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My pops told me to exaggerate the movements during traing/drills because in sparring or in the fight everything is gonna shorten up.
Vincent M. Small yet potent observation
Great tip
Yup, the same principal i abide by
If you exaggerate your training you may not able to bring out your full power in sparring u better drill those shorts punches at the same time.
Vincent M. That’s true! 🤔
Don't sweat it coach. Quality over quantity!
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Yes. Cannot be overstated!!
agreed, I was taught to pivot with my punches but without being told by my coach I realized its unrealistic to throw 3 or 4 quick punches while pivoting with every punch without being off balance. I problem solved through trial and error and found I can only load up and turn my foot in on the last punch of the combo, tap tap tap then load up and step in. Turning in the knee slightly still produces force from the legs and hips, i think thats what canelo does slight little knee turn ins. Thanks for this video
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If you throw a combination of 3 to 4 punches and you're in the same place or your feet are in the same place, pivoting will make your punches or combination of punches slower, you're right about that one! However, if you step with each punch and when the foot lands it lands in a pivot position then your combos will not be slower. For example, 1-2-1 or jab, right, jab. If you take one step with each punch thrown, the second step which will be for the 2 or the right hand, you will step with your right foot inward (technically pivoting while you're stepping forward. If you throw a 1-2 and a left hook. There is a step with the jab, you move your back foot forward and step in a pivot position when you throw the right hand and you take another step with lead foot again stepping in a pivot position. We're assuming that your opponent will not stand in front of you and act as a punching bag. In close range quickness is not such a factor so being a millisecond slower isn't really worth it unless you're shoe shining and when you shoe shine you still move your feet, however, this time they go up and come down in the same place.
exactly how i feel body momentum and really rotating that trunk and keeping legs planted for those power combos. Muay thai and boxing. You do see high level strikers like adesanya pivoting often but thats on controlled sniper shots from distance.
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Couldn’t agree with you more sir, and I teach the same to my students as well.
Appreciations for sharing your insights with all of us, an honor to be able to learn from someone who is as skilled as yourself.
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I think it's a great idea to exaggerate the fundamentals like "putting the cigarette out" on crosses and hooks and "pouring out the glass of milk" on the jab and piston retracting it back to your ear. But in real action especially when the opponent is strong too in the 1st half of a fight or sparring, these movements have to be shored up. But if you find yourself walking the opponent down, then I think you can really pivot more and sit down further on those shots to take them out.
Exaggerated movements in all sports is a great tool to help remind young or older student athletes to remember. As those reminds become less and less as they improve as coaches we no longer need and they athlete no longer need to Exaggerate ....
One whoooole year of questionning myself and my different coachs (sometime contradicting themselfs), summarised in 10 min... the teacher appears when the student is ready, they says 😊
I completely agree. It is important to pivot but not during each punch in the sequence. Also, it’s important to understand that pro fighters have developed twitch fibers and muscle memory that may not require them to pivot AS MUCH to deliver the same output as an inexperienced fighter. Great video coach. Welcome back and congrats on the TF win!
Mamamia!!!! I never heard someone as good as coach anthony!what a training coach! Hope i see you in person. I want to train my son the way you train your boxers.. Nice one coach!! Keep on teaching, GOD BLESS!!!
It’s so nice to listen to such rational explanations for what fighters do instinctively. This truly is the teacher’s job.
At the end of the day this is a matter of transferring torque from your lower body to your higher body. Depending on the speed, power and reach you want to apply to your punch(es) you might need to twist a lot, a bit or nothing at all. And of course you always need to maintain balance.
Hey Coach Athony, definitely agreeing with you. Pivot is to also maximize power with twisting the hips for a more controlled hook uppercut or a straight right. Plus it feels more natural to bob and weave after a punch or a punch combo. 👍
I agree. I've always taught people that, ideally, they should pivot. I do have a habit of just turning my knee in during faster paced sparring though. The fact remains that the upper and lower body both twist though. Good stuff sir.
When I first started boxing I was taught to pivot on the left hook, but my coach explained that it was just to make it easier for my body mechanics to learn to shift my weight and turn my waist with my punches, same as Anthony explains here. Once you get that body motion down, you don’t need to still pivot for the left hook so long as the waist and trunk goes with the motion of it. On the right hand though, I couldn’t imagine not pivoting on it, happens naturally when you throw it correctly. The only time your right hand shouldn’t have a pivot is if you’re throwing a pop shot
Perfect Explanation Coach! 🎉
I say both!!! Plant on 3 or more punch combinations. Pivot on 2 punch combinations.
@a as A good coach will teach His fundamentals, but He must always let a fighter develop His own style and play to HIS strengths. I think a lot of coaches want to teach all His fighters to box like He did.. Even if He was a world beater this is not correct. You are your own person and must apply your strengths and work on your weakness
Great video. I teach knees aligned [with hip engagement]. If you line your knee toward your target your power is magnified and hips are naturally engaged. So the pivot makes sense to teach how to rotate. Spine rotation can also add a lot of force [particularly for close hooks]. I'm not a fan of the "heel out" method as I find people miss the point and get stuck in glue or they over rotate.
At higher levels things get smaller and more compact while retaining power, but the principle is still in effect.
Thanks again.
I feel pivoting fully transfer the punch in and even sets up the next move ,making it flow more fluid
Pengg Vang you’ll hit harder too
If you want to make it smooth, yeah.. like left, right, left hook. But what if you do a tripple jab. Its not universal you cant always pivot
imostliked nobody pivots while using a jab 🤦🏾♂️ lol
imostliked you CAN always pivot dude. You can’t pivot when you throw jabs but if you’re throwing a straight or a hook (your jab hands hook), you can pivot.
@@futurehendrix1186 powerjab, fullrange I kinda pivot
This is some of the most useful pieces of information on boxing I've ever heard.
I’m training to be a boxer i have done for 3 years so far and have a shot at the Scottish title and I watch your videos religiously keep the great content man
Good luck
Did you win that shit or what
should i pivot or no?just be in control.dont think like beginner-this is bad or this is good...just be in control,that's the answer to pivot or not to pivot
I am the striking coach for Team Demon MMA and have created many champions. I am with Coach Anthony on this especially for a beginning fighter. Teaching a new fighter how to rotate the body for power can be challenging. I used to use the exact same words to describe the rotation of "putting out the cigarette" Though effective, the problem I ran into was what I like to call turning the foot for show. . Meaning no real friction between the foot and the floor is taking place, the fighter is simply just rotating on the foot because coach told him to. When really, when I am teaching this technique I am trying to teach the fighter how to use his hips into the punch and not so much the foot. What happens is the foot is just turning and no real power is added to the punch. I have since started getting my fighters to focus on the idea of feeling their hips.. If you are on the ball of your foot and you turn your hip, the foot will naturally rotate. If it is a power punch I always like to explode the hip first a moment before the punch. This in my opinion creates a more powerful punch. If you are a fighter or a coach you probably have run into this problem.. Teaching hips to a fighter can be one of the most challenging things to accomplish.
On the other hand, after a fighter has learned to use his hips I begin to shorten the exaggeration of the hip and foot rotation unless it is a power punch. As Coach Anthony pointed out it can leave the fighter off balance. I also shorten the movements because the longer the exaggeration of the turn, the longer it takes to throw your next punch or get back to your base position. This can hurt your defense and footwork as well .
Great debate and topic Coach Anthony, these types of tips are what Boxing is.. Being great is always in the small details.
Coach Ant is the best analytically and fundamentally, that's why I deal with him.
I agree with you , must pivot and sometimes the "step and pivot in the last shot" is equally important
Hello Anthony I watched recently dozens of Mike Tyson videos and sparrings. And the way I see it he only rotates the foot on the right hand rest of the times he just rotates the hips as you explain. And I tried it, it's wonderfull because it saves you a lot of time.
I believe the other coach you were referring to is coach Tom Yankello and he's absolutely right. He has a whole instagram series based on common misconceptions about how the body's kinetic chain works in Boxing. Academic scrutiny at this level is desperately needed in the sport. Great video.
6:58 this is what my kick-boxing coach teaches us. He’s always emphasising the pivot and when sparring or doing drills, it feels so unnatural and puts me off balance especially when going for the 1-2-3 and pivoting on the cross and hook, I don’t generate power, as well. Great video, subscribed!
Highly underrated content right here.. The breakdown of the difference between the preparing for action and the actual fight was invaluable.. Perfectly explained..
Once again Coach A. great job and keep me coming..
Totally agree! We have fundamentals to build off of, this is the core. In a fight things change and we adapt, but we should still have these core fundamentals.
Its seems like pivoting helps you to get in tune with delivering that added power.
sometimes you pivot sometimes you don't depends on your intent, the heat on the punch the tempo, or if you're setting up other traps
Pretty much perfect answer. You do both given the situation and desired outcome, that's why it's a never ending debate because both are correct given the situation.
I've been wondering about this for awhile because most pro boxers don't do a lot of pivoting in their fights. It seems like it slows down your punches to pivot on every punch.
It does and takes away power. But it allows you to be lighter on your feet so it depends on the style you fight.
Welcome back mate!
I've been doing boxing for a couple of years now, and I've been taught not only to pivot when throwing a cross, but also to straighten my leg too so as to extend as much as possible. But not overextend my whole body over my front foot, so as not to be thrown off balance.
This explanation was incredibly helpful. My first coach was a legit boxer. Old school Russian coach who trains Olympic athletes. He says you don't need to pivot as the step is enough if you're doing it right. However,y new coaches are telling me to pivot and it got me wondering about this disconnect of information. Thanks so much for clarifying.
Step is better. If you master it you can punch at every moment moving forward backward, side to side. Also stepping is faster look at Pacquiao or seanchai.
I believe I know the guy who's being referenced here, we've chatted on the same martial arts forum. His style of coaching comes from the Soviet/Russian tradition, which looks at basics and movement apparently a little bit differently than the American one. Nevertheless, the no-pivot argument is essentially this: Your power leg for the front hook is your front leg, and you want to push off of it in order to shift your body behind the punch. However, in order to pivot, you must pre-emptively DE-load the power leg, so you are pushing off under less tension and power than if you had the leg heavy and firmly planted throughout the hook. You can try this by putting almost all of your weight to one leg (or even standing on one leg) and trying to make the pivot from there while keeping the weight over it - the sole of your foot will experience a lot of friction while trying to turn and your knee will almost cave in under you as you are not relieving your body weight to your rear leg. So instead of thinking pivot-knee-hip-shoulder, you only consider maximizing the weight transfer from your front leg to the punch without obsessing over individual body parts.
The Soviet tradition actually begins training basic punches from a squared stance, and you learn the weight-shifting principles from that posture. Having learnt the basics in a symmetrical stance like that might actually contribute why Eastern European boxers are so proficient in switch-hitters.
Hey coach, can you do a continuation to that vid covering how fighters such as Canelo sit down on their punches?
Great video coach. I do believe that pivoting is important because you don't only save your knees from injury, it is also a great way to automatically throw your weight into the punches.
Teach the pivot....train perfect to leave room for natural regression.....you dont train the regression !...ur explanation was great !
You always drop the best videos on boxing u always break it down perfectly 😍😍😍
Pivot pivot. Coach i got it...pivoting shifts the weight of your body to Maximize punching power sounds logical Y'all will do Thanks Coach here a year late but still present Keep the knowledge coming...
What I’m basically hearing here is pivot for power... more power, more pivot. This was a fun video. You did well pulling it all together....
I agree 100%. Greetings from Germany
@Coach Anthony. Can you please do a video on jabbing/punching while moving. Kinda like a jab,pivot at the same time?
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I agree. I pivot more on the back leg but step more on the front. I rarely just turn my knees but im gonna give it a try.
I know what I'm doing for a warm up tomorrow, much love dude.
Great video as always. I have to say the pivot has really helped my lead hook as a rookie. Tended to be a total arm punch, but just working it in shadow boxing my hook has gone from comical to bad to middling. I'm going to keep training so keep up the videos.
Coach Anthony, my blessings on your exceptional knowledge in the Art of Boxing.
From my experience it's a 50/50 situation with pivoting the heels when throwing out the punches. If you are sparring, there are some opponents who are good at reading your technique. Then there are fighters who can't see what happens when you pivot and punch...
For mobility training I always consider hip and foot movement to create fluidity and flow... End of the day, if you are a pro fighter, you will have adaptation and apply tactical movement to beat your opponent.
Training is training. Explore, learn, experience, fail and then succeed
Agree coach!
The transfer of weight to the opposite leg of the arm you are punching with is what creates power in a punch.
This is biomechanics.
Look att baseball, and spear throwing, and all the throw based disciplines in the olympics.
Everybody transfers the weight from the opposite foot of the hand holding the spear, ball and so on to the other foot.
To do that you have to pivot your feet to create rotation in your hips witch leads to rotation in your upper body and turns the shoulders.
To do that you have to pivot.
Thank you for taking the time to put out another amazing video.
I was told to but I’ve found out that the pivot is only a que to remember to turn your body into your shot, so I don’t see it as what you have to do but it does help the less experienced boxer remember what to do.
Wonderful video once again! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Coach I saw a powerful puncher only slightly rotate his feet when I first joined my gym. Thanks for posting this and answering a question I've had for months. Subscribed
Cause you stay more grounded while punching and are able to deliver more power. This debate will go on forever because both people have points but the truth is if the best fighters on the planet don't do it and the hardest hitters don't do it then i guess that answers the question doesn't it.
Another great video! My opinion is that once the fighter is a professional or an adult who has had success in the ring, they develop bad habits such as not pivoting. It is true that you can turn your hip and knee without pivoting your foot and still generate good power. There are 2 problems with not pivoting though. 1) For the straight right hand, it will travel about an inch shorter or you will have less of a reach with that punch if you do not pivot the foot and 2) When you're not turning your feet in but just the hip and the knee you place too much pressure on the knee, and it could definitely result in a knee injury. However, when fighters become adults and successful they forget about foundation techniques such as the boxing stance and footwork.
I generally turn my knee in, but I remember reading that Joe Frazier trained his fighters not to pivot on the hook. A fighter should learn how to do everything. Good video.
Hey coach! I just wanted to make known, I’ve been told both, but I got in the habit of not pivoting and had been arm punching the whole time. I had a lapse in training, and tried to get back into boxing over a year and half ago and ended up throwing my back out. I’m still suffering with back issues today having to wear a back brace every time I go somewhere, I’ve been to multiple chiropractors. I just want to say thank you for making this video and to advanced and beginners start out using the pivot till your body is fully strong. Just remember yes we punch using the upper body, but boxing is a leg sport. And just hitting with arm punches affects your back and in not a good way so be careful.
Ayo! Coach Anthony glad you're back with a little sumn sumn. I want to request a video on switching/shifting. When you have time, that is boss dog. I feel it's a completely lost art and although I'm an infant in the sport i can hold my own in sparring shifting into my punches and also to escape getting flurried. It catches fighters COMPLETELY OFF GUARD espicially when incorporating hard fast pivots... (i should mention i fight Southpaw but right handed... it doesn't feel different orthodox or southpaw so my request may be a bit special)
Mike Tyson used shifting to add lots of extra power on the rear left uppercut and rear left hook after shifting to southpaw when in the pocket
Shifting is not a lost art - plenty of pros do it - but it is a risky tactic when you're facing high-level competition. Pretty soon you'll come up against someone who'll spot you stepping over or forward to change stance and counter you smack-bang in the middle of that movement. That often means a trip to the canvas, and this is why most fighters who do switch (Crawford e.g.) don't do so mid-round - they fight in different stances in different rounds.
For 99.9% of us out there, switching is a bad idea. Period. End of story. Don't do it. If your name is Marvin Hagler or someone of that bloodline, then switch hit. But if you even have to ask about being coached up on switching, I can tell you that's a bad bad bad idea.
Appreciate the feedback it's all taken into consideration.
No doubt. I teach it as a maximum and minimum movement in the technique. The maximum is the full turn, the minimum is a slight turn. In a fight anywhere in between is ok.
The beginner goes to the maximum and the pro shortens them up. Great topic, thanks for sharing!
God bless you Coach A. You are a bad ass at what you teach !!!
We’ve missed you!
Not defending the other guy by any means but sometimes things are lost in translation...timing is everything and if you pivot your feet to early you lose a link in the kinetic chain. Most natural athletes do and feel it naturally, it’s the real young kids and average person that finds it challenging.
When energy is transferred correctly everything is stable and powerful, if you lose one link in the chain you put more stress on the body (joints/tendons/ligaments) and lose tons of power.
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It is the hips that creates the power. The pivot is a precursor to every Boxers basics
I was taught right of the hop to pivot. It allows your hips to rotate easier to generate more power. It also give you more range on the hook and cross. Correct me if I'm wrong. But pivoting allows you to "sit down" on your punches. When done correctly, your balance is maintained and will allow you to hold your ground if you were to take a shot. Not pivoting leaves you more "upright" and top heavy after throwing the punch. I feel this could leave you off balance and allow your opponent to take advantage of the situation.
Good stuff as always!
What's your take on sliping vs parrying punches for counters?
Hip rotation is a must....which usually results in a pivot. Also, drawing force from the ground through the leverage created in the pivot adds punching power without much additional strain or effort. As for the balance issue, a "kickstand" balance rooting one foot while pivoting the other is important. That's why practicing slow and relaxed is necessary to develop "feel" and proper mechanics before speeding things up. Good video Coach!
I think explains a good point that I have a hard time getting across to people. Sometimes you do drills that look nothing like what you do in competition because they teach your body a proper motion a propper muscle memory that is far from natural. In this case the muscle memory is to turn the knee in to create power. However, after you teach someone to squish the bug when they are learning fundamental punching, once you add realistic footwork into it, there isn't going to be in bug squashing. But it's always good to warm up and cool down with things like squishing the bug, kissing the shoulder, and all the fundamental movements.
Good video. This reminds me of how in karate you're taught to pull your non-punching hand all the way back to the hip. That's just IMO a training tool to teach them to turn the hips and hit with power. Eventually you get he same feel while actually keeping the off hand in front of you like in boxing.
Awesome video;this was extremely helpful!!Thank you for posting!!
Excellent tutorial , I always thought you had to pivot fully on every shot , but this clears up a lot of things
Basic's are everything, when second nature shortcuts can be achieved.
Great explanation Coach Anthony. Thank you! So good to see you back on top form. X
The longer I box and i mean sparring bag work and particularly shadow box which was initially a mystery to me!..the more I get out of this content and the comments!!
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I don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer because it all boils down to the individual, scenario, effectiveness and results!
Sparring and live combat is the only true way to measure the results and even then, it still comes down to the individual.
I was going over this with my coach when we were talking about using phases and he mirrored what coach Anthony said!
Love your videos, coach. I like a quality video more than anything on boxing.
Thanks very much coach, great video... myself being quite a beginner at punching, i was having so much pain on my wrist punching crosses, that i even thought i have a weak wrist but thats not actually the case... later on discover a little trick of pulling my left hip back, automatically sends the right hip forward giving the exact same effect as pivoting... punching with proper body positioning, less injury...
Awesome. The other day i had someone ask me to give them some pointers on pivoting... i told them don't worry about it too much, and not to give it too much emphasis. I told him focus on shifting the hips forward or back. This includes repositioning the knee, like you said, and the pivot should happen naturally.
In the fight situation, worrying about if youre pivoting haha is a setup to slow you down. When you're throwing fast combos you are just not completing a full pivot, because you mad decide you want to evade a certain way, the foot positioning plays a critical role in that.
Love you videos coaches seem to be a intelligent fighter & coach. Now I do like pivot when I'm throwing my left hook. But that's more of a situational thing cuz I'm not going to throw a left hook in space (in the middle of the Ring) if I'm throwing my left hook I usually have my guy cornered or he is against the ropes where I know the consequences is going to be small. Now there was a coach I had that taught me to dip the knee a little bit when you throw the hook but I never liked that I was always more comfortable with the pivot
I'm feel'n the Farmer shirt coach, joint is official!!!! If the Farmer fight happens with Davis, I got Farmer wining by decision.
I think it depends on your personal biomechanics. Some people generate their power from their core. They keep their feet planted and twist their core. Some guys are leg dominate and generate power from pivoting. In my opinion you base your fighting style on YOUR physical attributes. Good informative video. Y’all doing good work with Tevin. I love watching dude fight.
Ive always taught and been taught to pivot but I definitely remind people that its not ALWAYS necessary. Sometimes it just wont happen(especially under duress). But I absolutely prefer the step-pivot like you showed in the end(primarily when trying to set up a certain shot thats going to be the one landed with max power/effort)
This video is gold
Yo coach. The way it was explained to me: we lose 50% of our technique under stress. So if we exaggerate and fully express our techniques in training then much more of it will remain when we fight. Love the videos, coach !
thanks.awaiting for the comeback.
Coach, I don't see a lot on the inside game of boxing (is when your nearly face to face)... What to look for, how to defend, strategy's to dominate. That's a video I'd love to see.
Just found this channel. Subscribed. I just hit the bag for some extra cardio. Hate doing cardio on machines. Trying to get better foot movement
Amazing as always, Coach Ant! Returning and undisputed on the internet 100%!
before I started boxing I use to do that automatically its feels better I haven't box in years but I box over 10yrs when I was younger and that's correct coach
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the fists with the back arm require the use of the pivot in general, the hook and left upright (on the left guard) do not need as the hip is already biomechanically opened. in combinations of multiple punches I usually don't see pivoting.
Thanks Coach Anthony. Good stuff. I use both. Yet almost always pivot punching with the right hand. The left hood can be different with the weight being on the front leg. Yet definitely more power when you pivot and transfer the weight from leg to leg!
Great instructional video! I wish your gym wasn’t so far from me. I would love to have a trainer like you.
thank you coach
If you slow motion the videos you can see that top fighters do use the same body mechanics but with more subtlety and snatch the foot back to on guard stance just like the snatch their punches back to on guard
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Agreed, my trainer taught me what you showed in 7:00, I call it BS.
I know it's for training to turn my hips ,but overcommitting a punch is dumb.
If you overcommitt a punch, not only do you lose your balance, you also made yourself wide open and vulnerable to your opponent , it's like telling them
"Hey, I'm kinda stuck at the moment here, I'm open for ya to take a free shot"
Man, I need to get myself a legit boxing coach
Pivoting is part of the fundamentals and technique that you must practice so the entire movement will become second nature. In the heat of things the movement will be shorter and more subtle, but backed by sound technique.
Cracking vid Coach, glad you’re back.
I wish coach can see my comment I'm a self taught boxer but when I was younger I did karate I was 5 and trained and I quit when I turned 12 and went straight to boxing so I understand completely the pivot is training tool my trainer taught the same thing and proper hip rotation so when I went to the boxing gym caught up very quick
Quality info. From personal experience, with rotating the leg inward and not pivoting, I developed some tendonitis issues on my trailing leg. I have to pivot. Not everyone does though.