2018 / 2019 Ford F-150 Diesel Review - Downsizing the PowerStroke
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- Soon there will be three 1/2 ton trucks in America with a diesel engine but for the moment there is just one and it's not the RAM. With FCA's EcoDiesel on hiatus and GM's inline-6 diesel yet top be released, if you want a diesel half ton, you want the 2019 Ford F-150. As with the RAM diesel, the Ford diesel started its life in Europe under the hoods of Ford's former luxury brands from Europe where it's helped power Land Rovers up mountains and across fields. Ford took the basic engine design, reworked it for truck duty and mated it to their latest 10-speed automatic for improved towing and hauling ability. Does that make the F-150 diesel the best powertrain option? Let's find out.
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I agree with your analysis. The 2.7 L turbo will meet more than 90% of everyone’s needs.
Good to hear a second opinion. I just bought my first trailer a 23' Airstream that has 4800 gvw. I was deciding between a diesel or turbo. Like Alex said I might once every month or so hook it up to go camping. Maybe in that two week stretch of an annual vacation a bit more. Turbo might be it.
The Diesel will runs circles on the 2.7 in reliability lol
We love our F150 Diesel, and we get 30 mpg on the highway.
Just purchased a 3.0 Lariat and plan on giving it to my son in 9 years when he turns 16. That was an important deciding factor in my purchase as well. Purchased the $64k pretty loaded lariat Fx4 off road with fold down running boards, sport package and leather for $55k. Loving it so far
Your trail footage is the best I've seen from you and enjoyed it. Thank you
Thought other reviews great, but this is exceptional. Great work :) The overall cost was a big eye-opener!
Wow that was a hell of a private road. Looked like you were dangerously close to going over the edge a couple of times. Great footage & informative narration. Thanks.
First things first: Great job as usual, Mr. Alex ! 👍👌
This guy is legit,there’s a lot of reviewers out there that always leave me with one or two more questions I find myself googling.not this dude,boy is thorough.and All I need is the v8.I have the 5.0 2017 f150 and it’s all I want.
Bought 2018 3.0 diesel and I love it... put air intake on and a new module and I’m getting 24.4 drive around befor highway...and awesome pick up and go
Very well organized review Alex and I love those forest views! 😍
Another great review Alex, thanks!! You truly deserve way more subs!!
Alex does great reviews. Well done Alex.
good review. I have the 3 liter diesel and love it. drivability also makes a big difference on choosing an engine. That engine is great except from a full stop catting into traffic where the turbo lag is huge. on the go this engine is great.
That is one interesting trail.
Outstanding review!!
Wow! Alex, I’ve watched a lot and I mean, A LOT! of truck videos. You did it best. Thorough, informative and accurate. Not to mention properly articulate. Nothing is more annoying than, a lazy tongued host (yes, that is weird sounding I know, let the comments fly here!) when talking.
Apart from above great work, liking and subscribing, dropping the TFLT folks.
Excellent review Alex as per the norm. I confess I would gravitate to the 2.7 mill in leu of that diesel in the 1/2 ton segment. However If I still needed a diesel I'd take the 3/4 ton F 250 diesel mill and be just fine.
Anyone else oddly satisfied by the driving segment where the camera was on the trailer? I wanted more ☹️
Great review, Alex. By far the most thorough review I’ve found. Thx!
best car reviews on youtube !!
Great review. I replaced my 2015 5.0l with the 3.0 power stroke and do not regret it one bit. I pull a trailer regularly and have seen big fuel economy differences. The engine is very quiet in all situations. I looked at 3/4 ton cause it seemed to make sense but the ride without a payload and without a trailer is horrible compared to the f150. We tend to use this vehicle for long road trips as well so that was not an option. Could I have gotten away with the 2.7 sure but I like what I like and I like diesel power. It's only money anyway right? You can greatly increase the power easily with a tune for cheap and be dusting gasers in power and fuel economy. I would do this purchase over again in a heartbeat.
I have been thinking about stepping down my F350 since I do not haul anything over 10k lbs. How heavy is your trailer that you pull and do you ever feel like you need more power?
Waooo forget talking to a car sales person. Alex is one of the best in the auto car review industry. Maybe a review on your ranch on the future Alex? Cheers from Florence Texas.
I own one of these trucks and I would highly recommend it.
We have the 2.7 . wish I could compare it head to head with the diesel to see the difference in fuel economy/towing feel. Solid review.
thanks for the in put it really helps. I would have thought the v6 turbo would have had trouble pulling All that truck. is the same true for the Expedition the big one . thanks again🐬🐬. liked the review.
I went with a 2019 f250 6.7 Diesel Lariat Crew Cab. The f150 diesels are the same price and you get a whole lot less truck (2600 lbs less to be exact) and a whole lot of nuisance (auto stop/start, trailer backup assist, too many gears not enuff power and a timing belt) when you choose the f150.
I’m so happy with my f250 6.7. It has tons of power and makes my 8400 lbs truck seem like it’s 3500 lbs! And the 6-speed torqueshift tranny is great too!
Like the engineering explanations.
Alex: tall, buff, shirt hair, lives in the woods and owns 6 chainsaws in a shack he also keeps his machete collection.
A very suitable Halloween episode.
It’s August 2020 I just bought a used 2019 Platinum Diesel for the price of a new model year XLT and I let the first owner take the hit for the more expensive engine and I get better gas mileage and a much nicer interior. Win win.
Its been nearly 4 years now since this review - question for actual owners of the Power Stroke 3.0 V6 diesel F150 - how have your engines fared after all this time? Any issues? In the Land Rovers there have been serious issues like spun big end bearings, catastrophic crankshaft breakages, cracked/leaking plastic inlet manifolds, oil cooler leaks, etc. Have the design changes made by Ford USA made the engine more reliable, or has it also been problematic?
Thanks Alex!!
The best as usual Alex.
Great review!
Having a timing belt is another negative. I have a feeling there will be costs associated with the exhaust end of the engine as well. Durability is also what diesels were supposed to be about. I'm sad to say I think diesels are not what they used to be.
Now that we are half way through 2019 and there are plenty of 2018 F150 diesels sitting on dealer lots...and diesel is priced less than gas in Canada...the time may be right given the blowout discounts to clear remaining 2018's....
Great review, Thank you! what mpg did you get when towing your 7k trailer?
I'm considering purchasing a 2019 F-150 3.0L Powerstroke. What should I expect to pay for oil changes and fuel filter replacement and what are mileage intervals?
About the bed durability you forgot to mention or consider that aluminum won’t rust and that is a big advantage on the coast or where they salt the road for snow.
But aluminum corrodes... Time will tell if the corrosion is worse or better than the rust issues trucks have
They started selling these aluminum body in late 2014 I'm assuming... 2015 was the first one.
Someone should do a video who has a 2015 and living a winter state where they have alot salt.
@@lauderdalechad
Think Airstream trailers. They hold up VERY well through the decades.
Edit: spelling
There is one F150 from 2012 in my place in Croatia, looks totally off the place here.. :)
Excellent!
Alex I have to correct you. On the tailgate there is only one camera. The other one is a light for the camera at night.
What about if you live in Canada and diesel is 15-25 cents cheaper per gallon?
What about for someone who doesn't tow but just needs better mpg with bigger tires? Going from 265's to 305's usually knocks down the gas mileage too much in the v8.
I find your fascination for chainsaws disturbing... Happy Halloween!
Is this the engine same as the F150 PS Diesel 2021 that is now currently selling in the Philippines? This engine will automatic off when you are on traffic light? Why Ford discontinue this engine while they are selling in my Country?
I'm thinking about getting rid of my Toyota tundra and repreplacing it with the new Ford diesel. I drive a lot of miles. On average 45,000-50,000 a year. I also tow three snowmobiles behind it during the winter. So thinking that the greater mpg, the 100k mile warranty over the 60k warranty on the EcoBoost, the towing capabilities, the possible better trade in value, and hopeful longevity of the proven motor would be better for my driving style over the EcoBoost. Thoughts?
I'm in the same spot you are. I am actually contemplating going 3/4 ton due to higher resale. But but by the time I am done driving either a 1/2 or 3/4 ton diesel resale probably won't matter. I am worried about the timing belt on this engine instead of the gear driven setup on the 6.7 powerstroke or heavier duty variants from other manufacturer's.
Thank God the trooper survived!
Can you make more videos from diesel trucks? German sience people have make the diesel gasoline the texture different and now you have no dirty more coming out of your exhaust.
Liking the tee-shirt..
which is better towing in the mountains?
Good review. Best engine is still the 5.0V8!
The F150 diesel is a marketing disaster. In my opinion they should have used a timing chain as a rubber belt is a weakness that no diesel engine should have to defend. They should have priced it between the 2.7 EB and the 5.0 V8. They should have made it available across all trim levels. Had they done those things they would not be able to make them fast enough. As it is they cant seem to push them off of the lot fast enough because the math doesn't make any sense. If I am going to spend that sort of money I may as well go ahead and get the big boy truck (3/4 ton or 1 ton) from Ford (or someone else). This power plant does absolutely nothing to justify it's steep cost. I predict that Ford will drop it in a few years.
I agree... you can get a nice xlt f350 for that price.
I'm shocked they didn't come ask you before making their decision.
It'll stick around. CAFE standards require it even if it's hard to justify on the consumer end.
The Colorado diesel costs $3730 more and I see a ton of them here in WA. I think it sells well to those who just like the engine, live somewhere that diesel is near the same price, and tow a ton. Some states it will not be a common sight. In others, probably more common. It will never outsell the 2.7...those who only care about the numbers will take no interest unless they tow a lot. That doesn't mean it won't sell.
absolutely 100% completely agree. Rumor had it GM is going to put the inline-6 diesel in the work truck edition
Silverado's. Still have yet to confirm that at this point. I am not brand particular. I AM, however, reliability particular.
My old F150 with the 300 I6 that had right on 300k miles on it I sold almost 8 years ago. The dude who bought it is STILL driving it !!!!!
Belt vs chain... I'd take a belt over a chain, the belt has a maintenance schedule, the chain will fail when the chain or guides fail, plus the parts are much more expensive. Chains typically don't last past 200,000 miles, Belts are usually 100,000 miles or 120,000 miles. A chain repair (if on the front of the engine) is usually a $2000 job or more, where a timing belt is usually an $800-$1000 job. If the chain breaks when it's still within it's maintenance interval, it usually chops the case up, where a belt just leaves a mess.
As it is, I doubt I'd go with this engine for other reasons you stated... just disagree with the belt vs chain. 99% agree with what you say.
We will know who caused the next "Chainsaw Massacre". Love it, Alex!😉
why dont ford/gm make coil spring and air bags?
While I love your reviews Alex...This truck screams "Look at me! I spent too much money!" Especially that large billboard across the back...
need comparison between fords 3.5L gas vs their 3.0 diesel, not just the 2.7L gas.
need more comparison on engine braking.
reliability?
JK 241 the engine breaking on the 3.5 is horrible. The gears are so close it just revs out. Going up hill is great.
Diesels are for constant hauling, occasional hauling and the other engines definitely meet the demand better than the diesel.
I thought that was a Resident Evil 4 GameCube controller LOL.
So when are we getting Alex on Chainsaws?
Be Stihl, my heart!
@@dchawk81
I see what you did there. Lol
@@Sig721Tau Yeah I'm punny.
@@Sig721Tau I'm told I should be a comedian but I don't work well with others so I'm just a median.
Another great video! The only thing you didn’t really mention is reliability. There is probably no solid long term reliability data yet, but I think most 3.0 diesel owners hope to get the million mile reliability of the old 7.3 turbo diesel. Or at least they hope for double. If the 3.0 lasts 500k miles and the 2.7 is done at 250k, the numbers all add up differently.
You’re probably the first/only person ever to say that the POS GM 8 Speed is smoother than the GM/Ford 10 speed.
Very detailed solid review. Very Balanced and unbiased...It’s refreshing especially when TFL truck dick rides Ford trucks like it’s going out of style. Well done.
Well said.
It is too bad, some of us were waiting for a real working diesel and instead they offer a, I guess, hobby diesel. No thanks. I will go back to my plan to buy a 350 and the heck with it.
I feel like the F150 has a better market (and mpg) for a hybrid than it does a diesel. If I want to haul anything serious or regularly, I'll get a F250.
Love diesel but everyone charges such a premium that it's never worth getting . Still don't know why it can't cost that much more to make than a gas . I can't believe how good the battery chain saw work i use mine 75% of the time over my small gas one .So convenient. I'm getting 18mpg out of my 3.7 in my 2014 4x4
Hopefully RAM makes the eTorque on the Diesel reboot standard and resolves it's gutless nature. If you don't have a big jump in MPG's over a gas engine then the extra cost for the engine & fuel & DEF is pointless.
Ford is moving up
I think I would prefer the diesel over the 2.7
What about the longevity of diesel engines over gas engines?
The engine itself usually isn't the part to worry about. I've got a 33 year old one that still starts every day.
What's up in the air is the emissions systems. The DEF injection, the DPF filter, etc are all expensive things to maintain and/or repair and/or replace.
When will it @#$% up not long
@23:50 you say the F-150 is the most fuel efficient in the F-150 range...
As an owner of a Edge Sport with the 2.7 I agree. When the video started and you presented the numbers I immediately thought, why would someone pay a premium for the diesel over the 2.7. It's a fantastic engine. One I suspect will have incredible longevity too because of the way it was built. It really is a gem of an engine.
how many of you skipped to the last part of video to see why alex said so?
I'm not Ford guy,but in 1976 you could buy a basic ford 150 for 3776, bicentennial year and all came with a 300 six and 4 speed,that wouldn't be a down payment today,this has been my bicentennial minute
Aluminum will take the payload believe me ,,,most of f150 sales are high end models ,very low percentage will load heavy rocks on beds ...and if its mandatory ill use a rubber bed liner ..most of high end pick up drivers like me prefer bed liner anyways looks better n keeps the bed ...some comon sense i mean
The 2.7 twin turbo engine dynos 315 rear wheel horsepower. That makes that engine more like 350 hp at the crank and diesel like torque numbers. Go drive one!
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Your videos are great, Alex. Please get rid of the thought bubbles...just doens't work.
Alex what happened to seat rating?
He reviewed 2015 model, which should be the same. Too bad the massage seats are only for higher trims.
At current gas vs diesel prices and the up front cost of this diesel engine, you will need to drive it between 135-160,000 miles to break even on cost. This excludes any repairs or the huge cost jump by forcing you to buy a higher trim to access the engine. Do frivolously spending platinum owners really want a significantly weaker engine to boost mpg a marginal number?
Bobby have you driven one? I own a platinum diesel f150. Sure it’s expensive, but it’s a damn nice truck.
i dont like the new leds . the dots design looks cheap like aftermarket options . i prefer the defused design like the old one where it looks like one single piece .
They need to EV the F-150. They would make such a badass EV if they just tried...
Trucks would be perfect for a hydrogen powertrain
Well that paint is ruined, going through that trail with all those Bushes scratching it. I'd be so pissed if I was the dealer that loaned the truck.
A new five-alarm dumpster fire for Bill Hewitt to figure out
Mopar and air suspension... How many seconds before that fails?! lol...
This Diesel better be a non-interference engine.
It will interfere in your finances more ways than you can imagine. Sorry.
Can't see paying $75k+ for a pick-up.
3.0l engine? feels like BMW M57 from 1999.
somebody PLEASE tell me why this engine or the 2.7 in the 150 get BETTER mpg than the Nautelus/MKX or Edge!!!
i mean, it would be so nice if we could enjoy these cars with the same engines and get the mileage.
Chainsaw?.....Well, it is almost Halloween, sooooo....
Quite an unusual thing on this channel, but he didn't even talk about how the diesel drives and tows! The whole video was comparison of spec sheets.. What's up with that Alex? Where's the actual real world driving review?!?!
lauderdalechad ...at 10 minutes in he does drive it...
Might want to make an edit point at 15:29. "F-150 is the most fuel efficient vehicle in the F-150 lineup." I'm assuming you meant F-150 Diesel.
counterpoint DELETE the exhaust put a programmer on it 3 #rollcoal
Deleting your exhaust to roll coal will fail your emissions test if you live in a state that requires emissions test. This mod will eventually cost you another engine.
@@atx-cvpi_99 its called Indiana we dont have that
3.3 or 5.0 for me. Forget that turbo crap, and the diesel is only for those looking to waste as much money as possible.
I'd buy a house for that money
Anyone buying ecoboost anything from Ford let me know what dealership your gonna be at so that when you come out I can sing "Farewell Spanish Ladies" to you and your money like Quint from the Jaws movie sings to Hooper upon seeing his shark cage.
That was a long sentence...
Can't think of another vehicle where you can get a $500k super car engine in a $50k vehicle like the F150. Not sure if that's a compliment to the Ford GT or a diss. Very interesting none the less
Your towing scares me, bruh.
Wait it has that engine? Omg , fail! At least I think so.
Hand talkers. They just can't help themselves. They even do it while driving and.... towing. 🤦
Did you say anything about how the diesel pulls, sounds, mileage, or anything we want to know specifically about the engine? That is why we tuned in. I gave up about half way in.
Damn I never knew diesel was more expensive in the States.. :0 Diesel is cheap as hell compared to regular gas here in Canada.
Diesel is more expensive the gasoline in Ontario, in London today its 10 to 20 cents a liter more.
Diesel is about 15 cents / liter more than gas in Alberta.