M3 Grease Gun and HK UMP
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From Season 1 of TAC-TV, Ken Hackathorn and I compare the M3 Grease Gun with its modern day counterpart the HK UMP. - บันเทิง
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Back in the 70's a guy I knew negligently ran over his grease gun. The army made him pay approx 17 bucks replacement cost. No joke.
17 dollars back then used to be like 200 dollars now
Dang!!!! $17?! WFT!!
Burt Hulbert No fucking way! You’re off your rocker old timer!
@@CalvinL.Stevens $17 in 1975 would be equal to $81.07 in 2019 adjusted for inflation.
www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1975?amount=17
Chris Ruiz makes sense
I was issued a grease gun in1997 over in korea, then that same year we recieved our m4's. I couldve been one of the last U.S. soldiers issued a grease gun.
Issue was 1996 not 1997 and I never Q'd with it. I dont think we had the ammo for it?
12 B, I was at Camp Howze. 44th Eng. Battalion.
Aaron Jones that is awkward , ww2 guns are usually used by civilians today .
Aaron Jones That's crazy! I had no idea the M3 was issued that late.
Roy Rodriguez well that is because M3 Grease gun was made because it was cheap to produce . Thompson was high-quality and never jammed or malfunctioned because it used fine materials and was expensive and took very long to produce so they found out that they have to make a cheaper firearm to replace it .
When I got to Germany in 1984, the armored crews were still carrying the M3.
+Chuck Bryant They still use the Colt 1911 105 years after its invention and the M2 Browning has barely changed since 1933.
Same when I got to 29 Palms is 86.
Same in 1985
pretty good I'd imagine, back then things were built to last and weapons were no exception.
Because the design has been manufactured since then. The most popular rifle designs to this day and adopted by modern military are the AK-47 / AK-74 and AR-15. Designs that are 70 years old. Firearms have peaked,
as an 80s Army tanker I was issued a M-3 grease gun. it is my favorite firearm of all the stuff I have fired. wish I had one now.
All you need to know about the M3:
*open cover*
Now you killin
*closed cover*
Now you ain't
Ah, I see you watched Fury as well.
Inexpensive in HK terminology means you're buying a Porsche instead of a Ferrari. Enjoy the savings.
Porsche is better than Ferrari :P
+David hEIDSEMAN no
+Davito2000 i would take a porsche 918 spyder
+nate freese It is. It's not debatable.
+Davito2000 Many of Porsche's models have been better than the equivalent ferrari model. Just saying.
I own a m3 grease gun and it’s a blast to shoot very controllable and accurate for what it is. They are also very rare and highly valuable. Just a cool piece of history that’s a great investment you can have fun with.
Has no company produced a mass production m3? Surely would be worth looking into.
@@vasheldiablo507you mean a semi version ?
I was a tanker and we all loved our grease guns they packed a punch and would bring the pain. 19echo M60A3 tanker
I carried the m3a1 and a 1911. great combo
Bogus Cornett wish I was able to experience ww2
In wat game was that?
Hey makoto u ok bro?i dont say anything haha..read first.
@@Legitpenguins99 I wanna see the after math of all the cheering and stuff
Although I have fire the M3, as an officer I was issued the UMP for about 5 years. An absolutely amazing weapon. No feed issues whatsoever.
Philippine marines Mechanized division brought back the M3 but added a suppressor and red dot sights
fuck why? it sucks
F. Garay
There's nothing wrong with the grease gun. It's short, reliable, easy to learn, easy to maintain and it can kill. That's all you need in an SMG
+F. Garay Better than MP40
F. Garay cost, way cheaper than outfitting a unit with m4's
LEGONNE 3-5 what drugs are you on?
The M3 was designed to replace the H&K UMP.
Nice work dude.
lmao nigga
Random Guy lol
Wait, time out...
Random Guy lmfao and the Colt 1911 was made to replace the Colt Dragoon
Should have compared the Sten, the Grease Gun, & the MP40.
And the Owen SMG
+DemocracyOfHypocrisy It's got to have been done somewhere.
And the mab 38. Polish blyskawica
Ppsh pps43 mas38 and reising m55
MP40 hands down would have won, the Sten coming in second maybe or vise versa with the M3
No, that depends on your requirements. The MP40 is modern and in 9mm and perhaps it has already its semi/ double and burst fire mode selector. the M3 is pure full auto firing. Quick triggering is what makes it fire in burst. It fires the .45 ACP round.
The sound of the M3 Grease gun is just as satisfying as the Gau 8 (A10 Warthog).
I saw one slung over a soldier's shoulder at the Camp Doha, Kuwait px in 2004. I couldn't believe it. I wish I would have asked what unit he was in.
Thanks for bringing us this awesome videos with great quality.Plus i find them very informative(i really like the brief history of the older guns).
There's a mustache you can set your watch to.
That's actually right. I was in around that time, in the late 80's, attached to the HHC of a mechanized infantry brigade, so we had a couple of armor battalions. Our mechanics were issued those things, I think the armor guys had them, too. We had a few of those in our arms room. I was there when the first M1 tanks were issued, as well as the first HUMVee's. I didn't like it, we LOVED our old Ford M151, and didn't want to retire it. Boy, does that make me feel old.....
Here in italy Police officers often carry the M3 especially when on guard duty, I always wanted to know more about it, it looked so different from what usually comes as standard issue. Nice Vid!
Sir, this is a fascinating channel, keep up the good work
Love how these two guys just chat about guns with such fascination!
Carried an M-3A1 for a time in the Army. Easy to control and fabulous knockdown power. Easy to clean and would burn your finger when you cocked it after two or three magazines.
1991 Desert Storm I carried an m3 A1 grease gun in my M60 tank. I hated carrying it because it was cumbersome and heavy but my M1911 sidearm was my baby. I loved her, she gave me peace when slept with her. I miss her.....sigh.
This dude's videos are great. Pure American. And you've got to love that Jeep.
These videos feel like teasers...I enjoy them but they're way too short
Amazing information and guns!
Buddy I went to high school with and a life long friend was a tanker ( tank commander) in 1990 he had several M3 " Grease guns " on his tank.
Having been an Armored Crewman on the M60A1/A3 tanks, I got to play with the M3A1 Greasegun a LOT and enjoyed doing so as well.
A decent rate of fire but required effort to keep it on target during a longer string of fire.
Some of the "lighter" troops didn't have enough sand in their pockets to keep from being rattled around from the (to me, anyway) modest recoil impulses. But with a little training and trigger time it became easier to squeeze off one, two, three or more short bursts of ammo.
That was a necessity, too, since that stick mag would run out of Pain Pills PDQ if you held the trigger back.
But it was fun! YEE HAW!
I miss those days, outside of being beat to crap from the hard work associated with being a Tanker.
EVERYONE from the TC (Tank Commander) to the Driver, Loader and Gunner needed to work together to keep our mounts up and running in the field.
There was no such thing as driving until a maintenance facility and asking them to fix whatever was broken. Crewmen did the bulk of the maintenance. From track component replacements to replacing an entire engine/transmission "Pack" in the field.
That took the use of an M88 Recovery vehicle which was another tank minus the turret and main gun, but had a rig to hoist off the back deck and then the engine pack for replacement.
NOT fun at ALL! Oh, and EXTREMELY dirty work. LOL
Good days, Yessiree!
Never had the pleasure of firing an UMP, but definitely one of my favorite video game SMG's. I like the slower rate of fire.
How can you not love Larry Vickers?
All M-48 and M-60 series tanks had M 3A1 msg as part of its TOE. It was a excellent weapon for its purpose.
In the Philippines, the M3 is reinstated as a service weapon. Poor poor Philippines xD.
I'm Filipino too...
Yes i am aware of that, but let's face it, PH must be having financial difficulty if they were to resort in such an old weapon system.
***** Yeah, i agree.
It's so annoying how our tourism ads say "It's more fun in the Philippines", only showing the tourist destination than the bloody residential areas.
I understand that's it's for tourism of those good tourist spots, but it's not like the rest of the country is just as good.
+The6thMessenger well, better than nothing. some country in africa literally goes "pew pew" on excercise
+The6thMessenger The Philippines is fucked up mainly because of the weather conditions.. I think its a fantastic country with amazing people... despite the poverty people seem to enjoy the sun and this is what makes the country amazing
+FighterJet 210 nothing he said was racist, fucking moron.
beautiful gun man I want one.
Nice Jeep you have there. I want one like that for long time
Hackathorn and Vickers, legends
Really like that new style of gun cross talk over the traditional soliloquy.
This is a really high quality youtube channel
The unit I was in while in Germany had just gotten rid of their M3 grease guns when I got there in March, 1994.
My dawg Larry has lost so much weight since this. Good for you Larry.
Right, after seeing more recent videos was like where the hell is Larry I hear his voice lol. Good job on him. Inspires me to up my game.
What's that soundtrack in the background when you took the UMP out of the case?
I like the UMP but for some reasons, it won't replace the MP5. It came in the wrong age with the calibers we do have now and has lot of kick.
What I love in this channel is that I get more knowledge than the demo ranch videos. But still, I love demo ranch. Haha Lol
I think the M3 is of coolest out. A couple of upgrades and it would be even better. Of course I have a fondness for the gun.
Great vids. You guys know how to have fun in the USA. 👍
is it possible to make a modernized version m3
C btry 1/51 ada Ft.Ord. The M3A1 was my issued weapon in 1982. I loved that little beasty,always worked,very controllable,same ammo as my side arm(1911A1)."Fun Times" ;)
would love it if you could get ur hands on and film a Swedish K (Carl Gustav m/45)
just for curiosity, how it is considered 45 more efficient than 9mm considering that kinetic energy is actually almost equal if not superior for 9mm?
Just because permanent tunnel wound?
Was this a late model M3?
It looks like it has the M3A1 rear sight.
(In the beginning he says UMP when he really means M3).
Why did they make the M3 mag single-feed, really?
How reliable was the Tommy gun's double-feel really?
Did they have to give that bullet more of a (parabolic/pointy) nose?
short and punchy, i like it. to the point
I love the M-3 and M-3 A-1. The UMP looks great also. The M-3/M-3 A-1 is very reliable. Also with an old M-16A1 bipod, I could hit targets out to 200 Meters, if I aimed at the top of the target. Highly underrated, unfortunately by untrained personnel!💕💕💕🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
What glasses do they wear in this video thanks
Are these guns made for indoor fighting?
Interesting that the Americans basically built their version of the humble Sten to replace the more fancy Tommy gun
+liar liarliar The Thompson was to damned expensive and complicated. Great gun, but with an army three million strong you need something easy to manufacture for the regular infantry. Special troops, American and British, still used Thompsons up until Korea and I think that quite a few Americans traded or stole Thompsons from ARVN in Vietnam.
Microzombie I think comparing a Thompson to an M3 or a Sten, is rather like comparing a Cadillac to a Model T Ford. You'd rather have the Cadillac, but far more people were able to drive the Model T because it was far less expensive. When you're in a war of survival (as opposed to a limited war for imperial dominance) it is imperative to mobilise your resources more effectively than your enemy. This means your equipment has to do the job for the least resources, and this is why the Sten/M3 is a better military design than the Thompson. It's also the reason why the Sten in particular, was copied by everyone, including the Germans (who were no slouches at designing fancy machine guns!).
+liar liarliar We can agree that the Thompson is a hell of a lot more sexy than the other SMGs of World War II right?
Microzombie I think the Tommy gun is something of an oddity in that it is it built like a finely wrought sporting gun, yet it is a machine gun and thus, by it's very nature can be counted among the most brutal killing machines ever devised. Perhaps machine guns should look brutal and functional, so we don't forget what they are for.
+liar liarliar Well...the Thompson is surely outdone by most weapons of the modern day. And most weapons nowadays do look pretty intimidating.
Which one comes first the m3 or the m3a1?
Wasn't there a second version of the Grease Gun?
Does anyone know if there is a converted HK UMP or a similar smg converted to 10mm? I think it would make for a fairly nasty piece of hardware, thanks for any assistance
The UMP is a very fine gun and one of my favorites. One thing to touch on though is that the cost to acquire a UMP is in the $10-20,000 range, where as a new M3 grease gun cost $15 to produce in '43 which is $206 today. This means that for the cost of one UMP at $10,000 (cheap) you could arm 50 or so soldiers with grease guns. Assuming training and experiance are equal, the advantages that the UMP offers it doesn't make a 1v50 scenario close to possible. Even a 1v2 scenario would be based on luck. If H&K were to make an affordable UMP they would essentially end up with an M3. This is why they are bought in small numbers by special forces and police units, and not armies. Just food for thought, sorry for the rant, safe shooting everyone.
10-20k for a submachine gun? Christ, I bought a pickup truck for less than that!
These guys are so American. "I want power and respect, but the easy type... no exercise... I'll just own guns."
But damn, I really enjoy these videos and this guy is a font of knowledge.
@@bouncinbetty2032 96% white, would be better if you used native but let's not get all SJW on you :D. I don't mean to be rude, but how rich / prosperous is your country? In the most rich european countries it's a problem because of the EU open border treaties and humanitarian laws, mass immigration that is, not muslim invaders, although a lot of these chaps are muslim. But them beeing muslim is not the biggest problem, it's other stuff, although some muslims still think we live in the middle ages when it comes to certain values. It's about culture as well, in the two biggest towns of my country (netherlands), the natives are a minority or just barely in the majority. In the capital it's mostly tourists as well, not only from 2nd or 3rd world countries. But in the 2nd biggest town there are a lot of people from muslim countries from north africa and middle east, also recently african countries like Somalia, Eritrea. Also most of these immigrants are male, that's a fact as well. If the majority of them would be women, well, that wouldn't be so bad :D. But yeah each european country is different.
I understand the problems with the M3, but I don't understand how the M3A1 would be an improvement. Wouldn't reaching *into* the bolt just be a good way to cook your fingers?
Lets play a little game: take a shot every time they say "grease gun" in this video. :)
I'd rather not die of alcohol poisoning
Enjoyable load of information. The grease gun is a delight to see and hear, thanks to a childhood filled with goofy WW2 movies.
How would the M3A1 fare?
@0:16
Thanks for the rundown, Tony Stark
Love the slow rate of fire on the m3.
I was racking my brain trying to figure out what an "AD" was lol then it finally hit me with 4sec left in the video "Accidental Discharge" it's now referred to as a "ND- Negligent Discharge"
Why you not make a video where the Grase Gun vs the Mp40 ?
Lower than normal comp? Sooo u can conserve more ammo compared to learning how to be a surgeon?
I remember fixing those in Germany in 1976 - 1981.
What happens when u run really hot 45 ammo out of that ump?
I would love to shoot with you sometime Larry, do you ever come to Minnesota?
Yes - I occasionally do classes there. Check my website on the training page
Excellent! Thank you for taking the time to respond. I'll be seeing you soon!
As a turret mechanic in the 5th Infantry Div, 1/40, 1/70 Armor, I carried the M3.
Much easier than the cumbersome and crappy M16.
The ump is so sexy like the mp5, the 2 icons
full auto ump is sooo much fun to shoot, and even when its filthy it runs well.
that glorious mustache
wow,,, did he just say the Abrams as in M1A1 tanks had grease guns at the start of the first gulf war
Yeah they did, I think they replaced it with the Colt commando now(M4A1 with a 11.5 inch barrel).
Mag adapted from a Sten magazine.....I think we’ve found the problem. Didn’t the M3 mags have a plastic cover to stop dirt getting in?
Dude I fucking love ur Chanel
The grease gun cost 1/6 what the umo costs to manufacture
The M3 was not used in Desert Storm by M1A1 armor crews. I'm not sure where he gets his information. We utilized the M16 A2.
Just FYI they were in tanks till 1997.
The grease gun is beautiful... I think the extra weight would be perfect unloading auto rounds.. perfect weight vs recoil... I shot an old man's sks one time and then old wood and metal yes was heavier but it handles the recoil like nothing
wish they made the ump in 10mm
they make one in 9
They have .40 S&W
Raihan Purboyo *more rare
It's possible. You just need a different barrel aswell as maybe change the rollers.
10mm > .40 Short & weak.
10mm > lol it's ok only 9mm.
The grease gun has to be one of the most bass ass looking guns ever 🇺🇸
Hahaha 😂
Look at the Sturmgewehr 44 or MP28
We still had grease guns (army) when I was in Korea in 96-97
I understand that the Grease Gun was used a lot by Delta in the early years. I would love for you to expound on that a little!
Same here. I was wondering if he was going to mention it.
I had a grease gun when i was in the marines. 1341 heavy equipment mechanic
Those beer bellies though...
Philippine Marines still use M3 Grease Gun in boarding, with a suppressor and red dot
Kens mustache is cool
Yeah i like this one
I want a class three so I can get a MP5a4. Got to shoot one, felt awesome. UMP is still cool though.
I want to live in America. ...couple more years after I sell my stupid expensive canadian properties.
We would love to have you
walperstyle Is it true that you can buy a suppressor or an SBR with little to no problems? It's a long wait and a lot of paperwork here.
Bullwinkle Moose In Canada? Suppressors are a no-go, 100% prohibited for civilians, only available to LE and Mil. SBRs on the other hand are a bit easier to come by, the barrel length restrictions for longarms only apply to centrefire semi-automatics, and they change the gun from being non-restricted (only requires a basic licence, no registration) to being restricted (requires an extra endorsement on your licence and registration, can only be used on approved ranges). Transfers for restricted firearms are generally quite quick, and there are no transfer fees.
Since the barrel length restrictions only apply to centrefire semi-automatics it's actually quite easy to get manual action firearms that would be SBRs or SBSs in the US. For example, 12" barreled pump action shotguns are quite popular for wilderness defense.
Thanks. I was curious, guess I was told wrong.
I own a Tavor in Canada. Its non restricted, yet ar 15's can only be used at ranges, and must be locked during transport with ammo separate, as well as need a special license. Figure that out.
I remember in Iraq in 2005 I saw 3 SF guys where carrying grease guns totally blew my mind they said they are great for clearing never had any issues with them what so ever
These days "M3" refers to an 84mm recoilless gun.
Any reason behind the reassignment of these M numbers?
Ipad 1?
Best two smg's iwi uzi pro and sig mpx
rather have the M-3
Care to elaborate?
mcontrolable rate of fire, more compact and battle proven use thompson 20 and 30 round mags plus there is a 9MM barrel conversion available.
Greaser does not use Thompson mags. Dedicated M3 mags, closer to Sten mags.
What’s funny is you can own a transferable M3 but you can only own the HK if your a class three dealer.
@@craigthescott5074 I forget the statute, But it says NO "NEW" machine guns / select fire. Yet if you own a PMC business you can BUY " NEW" machine guns / select fire weapons.
I love UMP design
People forget that this was designed to be a cheap mass produced weapon by an automobile company, General Motors lamp division. It was made of stamped parts and thought of as disposable so initially they didn't even make repair parts for it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun
HK please make a civilian version of this!!!!
With auto conversion
usc is thr civilian ump45