Can't help saying, this was one of the best videos I've watched in a long time. I hope everyone I know gets to watch this. Any possibility of getting highlights of this talk, part by part versions of this video that I could share with friends who wouldn't probably want to sit through 1.5 hrs? (I personally wouldn't mind sitting through this multiple times). Would it be copyright infringement if I did it myself?
Alan Rozario A lot of what was said in this video were actually summaries from his book, UPON THIS ROCK. Everybody should read that book. It has all the footnotes and detailed research that supports all the points made in this video.
What Steve Ray said is so true. I was a Catholic who became a Protestant for a long while. One of the pastors in the congregation that I was a member of in Northern California had a disagreement with how he interpreted a Bible verse with several of the other pastors from this church I was attending and after a year or so, he left that church and went to another one that agreed with him. I am now back to being a Catholic with a much stronger faith. I love my Catholic Faith with all its faults for there was one thing this pastor who left told me that led me back to Catholicism. At the time I became a Protestant, he asked me why I left being a Catholic. And I said it’s because of certain priests who aren’t behaving as they are supposed to. And he told me never judge the church by its leaders for they are people too. And as he left the Protestant church I was attending , I realized that I was in the right church all along and should have just stayed Catholic despite the errors of its priests. Now I am Catholic again and will remain so til the end of my life.
Am catholic having sabbath friends when we share reading, they come with more questions, I not know wether they are prepared so, but all looks to harsh to me. But even though I give the verse, there interpretation is different and wick, no strong faith, like they reject cross of Jesus, and say we have Idols, yet Jesus died on the cross not new things we produce. And 1 Corinthians 1:18-19,god say cross is my power. But they don't understand. They throw away power of God which is cross. They don't read the Bible though they read but only for competition no humbling in the work of God
I'm Roman Catholic from infancy. I love Protestants and I thank God for them. During those times when I felt lost or apathetic in faith, the wonderful lectures of Protestant pastors helped to enlighten my mind and rekindle my love of God. I just let the parts where they criticized the Catholic Church and practices go over my head, like water going over the waterproof feathers of a duck. I thank God that I held on all these years to the conviction that I'm in the right boat of salvation. May all devoutly believing and seeking Protestants find their way home.
As a Protestant (probably on track to become Catholic) this was so informative and an intellectual/theological feast. Blessings to Steve and you, Matt.
Nathan, look into the "Coming Home Network" (Chnetwork.org) as they have hundreds of videos of Protestant (and Othodox) pastors conversions to the Catholic church. Jesus founded one Holy Catholic church and He said, "the gates of hell will not prevail against it." Jesus created one church, not 40,000 denominations. The Catholic church has the succession of Apostles-- where every Bishop can trace his lineage back to the original Apostles thru the laying on of hands --as every Pope is the successor of Peter, whom Jesus declared the rock on which He will build His church. Us 1.3 billion Catholics rejoice for the day you come home to Rome.
Don't believe the likes of Lane Cobble; the early Eastern Fathers held a very different view than Eastern Orthodox do today: Read what the early Eastern Fathers believed about St. Peter and his successors in Rome. www.fisheaters.com/easternfathers.html Does the Orthodox Church predate the Catholic Church? www.catholicbridge.com/orthodox/does-the-orthodox-church-predate-the-catholic-church.php Two Books I would recommend reading: Ending the Byzantine/Greek Schism:(By James Likoudis) circulosemiotico.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/james_likoudis_demetrius_cydones_saint_thomas_bookfi.pdf RUSSIA AND THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH (By Vladimir Soloviev) www.strobertbellarmine.net/books/Solovyev--Russia_Universal_Church.pdf Lastly, Eastern Orthodox deny Purgatory; but what did the early Eastern Fathers have to say? practicalapologetics.blogspot.com/2013/07/early-church-fathers-on-purgatory.html
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂am sorry for laughing..am laughing at all this you getting..am catholic and I will not pray that you become catholic..I would pray that the holy spirit guides you..Nathan🤗🤗 welcome home
@@t.l.ciottoli4319 Luther was a Catholic monk, too. He studied and left the church for what he thought was a more correct faith. Name specific reasons and points of differences between the two, not the fact that someone left for Orthodoxy. I myself am still recovering from the post Russian Orthodox Communist scars and curses. Can a nation poses and practice the true faith and be taken over by a murderous atheist - communist regime? In the OT, Israel always failed first to practice the way God asked them to, then God gave them into the hands of their enemies. Babylon captivity - 70 years. Russian Communism - 74 years. If Russia got Christianity right, why were they the first to become a communist regime and to murder millions of people in the name of their ideology?
Having been born in a Baptist home, son and grandson of well meaning holy Baptist Pastors, I must admit that this interview has made a big impression. Many important theological points.
Matt, I came Home to the Church just about a month ago. I just found this interview today. What a blessing! I can't wait to get Steve's books to share with non-Catholic friends and family. Also: come to Budapest and celebrate the traditional Latin Mass at my church, a beautiful Baroque house of worship suitable for celebrating the Holy Eucharist!
He is not a classical theologian but is so well studied, mostly on his own initiative. As such he is so refreshing as an excellent apologist for the Catholic Church! I really like Steve Ray!
This has been very helpful. My friend asked me to make a defense of the papacy and this video right here is a massive resource. Definitely gonna be giving Matt more views on this video.
@@Tom-kk1zu that's not helpful to assert "it's filled with errors" without getting specific and giving evidence for your assertion it is just posturing.
amazing show Matt and Steve having seen the Popes list in the Vatican to have meat put on the bones of history by Steve a truly enthusiastic Catholic convert absolutely beautiful thank you
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
Great video!! Steve is one of the best teachers, if not THE best teachers out there when it comes to the Catholic faith. He makes things understanding to everyone !!
Matt, it would be great if you could get someone from the other non byzantine eastern catholic churches. It feels like they are always left out when they are just as much important as any other. God bless!
Great talk Matt, awesome to see steve on here. I really really appreciate what he says. Greetings from New Zealand.🇳🇿📿🙏💕 I love my Catholic Faith! - chur!😊👍
I loved this video. I just happened upon your channel and I love it! I am a lifelong Catholic and your videos teach me things I never knew. Can’t wait to watch more videos. ❤️
Same here, Shari Limbert! I too am a lifelong Catholic, but the Holy Spirit infused a desire in me to learn more. Some of these were to answer Protestants that I knew who were spouting inaccuracies or lies and to be able to explain to my children who are no longer practicing Catholics what they left. I began an intensive learning process of the Catholic Church 3-1/2 years ago, and I am deep in Church history with videos and books by apologists and taking courses from an assortment of Catholic entities each day. There are so many great Catholic channels and Catholic apologists, many of whom were Protestants, and Steve Ray is one of the best of what I describe as, blue-collar converts! His knowledge of the Bible resulted from his evangelical background and his incredible research into the meaning of so many scripture-related subjects. The meaning of the "120 names in the upper room" is a notable example.
Great guest. Solid Catholic but still holding to the good aspects of the Protestants, especially their attention to the Bible. We Catholics need to get back to that Bible !! :) Well done Steve !!
"We Catholics need to get back to that Bible !!" Well said. Thanks to Wycliffe, and King James I of England (both critics of Romanism) who broke the door open, you now have a multiplicity of excellent English Bibles, not Latin, to study for yourself. One of the many reasons why the Middle Ages were the Dark Ages.
@@AndrewRAMontgomery That is why my friend Jesus tells us about the Holy Spirit the He will be our interpreter of the Bible. (John 16:13) I do not doubt that the Holy Spirit will not talk to us and tell us what every verses of the scripture means. I never read anything Jesus saying that when I'm gone go to Peter and he will interpret the scriptures for you... do not read the Bible for you will not understand it. Yes Peter says it is hard but he did not say it's impossible for the Holy Spirit will guide us into ALL truth.... I wondering why Steve Ray doesn't know John 16:13... probably he's not asking the Holy Spirit to interpret it for him....
@@ramonagustin9023 Ramon, By your comments you expose irrationality and fanatical thinking. It shows you know nothing of the Catholic Church. I ask you: Do you know who, inspired by the Holy Spirit, gave you the Bible? ▪︎ANSWER: The Catholic Church ▪︎WHEN & WHERE? Beginning with the Council of Rome of 382AD, Through the Decree of Damasus, the 37th Pope, successor of St. Peter. I ask you: Where did Martin Luther get authority to decide what and what not to teach? ANS: NOWHERE! I leave you the words of our Lord which confirm the existence of ONE CHURCH and no other. MATTHEW 16:18 18. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build MY CHURCH, and THE GATES OF HADES WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT. How many churches? ONLY ONE! Jesus promised: ▪︎MATTHEW 28:19-20 19. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20. and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, TO THE END OF THE AGE.” IN CONCLUSION: The Church founded by Jesus was never to be divided in a "Protestant" way, nor was it founded on a non existent Bible but on men throughout the ages, constantly inspired and guided by the Holy Spirit to know and teach ALL TRUTH in order to remain ONE CHURCH, just as JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE: ▪︎ JOHN 17:17-23 17. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you have sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, so that they also may be sanctified IN TRUTH. 20. “I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word, 21. that THEY MAY ALL BE ONE. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22. The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE, 23. I in them and you in me, that they may become COMPLETELY ONE, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. God bless your journey.
@@joecastillo8798 The scriptures was written by many people, some inspired by the Holy Spirit, some instructed by God himself from the beginning... the first written Word of God was written by God himself to the tablet (10 Commandments)..... until God instructed them to write it.... Now the Bible is just a translation of the original text where the scriptures are originally written... translating to other languages doesn't need inspiration of the Holy Spirit...in which the Bible is considered as translation...
Not all division is bad. There are some things worth dividing over. If you render Christ's atoning work as insufficient unless you practice x number of "sacraments", that is worth dividing over. It is not the gospel given to us by the Apostles. I can call you my brother/sister in Christ if you trust his atoning work as sufficient for your salvation, but you like to wear a dress when you preach. It is not my preference, but it doesn't preclude us from joining together. I will even join you in your fight to protect babies from an abortionist's scalpel. No problem. But, if you deny the sole efficacy of faith, and seek to attach as conditions to my salvation the doctrines and commandments of men, we will not be in fellowship. It is YOU who left the faith once delivered to the saints, and thus your responsibility to return. John 17 is your call to return.
It's all so confusing to me. Both sides have valid points. They will know we are christians by our love. If we love God with all our mind, body, soul and spirit AND love our neighbor as ourself, we are obeying the commandments. I was raised Catholic but came to personal faith in Jesus Christ at the age of 20, 40 years ago in a non-denominational church. I'm drawn to Catholicism and trying to learn, but I get confused with all these arguments. One thing I do know, LOVE is the key. May the Lord be merciful to us all.
John Donahue I could do it myself but I really don’t feel like typing out every single argument so I’m just going to leave these here: shamelesspopery.com/where-is-the-papacy-in-the-bible/ www.google.com/amp/s/churchpop.com/2017/08/28/where-the-papacy-is-hidden-in-the-old-testament/amp/
@widjajaa what John doesn't notice about the Scriptures regarding the local church hierarchy is that it doesn't end there, simply because of who is writing to them about how to set up their lical heirarchy: an Apostle. An Apostle who visits, establishes, and wrotes to many church communities, so that they all remain in communion with each other. So yes, there is multi-community oversight going on. Just gotta look at the context behind the text.
Matt, I understand the desire for goodwill between Catholics and Protestant. But come on, how is “Protest”ant not inherently anti-Catholic? If you protest something, then you are against (anti) the thing you Protest - in this case the Catholic Church. Let’s not downplay this. Even Protestants understand this since there is far less friction between all the Protestant sects than there is between Protestants and Catholics.
@@redimerfortitudo Thanks mate. First of all, not all Protestants know why they are protestant. They may remain with their respective community while looking upon Catholics with indifference or even see Catholicism as one viable strand of Christianity among many. Secondly, there is obviously a difference between A) non-Catholics who are such because they disagree with some or most of her doctrines but who see much or at least some merit in Catholicism and B) non-Catholics who are such because they also think Catholicism to be a positive evil upon society and/or Christianity, are you really going to lump both into the category of anti-catholic?
@@pintswithaquinas Your first point is the most important. Most protestants are blatantly unaware of history (speaking from experience). I'm still technically "protestant" with no protests, and I plan on moving towards Rome. The major factor was history. Specifically the 1st century jewish contexts of the OT and NT. Pair that with the Fathers, and you find the best argument for Catholic Christianity. As I mention historical data to friends, they are AMAZED that so many "weird passages" have a rich, true, and deep meaning when paired with History. It explains the Scriptures, and also shows why the early church was Catholic. Most of my friends are hungry for more information like that. Then, they are satisfied, albeit surprised and shocked, to find Mary's perpetual virginity, the intercession of saints, the continuity of Apostolic Succession with jewish rabbinic authority going back to Moses, and Sacramental theology!
Steve Ray was one of the former Protestant converts to Catholicism along with Scott Hahn and Ken Hensley that I encountered "accidentally" or maybe with the infusion of the Holy Spirit 3+ years ago which gave me the desire to learn more about my Catholic faith. He and the others as well as new apologists on the scene have widened my knowledge of Catholicism!
Hey Matt, I came across the app Hallow through one of your videos in the past when you spoke about it. I must say, the app is beautiful. There are some really amazing features - one that I really like is the calm nature of the "Sitting in silence with God" session on prayer. Oh and btw, great work on getting Steve Ray on your show! One of my favourites! :)
Wonderful educated discussion, full of constructive dialog. Excellent work for our Catholic cause and very interesting, I'm sure, to our protestant brothers. God bless you both!
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
Great show Matt, I love Steve he's awesome he talks whit so much enthusiasm 🖒 I really think that people say that there are confusion in the Church just because we have internet 😂, I mean I love history and I study Church history for interest and love and I hope one day become a historian, but the Church has always been a mess, I recently was reading about the "Avignon Papacy" and the "Western Schism" I mean that was a total mess people, and was much more confusion that what is happening now. And after that was the "protestant reformation" and before all of that was the "East-West Schism" and the "Iconoclasts" and the "Arrian Heresy" and the "Judaizers" in the time of the Apostles, and all the schismatics and heretics and persecutions, and the bad Bishops and Fathers and Popes and lay people... What Steve said is true, there has not been a Golden Age of the Church, we've had good people and Saints and bad and evil people, all Catholic generations have their own problems but we know that the Gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church that our Lord established, He will be whit us until the end of times. We are soldiers of Christ we should not be afraid of confronting the problems of our own age.
Finally, a comprehensive and in depth answer. Now I have something serious to consider. I tried asking Catholics about it, one insulted me thinking I was a protestant troll. Most couldn't give me a convincing answer and misquoted scripture. I find it sad that so many professing Catholics go on sinning and have no idea what the Gospel is really about.
Sorry you had to go through that. Not all Catholics are like that. The church is full of sinful, imperfecr people. But still, wgat the Catholic church teaches is true and makes us happy!
@@juliankonkani Well….Catholics are in a better position because Jesus started Catholic church. Protestant churches started by men. No salvation outside the Catholic church.
@@johnyang1420 Here is where I'd like to correct you. Protestant sects aren't Churches. Churches have apostolic foundations and their bishops / priests carry apostolic succession. The Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Nestorians are Churches. Protestant sects were founded by men. They are Ecclesial communities, not Churches. Avoid saying Protestant "Churches" because that gives them legitimacy which they don't have.
Steve Ray's talk about the Keys, the Rock, and the Chair is great! Something to add to Matthew 16: when Peter declares his revelation that Jesus is the Christ, he gave an infallible declaration given to him from God above, leading to Jesus changing his name, and giving him the Keys. Truly Amazing!
As a protestant, the case for the leadership of someone like a Pope from Peter on down seems quite strong. I can also see how that might be helpful for local churches to have a leader to unite them. It has also been refreshing and eye-opening to hear that Catholics don't have as extreme beliefs as I thought, and not just for the Pope, but also in regards to Mary. The thing that still trips me up (Pope-wise) is the infallibility of the Pope. Even when it comes to the (very) specific and increasingly small situations where a Catholic might say that a Pope says something that is infallible, I see no reason to believe that is the case. Does anyone have any biblical evidence for papal infallibility (not authority, but infallibility)? I think the belief that the Pope can announce dogmas and doctrine that cannot be refuted later on biblical grounds could and has led to errors. For example on the Immaculate Conception, where it seems biblical gymnastics and reliance on early-ish church leaders have to be called upon for support.
John 21:25. Besides John 21:25, many divine secrets are not fully revealed. You need to think way back before Jesus was born. The miracles in old testament are so many and as mind boggling, proving that no one can understand the span of God's power. Now, imagine what God the Father had in mind when He wanted to have the WORD to become human being to dwell amongst us. What kind of a woman that deserved to be the WORD bearer? You know the WORD is holy, one being with the Father and Holy Spirit. He certainly deserved someone holy too to stay in her human womb. He needed the blood and flesh from a holy woman. Because He is from heaven and there is not a slighest stain of sin could be permitted in heaven. What is impossible for God? He created Adam and Eve SINLESS in the beginning. It is not out of His power to have one immaculate woman for His only Son. Water and oil cannot mixed. A super Holy Word could not have stayed within ordinary unholy womb. ===== Luke wrote a beautiful story of Jesus' birth. It would not have bern possible if Luke had not sit down with mother Mary and listened to her attentively. Could Luke have known something else so divine but not revealed in his gospel? You bet. =//==/// John took care Mary after the crucifixion. Mary and John would have exchanged lots of stories on Jesus. It is no wonder that John could write such a heavenly gospel. As he said in John 21:25, what else besides Jesus that we modern people dont know but were revealed to first christians?
@@jamesm5462 Thanks for replying and giving me something to think about. What would Catholic tradition say about the woman who carried Mary in her womb? Why would she not have to be holy/sinless as well for Mary to be sinless? In response to this statement: "Water and oil cannot mixed. A super Holy Word could not have stayed within ordinary unholy womb." I would agree if Jesus were simply fully God. But Jesus was fully Man as well, so I don't know that there is any reason to believe (outside of the Catholic teaching) that there is anything special about the literal blood and flesh of Jesus. If Jesus had received a blood transfusion (I know, silly example), he would still be the Christ, son of God, and Son of Man. Obviously, God could have made Mary sinless, 100% agree that is within his power. It just isn't necessary or supported in scripture (from what I can see). When we talk about what Jesus deserved for a mother, we get into interesting territory. Thankfully, Jesus didn't come to earth to get what he deserved. See Philippians 2:5-11. He deserved better than to be born in a stable, but he humbled himself. He deserved better than the life of a carpenter, but he humbled himself. And he didn't deserve to be betrayed and to die on the cross, but he humbled himself.
there is one question that Protestant brings it up that If Peter was in Rome why none of Paul's letters to Rome church mentioned of Peter as a leader there or even there is no greeting to him. Thanks
Naira Thomas - Peter mentions he was in Rome. 1 Peter 5:13 states "The Church here in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark". Babylon was a well known code word for the City of Rome. At the same time, persecution by Roman authorities of the followers of Christ was rife and the apostles never 'explicitly' wrote down where they went - only Paul but this does not lessen the power of the apostles' message. There are other clues too. In his Letter to the Romans (A.D. 110), Ignatius of Antioch remarked that he could not command the Roman Christians the way Peter and Paul once did, such a comment would only make sense if Peter had been a leader, if not the leader, of the church in Rome. There is also archaeological evidence which tells us Vatican Hill was covered with early inscriptions attesting to the fact that Peter’s remains were there. That is why St Peter's is built where it is - over the tomb of Peter (whom The Emperor Nero had killed. Peter chose to be crucified upside down, because he felt unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus Christ and that is why you see an upside down cross in the Vatican today, in honour of Peter's courage and martyrdom (and nothing to do with being satanic as some claim - out of ignorance). Hope this has been helpful. God Bless.
@@tony1685 brother, I'd strongly suggest curbing your pride. You can disagree with Steve Ray or Dr. Hahn all you'd like, but to call them "biblically illiterate" is just dishonest and false. Don't forget that "everyone who exalts himself will be humbled."
@@tony1685 whether that be the case or not, scripture commands us to give our defenses with "gentleness and reverence" (1Pet 3:15) You are doing neither. I commend you for your zeal for what you believe to be the truth. In my case, the more I learned about scripture, the more I was drawn to the Catholic faith. And while I'm certainly no Steve Ray or Scott Hahn, I'm far from "biblically illiterate." I'll pray for you, and I'd ask that you please pray for me as well.
@@tony1685 Jesus said, "unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven" Children are obedient, they believe, they have faith, they are resilient. There are battles only God can fight. We are called to be humbled. He died for all of our sins.
As a Protestant I just want to say thank you for this video. I haven’t finished the video yet; but I do want to just make a statement about something the Guest said. In Protestantism; I am not my own Pope. That is more an attitude of Baptists and Non-Denominational Christians. Presbyterians listen to their Pastor; and what their Pastor says is true. Now we obviously have questions sometimes and will talk to our Pastor; but I am never going to leave my Church because of a doctrinal disagreement; my Pastor is always right. We know; in concept that this can’t be true; and he has to be wrong about something’s; but we don’t know what those things are, so we submit to him on all things. Just as my quick impression of the Early Church; there was freedom in their Early Church for disagreement. You see Jerome disagree with Augustine and Augustine disagree with Cyril and Cyril disagree with Clement, etc. So I find my Pastor (and by proxy; me) free to disagree with others. Who is the arbiter of Faith; there is a sense that everyone is by proxy of their Pastor; in the sense that we have Guard Rail. We have Guard rails through the creeds and confessions; and if you go outside of those guardrail your soul is in danger. This is why I see Catholics as brothers and Sisters; and when I disagree with them; I try to remain peaceful because they are completely inside those guardrails. I think you will find most Protestants see Catholics as saved but wrong. Now back to the Video to see if our guest can convince me.
We can see successors in situations all down through history. In Europe, where many of our fairytales were spoken/written, we have available to us just how a hiarchial kingship structure works. In the Bible , I see a position such as a "right hand man", a "Steward " , or a "Vizier" , when Pharoah gives full authority to Joseph to look after all of Egypt. Joseph got a special ring, a special robe, a special head dress or crown, a throne, and much more. I see this in Isiah. I see this in Ester... Hamen was Vizier to the King and when he was found guilty and was hanged, Mordecai, the cousin of Ester, was given the position. The Jews were very familiar with this kingship structure. The apostles knew Jesus as the King, the true King, the one and only King. So, they would have known and expected a position such as this. Through our fairytales and other stories/movies, we can see this structure. Examples are, Jafar was the Vizier to Jasmine's father. Lord Denison was the Steward of the Gondor, until.........wait for it...... THE RETURN OF THE KING!!! When Jesus returns, we will no longer need a Pope.....a Steward, or whatever you call this position. When the king went to war, or even just traveled for any reason, this person, the Steward, took care of the kingdom. Often, this position stayed within the family. If the Steward died, his son could become Steward, and so on. This, however did not happen within the Catholic church, except during an ancient period of corruption. Even when "bad" Stewards, Popes came into office, they still came into office as direct successors to Peter. They are still human. They are also sinners. Some became disillusioned, but never did they teach from the chair, error. All in all, it makes such logic sense to know and understand that Jesus, being the King, would have set up this system amongst His people, simply because there needs to be harmony with a leadership. Remember, Jesus prayed, "Father, let them be one." There would be chaos within the Church if we had been left without leadership. This is why the Protestants live in such chaos. If they don't get along, they leave and start their own church. This is why there is over 40,000 protestant denominations, yet, the true Church, the Church founded by Jesus Christ, Himself, is still ONE. ONE, after two thousand years, One.
Excellent video I watched until the end. I didn’t know of the actual physical historical location of Mathew 16. This helps in the understanding of those critical verses
Steve Ray has a series of talks on his website that are super cheap. These talks helped bring down many obstacles I had about coming back to the Catholic Church after 10 years in evangelicalism.
I was shocked when I started finding out about Martin Luther. Shocked at him, and shocked at Protestants for never talking about any of it, and then act like the bad thing about him was his opinion of Jews.
He was a rabid anti-semite. To be fair there were many Catholics who were the same and thought of them as Christ killers - the result of poor catechesis.
I was raised in catholicism and realised it was antisemitic. Don't believe me, well Jesus was Jewish, His initial disciples were Jewish and most of the writers except one were Jewish.
I'm 30 minutes in and really enjoying this, but I had a thought that might help. Since words, and our perceptions and associations with them, are so important, I think we should say "discovery" instead of development. For if the deposit of faith from Jesus, the apostles, and Moses and the prophets contains all the fullness we need (in the cabbage) then we are not developing anything (like we created or constructed it ourselves apart from God) we are merely discovering or uncovering it as we grow and develop in our faith. So it's not the faith or the truth that develops, because it's already complete in Christ, but rather us who does in discovery with it, Him, and each other. In Christ, Andrew
Totally agree, but they chose "develop" by design. For Romanists, the deposit of truth continues to grow after the Apostles. So therefore, in their minds, there is additional truth that grows. Cf. papal "ex cathedra" statements and encyclicals. Tradition is elevated to the same place of honor and obedience as inspired, canonized Scripture. The problem is, there is no basis for this elevation. It is a man-made construct, and is not endorsed by the Holy Spirit beyond what is contained in the Scriptures. We have everything we need there. "3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires." (II Peter 1:3,4) It's through the GREAT AND PRECIOUS PROMISES that we can participate in the divine nature. Not a pope. Not a bishop. Not a priest. They can't promise you anything, because they are men like us. Build you life on the rock of Jesus Christ. Anything less - the doctrines and commandments of men - is sinking sand.
@@Elevator2TheTop Amen brother, well said. I just learned about the equating of tradition with Scripture last fall before going to a vocations weekend at a seminary. My questions and disagreement with that was not met kindly before I went, which is why this subject is of interest (and concern) to me when I heard about Aquinas. I'm still trying to get through the Summa from Aquinas that I got from the library about a month ago. It's very tough to read and follow, especially after hearing how it was given second weight to the bible. It's like reading math proofs that dissect God and bring him down to our level instead of us seeking to be elevated to his. We are told in the New Testament to go amongst other people and their cultures the preach the Good News, while explicitly being told not to become like them. Aquinas seems to be promoting the latter by bringing God down to an atheist and humanistic viewpoint and understanding. If creation, the natural law, the Bible and the prophets are not enough for them then we should shake the dust off our feet and go to others who might listen. Casting our pearls before swine in a manner that works on their playing field is too much like becoming like them. Seems to be highly dangerous for our faith and wrong according to both the old and new testaments. In Christ, Andrew
@@Elevator2TheTop You have it backwards. Sola Scriptura is a man-made construct. And your "develop by design" theory applies to protestantism from its inception; ever evolving and changing, breaking with the previous group and formulating another alternate teaching based on personal interpretations of Scripture. While for Catholics, the deposit of truth doesn't continue to grow in the sense that it is different than what came before; but that a deeper understanding of that revealed truth is presented. Unlike protestantism there is no "additional truth" to Papal "ex cathedra" statements and encyclicals, which are meant to safeguard that truth, and to clarify that truth. St. Paul himself regarded Oral Tradition to the same place of honor and obedience as inspired, canonized Scripture:Traditions “delivered” (1 Cor 11:2), “taught . . . by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thes 2:15), and “received” (2 Thes 3:6).- not by letter alone! An extensive study of Paul’s word usage show some very interesting things: *Colossians, 1 & 2 Thessalonians, Titus, and Philemon neither mention “Scripture” nor cite the OT, and Philippians doesn’t mention the word and makes just one OT citation.* *In Ephesians, the Church/Tradition ratio to Scripture is 18-6; other books are similar: Philippians (4-1), Colossians (12-0), 1 Thessalonians (5-0), 2 Thessalonians (3-0), Titus (4-0). Would any sola Scriptura advocate have predicted such an outcome before studying these words?* Not likely . . . The problem is, there is no basis for sola scriptura. It is a man-made construct, and is not endorsed by the Holy Spirit nor the early Church. And who is the arbiter of what Scripture says? You? Me? or the thousands of differing sects who all use the same Bible and claim the same Holy Spirit and yet all interpret the Scriptures differently? You claim, "We have everything we need there." *yet I bet you can't find a detailed, word for word instruction as to how the early Christians worshipped? What prayers did they use? What readings? Or how about in the Old Testament? Is there detailed instruction as to how to perform a sin-offering?* 2 Peter 3:16 "He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction." I agree with your last statement, " - the doctrines and commandments of men - is sinking sand." - which is why no one should listen to what any protestant has to say.
Human failing! In all modes of life! Why does it surprise you? Pope’s aren’t devine. God had a third of his angels who failed. Christ had one of his apostles fail! Balaam the profit failed! You are looking for perfection in the Catholic Church that does not exist. Not in your church either. Only God is perfect but he has always worked through imperfection.
Thanks for this interview!! 👌🏼 First heard his testimony on Journey Home and I was glued to that show for a while. Would love to see one with Chad Pirotte!!
I really loved this video, Steve Ray as usual, was magnificent and just what all Christians need to hear from. I am disabled but, your new format is much improved and I like so many am nor traditional, but what I loved about this interview was the fact that it reminds us, as Christians, that we are One in the Spirit and One in the Lord. We need more healing videos like this. Thank you Matt, this was just brilliant!
"The consent of peoples and nations keeps me in the Church; so does her authority, inaugurated by miracles, nourished by hope, enlarged by love, established by age. The succession of priests keeps me, beginning from the very seat of the Apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after His resurrection, gave it in charge to feed His sheep, down to the present episcopate. And so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic Church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house." Saint Augustine Against the Fundamental Epistle of Manichaeus Chapter 4 / # 5
I think when people leave a church or denomination it is usually because they see something wrong or hurtful happening and are passionate about telling people how their “eyes have been opened”. Hence deconstruction currently happening. I left my Pentecostal church at 17 because what was happening and being taught, Wasn’t lining up with the bible. I didn’t hate my church. I’m still very close with the leaders and friends, but had to leave and do speak against what is not biblical. I’m 29 now and am on the journey he speaks of “genealogy- where did we come from?” Which is why I’m here on your channel. Lol. I’m not Catholic (not sure what I am beyond a follower of Jesus) but I love the Catholic Church and am drawn to it.
Martin Luther would have found a reason to leave today regardless. He didn’t leave because of the arguments he posted, he came up with the arguments to justify what he wanted to do anyways. IMO.
He saw the evil of the church and the papacy and tried to change it. He gave the Bible to the ordinary people to read in their own language and that was the real beginning of the Reformation. Once the people saw how the church was twisting the Scriptures and keeping the truth to themselves. As far as being a lunatic, compare the humble monk to Pope Alexander XI. I dare you.
This may seem like a stupid question Matt Fradd but was that a shirt of one of Edward Degas' paintings? I studied art in college and I thought it was him but I wanted to know. Great content as always
Who told you which books are in the bible? The Catholic church. Jesus started Catholic church. You protest it. Why are there 1000s of Protestant denominations that teach conflicting doctrines?
I read in the comments that many people didn't know Steve Ray until now. I'm surprised but also jealous, because I remember how exited I was when I was listening to him for the first time. Steve Ray has a style
Contrary to what Ray said, Luther did not originally desire to leave the Catholic church, but was forced into it with the threat of papal excommunication and the unwillingness of the Vatican to dialogue. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Luther wanted to get married He was a Catholic priest and took a vow of Chastity and obedience. My dad studied to be a priest for many years. 6 months before ordination he left the seminary But NEVER left the church
Thank you Steve. It's very interesting and informative. I hope your books will be translated into German language especially this topic and sold here. There are many lukewarm catholics here and many left the church due to the church scands
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
@ Bijo Geo Jose There are two collections of writings of the early Church fathers that are comprehensive and available in English through Amazon: i.) "The Fathers of the Church: An Introduction to the First Christian Teachers" by Mike Aquilina is a good one volume breviary for those with no prior experience reading or understanding the early Church fathers. Written for a popular audience with extensive brief quotes from out of the Church fathers writings with historical and theological explanation to contextualize the Father, his time, what was the occasion for his writing, and its theological and historical significance. ii.) "The Faith of the Early Fathers" in three volumes by William A. Jurgens: these three volumes have extensive quotes from the fathers with some general, explanatory notes by Fr. Jurgens. In my opinion, the value is reading what extensive quotes of what the Fathers actually wrote, but if you aren't already familiar with the importance of any given writing, or the theological significance of the individual passages themselves, or understand the audience and the situation which they were addressing, they require some explanation. iii.) "Patrology" in four volumes by Johannes Quastens: like Jurgens, there are extensive quotations from the early Church fathers actually documents, but Quasten, in my opinion, does a better job of explaining to an unknowing public, what Jurgens likely knew and assumed his readership would already understand (Jurgens likely wrote for seminarians, consecrated religious and priests as an audience, whereas Quastens is trying to make the early Church fathers accessible to a wider readership).
Can't help saying, this was one of the best videos I've watched in a long time. I hope everyone I know gets to watch this. Any possibility of getting highlights of this talk, part by part versions of this video that I could share with friends who wouldn't probably want to sit through 1.5 hrs? (I personally wouldn't mind sitting through this multiple times). Would it be copyright infringement if I did it myself?
Matt's channel actually uploads shorter clips of the talk after he releases the whole episode!
@@AnNguyen-kn1tq Yep. what An said. And thanks for the kind words.
Alan Rozario A lot of what was said in this video were actually summaries from his book, UPON THIS ROCK. Everybody should read that book. It has all the footnotes and detailed research that supports all the points made in this video.
@@ST-ov8cm thank you.. I'll check it out
@@alanrozario l1
What Steve Ray said is so true. I was a Catholic who became a Protestant for a long while. One of the pastors in the congregation that I was a member of in Northern California had a disagreement with how he interpreted a Bible verse with several of the other pastors from this church I was attending and after a year or so, he left that church and went to another one that agreed with him. I am now back to being a Catholic with a much stronger faith. I love my Catholic Faith with all its faults for there was one thing this pastor who left told me that led me back to Catholicism. At the time I became a Protestant, he asked me why I left being a Catholic. And I said it’s because of certain priests who aren’t behaving as they are supposed to. And he told me never judge the church by its leaders for they are people too. And as he left the Protestant church I was attending , I realized that I was in the right church all along and should have just stayed Catholic despite the errors of its priests. Now I am Catholic again and will remain so til the end of my life.
Am catholic having sabbath friends when we share reading, they come with more questions, I not know wether they are prepared so, but all looks to harsh to me. But even though I give the verse, there interpretation is different and wick, no strong faith, like they reject cross of Jesus, and say we have Idols, yet Jesus died on the cross not new things we produce. And 1 Corinthians 1:18-19,god say cross is my power. But they don't understand. They throw away power of God which is cross. They don't read the Bible though they read but only for competition no humbling in the work of God
I'm Roman Catholic from infancy. I love Protestants and I thank God for them. During those times when I felt lost or apathetic in faith, the wonderful lectures of Protestant pastors helped to enlighten my mind and rekindle my love of God. I just let the parts where they criticized the Catholic Church and practices go over my head, like water going over the waterproof feathers of a duck. I thank God that I held on all these years to the conviction that I'm in the right boat of salvation. May all devoutly believing and seeking Protestants find their way home.
Steve Ray!!!! My day has gotten so much better. Shout out to the man who helped bring me into the Church!!!!!!!!!
Welcome Home brother. 🙌🏾
Welcome home!!!
As a Protestant (probably on track to become Catholic) this was so informative and an intellectual/theological feast. Blessings to Steve and you, Matt.
Nathan, look into the "Coming Home Network" (Chnetwork.org) as they have hundreds of videos of Protestant (and Othodox) pastors conversions to the Catholic church. Jesus founded one Holy Catholic church and He said, "the gates of hell will not prevail against it." Jesus created one church, not 40,000 denominations.
The Catholic church has the succession of Apostles-- where every Bishop can trace his lineage back to the original Apostles thru the laying on of hands --as every Pope is the successor of Peter, whom Jesus declared the rock on which He will build His church. Us 1.3 billion Catholics rejoice for the day you come home to Rome.
Don't believe the likes of Lane Cobble; the early Eastern Fathers held a very different view than Eastern Orthodox do today: Read what the early Eastern Fathers believed about St. Peter and his successors in Rome. www.fisheaters.com/easternfathers.html
Does the Orthodox Church predate the Catholic Church?
www.catholicbridge.com/orthodox/does-the-orthodox-church-predate-the-catholic-church.php
Two Books I would recommend reading:
Ending the Byzantine/Greek Schism:(By James Likoudis)
circulosemiotico.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/james_likoudis_demetrius_cydones_saint_thomas_bookfi.pdf
RUSSIA AND THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH (By Vladimir Soloviev)
www.strobertbellarmine.net/books/Solovyev--Russia_Universal_Church.pdf
Lastly, Eastern Orthodox deny Purgatory; but what did the early Eastern Fathers have to say?
practicalapologetics.blogspot.com/2013/07/early-church-fathers-on-purgatory.html
@@t.l.ciottoli4319 You didn't watch the whole video, did you?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂am sorry for laughing..am laughing at all this you getting..am catholic and I will not pray that you become catholic..I would pray that the holy spirit guides you..Nathan🤗🤗 welcome home
@@t.l.ciottoli4319 Luther was a Catholic monk, too. He studied and left the church for what he thought was a more correct faith. Name specific reasons and points of differences between the two, not the fact that someone left for Orthodoxy. I myself am still recovering from the post Russian Orthodox Communist scars and curses. Can a nation poses and practice the true faith and be taken over by a murderous atheist - communist regime? In the OT, Israel always failed first to practice the way God asked them to, then God gave them into the hands of their enemies. Babylon captivity - 70 years. Russian Communism - 74 years. If Russia got Christianity right, why were they the first to become a communist regime and to murder millions of people in the name of their ideology?
First Scott Hahn and now Steve Ray. Matt, next do an interview with my favorite - Dr Brant Pitre!!!
Agreed
One hundred percent agree!
then EMJ
He is my favorite too!!!
Yes!!!!!
Having been born in a Baptist home, son and grandson of well meaning holy Baptist Pastors, I must admit that this interview has made a big impression. Many important theological points.
come on home
Cool!!! Check out book Pope Peter by Heschmeyer!!!
Matt, I came Home to the Church just about a month ago. I just found this interview today. What a blessing! I can't wait to get Steve's books to share with non-Catholic friends and family. Also: come to Budapest and celebrate the traditional Latin Mass at my church, a beautiful Baroque house of worship suitable for celebrating the Holy Eucharist!
I just love Steve Ray, what a blessing to the Church! God bless and continue to empower and strengthen you and your family🙏
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I'm Anglican and I love hearing how protestants made their journey to the Catholic Church. Fascinating.
check out the journey home on ewtn - so many great stories
Agreed! The coming home network is awesome!
Anglican convert here :)
@@Kitiwake Because Henry was a spoilt brat and wanted to marry his mistress - so he ditched the Pope.
@@candyclews4047 King Henry didn't start the English church.
Steve is one of my favorite apologists!
He is not a classical theologian but is so well studied, mostly on his own initiative. As such he is so refreshing as an excellent apologist for the Catholic Church! I really like Steve Ray!
God Bless your heart Steve, and Matt. Steve, you’re God sent to help and enlighten those His children on doubts and misguided. 🙏🙏🙏
Wow! Steve Ray has just been added to my list of Catholic mentors. What in-depth knowledge of our faith, the church and the Holy Land. Amazing.
Man... Steve Ray is always bringing the most fascinating information and insights. God bless you Jerusalem Jones!
I'm friends with his grandson!
This has been very helpful. My friend asked me to make a defense of the papacy and this video right here is a massive resource. Definitely gonna be giving Matt more views on this video.
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@@Adam-ue2ig That response video is filled with errors
@@Tom-kk1zu that's not helpful to assert "it's filled with errors" without getting specific and giving evidence for your assertion it is just posturing.
@@Adam-ue2ig I didn't and still don't have time to write something longer. I just didn't want people to think it was a legitimate response.
@@Tom-kk1zu lol...you think people would think it's an illegitimate response merely because a random Internet person says so?
Hello! A protestant here and enjoying your channel!
amazing show Matt and Steve having seen the Popes list in the Vatican to have meat put on the bones of history by Steve a truly enthusiastic Catholic convert absolutely beautiful thank you
Steve Ray Catholic Indiana Jones!!
That is so true 😂
Beyond Jerusalem Jones
S T I know lol
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Steve is my fav catholic apologist
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
@JOE ZAMMIT awesome! Wonderful saint
What struck me was the 120 names. It's the first time I heard of it. I'm impressed!
When did he say that ?
@@lonelyberg1808 it's been almost a year since I watched it. Can't remember the exact time stamp. I think you'll have to watch the video to find it.
@@ericgatera7149 ah ok, I've just seen it. It's at 55:00
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
I never get tired of hearing how much steve ray loves his wife :)
Very true.
I’m Catholic
Had one gf. Married 1983. She divorced me
Been single since 1990
I think this is the first more than one hour TH-cam video that I actually finished.
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Adam 😳🥴🥺🙄😅🤣😅🤣
Hi 😊 to my other part of the family cousins.
Great video!! Steve is one of the best teachers, if not THE best teachers out there when it comes to the Catholic faith. He makes things understanding to everyone !!
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This was absolutely fantastic. I didn't even realise how 1 and a half hours went by. I learned so much. Thank you !!!
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The best conversion story I have heard.Thank you.
Mr. Steve Ray is very well informed and researched. I trust the information he is sharing us.
Both of you are amazing, good objective discussions.
Matt, it would be great if you could get someone from the other non byzantine eastern catholic churches. It feels like they are always left out when they are just as much important as any other. God bless!
Great talk Matt, awesome to see steve on here. I really really appreciate what he says. Greetings from New Zealand.🇳🇿📿🙏💕 I love my Catholic Faith! - chur!😊👍
Loved the explanation of salvation outside of the Church!
I loved this video. I just happened upon your channel and I love it! I am a lifelong Catholic and your videos teach me things I never knew. Can’t wait to watch more videos. ❤️
Same here, Shari Limbert! I too am a lifelong Catholic, but the Holy Spirit infused a desire in me to learn more. Some of these were to answer Protestants that I knew who were spouting inaccuracies or lies and to be able to explain to my children who are no longer practicing Catholics what they left. I began an intensive learning process of the Catholic Church 3-1/2 years ago, and I am deep in Church history with videos and books by apologists and taking courses from an assortment of Catholic entities each day. There are so many great Catholic channels and Catholic apologists, many of whom were Protestants, and Steve Ray is one of the best of what I describe as, blue-collar converts! His knowledge of the Bible resulted from his evangelical background and his incredible research into the meaning of so many scripture-related subjects. The meaning of the "120 names in the upper room" is a notable example.
Great guest. Solid Catholic but still holding to the good aspects of the Protestants, especially their attention to the Bible. We Catholics need to get back to that Bible !! :) Well done Steve !!
"We Catholics need to get back to that Bible !!"
Well said. Thanks to Wycliffe, and King James I of England (both critics of Romanism) who broke the door open, you now have a multiplicity of excellent English Bibles, not Latin, to study for yourself. One of the many reasons why the Middle Ages were the Dark Ages.
Never met a Catholic who read the Bible before, in fact they tell me that's what a priest is for. Possibly one of the main reasons I'm not a Catholic
@@AndrewRAMontgomery That is why my friend Jesus tells us about the Holy Spirit the He will be our interpreter of the Bible. (John 16:13) I do not doubt that the Holy Spirit will not talk to us and tell us what every verses of the scripture means. I never read anything Jesus saying that when I'm gone go to Peter and he will interpret the scriptures for you... do not read the Bible for you will not understand it. Yes Peter says it is hard but he did not say it's impossible for the Holy Spirit will guide us into ALL truth.... I wondering why Steve Ray doesn't know John 16:13... probably he's not asking the Holy Spirit to interpret it for him....
@@ramonagustin9023
Ramon,
By your comments you expose irrationality and fanatical thinking. It shows you know nothing of the Catholic Church.
I ask you: Do you know who, inspired by the Holy Spirit, gave you the Bible?
▪︎ANSWER:
The Catholic Church
▪︎WHEN & WHERE?
Beginning with the Council of Rome of 382AD, Through the Decree of Damasus, the 37th Pope, successor of St. Peter.
I ask you:
Where did Martin Luther get authority to decide what and what not to teach?
ANS:
NOWHERE!
I leave you the words of our Lord which confirm the existence of ONE CHURCH and no other.
MATTHEW 16:18
18. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build MY CHURCH, and THE GATES OF HADES WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.
How many churches?
ONLY ONE!
Jesus promised:
▪︎MATTHEW 28:19-20
19. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20. and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, TO THE END OF THE AGE.”
IN CONCLUSION:
The Church founded by Jesus was never to be divided in a "Protestant"
way, nor was it founded on a non existent Bible but on men throughout the ages, constantly inspired and guided by the Holy Spirit to know and teach ALL TRUTH in order to remain ONE CHURCH, just as JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE:
▪︎ JOHN 17:17-23
17. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
18 As you have sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world.
19. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, so that they also may be sanctified IN TRUTH.
20. “I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word,
21. that THEY MAY ALL BE ONE. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
22. The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE,
23. I in them and you in me, that they may become COMPLETELY ONE, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
God bless your journey.
@@joecastillo8798 The scriptures was written by many people, some inspired by the Holy Spirit, some instructed by God himself from the beginning... the first written Word of God was written by God himself to the tablet (10 Commandments)..... until God instructed them to write it.... Now the Bible is just a translation of the original text where the scriptures are originally written... translating to other languages doesn't need inspiration of the Holy Spirit...in which the Bible is considered as translation...
I'm a practising Catholic and also ecumenist; I pray that all Christians solve our differencies and end the scandal of division.
Not all division is bad. There are some things worth dividing over. If you render Christ's atoning work as insufficient unless you practice x number of "sacraments", that is worth dividing over. It is not the gospel given to us by the Apostles. I can call you my brother/sister in Christ if you trust his atoning work as sufficient for your salvation, but you like to wear a dress when you preach. It is not my preference, but it doesn't preclude us from joining together. I will even join you in your fight to protect babies from an abortionist's scalpel. No problem. But, if you deny the sole efficacy of faith, and seek to attach as conditions to my salvation the doctrines and commandments of men, we will not be in fellowship. It is YOU who left the faith once delivered to the saints, and thus your responsibility to return. John 17 is your call to return.
It's all so confusing to me. Both sides have valid points. They will know we are christians by our love. If we love God with all our mind, body, soul and spirit AND love our neighbor as ourself, we are obeying the commandments.
I was raised Catholic but came to personal faith in Jesus Christ at the age of 20, 40 years ago in a non-denominational church. I'm drawn to Catholicism and trying to learn, but I get confused with all these arguments. One thing I do know, LOVE is the key. May the Lord be merciful to us all.
And that is why I am a Latin Mass only Catholic.
John Donahue
What does that have to do with it?
I just joined the wagon, I’m in love with the Latin Mass!!!⛪️✝️
John Donahue I could do it myself but I really don’t feel like typing out every single argument so I’m just going to leave these here: shamelesspopery.com/where-is-the-papacy-in-the-bible/ www.google.com/amp/s/churchpop.com/2017/08/28/where-the-papacy-is-hidden-in-the-old-testament/amp/
@@johndonahue3162 Just watch the whole video and think about Steve's points.
@widjajaa what John doesn't notice about the Scriptures regarding the local church hierarchy is that it doesn't end there, simply because of who is writing to them about how to set up their lical heirarchy: an Apostle. An Apostle who visits, establishes, and wrotes to many church communities, so that they all remain in communion with each other. So yes, there is multi-community oversight going on. Just gotta look at the context behind the text.
God Bless you both Always.
What is something Steve said that struck you?
Matt I love you can I get ❤
Everything. ;)
Matt, I understand the desire for goodwill between Catholics and Protestant.
But come on, how is “Protest”ant not inherently anti-Catholic? If you protest something, then you are against (anti) the thing you Protest - in this case the Catholic Church.
Let’s not downplay this. Even Protestants understand this since there is far less friction between all the Protestant sects than there is between Protestants and Catholics.
@@redimerfortitudo Thanks mate. First of all, not all Protestants know why they are protestant. They may remain with their respective community while looking upon Catholics with indifference or even see Catholicism as one viable strand of Christianity among many. Secondly, there is obviously a difference between A) non-Catholics who are such because they disagree with some or most of her doctrines but who see much or at least some merit in Catholicism and B) non-Catholics who are such because they also think Catholicism to be a positive evil upon society and/or Christianity, are you really going to lump both into the category of anti-catholic?
@@pintswithaquinas Your first point is the most important. Most protestants are blatantly unaware of history (speaking from experience).
I'm still technically "protestant" with no protests, and I plan on moving towards Rome. The major factor was history. Specifically the 1st century jewish contexts of the OT and NT. Pair that with the Fathers, and you find the best argument for Catholic Christianity.
As I mention historical data to friends, they are AMAZED that so many "weird passages" have a rich, true, and deep meaning when paired with History. It explains the Scriptures, and also shows why the early church was Catholic. Most of my friends are hungry for more information like that. Then, they are satisfied, albeit surprised and shocked, to find Mary's perpetual virginity, the intercession of saints, the continuity of Apostolic Succession with jewish rabbinic authority going back to Moses, and Sacramental theology!
Awesome video. Sharing with my Protestant friends. ♥️
Thanks guys I'm baffled and also blessed to liste such enlightening conversation.
I’m shocked I haven’t heard of Steve Ray by now; the guy is incredible! Great video, thank you both so much for all that you do.
Steve Ray was one of the former Protestant converts to Catholicism along with Scott Hahn and Ken Hensley that I encountered "accidentally" or maybe with the infusion of the Holy Spirit 3+ years ago which gave me the desire to learn more about my Catholic faith. He and the others as well as new apologists on the scene have widened my knowledge of Catholicism!
Steve Ray IS George Constanta!!
You really tried to keep him on track Matt and I thoroughly enjoyed the show.
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Love this episode, a classic!
Hey Matt, I came across the app Hallow through one of your videos in the past when you spoke about it. I must say, the app is beautiful. There are some really amazing features - one that I really like is the calm nature of the "Sitting in silence with God" session on prayer.
Oh and btw, great work on getting Steve Ray on your show! One of my favourites! :)
Wonderful educated discussion, full of constructive dialog.
Excellent work for our Catholic cause and very interesting, I'm sure, to our protestant brothers.
God bless you both!
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
The title of "father" is in Isaiah 22: 20-22, which ties to Mathew 16: 18
Good work Matt. God bless you 🙏🙏🙏
Excellent episode! Watching this was more exciting that watching Indiana Jones movie :) Greetings form Poland.
Great show Matt, I love Steve he's awesome he talks whit so much enthusiasm 🖒
I really think that people say that there are confusion in the Church just because we have internet 😂, I mean I love history and I study Church history for interest and love and I hope one day become a historian, but the Church has always been a mess, I recently was reading about the "Avignon Papacy" and the "Western Schism" I mean that was a total mess people, and was much more confusion that what is happening now. And after that was the "protestant reformation" and before all of that was the "East-West Schism" and the "Iconoclasts" and the "Arrian Heresy" and the "Judaizers" in the time of the Apostles, and all the schismatics and heretics and persecutions, and the bad Bishops and Fathers and Popes and lay people...
What Steve said is true, there has not been a Golden Age of the Church, we've had good people and Saints and bad and evil people, all Catholic generations have their own problems but we know that the Gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church that our Lord established, He will be whit us until the end of times.
We are soldiers of Christ we should not be afraid of confronting the problems of our own age.
Finally, a comprehensive and in depth answer. Now I have something serious to consider. I tried asking Catholics about it, one insulted me thinking I was a protestant troll. Most couldn't give me a convincing answer and misquoted scripture. I find it sad that so many professing Catholics go on sinning and have no idea what the Gospel is really about.
Sorry you had to go through that. Not all Catholics are like that. The church is full of sinful, imperfecr people. But still, wgat the Catholic church teaches is true and makes us happy!
Some Catholics are no better than Protestant Bible-thumping hypocrites.
@@johnnotrealname8168 Jesus started Catholic church…..join
@@juliankonkani Well….Catholics are in a better position because Jesus started Catholic church. Protestant churches started by men. No salvation outside the Catholic church.
@@johnyang1420 Here is where I'd like to correct you. Protestant sects aren't Churches. Churches have apostolic foundations and their bishops / priests carry apostolic succession. The Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Nestorians are Churches. Protestant sects were founded by men. They are Ecclesial communities, not Churches. Avoid saying Protestant "Churches" because that gives them legitimacy which they don't have.
Wow! Such energy!!
Some over-simplification.
Matt’s very patient :)
Thanks for your great work Matt, greetings from the Philippines!
Steve is so cute! always talking with enthusiasm
Brother Matt you look like a knight templar bro. Love your videos brother.
Steve Ray's talk about the Keys, the Rock, and the Chair is great! Something to add to Matthew 16: when Peter declares his revelation that Jesus is the Christ, he gave an infallible declaration given to him from God above, leading to Jesus changing his name, and giving him the Keys. Truly Amazing!
Woah Steve Ray! 👍🏽 You’re hitting it out of the park with these guests, Matt! Thanks 😊
I’m blessed to be a cradle Catholic. And a devout Catholic.
Me too.
As a protestant, the case for the leadership of someone like a Pope from Peter on down seems quite strong. I can also see how that might be helpful for local churches to have a leader to unite them. It has also been refreshing and eye-opening to hear that Catholics don't have as extreme beliefs as I thought, and not just for the Pope, but also in regards to Mary.
The thing that still trips me up (Pope-wise) is the infallibility of the Pope. Even when it comes to the (very) specific and increasingly small situations where a Catholic might say that a Pope says something that is infallible, I see no reason to believe that is the case. Does anyone have any biblical evidence for papal infallibility (not authority, but infallibility)? I think the belief that the Pope can announce dogmas and doctrine that cannot be refuted later on biblical grounds could and has led to errors. For example on the Immaculate Conception, where it seems biblical gymnastics and reliance on early-ish church leaders have to be called upon for support.
John 21:25. Besides John 21:25, many divine secrets are not fully revealed. You need to think way back before Jesus was born. The miracles in old testament are so many and as mind boggling, proving that no one can understand the span of God's power. Now, imagine what God the Father had in mind when He wanted to have the WORD to become human being to dwell amongst us. What kind of a woman that deserved to be the WORD bearer? You know the WORD is holy, one being with the Father and Holy Spirit. He certainly deserved someone holy too to stay in her human womb. He needed the blood and flesh from a holy woman. Because He is from heaven and there is not a slighest stain of sin could be permitted in heaven. What is impossible for God? He created Adam and Eve SINLESS in the beginning. It is not out of His power to have one immaculate woman for His only Son. Water and oil cannot mixed. A super Holy Word could not have stayed within ordinary unholy womb.
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Luke wrote a beautiful story of Jesus' birth. It would not have bern possible if Luke had not sit down with mother Mary and listened to her attentively. Could Luke have known something else so divine but not revealed in his gospel? You bet.
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John took care Mary after the crucifixion. Mary and John would have exchanged lots of stories on Jesus. It is no wonder that John could write such a heavenly gospel. As he said in John 21:25, what else besides Jesus that we modern people dont know but were revealed to first christians?
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I hope the link I just posted helps
@@jamesm5462 Thanks for replying and giving me something to think about. What would Catholic tradition say about the woman who carried Mary in her womb? Why would she not have to be holy/sinless as well for Mary to be sinless?
In response to this statement: "Water and oil cannot mixed. A super Holy Word could not have stayed within ordinary unholy womb." I would agree if Jesus were simply fully God. But Jesus was fully Man as well, so I don't know that there is any reason to believe (outside of the Catholic teaching) that there is anything special about the literal blood and flesh of Jesus. If Jesus had received a blood transfusion (I know, silly example), he would still be the Christ, son of God, and Son of Man. Obviously, God could have made Mary sinless, 100% agree that is within his power. It just isn't necessary or supported in scripture (from what I can see).
When we talk about what Jesus deserved for a mother, we get into interesting territory. Thankfully, Jesus didn't come to earth to get what he deserved. See Philippians 2:5-11. He deserved better than to be born in a stable, but he humbled himself. He deserved better than the life of a carpenter, but he humbled himself. And he didn't deserve to be betrayed and to die on the cross, but he humbled himself.
@@sethgilbert1086 The woman who carried Mary in her womb is recognised as holy too.."Anna"
there is one question that Protestant brings it up that If Peter was in Rome why none of Paul's letters to Rome church mentioned of Peter as a leader there or even there is no greeting to him. Thanks
Naira Thomas - Peter mentions he was in Rome. 1 Peter 5:13 states "The Church here in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark". Babylon was a well known code word for the City of Rome. At the same time, persecution by Roman authorities of the followers of Christ was rife and the apostles never 'explicitly' wrote down where they went - only Paul but this does not lessen the power of the apostles' message. There are other clues too. In his Letter to the Romans (A.D. 110), Ignatius of Antioch remarked that he could not command the Roman Christians the way Peter and Paul once did, such a comment would only make sense if Peter had been a leader, if not the leader, of the church in Rome. There is also archaeological evidence which tells us Vatican Hill was covered with early inscriptions attesting to the fact that Peter’s remains were there. That is why St Peter's is built where it is - over the tomb of Peter (whom The Emperor Nero had killed. Peter chose to be crucified upside down, because he felt unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus Christ and that is why you see an upside down cross in the Vatican today, in honour of Peter's courage and martyrdom (and nothing to do with being satanic as some claim - out of ignorance). Hope this has been helpful. God Bless.
@@candyclews4047 Thank you so much for helping me out through my journey.
Would you mind to lead me, where can I find the archaeological evidence about Vatican's Hill, please?
INSPIRED!! thank you
You are on fire! First Dr. Hahn and now Steve Ray. Two former protestants two get your engines going "against" Capturing Christianity.
@@tony1685 By what authority is your interpretation?
@@tony1685 brother, I'd strongly suggest curbing your pride. You can disagree with Steve Ray or Dr. Hahn all you'd like, but to call them "biblically illiterate" is just dishonest and false.
Don't forget that "everyone who exalts himself will be humbled."
@@tony1685 whether that be the case or not, scripture commands us to give our defenses with "gentleness and reverence" (1Pet 3:15) You are doing neither.
I commend you for your zeal for what you believe to be the truth. In my case, the more I learned about scripture, the more I was drawn to the Catholic faith. And while I'm certainly no Steve Ray or Scott Hahn, I'm far from "biblically illiterate." I'll pray for you, and I'd ask that you please pray for me as well.
@@tony1685 The gates of hell will not prevail.
@@tony1685 Jesus said, "unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven" Children are obedient, they believe, they have faith, they are resilient. There are battles only God can fight. We are called to be humbled. He died for all of our sins.
Great video!
When people talk about Latin mass question is the liturgy given also in Latin or just the prayers and the Communion
@Carissa Hanson
Carissa,
Just the liturgy.
The homily is in the language of the place.
God bless.
As a Protestant I just want to say thank you for this video. I haven’t finished the video yet; but I do want to just make a statement about something the Guest said. In Protestantism; I am not my own Pope. That is more an attitude of Baptists and Non-Denominational Christians. Presbyterians listen to their Pastor; and what their Pastor says is true.
Now we obviously have questions sometimes and will talk to our Pastor; but I am never going to leave my Church because of a doctrinal disagreement; my Pastor is always right. We know; in concept that this can’t be true; and he has to be wrong about something’s; but we don’t know what those things are, so we submit to him on all things.
Just as my quick impression of the Early Church; there was freedom in their Early Church for disagreement. You see Jerome disagree with Augustine and Augustine disagree with Cyril and Cyril disagree with Clement, etc. So I find my Pastor (and by proxy; me) free to disagree with others.
Who is the arbiter of Faith; there is a sense that everyone is by proxy of their Pastor; in the sense that we have Guard Rail. We have Guard rails through the creeds and confessions; and if you go outside of those guardrail your soul is in danger.
This is why I see Catholics as brothers and Sisters; and when I disagree with them; I try to remain peaceful because they are completely inside those guardrails. I think you will find most Protestants see Catholics as saved but wrong.
Now back to the Video to see if our guest can convince me.
We can see successors in situations all down through history. In Europe, where many of our fairytales were spoken/written, we have available to us just how a hiarchial kingship structure works. In the Bible , I see a position such as a "right hand man", a "Steward " , or a "Vizier" , when Pharoah gives full authority to Joseph to look after all of Egypt. Joseph got a special ring, a special robe, a special head dress or crown, a throne, and much more. I see this in Isiah. I see this in Ester...
Hamen was Vizier to the King and when he was found guilty and was hanged, Mordecai, the cousin of Ester, was given the position.
The Jews were very familiar with this kingship structure. The apostles knew Jesus as the King, the true King, the one and only King.
So, they would have known and expected a position such as this.
Through our fairytales and other stories/movies,
we can see this structure.
Examples are, Jafar was the Vizier to Jasmine's father.
Lord Denison was the Steward of the Gondor, until.........wait for it......
THE RETURN OF THE KING!!!
When Jesus returns, we will no longer need a Pope.....a Steward, or whatever you call this position. When the king went to war, or even just traveled for any reason, this person, the Steward, took care of the kingdom. Often, this position stayed within the family.
If the Steward died, his son could become Steward, and so on. This, however did not happen within the Catholic church, except during an ancient period of corruption. Even when "bad" Stewards, Popes came into office, they still came into office as direct successors to Peter. They are still human. They are also sinners. Some became disillusioned, but never did they teach from the chair, error.
All in all, it makes such logic sense to know and understand that Jesus, being the King, would have set up this system amongst His people, simply because there needs to be harmony with a leadership. Remember, Jesus prayed, "Father, let them be one."
There would be chaos within the Church if we had been left without leadership.
This is why the Protestants live in such chaos. If they don't get along, they leave and start their own church. This is why there is over 40,000 protestant denominations, yet, the true Church, the Church founded by Jesus Christ, Himself, is still ONE.
ONE, after two thousand years, One.
Excellent video I watched until the end. I didn’t know of the actual physical historical location of Mathew 16. This helps in the understanding of those critical verses
Steve Ray has a series of talks on his website that are super cheap. These talks helped bring down many obstacles I had about coming back to the Catholic Church after 10 years in evangelicalism.
Welcome home!!!
I was shocked when I started finding out about Martin Luther. Shocked at him, and shocked at Protestants for never talking about any of it, and then act like the bad thing about him was his opinion of Jews.
He was a rabid anti-semite. To be fair there were many Catholics who were the same and thought of them as Christ killers - the result of poor catechesis.
Even stranger, Luther depended on Jewish opinions of certain opd testament books when Luther was anti semitic.
Logan Ross!!! Right??? I am with you!!!! Too long to even list!!! Had I known that…. Whoa!!! I now know why I didn’t hear of such things!
I was raised in catholicism and realised it was antisemitic. Don't believe me, well Jesus was Jewish, His initial disciples were Jewish and most of the writers except one were Jewish.
I'm 30 minutes in and really enjoying this, but I had a thought that might help. Since words, and our perceptions and associations with them, are so important, I think we should say "discovery" instead of development.
For if the deposit of faith from Jesus, the apostles, and Moses and the prophets contains all the fullness we need (in the cabbage) then we are not developing anything (like we created or constructed it ourselves apart from God) we are merely discovering or uncovering it as we grow and develop in our faith.
So it's not the faith or the truth that develops, because it's already complete in Christ, but rather us who does in discovery with it, Him, and each other. In Christ, Andrew
Totally agree, but they chose "develop" by design. For Romanists, the deposit of truth continues to grow after the Apostles. So therefore, in their minds, there is additional truth that grows. Cf. papal "ex cathedra" statements and encyclicals. Tradition is elevated to the same place of honor and obedience as inspired, canonized Scripture. The problem is, there is no basis for this elevation. It is a man-made construct, and is not endorsed by the Holy Spirit beyond what is contained in the Scriptures. We have everything we need there.
"3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires." (II Peter 1:3,4)
It's through the GREAT AND PRECIOUS PROMISES that we can participate in the divine nature. Not a pope. Not a bishop. Not a priest. They can't promise you anything, because they are men like us. Build you life on the rock of Jesus Christ. Anything less - the doctrines and commandments of men - is sinking sand.
@@Elevator2TheTop Amen brother, well said. I just learned about the equating of tradition with Scripture last fall before going to a vocations weekend at a seminary. My questions and disagreement with that was not met kindly before I went, which is why this subject is of interest (and concern) to me when I heard about Aquinas.
I'm still trying to get through the Summa from Aquinas that I got from the library about a month ago. It's very tough to read and follow, especially after hearing how it was given second weight to the bible. It's like reading math proofs that dissect God and bring him down to our level instead of us seeking to be elevated to his. We are told in the New Testament to go amongst other people and their cultures the preach the Good News, while explicitly being told not to become like them. Aquinas seems to be promoting the latter by bringing God down to an atheist and humanistic viewpoint and understanding. If creation, the natural law, the Bible and the prophets are not enough for them then we should shake the dust off our feet and go to others who might listen. Casting our pearls before swine in a manner that works on their playing field is too much like becoming like them. Seems to be highly dangerous for our faith and wrong according to both the old and new testaments. In Christ, Andrew
@@Elevator2TheTop You have it backwards. Sola Scriptura is a man-made construct. And your "develop by design" theory applies to protestantism from its inception; ever evolving and changing, breaking with the previous group and formulating another alternate teaching based on personal interpretations of Scripture.
While for Catholics, the deposit of truth doesn't continue to grow in the sense that it is different than what came before; but that a deeper understanding of that revealed truth is presented. Unlike protestantism there is no "additional truth" to Papal "ex cathedra" statements and encyclicals, which are meant to safeguard that truth, and to clarify that truth.
St. Paul himself regarded Oral Tradition to the same place of honor and obedience as inspired, canonized Scripture:Traditions “delivered” (1 Cor 11:2), “taught . . . by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thes 2:15), and “received” (2 Thes 3:6).- not by letter alone!
An extensive study of Paul’s word usage show some very interesting things:
*Colossians, 1 & 2 Thessalonians, Titus, and Philemon neither mention “Scripture” nor cite the OT, and Philippians doesn’t mention the word and makes just one OT citation.*
*In Ephesians, the Church/Tradition ratio to Scripture is 18-6; other books are similar: Philippians (4-1), Colossians (12-0), 1 Thessalonians (5-0), 2 Thessalonians (3-0), Titus (4-0). Would any sola Scriptura advocate have predicted such an outcome before studying these words?* Not likely . . .
The problem is, there is no basis for sola scriptura. It is a man-made construct, and is not endorsed by the Holy Spirit nor the early Church. And who is the arbiter of what Scripture says? You? Me? or the thousands of differing sects who all use the same Bible and claim the same Holy Spirit and yet all interpret the Scriptures differently?
You claim, "We have everything we need there." *yet I bet you can't find a detailed, word for word instruction as to how the early Christians worshipped? What prayers did they use? What readings? Or how about in the Old Testament? Is there detailed instruction as to how to perform a sin-offering?*
2 Peter 3:16 "He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."
I agree with your last statement, " - the doctrines and commandments of men - is sinking sand." - which is why no one should listen to what any protestant has to say.
I missed the stream...
The notifications arrive always too late on my phone
Too late for my question. But how does Steve handle Popes who are later declared to be "anti-popes"?
Human failing! In all modes of life! Why does it surprise you? Pope’s aren’t devine. God had a third of his angels who failed. Christ had one of his apostles fail! Balaam the profit failed! You are looking for perfection in the Catholic Church that does not exist. Not in your church either. Only God is perfect but he has always worked through imperfection.
Good question
The anti-popes were NEVER declared pope.
They were alway anti popes
Thanks for this interview!! 👌🏼 First heard his testimony on Journey Home and I was glued to that show for a while. Would love to see one with Chad Pirotte!!
There are many great stories on The Journey Home!
Steve Ray ❤ and Matt of course ❤🤭.
I would pay good money to watch Steve debate one of these street preachers who are always bashing us.
Shout out from Metro Detroit!!
Thanks Steve Ray, you are one of my favorites. Love your passion. God bless you.
I love this guy. I've learned so much.
Thank you so much for this !! I learned a lot !!!
Fantastic!!!! You should really do some short videos on this, Matt! Great job!
I really loved this video, Steve Ray as usual, was magnificent and just what all Christians need to hear from. I am disabled but, your new format is much improved and I like so many am nor traditional, but what I loved about this interview was the fact that it reminds us, as Christians, that we are One in the Spirit and One in the Lord. We need more healing videos like this. Thank you Matt, this was just brilliant!
"The consent of peoples and nations keeps me in the Church; so does her authority, inaugurated by miracles, nourished by hope, enlarged by love, established by age. The succession of priests keeps me, beginning from the very seat of the Apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after His resurrection, gave it in charge to feed His sheep, down to the present episcopate. And so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic Church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house."
Saint Augustine
Against the Fundamental Epistle of Manichaeus
Chapter 4 / # 5
I think when people leave a church or denomination it is usually because they see something wrong or hurtful happening and are passionate about telling people how their “eyes have been opened”. Hence deconstruction currently happening. I left my Pentecostal church at 17 because what was happening and being taught, Wasn’t lining up with the bible. I didn’t hate my church. I’m still very close with the leaders and friends, but had to leave and do speak against what is not biblical. I’m 29 now and am on the journey he speaks of “genealogy- where did we come from?” Which is why I’m here on your channel. Lol. I’m not Catholic (not sure what I am beyond a follower of Jesus) but I love the Catholic Church and am drawn to it.
that was awesome. I love the wisdom, knowledge and passion.
Love Steve Ray!
Absolutely loved this video!
Martin Luther would have found a reason to leave today regardless. He didn’t leave because of the arguments he posted, he came up with the arguments to justify what he wanted to do anyways. IMO.
AGREE!!👏 he was a lunatic
He saw the evil of the church and the papacy and tried to change it. He gave the Bible to the ordinary people to read in their own language and that was the real beginning of the Reformation. Once the people saw how the church was twisting the Scriptures and keeping the truth to themselves.
As far as being a lunatic, compare the humble monk to Pope Alexander XI. I dare you.
Good point. Unsure.
Love Steve. So doggone good!!!
I always thought Steve Ray was some apologist from the late 70’s/80’s, but seeing him now...guess that’s just how he looks lol 😅😅
Woooohoooo awesome!
I want to really jump and scream..Hallelujah! So excited to watch this show coz Steve Ray is here!!
Keep your eyes on Jesus brothers and sisters!
Thats why we are Catholic!!!!
Jesus said to the apostles
“He who hears you hears me
He who rejects you rejects me”
Lk 10:16
That’s the whole point of the video!
This may seem like a stupid question Matt Fradd but was that a shirt of one of Edward Degas' paintings? I studied art in college and I thought it was him but I wanted to know. Great content as always
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@@thomasmcewen5493 Thanks for answering!
@@matthewcunningham5382 I saw many of his works here in Europe and they are delightful as is Van Gogh. Prague.
@@thomasmcewen5493 Nice! That must have been nice to see. I enjoy his work as well
Brilliant lively discussion - loved it and learnt a lot! Bravo
@Matt Fradd brother, check also Brant Pitre, call him on topic on Eucharist and Mary, he will blown your mind :))
Mr.Yang....you can't argue with the truth....God's word😊!
Who told you which books are in the bible? The Catholic church. Jesus started Catholic church. You protest it. Why are there 1000s of Protestant denominations that teach conflicting doctrines?
Check out book Pope Peter. If papacy is true, we should all be Catholic. Papacy is true!!!!
You cant argue with Gods Word(Catholic church put it together)……we can argue your interpretations.
I guess you arent replying. God bless you!
Catholics feel that Jesus and the Catholic church possess the truth.
I read in the comments that many people didn't know Steve Ray until now. I'm surprised but also jealous, because I remember how exited I was when I was listening to him for the first time. Steve Ray has a style
the first times to hear great teachrs lie him are always specials
Contrary to what Ray said, Luther did not originally desire to leave the Catholic church, but was forced into it with the threat of papal excommunication and the unwillingness of the Vatican to dialogue. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Luther left.
Luther wanted to get married
He was a Catholic priest and took a vow of
Chastity and obedience.
My dad studied to be a priest for many years.
6 months before ordination he left the seminary
But NEVER left the church
An excommunication is an invitation to repent and correct one’s actions in order to return to communion.
This guy is amazing, thank God, God is good
It used to be illegal to home school here in Michigan?
Thank you Steve. It's very interesting and informative. I hope your books will be translated into German language especially this topic and sold here. There are many lukewarm catholics here and many left the church due to the church scands
I mean church scandals
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly TH-cam video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
What are the best books on the Church fathers, which would include their letters, sermons, etc?
@ Bijo Geo Jose There are two collections of writings of the early Church fathers that are comprehensive and available in English through Amazon:
i.) "The Fathers of the Church: An Introduction to the First Christian Teachers" by Mike Aquilina is a good one volume breviary for those with no prior experience reading or understanding the early Church fathers. Written for a popular audience with extensive brief quotes from out of the Church fathers writings with historical and theological explanation to contextualize the Father, his time, what was the occasion for his writing, and its theological and historical significance.
ii.) "The Faith of the Early Fathers" in three volumes by William A. Jurgens: these three volumes have extensive quotes from the fathers with some general, explanatory notes by Fr. Jurgens. In my opinion, the value is reading what extensive quotes of what the Fathers actually wrote, but if you aren't already familiar with the importance of any given writing, or the theological significance of the individual passages themselves, or understand the audience and the situation which they were addressing, they require some explanation.
iii.) "Patrology" in four volumes by Johannes Quastens: like Jurgens, there are extensive quotations from the early Church fathers actually documents, but Quasten, in my opinion, does a better job of explaining to an unknowing public, what Jurgens likely knew and assumed his readership would already understand (Jurgens likely wrote for seminarians, consecrated religious and priests as an audience, whereas Quastens is trying to make the early Church fathers accessible to a wider readership).
Faith of the Fathers by Jurgens
Fathers Know Best by Jimmy Akin