the one with garbage cards and I had to find the right strategy that worked. Of course that's all out the window now with how the game has evolved but I'll always hold those times close to my heart. If anyone wants to have an old-school tournament let me know lol.
Joey taking control of Blue-Eyes against Kaiba is all time Yugioh Moment. Like top 5 all time, every series.
He has a great potential. And he is number one in our hearts.
Couldnt have said it better myself 👌
Joey's dependence on luck has always been overstated. Kaiba has drawn the perfect hand combo plenty of times, but nobody gives him crap for luck. Meanwhile, I remember a few times when Joey was visibly shaken by a crappy starting hand.
Joey would take Jayden to school man. Pegasus, the creator of duel monsters, said that wheeler was 3rd overall of greatest duelists ever, and that’s including elite pro’s like aster and jesse. Joey even possibly (probably) beat yugi at the end of battle city arc. All in all, joey’s the best
True he probably change his deck a bit to
Cap he would be flattened with synchro and xyz. Don't even get me started on pendulums
@@Diamondr11BlueI mean realistically every duelist in gz or Yu-Gi-Oh! Would because the decks are shit. So are the xyz, pendulum, and link decks in the new series plus Joey has the ability to beat any one who isn’t important to the plot
@@AnorexicSausauge no he doesn't. Joey is literally a shit duelist who depends in luck lmao
Yeah but Pegasus didn’t even know Jayden existed at the point
Later series implied that Yugi isn't the only duelist who can manipulate his deck. It is heavily implied, especially in the last duel of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, that a duelist who has a strong bond with his own deck will be rewarded by the deck itself with whatever card he desires, at any time.
I agree with everything you said except for the part where jaden would loose the Joey. He has bs main character powers like yugi. Joey (kinda) has them too but not to the existent that jaden has. He has spirits helping him duel like yugi and he is the reincarnation of the “The Supreme King” like how yugi has the powers of the pharaoh. Joey is just lucky.
Thank you for agreeing with the video! And I really respect the honesty about Jaden vs Joey, you make some great points!
MC plot armor against Joey I don’t think going off of how GX has him as the 3rd best duelist in the world
Have you seen Joey's pulls?
Tbh I always thought Jaden was based off Joey. He's more a goof, and relied on pretty much monster cards and fusion, and really overly specific and luck based strats, with a bit better support and stall.
@@xxxrnfxxx Joey legit gets bad pulls too. His luck deck turns against him quite often
Considering Yugi and Kaiba had connections to the ancient pasts and had the power to draw the card they needed in every duel they participated in, Joey would be the best “human” duelist that was the closest to be able to draw upon the power of the “Heart of the Cards.” He was also one of the only three duelists that was able to call upon the power of the legendary dragon cards Hermos to defeat the Orichalcos.
Joey has always been my favorite duelist.
Joey lacks on all 2 departments:
1. He is poor so no rare cards.
2. He is inexperienced
However, he is extremely cunning.
He is determined and quick to adapt to new situations.
He is a strategist that utilizes anything and everything in his arsenal.
Most of the times he loses a duel is because he has a "4th rate deck" because he buys shit cards + he has the mentality that "life is hard so to survive you need to get rich fast" and as a result he challenges his luck.
The same thing that ruined him family.
Because Joey knows that life won't give him any chances..... ever.
The only time life gave him hope, was when he met Yugi and thet became friends.
Grandpa trained him
Yugi believed in him
In the city finals Joey was using a broken deck to fight the final boss and he won.
Marik used all his tricks.... had an op burn deck.... had Ra.... and Joey won without a millennium item.
Same duel happened to Mai and she was standing there desperate.
Joey is by no means an Ace duelist but he has the determination to be one.
To make is simple
1. Kaiba is rich beyond people wealths
2. Yugi has a grandfather who owns a shop, and yugi's deck is downright from his grandfather
I'd say Joey's the best non-magically enhanced duelist. Yugi has Atem, Kaiba has his past self, Jaden has the Supreme King, Yusei has the Crimson Dragon, etc. I don't recall Joey even being able to see spirits really. I'd rank him just under every Protag and main rival (specifically only the rivals that can SEE spirits though.) Definitely above every main villain that isn't like a god like Don Thousand or Darkness. This also of course only counts his base skills. It would be very difficult to count his boost from Brooklyn Rage.
Joey can probably win against jaden when he isn't fused with yubel. But season 4 jaden is a whole other level and more tactical on his plays compared to his former self.
who is season 4 Jaden? Are you talking about JuDo
He's talking about jaden/judai from season 4 of yugioh gx
S1 Jaden honestly beats Joey pretty handily. Even without Sabatiel to make plays on the same level as Ceremonial Duel Yugi wiping out the God Cards, Jaden defeats individual Sacred Beasts turn after turn with basic E-Heroes. Note: Sacred Beasts are repeatedly stated to be as powerful as the Egyptian Gods. The only DM characters who can canonically claim to have performed a similar feat besides the aforementioned Yugi are Ishizu (before past life shenanigans) and … yeah, just her. Atem technically beats Slifer but he couldn’t get it off the board, Kaiba can barely even beat God Cards with his own, Marik always has Ra, Mai steals Ra but can’t actually get rid of it if it is summoned, Joey was done for if Odion could manage his fake Ra etc.
Plenty of people would upscale from the S1 Jaden who beat Kagemaru but there are still some who can perform similar feats or better when the Sacred Beasts reappear in S3.
1. Jesse forces Yubel-possessed Marcel to use Armityle > all 3 Sacred Beasts with his Rainbow Dragon.
2. Adrian is obscenely confident he can beat the above Yubel after getting his Exodia deck and presses a stronger Yubel before they recovered their duel energy after Zane to body him.
3. Jaden beats prime Yubel who specifically chose to not use the Sacred Beasts against him because the rest of her deck was better.
4. Jaden’s final duel in GX involves facing post-BC Yugi/Atem with all three God Cards, matches Ceremonial Duel Yugi blow for blow and proceeds to beat up Slifer when Yugi and Atem are working together.
4.5. Ceremonial Duel Yugi < GX Yugi who specifically sends Jaden back in time to face post-BC Yugi (the ultimate duelist in his mind) to teach Jaden how to duel for fun again instead of winning. Implication being that GX Yugi can’t beat him so he needs the strongest Yugi to do so.
5. BBT Jaden and no Stardust Yusei spend the movie carrying Yugi/Atem against Paradox with the strongest deck and cards in history. REBD and BEWD are worse than the 3 God Cards which implies Rainbow, Cyber End and Stardust Dragon are > 3 God Cards. Either way, BBT Trio >= DM Paradox > GX Paradox >= BBT Jaden > no Stardust Paradox > Stardust Yusei > no Stardust Yusei who is far more useful than Yugi against Paradox.
@Zong_Cheng - Pegasus says otherwise. Its already been said Joey is third best duelist. However this was during Aster's duel. Jaden isn't included so its up there for Jaden to take third best. If Joey beated Yami Yugi during battle city to get Red-Eyes back, and Jaden lost to that Yugi as Jaden went back in time, then its clear Joey XG version will most likely win.
@Zong_Cheng Number 5 though is interesting which is why I say most likely. Parodox isn't the Red-Eyes user, Joey is, the user and master of Red-Eyes. I heard that someone said the creator of Yugioh said Joey is very over powered. I haven't seen the manga but I heard Joey didn't loose to Kaiba from the manga.
My favorite duelist ever. I think what makes him the best is the fact that he holds his own against duelists with OP cards and he plays for passion (playing the game for the game's sake). Not to mention his performance against Marik. Not an experienced duelist like Mai, not another evil force (Yami Bakura), not some egotistic rich boy like Kaiba, not even the Pharaoh himself could make Marik worry. Yet an average guy, with an average deck, a determination bigger than the empire state building, and a "give 'em hell" attitude made one of THE most dangerous villains shit his pants (that speaks VOLUMES)
I think Jaden vs Joey could go either way. Even though Joey is my favorite think S4 Jaden would be too much. The duel would interesting too watch. I think Joey can possibly surpass Kaiba.
Crazy how far he got with what he had too work with.
This video was heavily laced with fact. The potential was all there. Big Jonouchi
Yesss! Thank you 👌
Fun fact: the writers originally intended for Joey to beat Marik, and win battle city. but some guy in the office said they couldn’t have the side character beat the main character otherwise people would lose interest.
this was a very interesting video so I was wondering do you think you could make more videos like this one analyzing what other characters true dueling skills or potential are, a character I was think you could do is Leo from 5d since he is kind of like Joey though the interesting thing about him is he doesn't have the luxury of having anyone to teach him how to be a better duelist and yet he is able to face off against a dark Signer and almost win though the dark Signer was one of the weakest ones but it still is a impressive feat, he was able to take advantage of Speed World 2 effect to help him in his duel with Lester and this was something his sister didn't even think of taking advantage of, as well as he even came up with a plan to get Lunas Ancient Fairy Dragon back from Lester and while Leo and Luna still lost their duel against Lester it is my opinion that they were both held back by the writers so they could easily have beaten Lester in the duel they had with him and could probably be made more impressive feat if you can believe Lester claims he is the second strongest member of the Iliaster and finally in Leos duel with Aporia while it is true he had a rough start to the duel the moment he got his confidence back he was able to counter all of Aporias attacks from hitting Jack and Luna now I am not sure if you think this would be interesting enough to make a video about since this doesn't really make him stand out as the greatest duelist and he isn't a main character so there's not that much to talk about Leo but I still feel like Leo has a lot of dueling potential that was never taken noticed of
Thanks for the comment! I can definitely do more character analyzations! Ill add Leo to the list :)
Joey's great. He's part of the reason I got ye olde Starter Deck Joey back in the day.
Joey is one of my favorite characters plus it is true that most duels has a lot to do with strategy and luck but Joey relying on look so much makes him an interesting character because you don't really see a lot of characters from the show relying on luck based cards.
Why even ask he's clearly a third rate duelist.
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recently started binging the series again and in all honesty i kind of wish they had joey win at least 1 tournament throughout the whole series but i get it the series was always around 1) yugi and the pharohs bond & 2) yugi and kaibas rivarly.
Joey Wheeler is such a great character he's good enough to have his own spin-off. He can carry his own series. But the show is named Yu-Gi-Oh after all.
Joey sure is important - he's actually relatable to the audience. Another contribution is grounded story arc. Plus, they thanks to Wheeler characters had a chance to explain the rules.
I’ve always said Joey is the best duelist. His deck is bad but he always makes top 4 in every tournament.
Imagine if he had a good deck 🤔
That’s not even true he only got to top 8 in grand championship and he cheated in the other two tournaments.
@@MultiversalStudios a third rate duelist wouldn’t know how to handle a 1st rate deck.
Too be honest though, Odion was on the verge of beating him in Battle City
Joey got lucky a few times
In my opinion his peak was Walking the Dragons. Only the fact that he was one of the just 3 chosen duelists which gave him the opportunity to take a monster like Hermos in his possession tells a lot. Also he faced (twice) a reinforced Mai, and he could had won in their first encouter while he was very close in the second as well, Valon who also possessed a very powerful deck with Dartz's help and he beat him and lastly Rex who was never one of the elites but since he possessed the Seal and overall a lot stronger deck, it was a tough test as well
Joey being able to last so long against Mai after nearly dying in the first duel, Our boy was hardcore
@@lightdarksoul2097 That season was Joey's peak as duelist as well in my opinion. Both his duels against Mai proved that and also the fact that he beat Valon with such different dueling circumstances
@@kwylde1978 yeah I do wish we saw a full duel with him dueling with Kaiba and Yugi but it was cool and Joey kinda lost only due to his body not being able to hold out so long
I kinda disagree with people saying that Yugi having Dark Sage is cheating. The duels didn't all happen one after another so each of them had time before their duel to edit their decks to counter each other. Of course Yugi would take advantage of a card that he gave to Joey in the same way Joey took advantage of knowing Yugi would have the Summoned Skull in his deck. Where Joey got Time Wizard from doesn't really matter much.
I would love to see a Yugioh series where the show takes place after GX. The show would include characters from GX and Duel Monsters. They have another massive battle City tournament. Here would my final 8 would be: Yugi, Kaiba, Joey, and Bakura from DM. From GX I would be Jaden, Syrus with his new season 4 deck, Chazz, and Jessie.
That would be insanely awesome!!! But we know who would win 😉 Yugi!
@@MultiversalStudios Prehaps Jaden could win to pass the torch to him. Lol
@@gamerookie09 even though thats a good idea! I dont think i would want Yugi to lose to anyone lol
@@MultiversalStudios I don’t think the writers would have the balls either.
@@gamerookie09 lmao true 😂 in the tournament, I deffo I want to see Jaden Vs joey!
In a way Joey is , even tho he relly too much on luck. When you think about it he has no special powers , no god cards or ancient knowledge , yet he manages someone like Yami Marik to cripple in fear . And if that doesn't prove that Joey is among the greatest even Pegasus himself said that Joey is in 3rd place of the best duelist in the world he ever witnessed
The Joey phrases at the beginning had me laughing 😂
I always wanted to see Kaiba properly beat Yugi. (Not be about to win legitimately, and then some weird shadow realm shit happens, or win, but only because he threatened to kill himself) And I wanted to see Joey beat Kaiba. I think it would have added more to both rivalries (especially the former), if you knew both duelists were capable of winning.
I hope there will once come a miniseries or film as a sequel to darkside of dimensions with a world championship in which Joey beats Kaiba and Yugi and will become world champion
Omg same 🙏
Also, the key cards that aided Joey in Battle City weren't actually the cards he won, but the ones he brought himself, especially the Gilford and Gearfried cards.
Joey has Brooklyn rage
My body is ready!
Remember that In the GX Series Pegasus said to Aster Phoenix that Joey was third in his best duelists after Yugi and Kaiba
Jaden and Joey would make for a fun duel. I think Jaden takes it but Joey could definitely make it close
everyone talks about how joey wouldve won against marik, i feel like people forget that he shouldve lost to odion. yeah odion did choose to cheat, but he had the win in the bag and only cheated to keep up the charade that he was marik. joey is my favorite character, but he did in essance lose to odion
Here's Joey's feats
Started as a rebellious person
Started to make progress against winners from the last tournament as example rex or mai these 2 were of the strongest yet
He became a bit more better against yugi wich isn't canon to the manga then he beated weevil and espa roba or whatever his name was both cheaters
Then he was beating mako then he got into battle city survived rahs beam not just that Joey took down marik and would've gotten rah Wich he wouldn't add to his deck since he doesn't knows any egypt even tough he lost he survived death and gave yugi the tip to win against kaiba and even got into his body and after he woke up he wonders where yugi and says why they care not about him instead then he would've technically won against yugi against all 3 Egyptian gods meaning hes the best character of all time
I think Joey in the future (the same time that Jaden goes to school) would definitely have a much much better shot at taking him down than 'end of battle city' vs jaden. My reasoning is Jaden's built his deck to be much more cohesive, a lot of his monsters are in an archetype that allows for combos for most situations, and it only gets stronger once he gets his neospacians.
Joey has a ton of brick cards that don't do much. There was a scene in the 5th season where joey actually bricks, and while he does treat his red-eyes as his ace monster it's a vanilla 2400 atk 7 star monster. Joey doesn't actually run any of the Red-eye archetype support cards. By Jaden's time there more support for Red-eyes which would help him unclutter his deck (why does he even run swordsman of lanstar and battle warrior?) of bricks.
It's also speculated that in friendly duels, Joey can even beat Yugi, as there was an unshown duel at the end of season 3 where he was about to duel his friend for his red-eyes, and while we weren't shown the result or duel the 4th either says that he beat yugi or they got way too close and yugi gave him his card back after anyways; I doubt the latter because yugi's fate altering effect only really works in duels that are of greater importance.
If you guys are really into Joey the yugioh R manga series that takes place after duelist kingdom no huge spoilers but Joey duels many duelists and shows he is indeed no poser
My favourite part about Joey is his accent. Him having a New York accent made the show for me.
Regarding Joey winning against Jaden, unless Joey has upgraded his deck with more support cards to help him play his signature cards, I doubt he is gonna be able to handle Jaden.
Let's take into consideration a few things. Joey has to buy or trade to get new cards. Throughout the Yu-Gi-Oh!GX and 5D's series, we haven't heard anything regarding his status as a duelist or how has he lived his life. So for all we know, he is participating in tournaments with the same cards he used to play by the end of the DM series.
Meanwhile Jaden plays polymerization and combines whatever he wants, with whatever he wants, and gets a monster which has stats that are convenient for the situation he is in.
It's a no brainer that Jaden is gonna win against Joey.
red eyes for whatever reason is just more bad ass than blue eyes. sad they never made a super strong red eyes form
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Jinzo is one of the best cards in the game
An interesting thought though, that if Joey did have ties from back to Ancient Egypt, that perhaps he was Yami's general and best friend
OMG just watching this now I tell everyone even to myself constantly they Joey is not Rich, no Malleniun item and no Ancient Haritage.. like Wheeler is Awesome must say.. his growth was rediculous and awesome. One of my top 3 duelist in all Yugioh. Fr. 😁💪
Agreed!
Joey is the king of games and he always will be in my opinion
Joey has repeatedly shown a kind heart and passion for dueling he's never lost his purpose for dueling or his control (not counting mind control because it wasn't him in his mind) where as every other duelist has you could argue that yugi is similar since him and the pharaoh are different However I don't think yugi beats Joey without the pharaoh
Joey also proved himself in battle city where he WON against marrik (bad spelling) while technically he forfeited we can all agree he was one sentence from winning
On top of that as he refines himself he leans into red eyes black dragon and support cards more giving his boss monster the under dog lovable energy he has against Kaiba
Joey isn't gonna always win mainly because of his dependence on luck but he can't lose those strategies they are what make Joey himself the thrill of rolling a six or defeat of a tails keep his fans on the edge of their seat he could beat yugi if he put all his skill to work and hold that title as king of games from just about anyone
(Even Jaden/ yubel) and while not confirmed I feel that he inspired another duelist in gx like yugi did for Jaden
Someone else who carries the mantel of the mighty red eyes black dragon
There should have been another season where Joey just rolls through a second Battle City tournament, beats Yugi in the final four, and then beats Kaiba in the finals.
Well pegasus said that his top 3 duelists were (in order) Yugi, Kaiba and our favorite Joey Wheeler!
I see some guys talking about wheeler depending on luck to win, but I've seen Kaiba start with a hand with 3 White Dragons, 1 Lord of D and 1 flute. What are the odds of this happening?
I think Luck is in a component in any game as it is in life. All the most successful people in the world can likely mention a place where they get to where they are through simple luck. I would say it's why DnD and other games use Luck as a stat
Joey flat out is the best because I think he ended up doing really well with very few good cards and really no plot armor type of bullshit.
bro if joey had even a fraction of the recorses that Yugi and kaiba had the man would be a beast
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Joeys first starter deck is mine favorite.
Briefcase: has DMOC
Pathetic
Kuriboh appears:
Perfect
Its his brooklyn rage that makes him likeable
Couldnt agree more XD
for the jaden vs joey fight it come down to when he fighti jaden
but the duel would one of hell of match win or lose
i think joey could yuish from 5ds more than he could beat jaden
Should've showed Joey progression as one of the best in dark side of dimensions
Considering if you where to remove Main Character powers and such, Then Joey kinda is the best duelest. Jadan has MC Powers which well may not be as OP as Yugi MC Power (Draw any card you f-in want in your deck) its still OP Alot of his cards are BETTER IRL rather then worse (Unlike most of the other characters) but hey Plot Armor and such i get it.
So just to be clear, if either of the characters Joey or Jaden didn't have MC powers, you think Jaden would win because he has better cards? But Joey is a better duelist?
@@MultiversalStudios I Mean considering Joey has the cards that are over-all Better IRL, Jinzo is super strong depending on what we allow you can argue he has a number of other strong cards (Granted in some cases he only used them like once or such) Cards like Time Wizard has a 50% chance not a 1/3 Chance like in the show and such, so Better Deck / Better Duelist. As Jaden dosnt even know hes sopos to suffle his cards as he always pretty much starts with the same hand all the time.
@@THAC0MANIC yeah I agree, In real life if u didn't summon a fusion monster in Jadens deck, you kind of auto lose! Whereas in Joeys Deck it's like a mix of lots of different strategies, like u said Jinzo but also things like Gilford the lightning
@@MultiversalStudios exactly he might not show alot of his good cards at times but yeah ... I think he even has a copy cat and a Reflector which i mean Admitly i mighta done this following strats for the lols ... *Cough* Reflector + Honest (Tho joey dosnt have honest im sure but i think he had reflector, Then agian i think it was used against him been awhile snce ive watch the original yugioh) = Troll move
alot of joey cards are better then people give credit for.
I admit i dislike Yugioh GX Duel Acdemy mostly coz of how they treat the side characters, Bastion was cool for like 2 duels then thats it treated like a joke after that.
@@THAC0MANIC do you mean reflect bounder? Because I think that was espa robas card, but I agree about the bastion thing they should have kept him relevant especially since he was such a good duelist
I also favor Jaden over Joey. It would be a 10/10 duel to see though
Haha love the honesty and yeah I would also love to see this duel 👌 maybe one day! I have hope haha
the guy who has the same starting hand all the time and is prob one of the worst MC ... well 2nd worst MC in the yugioh series with fucken BS MC Powers? Not as OP as Yugi but still.
I kinda want to say, Draw with Joey vs Jaden.
Both are good at pretty much all the points you brought up and I feel are about on the same level as each other
What if imagine joeys have blue eyes White dragon in his deck combine own cards..
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I mean, it's easy to say he has the biggest progression when he starts out at the worst position. We never see how Yugi or Kaiba developed their skills (though there is a bit more of it in the actual manga, where the first time Yugi plays DM, he doesn't even really know the game and still comes out on top). So it's like saying that a 5 yr old has more potential when it comes to math tests, because they start out with nothing while you start by already knowing a good amount. There isn't any way to really draw a conclusion of what kind of peak Joey can reach.
A lot of people also usually say that Joey's deck is holding him back, but let's be real, neither of the Duelists really has a great deck when we go by that logic. And furthermore, the main drawback of Joey's deck, which is the luck factor, barely makes up the result. So I'd argue, better cards wouldn't change the results that much. Quite the opposite actually, because a lot of these luck based cards have quite strong effects if they work out. Which they usually do for Joey, so he is technically working with even stronger cards than his opponents.
I agree
Joey is amazing
6:51 dont forget the duel against Ziegfried where Jeoy just loses against plot-armor.......
Yeah that sucked 😭
The only reason why Jaden would beat Joey is because of his connection to the supreme King. Basically giving him a destiny draw. Same with Yusei and Jack. However, that's as far down the later I'd put him.
Yugi/Atem
Kaiba
Jaden
Yusei
Jack
Joey
Marik
Pegasus
Crow
Akiza
I suppose Joey is a fair, brave, underdog duelist. It's just that he wasn't as much expert level as Yugi/Atem and Kaiba. At least Joey was able to surpass his dueling mentor, Solomon. I kinda hated how the last time Joey ever do duel match in the season finale is his loss against Zigfried. I also didn't like how in live duels he pretty much lost in every duels he's in.
I think you're absolutely right joyous huge potential. I think you could beat Jaden easy and eventually even beat yugi and seto. He would have won if yugi haven't cheated him at Duelist Kingdom. For one time was it has to be on the same side of the field as dark m
Joey is the best! No plot armour, no cheat millennium item or special ancestry. He is inexperienced and broke. Yet, he wins some incredible duels against some of the best duellists in the world. I don’t care what anyone says, he was robbed of his victory against Marik. Kaiba was also lucky to win in his second duel with Joey. Even Yugi when they battled was lucky to have the time wizard evolve his Dark Magician. Joey is the real deal and the best there is without hacks.
Without hacks what about his luck
Kaiba should have lost too since ITDMT brings back his blue eyes at the end of the turn not couple seconds after
This leads to a question: do you think that Joey at one time he was meant to be the Main character instead of Yugi?
What are the eps you talk about in this video
Quite a lot of episodes
Bro I thought you disappeared but it turns out you were making the vid about the furry
Joey beats Jaden. Pegasus give his top 5 duelist around the GX time: 1st Yugi, 2nd Kaiba, 3rd Joey, 4th Aster, and 5th Jesse. Aster won against Jaden around that time, so it makes sense for Joey to also beat Jaden.
Fun fact: Pegasus has joey in 3rd as his top 5 duelist
Yes
Good answer lol
5:53 also the rare hunters replaced a lot of his cards with better cards
In a world championship live duel, Joey, Mai and Yugi are against Bakura and Pegasus. Joey asks beforehand, “But, ehh, won’t 3 against 2 be kinda unfair?”, to which Pegasus retorts “Of course it’s fair: you’re a terrible duellist!” 😂 My favourite evidence whenever anyone sings his praises :’)
I think it would be a good duel, but i would pick a focused Joey to beat Jaden. The most purely skilled duelist in the show however i think is Yami Bakura.
joey vs jaden depends on which version of joey u look at
is it joey by the end of yugioh duel monsters ? that can go either way
is it joey 10 years after duel monsters into gx that pegasus said joey is in his top 3 ? that joey will destroy jaden
I think people forget just how much his deck is based on luck. Sure, even without that he’s one of the best in the world, but without his luck he belongs in the same tier as Mai, not as Yugi and Kaiba. You can argue that there is an element of luck to drawing the right cards in the first place, but his deck goes way beyond that.
I always thought Joey would beat Jaden even though Jaden has a themed hero deck.
In the original manga joey was going beat marik, beat yugi, and become the king of games but the editor made him chance it so yugi can become the king of games
Joey is the blue collar worker of yugioh. He is the true definition of the sky's the limit. And yes he's I'd believe he'd beat pre-neo spacian Jaden in a tight duel but Jaden's new deck he'd probably have a hard time only because Jaden didn't need polymerization to fuse his cards or devolution to separate them giving Jaden more versatility but Joey still would have given Jaden a hard time
Jaden always says luck is part of skill
Finally, someone else agrees with me on Joey's potential!
100%
@@MultiversalStudios And if I may, allow me to quote him: "It takes skill to play the right card at the right time. But, a little luck never hurt, either."
Jaden Yuki is a superior character, but Joey is definitely the one who tried harder than anyone else to improve aside from maybe Leo
i think we need more red eyes support in the game
I know it's always dark magicion or blue-eyes support
@@MultiversalStudios i love the archetype but it been power crept so bad
It's important to note a few things from the manga, since manga is canon and the anime likes shitting on Joey for comic relief:
- Joey and Yugi don't duel in Duelist Kingdom and Yugi gives Joey the price money, because he went undefeated in all official duels.
- Joey and Kaiba don't duel in Battle City for 3rd place. The fact that Joey (actually) won against Marik and that Kaiba was unsure if a deck with Slifer and Obelisk would be enough to beat Marik speaks volumes.
- Yugi himself says after the duel with Marik, that Battle City isn't over yet, because Joey should have been his final opponent. He takes out the god cards and goes on to duel Joey. The fact that Joey has Red Eyes back in his deck in DSOD implies he won. Pretty sure Kazuki Takahashi himself confirmed this, making Joey the only one except for Yugi himself to defeat Atem in the canon manga.
- Kazuki Takahashi said that Yugi and Kaiba are weak compared to Joey, because Joey has neither the money to buy an OP deck nor magical powers.
All in all I'd say the series ends with Yugi and Joey being stronger than Atem and Kaiba simply by feats and statements.
Jaden and Joey are my 2 favorite characters so I m not gonna even discuss that
But who would win though??? 😏
Short answer : yes
Jonouichi is the best "normal" trainer in Yu-Gi-Oh, hands down.