I have the original ROG Claymore, and I absolutely love having the removable num pad. Unfortunately everything else about it ranges from average to bad. I've had chemo treatments that were more bearable than using ROG software.
@@jGRite Believe it out not, much worse. It frequently just stops working, and the only fix is to re-install. But when you uninstall, it doesn't clean up after itself and leaves little bits of the program all over the system. You have to seek out and manually delete the little bits of software, .dll files and even delete registry keys to make sure the re-install works.
@@BuzzKiller23 To flash RGB designs to the components memory the device has to be up to date and to update the device it requires a system reboot. Armoury Crate is pc cancer. My mouse and keyboard are from asus and only my mouse has OpenRGB support so I flashed designs to the keyboard that i can just switch between them without ever having to use that bloated mess of a software.
I’ve tried a demo unit at a store and the longer keys were actually buttery smooth with little to no rattle, so happy to say I think the factory lubing job is good Edit: it’s the rx version of the reds that I’ve tried
I love that the switches have basically no wobble, but man...this keyboard sounds awful. Its so hollow and echoy. Usually, I don't care much about how a keyboard sounds, but this one is just bad.
gamer board moment. they may want to reinvent the wheel all they want with the switches this, led screen that. macro here, gimmicks there. but if they still dont adress the hollow thin plastic/aluminum construction and the cheap stabs, they wont ever improve
The way the switches are designed makes it easier for them to rub and become scratchy. It's not the most pleasant feeling. You don't have to be a keyboard enthusiast to notice it, either.
i have a claymore ii, it's pingy af. doesn' help either that all the keys are resting on a slap of aluminum. everything else is great but the clang-clang-clang instead of a thock thock thock is just bleh.
@@thespicyswede9302 just spent $300 on a group buy lmao, but I agree that the r/mk supremacists are annoying af and shouldn't be gate keeping like that
@@gamingmarcus I'd wager you'd find a lot of overlap between the two communities haha Both are great hobbies,but a few elitists ruin it by acting all high and mighty unjustifiably
WHY do gamers who spend a lot of time and money on getting their computers to be silent, then turn around and buy keyboards that sound like someone shaking a plastic box full of Legos?
I dislike clicky too, but for some keyboard sounds are fun, while loud windy air sounds aren't. Can't be hard to understand even if you hate loud keyboards imo. I personally find fan-noise more annoying as well.
Only gaming hardware enthusiasts obsess over silent towers lol. Most of us will be wearing ear/headphones and just want the best bang for the buck hardware.
Imagine paying $100's on a custom mechanical keyboard for great key switches only to realize your keyboard has no dedicated media keys or volume scroll wheel lol. When the keyboard scientists figure out a way to do both, then sign me up. (no having to press fun + another f key just to have makeshift garbage media controls does not count)
Coming from customs, the case definitely isn't doing the sound any favors. However the design for the optical switches is kinda awesome! It's always good to see companies trying to innovate on designs
What makes those switches special (i.e. stability) is what will probably kill any chance they have of succeeding past one generation imo. If just one breaks you'll have to go straight back to ASUS. I actually don't mind it, but many people hated Logitech and Omron's Romer-G for this same reason, despite the benefits.
@@dinobot_maximize you do know that you can custom a keyboard for less than the ones on this videos without weighing a ton. These products are meant for people who just wants to use a keyboard or don't have any time to custom so I don't really want to shame them.
@@dinobot_maximize so thats stupid but buying such mainstream crap that costs most of the time way over 200 bucks and performs not thats much better than a cheap 50 bucks budget beginner kit...GG u got it mate...
i mean i dont want add fuel to the fire but i have to say im on the fence about custom mk community some times they brag about their brass keyboards and are toxic sometimes. But they give good advice on how to improve your prebuilt.
P sure this is just a product spotlight for the switches. There's no conclusion/recommendation, little focus on the rest of the keyboadd, and they didn't even receive the production quality lubed versions, so it wouldn't make any sense to review them lol.
"Review unit provided free of charge by ASUS / ROG. As per Hardware Canucks guidelines, no review direction was received from manufacturer." I feel like this whole statement is total bs.
ngl I am really close to unsubbing from HC and pretty much every major "tech reviewer" if they all keep prioritizing money and business relationships instead of actual honest and decent content
These sound decent until you actually hear a clickbar switch. The clicks are thick and not sharp and overall just miles better than any standard click jacket switch. Typing this on my 160$ custom build with box jades for alphas, navies for modifiers, and box pinks for num row
Man these sound horrible. Granted I am a custom keyboard enthusiast, but I figured if they came out with a completely new design they may get closer to what the custom market has to offer. I must say I am disappointed with Asus overall recently. The prices of their Z690 motherboards are completely insane. I am starting to feel bad for JJ. He is getting all the flack for the executives decisions.
Yeah, I spent the whole video waiting for some good thocks and it just never happened. Just save some money and do collabs with preexisting hardware Asus.
Man, spending the last few days researching and getting ready to build my first custom keyboard has got me noticing things on mainstream keyboards that I would not have batted an eye at before lol. There's no going back.
For real dude, it's a rabbit hole. It is worth it though, the quality of sound and feel on a good custom keyboard can't be beat, and heck you may spend less than gamer branded overpriced plastic keyboards.
I’m not a fan of mechanical keys. They’re loud, they fatigue my hands faster, and don’t deliver any “performance” benefits. Worst purchase I ever made. (Haha okay no it wasn’t but definitely regretted it shortly after buying it)
holy crap the Blue switches are loud. Not good at all for nighttime. EDIT: all the switches for the Claymore are way too loud... I guess I'll check out Roccat.
Hoping they'll sound a lot better on the final lubed production version. They're pretty much the only Centered LED clicky option on the market, optical too.
People are so spoiled from customs or the effect of customs going into the mainstream-- these are fine for prebuilts/mass produced and aren't for those who prefer DIY or boutiques.
Leave it to ASUS. I can't wait for the revision for the optical switches and stabilizers and that removable number pad is an AWESOME design. Thank you for the great video, Dimitri. Keep up the great reviews
To be honest: Absolutely not. It depends though, Corsairs keyboards were horrible with the wobbly keys. Low profile keyboards can be wobbly too, but as long as you aren't shaking it around like an idiot you wouldn't really notice it. Custom keyboard fans like to make it look more important than it is as an excuse to pay extra and against gaming keyboards, as they tend to cheap out on stabilization.
custom keyboard fan exists: we hate gaming keyboards. also a enthusiast where are my 150 dollar pbt keycaps that arrive in 100 years average Pre build keyboard enjoyer: stabs bad? time to mode those and call it a day
I love my custom boards. Hate it when a keeb is incompatible with everything else. Huntsman is a good example of a custom switch with compatible keycaps.
@@basshead. Quality ABS keycaps from GMK are a million times better than the cheap standard APS caps you get on a typical gaming keyboard. They even have a texture like PBT caps have.
@@basshead. ikr they complain about everything in the top comments and be like: you should have build a custom. they cant stop bragging with they kbd, keycult, whatever the brand is. communities like these shouldn't watch those videos if they keep bragging and don't have any to say about the keyboard so the brand can improve or something.
Yes you definitely need to discuss custom keyboards when doing these reviews. No it doesn't have to be anything crazy, but a simple one you can put together in like an hour and for less money would sound and feel a lot better than this nonsense. Those stabs rattled my brain 🤮
@@nikolakostic5667 That's the thing, bluetooth sucks, you want 2.4 wifi dongle. Bluetooth just doesn't cut it it's too laggy for keyboards on Windows. It's ok on MacOS.
@@BrawndoQC I mean i game just fine with Bluetooth controllers. Maybe you're thinking of older generations of Bluetooth. I haven't had any noticeable lag with 5.0 or higher.even so, if I'm playing competitive shooters and I have a BT keyboard, I'll just plug the damn thing in. But I'm sure there are also cheap 2.4ghz adapters that can plug into a USB port on both the keyboard and the PC.. For the hardcore competitive gamer, who for some reason still needs the keyboard to not have a wire while gaming.. Lol
Maybe I'm too used to my custom keyboard, and the keyboards hipyotrech/glarses cover, but those keyboards sound and probably feel like 50 dollar Amazon special keyboards. Hell a stock dell keyboard sounds better...
Only thing I hate about ROG keyboards that don't have standard switches are the keycaps with the ugly gamer font; you can't change them with simple and kinimal keycaps
Gonna be expensive af again tho. Had to wait for the first Claymore to come down in price to buy it. Especially with the numpad and the numpad volume scroll was dogshit. I love the Claymore because you can put the numpad on the left so I can have more space for the mouse. And I use numpads alot.
RX is trash... iahve the RX red and 2 of my switches broke... they do feel nice and less wobbly compared with mx black (was what i had before lel) but they arent as strong... asus needs to make a square design or something to add resistance, because those small 4 pins... not gonna last... specially if you slide your keyboard by your keys (was what eventually broke mine)
I have the ROG Scope II 96 as well as the Flare II Animate and its interesting to find Asus jumping into the custom board bandwagon with hot swappable switches.
I can't. Waiting for that affordable heavy factory lubed keyboard. I want a manufacturer to put on all the lube they have, add 10$ to the final cost and sell it to me.
NX RED and NX BLUE sounds and looks like shady chinese shenzen copy - minus the quality - minus the due royality - minus innovation NX not MX🤣.. just like saying Danada, VSA, Kapan, Lorea, and Dhina
These boards sounds horrible, I never understood gaming keyboards. Sounds hollow with lots of wiggle on the stem. For the price you're better of picking up something like an RK84 or a GK61, lubing the stock switches and getting keycaps you like. Way better performance and value than this.
the brown nx switches sounded best to me but they don't compare the sound of the mem-chan ones I have in my devastator 3 keyboard, my mouse is just dying on me now after 3 yrs since they skimped on that in cooler master D3 bundle but this laser etched keyboard has the most subtle yet satisfying sounding keys and it depends how lightly you press them they can be loud if you type fast and hard but if you go slow and delicate they sound really stealth and feel like I can glide my fingers along the kb and type pretty fast when I want while remaining pretty quiet with the keystrokes too, until rog get to that level i'll focus on buying their other products and stay my hand on buying a new keyboard for now... my new mouse however will be the Pugio II you should review the Pugio 2 it's impressive and comes with the japanese omron switches!
build a custom keyboard with lubricated silent switches if you want something really quiet and not the marketing of keyboards with silent switches that aren't actually that quiet
These mainstream brands needs to stop being millennials, always trying to be different. All these efforts from Asus and Razer and still dogshit at the end
Hi.. I lost one of keycaps... is there is any replacement? if no can I remove ROG RX RED and replace it by anything else... contact asus said no replace parts... please I love this keyboard but really that make big issue for me...
tbh those keyboards sound like crap. Pretty much like all the normal mechanical keyboards. Why can't they learn from the enthusiast custom keyboard community? Those keyboards only cost 700+ bucks because of the limited production runs.
I just bought the Claymore II on sale (-80€) I was wondering if the switches were switchable, my first research seem to indicate that it's not possible.
But can I open the switches and lube them? Looks like they would feel scratchy... P.s. Man, I watch too many custom keyboard builds, I wish I was excited for these mass market ones... especially since I like more thocc and this just sounds pingy, hollow and hate the layout lol
I'm not a gamer but I like the IBM keyboards from decades past. Which switch(es) are the closest comparison? Thanks for taking the time to help me find what I have been missing.
The IBM Model M keyboard is a legend for a reason. Check out the Unicomp Model M and the Perixx Periboard for a modern day homage with a similar look and feel. In terms of modern switches, nothing feels quite the same as the IBM’s buckling-spring switches, but Kalih Box Navy and Jade switches are probably the closest modern options to the mark.
Oh thank you I've seen so many YT reviews about it but you nailed the key functionality! I think I'm gonna buy Blue version because of the nic cliky sound.
While the idea of this optical switch is alright, proprietary stems never work. Stick to OG optical switch keyboards with hotswap capabilities for better value, kids.
i hadd this keyboard with reds, it is one of the best keys if not best to use and feel, but the software sucks, why the hell we cant control the brightness with the custom mode???? the blue led got burnt in 6 months and had to rma this, same problem was with romer g linear...i guess leds will eventually burn out but not this soon....also the point of using these custom keys sorta make you stuck on the factory keys forever....
I'm more surprised at how bad they sound lol. Its so pingy, hollow, the stabs are rattly af and the topping-out sound is trash. Plus the keycap font is very angular and looks terrible imo
why is there no brown optical switch variant and only red and blue ? this is the only reason im not investing in an optical keyboard(i really like the responsiveness and zero debounce delay but linear switches is a big turn off as well as the loud clicky sound of the blues).I mean same as razer they only have linear optical and then they go straight to clicky optical with no brown middleground.
nothing beats a custom mechanical keyboard. This sounds like trash and those "stabs" are wobbly af. These big companies can't make keyboards sound and feel great.
Would love if at the end of these videos you give us another run down of all the typing sounds one after the other to more easily pick up on the differences.
While I really like the innovations made to increase the stability and LED placement of the switches, I really wish they’d apply similar effort toward developing a less archaic design for stabilizers themselves. It’s so annoying that we have to go through a bunch of modifications in order to make stabilizer keys sound alright, and even then it’s really difficult to get them to sound good consistently. I’d be really interested in trying out these switches and it’s good to hear that the switches and stabs will come lubricated, but I’d also like to know whether there is any sound dampening foam used inside the board to help make it sound less hollow. Doesn’t seem like it? Though it didn’t sound too bad anyway.
can your lighting be saved offline? i ask becaus efed up that my razer pukes rainbows when in sleep mode or offline mode and its ridiculas not to have a offline mode as razer charges such high prices. great keyboards though.
Mine lasted for 2 years and 3 days. The warranty expired after two years. Switches can't be replaced, so the only thing you can do is throw it in the trash can!
Gateron black inks > every rog switch. These switches doesn't change anything, they are the same sh*t than the logitech romer gs'. Oh and that legs will break
cant believe someone would want a switch that is clicky... when its optical like that click is all for a show like if you take that little piece of copper out it would feel 1000x better than with the copper piece at least it will be lubed from the factory so maybe it will be better.
I have the original ROG Claymore, and I absolutely love having the removable num pad. Unfortunately everything else about it ranges from average to bad. I've had chemo treatments that were more bearable than using ROG software.
Damn, sorry to hear.
Is the ROG software worst than Corsair's? My only issue with Corsair is crashing from stress.
@@jGRite Believe it out not, much worse. It frequently just stops working, and the only fix is to re-install. But when you uninstall, it doesn't clean up after itself and leaves little bits of the program all over the system. You have to seek out and manually delete the little bits of software, .dll files and even delete registry keys to make sure the re-install works.
@@braydennturner thanks. It's all in the past now, I just really hate Asus software.
@@BuzzKiller23 To flash RGB designs to the components memory the device has to be up to date and to update the device it requires a system reboot.
Armoury Crate is pc cancer.
My mouse and keyboard are from asus and only my mouse has OpenRGB support so I flashed designs to the keyboard that i can just switch between them without ever having to use that bloated mess of a software.
Imagine going through all this effort and still having a dogshite sounding space bar 😔
NO THICC THOKS DETECTED 🙄
It’s going to be too expensive to tune everything on the keyboard to near perfection. What they have done so far is already praiseworthy.
Imagine if instead of using the normal size keyswitch + stabilizer for wider keys, they just used an extra wide switch. That would be interesting.
I’ve tried a demo unit at a store and the longer keys were actually buttery smooth with little to no rattle, so happy to say I think the factory lubing job is good
Edit: it’s the rx version of the reds that I’ve tried
Cut your ears pls
I love that the switches have basically no wobble, but man...this keyboard sounds awful. Its so hollow and echoy. Usually, I don't care much about how a keyboard sounds, but this one is just bad.
For the price that they will charge they might as well put some foam in there....
And the model still looks like it was designed in early 2010s
gamer board moment. they may want to reinvent the wheel all they want with the switches this, led screen that. macro here, gimmicks there. but if they still dont adress the hollow thin plastic/aluminum construction and the cheap stabs, they wont ever improve
The way the switches are designed makes it easier for them to rub and become scratchy. It's not the most pleasant feeling. You don't have to be a keyboard enthusiast to notice it, either.
For the first time I'm sad to admit the browns sounded the best 🤪
Though, coming from a custom keeb the stabs and key ping sounded horrible! 😭
i have a claymore ii, it's pingy af. doesn' help either that all the keys are resting on a slap of aluminum. everything else is great but the clang-clang-clang instead of a thock thock thock is just bleh.
@@3XZDgg probably have to foam and tape mod it on top of modding the stabs somehow
@@3XZDgg I think the case itself is beyond saving acoustically
The "ping"makes wwII shooters more immersive when your M1 Garand needs to reload.
@@benbaer3525 hah good one
So the Rx switches are basically optical versions of omron/logitechs romer g switches. Odd
Which is shit because the stem legs is gonna break off easily. Good luck finding another keycap that fits the 4 pronged outlet!
@@trankhackinh6134 I agree. Mine had chatter then legs broke off due to me trying to repair the chatter. Threw the board.
but Romer G is tactile, no?
@@mrniusi11 yes it is. They are similar to brown
@@trankhackinh6134 so RX red and RX blue would not be like browns at all.
linear vs clicky vs tactile.
Inb4 r/mechanicalkeyboards comes here
eRgoNoMIc iS BeST whY nO LuBE BrO WtF spEnDiNG $300+ oN KeYBoaRdS iS FinE
@@thespicyswede9302 lmao ikr
@@thespicyswede9302 just spent $300 on a group buy lmao, but I agree that the r/mk supremacists are annoying af and shouldn't be gate keeping like that
@@thespicyswede9302 Never thought I'd see a community more toxic and elitist than audiophiles. Good lord so much snakeoil.
@@gamingmarcus I'd wager you'd find a lot of overlap between the two communities haha
Both are great hobbies,but a few elitists ruin it by acting all high and mighty unjustifiably
WHY do gamers who spend a lot of time and money on getting their computers to be silent, then turn around and buy keyboards that sound like someone shaking a plastic box full of Legos?
I dislike clicky too, but for some keyboard sounds are fun, while loud windy air sounds aren't. Can't be hard to understand even if you hate loud keyboards imo.
I personally find fan-noise more annoying as well.
Only gaming hardware enthusiasts obsess over silent towers lol. Most of us will be wearing ear/headphones and just want the best bang for the buck hardware.
Imagine paying $100's on a custom mechanical keyboard for great key switches only to realize your keyboard has no dedicated media keys or volume scroll wheel lol. When the keyboard scientists figure out a way to do both, then sign me up. (no having to press fun + another f key just to have makeshift garbage media controls does not count)
There are a few customs with knobs, and media buttons aren't worth the trade off for the hot garbage sound of these bestbuy keyboards
Coming from customs, the case definitely isn't doing the sound any favors. However the design for the optical switches is kinda awesome! It's always good to see companies trying to innovate on designs
What makes those switches special (i.e. stability) is what will probably kill any chance they have of succeeding past one generation imo. If just one breaks you'll have to go straight back to ASUS. I actually don't mind it, but many people hated Logitech and Omron's Romer-G for this same reason, despite the benefits.
They should provide extra switches in case some break.
typical mainstream keyboard sound and asthetic. "laughts in custom keebs"
customs that cost and weigh as much as a block of metal. its stupid
@@dinobot_maximize you do know that you can custom a keyboard for less than the ones on this videos without weighing a ton. These products are meant for people who just wants to use a keyboard or don't have any time to custom so I don't really want to shame them.
@@dinobot_maximize so thats stupid but buying such mainstream crap that costs most of the time way over 200 bucks and performs not thats much better than a cheap 50 bucks budget beginner kit...GG u got it mate...
i mean i dont want add fuel to the fire but i have to say im on the fence about custom mk community some times they brag about their brass keyboards and are toxic sometimes. But they give good advice on how to improve your prebuilt.
@@dinobot_maximize Then just buy cheaper parts. It's simple.
"These New ROG Switches Change EVERYTHING!" like literally changes everything and buy like a normal mech keyboard
Based
No, they don't really change everything
they have to clickbait because asus gave them the moneys
Of course. It's just another marketing garbo. HardwareCanucks will advertise everything as long as they pay :)
these feel like an ad more than a review lol
P sure this is just a product spotlight for the switches.
There's no conclusion/recommendation, little focus on the rest of the keyboadd, and they didn't even receive the production quality lubed versions, so it wouldn't make any sense to review them lol.
"Review unit provided free of charge by ASUS / ROG. As per Hardware Canucks guidelines, no review direction was received from manufacturer." I feel like this whole statement is total bs.
i have come to absolutely despise those type of paid promotion "reviews"
ngl I am really close to unsubbing from HC and pretty much every major "tech reviewer" if they all keep prioritizing money and business relationships instead of actual honest and decent content
time for r/mechanicalkeyboards opinion
Just gonna be that it's dogshit because they can't put custom doubleshot pbt keycaps that come in 50 years and sounds bad. Lol
The RX Blues might be the only clicky switches that sound good to me. The click isnt too sharp and the pitch of the click sound is nice.
Have you checked out the Kailh clickbar switches? They have a distinct click and are maybe the only clickies I actually like
Kailh white? Kailh Navy Blue?
They sound hideous IMO. Kailh Box Navies with SA keycaps are the real deal.
These sound decent until you actually hear a clickbar switch. The clicks are thick and not sharp and overall just miles better than any standard click jacket switch. Typing this on my 160$ custom build with box jades for alphas, navies for modifiers, and box pinks for num row
Try Kaihl crystal box pinks. Smoother than Blues and slightly lighter in sound, and not as loud.
Doesn't seem too impressive to me, but I'll wait for Chyros's review
Man these sound horrible. Granted I am a custom keyboard enthusiast, but I figured if they came out with a completely new design they may get closer to what the custom market has to offer. I must say I am disappointed with Asus overall recently. The prices of their Z690 motherboards are completely insane. I am starting to feel bad for JJ. He is getting all the flack for the executives decisions.
Yeah, I spent the whole video waiting for some good thocks and it just never happened. Just save some money and do collabs with preexisting hardware Asus.
You know you've worked too long in networking when you click on a video notification thinking ROG Switch is a brand new high speed _Ethernet_ switch.
Well, they make routers so I guess it's not a bad guess lol
Their RTAC-86U routers are okay, I guess.
I still need those gpu's you said you will mail me in the next months.
cap.
@@mining_steve lol he deleted that part
Imagine those pins broken off...
Looking at you romer-g switches
Man, spending the last few days researching and getting ready to build my first custom keyboard has got me noticing things on mainstream keyboards that I would not have batted an eye at before lol. There's no going back.
For real dude, it's a rabbit hole. It is worth it though, the quality of sound and feel on a good custom keyboard can't be beat, and heck you may spend less than gamer branded overpriced plastic keyboards.
let me guess the softwares rubbish though
another proprietary romer g crap
I like that you cover these kinds of topics.a small delve or comparison to more custom products could be interesting.
I’m not a fan of mechanical keys. They’re loud, they fatigue my hands faster, and don’t deliver any “performance” benefits. Worst purchase I ever made. (Haha okay no it wasn’t but definitely regretted it shortly after buying it)
What do you use instead
sound like a $30 keyboard
The best part about the video was the amazing lighting setup you’ve got going on. The keyboard is aight, ROG folks need to collab with r/mk for sure.
holy crap the Blue switches are loud. Not good at all for nighttime. EDIT: all the switches for the Claymore are way too loud... I guess I'll check out Roccat.
Yet again for that price of just under $300 it doesn't even come close to a custom mech. Not worth the price.
Hoping they'll sound a lot better on the final lubed production version. They're pretty much the only Centered LED clicky option on the market, optical too.
Where can I get those PBT keycaps for Claymore 2? Is it out already?
People are so spoiled from customs or the effect of customs going into the mainstream-- these are fine for prebuilts/mass produced and aren't for those who prefer DIY or boutiques.
Leave it to ASUS. I can't wait for the revision for the optical switches and stabilizers and that removable number pad is an AWESOME design. Thank you for the great video, Dimitri. Keep up the great reviews
is keycap wobble really that big of a deal?
For the typing experience: No.
When you think about how much you paid of it: Yes.
To be honest: Absolutely not. It depends though, Corsairs keyboards were horrible with the wobbly keys. Low profile keyboards can be wobbly too, but as long as you aren't shaking it around like an idiot you wouldn't really notice it.
Custom keyboard fans like to make it look more important than it is as an excuse to pay extra and against gaming keyboards, as they tend to cheap out on stabilization.
@@richarde98 i built a custom keeb or two and haven't really seen anyone complain about it in the hobby
@@CaieJay I meant the gaming keyboards are (mostly) not well stabilized. I saw a ton of people complaining about gaming keyboards because of that.
When gaming, it feels nice to not have your WASD keys wiggling under your fingers. It just feels more precise.
custom keyboard fan exists: we hate gaming keyboards. also a enthusiast where are my 150 dollar pbt keycaps that arrive in 100 years
average Pre build keyboard enjoyer: stabs bad? time to mode those and call it a day
I love my custom boards. Hate it when a keeb is incompatible with everything else. Huntsman is a good example of a custom switch with compatible keycaps.
Yup, it's a very toxic community. They even pay that much for ABS keycaps lol.
That makes no sense
@@basshead. Quality ABS keycaps from GMK are a million times better than the cheap standard APS caps you get on a typical gaming keyboard. They even have a texture like PBT caps have.
@@basshead. ikr they complain about everything in the top comments and be like: you should have build a custom. they cant stop bragging with they kbd, keycult, whatever the brand is. communities like these shouldn't watch those videos if they keep bragging and don't have any to say about the keyboard so the brand can improve or something.
Yes you definitely need to discuss custom keyboards when doing these reviews. No it doesn't have to be anything crazy, but a simple one you can put together in like an hour and for less money would sound and feel a lot better than this nonsense. Those stabs rattled my brain 🤮
Yeah, like custom keyboards are availble in optical and 2.4 wifi .. they all are expensive af, wired and bluetooth on 2 years waitlists.
@@BrawndoQC was that sarcastic? Kbd67 lite, qk65, gk64x, keychron, I can list several more budget custom brands that have Bluetooth
@@nikolakostic5667 That's the thing, bluetooth sucks, you want 2.4 wifi dongle. Bluetooth just doesn't cut it it's too laggy for keyboards on Windows. It's ok on MacOS.
@@BrawndoQC I mean i game just fine with Bluetooth controllers. Maybe you're thinking of older generations of Bluetooth. I haven't had any noticeable lag with 5.0 or higher.even so, if I'm playing competitive shooters and I have a BT keyboard, I'll just plug the damn thing in. But I'm sure there are also cheap 2.4ghz adapters that can plug into a USB port on both the keyboard and the PC.. For the hardcore competitive gamer, who for some reason still needs the keyboard to not have a wire while gaming.. Lol
Asus ROG keycaps is totally scrap. Using this switch will prevent you swap better keycaps
Just print your own stem adapters if you don't care about the centered LED
just Asus finding reasons to charge more for their abysmal boards
Interesting. I don't know how well the Gundam stuff did for them, but the Claymore with a Gundam theme would peak my interest.
The sound of these keys are absolutely horrible.
Maybe I'm too used to my custom keyboard, and the keyboards hipyotrech/glarses cover, but those keyboards sound and probably feel like 50 dollar Amazon special keyboards. Hell a stock dell keyboard sounds better...
Ikr my cheap 20bucks modded keyboard sounds better than this
Keycaps are ugly af. That's a deal breaker.
Only thing I hate about ROG keyboards that don't have standard switches are the keycaps with the ugly gamer font; you can't change them with simple and kinimal keycaps
keyboards - more complicated than they need to be
"These New ROG Switches Change EVERYTHING!"
r/mechanicalkeyboards: "Doubt."
Still way too loud.
With an optical mechanism there should be nothing to make a noise at all.
Bottoming out and clicky switches bruh.
5:41 5:57 6:30
We need a low profile version of the claymore 2 wireless.
Gonna be expensive af again tho. Had to wait for the first Claymore to come down in price to buy it. Especially with the numpad and the numpad volume scroll was dogshit.
I love the Claymore because you can put the numpad on the left so I can have more space for the mouse. And I use numpads alot.
Those switches sound dusty
No thanks to the rog tax.
It's sounds like 15$ keyboard. No way this can be better then regular mech keyboard.
When's the Razer Kraken V3 hypersense Review coming?
RX is trash... iahve the RX red and 2 of my switches broke... they do feel nice and less wobbly compared with mx black (was what i had before lel) but they arent as strong... asus needs to make a square design or something to add resistance, because those small 4 pins... not gonna last... specially if you slide your keyboard by your keys (was what eventually broke mine)
Unfortunately, they ain't changin' anything. Pass. Good review, but not good hardware
When I see those tiny pins that need to hold the keycap on, I'm instantly getting PTSD to the Romer-G switches and their stupidly fragile keycaps...
OMG that rattle
Flashbacks to Logitech Romer G switches failing/keycaps snapping off
I have the ROG Scope II 96 as well as the Flare II Animate and its interesting to find Asus jumping into the custom board bandwagon with hot swappable switches.
The switches look similar to G910? Years old
I can't. Waiting for that affordable heavy factory lubed keyboard. I want a manufacturer to put on all the lube they have, add 10$ to the final cost and sell it to me.
They don’t change the game. What about JWK? Durock? Zealios? Tealios?
NX RED and NX BLUE sounds and looks like shady chinese shenzen copy - minus the quality - minus the due royality - minus innovation NX not MX🤣.. just like saying Danada, VSA, Kapan, Lorea, and Dhina
The ROG RX red and the NX brown both sounded equally amazing to my ears...🤩🤩
soooo just enlarged laptop keyboard? Scissor mechanism since years ago on laptops?
These boards sounds horrible, I never understood gaming keyboards. Sounds hollow with lots of wiggle on the stem. For the price you're better of picking up something like an RK84 or a GK61, lubing the stock switches and getting keycaps you like. Way better performance and value than this.
the brown nx switches sounded best to me but they don't compare the sound of the mem-chan ones I have in my devastator 3 keyboard, my mouse is just dying on me now after 3 yrs since they skimped on that in cooler master D3 bundle but this laser etched keyboard has the most subtle yet satisfying sounding keys and it depends how lightly you press them they can be loud if you type fast and hard but if you go slow and delicate they sound really stealth and feel like I can glide my fingers along the kb and type pretty fast when I want while remaining pretty quiet with the keystrokes too, until rog get to that level i'll focus on buying their other products and stay my hand on buying a new keyboard for now... my new mouse however will be the Pugio II you should review the Pugio 2 it's impressive and comes with the japanese omron switches!
To loud !!! I want a quiet keyboard, any recommendation ??
Topre Realforce 104UBS Silent Variable
build a custom keyboard with lubricated silent switches if you want something really quiet and not the marketing of keyboards with silent switches that aren't actually that quiet
ROG Blue switches are not available on any keyboard right now, so what's the point?
These mainstream brands needs to stop being millennials, always trying to be different. All these efforts from Asus and Razer and still dogshit at the end
Hi.. I lost one of keycaps... is there is any replacement? if no can I remove ROG RX RED and replace it by anything else... contact asus said no replace parts...
please I love this keyboard but really that make big issue for me...
tbh those keyboards sound like crap. Pretty much like all the normal mechanical keyboards. Why can't they learn from the enthusiast custom keyboard community? Those keyboards only cost 700+ bucks because of the limited production runs.
I just bought the Claymore II on sale (-80€)
I was wondering if the switches were switchable, my first research seem to indicate that it's not possible.
But can I open the switches and lube them? Looks like they would feel scratchy...
P.s. Man, I watch too many custom keyboard builds, I wish I was excited for these mass market ones... especially since I like more thocc and this just sounds pingy, hollow and hate the layout lol
I'm not a gamer but I like the IBM keyboards from decades past. Which switch(es) are the closest comparison? Thanks for taking the time to help me find what I have been missing.
The IBM Model M keyboard is a legend for a reason. Check out the Unicomp Model M and the Perixx Periboard for a modern day homage with a similar look and feel.
In terms of modern switches, nothing feels quite the same as the IBM’s buckling-spring switches, but Kalih Box Navy and Jade switches are probably the closest modern options to the mark.
We have ROMER G all over again, they never learn ... compatibility is king in mech keyboard :) We all want to use custom keycaps, stabs and cables.
Oh thank you I've seen so many YT reviews about it but you nailed the key functionality! I think I'm gonna buy Blue version because of the nic cliky sound.
Always brown equivalents. Fucking blues are gimmicks keys that annoying more than sooth (nobody gets use to constant high-pitched noises).
While the idea of this optical switch is alright, proprietary stems never work.
Stick to OG optical switch keyboards with hotswap capabilities for better value, kids.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with stability issues on any cherry mx style switch at all. The stabilisers also sound fucking awful.
i hadd this keyboard with reds, it is one of the best keys if not best to use and feel, but the software sucks, why the hell we cant control the brightness with the custom mode???? the blue led got burnt in 6 months and had to rma this, same problem was with romer g linear...i guess leds will eventually burn out but not this soon....also the point of using these custom keys sorta make you stuck on the factory keys forever....
I'm more surprised at how bad they sound lol. Its so pingy, hollow, the stabs are rattly af and the topping-out sound is trash. Plus the keycap font is very angular and looks terrible imo
why is there no brown optical switch variant and only red and blue ? this is the only reason im not investing in an optical keyboard(i really like the responsiveness and zero debounce delay but linear switches is a big turn off as well as the loud clicky sound of the blues).I mean same as razer they only have linear optical and then they go straight to clicky optical with no brown middleground.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, butI don’t think caps lock keys usually have stabilizers
nothing beats a custom mechanical keyboard. This sounds like trash and those "stabs" are wobbly af. These big companies can't make keyboards sound and feel great.
Sorry, nothing beats razer analog switches, seriously.
id just like to try the switches on my custom keyboard, just want ot buy the switches xD
Would love if at the end of these videos you give us another run down of all the typing sounds one after the other to more easily pick up on the differences.
Too loud :( LOVE THE FOCUS PREVENTING WOBBLY KEYS. (WORST PART OF RAZER HUNTSMAN)
While I really like the innovations made to increase the stability and LED placement of the switches, I really wish they’d apply similar effort toward developing a less archaic design for stabilizers themselves. It’s so annoying that we have to go through a bunch of modifications in order to make stabilizer keys sound alright, and even then it’s really difficult to get them to sound good consistently. I’d be really interested in trying out these switches and it’s good to hear that the switches and stabs will come lubricated, but I’d also like to know whether there is any sound dampening foam used inside the board to help make it sound less hollow. Doesn’t seem like it? Though it didn’t sound too bad anyway.
Would love to drop these into my Sofle v2!
can your lighting be saved offline? i ask becaus efed up that my razer pukes rainbows when in sleep mode or offline mode and its ridiculas not to have a offline mode as razer charges such high prices. great keyboards though.
not sure how the optical switches are anything unique
non mx stem, wow so unique but not helpful at all
stabilized keys, razer's done it
Mine lasted for 2 years and 3 days. The warranty expired after two years. Switches can't be replaced, so the only thing you can do is throw it in the trash can!
They change everything? I don't wanna wake up tomorrow and realize I'm driving a Chinese car and am married to some other woman...
The clickies sounds awful... The red ones sound thoncky
annoyingly loud as the razor :/ My wife hates razors lineup
Gateron black inks > every rog switch. These switches doesn't change anything, they are the same sh*t than the logitech romer gs'. Oh and that legs will break
So another Romer-G switches? Goodluck getting replacement keycaps.
cant believe someone would want a switch that is clicky... when its optical like that click is all for a show like if you take that little piece of copper out it would feel 1000x better than with the copper piece at least it will be lubed from the factory so maybe it will be better.