New HK USC .45 Carbine
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H&K is importing the USC again. We take a look at the new Heckler & Koch USC carbine in .45 ACP. Back in 2000 we saw the original H&K USC hit the US market but the guns were made in gray. Now the HK USC is available in black thus making the conversion to a HK UMP much easier. How reliable is the new HSC? Well, we find out in this segment.
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You can call our best in industry customer service and we will get you a new front sight, for free, like we would do for any customer, even if it was someone else breaking it. We brought in less than 500 USCs, the odds that one of them was missed durring inspection is almost zero, but maybe we did. Also, we would quickly replace any mag with issues, something rare, but not unheard of. Also, we have zero affiliation with HKParts and cannot speak to the quality of parts that they make. Freedom Munitions ammo is not of good quality, especially in the last 18 months, the ejection pattern should be very consistent, like it is on all our firearms. The reason the UMP was designed was because of law enforcement agencies requesting a modern polymer 45 design. All of our weapons are designed because of military or law enforcement requests. Our quality is not slipping, has never slipped, and will not slip, in any way. Tom Bostic is the man.
Heckler & Koch 😂😂😂😂 sure
Mmmm cracked plastic. Too many handouts from merkel to your new “countrymen” had to cut costs. This gun is junk and is ugly as sin. Keep on sliding; sig is getting lonely at the bottom.
Heckler & Koch i realize this is likely just a marketing account but magazines can be really finicky, are you sure that no bad batches have ever gone through? having worked NDE and worked along side QA, I wouldnt say QA is ever 100% reliable, and neither would most QA technicians unless procedure demanded testing of each magazine rather than a batch sampling method.
Sheldon Robertson lol it is pretty Hilarious
Sheldon Robertson they have what looks like HK marketing videos? more elaborate than the average troll
It's an H&K so you have to load the rounds backwards into the magazine.
Arne Asada I wish I could up vote this comment more than once
Haha nice catch!
underrated
Well played.
😂😂😂
I'm glad to see your Marine training is still going strong Tim, you managed to break that gun without even touching it.
I think it's pregnant now too...
Military Arms Channel
Well at least you didn't try to eat it.
Zed Hiro it's not made of crayons, sooo....... lmao
It looked like certain areas were starting to itch too
HAHAHA!
Just bought a new USC in 2024. Came in a fancy range bag, with the red HK multi tool, a lock, paper manual, and two 10rd magazines.
So far it's been a gem, even bought another 5 factory magazines, all have been trouble free.
I replaced the front sight assy with the XS Sights big dot.
Highly recommended!
Ive owned one for a while now. Had the same magazine issues but easy remedy was to disassemble the magazines and stretch the spring slightly. No issues after that. No last round bolt hold open issues. My USC was purchased back in 2008. Great quality in my experience. I SBR'd mine.
in 2040, "Hi my name is Ian, and on this episode of long forgotten weapons in the HK .45, also know as the brick to the 5th power". Why so big?
I had a terrible day and needed a laugh. Thank you Head Knuckle, your comment made me laugh and was quite original too. I'm sure you've had those kind of days. You wake up on the wrong side of the bed and the remainder of the day is just crappy. Again thanks. and no I'm not trolling.
It's so big because it's a blowback, not roller locking bolt.
Brian 88 All the more reason to be much smaller. That thing looks like it's 8 inches tall. Just dumb.
B&T is more H&K than H&K (in terms of coolness and quality). Sorry H&K.
Agreed. It's probably why B&T makes parts for them, or has in the past.
Drift King not so. I bought an APC 45 and it was a complete lemon. They exchanged it and sent me a new APC 45 and that too was a complete lemon. I started a thread about it on m4carbine.net. I can tell you that B&T has a good reputation for quality but if you have a problem good luck.
Ariel Danziger B&T is actually more well established here in Canada than in the US (their office in Saskatchewan has been around for a lot longer than their office in Florida). We have also had their products since the late 2000s. Probably because they don't have to worry about 922r compliance. Sorry about your bad experience.
Drift King , Agree, Agree.
Military Arms Channel I'd definitely buy a B&T over an HK based on many of your videos and what I've seen elsewhere
Thank you for being completely honest and open with us, and producing a video that does not promote how wonderful everything is. I was just looking at this carbine, and was in the process of purchasing this firearm. You saved me 1400 dollars! Inspections do not work; this is a quality mindset from 1980s. Perhaps H&K should be looking for a Quality Director that is familiar with lean manufacturing and Six Sigma Quality processes than looking to bring in more inspections. I doubt that it would be rare to find anyone in their customer service department that knows what Kaizen means.
That is why copper custom is my preferred vendor of choice. I will ask and get straight talk on what they believe to be the best in class of what ever type of firearm I am looking to purchase. You guys rock, BTW, did I mention that that you saved me 1400 dollars. 😀
It was made the day after Germany was eliminated from the world cup.
I'll take the Highpoint 995 over the H&K any day. $1400 for a gun without any accessory mounting options, non threaded Barrel, no optics mounts, 10rd Mags, and doesn't even work? No way.
GunsWithGage don't you mean you'll take four Highpoint 995 Carbines, 10 mags for each, and a 1000rds of 45ACP 230 grain ball ammo for that $1400? LOL!!
1968CudaGuy Haha!!! Yup sounds like a better deal. The HK sounds like hollow plastic . I understand the historical appeal though.
I'd rather have the Beretta version. Half the price, or it was.
GunsWithGage, I hear ya. Heck my sub2000 runs better than the HK. I even got 1400 FPS out of reloaded 9mm 115 gr. Ball. (.357 mag velocity)
And I can down load 147 gr to subsonic levels to cycle through a suppressor, it's stupid quiet.
Don't forget it's ugly asf.
Maybe they should look to hipoint on how to do plastic lol
Matt Jones if you’d of said that a couple years ago I would of laughed but now I think you’re damn right
Matt Jones good shit
nazo333 And then theres always the guy who thinks outside the box.
The fucking 995 ts stock is a tank.
Saw a guy at a full auto shoot demonstrate to an old timer how tough it is who was skeptical of a $250 used 9mm rifle. He literally picked it up and slammed it as hard as he could. It cracked the mag carrier off that just clips on but the rest was still functional and in tact. The old man bought one right then.
Definitely! Germans never were good with plastics. Look at the interior of any 1990's-early 2000's BMW.
MAC, as a long time Nevada resident (since 1974); but a Valparaiso, Indiana, native, it is great to see you shooting in the middle of the Soybean’s fields, Gnats included! Brings back memories!
I really wanted one of these since I first remember seeing them in the early 2000's. Not anymore. Thanks for the video!
I love your honest and down to earth reviews! Keep-up the good work👍
Thank you.
for that kind of money i would rather have a kriss vector in 10mm
David Dickinson yea a better pick
I didn't know the kriss vector had a 10mm version. That's super cool and useful for home defense.
Vasily_Zaytsev Mac has a video of the kriss 10mm
zone 6 alpha wolf ty I already saw one.
Check my Vector out!
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One thing i do like about your videos .. you hold these gun companies to a standard
I’m one of the very few. How can I do it? Because I’m not paid by manufacturers or importers. I am viewer funded by my Patreons. I’m not beholden to the industry, I’m a consumer advocate because my Patreons make it so I don’t need sponsorships, affiliate programs and freebies. That’s why I show the good and more importantly the bad of products. It pisses the manufacturers off because I’m not for sale, and Lord knows they have tried to buy me off more than once. I posted an example of a recent attempt to my Patreons.
We need more people like you. Maybe if more people didn't get sponsored by these manufactures they would improve in quality.
That gun better come with a decent german callgirl for 1400 dollars.
Have you contacted H&K yet to see if they will make it right?
Looks like H&K is charging $1,000 too much.
I heard their service is pretty good
Banshee365 HAHAHAHAHA.
Wow fanboy much?
Found a fanboy.
I'm sure he is just frustrated, wouldn't you be to if you notice something broken when you finally take it out. No reason to go all fan boy bitch on him.
Good coverage Mac.
Thanks for the video. Another great review of a Terrific Father’s Day present, even with the issues.
for the low, low price of $1400 you get the privilege of spending an additional $1000+ to convert it into a proper ump
Best first impression for a gun I've ever seen.
Thank you.
Thanks for the video. I was seriously considering this firearm. Emphasis on was.
That was a great video! No doubt about it. What i would have really liked to see would have been radaring a 45 pistol after you did the ump/usc and also would have liked to see how 185gr+p did out of the 16" barrel. Hope to hear some updates on this gun as time goes on and more videos like this
I'd rather see H&K bring back a version of the G36, if they could even import one that works
Probably cost $5,000
Why? You can get a US built clone which is at least on par if not better
@@TheAlexagius name?
@@yunakobravo70 Tommybuilt T36 Pistol
I always get a kick out of the posters at HKPRO. One guy is an expert on the backstop (I had to shoot that direction FOR safety reasons until we moved the berm), there’s a great comment about me leaving brass in a farm field (we pick up our empties), a couple are completely loosing their minds because I had a problem with the magazines. Then my favorite dingbat post, one fanboy said HK likely didn't pay me enough money so I'm getting even with them. 😂😂😂You can't make this stuff up!
They’re dreaming up all sorts of hysterical scenarios, things like it was my dealers fault for the issues. My dealer received two brand new guns as they’re new products and I grabbed one. They didn’t sell it to someone else, then took it back with defective mags, then resold it to me. I mean, where do they get these hysterical notions? LOL The OP is calling it a “hit piece” as if everything is fabricated, which sets the whole tone for the rambling conspiracy theories that follow.
The only thing worse than a Glock fanboy is a HK fanboy. If you have a legit problem with a HK firearm, the fanboys call you an idiot and blame everyone and everything but HK for the problems. There’s some screen shot worthy stupidity over there. If you want a good chuckle, follow the link:
www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-talk/470816-yet-another-hk-hit-piece-mac-youtube.html
I will say there are a handful of rational posters over there speaking the truth to the riled up, frothing at the mouth fanboys, but they're being ignored. A number of them said, "If I got a new $1400 gun and the mags didn't work or the sight was broken I wouldn't be happy either." Such a rational post doesn't fair well in a gaggle of fanboys.
Oh, an update! My local gun shop where I bought it (not Copper) hooked me up with a replacement front sight. Now all I need to do is resolve the 10 round magazine issue which TommyBuilt can do for me. I just wish I could get original HK 9mm parts to make one a 9mm. I guess I’ll leave one as a 16” gun and make the other a SBR.
So the members complaining about my experience with their pet brand,and who threw complete hissy-fits, finally got the thread locked because "monetized channels aren't allowed to promote on HKPRO." I wasn't "promoting" myself, I was responding to the lies being told about me.
Even the moderator struggles with his maturity it seems. He went so far as to say that the lies told about me by board members was actually me creating controversy for views, before he locked the thread and thus blocking me from responding to his sophomoric claim.
It seems the forums have turned into a bunch of keyboard commandos and trolls who pat each other on the back for trolling legitimate content creators and internet users. What's disconcerting is that often times these are grown men acting like 8th graders. Oh heck, I shouldn't say that because it's insulting to 8th graders who have more developed soft skills.
There's a reason I say off the forums, and the "HKPRO's" just reaffirmed why. You have to have an IQ roughly that of your own shoe size and blindly worship a product/brand to be in the "in" crowd.
HI Mac, just an FYI. The German Police in Berlin just concluded that the VP9 is not suitable for German Law Inforcment. Not sure if you had heard. Best regards from Germany
Do you have a link to this info. Couldn’t find any evidence of this.
only in german
I came to that conclusion years ago and I also know the VP9 has not passed several trials here in the US too. It's a neat range gun but it's not a worthy duty pistol. HK makes some great duty pistols though and damn, I wish they would bring back the P7's!
You're handling these f-ups much better than I would......for that money!
Awesome video👍👍👍.Hope H&K heard your voice?Carry on the good work.God Bless and Protects you all🙏🙏.
Repeal the NFA
Remington, Sig, and now H&K OF ALL COMPANIES? I really hope this is just a fluke. MAC is right about this just being depressing...
SIG too? I didn't hear about anything...
Christopher John Taylor SIG P365 has reliability issues.
Wow, that's messed up. Thanks for the info Drift!
P320 and P365. And its not so much that they had major flaws, as they can be fixed, it's Sig's denials and lack of response in dealing with them until forced to.
I wish S&W would make a subgun style rifle and pistol... everything I have ever gotten from smith or its sister company's has always been top notch quality.
"what a spectacular malfunction" I don't know why but that made me laugh so hard 😂😂
I saw this gun at my LGS and WAS considering buying it. Glad I waited, never mind.
Wow this gun is so depressing. Can't understand how HK let this gun out of the design room let alone the factory.
Thank you for your HONEST reviews. There are enough product whores out there.
I don't accept money from manufacturers or importers and Lord knows they try to buy me off. That's why the vast majority of them totally ignore me, because I'm going to show every issue I have and not candy coat stuff. I can do that because of my Patreons. I don't need affiliate programs where I tell you something is great and give you a code that makes me 10% off the sale. I don't need sponsorship money. I owe one group of people my brutally honest opinion, my Patreons. I'm only accountable to them because they support us. That makes us somewhat unique on GunTube.
Damn straight!
I know someone who would give this "Two thumbs way up"...
Cough TFB cough
Rev exactly TFB hyped up ptr 9ct mp5 clone and mine can't get through 3 mags without some kind of stoppage.
I've always wanted one of those... but I think I'm going to change my mind on it now. Thanks for the heads up.
I have wanted one for years, almost bought it MANY times with the dream of converting it to a UMP CLONE like yours.
After watching this vid that desire has faded greatly.
I’m definitely an HK fan and own several. Hope HK learns a lesson from this one. Doesn’t take long for people to catch on to sub quality products. Then it will be too late!
Sig has been getting away with beta testing their products on the public for about a decade now. It can take a generation of a company pumping out low quality goods that formerly had a good reputation for quality before people finally catch on... assuming they ever do.
Im glad I didnt jump and buy one immediately myself when they announced this latest run, I expected a lot more honestly especially if I'm spending 1400 or more on a PCC in 45. At this rate I'd rather buy a Marlin Camp in 45 for much less.
Sorry to hear about the front sight, hope you had a good 4th. 🎆👍
I had Tom my built do a build on a omega Gideon receiver in 45. Runs like a champ. Can’t wait to get my g36c build from him too
Hey HK it isn't the 90's anymore. Bring a braced pistol version of the UMP to market with a threaded barrel and double stacked magazines for around $1200 and it would print money with all of the people who would buy it just because of the videogames it is in. Also bring a G36 variant without the silly SL8 features to market and we will love you again.
ajttambo There is a G36 variant. It’s called the T36 from Tommybuilt and is nearly identical
HK: "everyone wants a civilian variant of the UMP45, let's make an ugly version of it in rifle form, price it above competitor Pistol PDW cost."
HK- zero self-awareness
Mac, you make me really love my Scorpion EVO with these B&T, and Hk fail vids.
“What a spectacular malfunction!” - this is why Tim is the man.
For $1400 I would go with the CMMG guard in 45acp.
Curious how you’re liking this carbine today...I just ordered.
Btw, you gained about 20% velocity with that 16” barrel. 230 gr .45acp from standard length pistol barrel is ~850fps
like your content man, wish you well.
Both of mine came with a nice tool set and sling. The 20 rd pro mags do take a little fitting, but run good.
I was never a fan of these plastic guns. Funny, my HK94, HK93, and HK91 don't have these problems and are the most reliable guns that I own. HK needs to bring back the classic, tried and true legacy roller guns! It was a good start with the SP5k, but we now need the rifles.
The G94 and G93 are two of my favorite rifles, as well as the FNH-FNC is another excellent rifle. Man the early to mid 1980's was a good time for purchasing firearms. Especially from over-seas manufacturers.
G3's are great except I hate how the bolt doesn't lock on the last round.
If your an AK guy like me it doesn't really matter or at times it can be quite or really useful.
they are making the sp5k somehow. the problem with those for me is the cost and no threading for suppressors. that killed the UMP and the sp5k who wants to buy a new barrel or customise a new gun just to get it the way it should be anyways.
I dont know if they are making a straight up SP5, but they are making a k configuration and it does not have a trilug or threaded muzzle. You have to buy an aftermarket barrel which are $200 I believe and the B&T version is $400 if I'm not mistaken. Still a great gun, I only wish it had a bolt hold open (which I know the originals didn't) and have the paddle release, which you can have installed but more money for a $2000 firearm
Did you ever do ballistic testing on that Italian made black powder rifle?
I just purchased a USC without any issues with the firearm and the magazines. Not only that, it came with a nice gun bag with the HK logo (Made in China), lots of pockets a HK decal, Instruction manual and 2 good magazines but no take down tool. The magazines never had a problem with the follower or spring and I had zero malfunctions. I'd like to think that Mac's video made HK aware of their product issues and addressed them.....
This has always been my favorite sub machine gun
Isn't typical velocity for a 45ACP in a 5" barrel around 850fps? So 1025fps out of a 16" is actually a moderate increase, though not enough to cancel out the benefits of an SBR.
All the ball I have is around 950+fps
I get 980 fps. Out of 16" barrel using blazer ammo
You could easily get the same boost in velocity with like an 8" barrel.
I'd expect better gains from a .45 Super load, hypothetically.
I'm with Hermit on this one, 800 to 850 fps is what a .45acp usually shoots out of a 5 inch barrel. Look up "45acp Barrel velocity test ... 3in. vs 5in. (retest)" and you can see that just 2 inches throws that .45acp off by 60 fps.
Am I the only one day dreaming about a 10mm cz scorpion
Even better a CZ evo in 50AE.
And 10mm SP01
imparak that would be awesome
I love the 10mm and glad it's starting to come back into fashion and more platforms are using it
How about something more fun...45acp
The UMP is a piece of history!? You're really embellishing it there, MAC...
Hey MAC, love when you show case a classic. I know you don't have any videos on the Ruger Mini 14. That is one rifle we can effortlessly enjoy up here in Canuckistan. Please pull one or two out of the vault for a video
I don’t own one! I haven’t liked them since I was a kid. I dont care much for the M14 either but I have several because of their military background. I should grab a Mini one day.
I will say that I am surprised but not at all in a bad way. I feel as if the AR15 renders the Mini 14 useless but the Mini 14 just seems like an elegant rifle.
Poor HK fanboys... wait, I am a HK fanboy! All jokes aside, it’s sad that custom gun builders are the only way to guarantee quality anymore.
15:00 Notice all the gnats flying around, that's because this gun is a peace of shit.
Hahahahaha cold as ice.
You have convinced me. I will not be looking at one of these no how no way!
ive been interested in those for a while but the beginning of the video didn’t put my concerns to rest
HK would have the EVO3 20 years ago had they sold semi-auto UMP carbine or in "pistol form" in 9mm. Instead, we got the USC.
If you think that HK would sell a UMP style pistol for ~$800 and mags for around $20; you are high.
Also pistol versions of rifles/SMGs weren't as good back then since arm braces weren't a thing.
oh sure, I can see them sell those for $800... back in 1990s, which would be equal to almost ~$1400 now. HK never changes.
Well looking at the positives the gun is New Zealand legal.
You doing ok? Seem a little grumpier than the first videos I watched years ago. Take it from me, take a snack to work 😂
MAC, great video as always. Disappointing to hear about HK qc. I had 2 USC’s. Both were excellent shooters. Kept one original and UMP’d the other and put a EOTech on it. Accurate and no failures. Fun to shoot. (Sadly, got stolen.) Hope you get it sorted!
TommyBuilt will fix it up for me.
Should have bought a Ruger RPR, would have been less expensive and not broken from the factory
*Jordan Hadlich* How can you even compare a Bolt action precision rifle to a pistol caliber carbine...? I get that this H&K painfully sucks but, c'mon...
Yeah because a RPR would be a great replacement for a semiautomatic pistol caliber Carbine...
Skink maybe he ment PCC but had a stroke while writing the comment?
No I ment the RPR, manly because I would like to see Tim do a video on one. For the money the HK was a let down. I do think the Ruger PCC is a better buy for the money, hopefully Ruger puts one out in 10mm
Jordan Hadlich the PCC is a really nice rifle. I do wish the stock was a bit less traditional, but it does make the 16in barrel look normal. Mine has been very reliable. I'm hoping they produce caliber conversations for it. Would be sweet in .45 and I'm waiting on my stamp for a .45 can atm.
HK has great customer service. HK will take care of that.
that is one thing they have, but at the price point, should that really be a considetation?
Had the original version and I loved it very reliable.
I got mine couple months ago, about 700rds so far and not a single malfuction with those single stack mags or the double stack ones (was converted to "ump")
Is a cool little gun fun to shoot, specially once is converted to the ump lower and stock the ergonomics are way better.
I thought that was Eric from IV8888 in the thumbnail!
So upsetting seeing these legendary gun manufacturers go to crap and cut corners
Seems a nice quiet gun, hope you get it sorted.
I getting the cmmg banshee !!! thanks for the video!!!
You are being to nice to hk. Not everyone has a tommy to sort out their guns 😁
Or about $2,000 for an average .45 acp carbine when all is said and done.
Fee_ Lo Tommy is sitting at his computer laughing.
Gaspard129 well, $2,000 for effectively a UMP isn't bad for a collector, either an H&K collector or a subgun collector, but that's about it. A KRISS Vector is only around $1,600 after tax stamp and stock, and is better than the UMP imo, even though in not a big fan of it. I'd rather get an SBR Thomson than a UMP. Only an HK collector could really consider the UMP viable.
Oh, don't misunderstand me, I am not a fan of the UMP/USC. I was just trying to illustrate how asinine the price is to make one of those things run. Honestly, they're garbage, especially at the price HK sells them for. Not a big fan of HK either. Literally almost any other pistol-caliber carbine on the market is a better option than USC's. CZ Scorpions, Beretta Storms, AO Thompson, KRISS Vector, CMMG Guard .45, you name it.
expensive, yes. but why do you say they are garbage?
That’s beyond depressing for the price , 2 bad magazines and a busted front sight , you are correct about the lack of quality control
Hey, at least you have one hell of a nice range! Thanks for the great video! If I get a PCC, I’d get the Hi-Point!
The Hi-Point will likely work I've come to believe.
Looks like your converted one is the same one as the Sicario 2 poster. Pretty freaking awesome.
PTR should make their own semi-auto version of the UMP .45.
I'm new to guns. Aren't problems like this covered under warranty? If that gun was a car it would be. Can't you return the gun back where you bought it and demand a refund?
Overonator usually if a gun store gives you a broken gun they need to either fix it or give you a replacement.
Wedritrem From what I have read it seems that guns are treated differently when it comes to warranty and returns than other products. Am I wrong?
Overonator
No, you're not wrong. Returning a gun, and returning a car are VERY different things. Depending on where you buy it, a gun purchase is usually permanent. I'd imagine it's a liability issue, and a transfer issue.
You can send them back to the factory depending on the factory warranty, but dealers won't usually replace them, especially if it's bought from a large corporation. Smaller gun stores may differ in their policy, but it's something to inquire about first. The lesson, look a gun over very well before you buy it, and if there's anything you don't like about it, or concerns you, request a different gun if they have one.
UMP45 is one of my favorites guns of all time, I've seen some of these modified to look pretty close to the real thing.
I've also read alot of mixed reviews on it so that has me on the fence.
The old USC that I converted to a UMP is way better than what you displayed. I was going to pick up another one but I'm going to hold off for a bit. If you ever get the gun up and running, an SBR version with a suppressor is super fun.
I’ve never like H&K pistols or rifles, (except the MP5) mainly because they’re expensive and I’m left handed. This USC video has kind of reaffirmed my dislike for them. It just doesn’t look like it’s worth $1400, it looks like a toy. That combined with H&K’s seeming dislike of the civilian market and I will take a hard pass.
Why would you pay for a replacement part instead of contacting H&K? If you don't like seeing companies make mistakes don't let them go unnoticed or you're asking them to make worse mistakes later :X
XFourty7 H&K would make a killing if they just built civilian G36 here in the states
Vonhere Broadsword can't German invention laws prohibit it from being made here.
He didn't want to wait months for them to finally send the part.
Military Arms going to look over the rifle I just purchased now. Got 15 mags from Lipseys no issues to report
I absolutely adore and agree with that T-Shirt.
Yaaa!! Yet another quality product from another "quality" company Heckler and Crotch.. Following in Sig's footsteps I see..
Uuuh.. Ok, no threaded barrel, stupid butthole stock, and only 10 round magazines.. Hell, for $1400 I can build two really nice SBR's one in 223/556 and the other in 300 Blackout plus pay the $200 per form one. Both with Magpul furniture and BUIS and one with an optic..
You can blame the German government for that.
No, HK could just have sent it to the US in a pistol configuration.
1968CudaGuy HK oddly enough needs to take a bit of advice from Century. Bring in "weapons", make 922r compliant, sell "assault weapons". It can be done, HK just needs to do it.
Unfortunately for HK, the follow the strict exporting laws of the German Government. What HK could do is manufacture parts in Germany and then send the parts to their American facility to have said firearm assembled in their (HK) USA plant. IWI does it in this manner. Change from these older German companies is exceedingly slow.
they dont even want us to have these guns they would love it if the un small arms treaty would be enforced here they only really care about our law enforcement and millitary contracts the guns civilians get are probably over run parts that they need to get money back from
Between the HK and the USA sourced AUG, I´m not impressed with the quality of production these days from these companies.
I was really disappointed in the US made AUG’s too. My 40th anniversary gun is a major letdown.
Military Arms Channel Sorry to hear that. I'm going to avoid HK and Steyr rifles until they get their act together. As for their pistols, I'm just not sure.
I think the MR556 and MR762 are outstanding rifles. The USC is the only fly in the ointment. I suspect this "limited run" might be the last hoo-rah for the UMP. I haven't met a single PD that really liked them. Everyone still loves the MP5 and rightly so. The UMP was an evolutionary step backward for HK, IMHO.
Military Arms Channel I also hear the UMPs don't feel as smooth as the MP5 when you shoot them, even chambered in 9mm know if that's true? That might have something to do with it. I've always sorta been attracted to the UMP as it's one of those guns that got me into firearms, I sure would like to have one or something similar to it like the B&T APC45.
travisp11 I own a Steyr M9-a1 pistol, only issue with it is the magazine hasn’t dropped free on occasions, from what I can tell their handguns are still good to go
I bought one recently and didn’t have any of these issues, I’m quite happy with it
Can you by any chance tell me what your brass looks like after a range session. I reload, and I’m thinking on getting one of these. But I’ve seen AR-45’s chew up the spent casings pretty hard.
damon323 I haven’t came across any issues with it so far and haven’t noticed any issues with it chewing up brass. It’s my least used gun, I have about 1k rounds through it, so I can’t say too much about it. My biggest issue is the recoil when firing quickly, consider the zenith mp5 clone before committing to the usc. I plan on spending the money to have it converted to a ump.
Erick Escobar Thank you for the info, appreciate the fast reply! Well, I wanted to like this HK, but it has too many boxes it checks as a negative for me. I think I’m gonna go with a CZ Scorpion
great video and info, i like my usc. thanks
The gun cannot be made here because it is a German design. They will not transfer German built designs to HKU. It is against German law.
nice!
Mrgunsngear Channel your reviews are top notch, how do you have time to watch yt vids as well?
My guess would be when he's not making vid's? anyway, yeah nice right? ughh!
D DT sick burn.
I looked into doing a conversion with mine and the conversion kit was about the price of what I paid for a used one about 15 years which was about the same price as this new one today. I ended up trading in and got a good trade-in value on a MPX pistol with brace
Was just looking at one yesterday. Talking about cutting barrel off. Maybe see if it’s got a collapsible stock , brace. Definitely a sbr right now.
I might be the only person that really don't like H&K, even the VP9. It just doesn't feel comfortable to me. Sorry your father's day present didn't work out though. I've always heard H&K had stellar reliability. Hopefully they will at least send you some free magazines. You deserve that for your money.
Jerrid Gossett I generally think H&K is overated and their fanboys are annoying as hell. I do however like MP5s, always have. I'm currently toying with doing an MP5 build kit. The $1500-$1800 is a bit if a deterent however.
wow, that is bad...
Tim: "What a spectacular malfunction!" I agree sir.
I had an opportunity to shoot a friend’s USC about 10 years ago. My friend had just purchased the USC new. On my third squeeze of the plastic trigger, an internal plastic part snapped, resulting in a dead trigger. The weapon went back to HK for repair. He was eventually able to obtain a metal trigger.
Two words" Kriss Vector"
Michael Thompson
Other words: CMMG 45 PCC!
Zed Hiro anything but that crap! Haha
agreed. Just bought the new production version and no hicups even with different mags
I was going to get one until I found out they don't care for lefty shooters.
CZ Scorpion works better
Some Parts are Wear and Replace
I went to the HK Website because of this video and discovered that there are several parts that are expected to get broken or wear out under normal use. The Front Sight is one of those and replacement segments are available for 11-14 bucks. Another part is a rubber recoil buffer bumper, rear sights, front sight roll pin and buttstock screws. I ordered several of these items to just have in my HK range bag as they are all fairly cheap and nice to have.
The 15 round promags work great in my experience, and I’ve also never had a problem with my oem usc mags either though