Olivia Wilde USED Jordan Peterson and Shia LaBeouf
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- Before Don't Worry Darling, even has a chance to woo its audience it was embroiled in all sorts of controversy thanks to its director Olivia Wilde and her comments regarding the firing of Shia LaBeouf as well as villainous comparisons with Jordan Peterson and how he is the hero of the Incel community. The movie itself is not great, but unfortunately, it's also promoting a pretty terrible message.
In this video, I dive into the drama as well as why Jordan Peterson and Shia LaBeouf got dragged into some intense virtue signaling.
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The main villain of this story is Olivia Wilde ironically. Abandoned her fiance, betrayed her kids and didn't fulfill her professionally duties, all because she wanted to be Harry Styles' No.1 Groupie
Would actually like to see a genderbent version of this kind of story.
Funnily enough, I just got an ad right in the middle of the video talking about some rumor about Olivia Wilde and something to do with her husband, Harry Styles, and a salad, and I don't know what it was about exactly, nor do I care, but I just find it funny that I got an ad about her while watching a video in part about her.
@@leirawhitehart1236 Ahh yes the Salad Arc is well known.....
Maybe the wife who said "Now it's my turn," was supposed to represent Olivia. 👀 Now she gets to trap victims in the simulation.
Have you ever noticed how celebrities will start dating those they are making movies with? Often times, its for publicity. If you pay attention, they usually break up after the movie comes out and bombs. Ben Affleck and JLO, did this back in the early 2000s, with her stupid woke film Gigli. Harry Styles isn't very bright so the kid probably thought this crazy lady actually liked him......lol
I like how she thinks she is questioning the "system" but in reality she literally works for the "system"
She knows she works for the system. She wants people to call her brave. That’s all this is about.
Op
Exactly! The same system that made her rich and famous.
I have a hard time believing she’s not aware that this “system” has been very advantageous to her. If we assume she knows this - then that means she’s knowingly and intentionally just catering to her audience - young brainwashed women, while at the same time, rustling feathers. It’s good, free marketing.
She's a mole. A worm tongue sort of figure.
She takes what - she thinks - our current society looks like, and paints it in an apparent positive light - She does this by contrasting it with a worse dystopia that exists only in her own head.
'If you can't sell your own message, distort your enemies message into something too awful to buy into.'
That's the dictum she appears to follow.
@@youtubechannel12371 exactly
So she used this entire drama to cover up her cheating ass? Got it.
Then got cheated on and dumped herself
And her cheating balls
No, we care about misinformation not Olivia's personal life that gossipy people get off on
@@moxiemaxie3543 the whole video is her using her personal life not professional life to promote her so called work or projects
@@moxiemaxie3543 true, her personal life has got nothing to do with this narrative but yes her demeaning men is wrong when she isn't perfect herself
It’s interesting that she made a film about “toxic masculinity” but instead revealed how toxic she is, especially when she claimed Shia sexually assaulted Florence, and Florence came out and said it never happened, only later to have Olivia take to social media and Trash Florence.
Nothing spells toxic like modern feminist.
Sounds like lawsuit material to me.
Well she's a 'Woke' Female Narcissist.
Hollywood is a hotbed of Narcissist Personality Disorder.
The 'Woke Mind Virus' is Narcissism. So like all Narcs, she'll have Zero Self-Awareness...which leads to her 'Projecting' her own negative flaws (ie gender-based toxicity, bigotry and supremacy - Female Narcs are literal supremacists).
All the Covert Narcissists and 'Flying Monkeys' of the Woke movement have these two narcissist traits. All the other traits too!
It's a pity the world doesn't study 'Cluster B' personality disorders.
Harry Styles is your classic thick Grandiose Narcissist too, his 'Flying Monkeys' will protect him from criticism though.
Wth
@@ryanmac8283 what specifically?
Yo Shia’s letter gave me an all new respect for him. So mature and well spoken. I’ll be following his career with more interest now although it’s possible his calling is just to be a father and husband now. I say “just” but it is in reality a much higher calling than being JUST an actor.
Shia shirt for Shia Fans..link on my page
It's called a publicist
@@aaronhepler8070 you really aren’t familiar with Shia LaBeouf
@@braynjohnson4302 lol and you are? He's "just" a woman beater, an abuser, and an egomaniac. But hey at least he wrote a nice letter once.
@@aaronhepler8070 exactly. Dude was nasty and had a serious problem.
Over the past couple years he really seems like a different person. People do change.
Wow, Shia Labeouf's letter just allowed Olivia Wilde to reveal herself for who she really is
She has a shady past in terms of the people she’s been associated with. I’m watching this to see if her Weinstein friendship was mentioned. (No, none of the following.) His behavior was an open secret in Hollywood (joked about in TV shows and award programs) and she only distanced herself from him after the Ronan expose and even then hers was a delayed response. A real feminist wouldn’t be kissy face / close with him for all those years (she can’t have not known). She was also name dropped in an allegation about Weinstein (two years before the expose)-Weinstein trying to get a model (who wanted to go into acting) into bed proposed a 3-some with the two of them and Wilde. Why Wilde? And then, the hiring of Nick Kroll when his father’s firm worked to silence Weinstein’s victims? Um, no. Too close an association for comfort. Surely there were other actors good for the role if she cares about women so much.
She praises Keidis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers whenever even after his auto-biography where he brags about statutory rape of a 14 year old girl. What sort of feminist does that? (A fake one, a feminist of convenience, one who uses feminism like she uses everything else to get what she wants.)
And let’s not forget her close friend Paul Haggis, who was arrested for rape this year (with multiple allegations against him). She served on a board with him of a charity he started.
Perhaps she didn’t know about Haggis, but she had to know about Weinstein, Kroll, and Keidis. Too much to be explained away if you ask me. She’s a pathological liar and an opportunist. She uses feminism to excuse herself of her own bad behavior. She’s just a user all the way around.
Shia isn’t that much of an innocent person himself but in this situation, she wanted to work with him before the abuse allegations about him came about so for her to use Fka twigs story for her own benefit is terrible
@@giasaleen2 Everyone knows Shia hasn't behaved perfectly in the past (like most humans) lol. He's on a redemption arc, so we leave him to that and wish him the best. Olivia, on the other hand, needs to do better and start her arc asap. But to do that, she'd have to own up to her faults and be accountable like a proper adult. Fingers crossed lmao
@@zangetsu1597 I mean he’s almost killed two if his ex girlfriend’s lol so let’s hope he got the proper help he needed.
@@giasaleen2 if he is the one that truly wrote that letter (i'd have a hard time even believing he could find someone qualified to write a letter that well done) I have confidence that he is in a good place to be better. That letter was extremely well said and is the words of someone who is stable, educated, and capable of being influenced by others.
Chris Pine dissociating in interviews is everything I need to know about this movie 🤣
I hate to break it to you, but he’s a hardcore woke liberal like the rest of the Shit-bags in Hollywood. He makes a lot of money to play pretend for a living. It’s like Keanu Reeves, Republicans think he’s one of the them because they see him firing a gun in movies. The truth is he and his girlfriend/mom are both hard core environmentalists and Democrats.
The one where he's next to Harry rambling on about nothing and his look just screams "wait, is this guy developmentally disabled?"
@@Thor-Orion "My favorite thing about the movie is that it feels like a movie..." I had to go back and make sure I heard that right. He sure has a way with words, that one.
@@TartarusHunter Olivia Wilde's last name is really accurate. Because it's fucking wild to cheat on the sweetheart that is Jason Sudekis for this clown.
@@Thor-Orion lol I don't follow a lot of things like this so I had no idea who her fiancé was... wow... I didn't think it was possible to like her less but that sure did the trick.
So impressed with Shia.. Olivia is very prone to self aggrandizing, morally virtuous word salads.. all while looking so impressed with her “profound” talking points.. gives me total Meghan Markle vibes.
Thank you!!! I have always said she has the narcissism of Meghan Markle and Amber Heard, they think they are smarter than everyone. Eventually their fate will be the same, people see them for repealing humans they are. Let's not add the Harvey Weinstein accusations to her list of offences, and she gaslight us to think she is being targeted for being female.
She's a legend in her own mind.
@@leonardoD81 🤣🤣🤣🤣
she is beautiful and we can see what damage that has done to her. when you go your whole life with people admiring you, listening to you, and wanting to be around you that privilege takes its toll.
I heard she likes a bit of salad😂
I had the absolute pleasure of meeting Dr Peterson randomly, him and his wife were walking around the town I live. He graciously allowed me to take selfies with him, and even held my camera for me because my hands were shaking with disbelief. He is actually a very kind and warm man.
That is such a great experience! I'm sure I'd be a mental blank slate if I ever got to meet him!
Sadly he’s getting memed on with people swapping skeletor out for him in he man edits and some cheered once he caught Covid
@@Thomasmemoryscentral That's the mob culture that calls itself woke. Somebody says "he's a bigot" and everybody just blindly follows without questioning why or checking facts. Just like the mob that used to lynch people and burn witches. Same brown stuff - different time.
More people should look up to famous people like him instead of actors cause most actors are awful people.
@@RichardBirdsall I like the term "metal blank slate" . I shall hense forth use it in place of "my mind went blank" or "I blanked out". Thank you.
Olivia ironically is the villain she’s the one who abandoned her husband, betrayed her kids all to date Harry styles
isnt harry styles gay or something??
Definitely something.@@pr00009
dang. feminism.
@@pr00009Louis AND himself....they for SURE were each other's first loves....
@@mollybrolly4717 gross
Oh boy - Harry Styles is about as philosophical and wise as a sun dried tomato, and poor Chris Pyne. First Wonder Woman 1984 and now this. I feel sorry for him. I never had any plans to see this because I assumed it would be a case of "style over substance" and I think I made the correct decision.
I like sun-dried tomatoes & it deserves better justice, darling! When used & cooked right for a dish, especially. Making it akin to Harry Styles' stunted maturity is 🤢🤮🤧😵💫
But thing is, sun dried tomatoes are tasty on sandwiches.
@@rebeccaliew2247 I do apologize, I forgot to think that fruits and vegetables do have many good functions and benefits in this world, unlike former members of "One Direction". Best wishes and good vibes to all the sun dried tomatoes out there! 👍
What is wrong with wonder woman? Hmm..
@@marianaanghel4528 The second one, is horrible
Jordan Peterson - “men, stop acting like philandering assholes, nut up and be a good person”
Everyone - “Omg, that’s misogynistic. He’s trying to control women!! 🤬”
Why are people like this? 😂😂😂
Obviously the challenge of "clean up your room" is way too triggering for them.
We live in a fallen world. Everything is wrong.
@@SamStone1964 Lobster Man Bad...apparently.
Because these women are not feminists they are men haters, they are jealous of them,they want to be like the men they claim to hate!
people are like that because they're lying. and because they don't want whats best for men, it's pretty obvious.
now you have to ask yourself why they would want such a thing. and that's where the answers start getting interesting
Tbh, Shia's open letter to her is VERY diplomatic and classy
It was very mature and respectful. And it still didn't work. Olivia is a cow.
Shia although he once seemed crazy to the public is actually incredibly articulate and a well thought out person. I think his roles as a younger kid are what give people this idea that he is the character he was playing when in all reality he’s just that good of an actor
Adhd, autism, ptsd...
It was the longest NO I ever read.
Yes. Almost annoyingly so.
Great analyse! I’m a 53 year old single mother and Dr Peterson is my powerhouse. I used to feel shame for not having a career but since I read his books and follow his talks I’m proud of my place in life, he also made me realize why I was too agreeable, to take my place, put my limits, how proud I am of the daughters I raised and their humility, how virtuous they are. Tammy also made me closer to god, thankful for life, brave to recover from illness, Jordan helped me understand my ptsd and gave me hope. It became cliche but he saved my life, in 2016 I began watching him and I felt suicidal from abuse flashbacks, poverty, deep sadness. Nowadays, listening to him is a reassuring presence and I don’t care what people say or think about me, I know who I am. My daughters are confident and strong, the youngest is now 16 and she has such good values, she stands out and other kids refer to her like a little life coach. She isn’t in a hurry to burn stages or give herself to please a boy. Dr Peterson empowered me and my girls.
It takes a lot of courage and effort to reach the point you’ve reached. I can only tell you that you’ve done a great job 👏🏻 not many people are able to do the thing that you did
Such a beautiful and inspiring and heart warming comment. God bless you and your beautiful girls. I hope you all find happiness that you deserve.
Dam, it took you 45 years to learn common sense. That's sad.
Analysis...🙄
@@NiRvAnA6890😂😂😂😂
For me, coming from a Christian upbringing, what brought me to Peterson was his talks on Biblical stories and how they are still relevant. For the first time, an educated man was discussing the stories of the Bible in a way that was supportive of it. That is what brought me to him. I do feel for him and hope he continues to grow in a better way. I hope he finds God.
He has said that he found God and is no longer atheist. There are videos and interviews too
That interview with Chris Pine staring into the void like he wanted it swallow him truly captured the exact reaction I had while watching this film.
I wanted to laugh, but legitimate concern for the man prevented it.
I hope there's a redemption arc for Chris Pines on the way.
A nice happy film he can be proud of.
You actually saw it?😬😳. I watched the stepford wives years ago and liked it. And when I heard about this I was like eehh. Sounds like a new version of that and those usually come off like knockoffs. So I'll pass but after all the drama I was like this movie must really be bad to try and push so many different things at once. Hollywood is a great at that
He looks awful with long hair. He looks a lot better with short hair.
Feminists: men need to be better! Do better!
Jordan Peterson: *tells men how to be better and do better*
Feminists: this man is worse than Hitler….
Meatbags add many unnecessary complications to what they call Life.
I think we are in a no-win situation. Men have been demonized and women infantilized by modern feminism. It is designed to tear us apart.
To be fair, it is very dumb to listen to JP.
Spot on 🎯
@@cranberry2490why exactly?
What strikes me as very odd is that Wilde is accusing the patriarchy as mean and deceitful and yet here she is running this $40 million production. Then she's using this production to shield her personal affair with Styles from her fiance and children, came up with excuses for her family not to come on set, didn't show up on set to direct for several days, lied about the reasons Shia LaBeouf quit the production, etc. So Wilde has learned the means to use movie productions to get away with deceitful things
Also, on the Shia situation, I truly believe she wanted a fling with him and Shia wouldn't budge. That's what I think happened and she was left scorned.
I think you pretty much summed the entire drama up in the last sentence.
The sad part is I personally like Shia most of my life, and it was sad to see him go through those rough periods for so long. It makes me so sad that when for once things are finally stabilizing for him, and he shows that chance to overcome his demons, this spawn tries to drag him back! So glad he seems to have grounded himself to not lash out, it demonstrates the true strength he has and is worth encouraging, while it show Olivia who the real antagonist is.
@@kate2create738 shia is not the brightest guy but he's very principled and you cannot buy that with money. even if it led him to get TDS and get trolled into oblivion and having a breakdown
Didn’t Shia purposely give women diseases?
@@lessimcdowell9897 uh.... what lol? Please explain that sentence seems crazy I have to know more.
Thank you for calling out the narcissistic situations in Hollywood. Much love! 💜
because we need someone to do it for us?
This video really spoke to me. Especially two bits: the part at the end from Peterson where he got enotional discussing lonesome, depressed belittle men who dont know what to do and the part with the author talking about the sex revolution.
To the first part, I remember seveal years ago, a story in the news of a freshman college student, rich but not particularly good looking who taped a 15 minute rant about his struggles in the dating world. He did this moments before he lashed out and killed multiple people. I remember watching that video and wishing I had been there to tell him that everything he thought about women was totally wrong, and to SHOW him this so that maybe he wouldnt have gone on this rampage. these are the people Peterson is targeting to help. THESE are the people Wilde is targeting with her incel comment. We keep beating people donw and than wondering why they get angry and lash out on the world.
To the second part, it just hot home so much. Im only 28 but ive always been mature for my age. I was the only person I knew who wantednto wait until I was married to have sex. I struggled for years trying to find a man with the same values. It was so difficult and finally I just gave in and slept with a person I liked but who really didnt want a future with me. Ive regretted it ever since but zi k ow ot wont get any easier. It disgusts me that every man that you date will expect you to sleep with him. So you might be genuinely trying to meet the love of your life but if each one doesnt work out you have to start from scratch. I wanted my body count to be "0" and now its already two because they leave almost immediately if you dont have sex with them. I agree with everything that author said and I would love to read her book because Im sick of walking alone with these "archaic" Ideals through life and feeling lonely and odd co.pared to everyone else. The west's obsession with sexual freedom I believe is the downfall of our society. Ots led to at least half of the social issues we all lement today.
I agree. The sex thing is incredibly destructive.
You know who was never mentioned once during the whole sorry Don't Worry Darling saga; the two male screenwriters who wrote the original script unpaid on spec before Olivia Wilde came onboard.
Good point but screenwriters are almost NEVER mentioned in filmmaking unless they are a celebrity in their own right. Plus, screenwriters only keep their credits if there are less than 3 writers working on the script since their original draft. If they’re not credited for the script, no one is going to credit them for writing it. That’s just how the industry works. I’m a writer, so this pains me to say, but no one cares about the writers in the film/tv industry.
@@sparrowwilson4514 Unpaid though? Really?
That adds a whole new layer to this. You think they wanted to write a story like this or are they riding a trend?
@@JoelKellenProductions That simply means they wrote it themselves on spec, i.e. without a production company attached, to sell to the market. They will have been paid when the script sold and probably again at other milestones, i.e. for other drafts and when the film went into production.
@@S3aChange oh okay
Harry ,bless his heart, is flat as a pancake. Olivia wilde, AH, Meghan Markle: these women do such harm to other women
Spot on.
Meghan Markle has that boy wrapped around her finger😄.
As a guy you just hate to see it ☹️
Her idea of a strong woman is a mouthy, narcissistic, patronising bully.
Kate Middleton is far better example of how great women can be.
And to men.
and my AXE
@@theaileenwilson i think that women who are abused have a historical difficult time being believed, getting proper support and help. I think that women had a disadvantage in many ways (f.i. workplace) and there have been great progress made. By women like these ladies there's a risk that we fall back into that old pattern of not believing women...(the paternising women are better than men wokeness is driving me insane as well)
Shia LaBeouf needs to be recognized towards the right thing that he had done. Wishing him nothing but goodness in his life.
Ab so fucking lutely.
Oh yes. I actually (as an ex fan of his work) appreciate that he has stayed quiet and calm after the accusations against him and has gone through the process admitting his faults. If he is found guilty, I hope he goes to jail or pays whatever he needs to.
I'm rooting for this man to recover from the sh*t of his past, just as I rooted for Britney Spears.
This is the best outcome for someone who was abused as a child. He was wrong, but he's trying to fix it.
I honestly don't understand why Olivia said such a lie, but my guess is that she knew that Shia was and is still in recovery and gave him a chance because she most likely had known him for years (and wanted to be the director that gave him a stellar comeback), and then when things didn't go the way she wanted, she changed the narrative to make herself look like a feminist sister who cares about women in a film about "women empowerment".
On top of that, the things she has said and done about her divorce are just... questionable, and makes me wonder if she is the one that has been having a problematic attitude all this time.
Idk, I just don't like her.
And the "miss flo" thing 😂😂😂 like wtf Olivia.
The sexual and psychological abuse of fka twigs is unforgivable
aged well
I feel so sad for JP. He has his own problems, but he's still trying so hard to help others. The man is a true hero. He may not fight demons or anything, but he is a man with high morals, and everyone can see that (although some will publically disagree/shame him), and therefore, inspires others to be better.
He actually did the best thing for his cause that he could, a thing that 1% of all the rest have done. He actually battled his own demons, using his own advice, and came out on top. After 3 years of pain.
His daughter would not agree with all these misguided fans, yet you all will blame her. because you all know him personally so well. no you all know the person hes selling and you all buy like a puzzle with missing pieces and claim you know what you dont know about whats missing that you can not see.
@@jessicajae7777while his daughter has said nothing of those.
It's a mask because he says thing that you don't want to admit because you are been called out.
He is very good at that calling out hypocrites like you.
When JP started crying at the end, it kinda Made me emotional and feel for men too...As a woman I already feel so strongly for men today , not knowing how to better themselves and get out of this endless pile of abuse, but man seeing a man stand for other men and getting (metaphorical) bricks thrown at him just break down is quite heartbreaking
@Krazynssky you have completely misunderstood my feelings but what can I expect lol. My point isnt to try and be so called psuedo 'feminist' and shit. My basic point is that for a person so seemingly immovable, you see a vulnerable side of theirs and you realise that they genuinely care for a particular community. Doesn't matter whether it's a man or woman or non binary or transgender. And the truth is people have been after his life and he's always had to put on a tough demeanour and take a strong stance, but here you see a different side of him realising that he genuinely cares and not cuz he's merely trying to win a debate. Hope that explains it for you and try and understand what a person is saying before attacking them with such comments and making assumptions about what they're saying. Thank you🙂
Translation of Shia message: "I have a wife and kid who I love and will not sleep with you to get this part, even if you do threaten to MeToo me. You will just have to use your 'directors privilege' on Harry Stiles instead" Wilde was a good friend of Weinstein and has added MeToo threats to Weinstein's method to get what she wants.
Finally, I was thinking the exact same thing. I truly believe Wilde wanted an affair with Shia and he wouldn't budge. He left her project and Olivia was scorned by his departure. Thinking to herself, "no one ever refuses me " if that's true, it makes you wonder how many men has she gone to bed during and prior to her time with Sudekis.
She does have those hunter psycopath eyes
@@Story2ScreenMovieReviewPodcast no, that is not what I thought at all. I thought Ahhhhhh, now I understand why she was thrown out of 'House'. I thought she was great and I liked her and wondered why she was dropped, I was told she wanted more money, I bet it was far more than that. I wonder if she tried it on with hugh??
@@oldwelshlady6584 really? She was dropped from House? She was married to some multi millionaire prince around that time. So she definitely wasnt starving for money 💰
He actually was pretty smart with the way he wrote it. Pretty good public showcase of what happened here. Interesting that most people in Hollywood both good and bad, have an uncanny ability to appeal to public image.
“I thought the marginalized were supposed to have a voice.”
Only if it fits the political narrative.
I’ve seen interviews from Harry about his music and his other movies. The clear difference in how passionate, proud and eloquently he talked about those projects, vs how he promoted DWD, says it all. You just know this man regretted his involvement, as did Chris, Gemma and Florence. The director with her behavior really drove not only the actors away but also a lot of fans or possible neutral movie goers. 🤷♀️
I realised what sort of woman Olivia Wilde was when she called Florence 'Miss Flo'. From then on it came out that she cut the only black woman's role in the film, and was difficult to work with, and left her husband for her subordinate on set (that's bad too), but you don't treat other women in a belittling way, especially not when they are working for you, and you have more power over them.
So it would have been okay if she'd cut a white woman's role, because being black entitles you to a role?🤔🙄
She's a bigot. 😆 I'm getting used to this wokie brown stuff. One true generalisation: they're all utter hypocrites. they call other people names, but it is them who are all that.
Shia just gained a massive amount of respect with that letter, thank you for showing me this. Man is clearly going through some stuff in the past few years but his progress is amazing.
Your content is great. Dr. Peterson has helped me, a 45 year old twice divorced father of a 6 year old girl - immensely. His words have given me the power and support to take my life into my own hands and own who I am and the situations I am in. He will go down as one of the absolute heroes of my life.
Damn, it took you 45 years to figure out common sense. I feel so bad for you.
@@NiRvAnA6890 feel better?
The irony w.r.t. JP is that his message is nearly the opposite of what the movie portrays. 🤔
They are fighting ghosts.
All they have are ghosts and strawmen.
Without building strawmen they couldn't win any fights.
Peterson getting emotional at the end for being the voice of a marginalised group of men is utterly heartbreaking. He continues in that interview talking how many young men take their lives for want of an encouraging word.
Young men do need to focus on being better but not for the sake of attracting a woman; young men need to focus on their own self worth, for themselves, rather than for the sake of being considered worthy by another.
Wish I knew how to make that happen. The best thing a man who has been helped by Peterson can do is be a Peterson to others.
Thanks for this video.
What we’re often forgetting is that when we were in our late teens and early 20s our raging hormones probably did half our thinking for us and we weren’t aware of it at the time. Nobody could tell me that either too. Stubborn as hell 😂.
Yeah getting your life together shouldn’t JUST be to get a girlfriend but it’s one of the most primary and basic needs after food/water, security and an inability to do that feels absolutely hopeless. I’ve been on both sides of that.
I strongly believe people don’t actually hate JP. It’s obvious if you read between the lines and observe how they forcefully and deliberately mischaracterise him.
They just have unidentified, unaddressed, unresolved issues of their own and are looking for a straw man to set ablaze.
Like angry pitchfork-wielding villagers.
I really like your last line, I'd love for that to be a coined term within the self help community or something, ' be a Peterson for others. '
@RoboTurkeyNinja I do think people hate Peterson. You're right about what people often "really" think, but they do genuinely hate him. It's not from any rational standpoint, but rather on an indoctrinated ideological basis.
It’s the thirteenth rule for life: when Dr. Peterson cries, we cry with him.
I keep thinking of all the faces he is seeing when he thinks of those disenfranchised young men. So many faces who are no longer with us. I know he lost someone too.
I think he cried because Olivia was mean about him in all honesty. I suspect the incel defence stuff was to try save face.
I love him! He's a breath of fresh air. The reason that i fell for my husband is because of his values and morals . My friends think that it is old school but it think it's been the necessary glue for our successful marriage.
I'm a 34 year old woman (who runs my own business and has no plans of marriage or children) who absolutely loves Jordan Peterson and gets a lot out of his lectures. I can listen to him discuss roles of men and woman etc without getting upset and defensive. I live my life the way that is right for ME personally, because only I know how to do that, but I can still agree with his views on roles in society as a whole. I just love to listen to him talk about anything, he truly has a great mind and his answers are always so well thought out and articulated. I particularly like the way he handles conflict or to a lesser degree a difference of opinion. He never people pleases and says EXACTLY what he thinks regardless of the outcome and that is so Nobel and shows true integrity (and its bloody hard to do) It's a blessing to be able to learn from people who know more about a topic than you do.
Any who call him misogynistic are simply repeating a narrative they heard and have not ever sat down and actually LISTENED to him which is a shame for them.
Lastly, the clip at the end - watch how Jordan's face changes when pierce Morgan (hypocrite) calls those men 'weirdo loners' ...THIS is exactly the thing that DOESNT HELP THEM and the emotion Jordan expresses after that comment makes it so clear that he is sick of the way people lack understanding and perpetuate these problems. When Jordan looked him dead in the eye and said 'SURE, WHY NOT' I couldn't have loved him more haha.
I absolutely love Jordan Peterson for his rawness and realness. These celebs talk about "authenticity" all of the time. Well, this is what it ACTUALLY looks like.
Most celebs wouldn’t recognize authenticity if it bit them in the face.
He lies about having a hair transplant. He ain’t that authentic.
@@BramptonHughes That made me laugh, but in all fairness I think it’s fair for people to keep their medical affairs private when they want to.
@@BramptonHughesif that’s the only thing he’s not transparent about then the dude still has a STELLAR record
@@YeeBoiiLuhsLearning if he lies about that it should make you wonder what else is bs, this is the only thing we can see now imagine other things he’s said
I find it pretty ironic that people are laughing at Jorden Peterson crying. Is that what we want from men right now? To be openly emotional? He's always represented, to me, a subversion of toxic masculinity. He's openly emotional, he's empathetic, hes humble, and a good leader. Those are all traits that I would say are positive to masculinity. It's so wild to me that people demonize him when every time I've listened to him I've been thankful he has such an audience with young men. Hes the only one who can turn incels from their self destructive behavior. Hes encouraging trying to be the best version of yourself you can be. Why is that controversial?
Maybe they're too cowardly to allow themselves to feel deeply and compassionately the way Jordan does.
Because without incels they have no one to feel superior to.
Pun intended...? Or not intended?
“Its so _wild_ to me that people demonize him...”
(Talking about Peterson and one of those people to demonize him was Olivia Wilde)
Ew can’t stand him he’s not even allowed on campuses . Why listen to an idiot ramble about trans people and rights . Bruh he’s trying to set us back YEARRSS
People have already memed Will Smith tearing up and Kyle Rittenhouse crying, and then these same people wonder why men don’t want to show these emotions.
Jordan Peterson’s approach towards helping men, urging them to consider their own agency and better themselves in order to change their own lives and outcomes seems to me, to be the most empathetic approach you can take without indulging their more selfish impulses. But people like Olivia Wilde don’t believe they deserve ANY empathy. And then when they mess up, will say things like “of course they messed up, they’re a man” without ever considering that something could’ve been done to prevent it
Yet she’s a power hungry cheating horndog. The irony.
The truth will always out. People show their true character. We’re tired of these fake, self proclaimed ‘hero’s’ with no character or integrity.
love your channel- it's great to see social/pop culture commentary through the lense of a reasonable human being capable of critical thinking.
Chris pine is like: "please no one drag me into those, i just wanted the money"
"The movie feels like a movie"
Chris: what the heck is he talking about
The movie sounds horrible, I just wish the person who wrote the script for this video pointed out that Peterson is a classic traditionalist and while he doesn’t exactly want women to be distributed by the state, he does want women distributed by their fathers and to never be financially independent
@@lessimcdowell9897 You weirdos will just keep moving the goalpost, won't you?
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 I did not change the goal post, if anyone changed the goal post it was whoever came up with the analogy of the state distributing women
Olivia wilde is insane.
I think this is true in the fullest sense - she has some mental issues that are preventing her from truly living a healthy and happy life. Worse, I think she has a lot of enablers who are happy to keep pushing her in an unhealthy direction even if it causes her to self-destruct.
And a cheater, and a gaslighter.
She's just another Hollywood degenerate
A fantastic video. I love the format you do for these essays and you've gained a long-term fan!
15:05 ish. Okay, she had me until she said that men carry no risk of being victims of domestic and sexual violence from women when every modern study that is done with any integrity has found this to be blatantly untrue. It's incredibly dangerous to promote that as accurate, just ask Travis Alexander.
I was in the most literal sense, involuntarily celibate.
I'd experienced sexual abuse by girls as a teenager, had a break down and resurgence of memories at 25, and suffered crippling genophobia; fear of sex.
In my case, I genuinely believed that if I so much as touched a woman, I'd be an abuser, I used to wear long trousers in summer, would only swim wearing a shirt and would flinch at any sign of affection.
I had a lot of female friends, but always assumed I! was the problem, that there was something intrinsically wrong with me.
Fortunately, all this changed thanks to meeting my lady in 2015 when I was 33, my lady who is now my wife, and will continue to be so as long as we both live. I genuinely struggle with the misandry of films like don't worry darling, and indeed the world generally. Misandry underpinned a lot of my abuse, and it feels like these days, people want to put me back in that box, something I'd not wish on anyone! Indeed up until I met my lady I principally thought of being male as a negative state myself.
So yeah, thanks for the video calling out the misandry and taking these people to task!
Also, I should definitely check out more of Jordan Peterson's work, since he's a name that keeps coming up.
i am glad ur doing better! 🍀
@@dakotadenali , Some times better than others I admit, but yes, better than things were ten years ago.
I won't lie though, that this era of "women good, men bad", is extremely difficult for myself, and other victims of female abusers, one reason why perspectives like Baggage claims are really great to here.
thanks for the concern.
@@darktenor4967Thank you for being so transparent. We need to hear these stories. Also, please know that many women do not agree with the current trend of villainizing men. We see the damage it is doing and we are actively trying to fight against it, each in our own ways. I think Mr Peterson’s work and his own life might help you to focus on what you think of yourself, what your wife thinks of you, as most important.
@@lindalumae , thanks for that. I'm very much aware that there are sane women out there (I'm married to one for a start), however I will admit misandry is not something I find easy to take.
That's why I mentioned my history here, not to gain sympathy or false validation, just to say, "yeah it happens!", and point out cracks in the currently rather monolithic "men bad, women good", rhetoric.
Would actually love to publish myself, though lack of publishing opportunities due to the current climate and need to parrot the accepted message make that nearly impossible.
@@darktenor4967 You should publish your story, if you want. Don’t give up on any of your dreams. Who knows what the future holds!
So before Inceldom became a mainstream word and their communities were broken up I used to browse incel threads out of curiosity (I'm happily married and not at all part of the community) and so I can tell you that Olivia Wilde has no idea who or what incels are. The "nice guy" meme doesn't represent the majority of them and they are not mostly white men. From my experience, the majority of them are actually brown, Asian, or black and a common talking point for them was that because whiteness is considered more attractive in western societies than other ethnicities white men have a leg up.
Most of these guys also are tremendously depressed, have very little self-worth and think of themselves as being hideous. Some of them recognize that these perceptions cement their inceldom as it corrodes their confidence and makes them more socially awkward than they already were. Some of them aren't even necessarily physically unattractive but they have abysmal social skills often due to being shy as young children which snowballed into them being social outcasts all their life. They don't have friends, they don't know how to interact with people and they are lonely.
Yes, for a lot of them this leads to resentment of the opposite sex as they feel they have never been given a chance but it's not limited to the opposite sex. The chad meme comes from the same community and though it's been twisted now to mean a guy that's awesome it originally referred to their bullies. Dumb attractive guys that are accepted by everyone, get all the girls and treated them like garbage for no reason. I'll point out here that "Chad" is a name from White American culture, so again you can see the resentment of white people.
Huh. I appreciate you sharing that insight, I guess I had also been misled in favor of the stereotype. I feel badly for them, but....well, I don't know. I'm a former model, but by society's standards I'm not worth much anymore, married and pregnant with my third child (an adopted embryo, for that matter). But honestly, if society disapproves, I'm probably getting something right lol but I digress.
I still have an instinct to keep my distance from those guys, sorry as I may feel for them. Because I've found that if I show them kindness or empathy, they just glom on and read way, WAY too far into what I'm putting out there. It's really unfortunate, because it also perpetuates the cycle. I have to be, at best, friendly but distant. Which is of course interpreted as I don't like their looks, or their lack or money, or whatever. Whereas it's actually just a self-preservation thing, based on past cringe experiences (I won't elaborate, it's just too bad is all).
Can this comment get pinned please, it’s so insightful and you actually brought back a memory of the original chad meme, Jesus. What’s also quite sad is that a lot of these “incels” are all average decent looking dudes who could actually look really good if they dress up a bit. By they are so filled with self loathing that it is impossible for them to even consider it. Also porn, since they can’t get the real thing porn becomes there outlet, but we all know what it does to our mental health, making men think there small when there actually average etc.
I am an educated woman who graduated top of my class with my Bachelor of Science degree in Accounting at 19 with my first corporate internship at 17, I am soooo much happier being a stay at home homeschooling mom. This idea that stay at home moms are all put upon little door mats is so bigoted.
Yes exactly.
Anti-natalist, anti-maternal self loathing anti-human mysoginist women
What a wild world we live in
Absolutely. And dripping with the resentment of women who made (and make) their living off of disparaging motherhood, femininity, and all men who disagree with them.
Who has this idea? Where are you getting this idea? I never had kids, I always worked, and I’ve never thought this about stay at home moms. I think people ought to do what is best for them and their families. There are opportunity costs for staying home and for not staying home (depending on what’s measured and the risks involved). I think it’s brave to stay at home given the risks. If I’d had kids, I’d likely have weighed the risks and stayed home.
@@IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS I have gotten treated this way by a lot of people, who were disappointed that I didn't continue in my Accounting career. The media often portrays stay at home moms as repressed women being forced into the kitchen by their overbearing husbands. If the shoe doesn't fit then don't wear it, but a lot of people act this way
Your point on female gaze 19:47 is absolutely true. Also brilliant choice of scene there as Mary and Matthew’s first meeting is a good visualisation of male and female gaze. Though you almost lost me because that’s Mary and Matthew❤
How Olivia Wilde treats her own relationships is proof she is the last person to listen to when it comes to having healthy relationships.
ANYONE Olivia Wilde thinks is doing something wrong is probably doing something right.
I love this. I met a woman who thought that I was confusing my son by expecting and teaching him to be empathetic but also strong both in moral fibre but also skills. I explained to her that I was raising him to be a man, and she just couldn't understand what I meant.
That blows my mind. Can I safely assume she was either single or not in a very healthy relationship?
@@Tyler_W I didn't ask to be honest. Probably too polite for my own good. She did have an opinion that it is son and husbands job to do the bins so presumably single.
@@emilypayton2070 my mother also thinks this way. in my opinion she should be single and i would advise my father to get a young girlfriend cause he deserves to be happy but he's a fool who thinks it is worth it to cater to someone who cannot even show gratitude
@@basteagui My friend, do not give up on your mother! Change happens slowly but surely. Your father is an amazing man, instead of giving up on her, u should talk to her.
We humans are one of the weaker species in this Earth yet we are the top of the food chain and its all due to us having the most advanced and developed means of communication and still we fail to use it effectively.
Doesn't matter what the circumstances are give her a hug and tell her you love her today
No good father or father figure probs. Just a guess
Olivia Wilde, or rather Olivia Jane Cockburn (her real name), went as far as giving away the family dog around the same time that she abandoned her husband and children .....The dog was a beautiful golden retriever that her children probably loved. She gave it to the dog- walker she employed to walk the dog, as she "didn't want to be responsible for the dog when she was spending the night at harry's place" Apparently the dog walker loved the dog so much, they jumped at the chance to take him. Isn't that heartbreaking? She is the most selfish kind of person there is
There's only one bitch 🐶 here and it ain't the dog.
AHAHAHAHHAAHHAAAH Cockburn? yeah i would be insane too
Ha! I had to Wikipedia that, but it is true, her name IS COCKBURN! Enough said! :D
@@angel_of_rust lol haha
She's really burning through 'em! 😂
26:13 I love how Jordans look sours as soon as Piers basically insults the people he is trying to help.
100%, Nick Rekieta mentioned this as well. In that Morgan interview, he almost scoffs at Wilde's mischaracterisation of him, but then his face drops when Morgan starts calling these young men "despicable weirdos" etc. Jordan really cares for them and their predicament, and all he gets in return is abuse and demonisation. He's not without his faults, but his teachings and career have helped millions of people through tough times. What have Wilde or Morgan ever done to help others?
I saw that too. That’s what made him emotional. We can’t help these young men if we just keep piling on to them. I was an unattractive and unwanted girl in my teens. A female incel you could say and I remember that pain of feeling unwanted. It just seems into your soul. But as a girl, I still had it better than many young men today.
Wow, this clip is very moving. Dr Peterson is so empathetic.
I mean, Piers Morgan is actually a vile, despicable weirdo, so he isn't exactly one to judge.
It was the same face I must have made too.. I didn't realize I would be crying right along side Jordan as he talked. I knew/know a few young guys, who were super lonely and had been encouraging them for years that things Do get better!
I've talked a few of them out of taking their own lives. (Thank God!!) And I'm happy to report that today, they are now in much happier life situations. I'm very proud of them all! 🙏👏
As always, baggage claim is nuanced well thought out and incredibly articulate, without trying to drive a wedge between people with differing opinions. Every video she releases, my opinion of her grows.
Your work does not disappoint! Thank you for another thoughtful video. I appreciated how you pinpointed the issues and successes of this film and all the hubbub surrounding it. I love your channel!
Im a very feminine female and i love Jordan Peterson, just saying...
Me too!
Same
he’s amazing!
Me, too!
Same :)
Such a relief and so refreshing to have rational reason from Baggage Claim in a mad world.
This. I haven’t seen virtually anyone on social media promoting actual thought over group politics.
@@lory3771 hey i suppose you could possibly enjoy a channel called patience xina- she also speaks with a lot of sense and reason
I am a middle aged woman, single mum of two, who loves Dr. Peterson tenderly, fiercely, and protectively. In other words, like family. His heart speaks to my heart. I’m so weary of seeing him hurt and lied about.
I'm an old woman (almost 60) and I feel exactly the same way.
When you said "Olivia Wilde decided to base the movie villain on Jordan Peterson" I literally had a laughing meltdown. Maybe in her next movie she can make the yellow teletubby the villain lmfao.
Thank you for this sane and balanced perspective, again. I love how you've shown Jordan Peterson how I see him: as a very reasonable, deeply caring person who brings a lot of sense, balance and value to the table to many. I also find him to be more real than most people, which is so clear from the last clip, it broke my heart and says everything about him and what a beautiful person he is. People are so adamant on putting others in a negative light (especially those who actually try to change the world in a positive way) and polarize by misrepresenting people and their views, it's really sad. And wanting men to be better but not allowing them to do better or redeem themselves or believe whatever positive there is to say about men is beyond baffling to me. So much more to say but I'll leave it at that ☺, great video! Monique
You had me at "insufferable Harry Styles".
Our culture feels like people are 'raging against the machine'... while being oblivious to the fact that they ARE the machine. Being a man, woman, or anything in between doesn't automatically absolve you from being an asshole. Peterson's work was never created for men, it was intended for everyone.. it just happens that men have gravitated towards it and which speaking for myself, has aided me in being a better human being to myself and those closest to me. I sincerely appreciate your work BC, please keep doing your thing! 🤙
Something I really hated was that after that Piers Morgan interview, the media with their clickbait articles made it sound like Olivia Wilde "defeated" and made Dr Peterson cry.
And those are the same people who say that men SHOULD cry! And they wonder why men don’t trust them.
Ugh. That’s depressing. The vitriol is nauseating!
@@ab-gail these are the same people who say the young incel male shooter/self deleting types need mental health help and then attack the only man doing outreach to that at-risk community.
@@ab-gail
That's because when gynocentric "venusians" say they want "martians" to be emotional what they really mean is that they want "martians" to be emotional like them (child minded/conditioned "venusians"). The main reason they want this is so a) they don't have to deal with the complexity of talking or trying to understand/empathize with someone who thinks differently than them and b) have a "martian" available for them to use as an emotional outlet for them to unload their unresolved emotional issues on without the fear of being judged or having the man point out any inconsistencies or logical fallacy (like "venusians" do with each other) and without having to show appreciation to the "martian for it" or without having to be expected to give/do something of equal value for that "martian" in return.
And they trash "martians" when they show emotions because seeing "martians" beeing screwed and be miserable in every way makes them feel special and important since it gives them a sense of superiority just for being of the other sx. This is because they think it is "justice" for the bad stuf other "venusias" went through in some other parts of history showing their lack of individuality and that their entire personality begins and ends with their gndr. They relish and enjoy "martians" suffering and going through problems to the point that they need to see them suffer and be ignored because it makes them feel even more superior for just being a "venusian" due to the narcissistic and above all predatory mentality they've been conditioned to have.
Thank you! The way you made this video with plenty of resources to make people see how wrong it was what happend here
Thank you so much for such a well-researched and wonderfully edited essay. A lot of effort went into this video, and it shows.
The Shia LaBeouf letter was amazing.
Jordan Peterson helped me get my life together. I’m a stay at home Mom who felt guilty and embarrassed of my decision to stay home for a long time. It was also hard because I like work too and I believed that I’d made a permanent decision in staying home. At one point I heard him describe that depressed people might be undereducated and I knew that was me. When I heard him talk about women regretting a high powered job with no room for children or women who’d made it to the top quitting to be with children I knew that was me too.
I got myself together and buckled down into being the best stay at home Mom I could be AND made plans to go back to school once they were old enough to be in school. It pumped passion back into my life. My family IS my priority and I do not desire I high powered job, just meaningful work. So I focused on the meaning of my children and planned for when they would no longer need as much of my attention and eventually leave home.
Starting grad school in January to study as a marriage and family counselor:) He’s pretty inspirational as a therapist too. I don’t know why we don’t discuss this as an option more though-being a mother young and having a career later. It’s the best way to have both for those who do. The only thing preventing it is societal expectations and refusal to take women seriously who have spent time at home-and liberal people can be some of the worst at that.
It's b/c Jordan Peterson has character, and Olivia Wilde has none. People with no character (aka, only live for themselves) have no frame of reference for someone who has it, so they dismiss and degrade them. Great analysis, as always. You elevate TH-cam with your well-thought-out content. Thank you!
I think the problem with the incels is NOT that they get rejected its that they never even talked to a single woman. And thats more of a modern human problem where people stop talking to each other. And i think hateful people like Olivia are not really helping incels gets braver to talk to women. Or men in general to become more confident to talk to women.
Thank you for talking about these important topics 💛,love your voice and style!
Damn Shias letter was so well written
I love Dr. Peterson. When Olivia Wilde tried to sound smart by saying he was the inspiration of the villain, I knew instantly she has never read or actually listened to what he has said. She sounded stupid and naive. And her behavior in life has shown her to be way too narcissistic to turn and look at herself as a possible problem. Everyone should read Dr. Peterson’s work and listen to what he suggests, but that would mean you have to judge yourself and not many people are willing to do that nowadays.
Yeh can’t believe she wasn’t laughed out of town! But being female and a femmo = free pass!.. 🤮🤦♂️
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Yeah exactly, you truly have to confront yourself with no lies to actually change for good
Olivia Wilde has "crazy eyes".
Duuude the eyes....THEY CRAZY
She has beautiful eyes! Go watch her in house, she was stunning! What has happened to her over the years?? I don't know!!
She has changed to the worst!!!!
Yes!!!! She has the crazy person expression in her eyes, like Meghan Markle and Amber Heard
Anyone noticed the similarities between Mrs wilde and Mrs Heard?
It's like all dishonest persons share the same stare.
This is a brilliantly thought out video! Great reasoning put into it and wonderfully done!!! Subscribed!
My biggest confusion is that if it’s a simulation, WHY did he need to force her into it? The kids were fake, why wouldn’t the wives be??
The other weirdness in the movie is that in the real world, the husband can't get a job, presumably because he's lazy... so he works ten times as hard to secretly care for himself and his wife while removing her from her job all in an enterprise that pays nothing at all. It just doesn't add up. Wilde needed him to be a loser, but to make the movie work he has to be a dedicated, meticulous, hard-working loser who is independently wealthy.
@@HerculesBallsInc yeah, maybe if the movie was about how he was stealing the money she worked for as a doctor and using it to run the simulation, maybe it would make more sense
Because in the philosophy of the director, she is the only thing within this societal structure that is of any true value. Women deserve to be released from all current social hierarchy, and men who participate in it deserve to be punished for it. The structure of society is completely empty in her eyes.
This behind the scenes story was weird. I like Jordan P. Hollywood really is HollyWEIRD and it begins more and more OBVIOUS.
As a woman, Who is not opressed or a victim, Jordan B Peterson has said NOTHING that I think is sexist or whatever. He has changed my life. I was an addict for twelve years and I was sure I could never accomplish what I dreamt of. I got sober and still just lived at my moms house and still just lived in my childhood room because that was who I was. Only after I listened to JBP did I realize what I was doing wrong. only after I started listening to him did I realize I was a woman. I wasn’t a victim. I didn’t want to be a man. He is the true feminist. I fucking love him and shh he is my celebrity crush dont tell anyone. And yeah, wilde is NOT familiar with his work. As someone who is, it is SO OBVIOUS. The fact people take him out of context makes me so sad. I would be so happy to have this man as my psychologist
I’m glad you’re not oppressed or a victim! That’s great. Most people don’t choose oppression or victimisation, they are oppressed and victimised!
As a woman who has been oppressed and victimised, I hear A LOT of sexist things from JP. Some of them are objectively sexist and whether or not you are offended does not stop them from being sexist.
@@fluffypineapple790 name them
@@VigaCossel name what? I made so many points here.
Isn’t rule 10 precise speech?
@@fluffypineapple790 well, actually, I have been raped multiple times and used by men for the ten years I was an alcoholic , but okay…. My father was a horrible alcoholic and I probably only know about three good people, be it men or women, in my life.
You are choosing to be a victim. You can also choose to be not offended by other peoples thoughts. Of COURSE I dont agree with EVERYTHING he says. I am not him. I dont agree with everything anyone says. Youll figure it out one day hopefully.
@@VigaCossel okay I figured it out.
There’s what he said about women and makeup and the workplace which was based on pretty unreliable ‘evolutionary psychology’.
He often suggests that there is a specific way to behave based on gender/sex
I saw you on a Open Bar of Critical Drinker and loved your insight. I have subscribed. Hope you have great day.
I can't like this enough. Great synopsis of the movie and the drama around it. Absolutely insane and I agree with you 100%
Leaving a comment for the algorithm, and out of appreciation for the unique angle you chose on this. I’m so sick of the gossip, and the ongoing slander and deliberate bad-faith misrepresentation Dr Peterson is being subjected to
Thank you!!
Shia LaBeouf is such a strong man. This guy went through shit and everyone let him down. Only his wife was there and even she wasn't there from the beginning. The shit this guy has to go through is just unbelievable. It says a lot about our state of society when top men like Shia LaBeouf or Jonny Depp have to deal with this shit. Now imagine this for the average guy, that don't have the money or power to fight back. Typically, they just end their life.
/e Even though to mention he did some shit before that. So, it's not like he is innocent himself.
Shia is an abuser
@@PhilippBlum but it should be mentioned in a comment when talking about what he had to go through and what he had to deal with. Because unlike Johnny, Shia was not wrongly accused and scrutinised, he did that and admitted to it. He doesn't have to be the perfect innocent victim to be able to feel sympathy for him.
Check out the actors on actors shia and kristen stewart it's such an EPIC watch. Theres one part where hes talking about process and how he digs into real pain for scenes bc hes not acting school taught....it's a very dope exchange.
When speaking of people like Shia I can't help but think about a little saying about a suit of armor... if you were to choose someone to defend your life, would you choose a man wearing some shinny, undented armor, or a man wearing some old, dented, scarred armor that carries the tales of several battles, yet is still alive and willing to don said armor? I would choose the one with the dented armor, he has experienced battle, fought foes, learned lessons that the clean armored man can only imagine... the "Knight In Shinning Armor" is simply untested metal.
Everyone in life meets their breaking point at some time or another. For some, it is something not as significant as others might encounter, however, is capable of breaking them just the same. Some people overcome this tragedy, either with cash, social standing, or some other blessing. The rest of us break, totally and completely. The ones that break and are able to put themselves back together, better yet, who are able to improve from their failure and turn it into something to grow from, those are the ones that history rights about, and the names that will be spoken by our kind far after they leave this life. I hope to see Shia rise...
@@yellowhouse4911 So you have to list off all his “sins” before we can show him any sympathy?
Olivia Wilde, Amber Heard and Meghan Markle… I’m seeing a pattern with these three.
And by the way, excellent analysis!
This movie is a perfect example of how modern women see men. Also the only bubble not examined is that of a modern woman. This is exactly what I would expect a Hollywood 50 year old woman producer to make
I find it so ironic how she can make this argument about challenging systems that benefit men, when women not only benefit from being women in virtually every aspect of society but also in the same breath attacking men for being lonely/sexless, despite very clear and obvious disadvantages in those very systems. The fact that women can so casually and openly vilify men for their loneliness/sexlessness, or make insane claim like "incels believe they are entitled to sex" without any major backlash addressing her misandry, is in of itself a pretty telling of a massive privilege.
These constant attacks on incels, starting with this absolute refusal to even acknowledge that there could social systems disadvantaging men, is incredibly ignorant, malicious and bigoted. Even this idea that lonely men are just lonely because they have "nothing to offer", being so casually thrown around as if this could ever be said about a woman without it causing major backlash, is clearly indicative of a greater systematic problem.
There are so many great points made in this commentary that made me think a little bit deeper. 👍 Thank you, Baggage Claim, for all the hours you must've labored to produce this thought-provoking body of work. 👍
It wouldn't surprise me if Olivia Wilde didn't believe a single word of what she is saying. She thinks this will sell, so she says it.
I used to think she was a radical feminist of the 'men are useless and should be turned into slaves' type, but seeing how she treats other women I have come to believe that she's just a psychopath who uses everyone as tools for self-gratification.
Thanks for making this video! It really angered me that Wilde would attack someone who’s done nothing but help those who need it. Hollywood hates to hear it but these men are marginalized and need to be reached. I pray things get better for them.
Humans are just like animals, the males attract the females, marriage and the financial dependence on men has stopped natural selection from taking place for millennia and Ronald Reagan is really the one to blame for feminism in America, before his economic policies, feminists were a minority of a sex that was a minority of a counter culture movement that was a minority of generations among many generations
The men who abandon and abuse their wives and kids? Lmao
Incels are funny af
@@selrox879 Women can also abandon their partners and kids? Your point?
Pigs like u on the internet are funny af
@@selrox879 how are incels related to men who "abandon and abuse" their family.
Also, people who "abuse" tend not to "abandon" because they prefer to keep their pliant victims close at hand. Also, abusers are NOT incels because abusers tend very much to be NOT celibate.
@@Anna_Key thank you so much for correcting whoever made that comparison. Incel is just a slur meant to hurt men now. Olivia completely misrepresented what it actually is in her little explanation and it's so funny how wildly inaccurate she was about something she says she has deep feelings about.
Olivia chucked away her vowels and splintered her young family for a fling with a British pop star. No wonder she'd despise Jordan Peterson's message about celebrating monogamy. Last I saw, Harry Styles was making out with Emily Ratajkowski so I hope Olivia's direspect for her vowels was worth it.
Dang, this was so good! Your production value is stellar. ❤❤❤
Whoever calls Jordan Peterson that…
Man has been studying Psychology his whole life.
I guess real sad feminists.
And has spent thousands of hours over decades as a clinician listening first hand to people's darkest fears and experiences.
That argument doesn't mean anything though. You can say true things without having studied anything and you can preach nonsense after studying for decades. I'm not saying that Peterson is a bad guy I'm saying your argument doesn't proofe anything.
That clip at the end… girl you trying to make us cry!? 😅😭
Seeing JP cry was truly heartbreaking.
26:49 Let's also not forget that Wilde's ilk found Dr. Peterson's empathetic response to be somewhat humorous, as if having the temerity to be concerned for the welfare of people was something to be ashamed of.
Our teen son introduced us to JP. Totally on board and thankful he has such good guidance along side us.
EXCELLENT VIDEO. It´s very clear you devoted a significant amount of time to collecting info, building an eloquent storyline and producing it. Congrats.
Thank you so much!
I swear she would have done a better job directing and promoting DWD than the director
You’re doing an amazing job 😮
This video managed to:
1- Made me lose any shred of respect for Olivia Wilde as a person.
2- Feel sorry for Shia Leboeuf. Being a father does change a man’s perspective.
3- Feel empathy towards Jordan Peterson. I really disliked him because of his views on Religion and his hypocrisy of encouraging positive personal change while discouraging collective social change. But now I think that I’ve been too dismissive, I’ll give him a chance.
Keep up the good work Baggage
I second this reply and thank the author. Baggage Claim (love this title btw) does a great job showing a brighter side of JP with her examples of helping the men that need it the most (he has helped me through my journey). It is difficult not to dismiss a person after being confused & discouraged by his religion analysis. I understand that you can't please everyone, but examples like JP show us how truly difficult it is to help people in a meaningful way. I will give him a chance too, Ahmad, thank you.
I didn't agree with everything he said in his book but I liked it, too.
I think one of the only problems I have is,like you said, that he emphasizes how to make the current system work for you (capitalism, hierarchies, traditionalism, etc.) but that doesn't acknowledge how the current system victimizes entire sections of our communities and the many reasons there needs to be changes.
He isn't criticizing the systems in place, but the people who can't or won't play by it's many unfair rules.
It makes me sad to see how angry he's become. I saw his teaching videos years ago and I really liked his practical approach. He was heartfelt. Was actually relieved to see these recent clips that sound like his old self. For a while he was bitter.
Hey girl! Love your content, its amazing!
Came across your channel today and my god you do such brillaint analysis of situations that you earned a subscriber in me(not that it matters). I just had one question as to why did you name your channel as "Baggage Claim"?
I am a 32 yo w and Mr. Peterson have helped me tremendously. I was raised in chaos and could only find "weak" suitors. I have bettered myself and found self respect and now I no longer spread my legs to anyone who pays me a compliment. I do feel for the weak still, but it's not my job to fix them. I can have compassion and love without getting sucked into chaos again. I can be competent without sabotaging myself. I can keep a clean house and find joy in making it beautiful around me. I feel I have tapped more into my femininity listening to him. Even though I find myself more assertive, it's like I have become softer at the same time. I actually like who I am. I have become more stable. I used to fly off the handle and become dysregulated by someone looking at me funny. Now they can throw insults at me and accuse me of things I know are wrong and I don't have to win them over. They can think what they like. I know who I am and just remove myself if they won't listen and can't even be constructive. I really love this man. I have never met him and probably never will, but my love for him and his whole family is moving me to tears just writing about it. I pray for them regularly.