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- Unlike 343 Industries, those Bungie behind-scenes weren't used for marketing, they're only available in limited editions as bonus content. Most of those Bungie devs aren't working at the company anymore. 343 Industries rarely talks about development in those making-of videos, there's few explanation about anything in Halo 5 behind-the-scenes. If you want more you should watch the following sources below.
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Halo 2 Behind the Scenes: • Behind the Scenes Maki...
Halo 3 Anatomy Of A Game: • Halo 3 - Anatomy of a ...
Halo 3 ViDocs: • HALO 3 - ViDoc
Halo 4 Making-of: • Playlist
Halo 5 The Sprint: • Playlist - เกม
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"this space needs to be fun before it's pretty" the antidote to the modern game industry
ikr
Thats why Doom is my GOTY. Every aspect is designed around gameplay.
The first step in the right direction is Doom. The modern shooter that UNDERSTANDS that it's a video game and is therefore an incredibly fun video game, instead of a "gritty and realistic" piece of shit.
+Joel Coates please tell me when you say "gritty realistic peace of shit" you're not being serious
+The Macaroni Chronicles
No I'm 100% serious. Recently a lot of shooters, have been trying to make their games "realistic" and making them not fun in the process. Doom however prioritises fun over all else.
"This place needs to be fun before it is pretty." Current 343, please take this comment to heart.
Substance over style.
Adrian Perez... that guy still works at Bungie ya know? lol
Every AAA shooter dev nowadays needs to take note of this. Im finding a lot of maps in games that are designed by the art team.
they won't
ShadowBrony I think 343 focused on fun too much and they forgot the serious bits like the story. The multiplayer which was supposed to be fun, was competitive maps. And just like that one Bungie developer said, "if you think your game is fun, it's not." You have to really think about your game and what can go, what can stay, and what needs to be implemented to make it even better.
For some reason I came back to watch this video today. Still seems relevant I guess.
HOPE YOURE DOING WELL MARTY!!!
Miss the Paul Russel interviews, I loved those and they were absolutely fascinating to listen too. I wish there was a way to watch them again :(
No way! Did you hear the news regarding Bonnie Ross?
Good news 343 founders resigned
@@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 she resigned and said she want care her family
Dev's favourite words:
343: competitive
bungie: fun
I like Bungies Idea more
" People want weapon skins, we see a clear need there "
Who the actual fuck asked for weapon skins, are 343 just making shit up now, as an excuse to add more shit?
But but but... Who DOESN'T want stupid pizza AR skins?!?!? I mean, obviously Pizza AR is better than having a complete and functional game with all of the classic gametypes, right?
Gosh, how DARE the community try to tell 343i what they want from a game! Don't people know that 343i is the best company ever and they and their games are absolutely completely perfect? Clearly, Halo 5's story was amazing, and the players are just stupid for not understanding it.
Rhys Nichols mabey there listiening to call of duty fans instead of halo fans
Exactly well said they want to please all the other FPS players except halo
I'm pretty sure even casuals don't like this novelty shit. It cheepens the game so much. It reminds me of those shitty F2P games like Crossfire. I really noticed when the newest COD had dancing multicoloured robots spouting memes and dabbing. I think that's why normalfags like COD 4 so much.
If you are actually a casual...you don't have TIME for unlocking skins and other bullshit, you just want the CORE GAME!
I feel it's more Microsoft than 343 though. They want more money and they will push the game in awkward ways to get it. Even if it makes the game suck. It's part of the reason Bungie left Microsoft, they were always making compromises to the game. It's a miracle Halo 1-3 were as good as they were.
Bungie felt like a family that had a true passion for Halo but 343 feels like an empty shell.
I don't know why you're randomly talking about Bonnie Ross being sexist or whatever as that hardly has anything to do with what Giddy cypress is talking about but okay...
You're right though. Ex bungie was pretty good. Bungie now pretty much sucks. And 343 has always pretty much sucked lol.
Okay... Maybe that's not fair. They are okay now... But not great like halo 1,2,3, and Reach.
giddy cypress I was the 117th like 😏
Above your pay grade Bungie now is still better than 343i. That's sad.
Dragonderp69
Agreed. Destiny is better than Halo is nowadays.
Isiskos Aw yeah I love to grind with no real purpose but to get better weapons and experience shit dlc with a forgettable storyline and the only way to learn the lore being the grimoire cards.. that was my shit
"He's a human, not just a suit of armor"
"He's a husk of metal that you move around"
Hey, eku1? Have you seen Paramount's "Halo"?
Don't shoot the messenger.
A husk because your actions as a player reflect on him, you are the Chief, you live in that story, feeling everything they feel.
@@caramelldansen2204 terrible
@@harrylitzler7086 If you say it's because they "ruined" masterchiefs character, i will punch you square in the face.
@@caramelldansen2204 I wish I didn't
Bungie was like an artist with a canvas
343 was like a worker with a checklist
Greatest analogy ever
A worker is supposed to work though.
@@spaceduck2130 Put another away, it just means that Bungie was passionate about their work. 343 isn’t and it shows
@@minikuma I know, I was just pointing out the fact that 343 can't even do the bare minimum.
The sad part is both companies suck now. 343 never had the spirit of Halo, and Bungie was defiled by Activision.
"needs to be fun before it's pretty." rip bungie, you will be missed
:(
RetardoTheGreat not good ones lmao
That the perfect way to describe why most games suck. Because the communities is sold on graphics not gameplay.
Agreed gameplay > graphics.
I mean, you can't bs on gameplay on E3 unless ur no man's sky and then we can return the game. However everyone BSes on graphics and have random ppl reading from a script to distract you from the fact that no one is doing anything different since ps2
the removal of split screen was when I fully understood that these people have no clue about halo at all.
the copying of cod with halo 4 is when I fully understood that these people have no clue about halo at all...
Then of course my views were only strengthened when they released a unfinished game known as MCC and a halo titles that lacked split screen known as H5. I wonder how shitty H6 is going to be? 10 bucks says they add something gay like wall running or take out something kool like team objective.
The moment the Halo 4 trailers started, I knew Halo is dead.
My bets are that they will go for a watered down overwatch approach for its multiplayer.And also lootboxes.
The Master Grief Collection
Or they make it battle royal
I truly despise them for removing couch co-op and downgrading the Spartan customization
2001-2010 Bungie was honestly legendary, I'm so glad I got to experience that era growing up. Unfortunately, as soon as the money making potential of the gaming industry was realized the corporate bastards decided to milk it dry instead of producing genuine content. That's why all of the magic is lost today.
it's not lost, you just have to look for it in different places, indie devs and bunch of studios like From Soft are still making amazing games
It’s really not honestly
Well, with infinite, it's safe to say, halo is back. I enjoyed infinites campaign. So yeah.
@@jasperfox6821 well most people hated it, and people are already bored of the multiplayer because there is no maps/game modes/forge lol Halo is not back
@@FaceFish9 no....thats not true. You don't understand. The campaign was really enjoyable. I loved it infact. Yeah the multiplayer doesn't have content. But it's still very fun. To me. I really enjoyed infinite.
It still amazes me how Halo 2, a game that was rushed and put together by people who are burnt out but keep pushing, ended up being better than a whole trilogy made by a company with a bigger budget, more people and about a decades worth of time. I swear 343 had never played Halo until they get the rights to the game
It was different with Bungie. They had passion for what they were doing and it's the reason why all of their games are held in high regard.
New halo is the best one in terms of gameplay
@@abusivecomments9608 that can only go so far. What good is the gameplay when there's no context?
@@abusivecomments9608 feels good, still boring to play
It doesn't feel good, play destiny 1 even for an hour and you will see how awful halo infinite feels
One of the reasons I praise old Bungie is because they were literally just a bunch of nerds with a passion for making games.
Thank you BananaFist for being one of the few smart people that sees such a obvious thing. 343s business practices all pretty much scream "We just want your money and don't care about your game"
Seeing the 343 devs all self-congratulatory over seeing their bloody lootbox system is all that needs to be shown or said about how much they don't care about actually playing or enjoying games seriously
Bungie back then had talent and didn't seem to want to rape our wallets nearly as badly as 343 does. We would gladly give halo tons of money today if it was still... You know... GOOD?!?!?!?!!!! I have bought multiple copies of all the bungie halo titles. Can't say the same for 343s halo games. Haven't gotten any newer halo games since halo 4 lol. That one left a bad taste in my mouth.
The problem is that the games are pretty "meh" under 343. Maybe not big riggs or super man 64 bad but still.... They are pretty bad especially when it comes to price. Gaming was cheaper once upon a time and wages used to be better so to see micro transaction trash like halo 5 flood the market is really just faggot shit lol.
Don't forget guys... This is the company that sold us a 60 dollar drink coaster known as MCC. And then while failing to fix it to this very day... 343 came out to tell us that Halo 5 wouldn't suck like MCC lol. That's sad when you have to come out and tell us that your next game wont suck like your last game hahahaha.
Here's the real funny part... Halo 5 did suck and still sucks even after updates. Shit story, codlike gameplay, weak/lack of content... especially at launch, micro transactions, and broken modes/glitches within forge, theater, and fire fight.
The game really had a "we will fix it later with updates and patches" approach and they never really did fulfill that mind set with halo 5. The "free dlc" sounded nice but in reality it wasn't nice at all... The free DLC is just stuff that the game should have launched with.
Clearly the game wasn't ready. They shouldn't launch a unfinished game. Makes for a bad first impression and shows that they are greedy. Also... Games that get updated can get better yeah sure... But that hardly ever happens and 343 sure as shit never seems to be able to pull it off.
If they some how pull off a miracle and make halo 6 as good as a bungie halo game that doesn't have a super cod cloned feel to the game play, comes as a finished game, and doesn't have wallet raping... Then I will kiss 343s ass but lets get real here guys... THAT WONT HAPPEN LOL! RIP HALO! 2001- to whenever the fuck 343 started fucking shit up big time... Which is pretty much right when halo 4 launched and we got to see how crappy they truly are.
343 is just a bunch of smart asses who think every decision they make is a good decision
Oh god. When I saw Vault Boy I instantly thought of how this video is easily relatable to Fallout.
"Needs to be fun before it's pretty", that line is reversed in games nowadays
Nintendo tho.
Level 100 Boss red dead redemption 2
Star Citizen says HI.
Yeah nintendo still does this, thats why I love them so much.
@@Welipe
Aye. Nintendo has quite a few flaws as a company, but by God do they make good games. I guess putting more effort into a game's mechanics and making it fun is better than new and improved visuals.
Good Devs:
"I dont know if this is good enough, but this is my best"
Other Devs:
"It's Epic, revolutionary, and will change the way you play games forever"
This
"ambitious" is the biggest red flag, its like saying "there is a high probability this wont work"
@@protercool8474 "halo 5 is the most ambitious campaign to date"
Has the shortest and worst campaign in the entire franchise.
343:
“This R awsim, it R betur than secks. Can we haz money now?”
Wow, that’s so true!
This video desperately needs a sequel.
a revolutionary, mind-blowing game changing sequel even better than the first?
Check the pinned comment bro
Don't worry, Microsoft is creating a studio just to give this video a sequel.
Good news, crow did confirm a sequel
Well you got what you wanted.
You can tell the difference just in how they talk, with bungie being super chill and casual about it, using everyday words, and 343 being super corporate and using this complex words so the people watching think it's important and smart
MailIsLucktastic yea
I think It's the people making the video, scripting them to say what they think the audience wants. Big corporations tend to do this with big advertising departments. They make it so flashy and clean because they can, which loses some of the 'honest quality' behind it all.
Yeah. It's like 343's talk somehow feels robotic. Un-natural. It just makes me gloss over their crap and never listen to it. I personally felt some of the Bungie's feelings behind it. It's almost personal. Like there is drive, abit of passion in how they talk.
@RARAYAYA RAA Edgy.
@RARAYAYA RAA ok salty boi
"It needs to be fun before it is pretty"
-Bungie, pure words of wisdom that I feel many games fail to realize these days.
So true... Game play over graphics any day.
As do I Khaikage... As do I... Maybe then games wouldn't suck so much...
Check out the new cod wont work II? What a joke that game is lol.
l am must agree, everyone is always concerned with their fucking graphics cards and framerates, lighting, textures, so many modern gamers are a fucking joke.
わるよ歩み framerates are important for a cinematic and smooth experience. Imagine playing Call of Duty 4 at a whopping 4fps. It would be unplayable
i am not completely disregarding that they aren't important, no one would ever let a game pass for playing at 4 fps. I am saying so many modern gamers ONLY care about having optimal graphic settings, so much so that they don't even know how much fun they're actually having with games, just as long as it looks good. Games are supposed to be fun, but so many others are just caught up in how it looks.
This aged so so well.
i have a feeling its only going to age better as time goes on.
@@notagent4128 you're a prophet you know that
yes...
This will be a gathering place for future generations of Halo fans.
@@notagent4128 it will
343: "Cinematics and competitiveness!"
Bungie: "Fun."
Bungie: ''Fun'' & Casual.
u forgot l00tboxes
I love how 343i always talked about how competitive their game would be, yet the competitive community hates it. Whereas Bungie always emphasized fun, but still managed to satisfy BOTH the causal and competitive communities.
wat?
Sloth from The Goonies I know this comment is a month old, but do you remember Reach? That game butchered the competitive scene.
+John Adams nope, everyone pretty much loved that game.
Slender Man 186 Truth be told, it wasn't great or the competitive scene. And was less successful than Halo 3. even in term of player retention.
+Sloth from The Goonies while true it's still the most played of the Bungie games, getting about 10k players per day.
I can't believe that people design loot box animations and say yes, wow, incredible.
Cameras rolling boys, work it
✨i have given you the 117th like ✨
That part right there said the most to me.
@@DemonSnacks 1000% yes
@@DemonSnacks Yes
This aged really well
Unfortunately
For the wrong reasons!
I wish it didn't
Seeing the top comment from 5 years ago “wait a minute”
so well that crowbcat came back to it
Bungie kept trying to show you how fun the game is.
343I kept trying to sell the game and use buzzwords.
6:55 There's something about seeing the "producers" gleam with joy over loot boxes that makes me sick to my stomach...
You just know what they're thinking.
"We're gonna be so fucking rich."
Fucking assholes & their greed
I smell pennies syndrome maybe?
All in denial lol that crippled halo 5
Loot boxes... no, no they are "Surprise Mechanics" Cmonnnn man!!!
Wow Crowbcat, 1.2m views? That’s a lot of my music getting heard.
Thanks.
Martin O'Donnell Thank you so much for such an amazing soundtrack.
Is this the real Martin? Please tell me you are and not a fake.
Well, if you are, can I please get your opinion on Halo 5? Just your general opinion no need to go into real detail, but your honest opinion on what went wrong.
Thank you for the heart and passion.
You went above and beyond instead of making a generic action movie soundtrack, you made music that touched the soul.
Monks chanting, who would of thought?
You sir are incredible.
Martin O'Donnell Oh my God, it’s Marty! You’ve created the music of my childhood. Me and the rest of the subscribers of r/halocirclejerk would like to thank you. Also, did you work on the Halo: Infinite music? The trailer’s music sounds a lot like Halo 3’s.
Ex-Bungie: "Game needs to be fun to play first."
343: "Players wanted a fun game, so we gave them pizza skins because fuck you."
nothing wrong w wacky skins but i get what u mean
@@RoachCatJr there is something wrong with wacky skins, it breaks the aesthetic of the game, how are you supposed to take something seriously when someone is dancing half naked with Chief's helmet on with Pom Poms in hands? you wouldn't be able to be invested in the sad scene if that was the fact right? it's the same with wacky weird skins, if you want to make something serious, make it serious, if you want wacky, then make it wacky, but don't try to do both. Halo's style doesnt fit wacky skins, same as older CoD's and other games with more grim stories. that's a thing devs today don't realise, if something doesn't fit the aesthetic it doesn't belong there, end of story.
look at games like Team Fortress 2, which started the whole craze around skins and lootboxes for the larger masses, it's made to be wacky from the start, hell it's just a mod of the Half-life 2 engine, with no great overarching story, simply "2 teams, go kill each other" so of course it fits a game like that, but ask yourself what does a pizza skin on Spartans armor give the spartan? is it going to make the battle this Spartan goes easier? is it a good camouflage? or is it just a distracting and weird thing that doesn't fit the whole style of the game?
@@FaceFish9 exactly. Imagine being another spartan, and you get your skull caved in by a mister chief shotgun.
@@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 exactly, and i'll give skins that back in BO1 and MW2 while there were some very weird skins, i honestly liked the option to paint the gun in a camouflage, you know like a an actual army spec op might?
A better version of the last sentence: F*CK YOU GIVE ME MONEY
All we have to thank 343 for is solidifying Bungie's legacy.
*2001-2011 Bungie. Bungie today is a shell of its former self.
@@christianbethel Definitely. They are a microtransaction peddling nightmare now.
@@cogd1599 At least the MCC team is doing a hood job, but they still have a *_long_* way to go.
And saving Halo. People will just get mad by learning the truth.
The more time it passes to more I respect 343.
@cesarst3720 I have not even heard a good opinion from anyone with that band kid pfp and today is no exception, 343 killed Halo and they deserve all the shit they get and more
Man, those guys at Bungie really knew what they was doing.
You can tell they really cared too. "If you think that what you're making is the greatest thing ever all the time, then it's not gonna be the greatest thing ever." If only most devs still had that attitude, not even just Halo 3. Bungie were the realist niggas around.
not anymore though
+Snoopy true words have never been spoken snoop.....
I mean to say "not even just 343" but you know what I mean. lol
+Snoopy
That was Activision who messed up Bungie, not Bungie themselves.
I think they can make a comeback.
Believe.
bungie: needs to be fun
343: needs to be pretty
TheScopeo pretty/competitive af to a dumb level.
TheScopeo they would make the perfect baby
talk with ur wallets. dont buy 343 bullshit.
Halo 5 has good multiplayer thats it. Halo 4 was garbage. At least Halo 5 did it good enough to get back onto the MLG pro circuit. The campaign was god awful tho!
eM97 Halo was never meant to be on the competitive circuit. They have a thousand fps games on the market that cater to that crowed. Halo was always about the experience of the individual and made you feel apart of a community and care about the characters and have fun. It always stressed creativity and design, but now it's all about attracting more players making more money and being pretty and relevant rather than good. They bought this Game and it's rights to make money and buy a fan base, because it was a good "investment" not because they cared about it or its history and story. All I'm saying is they took the game that alot of us grew up around and used it to make a name for themselves and make money and it hurts to see something we loved gutted and replaced. It's like watching someone tear down or bulldoze a park, maybe even an arcade you spent a lot of your life around to build a mall. Most of us have just accepted that what we loved is dead and that's that. Sure we all secretly hope it isn't or that it makes a comeback into our hearts but it's just a different thing now with the same face. We are just sad, that's all.
Could you imagine if 343 got the rights to minecraft?
"Steve is human, he's not a machine, he's not a set of armor with a pickaxe."
Steve can beat lego batman (an absolutely vile and powerful being), and 343 will call him just a human
microsoft owns 343i and minecraft. 0.0
Combat Update be like
10:30 this is probably one of if not THE biggest reason that bungie’s halo was more fun. It’s like a group of casual gamers got together and decided to make a game. Halo was something everyone could enjoy.
And then 4, 5 and Infinite came. And the birth of rabid 343 fanboys.
@@EvilPhoenix007 Let them have their empire of dirt. Halo 2 3 and wars aint going anywhere..
Fucking rest in peace, Halo.
what the fuck
halo 3 was the Best Game Ever Remembering getting it on Christmas but now halo is trash it's 343 Fail for making halo the way it is today I'm sad now
Press F to pay respects.
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When people used to tell me that Reach should have been the last Halo game, I disagreed with them. I told them that 343i would create great things. How wrong I was... Rest in Peace, my former favourite franchise...
sad part is I can't play halo 3 or reach online i miss it but it's gone
"Expand our audience" = "We're going to make this game generic as fuck". Seriously developers, don't aim to please everybody, aim to make a damn good fucking game that hits the high notes in specific places, that differentiates itself from the crowd, one that's crafted from innovation. Then people will buy your games
Hopefully, a bit of luck may be required; overall, yes you're right, definitely.
"We want to make that Call of Duty money, mang." -343 Industries
Actually, it means they want to expand sales. They don't want to release classics, they want to release instant cash cows.
problem is .....they are buying their games ....
ad sells today games. not brands or quality...
“We don’t want it to just feel like just clearing another room of enemies”
343 level designers really failed to understand that for halo infinite
I hate so many modern games because they feel like this. No art or creativity. Just more "content".
@@ky5666I just expect it now
Game devs really need to study being DnD DMs, crafting encounters is super fucking important in games and if you don't know how to push your players then you're just not a good DM.
This video just keeps continuing to age like wine.
Aged so well its more relevant now with his newest upload
Now I know who fucked up Halo, the director said he wanted "an emotional halo" jeez, they turned an epic story into a Mexican novela but even Mexican novelas have a good story.
The nerds are so much better than the corporate hipsters. RIP Halo.
Fax
They did kill me inside ruining my game
Capitalism is ruining gaming
@@masterchief________605 It hurts my soul to think about halo 4 and 5. They killed a part me.
@@mastershangchi3410 well for me theyre definitely not as good as the first 3 and reach, but if you dont take them seriously theyre still pretty fun. what you said reminds me of how i feel about mass effect andromeda though, the existence of that story feels like the whole mass effect universe is lesser for it, despite it adding a whole new galaxy.
The skin montage made me cringe so much..
amen to that
Negative, the damn cockroachs are crafty now days.
how?
Matthew Russell thats why they raise millions of dollars towards MLG, right...
+Shambles Because it feels like they're shitting on the franchise. It's like if you're a true Star Wars fan, you're conflicted at the state of things. It's good your franchise is getting a revival and moving past the prequels, but some of the things being done to it just hurt you inside.
6:44 I watched the Halo Infinite setember 2022 dev update. When that guy told Halo was very competitive, it was in it's DNA since the first Halo, I could only think about this part from this video.
It's like nothing changed.
Even the old graphics look better. They feel more grounded and less cartoony.
They feel like whoever worked on them (my boy Shi Kai Wang, you rock) was enjoying what he was doing, with a passion.
It’s crazy because watching the bungie interviews. They literally Left a Script on what to do with Halo....and 343 threw it all away smh.
Darryl Wait where is that?
Aamir 1 just listen to how Bungie is describing their game and what to focus on what not to focus on...then look at what 343’s main focus is.
Makes me sick.... fuck 343. Infinite better be damn good.
@@DevinMarkovichMetal it won't. It's gonna be a live service...
@Elena Monfils fuck
"A leap for Halo multiplayer"
Leaves out split screen and system link entirely.
Their back baby!
No theyre both back, they announced it a good while ago i believe
@@microwaveramen512 in halo 5?
the future is the cloud. do you wonna come to future with me? do you wonna come to the future?
They didnt say which direction
No joke i always get teary when thinking back to the time were i sit in my room playing halo 2 or 3 till morning on the weekends and having a blast in custom playlists with friends. Nowadays i never had an experience like that ever again. Im srsly glad i had these games when i grew up the 2000-2010 where the pinnacle of gaming and i glad i fully experienced it.
Halo, Bioshock, DeadSpace, Borderlands, Gears of War, Left 4 Dead. I wish I could go back to that time.
It's crazy that there are TEENAGERS who never experienced this era of gaming. It makes me sad honestly
@@nighthawk244 Yeah, the enjoyment i've seen on the faces of those people who played those games together back then made me really happy. I'm a 2006 world joiner so the only sort of excitement i've had in gaming that could compare to those guys would probably be my time playing rainbow six siege with some friends back in 2017 as well as when I used to play assassin's creed unity co-op (Although there weren't that many people to play with).
“WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING TO HALO!?”
343i: That’s the point, we’re ruining it.
Garners more attention.
Bungie: "How shall we impact the player the most?"
343: "Let's put in shit we think is cool!"
400th like!
The old halo Bungie yes. New destiny Bungie absolutely not.
@Walshie Nightly Destiny Bungie has completely ruined the namesake. I miss Halo Bungie.
Bungie: how can we make this level fun to play and make it so that it never gets repetitive?
343: how can we make this look pretty and get boring after a few play throughs?
Retroflection yet bungie made halo reach, adding in what they thought would be cool, and ruined their entire franchise in one fell swoop. It's all well and good blaming 343 for everything, but pay some attention and you'll see that the beginning of the end was with reach. Sprint, armor abilities, weapon bloom, no real rank system, shitty bland forge made maps. NO. FUCK bungie. They ruined halo forever. And now they're making one of the worst franchises of our modern day. Destiny. Garbage company.
anyone noticed how bungie people looked like they would actually play halo (basically nice way of saying their nerds) and 343 people looked like hippies and people who just dont care
they're* :^(
ikr, I feel so bad for those passionate people. :(
Lol I thought they looked like hipsters who just wanted the halo game on their resume but I hear you
Yeah, Bungie made halo to be a story about a lone soldier with almost infinite luck saving humanity over and over... And they made Reach purely to help non-lore buffs to understand why it's so important when Keyes says "Cortana, all I need to know is, *did we lose them*?", at the beginning of combat evolved.
They ended Halo 3 the way they did cos what they basically did was took the Arbiter, sent him home and then had Cortana and the Master Chief drift until (presumably) they would eventually be found by humanity and the Chief would be brought home at long last.
The reason Bungie had the Chief say "Wake me... when you need me" was probably only in part cos then they could wrap up the story of the master chief and then lay the Halo franchise to rest, and pursue new adventures and possibilities. They didn't want Halo to become a money machine...
343 should have taken up the story with the Arbiter instead, detailing him leaving earth and then exiting slipspace over Sanghelios all in the one cutscene, and maybe mention something along the lines of "Home... I never thought I would see it again..." And then have it skip ahead a bit and then put the player in the shoes of the Arbiter in the middle of a conversation as maybe idk, say... Lord Hood is briefing the Arbiter on a new threat to humanity, or maybe offering aid to help the arbiter reunite the Sangheli culture once more, and return it to how it was before the Covenant. Then maybe have the player go through missions, putting down terrestrial threats to the Sangheli and then skip ahead a bit to a human commander asking the Arbiter for aid in managing a new threat to humanity (The Flood maybe? Or possibly the Prometheans returning of their own volition, with the didact having been brought out of his slumber by scientists investigating a shield world (Probably Requiem again) and accidentally freeing him, and then have the next few missions or so focused around the Arbiter and some elites maybe teaming up with UNSC forces to take down the didact and ensure that this time he won't come back again.
that's one game down... Say they want to make another, perhaps put you in the shoes of a SPARTAN IV who is sent to investigate the distress beacon of a ship thought to have faded into legend: The UNSC Spirit of Fire. you go in, boots get on the ground and then at the end of the first level, you find the crashed remains of the UNSC Forward Unto Dawn which contains the data ghost of Cortana and the still cryo frozen Chief... something happens and he gets thawed out, but the hatch won't open and the Chief can't get it open from inside. So you have to do a quicktime event to punch the glass and get him out... He asks about Cortana, and then sees that Cortana is no more, with only a data ghost of herself left in the system cos it's been so long. then he returns to earth and mourns her loss... While you and the Arbiter perhaps, or maybe other Spartans go on the offensive against the remaining forces of the Promethean army.
you still get the "No! Cortana's dead!" moment, and find out what happened to the Master Chief... but then he's taken out for the moment from the story, and eventually returns, looking much older, and lo and behold, he is an instructor, maybe providing a mentor figure for a SPARTAN VI program...
If I were to take a side in the current split in the Halo community... I would be on the Bungie side. Halo 4's story was cool... But Halo 5 was NOT a true halo game. They retconned their own previous game, just cos people got cranky about them taking Cortana out... She was in the middle of Rampancy, which was also in Bungie canon if I remember right... So yeah. We'll just have to see if 343 can turn everything around and revive the Halo franchise when they (eventually) come out with Halo 6.
Twylite Fang "Wake me when you need me." When I played Halo 4 I expected Chief to be saving the galaxy in epic fashion... but all I got was a depressing story about his "humanity", with lame music, lame armor, call of duty-esque features, and although the Didact is cool.. he pretty much killed the "mystery" of the forerunners.. as far as I'm concerned Halo 4, 5,& 6 are non-canon.
"Master Chief is not a machine... He's not a set of armour with a big weapon."
"The success of the story is that we didn't put a lot of time in figuring out who the Master Chief was, and why he was a ghost in the shell... He's a husk, he's a big green suit of armour that you move around"
LMAO
He's a big angry green armor that you kill aliens with.
Chief is literally RoboCop in cooler armor
Practically every other sentence from a Bungie dev was talking about how important it was for them to put fun before other design considerations. I don't think the 343 team even used the word "fun" once in this video.
I'll say that that even applies to software development in general.
Man, I miss when games were made by gamer nerds.
Not hipster pseudogamers.
Yeah, but think of all that diversity we got eh ?
@@largebaboon5559 lmao
Couldn't of said it better
You can tell by just the way they look, one is talking about how they want to "deepen the story" while it looks like they have been sipping on their mocha latte braiding their individual beard hairs. While the nerds are made a game that is actually fun and has a story and gameplay that wasn't stolen from CoD.
That's the most accurate explanation I've ever heard.
Passionate people VS people who get paid to make games.
Bungie made Halo 1-3 and REACH for free?
thats.... not what i meant.
I wish we had more passionate people who are still competent at their jobs nowadays.
343 doesn't seem like that type of people.
True
Thank you! There is no passion at 343, just corporate bullshit, they say things to please, not because they mean it.
They cancelled split screen lol
I feel like Bungie was a close knit group of people who weren’t afraid to tell each other when something sucks, versus 343, who are probably too scared to contradict each other, and instead just nod and clap their hands to whatever idea their higher-ups come up with cause telling someone the work they did isn’t good is just “too toxic of a work environment”
Having a corporate board that actually gives a shit about making a good product is especially rare these days.
Bungie: With weapons, they need to be fun shooting, and fun being shot at.
343 studios: P I Z Z A
Doctor Discord, I died a little inside.
343 did a MUCH better job in this regard. Bungie's guns felt powerless and floaty.
@Deathtrooper40 H5 was peashooters no go pa POW. peashooter go pew pew.
Is this a Reality Bites reference?
@@davidn4956 so You Saying That *Every* Weapon In Bungies Halo Is Powerless? Remember When In Halo If You Have A Normal Assault Rifle In Bungies Multiplayer (Except Reach) It Can Kill A Guy In *Titanium* Armor Note *TITANIUM* ARMOR The Ingame Mutiplayer Spartans Wear Titanium Armor In The Lore And Every Weapon In Halo And Kill A Man In Titanium Armor Fact. Yes In Halo 3 I Personally Didn't Like That Every Weapon Is A Projectile And I Think That's What You're Referring To By "Floaty"
My favorite bit from this has to be watching the Bungie team play testing halo together and just going crazy, and then we pan over to 343 who are testing out opening loot boxes together.
Greed. Makes me so fucking sad. Halo could STILL be amazing.... I wish someone had the money and proper individuals to take back the Halo franchise, and keep the legacy that Bungie created moving.....
@@DevinMarkovichMetal "Evil cannot create, only corrupt."
@@nabieladrian simple yet powerful words!
Halo 3 STILL holds up. It still plays great, it still looks great and the score is still top notch. A legendary game, especially for those of us who were there on our 360's shouting at each other. It was my, and many other's first ever experience of proper online gaming. Completing the campaign on legendary splitscreen with my friend is a lasting memory for me. 343 just doesn't get it.
Pretty much, Halo 3 was probably one of the best and most feature complete games I have ever played. I can't think of many other games where putting "Complete multiplayer experience" on the multiplayer disk wouldn't sound like hubris but halo 3's multiplayer definitely earned that. Sadly 343 fucked it up with MCC by having us play it through their sloppy slow disorganised menu system and shit matchmaking system. It's just not the authentic complete Halo 3 experience that it should have been purely because of 343's incompetence.
@@RossMitchellsProfile Im honestly not having much difficulty with the menus
Xbox One and Series X should allow Halo 2 and Halo 3 online multiplayer with the Xbox 360 discs. That would be life changing.
Halo reach is the greatest game ever created
This aged like fine wine
Bungie is like: "How do we make all these aliens feel believable and intimidating?"
343: "my aliens can teleport, and they're way cooler than the covenant"
343 are the kind of people that only play Tau
Bungie aren't doing very well themselves either right now.
@@_IcyCube_ and Bungie is just a shell of its former self, after reach a large portion of veteran staff left, or stayed just long enough to be bought byActivision.
They're Bungie in name only these days.
@dee dee based on what?
@dee dee they're not based, child
I like how the Bungie guys are hyper critical of themselves. It makes them squeeze every last ounce of creativity and fun out of themselves, they are always pushing for perfection. Meanwhile 343 are patting themselves on the back like "yep we're the best, no room for improvement." 343 just doesnt seem to get it.
And now, 343 finally got it. Halo infinite's story almost perfectly parallels 343's own story. Just like master chief failed to save humanity from the banished, 343 failed to keep Halo's popularity. Halo infinite shows how 343 took their failures to heart and learnt for the future. These failures are never gonna go away, just like how all the people who died in the war are never gonna come back, but both chief and 343 have to move forward to the future and try to turn the ship around.
@@user-mx1fq6qm6i Man you 343 nut lickers are so easily pleased. zzz
@@Evolution-Is-A-Blatant-Lie do you have a problem with the fact that I like the story?
yeah the story it is an improvement compared to H4 and H5, but that customization tho...
@@user-mx1fq6qm6i The campaign is still ass though.
Seeing Joesph Staten get removed the other day hurts because they really brought him back to be used as a puppet for pr just to move him
"Master Chief is a human, not a robot"
He is BARELY human.
The sheer amount of biological and technological augmentations that went in to making him have significantly altered his emotional and logical reasoning. In the books it was pretty much spelled out that he was programed mentally by his military training and then the slew of hormones and tech they put in him set that training in stone. His frickin nervous system is connected to his suit and an AI.
He has slightly more empathy than Robocop.
No Nicki, he is not "just a human".
He's essentially a t 800 with some humanity in him
Makes sense in halo 1 - 3 the game basically makes you feel like a walking weapon of war
Not only that but Chief also had good friends, a dry sense of humor and was sarcastic sometimes, got mad, etc. Even though he had all of that augmentation done to him, he was still human. He was sutble when showing his emotions (he's military, for Odin's sake, I expect him to have a handle on his emotional state). Honestly, he kinda reminded me of sone of my family and family friends that served in the military. Calm, reserved, etc.
He's a boring character
It would be acceptable to start showing his human side from Halo 4 onwards; new trilogy and all. Shame they took away the catalyst for it (Cortana's death) and threw everything under the rug.
Played Halo 3 as a tween on the special Green and Gold 360. This hurts me in more ways you can imagine.
"Don't her her go.......don't you EVER let her go..."
It WAS a long time ago, nearly a decade now.
Why? I'd like to continue myself.
Cheesedragon117 Nah not you bro, talking to *****, youtubes fucked up
face it
Fallout 4
Call of Duty Black Ops 3
are way better than
call of Halo: Star Wars 5
Zack L. Jones dude black ops 3 is dog shit
“If you somehow believe that what you’re doing is the greatest thing ever all the time, it’s absolutely not gonna be the greatest thing ever.” I’m putting that up on a wall, that is wisdom in its purest form.
Sounds like Neil druckman imo. Regardless of what you think of the last of us 2. He’s really cocky now any thinks everything he touches is incredible. Go back and watch the god of war documentary and Cory Barlog is constantly filled with doubt and feels like everyone will hate his game.
Nutterbutterman the best developers see the faults in themselves and their games and work as hard as they can to minimize/fix them. If you think you’re hot stuff, you’re not going to see where you’re going wrong.
Tbf Valve did pretty great things thinking that
💯 self criticism is key at perfercting one's work, it needs to be exactly as you want it to be, if you think you're already perfect or doing something perfect or absolutely great all the time then you're actually never gonna make this thing great. It's like saying the battle is already won before it started, this kind of overconfidence is a plague to any type of work or action in life.
@@kaseycombs6968 Exactly, they know themselves and their work and how it all works out, they know exaclty what they absolutely need to improve otherwise it's not gonna have the effect they want it to have and be
8:22 I love how 343’s like “as intimidating it is to follow Marty’s scores” and then it just cuts to Marty vibing.
Hearing Marty’s beautiful crowd singing 8:26 the halo themes always give me chills. No digital crap like 343. Just pure, honest love for a game.
*343:* Master Chief is a human, hes not a piece of armor
*Bungie:* Master Chief is a piece of armor, made to represent the player, we made the fucking character, we would know.
LegendaryWarrior Can Master Chef cook though.
fayno g lmao
LegendaryWarrior but can he run crisis 3
I always thought the Spartans, being human weapons designed not to feel, stop or surrender was something Halo had that made it unique.
But then they decided to make Spartans people and the sacrifice of Noble team was pissed on in a few years.
fayno g Do you think the ending of Halo 7 is master chef dealing with Gordon Ramsey?
Bungie - let’s make the best game possible
343 - let’s make as much money as possible
Old Bungie: Let's Make Art
Old/Now 343i: Fuck you?
I love the footage of Marty and Staten watching the Betcha can’t stick it for the first time. Marty’s reaction and how Joe responds. Staten really is a good dude who understands the mission at hand. Make a compelling and fun game that millions will enjoy because at its core is a lot of heart and soul.
the moment they had a quick time event... I knew... Halo was gone..
The Pie yea!!! i whas like: "really a qte? fk you 343" then i go to Destiny
sooooo literally less then 5 min into halo 4? lol
Royal Raptor yip, face to face with an even uglier brute with an energy sword
hahahahaha
The Pie yeah the moment where you have to climb an elevator shaft and then throw an elite over the edge in halo 4.
"We know that there are people who love sprint, and there are halo fans who hate sprint, so we found a nice middle ground by including sprint"
And making it 10 times worse
I dont have a problem with sprint on reach tbh... But i understand people who hate it... When i play halo 2 i dont feel like i need to sprint
They could’ve just increased movement speed by 1 and avoided the whole problem. Armor abilities made sense in Reach since those Spartans were weaker in canon, but including it in a game where you play as a Spartan with the latest armor, it doesn’t make any fucking sense. The climb mechanic was a shit decision as well.
@@beefs0ck911 I want you to explain how them making it easier to traverse your environment in satisfying and meaningful ways is a bad mechanic? there's an unbelievable amount of times in Halo 3 where I just wished that I could grab and scramble up a ledge or it felt like Chief should be able to sprint. Like after chief kills guilty spark and has to leave quickly, running across that bridge, chief SPRINTS in the cutscene. the only thing I could think was, "a super soldier, with cybernetic super armor, just now learned how to sprint after 3 games?" I mean it's strange that it took so long to add climb and sprint when they both felt like they belonged since the beginning. Built in boosters, better movement and sprinting is the best changes to Halo ever. 343 did plenty of horrible things to Halo but fixing the overly heavy and slow chief from 3 is not one of them.
@@2lycos yes the argument of "HES A SUPER SOLDIER HE CAN SPRINT!!"
lmao, so we need to have realism? Where is the realism in a thruster system that can lift an insane super soldier plus a suit of armor that weighs half a ton? The game doesn't have a fuel gauge and it seems like you have infinite thrust, is that scientifically explained in the game? Not really.
Not to mention the fact that guess what, if clamber was added in halo 3 all the ledges you weren't able to get on now would just be raised so you couldn't even clamber to get on. Map design buddy.
Bungie felt like a team of friends making a game that not only the fans loved, but they also loved
“It’s needs to be fun before pretty”
“What it comes down to it getting together with people”
“You hate it but you love and you got to play again”
Bungie understood that Halo didn’t need to be overly complex or over designed or “competitive” or revolutionary. It needed to be endless fun, that you can pick up and play whenever with whomever, and master the game over time while having fun. 343 saw this franchise as nothing more than shiny marketing opportunities and a money making machine.
"This is the biggest and most ambitious campaign ever yet." *Campaign is 4-5 hrs long*
biggest baddest most ambitious campaign is definitely halo 2
@@soundlesspeal fr fr
soundlesspeal the good bad or bad bad?
@@harshbalwani9736 both
That line made me face-palm so hard I had a concussion.
Just pretend the story ended at Halo 3 and pretend the games ended at Reach, that way everyone wins
Spursy can't with that legendary ending
Spursy Halo 4 and 5 are basically just badly written halo fanfiction when you think about it.
***** 5 yes, but 4?
bro 4 was trash too
Ryan .Boshyson not really
6 years later, Crowbcat is still *furious* with 343 industries lol
and with VERY good reasoning after Infinite's launch...
We all are. I played the campaign and still left disappointed. How do you make a Halo story boring? Just from a story perspective? Insane
343i lack the passion and imagination that Bungie had. Simple. 343 view it as a job to make money, and Bungie did it because it's what they loved. Microsoft took a flagship creation and handed to the worst developers they own.
Not just him. A lot of us are. I feel like Halo really will die soon. And with a whimper no less. A decade of 343i and they keep fucking it up.
"What's to keep the player from skippng this?"
I fuckin love that.
Every game should make an effort to have more enjoyable cutscenes (ESPECIALLY ANIME TIE IN GAMES)
Dude, i almost cried in some of the final bungie's scenes when they talk about the detail and trying harder and harder to make the game the best possible, you can feel the dedication when a guy says: "i see the cinematics over and over and im asking myself, does this have something that keep the player watching instead of just skip it?", That's the old game industry, pure dedication to make a beautiful experience, now ist just the basic to sell a game. I miss the real game industry.
@DaMonsta you are a racist fuckwad
Zach Robertson what do u mean?
@@JS-xv3dm I was replying got a subcommenter not OP. Don't exactly remeber what was typed but it was racist and unnecessary for a goddamn Halo video. It was toward DaMonsta he deleted his comment.
@@zachrobertson684 I'm guessing it was something revolving around jewish stock holders having an overwhelming influence on the design choices and monetization practices of the medium, resulting in a rather noticeable downward trend over the years on the industry?
Modern high budget games in a nutshell. Not saying older devs were perfect in any way, but there has been an obvious shift from passion, dedication and delivering something unique, fun into shiny plastic graphics, that looks flashy in trailers, looks over gameplay, sticking with formulas known to sell well, games without any depth. A sad, bitter shift indeed.
*"The space needs to be fun before it's pretty"*
I feel like Hello Games could also take some lessons from this
yeah because Destiny was so much fun, right ?
RIGHT ?
But No Man's Sky is not even pretty.
Actually i'm triggered by your nickname
Hakim Ben Wasn't discussing Destiny or post-halo-bungie team here
+Hakim Ben The team who made Destiny was completely different from the ones who made Halo. Most left or we're pushed out by corporate. Halo 3 was realized in 2007 whilst Destiny came out in 2014, that's 7 years. Is your life the same as it was 7 years ago? The company isn't even the same anymore and the direction is different now.
I'm angry at 343 for botching Halo... Again. And I'm angry at myself for thinking they'd get better with Infinite.
Never again.
This. My housemate was like "let's play through all the Halo games" and I was like "Nah, let's play 1-3"
*And ODST and Reach
*And Halo Wars
This video continues to age like fine wine
Yes it did. And the Halo Infinite reveal did not help 343’s case.
A Memorial To the Fallen.
Sam Wymer It most definitely did, tf you on b?
@@justchilling704 yes man those new graphics are really taking advantage of the new xbox and look super great totally
Milbox R yes because the only thing people care about is graphics
Seeing that old Xbox Original system link party brought a tear to my eye
it'll never be that way again. for any game now. everything's online. everyone has families and jobs, obligations. it was special.
There's still a chance, maybe not consoles, but PC's
nothing will ever be like the summer after my first year of university. constant halo coop missions during the day and lan matches in the evenings before going out and getting hammered.
That sounds like a dream dude
occasionally my brother and i relive it but goddamn i get nostalgic for 2002
Shout out to every single one of you who was there until the bitter end of the OG server sunset. That was some of the best Halo I’ve ever played. No gaming experience will ever come close to this era of Xbox 360 Halo. This was more than a game - it was something you grew up with. This shared experience is ours forever
I wished i could go back to that time... Met so many random people, played day after day with those new made online friends, had fun with each match, did campaign on splitscreen with my highschool buddy etcetcetc. Will there ever be a game this great?
Bungie: how can we best serve the player?
343: how can we manipulate the player to serve us?
This is amazing.
RIP Bungie
assfuck
+Fred Lavar Steenerson Stevens Herbert Why are you doing this sir?
Fred Lavar Steenerson Stevens Herbert YOU KNOW WHAT??? Take your childish butt and go some place
+DEADLYANT get mad kid
Dude, 343 destroyed the Halo franchise. Bungie had more passion and were detailed in there explanations.
To me master chief is still drifting away in space.
Poor guy needs to wake up to a better campaign.
I liked 4 fine, it was ok tbh. But 5 was a dumpster fire
@@flyde6521 i have the same opinion
@@Oskar_464 im struggling to fully realise why 4 is hated so much, the Campaign was pretty good, the graphics were great for 2012 too, the only thing I could think of is the change in art style
@@flyde6521 i think its hated mainly because of a new developer
This aged like the finest wine 🍷
I come back once in a while to remind myself what 343 did. Remember that when they post an update and say everything gets better eventually™
When it should be ready right from the start.
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo well, you can't win them all
@@langleysenterprise5134 What’s that supposed to mean?
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo it means do not expect too much or too high from people
@@langleysenterprise5134 So i am right?
When the dude with the shit-eating grin says: “Yes, I love it” after they open the card pack 😂
I love how you can see Bungie actually playing the game whereas 343 is just showing off cinematic cutscenes. Really shows how genuine these people were with making the game fun
indeed
That's key
Storywise 4 is the best
Odst
And halo 2 but its a mess and so many I consistency
@@generaljeanmoreau6853 it might have been the best story in concept. ,But the it wasn't executed well at all. Covenant war was over and the banished should've appeared here as the new threat instead of a nonthreatening remnant. I like the return of the Forerunners and the Cortana crisis to fight for but it wasn't captivating like Halo 2 and 3 were. It was something other than halo and was off-putting I thought.
@@garretttekampe9564
halo 4 probably has the best story and a great end for master chief especially that last cutscenes and him and cortana departing
halo 5 had good conceot but its a damn mess
Halo 3 should have been the end.
"Finish the Fight" means nothing now.
Indeed, reach was not that bad other then there were a lot of screw ups within the lore. As a game and how much time the story had I would say it was a really great ending to the series.
Shane McDowell the legendary ending of Halo 3 teased Requiem (which we see in Halo 4) and Bungie actually briefly worked on Halo 4 before deciding to make Halo reach instead. Not even bungie wanted the halo story to end at Halo 3
Shane McDowell
It does for me lol I've decided Halo 4 and beyond are not part of Halo lol
Shane McDowell i personally dig halo 4 where they took the the story but halo 5 was a disaster
it teased Something but not conformed like it could have been the Arbiters Ship or the SUN!!!
Bungie: "If you somehow believe that what your setting out to do is the greatest thing ever all the time, it's absolutely not gonna be the greatest thing ever."
343: This game is perfect. *proceeds to make worst halo game in series.*
Halo 3 is the worst game in the series.
@@cesarst3720lol nice bait, if you really believe that you’re beyond delusional
People will just get mad if you say the truth, deal with it.@@Sc4r1_
343’s leadership and Microsoft still hasn’t taken notes after 5 years...
"If a game doesn't entertain us in five minutes we stop playing it"
~The team that made the library level
LMAO
I don't know what it is with me, I know the Library is the most dreaded Halo level, and yet somehow I find it to be tons of fun. That's just me.
@@as7river
Its called nostalgia and its not good because it meddles with your personally feelings
@@generaljeanmoreau6853 "Nostalgia is not good because it meddles with your feelings", now that's a first. It's not open heart surgery dude, it's a game. Nostalgia's fine.
@@as7river
I meant that when people try to argue with facts they use nostalgia like "I have so many memories on halo 3 that's why its the best halo"
Something like that
I never understood why 343 needed to cater to new players in a franchise that sold 20 million plus per game lol.
Lord only knows, I get the impression that they thought they could get more players by "appealing to a wider audience" probably by focus group testing a bunch of 12 year olds not realising that they already had a winning formula that was about as popular as it was going to get.
Corporate greed, enough is never enough.
@@RossMitchellsProfile except they didnt, they pretty much killed off the old players.
@@jimmythecrow They don't care about playberbase, only about customers. That's true of every company and will always be, they meet the requirements for the best foreseeable (short-term) profit.
If the majority of customer is willing to buy anything and even defend it, forget everything and buy again, then companies follow suit and produce accordingly. Short term gain, no long term consequences.
They tried to make a cod game but ultimately black ops 2 was a better cod game than halo 4
That pizza ad is enough to make a whole video on why 343 is incompetant.
*Loot box demonstration plays*
Producer: "I love it!"
Pain.
The joy in designing slot machines aimed at kids to prey on addictive vulnerabilities and unregulated spending is sickening
"Tried to make it something like" cuts in "BLACK OPS 3" I laughed way too hard
Gavin Wood more like call of duty advanced warfare lol
I'm by myself and I laughed out loud as well
Halo Reach is the worst Halo game to date, no doubt about it. More content? My ass LOL. It's story was over-all the worst as well, bottom of the barrel over-all.
Halo 4 had way more content to play and see then Reach did at all. Hell, Halo 4's forge alone was a slight improvement of Reach's, and it's custom game options were widely the same (besides some problems with the Infection game type that is)
The only problem with Halo 4 was that it had to many similarities to Reach, causing it to over-all die. It's gameplay though was essentially Halo 2's when you get rid of all the loadouts, AA's and such.
Halo 4 also had a wayy better story then any of the Halo games to date.
Halo 5 improved upon Halo 4 in terms of the content, it just took 343 much longer to release all of the content over a year due to the fact that they essentially had to recreate the story from scratch a year upon release due to Microsoft's own doings, which essentially you got the story you have today. Nothing to do with 343 at all.
+Nighterlev Reach being the worst? You're insane.
+Ryan Rosen What? It's just a bad game.
5:49
"Not halo 2, not something in the middle, but to make it"-
"Call of Duty, Black Ops III!"
And this is how Halo died :'(
Jameson Doane that's not at 5:48
Damn. That was sensitive.
5:49. Fine.
Jameson Doane damn actually i think my video was loaded strangely the last time i watched it, at 5:48 they were talking about the trip mine for me, but now it's the "make it blops 3" scene
Jameson Doane also btw i found that 5:45 was the best time to start it. That way, you catch the full quote
When will Activision buy halo?
Bungie=Passion and honesty
343=Money and just for show
The whole problem with 343's attempts at "injecting character" into Chief is that he was never a "character" in the first place. What can you honestly say is a defining character trait in Chief? He's brave? Like Joe Staten said, he's a green suit of armor you inhabit that allows you to shoot aliens, and we loved him for it. All of his spoken dialogue is written in the perspective of the player's immediate knowledge, and current thoughts of what's happening in the world, with some occasional early 2000s "I just want to shoot shit" quippy attitude. He's a reflection of the player through and through. Without the unique connection each player develops while playing the trilogy, Chief is nothing more than a husk. So when 343 sets out to "find Chief's humanity", that means having to establish a baseline of Chief's canon personality and basically shitting on the connection people made with him in the original trilogy, with the problem being exacerbated with them choosing to heavily base all of their games on a hyper-exagerated Chief and Cortana relationship. Chief and Cortana were nothing more than battlemates, with some playfulness thrown in here and there. If Halo 4 was your first game, you'd think they were fuckin' in love.
I would upvote this, but it's the lucky number. Sorry bro.
@@physical_insanity horny. [bonk]
No, they were definitely lovers.
@@macaryl95 I hereby declare you a heretic.
Halo 4 was weird but I think infinite nailed chiefs character. They did something well there.
I am eternally grateful that I had the opportunity to play Halo during the golden age. Long live the Halo Trilogy.
And Reach
EpicHysteria that was the golden age
Yeh, same. The only Halo games I haven't played are Halo 2 and 5 (I also never properly played through ODST), but still, they were a big part of my childhood and I used to play deathmatch in CE a lot with my brother.
@@EpicHysteria Reach was probably my favourite.
Jozinek please stop whatever you’r doing and go play Halo 2 RIGHT NOW