ROG RX Optical Gaming Keyboards: Best EVER or Epic FAIL?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- #Keybored ROG RX Optical Gaming Keyboards: Best EVER or Epic FAIL?!
This video is sponsored by ASUS ROG Republic of Gamers!
So... I always thought that using a gaming keyboard will make me a pro gamer... I realized that it doesn't work that way. Then what is the point of these uber gaming keyboards? What do they do that other keyboards do not? Well... I guess we're about to find out! ASUS Republic of Gamers provided their latest RX Optical keyboards to see what the hype is about!
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That panic button is really a button that shows they know their target audience. Dont know how to feel about it
Hahahaha it was the most ridiculous thing I've seen on a keyboard. But I need to macro that button now for my customs
@@Keybored send if you make since that to funny to not have
10 year olds
qmk sleep macro
Grats on 100k :) The videos just keep getting better and better
Almost there! I think by end of day today hopefully :) thanks for dropping by!
I wonder if any of these gaming companies have actually taken notes from the custom keyboards scene, such as standard bottom row, better stabs, etc
I think gaming and customs will come to a point soon... seems like everything is blending together now
Razer tried.... cannot really say they succeeded.
glorious tried, they made a subpar product and accessories because they just wanted to say "we sell those too"
My sister's friend gonna give her brother a 200 usd e-waste aka alienware mechanical keyboard for christmas gift. I said there are other keyboards with better value but since she worked in Dell, she said she will get easier access to RMA thingy and probably will get staff discount as well. Welp 🤷♂️
@@echohotelsix lmao a keyboard with RMA, they know something's going to break and have to return it
Those stabs are actually not bad stock, pretty surprising from such a basic design. All in all, I think these keyboards a bit expensive, but not necessarily criminally overpriced. I can see why people would be interested in these, but with the lack of customization offered from the custom switch design, meaning no switch swap or other keycaps, this is isn't a keyboard I'm interested in.
Very good point here. I wish it'll take standard mx stems! From what I gathered, you're paying for "gamer" features it seems
I think this board is a bit pricey, although what I did take from this is that, optical switches might be better for Rhythm games. Overall, pretty good review video especially with the numbers part. Glad to see your voice is better now as well!
Thank you so much! You do get a bit of speed and it seems like consistency with these switches... I don't game enough where it provides me something earth shattering :)
if you want a keyboard specifically for rhythm games, get the wooting keyboard with hall effect switches. it's good enough that it became controversial in the osu! community.
@@your_average_cultured_dude can you give me a tldr? Haven’t been invested in osu since the pp rework
@@chunkymilk1288 The keyboards main game breaking feature is that after a key has been actuated, the key instantly resets as the key travels upwards again, allowing a user to actuate the key again while the key is still travel upwards. The controversy is that the keyboard allowed people to instantly stream 300bpm when they couldnt before. Imo i see the keyboard as something that draws out a players true potential and removes the variable of delay.
@@snoopertrooper4468 that sounds fair as long as everyone has access to it. I used double stage springs for the quicker upstroke, I guess this is just a better version of that lol
I say this all the time in my Mech community: I'm a programmer, not a pro-gamer
Probably the most honest review of ‘gaming keyboards’ I’ve watched in a long time😅👍🏾
Well, you should try our keyboard. It literally is better for gaming and made for gaming without marketing fluff.... and you can customize it 👀
*Boss BGM starts playing in the background*
how cool to see you guys here. nice!
A game-changing difference is that fast wireless connections are very rare with custom keyboards but are much more commonly found in gaming keyboards. Having a slow connection to the keyboard is very noticeable.
9:40 I would buy this key for alone for 50 bucks
hahaha, the key is gold! I was like what the heck is this lol...
i think a "game over tipping point" will be when Wooting release a wireless version of their Wooting 2 HE or the Wooting 60 HE, hall effect switches and wireless = game over. built for genuinely improving performance and not built for xmas lights competition!
I think the Wooting 60HE would be a better representation of the Gaming Keyboard market at its best.
You dirty bois, ur getting it wrong.... The stealth button is to hide your game at 3am when you're not supposed to be gaming
Hahaha you know... For those late night studying sessions
"Custom mechs are optimized for typing, gaming keyboards are optimized for gaming" is such a ludicrous statement. Also, 270 for a gaming keyboard seems pretty wild too.
I really hope custom keyboard designers start encorporating more basic features like 1000hz refresh rate. It’s kinda annoying to have a 600dollar board that has 125hz and minor delays. Yeah it is barely noticeable but it’s such an easy fix idk why no one bothers
So close to 100k hope you get that silver playbutton.
The wooting switches with their dynamic actuation point, which means anywhere on the length of the travel of the switch, any shift between upwards or downwards motion turns the switch on and off, so you can never miss an actuation point, it reads your intent from all movements of your finger, not just the ones where you manage to cross an arbitrary threshold. No mechanical switch can ever do such a thing without being massively overengineered. Corsair or whoever going for gaming performance should just clone that wooting feature with optical, rather than trying to lower the pretravel distance of less mechanically/optically sensitive switches.
The way to improve on what Wooting achieved for gaming, is switch design changes or lubrication to make the movement as smooth as possible, maybe eventually something crazy like magnetic dynamic or multi-stage resistance (like PS5 triggers have) to make things like virtual dynamic tactile bumps, maybe n clicky button at the bottom of the switch for extra commands (hold to drive/run, click down further to toggle boost or sprint), and better keycap profiles and layouts suited to gaming. Wooting use a generic 60% layout, and there's no way that's optimal for games, especially with the caps lock key there which I've never once seen a game use, nor the windows key in favor of longer CTRL+ALT.
the wooting 60 he is the best for gaming rn and it sounds good stock
Great video as always.. 👍 and also you're so close... 99.7K... 100K today 🔥🔥
I hope so! 100K Here we come!
As well I want to see a pro gamer play a game using ASUS keyboard versus keybored built custom keyboard and see which one the programmer prefers
:) I gotta figure out how to make the "stealth" key on all my boards
The Sound so so so so bad
Haha I wonder if I should mod it
Can we get a Review on the Wooting 60he
In fighting games where inputs on a specific key frame in a combo matter in order to properly animation cancel an attack or skill, lightning fast debounce like these switches "could" help out those people that play on keyboard specifically.
Perhaps in the future we could see high-end fighting stick manufacturers incorporate optical switches like these in their line up too.
I'M LOOKING AT YOU QANBA, RAZER
Its nice to remove any source of lag, but I dont think this would make much of a difference. Cherry MX switches are rated for 5ms debounce time, so a well optimized keyboard doesnt got much delay at all.
And even a good PC setup with a very fast monitor usually has 20ms of visual input lag or more, so you never get perfect reaction times either.
@@termitreter6545 Big mistake here. Not only is bounce a source of latency, so is the polling rate, scan rate, good code on the mcu, etc. This all adds up to most keyboards not being 'ultra' suitable for a lot of competitive games. Razer and Wooting make good pcbs but they need that Moondrop dash treatment.
@@kmah324 I dont see how that has anything to do with what I wrote? Were talking if the debounce rate is a big problem.
If your polling/scan rate is terrible, then it will make problems with long debounce less relevant if anything.
@@termitreter6545 well, no. A 5 ms bounce time is something you'd probably want to avoid in the first place and what I'm saying is having the other issues on top of that makes the overall situation worse. You can even make an easy to understand situation where you want a lower debounce time than 5 ms in music rythem games or in fighting games with tight execution windows (taunt jet upper with Bryan in Tekken 7 is one such real world example). If x action takes y number of frames of leeway, you want the input latency and it's S.D to be much smaller than the window of time allowed (eg much smaller than y) for the highest chance of success of executing the desired event. Saying that because the scanrate is poor therefore debounce is less of an issue is flawed because you still want to aim for the lowest input latency possible, not increase it for no reason.
@@kmah324 Sure, its always best to have the lowest input lag possible, and its add up. Im not competitive, but im somewhat sensitive to lag too.
Im just saying this one is a very small difference, and I dont think it will help in the way OP described it.
Especially since some fighting games in the past had big issues with input lag for some reason. IIRC Street Fighter 4 had something like 100ms of lag on PS4, and SF5 still has a lot of delayed frames.
Which seems strange for competitive games tbh.
Was about to ask why the dust 2 csgo map was in the background.
Also this is ironic because they just replaced the dust 2 csgo map (almost the same day this video dropped). Rip!
Well, most of the games I play are racing games, and keyboards are the last thing you want to play a racing game with, even if it's analog capable, a wheel is the way to go
Honestly, there are so many great custom keyboards that can be great gaming keyboards. Gaming keyboards are just so bad. I'm a HUGE gamer, and now that I'm into customs, I can't enjoy gaming with those cheap, plasticky, rattlely, rgb filled, keyboards. I started off with those, but now that I'm fully immersed into the custom keyboards, I refuse to go back. For $130, which is the cost of this gaming keyboard, you can build or even buy a really solid budget keyboard. Hell, add another $20 or so and you can get excellent keychron, QK65, ZOOM65, a novelkeys keyboard, and so many others that you can you have. That wiill be better quality, better feel, better sound, and just better look. And the gaming specific functions that some of these gaming keyboards may be worth it to some, but for most it won't even matter.
The next challenge is try to make one sound nice and like a hollow plastic box.
I have a Strix Flare with cherry MX red switches--pretty smooth. I can switch out most of the caps with my no longer working 'Deck Legend', which has higher quality double shot keycaps, if the strix caps begin to fade. I was able to put the cool skull and crossbones Deck 'esc' cap on to the Strix. Not sure I would buy a keyboard with switches that will not accept regular Cherry MX switches.
I thought I was limited in options with my Gateron Optical Blacks....these optical switches would really limit what you can do with them if you wanted to tinker...at least with mine I can swap them with other Gateron Opticals (there's like 5 of them in total?) or even get creative and create my own Frankenswitches (which I'm definitely thinking about)
If I were super focused on gaming performance, I think the Wooting would be the clear choice in that area. Just a lot more you can do with their "analog" switches.
i wanna see a custom with gaming keyboard preformance but jokes on me they do nothing! (except for mb the hiding tabs feature) oh wait hi dad im not doing anything
Honestly if you're willing to put a bit of efforts into building your keyboard, for the prince point of "gaming keyboards" you can get yourself a really nice custom with amazing specs. This is like the difference between a prebuilt PC and something you assemble yourself.
Plus these keebs sound absolutely terrible. As someone's who's used to tuning for feel and sound, this is honestly unforgiveable at that price.
these big companies have boomers designing this shit I swear, they're all stuck in like 2015 with how they design their GAMER keyboards and wont move forward. thank god we have companies like wooting making actual innovations like the lekker switch because the big ones are hopeless
"Gaming" keyboards nowadays should've use Hall effect instead of optical. because if it's just about optical then Keychron also have them.
what ive never ever understood is what is with RGB in the gaming arena? surely products that give you an advantage should be the top sellers, but its not, its gaming gear thats laden with 10 year old xmas lights, why????? you dont see F1 teams cover their cars in RGB to ge faster laps! in drag cars, weight is an issue, so headlights are binned! lighter means a little faster. gaming gear needs to embrace professional philosophy on gaming improvement and stop making our gaming setups look like a toddlers nursery. 7 year old love overwhelming distracting RGB, but then again, they aint adult pro gamers that game for money either! its time the industry grew out of puberty.
I have the claymore 2 with blue switches, and i dont play anything... not even minesweper i use it to work... and i really love it...
i use to have the logitech mx keys, te logitech mx ergo, and the logitech mx mechanical....that are all really good keyboards...
but i prefer the typing experiende on the claymore 2...
logitech and asus has really good keyboards... and the software on both of them are pretty good... the logitech software is more easy to use...
but the asus software alows you to change the functionality of every key... something that you can do in the logitech software only in some keys...
so...
overall the logitech mx keys is mi second prefered keyboard... but i prefer the claymore 2 because the typing is much better...
by the way i try tu use the numpad on the left side but simply cant do it... im so acostumed to the "normal" layout that my brain simply cant find the correct keys...
so maybe for productivity the claymore is not the best keyboard because is expensive and anyway you will use it in the standard layout...
100K BABY WHOOOO ily keybored congrats, I have been watching since 50k, loved the part at 1:07
This was a great (and funny) video, and I appreciate that you actually considered what this keyboard could do that custom mechs can't.
But I have to say, I hate that sound profile SO MUCH. That sound kept me away from mechanical keyboards for like 10 years - I thought they all sounded like that, all the time. Thank God that's not true.
from what i know is , a good gaming gear actually only tops out a potential gamer's limit , if you are a noob player , you will stay noob even you have the best gear from my experience ( i used to be a top tier dota player but freaking noob with FPS games lol)
It hurts my eyeballs. It's like there was a concerted effort to make every possible design choice as distasteful as humanly possible.
asus must be paying well with all these sponsorships on all the keyboard channels
ROG: 270 USD
Zoom65 + keycaps and switches = about 230 usd
0:48 *FAKE!* _"... and then I lost my girl...."_ Uh-huh, there's the tell right there. 😅😅😅
You should research 60HE from Wooting
"Oh nooo! This keyboard has cancer!" 💀💀💀 That caught me off guard.
At this point, everyone agrees that the word "gaming..." is just marketing crap
I think there are a lot better board on the market like the deathadder and the wooting
I can’t with the sound. I’m spoiled now thanks to the keyboard community 😂
I love watching keyboard videos whit my mx blue.
Hahaha
>Wireless
>Gaming
>Recommends it over the other two
Oh boy
i was not expecting a reference to Pittsburgh from Keybored but steel city represent!
wow so pro, so gaming, so cool, makes me wanna trade my custom keyboard hehe
:) Thanks for stopping by!
I mean hey, that panic button won't zip your pants up, but it's halfway there at least 😂
I hope someday gaming keyboards could thock...
if someone can tell the difference between 10ms and 15ms, they're full of sheet
tbh for the high end version you'd be better off going for moondrop dash for prebuilts
thanks A-SUS for making an emergency SUS key for my SUS needs.
OOHHH nooo this keyboard has cancer! LMAO that was too good
Hey, could you review some of the Daskeyboard line primarily the 5q and the professional and x50q I have the latter and it was my first mech and i recently bought and modded a razer and was curious how an enthusiast would review these keyboards and how you in particular would mod them….especially the x50q lol bc I would love to mod it 😅
Especially bc that model has a similar switch keycap Mount
That grey cable that you use in all your videos, what is it please?
I know this keeb isn't about sound, but my ears went to the ER.
southpaw is nice but you cant mirror the layout sadge
Hi keybored almost at 100k Subs! good job keep it up. Love your keyboard k videos. I was wondering if you wanted to review a budget keyboard. Its called the CIY gas67! Also, what are your favorite switches now.
8:30 best part of the video LOL
You baited me hard with that stealth key line, you sir are a master baiter.
I think this is good keyboard, but price is high abit 😢
"Let me let you in on a little secret" - use headphones 🎧 !!
Great video. Thank you for the testing.
8:32 LOL
Lol that's what I thought
If there is a delay of 1/4 second between keypress and response, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with your setup!
I really love your videos
You are so smart
and handsome 💖💖
"Oh noooo this keyboard has cancer" got me good lol
Oh no this keyboard got cancer 😭😭😭
Thank you for looking at gaming keyboard.
Unlubed sounds like applause
8:26 - 8:34 I was not prepared for this!!! LOL! 🤣
Not interested in the keyboard, but dang your perspective made me at least watch the whole vid!
sounds plasticky and hollow but I've heard worse, especially the stabs. Still a good job Asus. I wonder how it sounds when modded.
Try doing the Finalkey V65
ofc logically speaking the monitor, pc, mouse, keyboard, chair all aim towards a better comfortable style of playing games and faster reaction within those tech. gaming is specifically made for gamers to actually notice that difference that has gamed for awhile and can actually tell the difference in response time, resolution, fps and etc. Idk what I’m saying tbh 💀
For me, it is all about the software/firmware. If boards in this category had QMK as an option, I would consider them. I do not see that happening.
With keyboards like the qk75 and zoom tkl in the same price range as this, i don't really see any way to justify buying one of these rog boards. The only explanation i can come up with is that people arent aware of the better options. Even if u want a prebuilt theres much better, cheaper options
Congratulations for the 100K
should figure out how to make this sound better
"OH NO, THIS KEYBOARD HAS CANCER" My favorite line of the video
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!
"Oh no!! This keyboard has cancer"
Is this the rise of more gaming vs customs content? 👁👄👁 view farming would be insane
Interesting switch stuff but… meh.
I WAS HIS HUNDREDTH SUBSCRIBER LETS GO
i appreciate you willing to do all that math
oh my god. i just realised why all my switches double tap. it's because my board has too low of a debounce delay! Thanks a lot
99.9K! when i wake up i bet u will be at 100k
uncle scotty playing csgo in 2022
Thanks for your entertaining videos Scott. Hope you're feeling better.
"oh nooo this keyboard has cancer"
I don't care how my PC performs. I care how I perform.
FPS is meaningless versus KDR. The only thing that matters to me when it comes to the keyboard is the switches/caps and thy done goofed. I stopped the video at @10:28.
ASUS ROG...PLZ GTFO
PS: Windows has macros.
Congrats on 100k Scott! Your vids are very helpful in modding my boards.
Should have downloaded more Ram
Us yinzers feel targeted n’at.
Please sir will you be my dad please bro
a keyboard made out of the silver play button would be a great 100k special