All the soulsborne games are masterpieces of a video game, but the entire "____ is the dark souls of ____" is so overused that it gives dark souls a negative connotation.
So you guess what happens? His target market fucked him over... Now in Contrast we have elden ring that sold over millions of copies at launch and more than 350 thousand pre orders
What's worse is that those "fanboys" were the fanbase he made with GOW. He shat on his own fans and then turned around to shit on PC players to get them back.
@@kira-dk2mx He already made a name and plenty of money off of Gears of War at that point he didn't want to keep making Gears of War which is why he left.
When I first saw Geoff in one of Crowbcat's videos, I just assumed he'd be part of the phony marketing machinery, but I have realized he's a nice guy and a real gamer at heart.
@fresh coom Yeah well thats the exact oppsite of his words but lets say he doesnt treat it like a business well guess what he showed his true colors he was really biased and really full of himself
It never fails to amaze me how much of a stone cold pro Geoff Keighley is. When the dev said "Xbox fanboys are pretty salty" you can tell Geoff is like "wtf is wrong w this dude" but instead he claps back with the "well they supported you for a long time." lol made dude look like a fool.
He is also the one who hit back at the Xbox exec, when they made the new Xbox online only, with "Thats your message: Stick with 360?" The Dorito pope certainly has his moments.
@@prokilleridk5924 It's a tattoo about a game that died in months, so if anyone asks him about the inspiration for the tattoo they're not gonna know what the game is
I think one of the reasons that lawbreakers failed was because 1) it was a exclusive so not everyone could play it and people thought it was scummy. And 2) the fps genre is so oversaturated that there was like 2 other fps games that did what lawbreaker tried to do but better
if you are the type of person to have petty bullshit rivalries that will lead you to do something like this you probably shouldn't be leading a company
@@TheGreenTaco999 If you throw away such a major source of revenue over such a petty reason you should not be leading a company. Cliffy B might have some decent ideas but he has the business acumen of an utter r tard.
@@MrZiggy-sk2wg It feels like you don't know the business world. Plenty of that going around. You just don't apply your pettiness to corporations that can crush yours.
I've heard of Battleborn (All I remember is that it had a Mushroom character? That might be a different game though.) but this video is the first time I've ever heard of Lawbreakers.
@@pearz420 Not bad art direction and twitter politics. It failed because it was an average game in an oversaturated market. A hero shooter after overwatch, with MOBA elements after League, combining the worst of them both, that being the issue of League games being too long and too serious to be a fun game to jump on for a little bit, and the issue of overwatch being that so many characters means many aren't balanced. Add in that it advertised a campaign, but it was super short levels and always-online, and it's death by a thousand cuts. If I wanted to play a fun hero shooter, I'd play overwatch. If I wanted to play a MOBA, I'd play League. They're clashing genres, so they're not going to work well together. We learnt this with SMNC, I don't know why they ignored the signs and made a game like that anyway.
Cause he betrayed his core audience. You can't spend years building a core following only to then turn your back on those people who gave you the funds to build more. I think this downfall was completely justified on account of his rudeness as you put it best.
As of May 14, 2018, Boss Key Productions, the studio that brought you the "Dark Souls of competitive first-person shooters" has shutdown. According to the Cliff himself, the studio is "effectively no more." He was later found in his garage trying to sell the entire studio and its assets for "29.99, none of that 60-dollar multiplayer-only bullshit."
This guy has negative charisma. I feel for the poor devs in his team who were probably depressed everytime Cliff opened his mouth and alienated another bunch of potential fans
@@mgsxmikeAs a viewer of them, I must say they’re competitive matches are crazy. One guy went for a 26 kill streak before the games’ survival round happened. The SWAT squads were damn bullet sponges. Even saw another game where the cops had glitched out with 90 or so of them just standing outside. Guy could’ve went for a higher score but choked hard at the end.
To be fair, it was a pretty intense game. Just like after playing a game of Quake Champions or Titanfall 2, it left a pretty intense feeling in your body.
5:18 is just baffling. People asked Cliffy if his hyper-masculine bro-shooter might be an Esport, and he reacted with utter contempt. It’s like he was begging people to ignore Lawbreakers.
Especially in a market where most guys are already with other girls. You won't get many players by proposing they break up with their current games AND move their friends over.
Props to the editor of this video- seeing the dev compare his game to dark souls, only for it to immediately cut to a 9 year old winning the tournament made my day
Rumor has it that if you say "29.99, none of that $60 multiplayer-only bullshit" in to a mirror 3 times with the lights off, Cliff appears and makes you feel like shit
Actually looks kinda cool tho and resembles the Facepunch logo so idk he could just say he's a real big fan of GMod or Rust. Not quite as bad as the Uganda Knuckles tattoo.
Cliffy is the definition of a snake. He talks trash about everything, and then when he needs something, he'll start to tell them to "let it go". The PC community is fine without him.
So is the Xbox community- we built him up and he spat in our face; gears of war was a big part of my childhood. my friendship with my best friend could be described as a dom and marcus type of brotherhood.
We need more people like him in the gaming community, someone who goes against the majority of opinions and doesn't give a fck, says his honest opinions and does his own thing. A lot of the things he said about the gaming industry i absolutely agree with. Sure he may come off as a jerk, but sometimes jerks are what you need to take things further. Too bad the gaming community nowdays is so sensitive and they're all bunch of snowflakes. They care more about some old Twitter posts than the actual product.
God, that line about “wanting to make another billion dollar IP”. You’d think Cliffy B couldn’t be any more arrogant and narcissistic but than he delivers that doozy.
That was actually me... I didn't know the game was shutdown untill i downloaded and tried to open the game. My computer was a mess back then. When i finally upped my PC i wanted try a few games i couldn't play. It's sad that they couldn't survive :(
@@skininja1747 also how is killing Joel the way he did not a big F-ck you to the audience? Especially in the narrative context of the game, it was basically needlessly done in every sense of the story to gain some sort of shock value. He probably was hoping It’d be like Bioshock in the way he presents such philosophical ideas, and Poppa pump even domes Joel with a Nine iron, like Ryan in Bioshock.
@@skininja1747 it’s not that he killed Joel off that’s the problem. The problem is that it was done in the most re-tarded way possible. The way it was executed it might as well be for shock value because it was handled really poorly not just from a narrative perspective but from a character one as well. For me the last of us 2 isnt necessarily a terrible game but it’s very mediocre from a story-perspective and the ending is deeply unsatisfying
@@brianestrada1993 honestly the game was competent being fun, but the marketing and Cliff B saying shit over shit about how his game was nothing like the others ruined it, also the fact everyone that said the game was fun was paid to say that didn't help the game to get popular
Honestly, I'm not even "triggered" because they compare it to Overwatch, I couldn't give less of a fuck. What actually grinds me is that 20-something lowlife comparing it to Unreal Tournament. That's fucking heresy.
how to promote your game: "i want a billion dollar ip" "insult the games with the biggest audience" "insult the current market" "insult xbox" "insult anime fans"
It's crazy going down the rabbit hole of general gaming videos from 2015 - 2017 and seeing the love and affection for Overwatch and then from 2017 - 2021 the disappointment and negativity. Blizzard have become talented at ruining franchises.
@@truthpurpose Overwatch was bad from the start. Played the beta and was already bored. The only reason people played it is because of the anime/comic-ish artstyle and everyone wanted to play Tracer. Thats literally the only reason people kept playing it. It had zero redeeming qualities except good short-films.
ME: *sips coffee* "hm, yes, this is definitely the mass effect of coffees" BARISTA: "I am actually begging you to leave" ME: "this chair is the Fallout of furniture" BARISTA: *sobbing* ME: "vibeo gane,"
One of the best shooters I ever played. I was a Beta tester and preordered the game based off what I had played, however it not being free to play was a real kick in the nuts to most people who were interested in it. Then there was also a problem with how the release version of the game made some shitty nerfs to characters, made the game run worse on older hardware than the beta, and released the stupidest most broken character ever that nobody wanted to play anything else.
It was a great game. Cliffy really fucked everything up, especially when he decided to charge $29.99 for the game instead of keeping it F2P. It was one of the best shooters that I've played to date because it reminded me of the good ol' days on Quake and UT.
I played it it wasn't bad... maybe a bit too fast and some abilities were maybe a bit too strong etc.. but that's to be expected at the start of a games life cycle. Never really liked quake etc but this was'nt bad... But never go from f2p to paid like what the heck?
It was insanely fun. Super unique combat with the Zero G zone, and had INSANE ceiling for movement tech etc. I actually have a couple clips of the kind of movement you could do in it saved. I really miss it. Too bad Cliff is a braindead idiot and the production company (nexon) just didn't know AT ALL wtf the market was doing at that time. Collapsed so fast.
They probably could of let it be and it would have a population maybe like quake champions, dead but not completely dead, you can usually always find a match “rather” quickly
He gets mad when they compare his game to another game but then he proudly compares his game to overwatch and dark souls. He acts like joe Rogan fans when other people call Rogan and a moron and idiot, they get mad at those people, but when it’s time to for these fans to defend Joe Rogan on his hot takes, they proudly use ‘’hey guys c’mon; he’s not an expert. He’s a moron and he even calls himself a moron’’ Fuck these people and fuck cliffy Bitch lmao
An 8 year old can easily beat dark souls. 90% of dark souls' difficulty comes from not knowing what is going to kill you, what is going to surprise 1 shot you, not stuff you can actually predict and react to. An 8 year old beating it wouldn't take much longer than me or you.
@@michaelquinn8064 He said it comes from surprise 1 shots that you can't predict or react to, and if you can't see the difference between what I said and that, you should probably retake an english course.
Cliff feels like a frat boy, game designer. I feel like he sells the ideas of his games like, “play this and you’ll get laid. My games are totally cool, bro”
Keep in mind that his claim to fame is Gears of War. I'm a Gears fan, myself, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't 90% testosterone and musclebound dudes.
He's just a mediocre bro at heart. Plenty of people that worked on his teams were candid in interviews about him basically being absent from the actual work in favor of playing hotshot in fancy sports cars around town.
I mean the only difference is now they show gameplay but still the same shills. Only statement cliff was right on was the same 5 games with different eras or maybe guns
@@happymerchant2385 you know it dude... chicks with purple hair.... come on.... its the easiest signal that says "im insufferable and i hate you because your white"
@@animerestoration2701 Everyone is reading from the same script. And seeing the footage of these overacting shills just turns me off completely, makes me NOT want to be part of that cancerous community. I don't want to be together with a bunch of douchebags screaming at the computer.
I love how he's trying to be so super different so instead of going for a nice stylised artstyle that sets it apart from any other shooter, he goes out of his way to make it look just like every other bland looking shooter we've seen over the past decade
@@dotwashere4498 well the problem is that those games don’t care about great scenarios with makes real life look brand, but if you look at games like red dead redemption 2 and ghost of Tsushima and you are stunned by how beautiful they look
@@courier6960 Today's game Devs do the same thing these days too but they try to look like they have the virtuous moral high ground while doing so, and straight up fight their fans on social media.
Step 1: develop a game with a trite concept Step 2: shit all over your potential consumer base Step 3: ? Step 4: prof- oh what’s that? Oh the game didn’t sell?
Can you even imagine anything more childish? Refusing to put your game on a perfectly good console just because you personally don’t like it? And then say “haha those fanboys kinda salty though” in a professional interview as if you are cool or something for doing that?
Despite all of that. He's a horrible businessman. That's potential money you're throwing for trying to sound like a a fan boy for consoles. That's our job. This man is not about his money
Yeah that stuff and the part where he was gloating about how salty the XBox fans were. Grow up you fucking loser. So glad this game died and he's no longer relevant. I have no interest in consoles and am very glad that war seems to finally be dead, but you want to release to a wider audience so everyone can play. Excluding one platform because you're a little bitch won't get you any praise.
you know...as a concept artist I always feel so sorry for all the amazingly talented people that work behind the scenes on awesome concept arts, animations, models and such and see these games fail so badly because of the horrible management.
@@awbr1991 to be fair, idk if you actually played the game, but the art was not nearly as good as it looked in the trailers. It was all one big monochrome soup. I remember even setting the graphics to the highest setting and realizing that I still couldn’t really tell the difference between the characters and the buildings around them. So it wasn’t just Cliff’s terrible PR strategy, there were also some serious mistakes in the formation of the game.
did you save china yet? #playthegamesyouwant edit: hey guys im done replying. if you have a grievance please read my other comments. 3 months later blizzard is still making games and china still suffering. yee haw
"I understand you have feelings, but this is business." I can't believe any human could reach a level of arrogance needed to have a big, proud, public chuckle at the people who made you everything you are. You like talking business, Mr. Complex Last name, here are a few terms. "Brand loyalty." "PR". "Consumer Confidence". Oh. Almost forgot. "Bankruptcy".
You shouldn't have to defend a game and a company with horrible PR like this, and it's perfectly fine to let your view of a person influence a product, but what he says outwardly is no different at all than what almost every other company uses as their business model. So many companies will only see their fanbase as numbers on a screen and dollars in the bank because it's the only thing they can afford to see them as, he's right, it is a business and he doesn't have to pander to your feelings or views on the matter. The only thing I begrudge this man is making people believe he is the problem when he's actually made people feel comfortable with their first impressions. The only thing that makes this man different is his extreme extroversion and outward PR model, he is no different, and if you abhor this game and this company only because of this behavior, you show to him and other companies that the flowery bullshit that they spew to make people feel safe works, and to deviate from that means you will suffer. You are punishing honesty when he is at as much fault as the other big companies, gaming or otherwise.
And now we can say it back to him. "I get that you have feelings, cool, but this is business Clifford." Too many in the games industry want a rabid, fanatical fanbase, but don't want to deal with the consequences.
@@SomeOne-vf1rs forgot that the flowery bullshit that they spew to make people feel safe actually works. Why do you think PR is so important. They see you as a number, but they know, that people don't buy with that mindset. The feelings of your consumer base are important, to a certain degree. People even avoid watching movies with actors they don't like for any personal reason. Which is why the Picture you give the public has to be somewhat neutral and over all positive. It helps the numbers.
@@The.Orange.Wizard given how Dark Souls is notorious to many as a very challenging game, far more difficult than many AA and AAA games of its time and to some extent even today, Cliffy likely threw that line around to be very clearly smug about how Lawbreakers is a game that only the most super skilled pro FPS players can play. It would have made more sense and perhaps less cringy if he compared it to Quake and Unreal Tournaments, multiplayer games known for having a skill floor high enough that only those with the skills and tenacity can keep up
Cliffy Bitch is so fucking corny lmao The insecure Bitch complains more about the criticism and comments than actually seeming cool or sure of himself lol
This, I can't believe the arrogance. How can you try to enter an over saturated market, offer nothing new and then expect to charge 30$ when a lot of your competitors have FTP options. They called me mad in the Battleborn forums for saying not being FTP and releasing next to Over Watch was suicide, where's their game now?
It's honestly hilarious that the advertisements tried so hard to say that it was hardcore and difficult and made for adults and then a team with a little kid wins an official match. There's a reason why many games are so casual and colorful now, a vast majority of players WANT that. The moment Cliff said it was the Dark Souls of hero shooters and tried to compare itself to Overwatch when that game alone has over 30 million players [and people already had the free alternative, Paladins] AND they decided to slap a price-tag after saying it was F2P, they shot themselves on the foot.
You know why Fortnite gave(and is still giving) that hugeee competition to PUBG? Coz it's free. Had Battle Royale mode for Fortnite been 30$, nobody would have given two fucks about it. 30$ from F2P was a dick move.
It feels weird looking back on this, since there's a lot of decent points that Cliffy B touched on that are legitimate complaints, but he just went about expressing them in a terrible way, or learned the exact wrong lesson from them. 1. AAA games were incredibly oversaturated in 2015 with old I.P's. 2. Leading with PC first *does* allow them to port onto consoles more easily if they do a lot of the legwork and establish a solid PC build first. 3. eSports was overhyped (and we're now currently living through its bubble bursting), and felt like it was crammed into every game. All of these are valid, and somehow he just communicated them in such a caustic way that nobody wanted to touch it.
@@benjaminkey5810the game was killed by the insane business strategy and the lead’s insufferable personality. Terrible marketing didn’t help. Never even heard about this game in 17
@@benjaminkey5810this. Naturally overtime people tend to be less critical of things. Game sucked, people forget because there's been so many other and more recent bad games.
Conta da Familia ps you can do the same with overwatch. Not only have I made custom game of hitscans and called it ‘lawbreakers’ you can have a similar experience at Horizon Lunar Colony
UT2K4 is dead as fuck. Still boot it up every couple months or so and search for games in the background/idle and see if anyone appears. You can find people playing Deathmatch, but not much else. Also Ross Scott, who runs Accursed Farms and Freeman's Mind has UT2K4 PuGs that get pretty big.
It sounds unprofessional, feels like your friend from school telling you about this new awesome game he likes cause is better than the other, and not like someone trying to sell it to you
I don't mind it being unprofessional, the problem is that it's almost ALWAYS "trying to be cool" when it's not. Look how edgy they are oooh, it always comes off as tone deaf.
@@Mekose Same man, I actually would like if more CEOs would lose the facade and just say what they wanna say, cuss here and there. But some of these guys arent trying to be "real", they're trying to connect to younger people or something. Exactly like this guy, it was just annoying.
it's honestly nice to see games like Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man's Sky outgrow the content we see in Crowbcat's compilations, but the schadenfreude in this video will continue to age like a fine wine
Cyberpunk is just a bit more content and making it stable enough to not brick your console/PC. It is still fundamentally mediocre. No Man's Sky still has the most impressive glow up among games in decades.
@@zOMGGaiaOnline I think this was the time where a guy sold deathstranding because it was boring and bought TLOU2 because its fun, then kojima just roasted the fuck out of him (or maybe another topic I dunno)
Dude wtf i looked up the player count and it said 12 currently playing. I thought i wasn't reading it right. Garfield go kart racing has more active players
It refers to the fact Dark souls is unique in it's difficulty curve. Most games spoon feed you and hold your hand and it's lame. Dark souls gives you a challenge Dark souls isn't hard per se but its hard to learn. Once you get it down it's not so hard.
Everyone who played it got paid by them, it was pretty hilarious to see everyone on Twitch stop playing it and going back to Overwatch as soon as they weren't paid to play it anymore.
Leanify TV I tried it on launch, it had potential. Problem is as the title suggests, the market is saturated and there isn't enough special things sepersting this game from the rest.
Just imagine the Dark Souls of shooters. It's nothing at all like Overwatch, you can't compare it to anything, you can't compare it to Overwatch. It's the Dark Souls of shooters. Overwatch.
Maybe they have got the gameplay down but every else is quite bland. The skins and weapons feel like CoD. The character design is also very CoD but since it is much more class based, they should have really try that Overwatch kind of design with distinct silhouette and contrasting colors. If they want to keep their design they should have just make different class as different loadout and those load out have different silhouette. Alas, the nail in the coffin is really the over-saturated market. The competitive crowd prefers CS, the casual fun prefers CoD, the big map guys prefers BF or PUBG, the more team guys prefers Siege or Overwatch. Hell, even the niche is filled with Titanfall and Destiny. If he wanted to have a place in the market. He should have waited for CoD's fall then replacing them as the fast pace quick match casual fun guy.
They tried to do something new, they created something, that's cool. I have respect for that. But saying it's "not comparable" to anything else, especially games in the same exact genre released around the same time, playable and marketed to the same audience... that's just egotistical. LawBreakers is interesting but it looks a lot like Destiny mixed with Overwatch. Similar mechanics, similar objectives, weapons, views, etc. And yeah, TF2 is kind of the one everyone wanted to be when they were making this. People want to copy success. Putting their own spin on something is easier than making something new and sometimes, it works and we get something more fun than the original. LawBreakers just wasn't that original and Blizzard is really good at being Blizzard.
Steam charts 2020 update:
Current players: 0
Last 30 day Average: 0.2
Looks like someone accidentally opened the game.
That someone was probably Cliff
Most likely someone out there still has the game installed and it's doing the automatic cloud sync thing that sometimes registers as someone playing.
Lol 😂😂
oh that was me i was trying to get the cards
Oops sorry dude misclicked, i was trying to open another game before
“I think we’ve made the DarkSo-“
How to instantly get across how out of touch you are with 5.5 words
Foreign Wun don’t compare anything to Dark souls LOL ITS TO LEGENDARY
@@BeastModeSteez but dark souls is just like demon souls
@@aaronforsythe8556 indeed
By the year 2087 this entire planet will be Dark Souls. You'll see....
All the soulsborne games are masterpieces of a video game, but the entire "____ is the dark souls of ____" is so overused that it gives dark souls a negative connotation.
He made people hate him by opening his mouth. This is the worst marketing I’ve seen in my life
Bf v has to be worse tough.
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Ehh, their marketing was ok personally
A lot of people bought it and saw it at launch, it just became less appealing over time
@@BigslattYSL No Battlefield v was definitely worse at marketing they literally told people not to buy thier shitty game.
@@BigslattYSL did you completely forget what they did, or do you just genuinely not know?
Alex Hodson his whole attitude whenever he promoted lawbreakers was befitting of someone who was merely clout chasing.
"You have feelings, that's cool, but this is a fucking business" - Man who openly rejected and mocked half of his target market on a whim
So you guess what happens?
His target market fucked him over...
Now in Contrast we have elden ring that sold over millions of copies at launch and more than 350 thousand pre orders
What's worse is that those "fanboys" were the fanbase he made with GOW. He shat on his own fans and then turned around to shit on PC players to get them back.
@@Terraqueo22he made a game that appealed to no one. He didn't get fucked over by the market. He's a moron
Massive L on his end
@@kira-dk2mx He already made a name and plenty of money off of Gears of War at that point he didn't want to keep making Gears of War which is why he left.
Lawbreakers did poorly because it couldn't compete with PvZ Garden Warfare 2
Tf2 basically died by that
*roflmao react*
Next overwatch will die to the emoji movie game
Mom I liked the first pvz garden warfare so I'm not surprised
That game is the KING of the fps genre
"those Xbox fanboys are pretty salty"
"Well ya know they supported you for years..."
I love Geoff Keighley
Engorged Enrique may hate Keighley with a passion, but god damn is the man likeable
When I first saw Geoff in one of Crowbcat's videos, I just assumed he'd be part of the phony marketing machinery, but I have realized he's a nice guy and a real gamer at heart.
Cliff was right though and it was PC who made him famous.
About Kojima
The man himself wanted Cliff to join Silent hills team but Cliff refused
@fresh coom Yeah well thats the exact oppsite of his words but lets say he doesnt treat it like a business well guess what he showed his true colors he was really biased and really full of himself
>”Can’t compare it to other games”
>”It’s like Overwatch but better”
Ok
"It's the dark souls of shooters"
@@davidvasey5065 why are you saying this in every reply lol. you're the one who needs a life
@@chimichangas1432 lol
I could see it as titanfall mixed with overwatch
Look at 04:57, that's suppose to be the models of two different characters, that's some poor design decisions.
It never fails to amaze me how much of a stone cold pro Geoff Keighley is. When the dev said "Xbox fanboys are pretty salty" you can tell Geoff is like "wtf is wrong w this dude" but instead he claps back with the "well they supported you for a long time." lol made dude look like a fool.
He is also the one who hit back at the Xbox exec, when they made the new Xbox online only, with "Thats your message: Stick with 360?" The Dorito pope certainly has his moments.
@@tropictiger2387 you did not just call him the dorito pope 💀
dorito bishop whatevs
@@tropictiger2387 yeah hahaha
That's because that Geoff guy is a robot who is dead inside anyways. I don't think anything would ever faze him.
Imagine being one of the guys who got a tattoo of this game, rip
When I saw that I said he’s going to regret that but the design looks cool just not the game
OffBeatBerry 27 what’s the true meaning
@@prokilleridk5924 It's a tattoo about a game that died in months, so if anyone asks him about the inspiration for the tattoo they're not gonna know what the game is
Franco Gonzalez aerogel is awesome
That man become lawbreakers grave
This game looks like a game that you’d see someone play in a movie/tv show with their controls turned off.
Like the game Michael's son in GTA V was playing in his room
it could had a chance when Overwatch 2 was announce
You mean in porn
this
nailed it
"those xbox fanboys can be a bit salty"-Cliff " well... They did support you for years" - Geoff
Geoff always keeps it real
Thought that was super cool of Geoff to say. He was so quick and on it to say that. XD
god bless mr keighleys soul
It was a game which was done better with forge in xbox 360 halo games using gravity lifts and gravity wells
I think one of the reasons that lawbreakers failed was because 1) it was a exclusive so not everyone could play it and people thought it was scummy. And 2) the fps genre is so oversaturated that there was like 2 other fps games that did what lawbreaker tried to do but better
The best part is when Cliff throws away a third of potential profits all out of spite for Xbox and then is like "this is a business"
Yes, because Cliff has a big douche ego and he should've continued to work with Gears/Microsoft.
if you are the type of person to have petty bullshit rivalries that will lead you to do something like this you probably shouldn't be leading a company
He wasn't in the business of making money.
@@TheGreenTaco999 If you throw away such a major source of revenue over such a petty reason you should not be leading a company. Cliffy B might have some decent ideas but he has the business acumen of an utter r tard.
@@MrZiggy-sk2wg It feels like you don't know the business world. Plenty of that going around. You just don't apply your pettiness to corporations that can crush yours.
“Yeah those Xbox fanboys are pretty salty.”
“Yeah, well they supported you for a long time, so...”
My brain almost stopped functioning when I heard that the first time.
This guy is so out of touch lmao “haha xbox bad funny funny”
@@Nomad0311 I mean,to some people they still are. We call those people stupid
Well, to be fair the creator of God of War has said even worse things about Sony fanboys
@@ElFenixNocturno to be fair they separated their personal feelings from their business
"LawBreakers, the game that did even worse than BattleBorn"
"What the hell is BattleBorn?"
"Exactly!"
... Battleborn 😭😭😭
More like blunderborn
I've heard of Battleborn (All I remember is that it had a Mushroom character? That might be a different game though.) but this video is the first time I've ever heard of Lawbreakers.
Battleborn actually had a lot of potential but it was ruined by bad art direction and Twitter-tier political nonsense.
@@pearz420 Not bad art direction and twitter politics. It failed because it was an average game in an oversaturated market. A hero shooter after overwatch, with MOBA elements after League, combining the worst of them both, that being the issue of League games being too long and too serious to be a fun game to jump on for a little bit, and the issue of overwatch being that so many characters means many aren't balanced.
Add in that it advertised a campaign, but it was super short levels and always-online, and it's death by a thousand cuts. If I wanted to play a fun hero shooter, I'd play overwatch. If I wanted to play a MOBA, I'd play League. They're clashing genres, so they're not going to work well together. We learnt this with SMNC, I don't know why they ignored the signs and made a game like that anyway.
I think the rudeness of this guy helped it fail
Cause he betrayed his core audience. You can't spend years building a core following only to then turn your back on those people who gave you the funds to build more. I think this downfall was completely justified on account of his rudeness as you put it best.
Lawbreakers... He's more marketing than game now...
He manages to be a douchebag whenever he shows up or starts talking
It did
He definitely doesnt come across as someone who is in it for the customers or the game
Imagine. The concord devs STARTED working on there game and SAW this game flop. They THEN decided to push on. WILD
What's funny is that Concord is less original than this. Concord is just OW plus Guardians of the Galaxy
@@johnbacon4997they should’ve did what overwatch did and make something else with that money because halo changed into an fps
As of May 14, 2018, Boss Key Productions, the studio that brought you the "Dark Souls of competitive first-person shooters" has shutdown. According to the Cliff himself, the studio is "effectively no more." He was later found in his garage trying to sell the entire studio and its assets for "29.99, none of that 60-dollar multiplayer-only bullshit."
lmao
Fucking lol
Extremely underrated comment, mate
Boi that ending 5*
Sorry guys, but this is a business
This guy has negative charisma. I feel for the poor devs in his team who were probably depressed everytime Cliff opened his mouth and alienated another bunch of potential fans
Cliff bleszinski was a PR nightmare cringe everywhere
@@mercenum5186 He's always been that way. Fucker was an advocate for the initial Xbox One DRM plan.
cr0mag I disagree. Blezinski has always been greatly charismatic.
@@theespatier4456 You got a strange idea of charisma...
@@theespatier4456 Stop going online to defend yourself Cliff! We all know it's you.
Cliffy was real proud of that “$29.99, none of that $60, multiplayer-only bullshit” line
Well it is a fun line to say.
Truly a pickle rick moment right there
@@ratman202 doesn’t mean it’s a good one, but I feel like it was just cliffy’s general mood that ruined it
Cliffy is so easy not to like
He woke up in a cold sweat at night, his body shooting up right. "Thats it.....its perfect."
All of these hero based shooters constantly popping up and yet nobody is bothering to make a Villain based shooter
People do it irl in the USA. Their favorite maps are elementary schools.
Spec ops the line
@@mgsxmikeAs a viewer of them, I must say they’re competitive matches are crazy. One guy went for a 26 kill streak before the games’ survival round happened. The SWAT squads were damn bullet sponges.
Even saw another game where the cops had glitched out with 90 or so of them just standing outside. Guy could’ve went for a higher score but choked hard at the end.
Thats call of duty when they blammed US warcrimes on russia
@@mgsxmikeso the feds
The guy with that lawbreakers tattoo must be regretting life rn
He probably will try to laser it xD
The tattoo was still cool. Since lawbreakers collectively left society’s conscience, he can probably just pass it off as something else
LB was and the best heroshooter what you could play, I regret pople that didnt play it + deadzo is very cool emoticon
hes probably out there passing it off as an original idea
Probably a henna tatoo
If you ever feel embarrassed about a stupid choice you've made in your life, just remember there are people out there with Lawbreakers tattoos.
LITERALLY Suicide rates drops to 0%
Paid shills there’s no one who gave a shit about lawbreakers
To be fair the logo isnt that bad, you can always say "ya i thought this random smiley looks cool"
Gee, l really do feel better now about switching my grandpa's life support outlet to charge my phone now
@@MONSTERKILL2013 He's a hypocrite, he told you that you were relying too much on technology. Look who's talking.
"i was shaking after the match" said by 4 different totally unpaid people
It could had such potential you know
Shaking cause they were held at gunpoint to say that
MY HANDS ARE SHAKING, BUT IAM STILL SHOOTIN; BOOM HEADSHOOOT
@@TheGoMetal most like my L1 doesn't work anymore because of how hard I press teleport every time someone tries to flank me.
To be fair, it was a pretty intense game. Just like after playing a game of Quake Champions or Titanfall 2, it left a pretty intense feeling in your body.
5:18 is just baffling. People asked Cliffy if his hyper-masculine bro-shooter might be an Esport, and he reacted with utter contempt. It’s like he was begging people to ignore Lawbreakers.
He's a genuine moron lol
Esports are cringe, just like regular sports
@@beastabuelos6421 at least regular sports has bloopers, E sports don’t even have that.
@@beastabuelos6421 Found the kid that never got invited to play lmao
@@beastabuelos6421 tell me you’re a loser without telling me you’re loser 😭
This game was so forgotten after it's launch that i haven't heard about it till i saw this video
Dogo trio same I didn’t even know this game existed.
@@briannam1082 same
Ikr...I was like wtf...when did this became a thing
it was shut down around 2018 if i remember correctly, doesnt even last a year
I literally forgot about it.
The guy explaining why his game is special and unique while wearing a Rick and Morty T-shirt is a perfect picture.
Infinite universe's?
@@mr.mysteriousyt6118 talking about unique while wearing the most ununique T-shirt
lmfao
"You need to have a high IQ to truly appreciate this game"
Show is ass but the VA for Morty was in LawBreakers
If your whole game’s marketing shtick is “I’m not like the other girls” you probably won’t get too many players.
I literally love your comment so much!
I'm stealing this.
Especially in a market where most guys are already with other girls. You won't get many players by proposing they break up with their current games AND move their friends over.
I know right. Just a bunch of fools.
It’s funny because Valorant got hype BECAUSE it was like other girls
Props to the editor of this video- seeing the dev compare his game to dark souls, only for it to immediately cut to a 9 year old winning the tournament made my day
9 year olds can beat dark souls too bro
@ True, I just thought it made for a funny joke in this context
Rumor has it that if you say "29.99, none of that $60 multiplayer-only bullshit" in to a mirror 3 times with the lights off, Cliff appears and makes you feel like shit
Rumor says the Cliff developers dont keep mirrors because they see LawBreaks staring at them in the mirror.
As soon as I looked at this comment the video started saying what is in quotation marks.
This is one of the best comments I've seen in a while
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner they dropped the free to play model. That's why they failed.
Funny comment. Now go back to pubg you pleb.
Imagine getting a lawbreakers tattoo
Actually looks kinda cool tho and resembles the Facepunch logo so idk he could just say he's a real big fan of GMod or Rust.
Not quite as bad as the Uganda Knuckles tattoo.
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 im sure it means a lot to the person who got it thats all that counts all jokes aside
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 At least you know that a person with this tattoo knows the way.
It can pass tho, the lawbreaker does sound cool
atur chomicz r/foundtheredditor
Dude managed to create a toxic atmosphere around the game before the players even had a chance to do it haha
what a genius
/s
What players? lol
Lmaoooooooooo
Yep all 290 of them in the last hour...
@@Banishedpheasant hey man don't disrespect Lawbreakers fans, there's like 4 of them
Cliffy is the definition of a snake. He talks trash about everything, and then when he needs something, he'll start to tell them to "let it go". The PC community is fine without him.
*Any community
So is the Xbox community- we built him up and he spat in our face; gears of war was a big part of my childhood. my friendship with my best friend could be described as a dom and marcus type of brotherhood.
@@CarmeloA. I feel blessed to have grown up playing splitscreen gears of war with my friends. What a time
@@CarmeloA. Yeah, I bet those "Xbox fanboys" are really sad they didn't get to play Lawbreakers or something. They sure missed out.
We need more people like him in the gaming community, someone who goes against the majority of opinions and doesn't give a fck, says his honest opinions and does his own thing. A lot of the things he said about the gaming industry i absolutely agree with. Sure he may come off as a jerk, but sometimes jerks are what you need to take things further. Too bad the gaming community nowdays is so sensitive and they're all bunch of snowflakes. They care more about some old Twitter posts than the actual product.
“Spider-Man is Spider-Man, try something new for once.”
*Makes a shooter game*
I swear you furries
@@claphamomnibus512 I’m not a furry though?
@@kyles.8332 Oh.. My bad i seem to running into themin comment sections these days
@@claphamomnibus512 It’s alright man, I can see how you came to that conclusion
Dingodile might be my favorite Crash character
Anyone that claims their own game is the Dark Souls of anything is a good warning the game is unoriginal.
I was thinking the same thing when I heard that.
Washboard Man Overwatch is like the dark souls of lootboxes
Or is it Battlefront? 🤔
Well that, and it being an "online multiplayer-only" game with a triple digit player base at most. Good like finding a match.
Washboard Man l
Crowbcat is the Dark Souls of youtube channels.
Alex Gregory because he is always so hard
Glider McGlide crowbcat is dark souls bootcamp because it makes YOU hard.
;^)
This is the dark souls of comments
This is the Sixty Dollars Multiplayer Only Bullshit of replies.
Nah he is a troll
God, that line about “wanting to make another billion dollar IP”. You’d think Cliffy B couldn’t be any more arrogant and narcissistic but than he delivers that doozy.
@That Leo Yeah… he’s pretty obnoxious. Having said that, I really like Unreal Tournament and Gears. But I’m not surprised he’s out of the industry.
I was just thinking that. He really thought that he could make lightning strike twice.
@@leeartlee915he's apparently making another game soon. This is, of course, after his own studio flopped
@@exmachina1405 Well he’s not really qualified to do anything else. Not surprised.
@@leeartlee915 yeah, I think the success of his first franchises went straight to his head
Just checked this on steam charts:
Last 30 Days, avg. players 1.0
That's Cliff Bleszinski logging in and crying.
They closed the game
This by the devs of fortnite, which became so big as you know they had every dev migrate and focus into fortnite. They had to shut down the game
@@diegoferreiro7432 what in the fuck are you on about
That was actually me... I didn't know the game was shutdown untill i downloaded and tried to open the game.
My computer was a mess back then. When i finally upped my PC i wanted try a few games i couldn't play. It's sad that they couldn't survive :(
Its crazy to me how quickly some games die
Here is a great advice:
Don't give a middle finger to a part of your fanbase for no reason just to sound cool.
If you cater to a market for a game, stick to that market. Don’t just throw them away to score “cool points”
@@lord_blackhand3291 NEIL DRUCKMANN AT IT’S FINEST
@@skininja1747 he kinda did, especially with the way he handles criticism from said fans.
@@skininja1747 also how is killing Joel the way he did not a big F-ck you to the audience? Especially in the narrative context of the game, it was basically needlessly done in every sense of the story to gain some sort of shock value. He probably was hoping It’d be like Bioshock in the way he presents such philosophical ideas, and Poppa pump even domes Joel with a Nine iron, like Ryan in Bioshock.
@@skininja1747 it’s not that he killed Joel off that’s the problem. The problem is that it was done in the most re-tarded way possible.
The way it was executed it might as well be for shock value because it was handled really poorly not just from a narrative perspective but from a character one as well.
For me the last of us 2 isnt necessarily a terrible game but it’s very mediocre from a story-perspective and the ending is deeply unsatisfying
"You can't compare it to anything"
Literally the next person.
"Like Overwatch..."
And Unreal Tournament, and Titanfall!
No you can't compare those games to lawbreakers because they are actually good XD lawbreakers is more like cappy ass Battleborn
Damn i was gonna put that as my comment
@@brianestrada1993 honestly the game was competent being fun, but the marketing and Cliff B saying shit over shit about how his game was nothing like the others ruined it, also the fact everyone that said the game was fun was paid to say that didn't help the game to get popular
Honestly, I'm not even "triggered" because they compare it to Overwatch, I couldn't give less of a fuck. What actually grinds me is that 20-something lowlife comparing it to Unreal Tournament. That's fucking heresy.
Cliff thought he was an asset to the game but he was, in fact, a liability.
LMAO
poor game too. I didn't get to play it but from what I've seen and heard the game was pretty decent.
@@thefreeden Was pretty good, would probably be popular nowdays with it's heavy emphasis on movement.
“When this game hits, we hope we’ll never be done for years.”
Bro, you were done in weeks.
Weeks? Kinda generous there
Between this and radical heights its clearly evident gears of war was such a long time ago..."whats radical heights?!" i hear you ask...EXACTLY XD
Weeks? They were done before it even launched lmfao
@@channelofliquidharmonics8905 LOL you just unlocked a memory I forgot I even had.
@@bletrick3352 LOL XD i wish i could delete mine
"Everyone's dead, everyone" Yep. Even the game.
Edit: And the studio too.
Ouch
Oof
Big oof
Except kirby
Lmao I can’t believe you just guessed the world of light for smash bros
"It's not comparable, you can't compare it to anything"
Literally the next second:
"It's like Overwatch"
Spined1234 "It's the Dark Souls of competitive shooters"
Spined1234 well that’s the joke
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. Rip Concord.
how to promote your game:
"i want a billion dollar ip"
"insult the games with the biggest audience"
"insult the current market"
"insult xbox"
"insult anime fans"
We know how much the "insulting anime fans" tagline works, thanks to Mighty No. 9.
He is so damn easy not to like.
and say its the dark souls of said genre.
@@keeyon012 Man do I love a good game of Gex
@@danieladams3084 Did someone say Gex?!
"Blizzard can do no wrong"
That statement aged about as well as his game did.
dO yOu GuYs NoT hAvE pHoNeS?
The man lurched all the way from condescending to patronizing.
It's crazy going down the rabbit hole of general gaming videos from 2015 - 2017 and seeing the love and affection for Overwatch and then from 2017 - 2021 the disappointment and negativity. Blizzard have become talented at ruining franchises.
@@truthpurpose and become talented on reaching the news every hour about sexual assault or toxic work spaces.
@@truthpurpose Overwatch was bad from the start. Played the beta and was already bored. The only reason people played it is because of the anime/comic-ish artstyle and everyone wanted to play Tracer. Thats literally the only reason people kept playing it. It had zero redeeming qualities except good short-films.
Whenever I hear "it's dark souls of..." i die a little
that first clip when he says that and buddy(co worker maybe) looks into the camera like "....huh?" holy f that was perfect
The dark souls of the youtube comments.
ME: *sips coffee* "hm, yes, this is definitely the mass effect of coffees"
BARISTA: "I am actually begging you to leave"
ME: "this chair is the Fallout of furniture"
BARISTA: *sobbing*
ME: "vibeo gane,"
This game is like the Dark Souls of video games.
@@cartridgechokers I am the dark souls of dark souls
7:44 is just the normal reaction of a group of people seeing Cliff.
I love this comment.
“Those Xbox fanboys are pretty salty”
Yeah we sure missed out on this one...
Lol
Be glad man
Scalebound
@@brianestrada1993 Dat shit hurty
😂😂😂😂
I didn't even know Lawbreakers was out...
TheFrostedfirefly yeah cuz their marketing was ass
RoyalTuxedo I actually saw tons of ads for the game, just ignored them because it looked like ass lmfao
TheFrostedfirefly and it's already a dead game lol
TheFrostedfirefly same. It didn't seem to get promoted at all.
I haven't been following games in general but based on the name I was expecting cowboys
The sad part is that the gameplay looked actually a bit fun , but that marketing murdered the fan base before launch.
It was fun
One of the best shooters I ever played. I was a Beta tester and preordered the game based off what I had played, however it not being free to play was a real kick in the nuts to most people who were interested in it. Then there was also a problem with how the release version of the game made some shitty nerfs to characters, made the game run worse on older hardware than the beta, and released the stupidest most broken character ever that nobody wanted to play anything else.
It was a great game. Cliffy really fucked everything up, especially when he decided to charge $29.99 for the game instead of keeping it F2P. It was one of the best shooters that I've played to date because it reminded me of the good ol' days on Quake and UT.
I played it it wasn't bad... maybe a bit too fast and some abilities were maybe a bit too strong etc.. but that's to be expected at the start of a games life cycle.
Never really liked quake etc but this was'nt bad...
But never go from f2p to paid like what the heck?
Lol i never knew anything about this game, until today when youtube recommend this video
Lawbreakers looked like a lot of fun. By the time I had heard it was shutting down I didn’t even realize it had released.
It was insanely fun. Super unique combat with the Zero G zone, and had INSANE ceiling for movement tech etc. I actually have a couple clips of the kind of movement you could do in it saved. I really miss it.
Too bad Cliff is a braindead idiot and the production company (nexon) just didn't know AT ALL wtf the market was doing at that time. Collapsed so fast.
It was shutting down as soon as it released
it was shut down before release
I wanted to try it too but Cliffy B shot himself in the foot
They probably could of let it be and it would have a population maybe like quake champions, dead but not completely dead, you can usually always find a match “rather” quickly
"Not comparable to anything"
half a second later
"Like Overwatch"
He gets mad when they compare his game to another game but then he proudly compares his game to overwatch and dark souls. He acts like joe Rogan fans when other people call Rogan and a moron and idiot, they get mad at those people, but when it’s time to for these fans to defend Joe Rogan on his hot takes, they proudly use ‘’hey guys c’mon; he’s not an expert. He’s a moron and he even calls himself a moron’’
Fuck these people and fuck cliffy Bitch lmao
@@steverogers7601 fuck Joe Rogan
"We made the Dark Souls of competitive first person shooters"
*8 year old wins tournament*
An 8 year old can easily beat dark souls. 90% of dark souls' difficulty comes from not knowing what is going to kill you, what is going to surprise 1 shot you, not stuff you can actually predict and react to. An 8 year old beating it wouldn't take much longer than me or you.
When they said that line I immediately knew they never played quake or serious Sam multiplayer
@@zain6008 Dark Souls difficulty comes from being prepared and careful, what are you on about? It's just patience my man.
@@pwnerj thats what he said..
@@michaelquinn8064 He said it comes from surprise 1 shots that you can't predict or react to, and if you can't see the difference between what I said and that, you should probably retake an english course.
Cliff feels like a frat boy, game designer. I feel like he sells the ideas of his games like, “play this and you’ll get laid. My games are totally cool, bro”
Keep in mind that his claim to fame is Gears of War. I'm a Gears fan, myself, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't 90% testosterone and musclebound dudes.
@@paragonrobbie9270 gears 1 and 2 are masterpieces compared to the trash of today.
He's that PC Principal from south park IRL 😂
He's just a mediocre bro at heart. Plenty of people that worked on his teams were candid in interviews about him basically being absent from the actual work in favor of playing hotshot in fancy sports cars around town.
The ironic thing that it totally the marketing of the xbox. That is the platform you want this kind of game on.
"Lawbreakers delusion in an oversaturated market" was such a legendary title for a video
Yeah no idea why he'd change it. Unless he wants to reuse that title for a Concord video...
"I think the marketing will be a big part of it"
Shows us virtually no gameplay and a bunch of shills and "influencers" saying it's 2cool
find it kinda weird how a lot said they were "shaking" after a match lol
I bet most of them are from Commiefornia.
I mean the only difference is now they show gameplay but still the same shills. Only statement cliff was right on was the same 5 games with different eras or maybe guns
@@happymerchant2385 you know it dude... chicks with purple hair.... come on.... its the easiest signal that says "im insufferable and i hate you because your white"
@@animerestoration2701 Everyone is reading from the same script. And seeing the footage of these overacting shills just turns me off completely, makes me NOT want to be part of that cancerous community. I don't want to be together with a bunch of douchebags screaming at the computer.
“We’ve made the dark souls of first person shooter’s.” - a man who has never played dark souls
among us is way better than Dark Souls AND League of Legends combined.
@@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ nobody cares about Among Us anymore.
@@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ when the imposter is sus😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
@@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ based
@@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ Have you ever played both of those game ye wanker?
I love how he's trying to be so super different so instead of going for a nice stylised artstyle that sets it apart from any other shooter, he goes out of his way to make it look just like every other bland looking shooter we've seen over the past decade
Real life is bland?
@@df938 yes
@@dotwashere4498 well the problem is that those games don’t care about great scenarios with makes real life look brand, but if you look at games like red dead redemption 2 and ghost of Tsushima and you are stunned by how beautiful they look
"Don't make it like that, but make it *look* like that!"
if by "nice stylised artstyle" you mean overwatch... please shut the fuck up
The whole marketing was basically "modern games suck, buy our game :-)"
Not even that, it was more of “you all suck, now watch as I insult and block entire target demographics from ever wanting to play our game”
@@courier6960 "now buy are game you filthy fucking casual."
"Everything are bad, buy our game"
@@courier6960 Today's game Devs do the same thing these days too but they try to look like they have the virtuous moral high ground while doing so, and straight up fight their fans on social media.
Self aware stupidity
“Xbox fanboys can be really salty” bruh PlayStation players don’t even play your game.
I don’t ever remember seeing anything on PS Store about this game being out.
It’s was on there for like a month
I am a ps4 player and never heard about this game lol
As a playstation player i can assure this is true
M8 you got my discord pfp, I had to do a double take
Take a sip every time Cliff expresses open contempt for his audience, holy shit, man was desperate to see this fail.
What if this was an elaborate money laundering scheme
How not to promote your game 101.
Get people to buy your product by insulting them pure genius
art of deel
Step 1: develop a game with a trite concept
Step 2: shit all over your potential consumer base
Step 3: ?
Step 4: prof- oh what’s that? Oh the game didn’t sell?
“I don’t care about your feelings, this is a business.”
“I’m not putting it on XBOX cause I hate XBOX.”
Can you even imagine anything more childish? Refusing to put your game on a perfectly good console just because you personally don’t like it? And then say “haha those fanboys kinda salty though” in a professional interview as if you are cool or something for doing that?
Literally, but it’s not like Xbox players would even want it anyway lol
Despite all of that. He's a horrible businessman. That's potential money you're throwing for trying to sound like a a fan boy for consoles. That's our job. This man is not about his money
Yeah that stuff and the part where he was gloating about how salty the XBox fans were. Grow up you fucking loser. So glad this game died and he's no longer relevant.
I have no interest in consoles and am very glad that war seems to finally be dead, but you want to release to a wider audience so everyone can play. Excluding one platform because you're a little bitch won't get you any praise.
I need that profile pic in my life
This video aged so well, I come back to re-watch it at least a couple of times a year. Like watching an awesome movie you love now and then.
Exactly!!!
Exactly!!!
They literally had nothing to say aside from “it’s fast, I’m shaking”
But it's fast and we are all shaking!!
I'm shaking because it's so fast ,
I'm literally shaking and screaming rn
It's shaking but it's not me, it's underneath me
It was 29.99 none of that 60 multiplayer only bullshit
"This game is aimed to a mature audience", a kid won their tournament
That the reason why this game call LawBreakers
@@TiMERZ That's what you call a pretty good pun right there.
The editing in this video is just so good. Lmao
Sounds wholesome tho.
@@FlowAaron You're the only one crying on behalf of a dead company my dude.
And Boss Key Productions has officially closed and shut down.
RIP
F
Dark Souls of competitive first person shooters
nothing of value was lost
finally
Writing was on the wall
Lawbreakers but everytime Cliff opens his mouth the game's lifespan is cut shorter and shorter
Hahaha thats exactly what happened..this dumbass ruined his game by talking so much BS
"The gnome with the turret"
Is this a common first person shooter archetype???
pretty sure he was tearing overwatch to shreds with those 'archetypes'.
spooksy I'm guessing they reffed torb or just the short man + sentrygun archtype
spooksy Chie!
I mean TF2 engie, Panzera Orc etc.
Definitely an archetype, short guy with a turret goes all the way back to Warcraft 3.
you know...as a concept artist I always feel so sorry for all the amazingly talented people that work behind the scenes on awesome concept arts, animations, models and such and see these games fail so badly because of the horrible management.
At least they get paid.
Probably not the amount they should have gotten.
@@100acatfishandwillbreakyou2 Yeah that's true. But all the passion was in vain, such a shame
Yeah, it fucks me up watching these because a lot of these games have killer character and level design but get put into bad products
@@awbr1991 to be fair, idk if you actually played the game, but the art was not nearly as good as it looked in the trailers. It was all one big monochrome soup. I remember even setting the graphics to the highest setting and realizing that I still couldn’t really tell the difference between the characters and the buildings around them. So it wasn’t just Cliff’s terrible PR strategy, there were also some serious mistakes in the formation of the game.
@@slaminjaminotter7286 my man out here wasting 30 bucks like I did
The first time in history when a guy actually managed to "unsell" his game, if that's even a word.
SgtGo *laughs battlefield V*
I don’t know... The Ouya lady did an amazing job of unselling her crap console 😂😂😂
@@grubhubguy9629 "there is nothing special about it!"
you mean refund or resell?
@@brunolambie663 they mean how the ceo made it sound even worse when she said it wasn't special
Keep in mind, concord was in the starting phases when this video came out
"Blizzard can do no wrong"
Yeah, about that...
That did not age well
#boycotblizzard
*Chinese national anthem intensifies*
That line didnt age well now did it
did you save china yet? #playthegamesyouwant
edit: hey guys im done replying. if you have a grievance please read my other comments. 3 months later blizzard is still making games and china still suffering. yee haw
"I understand you have feelings, but this is business."
I can't believe any human could reach a level of arrogance needed to have a big, proud, public chuckle at the people who made you everything you are.
You like talking business, Mr. Complex Last name, here are a few terms. "Brand loyalty." "PR". "Consumer Confidence".
Oh. Almost forgot.
"Bankruptcy".
Amen
You shouldn't have to defend a game and a company with horrible PR like this, and it's perfectly fine to let your view of a person influence a product, but what he says outwardly is no different at all than what almost every other company uses as their business model. So many companies will only see their fanbase as numbers on a screen and dollars in the bank because it's the only thing they can afford to see them as, he's right, it is a business and he doesn't have to pander to your feelings or views on the matter. The only thing I begrudge this man is making people believe he is the problem when he's actually made people feel comfortable with their first impressions. The only thing that makes this man different is his extreme extroversion and outward PR model, he is no different, and if you abhor this game and this company only because of this behavior, you show to him and other companies that the flowery bullshit that they spew to make people feel safe works, and to deviate from that means you will suffer. You are punishing honesty when he is at as much fault as the other big companies, gaming or otherwise.
And now we can say it back to him. "I get that you have feelings, cool, but this is business Clifford."
Too many in the games industry want a rabid, fanatical fanbase, but don't want to deal with the consequences.
@@SomeOne-vf1rs forgot that the flowery bullshit that they spew to make people feel safe actually works.
Why do you think PR is so important. They see you as a number, but they know, that people don't buy with that mindset.
The feelings of your consumer base are important, to a certain degree.
People even avoid watching movies with actors they don't like for any personal reason.
Which is why the Picture you give the public has to be somewhat neutral and over all positive. It helps the numbers.
Wait can you give the time when he said that?
"This game is geared towards adults and is the dark souls of fps"
*9 yr old wins promotional tournament*
yikes
They were the dark souls of children though.
Tbf any 9 year old attending a gaming convention is probably a whole lot better at video games than the average 9 year old. Still pretty ironic though
@@maximusthedude8305 well a 9 yo had more time to spend on the game then an adult. It’s not that surprising tbh
@@Daithiwolf that's great
That kid is officially the best law breakers player in history.
"We made the Dark Souls of competitive shooters"
How can someone not know what he's talking about that hard and be so proud of it
What does that even mean? I can’t think of two games less alike.
What do they have even remotely in common?
@@The.Orange.Wizardthe only thing i could think of is like. theyre both meant to be hard???
@@iwakeupandboomimarat But the thing is, LB is purely multiplayer, the difficulty is purely dependent on the skill level of your opponents.
@@The.Orange.Wizard yeah thats true, i think someone in the vid talked about a high skill ceiling so maybe its smth to do with that
@@The.Orange.Wizard given how Dark Souls is notorious to many as a very challenging game, far more difficult than many AA and AAA games of its time and to some extent even today, Cliffy likely threw that line around to be very clearly smug about how Lawbreakers is a game that only the most super skilled pro FPS players can play.
It would have made more sense and perhaps less cringy if he compared it to Quake and Unreal Tournaments, multiplayer games known for having a skill floor high enough that only those with the skills and tenacity can keep up
"more of a quentin tarantino type vibe" this guy is the biggest tool i've ever heard
What you missed was the meeseeks shirt.
you can drop names or hot games; choose wisely.
His stupid game looks more like a Michael Bay movie.
Cliffy Bitch is so fucking corny lmao
The insecure Bitch complains more about the criticism and comments than actually seeming cool or sure of himself lol
I swear Quentin Tarantino likes anime
I dont get why it didnt do well its 29.99 and it was none of that 60 multiplayer bullshit
@Ladarius Capers Did you just say the n word
@Ladarius Capers Understandable have a nice existence.
And it was the dark souls of competitive shooters like wtf
@@trashbag1108 His name's Ladarius if he aint black the earth aint round
No 60 dollar multiplayer bullshit actually just meant no multiplayer at all 😂
wow what an accomplishment! They managed to fit all the current lawbreakers players in one video!
+Fun Ghouls god you are mean
Whimah Whe
Cant take a joke ?
Destruction 100
S H U T O U T
I took the joke and I am praising it, you didn't get it
After Concord died I reevaluated this game. At least the antigravity was an interesting idea. Concord has nothing.
"Everyone is dead. EVERYONE."
Yeah, including the player base.
Fulcrum 67 just one final fuck you to everyone who bought the game
*When you realize a TH-camr who mocks games has better ways to aware people of a game's existence than the actual marketing*
Everything is much clearer in hindsight.
Ivailo Stoychev Didn’t know this game existed
most marketing departments are clueless
never even heard of this game before. this is my first experience being exposed to law breakers.
@@ChristianHammad me too
The game was fine but the way it was advertised and the move from ftp to $30 sunk the ship.
This, I can't believe the arrogance. How can you try to enter an over saturated market, offer nothing new and then expect to charge 30$ when a lot of your competitors have FTP options. They called me mad in the Battleborn forums for saying not being FTP and releasing next to Over Watch was suicide, where's their game now?
Nepu-Tech USA karma to those
Dr . Wub only 39 players play in a 24 hour period.. rip
It's honestly hilarious that the advertisements tried so hard to say that it was hardcore and difficult and made for adults and then a team with a little kid wins an official match.
There's a reason why many games are so casual and colorful now, a vast majority of players WANT that. The moment Cliff said it was the Dark Souls of hero shooters and tried to compare itself to Overwatch when that game alone has over 30 million players [and people already had the free alternative, Paladins] AND they decided to slap a price-tag after saying it was F2P, they shot themselves on the foot.
You know why Fortnite gave(and is still giving) that hugeee competition to PUBG? Coz it's free. Had Battle Royale mode for Fortnite been 30$, nobody would have given two fucks about it. 30$ from F2P was a dick move.
It feels weird looking back on this, since there's a lot of decent points that Cliffy B touched on that are legitimate complaints, but he just went about expressing them in a terrible way, or learned the exact wrong lesson from them.
1. AAA games were incredibly oversaturated in 2015 with old I.P's.
2. Leading with PC first *does* allow them to port onto consoles more easily if they do a lot of the legwork and establish a solid PC build first.
3. eSports was overhyped (and we're now currently living through its bubble bursting), and felt like it was crammed into every game.
All of these are valid, and somehow he just communicated them in such a caustic way that nobody wanted to touch it.
He may have made some good points, but the game just wasn't good. That's all it comes down to.
@@benjaminkey5810the game was killed by the insane business strategy and the lead’s insufferable personality. Terrible marketing didn’t help. Never even heard about this game in 17
@@benjaminkey5810this. Naturally overtime people tend to be less critical of things. Game sucked, people forget because there's been so many other and more recent bad games.
@@CHURCHISAWESUM
He tried to market the game instead of letting it market itself essentially.
"29.99, none of that 60$ multilayer only bullshit"
I bet he was really fucking proud when he came up with that
CZ Frank Oh I bet he was when he was sitting on his multibillion dollar gold toilet built from the money he made from Gears of war.
DrawnToLove are you his wife?
Nah just a typical fanboy respond.
"30$, none of that 29.99 retail pricing bullshit."
*Discount Lawbreakers* how to:
1- buy UT2004
2-make a server with low-grav mod
3-have fun
Conta Familiar but it's not Dark Souls tho?
Does it have ton of swears tho
Conta da Familia ps you can do the same with overwatch.
Not only have I made custom game of hitscans and called it ‘lawbreakers’ you can have a similar experience at Horizon Lunar Colony
I always wanted to try ut2004, is it an active game and are there a bunch of servers open or it dead?
UT2K4 is dead as fuck. Still boot it up every couple months or so and search for games in the background/idle and see if anyone appears. You can find people playing Deathmatch, but not much else.
Also Ross Scott, who runs Accursed Farms and Freeman's Mind has UT2K4 PuGs that get pretty big.
I swear. I dont have a problem with swearing.
But for some reason hearing a CEO swear while promoting their game makes me less likely to buy it..
It's because its unprofessional, and thus makes me think its going to be an unprofessional product.
It sounds unprofessional, feels like your friend from school telling you about this new awesome game he likes cause is better than the other, and not like someone trying to sell it to you
I don't mind it being unprofessional, the problem is that it's almost ALWAYS "trying to be cool" when it's not. Look how edgy they are oooh, it always comes off as tone deaf.
@@Mekose Same man, I actually would like if more CEOs would lose the facade and just say what they wanna say, cuss here and there. But some of these guys arent trying to be "real", they're trying to connect to younger people or something. Exactly like this guy, it was just annoying.
@ best comment I've ever read
it's honestly nice to see games like Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man's Sky outgrow the content we see in Crowbcat's compilations, but the schadenfreude in this video will continue to age like a fine wine
Cyberpunk is still ass
Cyberpunk is just a bit more content and making it stable enough to not brick your console/PC. It is still fundamentally mediocre. No Man's Sky still has the most impressive glow up among games in decades.
Imagine Hideo Kojima mocking Playstation-fans and making a battle royale game
For xbox only
wasnt it with like.. paraphrasing that he just said "america dumb, dont like my deliveryman game."
@@zOMGGaiaOnline I think this was the time where a guy sold deathstranding because it was boring and bought TLOU2 because its fun, then kojima just roasted the fuck out of him (or maybe another topic I dunno)
Hideo is always being blamed when Konami is the one that fucked up the Metal Gear series
@@Mo-ir3qz it was a fan account not hideo kojima himself. If i am not wrong.
Dude wtf i looked up the player count and it said 12 currently playing. I thought i wasn't reading it right. Garfield go kart racing has more active players
Hahahahahahahahahahaha now it's being compared and beaten by Garfield Go Kart
Yo what there's a Garfield go kart game I had no idea I gotta play that shit right now
Lawbreakers who? Never heard of him
TheReck true
TheReck because Garfield go kart is the best game in the entire world
dude Garfield go kart is the shit
Never say you’re the “dark souls” of anything. If it falls even a little short of that claim, your game will fail
What even is that claim anyway? "Oh it's the Dark Souls of FPS" what does that even mean?
Perfectly Fine basically a very hard FPS
It refers to the fact Dark souls is unique in it's difficulty curve. Most games spoon feed you and hold your hand and it's lame. Dark souls gives you a challenge Dark souls isn't hard per se but its hard to learn. Once you get it down it's not so hard.
@@peteragurkis3590 right
Dark Souls isn't the first hard game, it's not even the hardest game, so how does that work?
The concord before concord we just didnt know it yet
I didnt even know this was out. I saw a bunch of youtubers playing the beta, then nothing.....
Didn't even know this existed hah
K̊n̛̘̙̚e̗̚eˮ I also had no fucking clue this existed until this video
Everyone who played it got paid by them, it was pretty hilarious to see everyone on Twitch stop playing it and going back to Overwatch as soon as they weren't paid to play it anymore.
ImpatientTurtle I've never even heard of this before this video
ImpatientTurtle SAME
i like how the ceo keeps burning bridges left and right before the game even took off.
He took the brie Larson approach lmao
This video got me mourning for a game I never even knew existed.
Leanify TV I tried it on launch, it had potential. Problem is as the title suggests, the market is saturated and there isn't enough special things sepersting this game from the rest.
same lol
And the guys in charge of promoting their product are fucking morons.
Just imagine the Dark Souls of shooters. It's nothing at all like Overwatch, you can't compare it to anything, you can't compare it to Overwatch. It's the Dark Souls of shooters. Overwatch.
Maybe they have got the gameplay down but every else is quite bland. The skins and weapons feel like CoD. The character design is also very CoD but since it is much more class based, they should have really try that Overwatch kind of design with distinct silhouette and contrasting colors. If they want to keep their design they should have just make different class as different loadout and those load out have different silhouette. Alas, the nail in the coffin is really the over-saturated market. The competitive crowd prefers CS, the casual fun prefers CoD, the big map guys prefers BF or PUBG, the more team guys prefers Siege or Overwatch. Hell, even the niche is filled with Titanfall and Destiny. If he wanted to have a place in the market. He should have waited for CoD's fall then replacing them as the fast pace quick match casual fun guy.
Saw the news about concord and instantly thought about this
Honestly, I really was shaking after I played Lawbreakers for the first time.
But it's because I have diabetes and my blood sugar was low.
Fucking A you got me
lmao
made me laugh
Coulda said "shaking my head."
0/10
Parkinson's head ass
"It's not comparable, you can't compare it to anything."
From that moment, everyone is comparing it to Overwatch.
Better comparing to TF2, who is the original game in this new category of ''Overwatch'' esk games.
They tried to do something new, they created something, that's cool. I have respect for that. But saying it's "not comparable" to anything else, especially games in the same exact genre released around the same time, playable and marketed to the same audience... that's just egotistical. LawBreakers is interesting but it looks a lot like Destiny mixed with Overwatch. Similar mechanics, similar objectives, weapons, views, etc.
And yeah, TF2 is kind of the one everyone wanted to be when they were making this. People want to copy success. Putting their own spin on something is easier than making something new and sometimes, it works and we get something more fun than the original. LawBreakers just wasn't that original and Blizzard is really good at being Blizzard.
it always gets me how you first hear "its not comparable" followed immediately by "its like overwatch but better"
H is for Hypocracy
"Like God of War But"
"Like Overwatch But"
"Like CoD But"
And the list goes on
didn't he compare it to "dark souls" of FPS, whatever that means?
As a wise man once said for Evolve, “ This is a gamer’s game”
But what is the definition of a “gamer” ?
We are a society.
I miss that game so much. 🥺
@@Francisco-oz8yb there really isnt but they tried to advertise to the mainstream concept of a "gamer" isntead of a specific audience
I liked Evolve
I just had to watch this again, after Concord failed.