Why Sr. Natalia Became a Nun | Pints with Aquinas Episode
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- In this episode of Pints with Aquinas, I chat with my dear friend, Sr. Natalia, who is a Byzantine nun. We talk about what it's like to be a religious sister.
WARNING: In this conversation, we get real, real quickly.
If you're a young woman discerning God's will in your life, then this conversation is ABSOLUTELY for you. Or if you're someone who just loves conversion stories about people radically loving Jesus, then you're going to LOVE this episode.
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Biggest misconception people have about nuns ... go!
That they are not happy and are old and mean. But they are beautiful with beautiful souls
That they go there because they give up on life in the world. An escape, so to speak.
Escapism. They isolate themselves and don't engage with those who need to hear the gospel. This is a big misconceptiom as I am a protestant so I've had very little contact with nuns.
That they only choose this vocation because they aren’t likely to get married :/
That they're ugly
Nuns don’t need makeup because they have Christ as their foundation.
Ha haa, that's a good one!
HAHA!
😂
Got eem lol
This is lit!
I know this video is a year old but I love it. I am a 35 yr old cloistered nun of 12 years and undergoing fierce temptations to leave solemn vows and return to the world. I know deep down I won’t but on the surface I feel so agitated and don’t want to pray or be at community exercises. If the community of this channel could pray for me I’d be so grateful. I also have terrible health and that makes it worse. I promise all of you my prayers as well. Sr Gemma Rose
Praying specially for you Sr Gemma Rose
How is it going Sr Rose? I will be praying for you
I am doing better. Thank you all for your prayers. We all hit rough patches in our vocations. I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis and it had me in a depression. But I’m ok now ☺️🙏🏻
Continued prayers even now. May God strengthen us all in our vocations!
Sister Gemma, I'm glad to hear you're feeling better
Sr. Natalia’s comments about not being married or having a family was gut wrenching and amazing to listen to. How she discussed talking and listening to Jesus was awesome. God bless her. I loves nuns.
Yeah! I really felt that 😢💕
i had an interior ugly cry...it was pain and joy for Sr. Natalia. Thank you Sr. for praying for the world.
What a waste of life.
@@svetlanabarrow6026 what an unnecessary comment...
@@konyvnyelv. courage to do the right thing. Courage to be a good parent not just a parent.
44:26 "I'm not an eloquent person".....uhhh ok Sister - you've said some of the most powerful things about vocation that I've ever heard
Literally
I can't handle this! I too grew up Catholic, was apathetic towards it till i was 18, was agnostic till 20, had a reversion, was a serial dater throughout college, BECAME A MISSIONARY AFTER COLLEGE WHICH WAS CRITICAL IN MY DISCERNMENT TOWARDS RELIGIOUS LIFE, after visiting convents I have discerned that that is my vocation and now I too am a teacher! (For Regina Caeli)
I might not fully understand Sister's pain... As she is a woman.
Yet even now as a very young Priest I can say it truly hurts!
Jesus never leaves your side, even when you can't feel it. God bless Father
You are a hero
We are so grateful for you! I hope you find comfort for that sacrifice.
If you feel like that why are you a priest? Just another career choice?
Yes true but if it's the Lord directing, you should be good. May Not be easy living either way. Best to follow God's direction.
33:51 "The tears from that pain water the soil of the garden of Gesthemane and it bears fruit"
Hearing Sr. Natalia talk about her struggles was so helpful and comforting! I am discerning a religious vocation and I have struggled with everything she talked about...I am coming more and more to the realization that a deep desire to be a wife and mother is actually the foundation of a truly fruitful religious vocation...we are all called to be wives and mothers in some way. The interview gave me much peace as it seems to confirm what the Lord has been putting on my heart.
I feel the exact same way.
Me 3!
Me 4.. I always imagined to b married & hav a family.. since it hasn’t happened th desire still persists.. I never ever thought to b a nun.. but to be single forever feel obscene to me.. being a wife & mother is to me equivalent to being female.. & being a foster parent on my own doesn’t feel true to me.. plus not having met a proper man.. I’m blown away by th thought & yet feels totally natural as a very appropriate option.. i.e. next step. (Do any of u ladies hav leads as to how to proceed?..).
Feel free to email me: gloriadc@yahoo.com.
@@gloriamariadc7757 I was listening to a talk last night about Christian marriage & a question was asked @ the end of the priest--what about single women waiting? What are they to do? He lamented the situation in his own parish saying how many wonderful women were unable to find suitable husbands, that it is indeed a growing problem in our society (for many reasons). He encouraged them to remain at home with their family meanwhile, if possible, or to live with other women as opposed to living alone (which he said can set a woman up to live alone for life). The monastic life used to be much more visible in society also, so men & women explored that option far more than we do in this generation. I never thought about it before either, but I realized who my life actually belongs to, & I've been focusing on growing spiritually above all. To that end, I would say if you haven't already, find a good priest & seek some spiritual direction in counsel with him. Perhaps visit a monastery on a retreat to get acquainted with the life first hand. Pray. I know that a religious vocation isn't what we are all called to, but there are steps to take in discerning this. Again, I think talking to your spiritual father will be the way to start exploring this possibility. God be with you!!
@@lorraine5800 Thank u for this reply. Super appreciated. Yes.. single women in the church end up feeling like lepars & outcast (or just not belonging).. clinging to ways of being of service. I totally agree w staying w/ one's family.. but there's many of us who are older in age (over 40) who live alone & our families are in their own situation, &/or don't lead a life of faith.. I've lived w/ women but hav had the same challenge that they don't want to talk abt faith.. for that reason I live alone. I definitely will do what u said re: getting a spiritual director on this & pray about it specifically on what God's wish is for me. Thank u.. & yes I hope to look into retreats at specific convents. Many blessings to u as well Dear one!
Her level of spiritual maturity and honesty is amazing, God bless her journey
27:14 That is a magnificent point. Reminds me of a somewhat related G.K. Chesterton quote: “Feminism is the muddled idea that a woman is a slave when she helps her husband, and free when she serves an employer.”
erravii that quote is an anathema to the ideology preached in every public school and university in the west
That's a criticism of capitalism, not feminism, GKC. I'm sure he knew, because he was not at all in favour of wage slavery. Of course when he lived conditions were very different.
That does fit the view of feminism today. What sound wisdom that is.
Not all men are th same to marry (or work for).. A woman can leave a bad employer but not necessarily leave a bad husband.. very different.
@@ritawing1064 Yep, it was a criticism of capitalism, but also a misunderstanding of feminism.
Feminism was never pro-capitalist.
I'm a seminarian from India. This interview is one of the honest interviews I have ever seen. Sr. Natalia is bold and humble..I wish to imbibe these qualities from her... God bless you sister
I know Sister Natalia. we’ve been family friends for about six years and I live a few minutes away from that monastery too. Good stuff
CodingCrusader1095 Ight I gotchu
I’ve known Mother Theodora since before she was Mother Theodora (as Sr Natalia prudently avoided saying her pre-Mother name, I’ll avoid doing so here, too🙂). I had just recently moved to Pittsburgh, and we met on a bus to DC for the March For Life. As soon as she found out that we lived in the same neighborhood, she invited me to come over and hang out at any time, saying, “I would be honored to be your northern mom!” (I grew up down south)
Eventually, the bishop decided to close down the church where she lived, which, as rough of a situation as it was, I truly believe that it was a huge stepping stone for her eventually moving to found Christ The Bridegroom. When she moved for her temporary stay in Uniontown, before the Parma bishop at that time invited her to build a monastery in his Eparchy, I helped her pack up her things.
I spent at least two ChristmasesChrist The Bridegroom monastery, though before Sr Natalia came. It was such a remarkable thing for me, both just the joy and gift of spending Christmas with such beautiful and holy nuns, but also as I was a struggling Catholic at that time, not going to church consistently, and finding myself neck deep in sin. I have memories of having very open talks about the pains in my life that made running from the faith “‘make sense” to me, particularly with Mothers Gabriella and Theodora.
I have now been back in the faith for about 4.5 years, and my memories of their hospitality and compassionate, non-judgmental patience with me at that point are so important to me.
I’ve been debating commenting on this but here goes. I was never taught anything but marriage as a kid. I grew up in a baptist household. We acknowledged God and went to church but that was it. I eventually and recently found my way home. (I was confirmed on the vigil of Pentecost) this video spoke to me, it was almost as if I myself were asking Sr. Natalia the questions myself. Many of the questions I had, this video answered a lot of my “buts” or rejections that I had about being in religious life. I just wanted to say Thank You this video is a gem for me and other women alike.
Welcome home, and best of luck with your daily conversion and discernment!
Welcome home may the lord bless you 🙏
Keep praying and keep going with Jesus.
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You can feel her happiness and contentment. Low key one of the best interviews I’ve listened to on your program Mr. Fradd
Her whole energy is vibrant and beautiful. The rapport in this video is brilliant. One of my fave vids to date.
Hey Matt! Your work is helping me a lot. When are you going to talk to Mathew from the Ten Minute Bible Hour?
This would be fantastic
@@mattboyer7466 - TOTALLY agree, Matt!
Y'all Be Safe!
Great suggestion
I agree!
It was really helpful to hear her express an intense anguish due to her vocation and I empathize with that anguish. My girlfriend and I recently separated-she felt as though she was incompatible with me and that she was a bad girlfriend-and the anguish I feel is...I’m not intelligent enough to articulate it with any eloquence. It feels bad, basically.
The futility of it is what is most striking. It wasn’t a fault of my own which caused the breakup, at least none that she vocalized, and it was purely a matter of how she felt. In retrospect, I greatly respect her for being able to express that, but I still feel crippled by the entire ordeal. It’s like someone took a piece of metal rebar and smashed my shins. But, whenever I heard Natalie speak, especially about how painful her meditations about married life were, it helped me realize that I wasn’t alone. More still, it gave me hope that there is something to look forward to and that there will always be a lingering sadness which tinges the peripheries of our lives. That isn’t a cause for melancholy, though. It helps us understand the love of God and the enormity of His Incarnation. It helps us appreciate God and authentically and truly worship Him!
What’s important is to recognize that life is work, but it is also joy. There is a time to suffer and a time to dance.
I’ll always love my ex-girlfriend. Maybe I’ll never even pursue another woman. Maybe a priest. A celibate monk. Maybe I’ll fly over to Nigeria and become a servant of the people there. Maybe her and I will try again one day. No matter what happens, I’ll suffer, but I’ll also dance.
Blessings to Natalie. She is more strong than I could hope to be right now.
Wow
I watched this interview and was reading the comments, read yours, felt sad for you. I pray and hope your are doing OK now and you are in dancing phase. ✝️🙏❤️
This is an incredible woman, unbelievably beautiful human being. Thank you God for her sacrifice.
Why, just why it should be a sacrifice? It should not be that way. Every woman born to be a mother.
@@konyvnyelv. that’s not what I meant. No need to twist my words around. I was not talking about Catholics (anyway I think this sister is from different Christian denomination . I admire men and women who choose that path, but as I woman my heart breaks for them for missing out so much. But I also believe that they make an informed decision and think it trough very carefully before committing to God. Not sure what you mean by catholic’s demanding sacrifices. I never meant that and don’t agree with that.
I was the college student who found you on the ground after your seek talk!
Exellent episode. Sr. Natalia is just adorable... and that smile, oh boy😅. Thank you both for your openness. Greetings from Finland.
Are there Catholics in Finland?😂
@@joelmontero9439 some, but very few. (And I'm not one of them, yet) The Orthodox church is a state church, besides the Lutheran.
@RC Journeys 👍Moro!😃
@Tom Harry Finland has had small Tatar (sunni muslim) minority since late 1800. They integrated well.
Now, especially after the 2015 migration, we have several different ethnicities of muslims. "Not all" integrate well.
@@mikkis668 are you converting yourself, or just friendly with Catholics?
And, the Orthodox Church in Finland is a state church? Like the Finnish Orthodox Church?
God bless this woman.
"I don't know what it's like to be a nun. I've never had the chance. Because the Church is sexist!" Oh my goodness, that was the laugh I needed! Thanks, Matt Fradd.
Sri lankan catholic church is holy. We are proud of it. But what about the European and American church?On the other hand mass attendance of young people is so high. But i think now Europe is irreligious and madness is among young people. They go behind knowledge in this world.
What a beautiful and raw interview. I felt for sister’s pain in not being able to have her religious vocation and the vocation if marriage. I guess I always assumed sisters didn’t want marriage and kids.
They are very wise, they Marriaged The Greatest Perfect Husband, and, yes they have kids ! lots of kids, all Consecrated lives through Mary became Spiritual Mothers of humanity, A grace!!!
Married men and women , can join any community becoming 3rd Orders🙏❤🙏
I think Christ places the desire to be bride and mother in the heart of every woman, it is just fulfilled in differed ways through different vocations. She is just living the eschatological reality now whereas the marital bonds of a husband and wife end at the death of one of the spouses. I LOVE that Our Blessed Lady was daughter, virgin, wife, and mother...such beauty and what a model for the Church and all women especially.
As a nun can I jump in? I knew from age 9 I was going to be a religious. When I was in high school I used to imagine my wedding day but try as I might to picture myself walking down the aisle, the only man I could possibly see waiting for me at the end was Jesus. I knew I couldn’t give it away to anyone else. He already had it from such a young age. And when I made my solemn vows and walked down the aisle on the arm of my father, it was Him waiting for me.
The cloistered nuns in the Roman rite live in monasteries, while the active orders, teachers, nurses, social workers live in convents. My aunt (deceased)was a Sister of the Visitation founded by St Francis deSales and St Jane DeChantal and lived as cloistered nun in a Monastery. Another aunt is in a teaching order, Oblate of St Francis deSales, who lives in community in a convent if it’s a traditional order.
Loved this interview. Very down to earth!! Before I got married, I considered being a nun at some point, but I'm happily married now.
Fr Gregory Pine & Sr Natalia show us that joy that comes from being espoused to Christ. Its so beautiful witnessing their joy.
Sr. Natalia is an absolutely beautiful woman.
I was religious growing up but I've kind of been struggling to connect with my faith in the last few years. This was an amazing and meaningful interview. She made me look at being a nun and celibacy so differently. She's so real and believable. She wasn't preaching anything and yet made me feel so good ❤️
Prayers for your faith.
Take all of your struggles, difficulties, questions to God!
There is some kind of cloistered Nun community in LA/Hollywood. My Aunt bought some of their cookies once. They were super good! That sadly is my only experience with Nuns. There is so much pain and sickness in the world...We need women like this.
Felt this so hard on my heart, I´m cryyyyying
Ahhh!!!! My son worked at Walter Reed when he became an EMT in the Army! Also, I became a nun because I got divorced and my kids saw my Vocation before I did...I am one of the 7 Sisters lay concecratated! God bless you dear Sister 😇🙏 love your ❤️ holiness!
We need to hear your story!
theticoboy agreed!!!!!!
@@konyvnyelv. I wondered that also
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
Me too.
If I were a young man again, this lady would probably have broken my heart. Great Interview and the right person in the Son of God has her!
JUST BEAUTIFUL! Sister Natalia YOU are beautiful and real! Thank you.
She looks like an actress i forgot the name, so pretty🥰
wOw. Sr. Natalia is so inspiring! Her story and conviction yield wisdom every serious Christian can use. I'm a protestant evangelical who is unashamedly getting sucked into this channel. Perusing the many great comments, it's such a nice crowd, too. Thank you!
Fantastic interview. Sr. Natalia is so relatable.
I’m so excited to see this!!! I’ve got stuff to do atm, but thank you *so* much! (I’m an 18-year-old, planning on joining the Church this month, who loves to dream about possibly becoming a sister someday. In reality I don’t know what my vocation will be, but am so eager to listen to her story. God bless you both!)
Finally watched...so so good!! It was very helpful. Thank you!
@@Hope-fj4ep have you officially joined the church?
@@GuadalupePicasso Yes I have!! Thank you, it’s been amazing. I actually got to quickly meet Mr. Fradd too, haha
@@Hope-fj4ep awesome, and welcome to the family! I got to see Matt give a talk in Manhattan last year, and he also attends a Byzantine Catholic Church where a friend of mine is the pastor!
Hi, I’m very interested to see how you’re doing and how your vocation is going
She's so likeable and wise. Really enjoyed this one. God bless Sr. Natalia (and you too Matt)
Shoutout to Dr. Beth (Heaven forbid I call her that in class!) who is a wonderful teacher and a great witness to holy living as a single woman. She has been a great teacher to us seminarians at St. Borromeo and St. Mary's Seminary in Cleveland.
@Matt Fradd, This was probably the best episode I've seen. Very insightful and felt completely genuine.
Great stuff, man.
Peace from the UK.
GOD Bless both Matt and Sister Natalia, that they are so content in their chosen life. I am 83 year old cradle Catholic.Have had 12 years of my life with Nuns in both elementary school and high school back then at much earlier time. But Lord watch over both of these I am listening to as they are so happy in their lives -Blessings to them! Amen 🙏
i still think about the sisters who taught me in elementary school as well 🤍
Its a beautiful interview Matt Fradd, Sr Natalie remind me of late Sr Clare Crockett... Was also thinking her habit esp upper part looks like Burka 😂 ...nice reply Sr Natalia....There are many but only few are chosen. Praise God for Sr Natalia ,may She continue to be a blessing wherever she goes...Beautiful reminder of Getsamane prayer 😍
Matt! I was at that SEEK conferences where you were sick! Your talk was great. I’m actually in the process of becoming a FOCUS missionary right now. Cheers and thanks for all you do. God bless you!
YEA SISTER NATALIA! YOU GO GIRL
Mother Natalia, I'm comforted by your saying that not having kids and not having a husband feels excruciating. I am 40 with no kids and no husband, and practice continuously giving my life to God. Sometimes it still feels excruciatingly painful to be without these things. It's a great comfort to know that I'm in good company. Thank you for being so honest.
I almost cry whit this interview, and I don't know why.
men don't cry but real men do. see what I did there?
Not tryna be superficial, but..Matt Fradd is rocking the beard!!!
Also, I loved this episode. Sister Natalia's simplicity and honesty shines forth, as does Matt's!!
Ana , its a normal for women to feel that way, just like a man acknowledges a beautiful woman , God bless 🙏
Thank you to Sr Natalia for being so open, and honest. : ) and to Matt for a great episode!
Sister Natalia is a fantastic woman. Thanks for this conversation, Matt.
I must say, the beard looks Glorious Matt! Loving 'Pints with Aquinas', especially these long talks - Sr. Natalie is wonderful. Thank you for sharing!
You both could have your own podcast together. I could listen all day. Thank you both 🙏💯
Totally.
Love the vulnerability. You're a great interviewer, Matt.
Along with the interviews with Fr. Gregory Pine, I think this interview with Sr. Natalia is among the best you've done - I hope we will get to hear from her again. Thank you so much, Matt!
So happy for you my dear friend little Sr. Natalia... aka little Vicky. You are such a great blessing and know you are all in our prayers back in Denver.
P.S. told you so
Sister Natalia, God is never wrong as he is the truth always keep in your heart his words, " Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given." ❤
OUT....STANDING interview. So raw, real and also faith-filled. Thank you for it.
Thank you for your show. I have never considered religious life but I am thrilled and thankful that others do and often wondered why some do. Sister answered that question for me.
Sr.Natalia I loved listening to your spiritual experience. I loved your natural expressions and response. I have a lot
1:38 You learn a lot about a person from their bookmarks!
Matt I love the honesty and vulnerability you bring into your content! It’s so helpful, and comforting to not feel alone.
Sister Natalia was very compelling and beautiful! Full of great insight.
Thanks for making such great videos.
I'm back here a year on to ask if we can have Sr Natalia back on again!
Totally true about prayer: intimacy, not only petitions. 😍 Evident are your loving holiness and honesty and teaching, Sr. Natalia.
Beautiful. I have learned so many interesting things today thanks.
Amazing interview, great insight into the monastery life. Sister is such a lovely, beautiful, honest, dedicated person! God Bless!!!
You are both really cool!! I am a protestant but love the devotion and commitment!!
Such a beautiful catholic woman! Awesome!
Matt, could you plz do a talk with a consecrated virgin? Yesterday (May 31) was the 50th anniversary of the reintroduction of consecrated virginity and it’s such a beautiful vocation!
Yes! Matt I know a few! I'm going to be consecrated in October (God-willing!) but I know several CV's that would totally talk to Matt.
What's a consecrated virgin?
Can men be CVs?
Chayan Roychoudhury Absolutely!!
@@gloriamariadc7757 where do I search?
"...this marriage is God's will for her, at that point [...] Once I make that commitment, i can now be assured that this is God's will for me. Once you two are married, that IS God's will." What a BEAUTIFUL thing to say, and so reassuring...It warmed my heart Thank you
Beautiful and inspiring sister. May Our Lord Jesus bless her as she grows in love with him.
Wow sister this was the most profound and open interview I've ever heard. Discerning right now. Thank you!
My dearest sister, you discounted a few times your eloquence and intellect. Yet, I remained glued to your speaking as it touched my heart and fed my scholastic intellect. Today, I will rock you gently in my prayers.
Levis Shalom
27:10 Sister clearly articulates the confusion of the godless towards the sacrificial life devoted to Our Lord.
This is so beautiful and helpful!! Thank you so much!!
Matt you have to have her back on the show 💯👌
Great job, Sr. Natalia! (From the mother of the person you had to wash the walls for!)
Great interview!! Thank you both
This is wonderful, thanks for making this available
Totally true about prayer: intimacy, not only petitions. 😍
You're right. Intimacy! I insist a lot on that. I insist to have perfect love for God not just an imperfect one. I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
That was such an awesome and insightful episode!! To hear her pain but also her deep faith in her journey - WOW! I am watching this 2yrs after initial air time, I wish to say thank you Mother Natalia! You dropped some great insightful bombs. Thank you PWA
What a beautiful interview! Thank u both so much💚💚💚
This was so cool. Thanks for the insight and the honesty.
Thanks so much! Great discussion!
Lovely interview. Thank you, both. 😍😍 And those profound comments about the spiritual warfare tactics are awesome.
This was amazing! So beautiful, and moving, and answered things I always wondered 💜
This was just marvelous! Thank you!!
I really enjoyed your chat today!
This interview was incredibly beautiful! 👌🏼 The way that you talked about the struggles and sacrifices that you make on a daily basis is not only inspirational but so insightful! ☺️
Great talk! God bless everyone!
I really enjoy this conversation so much! I will take this with my whole heart ❤️
Loved this, both of you!!❤❤🙏🤗🤗
Truly excellent show! Helped me so much.
This conversation was so beautiful, one of your best (yeeeet)
Watching this makes me so proud of being a patron of your show, Matt. Please keep doing great interviews like this with holy, and also humble, Catholics. God bless you and thanks for all the great stuff you do!
This interview was wonderful, and she made me laugh many times, which was extremely needed. 🥰 💛
I am delighted to discover sister Natalia.
Thank you for sharing your journey with us.
Ok I’m crying listening to her talk about wanting a family 😭 how incredibly touching.
Great interview! thankyou for sharing your story, Sister. I am currently discerning my vocation and this is just very encouraging and inspiring. God bless you Matt for all the grat content you put out, I´m happy you didn´t die from coronavirus btw, I prayed for u!
Amazing talk, the best episode that I have seen in this channel. Looking forward to hear her speak on your channel.