BYD's new battery can charge an Electric Car in 10 minutes
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- BYD's new battery can charge an Electric Car in 10 minutes
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I am a fan of BYD’s blade battery and DM-i technology. Its DM-i technology is truly amazing, it makes Toyota’s hybrid be like a technolog from the Paleolithic Period. I guess that's why Toyota is gonna adapt BYD’s DM-i technology.
Yeah the Japanese auto industry must be feeling like how the U.S. car makers felt around about 1978, when foreign competitors (the Japanese of that era) started eating their lunch. In fact China itself is starting to feel the sting of competitors in Vietnam and India but it'll be a while before they take away China's car industry.
@@ChickensAndGardening Free market is gone! If you can’t beat them, ban them!
Lmao. The DM-i 5.0 is like a straight up revolution. Gas cars that size (Camry) uses 10L+ gas per 100km during city drive. Qin L uses 2.1 L/100km (when there's no electricity). I was like how? it's impossible? But they did achieve it.
The only things I saw on western forums regarding it was just 'it's CCP propaganda', 'it's bs advertisement' etc. It's like they are bots working for CIA or something.
@monipenny408 only if byd had the vehicle quality to match their great batteries
Do you think the average consumer cares? At the moment hybrids are king and apparently Toyota chose the best strategy.
That’s too fast, I can’t eat my subway in such a short time 😮😂
Oh thank goodness. Sam has another “revolutionary” new battery for us. I was starting to get battery withdrawal symptoms after going two hours without Sam detailing another new battery.
Spot on! He is guilty of battery! Sorry…🤣
@@kallekas8551 That's what she said!
Yeah, this is pretty speculative but CATL's new battery charges at 560kw and is already in vehicles, so 600kw is certainly possible.
wrg, cepuxuax, outx, cna outx etc any nmw s perfx
Rofl just more of Sam clickbait he is stunned by everything
China's vehicles were progressing at phenomenal speed whether it is EVs or hybrids. BYD's DMi Gen 5 hybrids just became headlines for their above 2000km range on a 65L full tank fuel & a full charge. Now their battery had another breakthrough. Other automakers are in such stress to catch up.
You hear about chines EV fires all the time... But what most people don't know is that it is the HYBRIDS (some from BYD) that are burning, not the pure BEV blade battery powered BYD's
@@greghudson9717 Greg, you hear about Chinese EV fires “all the time” (your words) because they really are in fact catching fire in China. The Chinese domestic EVs get a 2nd rate battery installed to keep the cost down whereas the export EVs get a much better quality battery. Hence the lower fire risk outside China.
Coz chinese live to work. No one can catch them.
@@fanbelt9926 evidence? which brand? which car?
@@fanbelt9926 evidence? which brand? which car?
My Atto3 has a 60KWHr 126S1P LFP blade battery. Two years on works great no sign of degredation.
I rarely fast charge but when I do its mostly about 60KWhr for 15 min. More than enough for my needs.
I all want from a car is at least a 700 mile range as most of my driving is going to my daughters 255 mile journey seeing our grandchildren one who is autistic. So when we go up there time is a essence to us we have to go to remote places as he can’t stand lots of people so no chargers there . We do about 100 to 150 miles up there then a 255 mile drive home
@@snodgeemiles is used in Canada & US
China BEV don't seem to sell over there.
Across border into Mexico, south America, there's lot more options, if one csn drive car back, wonder if there's tax on 2nd hand cars?
BYD busses are manufactured in US
@@snodgeeBYD hybrid 1x new model has ~ 2,000 km range
there're BEV of 1,000 km range but using dangerous Ternary battery may not be a good option to buy.
Hybrid may be option until war hit between big powers 2025 & fuel prices goes up
60kwh in 15 min , thats 240KW charging ?
@@thomasvennekens4137 Typo, 60KW for 15min. That provides 100km driving. I only fast charge with the battery state between 20% and 80% and only charge for my immediate travel needs.
I only do 100% charging overnight using a 7KW slow charge.
I have been driving EVs for three years and have never used a fast charger. For those who can charge at home and who do not do long trips the charging time is fairly irrelevant. I am more interested in increasing storage per kg.
#Me too
Our Leaf charges pretty well from the 110 volt outlet, but it takes 24+ hours if the car is depleted. It would be nice to speed that up, so we're probably going to install a 220.
U so closed minded ..this is why I stop driving a tesla and ev period takes to long to charge ...I have to charge 3 -4 items a day
@@snow-uq4gx Seriously? How far do you drive in a day?
Mfrs should make battery upgrades simple.
I owned a Model 3 for over 3 years the only maintenance cost was two rear replacement tyres and charging was mostly done at night at home so saved $2600 in fuel compared to my BMW X1. Now i live in Asia which is full of new EVs i am purchasing my next EV. McKinsey report probably sponsored by Big Oil. China just reached 48% NEV market penetration. Forget the Media BS and embrace the future
i spent far less than with with my 2014 honda crv LX FWD.
@@mattwill63
I spend no money, I walk. 😂
@@Anonymous------ you also have no real freedom.
Oh shite, forgot about the extra $2,500 per year increase in insurance compared to an ICE car.
@@hadtobe4502 Well, well, not the government stopping EV's expansion already :)
Like old TVs and telephones, the technology will continue to evolve leapfrogging in capability while continuing to fall in price. Welcome to the new world of extreme efficiency.
TVs and telephones *did* leapfrog constantly. So far, in the 15 years of EV, the only real change in the marketplace where it counts is pretty much LFP other than packaging.
@@ohger1 The "real change in the marketplace where it counts" is the reduction in price of lithium batteries. 15 years ago the price for a 1 kwh lithium battery was over $1200. Today that same 1 kwh battery is around $100.
Welcome to the world of fast redundancy.
@@Rabbitt-d6y TBH cell phones when they first came out were the equivalent of $4000 in today’s money…plus call rates at Eleventy Million $/min.
The tech is impressive. Shame it's so hard to find a charger here in the uk
To be honest 10% to 80% percent in 10 minutes is awesome. Even a car with 45 or 50 KWh would be VERY comfortable with this charging rate.
With over 100k R&D engineers, BYD will deliver more and more.
The time to switch to ev's was yesterday. I drive a leaf and I'm happy. Many ev owners are just technology nerds. I drive a ev bacause i am a environmentalists.
...aren't you special...
Good on ya mate!
We just got a '22 Leaf for our daughter in college and she couldn't be happier. Really nice little car, peppy and efficient. I would like one for myself. Too bad they discontinued it; seems like a mistake, but what do I know?
@@ChickensAndGardening She might bring home an alpha male with a mustang or charger
no such thing as nerdx or etc, some tech x s k, doesn't matter, no nerx nmw
When can I charge my phone in 10 minutes?
I can charge mine in 15-20. 🤷
tesla super charger, get a tesla charger to usb c cable,
You don’t need to. Don’t you ever sleep? Do it then.
@@audistik1199I think his point is we can’t even charge our phone in 10 min so it is BS that we can charge our EV in 10
I use a lenovo type-c charger on my phone, 30-100 in like 20-30minutes. ill need to perform a proper test, but yeah using a laptop charger is super fast. probably not great for the battery, but whatever, in a couple years ill probably be moving onto the next gen phone.
Thanks for the great news. I hope everybody in the world could share the benefits of this technology without tariffs.
though tariffs are losers' weapon.
cars are born with tariffs.
just let car makers build domestic factories, done.
CATL’s kirin battery is expensive. Zeekr 001 with that battery is about 15k usd more expensive than its other trims.
As fast as charging your phone
Faster!
Sam, Your trip to China is long long overdue. Looking forward to view your videos on China EV industries - hopefully you cover EV related industries other than BYD.
NIO is special car maker. top gear had a movie on it.
Its the same with ICE cars. You buy one today, tomorrow it's obsolete when a hybrid comes out. You buy a hybrid today, tomorrow a way longer range hybrid comes out.
Why should a ICE Car be obsolet?As long as the Car drives Its perfekt!
650kw is about the amount of a small power plant. Charging stations are going to need battery buffering to output such charging. With buffering such charging stations will not stress the grid.
I bought my rav4 hybrid last year and love it. Only spending about $150 in gas, used to spend $400+ with previous gas car. Keep developing EV's because my next car will be an EV that has at least 1K mile range with full charge in 5 minutes. Never say never.
I don't know if this will happen any time soon but I think the whole idea of battery swapping always seemed to be something that would eventually lose viability because rapid charging would be faster without the extra investment in stations and loads of spare batteries.
Cool that it is the fastcharging that is developing so quick. Hopefully it won’t destroy the battery to much in the long run
they have examined the sideeffect in chemical/ions level.
There seems to be all these new battery technologies being developed, but when are we actually going to see them in vehicles? Would also be very cool if they could be installed in previous gen vehicles.
You need a EV which support battery swaps. Then you will get the newest battery tech also to older vehickles.
Wow another game changer, how many have we had so far this year😂
...revolutionary!!!...
Mindblowing and Toyota will BE bankrupt for sure!:)Ahhahaha Just wishfull thinking!;)
All of these battery metrics and specifications. There are two that are primary, because they will determine "where the battery technology can be used" and I don't see it mentioned or listed very often. (1) Power to weight ratio. (2) Power to size or volume ratio, as well as the (3) Power to dollar ratio.
The ideal would be all of: "high power", "light weight", "small size", "low cost", "long useful life", "quick charging". If a battery met all that criteria, it could be used in almost any device, and in almost any application. The extreme extension of that would be: something the size of your thumb could power your house for a year.
600kw fast charging is great but the charging network in NZ is mainly 50kw charging. Hopefully upgrades are coming
I will believe it when I see it in real world conditions.
not likely, the Norseman needs to churn out content...
He frequently says things that other auto news services, are saying is 100% in opposition to his "claims." He ignores the fact that many countries EV sales are so slow that Tesla, GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota and others have either hugely changed the EV plans or the are on the verge of nearly shutting down their EV programs. The EV world in the last 6 months and for likely for the next 6 months will be contracting, not expanding.
Agreed, until I see this in real life, it's not happening
@@daviddill5227I think you’re being overly pessimistic about the rise of EVs. Yes, currently the growth has slowed, and yes, some companies are changing their - I’d say *emphasis* rather than overall direction, but does that mean EVs won’t ultimately replace ICE? No, I think at most it may delay an inevitability.
In so many ways EVs are (already) simply better than ICE, as steam was to sail, as cars were to horses, and they’re rapidly and consistently improving. Soon I reckon they’ll beat ICE on probably every metric, including price. Leaving only “petrol heads” unconvinced.
Whether you love EVs or hate them, the writing on the wall seems to be saying one thing.
@@229andymonagree. Having just come back from China, they're everywhere. In Shanghai, 60% or more cars on road are BEV.
That’s super exciting you’re going to view BYD!!
If indeed there is this capability then customers will demand an improved grid and politicians will suddenly support it. Home charging will work the same, overnight. Another thing is that gas stations can convert because a few chargers can handle the traffic. They have the locations, are attended (safe) and have minimarts. And of course there can be on-site storage batteries that can charge up at night and dispense amps during the day. Don’t know about the charging cable though.
Will they (BYD) use aerogel (NASA technology) to prevent cold and warm temp problems in BYD's new Battery? Xiaomi SU7 already does use aerogel. From BYD I think. This is the lightest, best isolation material known to mankind, and used in space shuttles. Will we see this in all new batteries from BYD and CATL?
Batteries are going to get amazing it's going to be wild. Meanwhile where is that 500hp gas engine that gets 100 miles to the gallon? Too late.
How old are you…5?🤣😂
Most people don't drive a car with 500 hp, simply because it's not needed. ICE cars don't weight that much.
Very informative and thanks for so much efford
Glad it was helpful!
Electric Viking really needs to address where the power is going to come from if more & more EVs hit the road.
The faster the charging the greater the power demand at the charging point and it is absolutely astonomical.
I agree. I can never get my Tesla to charge at 250kW because there is just not enough power at the supercharger. So there is not a whole lot of point in increasing charge speeds.
Maybe it isn’t for us westerners
@@simonmiller5118 Actually, mostly it isn't the charger that is limiting the charge speed, it is the CAR, the %full the battery is, or the temperature of the battery (hence the reason to precondition). My Tesla Model Y rwd (LFP battery) has a max charge speed of 185kW, well short of what the 250kW charger could deliver.
There are 10,000 companies in the U.S .installing solar panels on private homes and businesses with hundreds or more installed every day. These will alleviate a lot of the load on the grid, and when cheap salt storage batteries come on line, it will reduce the load even more. The utilities don't seem to be concerned about building out the grid. If more is needed, more will be built..
@@ohger1
That's not how the science works.
Home solar can only ever charge slowly.
Fast chargers, on the road, can't supply enough power for fast charging, without a total massive rebuild of every powerline, pole & transformer in the country, and even then .............
Li Auto Mega with CATL battery that can be charged in 10min are already in the market. What's new with BYD??
Sam have Tesla and BYD stocks. That is the reason why all subjects in his videos are always heavily related some how to these manufacturers, even when there is no reason to mention these. He is not 100% objective at all but he can do that of course, this is his channel but it is not "fair" for audience. :)
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Presumably a row of chargers will need a multi-MegaWatt electrical supply, else a large battery of a few MWh to provide a buffer to cope with a range of both intermittent and intensive charging station occupancy. Will the economics of very fast charging mean a further hike in price per kWh, or is faster throughput in vehicles expected to dilute fixed costs and reduce retail cost per kWh ?
But the CCS plug we have in Europe has a max of like 200kw. So we would need a new plug like the NACS to do 600.
Wait another 2 hours and Sam will have another “revolutionary” battery for us. This channel is like a 1930’s Vaudevile show, a new act every few minutes.
Wait! There’s another one at 4pm!!!
@@kallekas8551 Thank goodness. I can hardly wait.
@@ivannavi8154 These revolutions are coming around so fast it’s making my stator spin!🤣
OK, I can't wait until a new battery comes out.
It funny that your head is spinning from all the new tech .. lol
Fast charging is only useful if battery longevity isn't compromised. e.g. Fast charging = battery life of 100k miles wouldn't be ideal.
A new day that ends in Y brings a new battery that changes the entire world.
Blade 1 Battery LFP
Blade 2 Battery LMFP
24% gain by just adding #25
One of the biggest advantages of blade batteries, is the amount of surface area on each cell, compared to the volume. The better heat can be carried off, the higher the maximum charge/discharge rate the battery is capable of. You will NEVER see those charge rates, with Tesla's larger cylindrical cells, because you just can't get the heat out of the centers of the cells.
It will be interesting to see what chemistry they're using for the fast-charging battery. Could it be BYD finally "cracked" the process needed to build a solid-state battery that can be discharged many times but charge to full power in under 10 minutes?
You still need the infrastucture for this fast charging, which does not exist.
or enough grid power for this.
A 10 minute charge uses 6 times the power demand which charging stations don't have. Fast charging costs the customer significantly more.
Good insall in atto 3 now.
Some 6 months ago, you were attacking China and said that Europe doesn't need to import these cheap cars. Glad that you are learning the facts and turning round....even going to China. Eye opener, isn't it?
This to me is great news China is actually doing their own R&D
Since you are going there Sam, could you suggest them to built their own charging network, similar to Tesla?
Like, here in Australia, their cars are cheap right? You have been saying that ad well.
Now, I buy a BYD tomorrow? I don't have solar or my own home to charge. Where do I do it?
If I buy a Tesla, u can go to Figtree shopping center and there are a lot of Superchargers there
Well I hope it will be because their blade battery that is in their current vehicles isn't that good. If you drive on the highway and then stop for charging it overheats and even if not it can only charge at max. 150 kW. Takes ~40min to charge a 85 kWh battery from 10 to 80%
Really would like to know what the range of the new BYD is going to be. I’m guessing like 367 that’s it one more improvement and will have parody with gas.
There will be very very few chargers that can deliver more than 2-300kw - the infrastructure is way to expensive and there will be stuff all demand as there is little point. They need focus on energy density, reducing degradation and getting cost down.
But even at 250 kW, it's possible that new battery can charge from 0 to 100% in just around 20 minutes. That's a huge leap forward compared to most other battery types.
Where you are, perhaps, very very few chargers that can deliver more than 500 kW.
There are many in China.
Of course they'll be faster chargers. The people in charge of the infrastructure certainly think so.
@@Sacto1654 exactly.
What's the point of buying a EV now, if current EV technology is redundant in a years time.
Because it is still far better than combustion engined cars!
if you listen to this guy youll never buy one. in reality significant change takes a lot longer.
We arent far from cars that get twice current capacity, and charge fast ....its coming.... When it does.,... And they begin building charging infrastructure everywhere.... Ev's will take off everywhere not just China..... There won't be any reason to have an ICE vehicle for most
Yes agree. It’s something to consider. But Following the development of mobile phones. We all bought a phone that gets outdated in 6 months. As long as it works and does what you want there is no wrong time.
I agree, it makes for a pretty strong argument to lease, not buy an EV at this point in time. Personally, I have gone the PHEV route with a Honda Clarity and I do over 90% of my driving in electric only mode which is good enough for now. If the hype can be believed, by the time my Clarity is done, the pure EVs will be much more compelling.
6C charging sounds nice, but the existing BYD Atto 3 is only 0.83C no wonder it takes all night to charge one on an 11kW charger at the local shopping centre 😞
CATL have already go a fast charging battery. No need for rumours….just check the facts.
He directly mentions this and others.
Did you even watch the video?
Where will I find a 600 kW charger? In the U.S., households consume 1.2 kW on the average, so this charger would draw as much power as 500 households to charge a single vehicle. I suppose it's possible in principle, but if I can't find 600 kW chargers on my road trips, a vehicle able to charge at this rate does me no good. I often don't get the 50 kW my Bolt will accept at public fast chargers.
In China there are super charging stations just like gas station.
@@mingyudu469 yeah most powered by coal power stations lol
US is an EV backland and will be so in the foreseeable future，so this discussion is not relevant to those of us in the states.
@@qilu2004 it's not relevant to anyone really .. that much power isn't sitting around in locations suitable for a Fast Charger Area, and you won't find more than a couple in one location, if you even find that.
ALL DREAM TALK !
@@alanakafang6143 not most，the majority. And there are already plenty of 5c charging stations there
If these battery packs are not 800v it won't matter as its only 800v rapids that charge at speeds over 100kw. To use the 150 to 350kw rapids it requires 800v battery packs.
I’d wouldn’t put charging times at the top of the battery wish list though. Top should be making them cheaply without impacting quality and function. They still account for too much of the vehicles cost.
Do the three best batteries, CATL, Geely and BYD…not available in the USA..
Great, where can I find a 600kw charger? An EV charging station with 10 stalls will need the power requirements of a small town.
Is it a game changer!
Is this the new SODIUM Ion cells ?
Faster charging is good if it does not depreciate battery future capacity.
If America is involved they think about Profit 1st, the rest of the world think about innovation then profit...
Aaassaia yah
I have just seen a byd!
That's Fast 😮😮😮😮
Wish charging stations could keep up with the new Battery tech.
There is a great big difference between capibilities and real world practices . BYD is an innovator , and will remain so in years to come . I have seen so much reporting about this company that is purely bogus . Here in the US , all the talk is about trying to keep BYD out of our marketplace . What they dont realize is they are alreay here and have been for some time . They build buses and trucks and fork lifts and energy storage units . They do that with a union labor force . They do that with American stockholders like Warren Buffet . .Hopefully this channel will help to educate those that choose to be educated . Keep up the good work .
Company lit is staying 0% to 100% in 10 minutes. This is the real news, no 20% to 80% specs.
Over half a megawatt for one charger. Bend over power grid we’re going to ram this up there.
There has been little to ZERO infrastructure planning for this.
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Great to see new developments but how many 600 kwh chargers will be around in the next 5 years, not many I would think
The "grid" isn't able to cope with 600 kwh chargers.
Jai Hind. BYD always surprises those dudes in National Security and ASPI. Rather than offering WangYang U8 that can only float, BYD should build a cheap Aukus EV that does not cost billions but can dive into the SCS for the 5Eyes market.
So what voltage and amperage is needed to get to an 80% charge level in 10 minutes?
Should be 220v, the standard in china
@@DavidLee-tl1ze That's only for houses.
Oh, that is great, but where are the charging station that can pump out 600kW per charger. Not only that, with let's say 10 cars charging, that is 6 MW, or a small suburb. The cost to get the grid to a state where it can cope with such loads would be astronomical.
And where is the power coming from on a windless night?
Could it be a SSD type blade battery?
Mr Viking, your lack of understanding with anything electrical is mesmerising
Don't need it, just charge at homes because it is far cheaper.
Negative..u so closed minded
You havent been on a long journey (250km+) with an electric car 😌
It is still nice to be able to charge on the road. By the time you go into the station and use the bathroom, your charge is done.
@@tonystorcke u must live in china where u can charge your car in 10 min😂😂😂
Yes, but it could make commercial use as in taxis, buses and delivery vans more practical as you wouldn't have to rely on the pony express horse swap...
Keep in mind that the continuous development of new battery technologies effectively renders battery recycling pointless at this time even though batteries are technically completely recyclable not that we have any infrastructure to collect and recycle the existing batteries to begin with.
If fast charging slowly deteriorate capacity of battery, it is slowly destroying what's most important, the range of car
Hard to believe that car prices might actually decrease in the future. The average consumer will benefit.
it hurts ICE, even motor cycle industries
BYD is a respectable company
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On the fly charging will be a game changer and will bring me back to ev ..for now hybrids are king
Now we just need to rewire the world's electrical grids to accommodate the superdooperchargers.
Don't hold your breath.
Something no one ever mentions. I never fill up ...unless I plan to drive more then 100 miles or so... I am tetired but don't travel much thus I drive an average of 60 or so miles tops per week.... My point is if I owned an EV with decent range and a new battery type I would literally either never need to charge up away from home and if I did i could charge either once a month or for 3 to 5 minutes a few times a month. My point is worrying about charge times at this point in EV technology is a waste of time.
I hear polestar also have a battery that can charge in 10 min.
No, it’s 10 microseconds… Lol
Small battery, right?
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It's unlikely they'd actually be able to fully charged in ten minutes, it's probably only to 80% or something. Just because you can charge at 6C doesn't mean you can charge at that speed all the way to full.
To think that BYD is only ten years old!
Faster charging means public chargers free up faster, charge more cars per unit. Except USA, of course.
600kW is the power draw of over 100 houses, where is all this electricity supposed to come from?
All these news boild down to one thing: "Do not ever buy an EV because tech is improving all the time, killing the resale value down the road".
I'd love to see the degradation stat's on these charging times.
Better idea? Just add a capacitor for quick charging and use THAT to charge the main battery when you are back on the road!
great idea, can you give us the name of the firm who can produce such Terra Farad size capacitor? I cannot find.
Get down the pub like a normal Aussie.
More importent for me is the distans the batteri can do and the price, I want to charge at home anyway becuse fast charge is to expensiv.
I think you means that the battery can be charged in 10 minutes. See the difference?
"Reports have emerged from China....." Love it!
Is it really 6C over the whole charging cycle? That seems unlikely. Probably it's a 6C rate early in the charging curve. Edit: Oh, I see you talk about this later.
No battery I know of can maintain max charging rate for very long. Things MAY change though, but I doubt it.
6C batteries do not charge in a sixth of an hour the BMS will dial this back considerably.
600kwh charging sounds great. But think about this: 10,000 w per second transfer. This is equivalent to 41A per second @ 240v. This isn’t exactly something compatible with the current charging infrastructure. It may require batteries to work like capacitors and that would mean at least 5-10 years before you can use this technology practically. 😂😂😂
Maybe I am wrong but I think the problem with ev is battery longevity , buyers want to know if they look after there car they would like it to last a 15 years , just like a ice car of the last 20 years + , people are worried if a battery is gone at 10 years there car is absolutely worthless
Most people charge at home, we're much more interested in how far we can go on a charge and at what cost