Yeah I think that this is the best keyboard I've seen from one of the traditional gaming companies, but oof that is a price tag when I could get something nicer in the more boutique scene for less
Same. It doesn't help that i am currently using a $60 mechanical keyboard that feels great. Does this seem better with more features and higher quality? Sure. And i might have been willing to pay twice as much because it looks like it could cost twice to make as well. BUT the price isn't twice as much is more than 4 times as much. At that point it just feels not worth it when i already have a decent experience with what i am using.
Yeah that's exactly what I thought of. My X6 is still in a box in the garage. I'll clean it up and use it again one day, maybe when one of the kids has their own PC :) I remember the volume knob was always a bit weird on that keyboard.
I know someone already said this but imma put my spin on it:- I love shortcircuit, it has a nice premise of unboxing and first impression. It really makes me feel as if i were to buy the product what would i do. Cool concept.
Thanks! Regardless if it's sponsored or not, we try to keep it as consistent as possible, granted there are times where we want to go left field to try new things.
Yooo, as a dev that also regularly takes education notes by typing, I would love to move my numpad to the left. My right hand will finally get a break. Edit: Here are some of the alternatives to this keyboard from the comments in this thread: - Separate numpad - Left handed keyboards (aka southpaw) - gk96s (a left handed keyboard, no detachable numpad) - Mountain Everest Max Keyboard (has a detachable numpad)
Just get a 10 keyless and a separate numpad. A decent USB numpad is like $20, although most of them break pretty easily so you might be buying a new one every year or so.
@@jayleno2192 I definitely considered it, it can work for many. I wanted not only a mechanical switch numpad, but also one that can keep moving with my keyboard (so that when I move around, I don't have to move it). Plus, because I have a full sized keyboard atm, having 2 numpads would look dumb and be a waste of space imo. This keyboard solves all this, *with a steep price tag*, but a keyboard that checks all the boxes is such a good investment.
@@rawhide_kobayashi Yes, that is the other alternative I've looked into. I never found anything that looks good esthetically, has RGB and has built-in media controls. Also most of them have a weird layout on the keys above the arrows or just straight up move them to the left with the numpad. Do you have any keyboards that come to mind that don't have those drawbacks?
If I had the money for this, this is nearly the exact keyboard I have been looking for. Wireless, mechanical, detatchable numberpad, minimal exterior footprint, lit up reprogrammable keys, and a lighting feature for ease of use at night. Definitely on my list of things to get this year.
@@frozenskeptic345 Dude, you cannot just drop that subreddit in a comments section without a little warning first. Something like: WARNING: Mechanical keyboards will take away your money, spare time and family. Try a cheaper hobby, like crystal meth.
@@JordanIdk Despite that being the case, to have a complete and modular keyboard with all the added features... It's expensive, but it isn't *that* bad. Especially for an ASUS peripheral.
@Quentin a much slower board? Are you high? What does that even mean? Also if you want RGB look up pudding keycaps with the K61, it puts this to shame in the RGB department. They're many boards with wireless, it's not a unique feature. Comparing this Asus gamer crap to custom keyboards with top tier switches is ridiculous. I'd take an Anne Pro 2 over this. If you're going to be a jerk at least be an educated one.
I love how this Jordan guy basically implies that those Enthusiasts Keyboards are better than these things lmao. Almost every person I know that builds keyboards act the same as well when they see Prebuilts especially ones that are made for gaming. Pretty surprised that you haven't said anything about when James said he prefers clicky switches. Don't you people hate those?
@@ASUSUSA Is there any way to get replacement original switches. I really like the keyboard, and I'm considering buying it, but what if a switch stops working?
_“And they're sponsoring the video,_ _which is how you know I'll not let any negative points linger in the video without mopping them up,_ _and why I'll say nothing about the insane price tag.”_
@@RemyDMarquis My first proper "gaming" styled mouse and keyboard were Sidewinders actually, the mouse and the X4 board (which I still have as a cold-store reserve/spare) They....just don't make them like that anymore.
The detachability of the numpad (and possibility to attach it on either side) is exactly the reason why I bought the first Asus Claymore almost a year ago. Been happy with it so far. Really enjoying the metal plate and durability of the mx reds
This.. this is perfect, everything I ever want in my keyboard is here, wow, kudo to you Asus! - except the look, wish they translate the subtle G14 design language to this a bit more. Numpad to the left is the best possible keyboard layout imo, it offers all the advantages of fullsize and TKL with none of its drawback.
0:51 This is what I want companies to do. Just include a C to C cable with everything so you force other companies to put more C ports on computers/laptops, so we can abandon USB-A
@@kage_6 I've had it since December and have really enjoyed it. I don't really use their software much (or any peripheral software for that matter) so I can't really say anything other than "It works". The keyboard itself is pretty awesome though. Solid build, hot-swappable switches, detachable num pad. I will say the wrist rest was too thin for me. I reverted back to my Glorious rest for typing. I also don't really use the media dock as much as I thought I would. Which is a bummer because it seemed like such a cool attachment. I just keep it on for aesthetics and occasionally skipping songs in YT music.
Id love that with either "normal" cherry switches or even an barebones one that you can solder whatever you want into, Box Royals on the numpad, and silent reds on the keyboard.
The whole Sidewinder line up was great and it is really a shame MS stopped producing Keyboards. I still use my X4 which is still in great shape even tho it was abused with spilled water and coffee over the years. Just the W and S keys have chipped a bit.
My X6 is still my emergency backup. I love the simple Hold (run) button. The only Reason it is my Backup, is that the Volume knob regularly pinns the Volume to max.
Well, I suppose it does have everything I would want out of a keyboard. Volume wheel. Macro Keys. Wrist rest. Numpad. RGB on each keys. Not much of a fan of the LED light bleed on the sides of the keys, though. Looks like it'd be an eyesore late at night with the room light OFF. But at least you can reduce the brightness easily. So that's a plus.
Look for Wireless Mechanical Numpads. They cost around $30. They could be what you're looking for. If you don't want the hassle of having to constantly charge them, just get a Qi charger attachment for phones and attach it on your numpad along with a Qi charging pad so that when you're not using it, you can just place the numpad on the charging pad.
They didn't Microsoft tried this with their gaming keyboards. It was an insanely good keyboard but everybody snuffed at the idea of a detachable numpad you could move to either side. And they stopped making them. This is basically a copy and a rehash of the Sidewinder X6
The ASUS ROG Claymore series isn't exactly new. The original Claymore already had the ability to detach the numpad and allow the user to install it to both left and right side of the main keyboard.
Bro but this isn’t a 1.73048% with Indigo box switches lubed with Krytox 82749g20 how can this be the future of mech boards… edit: they changed the title from something like 'this is the future of mechanical keyboards', so my comment makes no sense now :(
i enjoy my custom boards but i love that the consumer gamer themed ones are getting really good. my two boards are getting older now but work 100000000000% as amazing as the day they were built
I've owned one for several years. It's been working great until recently, now that the warranty is out it of course started to have problems with keys having problems randomly. Took it apart to find it had a swollen battery. As I don't use it wirelessly anymore, I just removed the battery and it works great now. If you are like me looking for a solution, the screws are between the keys. You can see them easily.
I'm sorry, but for $270 it should have PBT keycaps and not ABS ones. Both the Corsair K100 ($230) and the Razer Huntsman V2 ($250) are cheaper, even if by a tiny bit, and both have PBT keycaps. And they're both optical, with the Razer having analog functionality on top.
I still have Microsoft's Sidewinder X6. I've used that 10 years ago before mech keyboards were a thing. That was the first keyboard I know that switches numpad location.
Mechanical keyboard have been a thing for a looong time. Cherry's patent for the current MX style is almost 30 years at this point. But I know what you mean; they weren't really a thing in the gaming space for a long time.
Someone else in the comments mentioned the everest max keyboard which offers the same feature and a bunch more in a similar price range it seems. No clue on the quality though, just figured I'd mention it to you.
@@creesch there is a discord for the keyboard and if the members who have gotten theirs have anything to say it's all positive about both build quality and usage, there have also been a lot of coverage on youtube from people interested and RandomFrankP has been covering it since it was in it's prototype stage with HardwareCanucks making a great video on it. now we just need to get ShortCircuit to get one and unbox it then have them compare different keyboards that are similar like the Sidewinder X6, ROG Claymore II, Mad catz strike 7 and off course the mentioned Everest
The best option for you rn imo is GK96S. Southpaw and works great. Besides that just get a GK61/64/68 and a numpad with that. Cheaper than all this trash and actually reliable for once.
As a wooting owner, yes opticals are great. Love the quality of life features this adds, though. Curios about their differences in gaming features as I imagine ROG can be more successful in pushing devs for compatibility.
For what they charge for this keyboard, it should be perfect. The use of non-standard keycaps is a potential issue, preventing replacement of the keycaps with off the shelf keycaps.
as a left handed person who uses the numpad for 'WASD' I would love something like this. But not as much as I'd like to see more gaming mice that can be adapted to left hand use. Not to mention be nice if game developers would add more options to allow for rebinding of numpad etc to in their games. You'd be amazed how many do not let you rebind they keys I use. Rebinding every damn game you own because you're not right handed constantly sucks and is made worse when you cannot bind the keys you actually want to use.
Would have bought it tomorrow if it WASN'T optical AND they wouldn't be using their own stem. I could have overlooked the lack of hot swappable switches if this was the case. All my artisan keycaps would be useless. :-(
Take a look at the Mountain Everest Max when you get the chance. I would say the ease of use is over all better and build quality might be on par but that software side of it lets it down (not wireless either and has cherry reds). It was a kick starter and only recently came out of it from my knowledge, i could be completely wrong.
I'd like to point-out just how much Armoury Crate sucks. If I want to change my mouse DPI (or even fix my profile because the DPI switch doesn't toggle half the time), I'll need to update my mouse to even look at (let alone, change) the settings. After it downloads the update files (for my mouse) onto every storage drive in the system, I then have to restart my PC just to finish applying the update! I just want to change my DPI or RGB...
A copy pastry fo the Montain Everest pro Max without the the stream deck keys and neither the little screen screen. Plus the montain Everest keyboard has the keycaps and the switches removable.
3:10 I like how you're able to tell how fast a linear optical switch actuates by feel, without ever having the keyboard connected. Magical! Nice unboxing otherwise, though. Movable keypad is a step up, and contactless switches definitely are too. I'm only left wondering if actuation point could be changed or not, or even if it had analog capabilities, but I assume there's not.
Can I Use the Number Pad wirelessly? Can i use 2 Numpads simultaneously as more Macro space? Will Asus Maybe offer a whole macro pad Just for the Side or maybe a slim one with 4-5 Keys in a Row? I See lots of Potential here.
I'm gonna reply to this comment so that I'll get notified if we get an answer. My decision pretty much hinges on whether the numpad works when disconnected from the keyboard.
Same for me! i want to use it like a buttonbox on my simracing rig and volume control and put it back on keyboard when I’m playing other thing. This would be awesome 😁!
@@vincentlamarche5218 Someone answered this question for me in another thread. The answer is no, the numpad isn't separately powered, sadly. That said, my solution was to buy a cheaper TKL keyboard I like and a wireless Bluetooth numpad separately for like thirty bucks USD.
I have been using an opto-mechanical keyboard for 2 years now, the omen sequencer. It also was one of the first ones with a volume wheel. Still going strong
Holy crap, I have never considered how useful it would be to have the numpad on the left...When I'm inputting data, or setting parameters on my video editing software I always have to take my hand off the mouse in order to use the numpad cos I don't like using the top row numbers. I need this to be standard guys.
Just get a wireless mechanical numpad. They cost $30. You could also make your numpad wirelessly rechargable by taking advantage of a Qi charger so you wont have to worry about your numpad's battery life. I use a customized RK84 in tandem with a wireless mechanical numpad and it works great. If I don't need the numpad, I just put it on the charging pad and it juices up so it never runs out.
Ive got the Claymore 1, and its absolutely amazing. I love it. The removable key pad is awesome. Just recently though the "i" key will randomly double press. A little annoying when im using it for anything other than gaming. I just emailed Asus about it yesterday so we will see what happens. Its about a year old.
"this is stiff" sure, I see the thing twisting like a noodle with my bare eyes, this thing is not stiff, it's a cheap piece of crap, just like the first claymore. The numpad didn't connect half the time and the software is comically bad. Videos about a product, sponsored by the manufacturer of said product can't be trusted, simple as that.
I think this pandemic has taught people the importance of multiple streams of income unfortunately having a job doesn’t mean security rather having different investments is the real deal
I totally agree with you, it’s been an eye opening experience for a lot of people.l ventured into crypto market during the pandemic and it have been the best decision i ever made.
Tell ASUS to make something unique/useful ... like an ergonomic wireless keyboard, been using a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Desktop 7000 for 14 years, and some variant of the same design since 1995. No way am i going back to carpel tunnel keyboard land.
I’d like to see this numb pad idea used for laptops. I don’t like numb pads on laptops - I hate having my hands off centre from the screen when typing - but I like having a numb pad while working. Adding a numb pad to the side of a laptop when needed would be great for me ergonomically.
I own the original Claymore and love it, was super interested when you guys showed it at CES one year, 2years later they released it and ive been using it since, some of the improvements look good, the old system of attaching the numpad is a little hit or miss sometimes so this looks like a good improvement.
Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamCLAYMORE the bond attachment was specifically redesigned to be superior in every way from the ease of connection to durability.
There’s a few companies that do the whole left numpad/detachable. Epokmaker makes a left sided numpad kb and Mountain makes a kb with a detachable numpad with little lcd macro screens you could put images on it
Debounce doesn't have to do with upstroke, btw. It also doesn't have anything to do with hysteresis. Debounce is to do with metal contact leaves on traditional mechanical switches. Because they're thin metal, when they come into contact, they vibrate and produce lots of micro-bounces that could be read as multiple keypresses, even if you only actuated once. Debouncing is a delay programmed into a keyboard where it won't read any additional actuations for a very short while, based on an estimate of how much time it takes for the contacts to stop vibrating or bouncing against each other. This way, the keyboard will only read one input from each keypress. Keyboard manufacturers try to minimize this delay to as close as possible to when exactly the bounce stops, to avoid any performance detriment. But usage over time can cause slight changes to the contact leaf behavior, so the tighter the debounce delay is, the sooner it may happen that your keyboard gets the dreaded double inputs. Basically, optical switches have no metal contacts, so no bounce, so no debounce delay period between keystrokes.
$269.99??? Didnt we just bash logitech like 1,5 years ago for being money hungry a$$holes for charging $250 dollars for their wireless keyboard? What happened to premium keyboards being around the $150 mark? Suddenly Ducky keyboards look cheap. When I got into premium PC gaming peripherals like 2015 or so, a Corsair K70, which was one of the best, was priced at $120, and that was enthusiast money for keyboards. The industry and pricing goes in the wrong direction. Smh
This is definitely a keyboard I need on my life, the detachable num pad, the soft optical switches, the macros. All of those features I use and care about having. If only honey could find me a 90% discount cupon code XD
Left numpad is also better in general, allows for more ergonomic usage of the mouse while navigating spreadsheets or filling out other datasets. Source: been on a wireless left hand numpad for two years and haven't looked back once.
i think this is going to be my next keyboard for 1 reason only... name brand mech with left side numbpad! holy smokes! these need to be more popular for accounting/3d design!
I have a diy 65% keyboard based on the 68keys design and a custom made numpad with 2 extra keys and a rotary encoder with the same design. Both are running QMK and are completely independent of each other. I have my mouse in between the two, I think its the perfect setup. I also just ordered another 65% for work.
I've never understood why keyboard manufacturers still insist on putting macro and special keys on the right when the majority of people use their mouse with their right hand. Put it on my left so I can use my left hand for more than just typing normally so I don't have to take my hand off the mouse.
I had the older model that just broke after 3 to 4 years of constant use and now I'm misserable when the numpad is on the right. And he worst thing is that I know I have to get this. Let's hope this at least lasts for 4 years
"affordable"? how much do you expect the price to come down in 3 years? $50? even if they come down by $100, you're going to wait 3 years and not get something you want, for the sake of saving, what, 9 cents a day (if you do the math)? will you even be alive in 3 years? life's too short, seriously. i'd be just cutting down say 1 coffee a week and enjoy the keyboard today and those weekly savings would quickly make the keyboard "affordable"
"Is this a mouse?" Acting of the century
Oscar worthy performance!
I think it was a rethorical question, so he wasn't trying to act
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@@ballswalls8189 if this just another rickroll video again i'm gonna lose my shit
@@alieffauzanrizky7202 😂😂😂 is at be safe and don’t click it
"you can hit a switch 50 million times in a matter of months"
bruh you know better than this.
He didn't say how many months.
One year has 31.5 million seconds. So yeah...
About 9 months at 4 clicks per second 12 hours a day.
Rookie numbers basically.
@@romaintchissambo1629 basically the poor F5 key of someone who's trying to buy graphics cards that launch every second
just play osu and stream 240bpm for 8 months
Loving new timestamps on your all of the channels!
I love grammatic bad of you!
What
@@robjobse8860 don't play the cry card, you can clearly see they made a mistake
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@@robjobse8860 damn he got burn't
"Oh hey this looks really neat!"
*Hears the price*
"Aw hell no."
Yeah I think that this is the best keyboard I've seen from one of the traditional gaming companies, but oof that is a price tag when I could get something nicer in the more boutique scene for less
Yeah, I got a southpaw 96% keyboard for cheaper than this. I recommend shopping around.
exact same reaction here.
Gotta pay that ASUS ROG tax.
Same. It doesn't help that i am currently using a $60 mechanical keyboard that feels great.
Does this seem better with more features and higher quality? Sure. And i might have been willing to pay twice as much because it looks like it could cost twice to make as well.
BUT the price isn't twice as much is more than 4 times as much. At that point it just feels not worth it when i already have a decent experience with what i am using.
I had a Microsoft Sidewinder X6 back in 2010 and it did the exact same thing. Loved that keyboard.
Keyboards like this make so much sense for CAD professionals. Not having to move your hand off the mouse to input numbers makes you so much faster.
Yeah that's exactly what I thought of. My X6 is still in a box in the garage. I'll clean it up and use it again one day, maybe when one of the kids has their own PC :) I remember the volume knob was always a bit weird on that keyboard.
@@nrg753 It was weird! I really like volume wheels on keyboards though.
I'm sure your kids would love it. 👍
Same here and still using it
The volume dials were so smooth on it, best non mechanical KB I've ever had!
It's a neat feature, but holy shitballs that gamer font on those keycaps is just… Only a mother could love them.
And I hate the propriety stems. Makes replacing them impossible.
@@TheBlackSkimmer I bet you can just buy them from Asus for 300...so no problem...sort of
@@Random_alias_JP-tl5xz Dang. That's a lot for trash-tier keycaps. The only thing worse than pad printed is painted, and that's what these are.
I bet they are ABS too. That whole keyboard screams 1337 G@M3R. On the positive side, it makes me feel better about the cash I dropped on an Apex Pro.
Reminds me of my 2017 Razer... and I think the font is hideous on that too
I know someone already said this but imma put my spin on it:-
I love shortcircuit, it has a nice premise of unboxing and first impression. It really makes me feel as if i were to buy the product what would i do. Cool concept.
Thanks! Regardless if it's sponsored or not, we try to keep it as consistent as possible, granted there are times where we want to go left field to try new things.
@@ShortCircuit :)
ngl i felt like this episode was too positive about the whole thing...
@@maxzett there's nothing much negative about it and it's a channel of unboxing not review..
@@westisinmyblood1240 the price is too high.
Also the software is pure trash.
And the build quality lacks
7:38 Love the sneeze in the background XD
doesnt sound like a background sneeze somehow tho :D
Any guesses on who that is?
OMG how the f did u know I sneezed when watching this did u hear me swear to 😂
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Honestly thought it was a part of the song...
Yooo, as a dev that also regularly takes education notes by typing, I would love to move my numpad to the left. My right hand will finally get a break.
Edit: Here are some of the alternatives to this keyboard from the comments in this thread:
- Separate numpad
- Left handed keyboards (aka southpaw)
- gk96s (a left handed keyboard, no detachable numpad)
- Mountain Everest Max Keyboard (has a detachable numpad)
Just get a 10 keyless and a separate numpad. A decent USB numpad is like $20, although most of them break pretty easily so you might be buying a new one every year or so.
@@jayleno2192 I definitely considered it, it can work for many. I wanted not only a mechanical switch numpad, but also one that can keep moving with my keyboard (so that when I move around, I don't have to move it). Plus, because I have a full sized keyboard atm, having 2 numpads would look dumb and be a waste of space imo. This keyboard solves all this, *with a steep price tag*, but a keyboard that checks all the boxes is such a good investment.
@@TheRoundedTable so... you don't care about switching around? left handed numpad keyboards are also a thing already. for a much smaller price tag.
@@rawhide_kobayashi Yes, that is the other alternative I've looked into. I never found anything that looks good esthetically, has RGB and has built-in media controls. Also most of them have a weird layout on the keys above the arrows or just straight up move them to the left with the numpad.
Do you have any keyboards that come to mind that don't have those drawbacks?
@@TheRoundedTable gk96s, it doesnt have all the media controls but you can change button layouts
If I had the money for this, this is nearly the exact keyboard I have been looking for. Wireless, mechanical, detatchable numberpad, minimal exterior footprint, lit up reprogrammable keys, and a lighting feature for ease of use at night. Definitely on my list of things to get this year.
5:44 when you create a new folder and don’t even bother to rename it
New folder, New folder (2), New folder (3)
We all have done this
I was about to add this to my cart until I saw the $270 price tag
try the everest its uh
slightly cheaper
r/mechanicalkeyboards enlighten your mind
Evga has an optical board, and right now you can get their mouse and board for $110, then get half of that back in evga bucks.
@@frozenskeptic345 already have
@@frozenskeptic345 Dude, you cannot just drop that subreddit in a comments section without a little warning first. Something like:
WARNING: Mechanical keyboards will take away your money, spare time and family. Try a cheaper hobby, like crystal meth.
Me:"oh nice..." him:" its only 269.99" me "oh no thanks!"
Actually insane, you can build your own custom KB for that price with your own choice of switch.
@@JordanIdk Despite that being the case, to have a complete and modular keyboard with all the added features... It's expensive, but it isn't *that* bad. Especially for an ASUS peripheral.
@Quentin a much slower board? Are you high? What does that even mean? Also if you want RGB look up pudding keycaps with the K61, it puts this to shame in the RGB department. They're many boards with wireless, it's not a unique feature.
Comparing this Asus gamer crap to custom keyboards with top tier switches is ridiculous. I'd take an Anne Pro 2 over this.
If you're going to be a jerk at least be an educated one.
I love how this Jordan guy basically implies that those Enthusiasts Keyboards are better than these things lmao. Almost every person I know that builds keyboards act the same as well when they see Prebuilts especially ones that are made for gaming.
Pretty surprised that you haven't said anything about when James said he prefers clicky switches. Don't you people hate those?
Just ordered this to replace my original claymore. 4 years and it’s still in mint condition. Build quality is outstanding.
Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamClaymore going to make some room on that desk.
@@ASUSUSA Is there any way to get replacement original switches. I really like the keyboard, and I'm considering buying it, but what if a switch stops working?
The chapters at the bottom are really useful. Love 'em.
_“And they're sponsoring the video,_
_which is how you know I'll not let any negative points linger in the video without mopping them up,_
_and why I'll say nothing about the insane price tag.”_
Because it's not a review..
Agreed. Seemed like a somewhat decent board before i saw the outrageous price tag. Many other boards are much better options at that price.
the detachable number pad that can go on left or right is one of the reasons I ordered an everest max keyboard
My brother had a Sidewinder X6....same feature.
but Everest is way better than this, and cheaper.
@@gamechaser002 2 of them for me actually. It's sad they didn't continue that lineup, it was amazing for its time.
Same here. I wish their software had more RGB options though.
@@RemyDMarquis My first proper "gaming" styled mouse and keyboard were Sidewinders actually, the mouse and the X4 board (which I still have as a cold-store reserve/spare) They....just don't make them like that anymore.
The detachability of the numpad (and possibility to attach it on either side) is exactly the reason why I bought the first Asus Claymore almost a year ago. Been happy with it so far. Really enjoying the metal plate and durability of the mx reds
Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamCLAYMORE
This.. this is perfect, everything I ever want in my keyboard is here, wow, kudo to you Asus! - except the look, wish they translate the subtle G14 design language to this a bit more. Numpad to the left is the best possible keyboard layout imo, it offers all the advantages of fullsize and TKL with none of its drawback.
0:51 This is what I want companies to do. Just include a C to C cable with everything so you force other companies to put more C ports on computers/laptops, so we can abandon USB-A
Love the detachable num pad that's my Mountain Everest has. Super convenient. I'm happy to see the feature catching on
How do you like the Everest? Thinking of getting it for my new pc build. Any buyers remorse?
the first Claymore from 2016 which I have has this feature, and yes. can confirm that this feature should have been the norm years ago.
@@kage_6 I've had it since December and have really enjoyed it. I don't really use their software much (or any peripheral software for that matter) so I can't really say anything other than "It works". The keyboard itself is pretty awesome though. Solid build, hot-swappable switches, detachable num pad. I will say the wrist rest was too thin for me. I reverted back to my Glorious rest for typing. I also don't really use the media dock as much as I thought I would. Which is a bummer because it seemed like such a cool attachment. I just keep it on for aesthetics and occasionally skipping songs in YT music.
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so basically a keyboard that comes with a numpad. Idk how people think it's a "new feature" or anything "revolutionary"
Id love that with either "normal" cherry switches or even an barebones one that you can solder whatever you want into, Box Royals on the numpad, and silent reds on the keyboard.
Microsoft sidewinder x6 had the same modular design, long time ago. Still have it in a box somewhere
The whole Sidewinder line up was great and it is really a shame MS stopped producing Keyboards. I still use my X4 which is still in great shape even tho it was abused with spilled water and coffee over the years. Just the W and S keys have chipped a bit.
I still have the x6 as a spare
Loved my x6 when I had it
My X6 is still my emergency backup. I love the simple Hold (run) button. The only Reason it is my Backup, is that the Volume knob regularly pinns the Volume to max.
the x6 was an amazing keyboard with good features and typing felt great. only gave it up because I built a mechanical one.
Well, I suppose it does have everything I would want out of a keyboard. Volume wheel. Macro Keys. Wrist rest. Numpad. RGB on each keys. Not much of a fan of the LED light bleed on the sides of the keys, though. Looks like it'd be an eyesore late at night with the room light OFF. But at least you can reduce the brightness easily. So that's a plus.
269.99$!
Happy to see detachable numpads catch on. I really need a numpad for my daily work, but when gaming I prefer to just have a small formfactor keyboard.
Same. I just replaced my K70 for K70 TKL and bought a cheap wireless numpad for when I'm working. Works like a charm.
Look for Wireless Mechanical Numpads. They cost around $30. They could be what you're looking for.
If you don't want the hassle of having to constantly charge them, just get a Qi charger attachment for phones and attach it on your numpad along with a Qi charging pad so that when you're not using it, you can just place the numpad on the charging pad.
They didn't Microsoft tried this with their gaming keyboards. It was an insanely good keyboard but everybody snuffed at the idea of a detachable numpad you could move to either side. And they stopped making them. This is basically a copy and a rehash of the Sidewinder X6
The ASUS ROG Claymore series isn't exactly new. The original Claymore already had the ability to detach the numpad and allow the user to install it to both left and right side of the main keyboard.
You are correct, we had a lot of people asking for an update and this has been in the pipeline for some time.
Bro but this isn’t a 1.73048% with Indigo box switches lubed with Krytox 82749g20 how can this be the future of mech boards…
edit: they changed the title from something like 'this is the future of mechanical keyboards', so my comment makes no sense now :(
i enjoy my custom boards but i love that the consumer gamer themed ones are getting really good. my two boards are getting older now but work 100000000000% as amazing as the day they were built
Hi, love these unboxing short-circuits 😀
Glad you like them!
@@ShortCircuit Freddie said love not like.... get it together lol
This is how Linus started
@@bobhanson1037 bruh
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I've owned one for several years. It's been working great until recently, now that the warranty is out it of course started to have problems with keys having problems randomly. Took it apart to find it had a swollen battery. As I don't use it wirelessly anymore, I just removed the battery and it works great now. If you are like me looking for a solution, the screws are between the keys. You can see them easily.
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Lol
covid time
269 and you get painted keycaps... incredible
Making some epic time savings there with that "qwerty" macro.
I'm sorry, but for $270 it should have PBT keycaps and not ABS ones. Both the Corsair K100 ($230) and the Razer Huntsman V2 ($250) are cheaper, even if by a tiny bit, and both have PBT keycaps. And they're both optical, with the Razer having analog functionality on top.
I'm so down for more of these modular boards
I have the Claymore 1, its really solid.
the new angled macro keys on the numpad are a neat addition.
Eek on that price though. The original Claymore + Bond was 179.
I still have Microsoft's Sidewinder X6. I've used that 10 years ago before mech keyboards were a thing. That was the first keyboard I know that switches numpad location.
Sidewinder was fucking awesome. Used mine for 5 years no less. It was perfect.
Mechanical keyboard have been a thing for a looong time. Cherry's patent for the current MX style is almost 30 years at this point. But I know what you mean; they weren't really a thing in the gaming space for a long time.
Fuck yeah Claymore has been my keyboard of choice since it's debut and I'm stoked for the new one
Thanks for being #TeamCLAYMORE
ive been talking about having a mechanical or just good keyboard with the numpad on the left or can detach for about 6 months now. so hyped for this
Someone else in the comments mentioned the everest max keyboard which offers the same feature and a bunch more in a similar price range it seems. No clue on the quality though, just figured I'd mention it to you.
@@creesch there is a discord for the keyboard and if the members who have gotten theirs have anything to say it's all positive about both build quality and usage, there have also been a lot of coverage on youtube from people interested and RandomFrankP has been covering it since it was in it's prototype stage with HardwareCanucks making a great video on it. now we just need to get ShortCircuit to get one and unbox it then have them compare different keyboards that are similar like the Sidewinder X6, ROG Claymore II, Mad catz strike 7 and off course the mentioned Everest
Me too
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The best option for you rn imo is GK96S. Southpaw and works great. Besides that just get a GK61/64/68 and a numpad with that. Cheaper than all this trash and actually reliable for once.
Awesome video guys! I rarely preorder anything, but this time, I just had to. Thanks James and everyone at LMG! Love ya guys!
As a wooting owner, yes opticals are great. Love the quality of life features this adds, though. Curios about their differences in gaming features as I imagine ROG can be more successful in pushing devs for compatibility.
For what they charge for this keyboard, it should be perfect. The use of non-standard keycaps is a potential issue, preventing replacement of the keycaps with off the shelf keycaps.
as a left handed person who uses the numpad for 'WASD' I would love something like this. But not as much as I'd like to see more gaming mice that can be adapted to left hand use.
Not to mention be nice if game developers would add more options to allow for rebinding of numpad etc to in their games. You'd be amazed how many do not let you rebind they keys I use.
Rebinding every damn game you own because you're not right handed constantly sucks and is made worse when you cannot bind the keys you actually want to use.
Using the G902 here bud.
I actually like when the numpads on the right side, helps using numpads while my other hand is using mouse
Sidewinder x6 felt more satisfying with magnets.
Would have bought it tomorrow if it WASN'T optical AND they wouldn't be using their own stem. I could have overlooked the lack of hot swappable switches if this was the case.
All my artisan keycaps would be useless. :-(
Take a look at the Mountain Everest Max when you get the chance. I would say the ease of use is over all better and build quality might be on par but that software side of it lets it down (not wireless either and has cherry reds). It was a kick starter and only recently came out of it from my knowledge, i could be completely wrong.
I'd like to point-out just how much Armoury Crate sucks. If I want to change my mouse DPI (or even fix my profile because the DPI switch doesn't toggle half the time), I'll need to update my mouse to even look at (let alone, change) the settings. After it downloads the update files (for my mouse) onto every storage drive in the system, I then have to restart my PC just to finish applying the update! I just want to change my DPI or RGB...
“The future is now old man!”
A copy pastry fo the Montain Everest pro Max without the the stream deck keys and neither the little screen screen. Plus the montain Everest keyboard has the keycaps and the switches removable.
My guy just wanted to get the review over with as fast as possible, lol
"review"
lmao just call it like it is, an ad
@@Sakkyun wow, almost like the idea behind shortcircuit is just an unboxing and first impressions
i love this channel. just the calm 1 to 1 kind of feel is really nice and it really helps sell the product
*laughing in custom keyboard*
but for real please send help
100% true
this does sound very very good for a non-custom board tbh. To be clear, it’s not as good as a custom, but it’s still good for its class.
I pray for your wallet
i can relate
Buy a shift key plz
3:10 I like how you're able to tell how fast a linear optical switch actuates by feel, without ever having the keyboard connected. Magical!
Nice unboxing otherwise, though. Movable keypad is a step up, and contactless switches definitely are too. I'm only left wondering if actuation point could be changed or not, or even if it had analog capabilities, but I assume there's not.
Can I Use the Number Pad wirelessly? Can i use 2 Numpads simultaneously as more Macro space? Will Asus Maybe offer a whole macro pad Just for the Side or maybe a slim one with 4-5 Keys in a Row? I See lots of Potential here.
These are great questions :D
I'm gonna reply to this comment so that I'll get notified if we get an answer. My decision pretty much hinges on whether the numpad works when disconnected from the keyboard.
Same for me! i want to use it like a buttonbox on my simracing rig and volume control and put it back on keyboard when I’m playing other thing. This would be awesome 😁!
@@vincentlamarche5218 Someone answered this question for me in another thread. The answer is no, the numpad isn't separately powered, sadly. That said, my solution was to buy a cheaper TKL keyboard I like and a wireless Bluetooth numpad separately for like thirty bucks USD.
I have the keyboard in fact I'm typing this on it in tkl mode but no the numpad is not wireless
I have been using an opto-mechanical keyboard for 2 years now, the omen sequencer. It also was one of the first ones with a volume wheel. Still going strong
free sneeze at 7:38 :)
love the vids
Finally a number pad removable. I really like this function.
James be BUSSIN
Respectfully
SHEEEESH
Holy crap, I have never considered how useful it would be to have the numpad on the left...When I'm inputting data, or setting parameters on my video editing software I always have to take my hand off the mouse in order to use the numpad cos I don't like using the top row numbers. I need this to be standard guys.
Daaamn I just got a 75% keyboard and thought to myself it would be nice to have a separate number pad just like this
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get a stream deck and bind numpad to a folder on it lul
Just get a wireless mechanical numpad. They cost $30. You could also make your numpad wirelessly rechargable by taking advantage of a Qi charger so you wont have to worry about your numpad's battery life.
I use a customized RK84 in tandem with a wireless mechanical numpad and it works great. If I don't need the numpad, I just put it on the charging pad and it juices up so it never runs out.
@@stringstorm dang that sounds like a good option ,thanks
FINALLY
I just bought a G915TKL and a separate numpad wishing someone would just do this. Now to make it not look obnoxious.
Ive got the Claymore 1, and its absolutely amazing. I love it. The removable key pad is awesome. Just recently though the "i" key will randomly double press. A little annoying when im using it for anything other than gaming. I just emailed Asus about it yesterday so we will see what happens. Its about a year old.
I got the claymore II and in fact I'm replying to you typing on it
As a lefty, that modular numpad is a gamechanger
Omg i wanted this for years. Now just to get my Country layout...
I love ShortCircuit but Christ this is such an ad read. It really shows in James’s energy
"this is stiff" sure, I see the thing twisting like a noodle with my bare eyes, this thing is not stiff, it's a cheap piece of crap, just like the first claymore. The numpad didn't connect half the time and the software is comically bad. Videos about a product, sponsored by the manufacturer of said product can't be trusted, simple as that.
As someone who lives in excel and in the warzone. This is a game changer.
I think this pandemic has taught people the importance of multiple streams of income unfortunately having a job doesn’t mean security rather having different investments is the real deal
I totally agree with you, it’s been an eye opening experience for a lot of people.l ventured into crypto market during the pandemic and it have been the best decision i ever made.
I don't think anybody should be left out when going for digital assets
Making the right decision when investing can be a tough task
@@elizabethanna9474 Yes! I used to trade some stocks but I couldn't understand how it works kept on getting bad stocks.
Investing in crypto is really profitable, been making good progress
More affordable and customizable option:
RK84 + wireless numpad. Shouldn't cost more than $110.
I want more keyboard like this! With modules to add touchpad or other macros (maybe a cheaper option without wireless too)!
the Claymore 1 had an attachable numpad too
You are correct, kudos!
Tell ASUS to make something unique/useful ... like an ergonomic wireless keyboard, been using a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Desktop 7000 for 14 years, and some variant of the same design since 1995. No way am i going back to carpel tunnel keyboard land.
"This is stiff build quality"
Keyboard: *Creaks and bends*
*Laughs in Ducky Shine 7*
I'm ALMOST bummed out that I just ordered a Mountain Everest Max... ALMOST.
I’d like to see this numb pad idea used for laptops. I don’t like numb pads on laptops - I hate having my hands off centre from the screen when typing - but I like having a numb pad while working. Adding a numb pad to the side of a laptop when needed would be great for me ergonomically.
I absolutely love this concept and have been waiting for it for years to have a num and macro pad to the left
THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED, A DETACHABLE KEYPAD!!!
I am currently using a Bloody B945 myself which is indeed an optical switch and a left handed numpad to boot
Thing I needed to know about:
Ease of disassembly for cleaning and maintenance or switch replacement.
I own the original Claymore and love it, was super interested when you guys showed it at CES one year, 2years later they released it and ive been using it since, some of the improvements look good, the old system of attaching the numpad is a little hit or miss sometimes so this looks like a good improvement.
Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamCLAYMORE the bond attachment was specifically redesigned to be superior in every way from the ease of connection to durability.
Got one from my brother, first Claymore. It's so nice!
There’s a few companies that do the whole left numpad/detachable. Epokmaker makes a left sided numpad kb and Mountain makes a kb with a detachable numpad with little lcd macro screens you could put images on it
im poor and bought a cheapo numpad from amazon to put on the left side of my keyboard haha
Debounce doesn't have to do with upstroke, btw. It also doesn't have anything to do with hysteresis. Debounce is to do with metal contact leaves on traditional mechanical switches. Because they're thin metal, when they come into contact, they vibrate and produce lots of micro-bounces that could be read as multiple keypresses, even if you only actuated once. Debouncing is a delay programmed into a keyboard where it won't read any additional actuations for a very short while, based on an estimate of how much time it takes for the contacts to stop vibrating or bouncing against each other. This way, the keyboard will only read one input from each keypress. Keyboard manufacturers try to minimize this delay to as close as possible to when exactly the bounce stops, to avoid any performance detriment. But usage over time can cause slight changes to the contact leaf behavior, so the tighter the debounce delay is, the sooner it may happen that your keyboard gets the dreaded double inputs. Basically, optical switches have no metal contacts, so no bounce, so no debounce delay period between keystrokes.
$269.99??? Didnt we just bash logitech like 1,5 years ago for being money hungry a$$holes for charging $250 dollars for their wireless keyboard? What happened to premium keyboards being around the $150 mark? Suddenly Ducky keyboards look cheap. When I got into premium PC gaming peripherals like 2015 or so, a Corsair K70, which was one of the best, was priced at $120, and that was enthusiast money for keyboards. The industry and pricing goes in the wrong direction. Smh
This is definitely a keyboard I need on my life, the detachable num pad, the soft optical switches, the macros. All of those features I use and care about having. If only honey could find me a 90% discount cupon code XD
mood
I was thinking about this kind of concept yesterday, nice to see in real life
Been using their Strix Scope Rx for a couple months now. Great wired option that is a lot cheaper but with their same great switches.
100% it is a great keyboard, thanks for being #TeamROG love the RX switches.
I bought this keyboard a few months ago, and I absolutely love it.
Left numpad is also better in general, allows for more ergonomic usage of the mouse while navigating spreadsheets or filling out other datasets.
Source: been on a wireless left hand numpad for two years and haven't looked back once.
i think this is going to be my next keyboard for 1 reason only... name brand mech with left side numbpad! holy smokes! these need to be more popular for accounting/3d design!
You could have both sides with this?
A great review and no products were dropped! :)
A reversible numpad reminds me of an old Sidewinder X6
I have a diy 65% keyboard based on the 68keys design and a custom made numpad with 2 extra keys and a rotary encoder with the same design. Both are running QMK and are completely independent of each other. I have my mouse in between the two, I think its the perfect setup. I also just ordered another 65% for work.
I've never understood why keyboard manufacturers still insist on putting macro and special keys on the right when the majority of people use their mouse with their right hand. Put it on my left so I can use my left hand for more than just typing normally so I don't have to take my hand off the mouse.
I'm not into mechanical keyboards but I really like this one's design!
8:00 every time i installed rog armory crate it caused my system to become corrupt and had to reinstall my os
i love the fact that it's split I use numpad for work but don't want it on the table all the time due to table space (trying to go for the clean look)
8:52 "This is 269 (nice) 99"
Me : Wait... Did he really said what I heared ?
*Le me rewinding"
Me : Hehe... Nice !
I had the older model that just broke after 3 to 4 years of constant use and now I'm misserable when the numpad is on the right. And he worst thing is that I know I have to get this.
Let's hope this at least lasts for 4 years
i saw this coming since at least 1 year ago. makes sense. will buy one after 3 years when they afforable
"affordable"? how much do you expect the price to come down in 3 years? $50? even if they come down by $100, you're going to wait 3 years and not get something you want, for the sake of saving, what, 9 cents a day (if you do the math)? will you even be alive in 3 years? life's too short, seriously. i'd be just cutting down say 1 coffee a week and enjoy the keyboard today and those weekly savings would quickly make the keyboard "affordable"