CATL's Shenxing battery likely for Model Y Juniper can charge in 11 minutes
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In China Xiaomi is a trusted brand. People have their homes full of stuff made by Xiaomi. The pre-orders for their first car are entirely believable. Zeekr on the other hand was only founded 3 years ago. Most people don't look up which brands are owned by which companies. From a Chinese point of view Xiaomi will likely be more trusted than Zeekr. From a Western point of view, both companies are somewhat novel.
Zeekr is from Geely though which is one of the largest car company in the world and is well known. One of my friends in China just bought a Zeekr and loves it.
@@kevinlin4895 Yes, but not everyone is going to connect Zeekr with Geely. If they did there would be little point in the brand of Zeekr. Everything would be badged Geely. They also own Volvo, Polestar, and Lotus among others.
Incidentally, I hope to be able to get a Zeekr 007 if they ever bring it to my country.
Well done CATL
That Zeekr 001 is gorgeous! - Very Porsch-like. Geeley manufacture for Volvo, Smart, Polestar, and Lotus - I think... all quality vehicles. Xiaomi are a good "tech" company, but I wouldn't trust their software... the phones have a lot of bugs (in my expeirnece). EVs usually have pretty poor software when they first come out, then it takes 12 months+ to iron out the bugs.
i would definitely Rely on software from software company.
It is so exciting to see charging speeds keep on improving. 10% - 80% capacity in 10 minutes is fast enough. We can all go with EVs and save the environment.
What's wrong with the environment? I haven't noticed any problems.
@@robertfonovic3551 I guess you don't live in a country whereby you are see the extremes of weather patterns happen more and more often, fast than should naturally occur - yes, weather patterns change, global warming is natural...but all of this should take place over 00s if not 000s of years which allows nature to evolve fast enough. But we've fucked the natural order of things.
All the countries that produce our food are either seeing droughts or floods. Migration out of these places will ramp up as people move north for colder/less hot conditions.
My home city is seeing wetter and wetter weather. The ground isn't getting a chance to dry out and flooding is happening year round. It used to be all the winter wet was locked in snow and ice and took weeks to drip away. Now it hits rivers quickly, they can't cope, and it bursts its banks weekly these days.
You maybe lucky or you may not realise the change. But it's happening.
EVs wont save the environment alone though. But it is one of the key parts. If we can stop burning fuel to the tune of billions of gallons a day, that will go a long way.
If we move our energy grid to renewable, that'll go a long way.
If everyone that can moves to solar roofs, that'll go a long way.
If we move away from gas central heating, that'll go a long way.
And yes, if we move to EVs, that'll go a long way.
And to play devil's advocate, if climate change is false, all of that above will strengthen our economy, strengthen our energy independence from foreign powers and clean up our streets so we don't kill people just because we have to go to Aldi.
EVs contribution to global warming are minimal, ICE vehicles make up about 4 percent of the greenhouse gas target savings for Australia and that assumes 100% uptake and the electricity used to charge them does not come from fossil fuels. Aside from the inability to even provide 250kwh chargers at scale in Australia, or the fact that charging stations are not profitable, the charging speed of the battery is not the limiting factor.
Our government has the focus highly on EVs to distract from the fact that they arent doing their bit in regards to funding grid scale energy storage which will make a much bigger difference. Getting rid of coal powered electricity generation and moving to renewables is the only way Australia can make any sort of meaningful contribution.
If the charging speeds became quicker across the board it would help boost sales
@robertfonovic3551 people die in large cities do to air quality every year, and just like smoking it can add risk of lung issues. If we can switch to a technology that keeps dropping in prices, charging speeds and has about the same range. Why not.
There are two significant errors in this vlog. First, it is the Zeekr 007 (not the 001) that is comparable in terms of price with the entry level Xiaomi SU 7. The Zeekr 007 is slightly cheaper - by a bit less than 2% - and it is indeed directly competitive with the SU 7. Both the Xiaomi SU 7 and the Zeekr 007 undercut the entry level Tesla Model 3 - by 12% to 14% - and are directly competitive with it while offering better features. The Zeekr 007 has the great advantage of an 800V architecture, a major win over its competitors.
In China, the Zeekr 001 does not directly compete with the Tesla Model 3. The Zeekr 001 is an SUV not a sedan. And, the entry level 001 costs nearly 20% more than the entry level Model 3. With the Zeekr 001, Geely is squarely taking aim at the Tesla Model Y. That Geely prices the 001 in line with higher spec Model 3s is just our good fortune.
As to the second error. Sam, you keep saying that a Tesla Model 3 or Y will charge more quickly once these new CATL batteries are slotted in as a replacement for the existing batteries. That is true - the peak charging rate will rise to some extent. That is the good news. But, you are not telling the whole story. There is some bad news, too. You are aware of it, aren't you? A battery capable of extreme fast charging won't be able to charge at anything like its optimal peak rate while ever it is limited by charging infrastructure or vehicle electrical design that is not fit for the job. So, there is a difference between how fast a battery can charge (in an ideal charging scenario) and how fast it will in fact charge when limited by a specific charging infrastructure and/or a vehicle electrical architecture that is poorly matched to the battery's capabilities.
You just can't keep putting more and more amps through the battery. First, chargers just aren't built to allow to just keep turning up the tap. Second, and more significantly, I²R losses - heating of the cells - mean that continually turning up the current (I) is a technically fraught way to deliver fast charging because heat is the enemy of reliable battery operation and the high current route ensures a lot of heat build-up (quadratic increase) as current is increased.
From these facts it is clear that high voltage is the only way forward for fast charging. Similarly, an EV must implement a high voltage architecture (800V+) which in turn must be supported by high voltage chargers. That is the only way a battery formally rated for fast charging, 5C+ say, will ever be able to charge at truly high rates. Sticking such a battery in a Tesla with 400V architecture simply doesn't work.
@@reginald7214 Perhaps, but Tesla has three huge advantages: 1] FSD technology, 2] superior software with OTA updates, 3] giant installed base of SuperChargers. I'm looking forward to the Model 2 with FSD in a few years.
The cybertruck has 800V achitecture. So, that will probably be the first to get the new battery. But, the key is capacity. If you have a larger battery range, I think people will live with a long charging time because you can charge at home and overnight.
😂Funny story Viking!! I just had my CATL for breakfast 😊
You Eat your cat
That quick charge time should reduce the uber driver ques...
Just saw a report from your part of the world:
Australian design student Alexander Burton, RMIT Univ. has created the REVR a 2-hub motor & 15 KW spare tire replacing battery EV hybrid retrofit conversion, targeted for a $3200 US cost, including installation.
A potential to robotaxi? To reduce drivers and reduce costs
Unfortunately here in the United States there are very few 500 KW charging stations as a matter of fact I don't even think we have one here in the state of Florida most here in Florida can only do 150 kilowatts but there are quite a few that can do 350 kilowatts
i dont think there are any anywhere yet.
I'd love to hear Tesla's response.... If they're going to refit or replace the current chargers too 500 kW. Then they're most likely going to have to change the infrastructure supplying the power and maybe put mega packs as well.
@@ryan6391 A lot of the Superchargers already have Megapacks. I doubt that they will replace existing chargers, what they will probably do is just put in new ones with higher output. I remember going to a shopping center in Broward and there was a 150kw supercharger by Tesla in the parking lot. A year later, they put another one across the street, but it was the 250kw version. Every time I go to that area, I see both practically full because let's face it just last year alone Tesla sold about a Million cars just in North America. This year will probably be even more.
11 minuets wow fast
Love to see Zeekr with FSD! That's scary I
This is amazing. The rate of improvement is wonderful.
Thank you very much!
Time will tell…
Awesome !!!
With this new battery technology, Electric Vehicles will sale like hot cakes !!!
😉💖🔋🌞💖👍💯🌏✌️
Will they build these at US factroy's( the new Catl Battery)
Looking forward to the 800V+ architecture batteries making into the Neta GT.
This will be great if true because:
I believe my biggest expense in my solar system has been the batteries. I went from AGM, which I believe were overrated to flooded cells, which are quite a but more work, but if properly maintained, it will last longer than AGM batteries. Then I finally found a lithium battery that I could afford with a 10-year warranty that wasn't pro-rated. Expensive but when you calculate the available usage of 80% without damaging the battery versus only having about 30% battery capacity available from either AGM or flooded cells then the price doesn't look that high. Over a 10 year period came to around $.32/wh
I dunno I watched a few other videos which said that the deposit for xiaomi was non refundable. That's getting confusing on who's right about the deposit unless Xiomi itself has been flipping back and forth abt the deposit.
Totally agree with your assessment of zeekr 001 vs the new xiaomi...i also like the zeekr 007..xiaomi will add all the infotainment goodies but actual build goes without doubt toward geely...no comparison..a well built car with good tech any day over a bloated tech car with no history of its built..
I hope it goes in the Model 2 as well!
Good
But how many times you need to charge this fast
LfP batteries are known for lower pack voltage. Just like the BYD blade packs from the model Y, at 350-ish volts, the 170kW charging speed is limited by almost all DC fast chargers being limited to 500Amps. Even 350kW will need insanely thick cables to support the 1000Amps going through it (and chargers that support that, which they currently do not) if the Juniper gets the CATL pack, and supports these higher charging speeds, it definitaly also means going to 800V platform.
I agree. The voltage is determined by pack design. There's no physical reason an LFP can't charge at 800 volts if designed for it. You are also correct on the amps. Tesla V4 is limited to a max of 615amps. If you look at the mega charger cables that can charge at 1,000 amps they are visibly thicker then V4.
Yeah, but going 800V on a pack level would mean having 250 cells connected in series (LFP cell is rated at 3.2V and usually 280Ah) which would mean having 224kWh pack if CATL did not change the very basis of LFP (which I highly doubt).
@@m3gajv3r I think the amount of amps is wrong. Depending on pack size EV's will have between 2,000 to 9,000 cylindrical cells depending on pack size and of course size of the cell. Blade batteries are a different monster but they can be partition in either series or parallel as required. Most 800 volt vehicles currently use a split pack at 400 volts per pack to achieve 800 volts. This is supposed to help with charging at high and low voltage chargers but so far the charging speed results have been mixed with 800 volt architectures.
@@m3gajv3r you have LFP cells much smaller than 280Ah. This is not the issue. Series or parallel, the amount of cells, and the capacity does not change. 5x 3V/1Ah cell in series is 15V, 1Ah and thus 15Wh, and that same cells in pararllel is 3V, 5Ah = still 15Wh.
Batteries like this in a super efficient Aptera: a crazy number of miles/sec charging (400 miles in 5 minutes).
Exactly. In 10 years time when Aptera and Lucid Air tech becomes standard across EVs, along with this battery...people will wonder why they bothered arguing against EVs instead of just waiting - they aren't buying one today anyway 😅
@@colinwisemanaptena and lucid will be forgotten in 5 years
Bring on the coulomb. Would be interesting to see the long term effects though.
I'm an owner of model y, and it's already peaks at 1000+ miles per hour at supercharger consequently 250 miles in 15 minutes. The problem is it does it for only few minutes and slows down pretty quickly, and I feel the charging cable gets warm, so tat high charging speeds will most likely require charging infrastructure upgrade.
Mind blowing speeds
that battery would be wasted on a model 3/Y, because of the ~400V architecture. You need 800V in order to achieve those charging speeds. That's probably the main reason why it's not on teslas
It is on Cybertruck!
I worry a bit Sam that all the hype about charging speed is actually an indirect validation of how essential it is that electric vehicles get down to gasoline refueling times. It's not essential. We have a a couple of first-generation model 3 with unlimited free supercharging and by the time we go to the bathroom get coffee and a snack, we've only got 5 to 10 minutes left in our charging cycle. Not a big deal.
I’m with you on this charge time deal. There’s got to be a lot of added cost for the infrastructure needed to provide the added electrical power for ultra quick charging. I suppose there could be a charging express line that customers pay more to use. It makes more sense to just learn to chill out while charging to me though.
@@yourpappy57Fully agree - we prefer 30-40 minutes for our pit stops with our 2023 LR Model Y. Effectively, it takes less than 60 seconds to both plug in and to unplug, when we return after our pit stop.
Do we know what the likely range will be?
At 800 volts, will the 001 be able to charge at Tesla chargers?
Wonder if Volvo and Polestar will utilize this(Geely)
Zeekr is announcing its products in Brazil on the second semester this year. The BYD Seagull sell numbers are up to 4k a month already, Dolphin about 3K, so, there's room for electric vehicles. Legacy automakers just don't offer it with fair prices.
Go get em Sam
The SU7 is SPLENDID ! Much more sexy than the ZEEKR
Where exactly are the chargers that help achieve these amazing charging speeds outside of a test labs? Is it truly "already here?"
Morning mate
Is it all real? Won't know until it's out for a while
But how long will these battery packs last then? Many say that frequent fast charging is not good for the battery.
As long as your BMS is well designed, there shouldn't be too much deteriorating effect. But even BMS with no active cooling could profit from those batteies as they'll probably also allow faster charging with passive cooling. This could lead to cheaper low performance vehicles.
Doesn't need to be frequently done, but the ability to have that option is a big mental barrier for a lot of people, so would help ease minds in that regard.
Nice but in my situation unnecessary. 99% of my charging is done at home while I sleep. I just don't need to use superchargers except perhaps once a year on a holiday road trip. I'm more interested in batteries degrading less. Not that it's that bad now anyway.
wow!! Xiaomi SU7 have that😮😮
If they can do 260km equivalent charging in 15 minutes, that would still be amazing and the battery lasted longer or lighter.
How many 600Kw chargers in the USA. Zero.
Publicly available perhaps, tesla has installed multiple megachargers for the semi at different locations doing 750+kws.
And another company installing charin class megachargers announced last month successful ev truck charging of 1+mwhr.
100 000 reservations at say $100 per reservation is a $10 million interest free loan to pay for building the factory or the materials going into the cars.
We'll done , but I still prefer a 1000 km range car bcz there r still many places in world where is not an single gas station upto hundreds of miles
When charging speeds can get down to 10 minutes for an 80% charge, it's game over for dirty ICE cars. Over 95% of my charging for my Tesla Model 3 RWD standard is done at home, but I can charge to 80% in about 20 minutes at a Tesla supercharger if I go on a road trip.
This is old school outdated gas station thinking.
People need to (and will) adjust their thinking about powering their transportation.
We are going to morph from just a few select retail outlets to get power (gasoline) to a nearly ubiquitous set of choices of where to power up.
No one will need super, super fast charging when you can stop most anywhere along a motorway for a quick power boost.
If you can stop and get 50 to 100 miles of range by the time you can go pee and buy a soda, that will be good enough. You'll know that you'll be able to add another 200 miles of range when you stop to eat. You'll have confidence that your choice of restaurant or fast food place will have the charging to make that so.
Even only three convenient stops in the day will make driving 600 miles in a day too easy (when starting out with a full charge). (That's pretty much a full day of travel.)
Byd and MG are way behind Zeekr in technology
I wouldn't be surprised that both BYD and CATL are looking at US factories. Reason: they're going to be supplying battery packs to every EV manufacturer in the USA.
Not if your government has anything to say about it. Look at all the kerfuffle happening with Ford/CATL or Gotion.
How many months you speak about new catl batteries in tesla? First it was quilin, now this. And though nothing is reality yet.
Estimated cycles life of batteries? I now want the Geeley over my Tesla 😬
Hi Sam,
thank you.
You said not so long ago, rather than 5 years time to see these sorts of figures, its literally months.
One small but significant point the ICE in my 72 years never witnessed these huge technology developments, if this had of happened, we should have gone from ICE to jet powered cars in the first 30 years.
These technology developments are unheard of in the history of the motor industry, truly amazing.
Great posts
My 71 years concur. I suspect legacy ICE creators were uninterested in advancing ICE technology, particularly when they are hand-in-glove with oil drillers.
@Longtack55 Yes a missed opportunity soiled by oil companies, also crushing innovative technology by buying up patents, only to bury them. A great shame, the boomers could have been a lot further down the road.
Nice, but most of the Tesla Superchargers only charge at 150 and 250 kwh charging speeds.
Where is my closest 500kw charger Sam.
Have you got a hand mirror? I’ll show you…
Ask the Fukowee tribe, they might know.
Do you have a car that needs a 500kw charger? If you don't then you don't need to worry. If you do, then it'll charge quite rapidly on a 350kw.
When the 500kw are put in place in 5 years time you'll be the first to be told 👍
Take my 💰 NOW!
500kW is a huge amount of power to charge just one car! Getting enough power to charging stations, even on a moderate scale, is probably a bigger problem than designing a single car to accept that much power. The mindset of getting a quick fill-up is going to have to change.
I am not an electrician, but isnt it equivalent than 250kw but running for twice longer? If cars recharge twice as fast, you have roughly twice less cars recharging at same time
@@Vilmir I’m not following your logic, but I’m not an electrician either. However, we had 3 500kW generators on a ship I worked on as an engineer and the engines to run those generators were locomotive engines (EMD). Well, two were EMDs and one was a little gas turbine (jet) engine. Boggles my mind to think of the electrical power that’ll be needed to run all cars and trucks on electric. Electrical power infastructure needs to lead the electric cars coming on by at least a year you’d think.
@@yourpappy57 hard to elaborate the logic in a comment, but think about the total amount of time to recharge for the ensemble of vehicles. If they recharge twice faster, the total amount of time to complete their charge is twice lower. If the repartition of their charge is uniform during the opening time, the average load on the grid shall not change as the average number of vehicles charging at any instant is twice lower.
If you can find a charger that will do it! Went to a 150 kW charger the other day I got 60 kW max 🤨 also, why are people just buying these cars like they are mobile phones? Where do you service it or get parts?
Pls let this be real 🙏🏻
Does anybody know what the energy source for the heater in EV cars is? Does it use electricity from the battery directly or something else?
If from the battery directly, how does it impact the battery consumption?
Usually heatpumps. Very efficient
Yes. Lots of people know. Search engines are your friend.
Some peak but after that it maintains .. you can probably run your heating for 30-40 hours on a full charge.
If not from the battery, then what is this "something else" ?
In my experience, the difference between resistive heating and heatpumps doesn't significantly affect range - ie, it won't affect the location of your next charge.
You have heard of air conditioners and heat pumps? Two sides of the same coin.
This just shows how much their work is pushing battery storage and charging speeds forward. Whilst also removing most of the fire risk.
That Xeekr screen looks like a Tesla!
Where is Tesla's own wonder battery?
Looks like the 001 is birthed from a Dodge and a Porsche.
That's good.... I just hope it doesn't hurt itself if you do it all the time.
I get why people want faster charging but what does that do for long term battery health? Yeah yeah theoretically it's LFP and should be fine but do we really know that? I wonder.
It would be great if they split the battery, fast charge 260 km worth and the rest slow charge or some mix that will serve most use cases and have the battery discharge accordingly. Get long battery life, high capacity, somewhat low weight, and fast charging.
There is an unnecessary push to make owning and refuelling a BEV the same as an ICE vehicle. In reality, the number of times the vast majority of people need to charge a BEV at those sorts of rates is very, very small. BEVs and ICE vehicles spend 95+% of their time stationary so in the BEV world we just need to focus on charging when stopped rather than stop to charge.
How many Australian charging stations are equipped to charge a Shenxing battery equipped EV in 11 minutes? That would be none.
Sure, that's today. But how many cars have this battery...that'd be none also.
In 5-10 years time when companies have popped these super chargers in place, you'll be glad your car today can use those chargers of tomorrow.
@@colinwiseman So, the quick charging times are irrelevant for public charger users today, and will never benefit those who charge at home.
@@snappingclam8801 for those charging at home ,it is already 20 seconds. 10 seconds in the evening to plug in , 10 seconds in the morning to plug out.
@@snappingclam8801 Don't need that speed for charging at home.
@@snappingclam8801 Tesla are presently installing those 1,000kw Superchargers in America, along with "Semi" chargers along the routes they operate.
The downside is they catch fire after 10 mins of charging so......
World require, #Super fast charging, #;Million miles battery durability # 500km/ Charge. # 5 Star safty # Affordable ( 10-15K $)
A nuclear power plant produces 1Gw per hour , at 500 KW you could only charge 2000 cars at the same time, doesn't seem very feasible.
Keep in mind the car is on the charger for only 10 minutes so it's more like at a gas station, there won't be so many cars "refueling" at the same time.
I thought 4680’s were the future for Tesla and that others had to follow to be viable? Hmmmmmm
10 minutes is too short for a usable break. When this becomes standard I'd like to have an option to charge slower to spare the battery and have time to have a meal.
Yup. Most EV owners plan their charging around pee and KFC breaks. So if it's too fast, your journey actually gets longer as you have to wait and then go for a break.
*Break.
It's easy bro, after you finish eating then you charge your EV... maybe while drinking a soft drink or eating a snack... of course it's fun! 😂
@@christopherj2231 Thanks! German auto correction at work.
You can choose your charging speed
Every time someone makes an anti EV comment about what "can't be done" the Chinese just add that to their to-do list. Those folks are just giving them ideas. 🤣
too bad US consumers wont be able to get this battery
Absolutely question xaiomi, but I have watched thier smart phones mature, go team red ♥️
11 minute charging ......only works if that power is available.....
Charges 1% in 11minutes, possibly 😂
Tesla Supercharger doesn't get charge that fast....so far it's 350kwh is the max
This is not a real comparison because one car is 30,000 and the other one is hundred thousand.
Why does the Zeekr look like a frog?
Any excellent product from China is deemed a security concern for US, Tesla needs to be careful buying this new battery from CATL.
Fast charging is not a priority except for semi trucks or taxis. Home charging like your cell phone is how the majority of EV owners charge. The car sits in the garage 10 hours a day. This focus on charging speeds is a bragging right
This is so wrong, us Millions and millions of apartment dwellers would love fast charging. We aren't allowed to add chargers too apartment building, or it's cost prohibitive.
My place wants to charge me 100 dollars extra a month to use garage, building is at least 60 years old.
If I could go to the supermarket and charge car by the time I get back. Winner winner chicken dinner.
Less and less of us have garages at home.
changer de voiture ne suffit plus, il faut changer les bornes. ce n'est pas simple
BATTERY is only half of the story. Even if they put this battery into the new model y, if it continues at 400v, then there won't be much improvement. Didn't you know that? Also, that speed only works in China as the latest Tesla's charging stations peak at 350kw, in china y find thousands of charging stations with over 500kw from Huawei, nio, zeekr, li auto etc etc
Chicken and egg.
Buy the car that needs 500kw today, charge really fast at 350kw and in a few years time when service stations have 500kw chargers you'll be able to take advantage of it.
Or buy a slower charging car today and in 5 years time you'll not be able to take advantage of the super super fast chargers.
Like PCs. I buy the best my money can afford today, where software can never stress it out because I know at some point software will come along that can take advantage of the PC. I don't buy a pc that's just good enough for the applications today as it'll be rubbish tomorrow.
@@colinwiseman I’m just saying that these cars using this special battery and charging full battery under 15 minutes are 800v architecture. Even if tesla model y used it, it won’t archived that charging performance not even close because they are 350/400v so no matter if charging station is 500kw it still won’t charge that fast. It will improve the speed but not by much but the range will increase by a great margin. Model y needs to meet 3 conditions to charge like these new Chinese cars. 1: It needs to be 800v. 2: it needs the qilin battery. 3: it needs a charging station of over 500kw peak capacity. If it fails at one of these 3 it won’t achieve that charging performance and I don’t think the owner of the channel knows it. In fact I actually think the qilin battery dont work on cars that are not 800v and that explain why testa didn’t use on the new model 3 highland
Xiaomi is made by GWM, so most likely the software and some designs is what they provided to put their badge on it.
Should be great for PHEV’s !!!
😂 that built in generator produces maybe 5kw
PHEV can't charge that fast
PHEV’s will charge their battery in the same time as filling the fuel tank ! On to a winner there 🎯
@@lesliecarter4295 ever seen a portable generator and the power it makes
Why would it go into Tesla? The only use of Tesla to China is the internal US tension it and the figure of Musk creates. given mess US is by it's own effort not much needed to be done.
Tesla is catl largest single cell consumer EVER since late 2021 genius smdh. 😏
But I don’t live in China.Do you?
1.4B do
With these high powers of charging, could you also start focusing on progress on building out the massive electrical generation infrastructure that is required to enable those high charging speeds?
The US won’t allow this battery in their domestic market. So this car will be available in the rest of the world and the USA will be proud to drive fossil burners while Texas 🥵 burns.
Texas is a very big player now with renewable energy.
@@jaaklucas1329 agreed Texas is big in renewables because of all the sun and wind that Texas has. Despite your idiot politicians, especially the governor, who are controlled by the oil lobby. . Not to the extent that it is happening in China though. China will have more than 50% EVs and their use of oil will be dropping in three years.
@@fredfrond6148 Was surprised to see Texas leading the US in wind! Electricity is everywhere to be harvested and in so many different methods it amazes me.
@@jaaklucas1329 yup for freaking free once you install the equipment. Then we will have the small footprint SMR nuclear reactors.
There are unlikely to ever be chargers this powerful in the West.
No thoughtful person would purchase a Tesla these days.
No mention of Tesla's drop in sales and share price. oh dear.
And? Short term pain, for long term gain!
@@rozonoemi9374 Is that what you call it. Well Toyota have had a Q1 up buy 21.3% a company that does not put all their eggs in the EV basket
@@nottmfunguy Short term gain, for long term pain!
@@nottmfunguy Toyota are Environmental Criminals!
Claimed numbers.. Let's see the real numbers before releaseing clickbait vids eh?
Problem is 500 kw is like switching on 200 air conditioners at once, imagine charging millions of cars no way the grid can handle this load.
They won’t all be charging at once
Load for the grid will be the same regardless of speed once you talk about even 100 cars it will average out .
Grid has no problem with EVs over 95% of charging happens at home at night when the grid is idle.
AI training computers is by far the biggest problem for the grid the next few years.
There won't be anywhere near enough 500 kW chargers for everyone to use them all at once.
Way too many people worry about whether or not the grid can handle the load of EVs.
Tesla EVs can be modified with a software update to charge intelligently to avoid adding to peak grid load. Limiting 90 percent of charging to after 10 PM and before 3 PM would completely negate all concerns about grid stability. With bidirectional power sharing, it would actually take some of the load off of the grid during peak hours.
@@jessedavisson701 I am not worried about home charging it's just those 500+ kw charging.
The charging line moves only as fast as the slowest charging vehicle. 💯🤡
No lines in California
Where the hell is the endless supply of zero emission electricity and the grid to deliver it? The EV agenda requires magical thinking.
In the USA, clean energy has gone from 31% to 42% of electricity generation over the last decade. The recent clean energy laws should accelerate that adoption, which is still slow, but the ship is turning.
China could be so great without the ccp man. Its sad. Imagine a 1.2 million people Taiwan.... holy sh9t. China would not be spreading fear, but progress.
Too much waffle.
If you have s brain you must realize we who invent dont just invent and sit still. You keep inventing.
Let me know when it's down to 3 minutes, otherwise eff off.
@@alfiedamage9203 you not able to charge at home ? :-( 😢
@@alfiedamage9203lots of street chargers in London now and more every day…
Your time is so precious.. 11 mins you can charge while taking a dump.
@@alfiedamage9203 LOL
Too bad, the time is coming closer and closer that nobody will be able to buy any other new vehicle except an ev, and those who don't like it tough!
This is why EV cars shouldn’t be mandatory. The market will except them when they are convenient and affordable
No car should be mandatory. And the gov should not steal money from there citizens and give it to company’s. And I have not had a gas car since 2014
They aren't mandatory. Petrol engines have still got 25 years left.
@@colinwiseman Not sure where you’re located but here in the states it’s all just a lie if they cared so much about Ev’s they wouldn’t charge me an extra $250 for my plats. And if they were so anti-gas, they wouldn’t be giving oil companies billions of dollars every year.
News Flash they're not mandatory. Second news flash - they're taking over because they're more fun to drive, cheaper, safer, and more economical.
@@colinwiseman The fuel efficiency and pollution standards are quickly killed ice cars. As manufacturers change things too quickly the ice cars get less reliable and durable. It’s a multipoint plan to kill ice cars so you have no choice! It started with Obama.
i hate your intro
LOL
That's more like it....a man that doesn't pussy foot around.
Stop it!